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Speaker 1: Bachelor Show because they've had enough scandal. Okay, they've had

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Speaker 1: dumped off like a freaking carcass on the side of

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Speaker 1: the road after you've just done work for Bravo.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, they're not going.

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Speaker 1: To lose a whole season unless the shit went sideways

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Speaker 1: between Brandy and Caroline Manzo. So I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you don't like your candy taken away. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to take your candy away. I'm just trying to say

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Speaker 1: that these are workplaces and they have been manipulatively, if

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Speaker 1: that's even a word, which is not, they have been

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Speaker 1: manipulatively turned into non workplaces to cover the asses of

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Speaker 1: the people employing them, to say, yes, abuses there, yes,

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Speaker 1: alcohol abuses there, Yes, physical abuses there, yes, uh incarceration

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Speaker 1: and do UIs. But we are not the employers because

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Speaker 1: they are not employees, because they are independent contractors, though

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Speaker 1: we are paying them, requiring they be somewhere, requiring they

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Speaker 1: go on trips, requiring they do what we tell them,

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Speaker 1: and in any other sense of the world, they're employees.

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Speaker 1: That was the big issue that we didn't that wasn't

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Speaker 1: in my post because it wasn't directly about the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome