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Speaker 4: have blue bags, Blue Magic.
Speaker 5: Barry Church from a Cowboys station on Blue Magic.
Speaker 4: Texas A and M graduate Agricultural leadership degree. He his
Speaker 4: find new Pace communication see my man North Texas, Me
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Speaker 5: He is the nephew of the.
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Speaker 4: He's Hackma Harrison soon to be. It's going to be
Speaker 4: an Emmy winner.
Speaker 1: Let's go big.
Speaker 6: Also, father, let's get into one of the best wide
Speaker 6: receivers in Texas.
Speaker 4: Let you know, right now, right now, let him get
Speaker 4: one of the bags they handed out of Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: By that softball girl a million dollars, the lead million dollars,
Speaker 4: a million dollars in the National championship, ran right now,
Speaker 4: a million dollars. She left Stanford real fast.
Speaker 1: That's not a bag, you know what.
Speaker 7: When and then when the bag pays off, when it
Speaker 7: pays off, it's one thing to give the bag and
Speaker 7: the bag not pay off. But this is one of
Speaker 7: those situations where they targeted someone that absolutely came in
Speaker 7: and changed the whole dynamic of their program.
Speaker 5: And you know, every softball coach American's room to get
Speaker 5: text tech.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, yes, like hook them.
Speaker 5: Texas to win in the worst way.
Speaker 4: Texas won Game one by the way, two to one,
Speaker 4: and in a good, good game for there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, they gave her.
Speaker 1: Techrought.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of It's a lot of dads just
Speaker 7: went to their daughter's room and say, come on now,
Speaker 7: get up right now, get up right.
Speaker 1: Right now, brother, with stuff. I keep that going.
Speaker 4: The other coaches are like, I should have break then
Speaker 4: went on.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 8: It hurt me to say, you might want to watch
Speaker 8: out for tech because the guy that took over like
Speaker 8: that whole investment group to pay that girl of a
Speaker 8: million dollars, you think they're about to do in them.
Speaker 1: Other sports, the football team.
Speaker 5: They invest in the football team. So this is players
Speaker 5: stress a.
Speaker 4: Whole lot to get to the Dallas Cowboys here, all right.
Speaker 4: So I want to throw something. I want to throw
Speaker 4: something over NBC. So you know, yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: well no it's it's it's Pro Football.
Speaker 7: Talks favorite no ps.
Speaker 1: NBC. Lo.
Speaker 5: So Chris Sims comes out with his quarterback rank.
Speaker 6: Wow, Chris Sim's forming trip lately, even trip lately, even
Speaker 6: tripping lately lately.
Speaker 7: By lately he tripped all the time. He tripped all
Speaker 7: the time. He got a little bit of tripp trip out.
Speaker 4: So he's talking about he's got his rankings out there.
Speaker 4: You know, he got his rankings, his quarterback rankings, and
Speaker 4: we got him down in tears and breakdowns ahead of
Speaker 4: the season. And so I wanted to see where Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott was, you know, where do you have him?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 5: What's he thinking?
Speaker 4: And so when it comes to Dak, he's got he's
Speaker 4: got is after the needs more info. He wouldn't need
Speaker 4: more info, guys, which you said was Michael Pennix and
Speaker 4: Drake May.
Speaker 5: Then he gets to is this it question mark number one?
Speaker 5: On the is this it?
Speaker 4: And he says a tier of He says, a tier
Speaker 4: of trio of quarterbacks who are once considered rising stars.
Speaker 5: Now they are fighting for their NFL futures. And he
Speaker 5: has Dak no.
Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, away
Speaker 7: right now, it'll finish. Come on, yeah, say Worth, pff bag.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be that extreme.
Speaker 4: So let me read the three guys and what he
Speaker 4: has to say. The first is Dak Prescott. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 4: there are a few quarterbacks more divisive than Prescott. Sims
Speaker 4: is underwhelmed about the thirty one year old, declaring that
Speaker 4: his release is slow and his anticipation is not great.
Speaker 4: Then he goes into Tua Tugue of Ilo of Miami
Speaker 4: and he says Tua has played in just one postseason
Speaker 4: game in his career, a twenty six to seven loss
Speaker 4: to the Chiefs in twenty twenty four. Simms likes a
Speaker 4: lot about to his game, but he's very concerned about
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks ability to play big game football. And then
Speaker 4: the final one in his tier is Trevor Lawrence the
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars. Says Lawrence is one of the most difficult
Speaker 4: players to rank because there's an unbelievable talent in him,
Speaker 4: but there's way too many misthrows. New head coach Liam
Speaker 4: Cohen has a ridd in Jacksonville, will attempt to fix
Speaker 4: his franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5: However, at the end of the.
Speaker 4: Day, it's going to be on Lawrence And so that's
Speaker 4: the tier he put him in.
Speaker 8: What are the other tiers? And who else is on
Speaker 8: this list before before I.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot like he's got ready to launch,
Speaker 4: Like he's got a whole thing like ready to launch.
Speaker 4: He's got like bo Nix and Caleb Williams right there.
Speaker 5: Then he's got the.
Speaker 4: More info guys, and he's got the don't forget about me,
Speaker 4: that's Kirk Cousins. He's in category and he's got a
Speaker 4: category call Escape from New York.
Speaker 1: Which I'm done enough with the clickbait, enough with the clickbase.
Speaker 4: But just back to Dak, you know, he back to
Speaker 4: he He says he's fighting for his NFL future and
Speaker 4: that he's underwhelmed by Die and then he says Dax
Speaker 4: releases slow and his anticipation, you want me to.
Speaker 1: Look at me in this camera.
Speaker 8: I hate I hate when people say stuff like this
Speaker 8: just to do clickbait, to sit here and say, this
Speaker 8: man is fighting for his NFL future.
Speaker 1: Do you know what type of contract he has?
Speaker 8: Do you know what type of teams will pay for
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott right now? That one of those teams being Miami,
Speaker 8: the guy that you mentioned on there too. So for
Speaker 8: you to sit here and say that, oh, he's fighting
Speaker 8: for his NFL future like that is absurd, Like just
Speaker 8: because you're tired or you're getting used to seeing something
Speaker 8: like that, you don't let talent like that go that
Speaker 8: is generational, Like he's not I'm sorry, I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: say he's not generational talent, but he is a proven
Speaker 8: starter in this league. You don't just give that up
Speaker 8: for tools and fuels and sit here and say that, oh,
Speaker 8: because he's thirty one, Oh his time releases and is
Speaker 8: slow and stuff like that, like stop it, bruh, Like, yes,
Speaker 8: he hasn't formed up to the ceiling that people are
Speaker 8: saying going to the super Bowl and this and that,
Speaker 8: but he's been he's tooking his team to the playoffs,
Speaker 8: he's showing that he's had the number one offense multiple
Speaker 8: times throughout his career and then you're gonna sit here
Speaker 8: and say that a healthy death Dak Prescott. I'm sorry
Speaker 8: that to say his career is over. I hate when
Speaker 8: you put that narrative on people because then once that
Speaker 8: narrative gets there, it starts a snowball.
Speaker 1: Like, don't do that talk the facts, don't just do clickbait.
Speaker 1: N I'm with you on this.
Speaker 6: And you know, like I said before, you sims be
Speaker 6: tripping sometimes, and he was tripping on this one.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You know, I get on.
Speaker 6: Dak a lot when you talk about playoffs and all
Speaker 6: that stuff.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but you got to be able to
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6: And with Dak Prescott, we're just what a year or
Speaker 6: two remove for him being second in the MVP voting.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like, what are we saying here? This
Speaker 6: is also a man that rattled off with a three
Speaker 6: straight twelve and twelve win seasons. I mean, this is
Speaker 6: a guy that you know, his playoffs, he has the
Speaker 6: same amount of wins as maybe what Lamar Jackson to
Speaker 6: the playoffs, maybe one win behind him. And we're talking
Speaker 6: about this man being you know, his NFL future being
Speaker 6: at stake. I don't agree with that at all, does
Speaker 6: he need to you know, be more healthy and win
Speaker 6: more in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Of course he does.
Speaker 6: But there's a lot of quarterbacks out there that wish
Speaker 6: they had the same resume as a Dak Prescott. So
Speaker 6: to me, this is you know, Sims tripping once again.
Speaker 6: When you put that Cowboys name up there, people are
Speaker 6: going to click in and want to look at it.
Speaker 6: But overall, you know, Dak is far from being done
Speaker 6: in this league. And to me, you know, a lot
Speaker 6: of NFL franchises will want to have four as their
Speaker 6: signal caller back there.
Speaker 8: Ye.
Speaker 7: Well, Chris Sims, son of Super Bowl champion Phil Sims,
Speaker 7: you know he probably has. He has made statements throughout
Speaker 7: his career as an analyst that I have not agreed with.
Speaker 7: I mean when I say, when I think of ass
Speaker 7: hat he's in a conversation, some of the things that
Speaker 7: he says, and it's like, you know, I think, and
Speaker 7: I'm not even playing Devil's advocate here, because you know
Speaker 7: that I have officially defended Dak for years and years
Speaker 7: and years, and I think when it what people are
Speaker 7: starting to put together is the culmination of his work
Speaker 7: and what he's done.
Speaker 1: They're saying all right, ten years in this thing.
Speaker 7: This is as far as you've gone have is this
Speaker 7: It is this your ceiling. And we've always talked about
Speaker 7: force multipliers, guys to come in and make other people better.
Speaker 7: I don't think that, no, they've ever looked at Dak
Speaker 7: in that in that realm to say, Okay, he is
Speaker 7: a quarterback like Jalen Hurt, like like Hurts, that needs
Speaker 7: to have those pieces around him.
Speaker 1: But when you think about the jump that.
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts has made, it has been because he has
Speaker 7: had the talent around him him to propel him to
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl m v P Saquon Barkley in other
Speaker 7: in other words, yeahj aj Brown. But what I'm saying
Speaker 7: is you start to see when an organization gives a
Speaker 7: player that has those limited tools. As far as nobody's
Speaker 7: ever said, oh my god, DA's you've never come away
Speaker 7: from a game saying, O, man, great crows, great moments,
Speaker 7: but the game where you like it is all on display.
Speaker 7: I think Dak is what he is, and I think
Speaker 7: as an organization you have to understand even with the
Speaker 7: injuries that he suffered, mechanics and all that that Chris
Speaker 7: Sims was talking about if you saw twenty five minutes,
Speaker 7: pretty good man. He talks about his mechanics and all
Speaker 7: of that. I think right now this this front office
Speaker 7: needs to put the pieces. George Pickens is in. They
Speaker 7: re signed ceedee lamb. You have your your tight end
Speaker 7: and mcferg maybe you bring in, you bring in a
Speaker 7: offensive line. Your offensive line is is much better. I
Speaker 7: think your running back group is going to be much
Speaker 7: better than it was last year. So therefore, I think
Speaker 7: you're gonna see the better version of Dak Prescott because
Speaker 7: now you're giving him the weapons to work with.
Speaker 1: And he's a better QB than Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5: Just so let's go off the top peer QB.
Speaker 7: But he is a better peer QB and throw it up.
Speaker 4: You know Bill Parcells want said for the rest of
Speaker 4: your life, they can never say.
Speaker 5: You couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1: He got it done.
Speaker 5: I got a Super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1: It's on no.
Speaker 7: Matter what, take that and I cannot take that from.
Speaker 1: I can't be mad at that. But you are a
Speaker 1: fat guy, are you not?
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, Rick Flair said, you
Speaker 4: want to be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Speaker 1: He is the man. But if you had if you
Speaker 1: had a choice of starting your organization about starting.
Speaker 4: Walk in the building with a ring, and certainly I
Speaker 4: respect them, so he considered it. He and Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: can sit up in the same club drinking that champagne.
Speaker 1: No, no, Patrick, in a different club. It's the same
Speaker 1: super Bowl club.
Speaker 4: The super Bowl Club with the ring ringing the Champions
Speaker 4: Club in the Champions Club.
Speaker 5: So thank you, thank.
Speaker 8: You, But pat, Patty, and that he up there you
Speaker 8: knocking on Tom doing saying.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know he can go to the VP of
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame club, but the Champions Club, Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurst is in there.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, That's what happened. When you talk about
Speaker 1: your little doggy.
Speaker 5: Friends, we won't talk about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Fighting. He fighting thetal the rebuttal to that is.
Speaker 4: So I go back to this point about what mister
Speaker 4: sim said, slow release.
Speaker 5: Yep, how do we feel about that?
Speaker 7: You know what I think after the injury, that is
Speaker 7: something that I worry about because obviously, with age you
Speaker 7: got to slow down, right and I think with an
Speaker 7: hamstring injury on a quarterback that was already dealing with
Speaker 7: an ankle issue, he's gonna move slower. But even in
Speaker 7: that when he said about his slow release and criticizing
Speaker 7: him about that, he also praised Dak.
Speaker 1: For his patients. So you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 7: You can say, hey, I love it, I love his
Speaker 7: patience and his ability to read release, but he has
Speaker 7: those low release.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love his patients.
Speaker 7: But he also got on Dak about choosing like if
Speaker 7: he has a Humbo route, choosing the underneath routes the
Speaker 7: short stuff and not allowing the other stuff to come open, right,
Speaker 7: And so it's a it's a big contradiction in what
Speaker 7: he's making of it. But I think as when I
Speaker 7: look at Dak over when I look forward to seeing
Speaker 7: Dak this season, I want to see how he moves
Speaker 7: because man, after having surgery on your hamstring, you know
Speaker 7: that is that's going to be a big deal for him,
Speaker 7: especially his mechanics and his release.
Speaker 6: Also, what a healthy old line like what we see
Speaker 6: what Dak has guys in front of him, MAC can
Speaker 6: protect him.
Speaker 1: He can put up great numbers.
Speaker 6: I mean we've seen it, like was it two years
Speaker 6: before when he was second MVP the Matthew thirty seven
Speaker 6: touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: All right, limited interceptions.
Speaker 6: He went from fifteen interceptions the year before to you know,
Speaker 6: I was killing him, brought him way back. And in
Speaker 6: this past year, how many times did we see lookout blocks?
Speaker 6: Hey man, look out, he's about to get you, Like
Speaker 6: you know, he can't sit there and let the routes
Speaker 6: develop and it being able to hit those deep shots.
Speaker 1: But he got guys breathing on his neck.
Speaker 6: I think he'll have a better offensive line to protect
Speaker 6: them a little bit more and you'll be able to
Speaker 6: see that Dak Prescott that we've seen from years.
Speaker 5: Two rookies on the offensive line.
Speaker 4: Last year with one rookie basically failing the test to
Speaker 4: tackle and Tyler Guyton came out and owned it. He
Speaker 4: owned it last week and said, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 4: wasn't where I needed to be so so so yes,
Speaker 4: you're bringing up a valid fair point to say, hey,
Speaker 4: look what could he do if given the weapons and protection.
Speaker 4: I go back and I look at Jared Goff of Detroit.
Speaker 4: Sean McVay let him go despite him going to a
Speaker 4: super Bowl with and he's like, man, I can't get
Speaker 4: it done with this guy. So he goes to Detroit
Speaker 4: and a lot of people are like, hell, you know, okay,
Speaker 4: he's here, but Brad Holmes, the GM's on excellent.
Speaker 5: Joh They have a very good offensive line.
Speaker 4: The big thing was like, hey, if you want to
Speaker 4: get to golf, go at the middle on him. They've
Speaker 4: protected him there. They've done a very good job the
Speaker 4: weapons that he has from an offensive standpoint, the wide receiver,
Speaker 4: the tight end. Use a first round pick to upgrade
Speaker 4: the tight end. You got first round picks running back.
Speaker 4: They've done what they did for Peyton Manning in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, look at.
Speaker 4: How many first round picks Bill Pollian put around Peyton.
Speaker 1: Man There was a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: Edgern James Dallas Clark, Anthony Gonzalez, Anthony Wayne Reggie, Wayne Marvin.
Speaker 4: It was just tons and tons. Ken do I mean
Speaker 4: he just kept bringing first round and high draft picks
Speaker 4: to put around Peyton man as they should have. By
Speaker 4: the way, you know, on the offensive line as well.
Speaker 4: How many times are you doing that for Dak Prescott?
Speaker 4: Are you giving Dak Prescott what they did in Detroit
Speaker 4: or even in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: I think if you asked that.
Speaker 4: Question, you could say the cow Boys have not to
Speaker 4: the extreme that we saw in Philly.
Speaker 5: Indy or Detroit for their quarterback.
Speaker 1: No, they they definitely haven't done to that extreme of
Speaker 1: that magnitude. I think that's been the knock on them
Speaker 1: for years.
Speaker 8: Just growing up in Dallas, like you always said, hey,
Speaker 8: can we bring in somebody?
Speaker 1: And then you bring in one guy.
Speaker 8: But this is the first time I was saying this offseason,
Speaker 8: we see them making that attempt to do that. You
Speaker 8: have your first round pick in Ceed Lamb. You have
Speaker 8: a first round pick in George Picking bringing him in there.
Speaker 8: You have another first round pick that you bring in
Speaker 8: with the offensive line.
Speaker 1: You bring in.
Speaker 8: A guy that go his offense is predicated off of
Speaker 8: the run, and then his quarterback has had that success.
Speaker 8: You're starting to see the foundation of them trying to
Speaker 8: build around that and go to his strengths. He's never,
Speaker 8: like you said, he's never been the guy that had
Speaker 8: the big arm and stuff like that. But he's been
Speaker 8: the guy that can have thirty seven touchdowns, that can
Speaker 8: lead have the number one offense in the league with
Speaker 8: less weapons around him. So now that you're starting to
Speaker 8: do that and build that foundation, I say, give them time,
Speaker 8: but I think this is going to be the time.
Speaker 8: So for him to make that getting back to Chris Silm,
Speaker 8: for him to make that comment, it's like, Brah, if anything,
Speaker 8: you should have had him on. This is the make
Speaker 8: or break if that's the case, because now with them
Speaker 8: actually bringing in the weapons and doing all that stuff,
Speaker 8: then you can maybe start trying to put a narrative
Speaker 8: on him. But to say that he's already done that
Speaker 8: was completely far less.
Speaker 1: I said the last yeah, real quick.
Speaker 7: And when you make the reference about golf, and I
Speaker 7: think that's really the department that I want to put
Speaker 7: out the where I want to keep dak. When you
Speaker 7: look at Detroit those years where they were just horrible
Speaker 7: and stacking those first round picks. So it's different, man,
Speaker 7: when you're bringing in a guy that's top five picking
Speaker 7: in the draft versus the guy that you're getting at
Speaker 7: nineteen or twenty as far as the pick you're getting,
Speaker 7: and those twelve and five seasons led way to them
Speaker 7: getting those later round picks in the first round, and
Speaker 7: again it's no excuse. You have to be more strategic
Speaker 7: about the guys that you get. But man, Detroit has
Speaker 7: been able to go out there and get the pick
Speaker 7: of the litter when it comes down to those first
Speaker 7: round picks.
Speaker 4: He Knewson made a living out a twenty picks in
Speaker 4: the twenty somethings for years, and one of them being
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson in the thirties. So Cowboys, having no issue
Speaker 4: from their first round picks have done a very good
Speaker 4: job there. I just go back and look in terms
Speaker 4: of how intentional have you been about it with Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott versus the other clubs who have all Right, let's
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Speaker 1: you're a fighter.
Speaker 4: Ferry's got him in ten wins. He has got him
Speaker 4: in the seventh seeded playoffs. Now, Trey, you just walking
Speaker 4: right on and and.
Speaker 8: I didn't walk into the statement. You look, man, I
Speaker 8: told you. I said he's impossible, He's impressionable. I know
Speaker 8: I'm not. I'm hey, hey, Christ, roll back the clip,
Speaker 8: roll back to roll back the clip of what I said.
Speaker 8: I said, seven in the possible. But give me your
Speaker 8: training camp, I said, I can see it happening.
Speaker 1: They have the pieces show nothing hold on.
Speaker 5: Alone, y'all do to see yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't come on, I'm good.
Speaker 5: You mean I started to really do this.
Speaker 8: I told you what I said based off of last
Speaker 8: year at seven in the Possible, but with the tools
Speaker 8: that they're adding around him and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that and poticilarly. Let me see, I said,
Speaker 1: let me see camp to eight right now. First, I'm sticking.
Speaker 5: Say seven in the Possible. You're taking myself?
Speaker 1: That was me? First? What hold on? Did I not
Speaker 1: give the Spades analogy on here the Golden Book?
Speaker 5: I said, possibly, like Danny Craig, go pull it up.
Speaker 1: Chris Chris put on it.
Speaker 5: Chris always covered.
Speaker 8: I got myself, got about my phone, about Twitter, go
Speaker 8: to Twitter.
Speaker 1: Put that episode. I was, I love.
Speaker 5: You really don't know how long we've been doing this show.
Speaker 5: That's I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 4: So the bottom line, you sitting around this man got
Speaker 4: you thinking, you.
Speaker 1: Know about it?
Speaker 5: You're thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I thought, I think about a lot of things. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna renig hm hmm. Let wont be.
Speaker 8: You're the only ones you You're the only one that's
Speaker 8: in the books. Don't put me in the book.
Speaker 1: And after that, I'm in the book. I'm in the book.
Speaker 1: It can't be into get me to training.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's let's get back in the matter
Speaker 4: at hand. Here, Treyvon Diggs could possibly for for a
Speaker 4: half million dollars a lot of bredoms by the off
Speaker 4: season workout routine he's deciding to pursue. He's spending a
Speaker 4: lot of time in Miami. He's not here at the contracts.
Speaker 1: They take.
Speaker 4: You get your half million dollars, You do your little
Speaker 4: They want to see you. They want to see a
Speaker 4: face when they got you all that money. We need
Speaker 4: to see a face walking around the building. Shot your
Speaker 4: fight you want to say, fight, Church explained to the viewers.
Speaker 4: How long do you have to be up here during
Speaker 4: these ot as?
Speaker 1: Oh whatever, Well it depends what five days.
Speaker 5: A week here'd be working out.
Speaker 6: How many days it depends on your car. So for me,
Speaker 6: I had a stipulation. I had to be at eighty
Speaker 6: percent or whatever it was when you come to tha s. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and to me, I mean, I wasn't going anywhere away.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't forfit numb money even if it was a thousand.
Speaker 6: We know, we know, but.
Speaker 4: You just got to be Tuesday was a Thursday Tuesday
Speaker 4: was Thursday.
Speaker 10: That's it.
Speaker 1: Not all week, not all week, notf the weekend, not Monday.
Speaker 5: Tuesday was it Thursday.
Speaker 6: And we're pretty close to the airport boom two hours
Speaker 6: of the go to Tuesday was a Thursday.
Speaker 1: You just got to be and then you get the
Speaker 1: rest of your time to do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5: So Miami's open on Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1: Especially on Sunday.
Speaker 7: Correct, correct, it is it is, It is open, And if.
Speaker 4: You wanted to train with somebody, and you somebody in Miami,
Speaker 4: you definitely go.
Speaker 5: Considering he's a multiple that type of bread.
Speaker 4: Definitely that training staff will probably available on Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1: So great, I just yeah, I don't I understand it.
Speaker 1: Let me let me play Devil's Advocate for the voiceless.
Speaker 8: Oh, I just yeah, you sews yeah, black cart. But
Speaker 8: with that being said, yes, he can't get out of here,
Speaker 8: he can do all those things.
Speaker 1: But but.
Speaker 8: You got to ask yourself, why are you doing that?
Speaker 8: Like this ain't just some chump change one? Is it pride?
Speaker 8: And is it ego? And do you feel untouchable and
Speaker 8: realizing that this is untangible, are you going down there
Speaker 8: for training purposes. We see that your brothers having fun
Speaker 8: and doing certain things at a certain level, like all
Speaker 8: that stuff plays a factor into it. Like if my
Speaker 8: circle is saying, Hey, we about to go out of
Speaker 8: the country and go party and do this and that,
Speaker 8: guess what, I'm gonna be more inclined to do that.
Speaker 8: If I if my circle says, hey, you know what,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna stay over here at the facility and you
Speaker 8: at the facility, I'm not about to just have my
Speaker 8: authourage and be like, all right, I'm gonna go do
Speaker 8: this Like I'm gonna be more inclined to go do that.
Speaker 8: So if you want to, you ask yourself. A lot
Speaker 8: of these things can play a part into it. But ultimately,
Speaker 8: if he's a smart man, I hope that he's pulling
Speaker 8: the Ray Lewis. I hope that he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 8: I'm doing this because I need to go be by
Speaker 8: myself and get into that dungeon and just lock back
Speaker 8: into where I can go do something.
Speaker 1: It's a possibility we don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 8: But but that you got Pete Ba. But with that
Speaker 8: being said, once you get to a certain level, we
Speaker 8: all know that there's those players that make enough money
Speaker 8: to where they have their own regimens. Aaron Rodgers would
Speaker 8: go out the country and go do whatever he did. Well,
Speaker 8: that's such a bad comp's that's not a bad thing
Speaker 8: for his overall body of working.
Speaker 7: I'm just talking about at this stage in his career,
Speaker 7: which is, oh, yeah, you're good, you finished with now
Speaker 7: you're good. Like I'm just all I'm saying is like me, personally,
Speaker 7: I don't think he should be down there. I think
Speaker 7: perception is everything, especially when you don't there's so many
Speaker 7: questions about the defense.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be the leader?
Speaker 8: Is Michael Parsons the face of it, This can be
Speaker 8: your chance to cement yourself as the leader of the
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys defense. Being a former leader in interception, There's
Speaker 8: so many things that you could be doing in.
Speaker 1: The right direction now.
Speaker 8: Also, like I said, I just played Devil's advocate because
Speaker 8: I'm saying he could be doing this for whatever reason.
Speaker 8: It could be personal reasons. We don't know because he
Speaker 8: has not talked to us. But give him the dignity
Speaker 8: of doing that. He is a proven player and a
Speaker 8: proven started in this league. And if the Cowboys, if
Speaker 8: you don't hear Stephen Jones or Jerry Jones out here,
Speaker 8: because we know Jerry says what's on his mind. If
Speaker 8: you don't hear Jerry saying he needs to get down
Speaker 8: here and this is a big distraction, then it might
Speaker 8: not be as big a distraction as we're making it
Speaker 8: to be.
Speaker 1: But it's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: What's understood don't need to be stated in situations like this.
Speaker 6: And you've already signed your deal and you already know
Speaker 6: you talked about the eighty percent of whatever it is.
Speaker 7: You have to be here for OTAs. I understand that
Speaker 7: athletes are superstitious and you know, for whatever reasons, whoever, whatever,
Speaker 7: all a liniment you've been you had on you, I
Speaker 7: get it right, but you have to show up. This
Speaker 7: is This is Brian Schottenheimer's first ota IS as a
Speaker 7: head coach, and he is building Trayvon Diggs. Was it
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one where he set the record eleven interceptions?
Speaker 1: That was at the year? I want to say that
Speaker 1: was it, But he and Deron Bland, these are two.
Speaker 7: These are two guys that we haven't been able to
Speaker 7: see play at the same time, and injuries have derailed
Speaker 7: that for both of these guys. And finally we're at
Speaker 7: a place, even coming off of the injury that he
Speaker 7: had last season, where both of these guys could tip
Speaker 7: may be healthy for the beginning of the season. That
Speaker 7: would be huge for the Dallas Cowboys defensive would be
Speaker 7: huge for the psyche of this team and an organization
Speaker 7: and fan base. And I think he's missing an opportunity.
Speaker 7: I don't understand for the half a million, Like you know,
Speaker 7: I'm being able to make it up on the back
Speaker 7: end or somewhere else. That's a half a million today,
Speaker 7: not tomorrow. And that is what I don't think is
Speaker 7: smart for him in a from a business aspect. But
Speaker 7: I want when I see these these videos of these
Speaker 7: clips of him rehabbing, I'm like, Okay, that's cool, But
Speaker 7: where you need to be is here with this Dallas
Speaker 7: Cowboys rehab with these doctors here and working with the
Speaker 7: team and understanding and getting the vibe for the just
Speaker 7: overall aura that they're building here in this environment.
Speaker 1: And he's missing out on that.
Speaker 4: So, according to Calvin Waking, he quotes Dixon's contract, sayce
Speaker 4: he loses a half million dollars of his nine million
Speaker 4: dollars space salary if he doesn't complete at least eighty
Speaker 4: four percent of the workouts. And he also says, with
Speaker 4: these organized team activities which are voluntary right now, the
Speaker 4: team is ninety five percent of the team is here
Speaker 4: working out right now. And he goes on to say
Speaker 4: it's not a good look. That's a Calvin Waker will say, hey,
Speaker 4: it's not a good look. And he also talks about
Speaker 4: Parsons not being here. But I think we all know
Speaker 4: and understand Michael Parsons is a stratespy or that that digs,
Speaker 4: and he's not coming off of injuries.
Speaker 1: And that's the and that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 8: He is not coming off of injury, injuries, and that's
Speaker 8: why me personally do I think he should be here
Speaker 8: coming off of injury. On top of that, Micah not
Speaker 8: being here, like I said, this is the chance to
Speaker 8: solidify yourself, like if you plan on playing however much
Speaker 8: longer and going to get that bag, like this is
Speaker 8: the opportunity where like, hey, Michael's not here. We know
Speaker 8: why he's not going to be here, but now we're
Speaker 8: looking for our next big name and that's star leader.
Speaker 1: And so that's.
Speaker 8: Where I feel like he's doing himself a disservice. But
Speaker 8: not even even if you didn't come every single day,
Speaker 8: like you said, Let's get this straight, it is voluntary
Speaker 8: at least if you showed up two out of the
Speaker 8: three days. Because we all know those vets that when
Speaker 8: you came into the locker room and it's like, oh,
Speaker 8: I got to leave out at the end of the
Speaker 8: week to go take care of this and that, like
Speaker 8: you need to be here in some form and capacity.
Speaker 8: But I also know that certain guys when they wasn't here,
Speaker 8: you looked at them and said.
Speaker 1: Hey, like, oh, I know why he's not here.
Speaker 8: And so my question is, has he proven to people
Speaker 8: that he's a guy that don't need to be here
Speaker 8: right now?
Speaker 6: And you got a new defensive coordinator, you know that
Speaker 6: you got to figure out the defensive coordinator. And not
Speaker 6: only that, you put more pressure on yourself. I mean,
Speaker 6: cause if you come in in the beginning of the season,
Speaker 6: you don't have football field, you don't ball out.
Speaker 1: We all know how it works. We all know how
Speaker 1: it worked outside.
Speaker 6: But people in the building, we know they gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 6: I told you he ain't a worker. You're gonna get
Speaker 6: that narrative started. So it's a lot of pressure you
Speaker 6: putting on yourself.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, man, quote the great Darren Hambrick and Chris Being.
Speaker 4: You were there when he said this, what do voluntary mean?
Speaker 1: We know what it means, mean what it means, and so.
Speaker 5: Like a Parsons voluntary, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 4: Diggs is voluntary, then Guiden's voluntary.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott wife had a baby last week.
Speaker 1: Next day he's still here.
Speaker 8: And that's and that's what's gonna make it bad for
Speaker 8: you to say, like, oh, this man just had a
Speaker 8: baby and he showed up the very next day here
Speaker 8: and accountable. It's like people look at you or so,
Speaker 8: Like I said, perceptions everything, and it's like the great
Speaker 8: Bill Parcell, like I just had to play double's advocate
Speaker 8: and say I would hope that it's a great reason
Speaker 8: he's doing it, like Ray Lewis, because people understood if
Speaker 8: Ray wasn't in the building, everyone in the building, it's
Speaker 8: because of that. But I'm going to sit here and
Speaker 8: say that for you to be gone, you're messing up
Speaker 8: your duckies. Bill Parcell came in there and said, hey,
Speaker 8: one day I had a backup quarterback. He was sleeping
Speaker 8: my meeting He said, I walked over there, woke him
Speaker 8: up and fired him. When the media asked him where
Speaker 8: was he at and it was time to talk to him,
Speaker 8: he said he was sleeping my meeting. He didn't want
Speaker 8: to be here and that was a disrespect to me.
Speaker 8: A reporter asked him and said, what would you done
Speaker 8: at Dalls Philipson? He said that Philip sim you know
Speaker 8: what I did. I'd have walked over there just like
Speaker 8: I did the other cat, and I had have tapped
Speaker 8: him on the shoulder just like I did him, and
Speaker 8: I said, hey, you need a pillow.
Speaker 4: When Ray Lewis was this Ray Posts Super Bowl MVP
Speaker 4: Ray and established you.
Speaker 1: Earned your right, that's why.
Speaker 8: But I did I not just say a few minutes ago,
Speaker 8: And you got to ask yourself, like.
Speaker 1: To other people, has he earned that right? But to
Speaker 1: himself obviously.
Speaker 7: He feels like what s what ses me is the
Speaker 7: perception because the perception is not always reality, and you
Speaker 7: can't overcome that. You know, as as football players, you
Speaker 7: got your helmet on, nobody's hearing what you're saying, so
Speaker 7: you could be perceived. However, the media and everybody else
Speaker 7: is saying it. You're talking about Hey, first game of
Speaker 7: the season out there versus the Philadelphia A. J. Brown
Speaker 7: burns you on an eighty yard bomb? What is everybody
Speaker 7: going to talk about? And it's gonna beat it in
Speaker 7: the building?
Speaker 6: Seen like cats didn't come around and Henna be ready
Speaker 6: for But that's a that's.
Speaker 7: Another question and you cannot answer that because he's not
Speaker 7: in the building. You don't know that, and that's those
Speaker 7: are questions that you need to have answered because Hey, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know about yild but in two more months it
Speaker 1: gets funky.
Speaker 4: Got to get a break break in here when we
Speaker 4: come back, it's still not done. The Michael Parsons steal.
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Speaker 4: You guys, got anybody in the league. Now, you got
Speaker 4: anybody in the league, Okay, do a lot of them. Quiet,
Speaker 4: we got a lot of your quarterback now the league?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 8: You you focused on one person, man, like how many
Speaker 8: cute dogs y'all.
Speaker 1: Got out here?
Speaker 4: Focused on the dude that it ain't illegally, I just
Speaker 4: asked you about who's in there now, Man, we ain't
Speaker 4: got to do We ain't got to do a man
Speaker 4: while y'all doing the you know, okay, the break off
Speaker 4: we talked about that.
Speaker 1: I do not like that.
Speaker 5: Boy here likes barking.
Speaker 1: Words. I could have way, I could have the ball.
Speaker 5: Here things.
Speaker 1: We don't do that.
Speaker 5: About.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 7: Today hopefully the Q still got a fraternity. Let's do it, man,
Speaker 7: Come on, Michael Parsons needs to get paid, need to
Speaker 7: get paid.
Speaker 4: Jones got sensitive this week a little bit, MANA all
Speaker 4: the questions, you know, the questions are coming. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: that's the part that he was frustrated about taking the
Speaker 4: question what else is there going to be asked right now?
Speaker 4: Because you're going down the same road again. A key
Speaker 4: player who must be signed, A key player who the
Speaker 4: defensive coordinators would love to have right here in the
Speaker 4: OTA so they can get to know him, he gets
Speaker 4: to know them. We saw last year Mike Zimmer speaking
Speaker 4: about some of the challenges that he had in bringing
Speaker 4: in his new defense and trying to make the pieces fit.
Speaker 4: There was not one hundred percent buy in last year
Speaker 4: from guys. So why not make sure your best defensive player,
Speaker 4: your weapon, is happy, signed and plugged in with the
Speaker 4: new coaches. That's the part for me that I just say, like, man, guys,
Speaker 4: get this done. Hasn't gotten done yet?
Speaker 1: What you think, man, Man, you gotta get that done. Man. Whoever,
Speaker 1: it's time, what it's time to make you playing happy.
Speaker 8: It's time to roll out the red the red coats,
Speaker 8: like the red carpet, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 8: whatever analogy. You got to make them happy, Like why
Speaker 8: why not? Especially when they're proven, like he's proven that
Speaker 8: he's a premier pass rusher, your defensive coordinator on them,
Speaker 8: They're like, you're missing your jail right now, Like why
Speaker 8: not bring Batman in here right now? And you have
Speaker 8: the legion of you're trying to form the super Friends
Speaker 8: right now. You can't even do that because Batman's not
Speaker 8: here to take off.
Speaker 7: So I think the frustration, the frustrating thing is that
Speaker 7: is the theatrics of the contracts. Each and every season,
Speaker 7: you have guys that need to get signed. You know this,
Speaker 7: prior to I'm gonna say, Tyler Smith needs to get
Speaker 7: taken care of.
Speaker 1: Deron Bland is gonna be you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So all of these guys that are going to be
Speaker 7: reaching the platform, how are those gonna be taken over?
Speaker 7: And with Micah's deal to me, and seemingly it seems
Speaker 7: easy because you're gonna make him one of the highest
Speaker 7: non quarterbacks in the league. So get to the numbers
Speaker 7: and this whole back and forth about who's his agent,
Speaker 7: and you know, like, look, you know exactly who his
Speaker 7: agent is. The deal should already be done by now.
Speaker 7: And if we extend this all the way through camp
Speaker 7: and have to go through this with michaeh especially like
Speaker 7: again with Brin Schoenhamer's first year as a head coach,
Speaker 7: that would be disappointing to me for it to be
Speaker 7: right before the.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles game.
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons is now back in the locker room because
Speaker 7: you know that this can get messy, and they can
Speaker 7: ill afford for this to get messy, especially with this
Speaker 7: new coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I agree with y'all. He needs to be paid.
Speaker 6: I agree to one hundred percent. The one thing I'm
Speaker 6: saying for the owners is they I don't believe they
Speaker 6: want this to be like the NBA. Like the NBA
Speaker 6: is a player driven they strong arm, Hey, I want
Speaker 6: to get traded.
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to go here, I want to go there.
Speaker 1: I'm strong arm in everybody. They don't.
Speaker 6: I don't believe the owners want the NFL to be
Speaker 6: like that. So how many years Michael Parsons got left?
Speaker 6: He has what this year? And if you're an option,
Speaker 6: if you know well they will be next year is
Speaker 6: the fifth next year? If you're so, I mean, I
Speaker 6: get from the owner's perspective, they don't want to be
Speaker 6: strong armed like this, this is our league. We will
Speaker 6: let you understand when when we want you all to
Speaker 6: get paid. But I agree with y'all one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: You don't want this to snowball until it's it's a
Speaker 6: situation where you got pay the man forty five mil
Speaker 6: or something crazy like that.
Speaker 8: And that's the biggest thing is about Like it's like
Speaker 8: my dad used to always say, I'm not about to
Speaker 8: have a pisson match, Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: play the game within the game, play chess and not checkers.
Speaker 8: And so from the owner's perspective, yes, you don't want
Speaker 8: it to be a player driven league. But also from
Speaker 8: an owner's perspective, if I'm an owner, I'm gonna say, hey,
Speaker 8: and hey, they get paid far more than me.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why they're in the cease that they're in.
Speaker 8: But if I'm playing Madden at home on my franchise,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna try to get this man taking.
Speaker 1: Care of last year, so I ain't gotta do it
Speaker 1: this fifth year.
Speaker 8: Wh that price, Like what DJ Kellen said, yesterday's price
Speaker 8: ain't today's price. And it keeps going up. So if
Speaker 8: he comes back in here do everything that he's capable
Speaker 8: of doing, that price tag just got that much higher.
Speaker 8: You haven't seen t J. White got paid like Miles
Speaker 8: Garretton got paid. So like when you could have made
Speaker 8: him the highest player player non QB player by one dollar,
Speaker 8: just more than that, I guarantee you he would have
Speaker 8: took it, and that it wouldn't have been.
Speaker 1: And that was fat Joe, And so that said, yesterday's fat,
Speaker 1: But here's the kalient. Well no, no, no, it's a here's
Speaker 1: it's fat job said, here's the right. DJ Kalen made
Speaker 1: it famous. What are you thinking?
Speaker 7: But all right, and Jimmy, it was Jimmy Johnson that
Speaker 7: said that about the quarterback too.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, here's the deal. I got a
Speaker 1: great quote. It's it's okay, it's okay in this why.
Speaker 7: Is why, this is why, this is why my point
Speaker 7: about get it done, Get it done. Get him in
Speaker 7: the building, whether it's a Pisson match or whatever it is,
Speaker 7: the brinks truck up and don't allow for the season
Speaker 7: to start with your defensive leader, not in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1: And he's doing everything right. He's trying to he's trying.
Speaker 1: He's not in trouble.
Speaker 8: He's trying everything right. Heil he built the brand. That's
Speaker 8: on the it's on part with the America's not in trouble.
Speaker 8: It's the players.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: Hey, bro, you're gonna stop trying to do that. Like
Speaker 8: just like, get your pinky up, baby, we take.
Speaker 1: That Take that shot. Take that shot. You take that shot.
Speaker 1: You've been acting different, bro, that's all. That's all. That's
Speaker 1: all you I've been a.
Speaker 4: Different by the way, shout out yeah Harrison for the
Speaker 4: shade butter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how you're looking right, you're not sharing.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do the new thing. No, don't worry about me.
Speaker 7: It's a special special requests.
Speaker 1: Wow, I got you. Wow you got man?
Speaker 5: Know what about well my man ice bag?
Speaker 1: Where where was at the next side?
Speaker 5: About that?
Speaker 14: You know?
Speaker 1: I brought you back?
Speaker 6: Christ christer, crack gaming, crack you nik?
Speaker 1: Why but I know I'm the new guy. But can
Speaker 1: I put my little ash?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 7: All that money that Wow, you're probably all that money
Speaker 7: you got ain't but always you got.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying I like I wish I had some parents,
Speaker 8: don't get don't give grooming charter.
Speaker 5: That sound Chris goodbye.
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