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Speaker 1: is Jack's birthday. Jack and Jack Whipple, you guys, is

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Speaker 1: our guests on the show today. He is the founder

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Whipple Effect and Psycho Nut Genetics. Now.

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Speaker 1: Whipple Effect is a consulting firm that specializes in designing

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Speaker 1: So he's been doing this for fifteen years, folks, He's

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Speaker 1: two of them, Jack and Joe, the J J. Whipples.

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Speaker 1: They have decided to centralize their knowledge and focus into

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Speaker 1: help folks out. They understand cultivation science, They organize in

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Speaker 1: and creating and discovering new cannabis genetics so that they

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Speaker 1: that specializes in breeding new strains of cannabis by crossing

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Speaker 1: and after which I can't wait to get into Jack.

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Speaker 1: What those are. They believe that psychedelic plant medicine is

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Mr Jack Whipple is here with us

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Jack. Hey, thanks guys, it's uh. I'm so

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Speaker 1: grateful to be here at your studio. Blue and I

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Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, I was like coming down, not really,

426
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: not off eight you're still riding. You're right that next day,

427
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: but go ahead, let's put it this way. I was alert,

428
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: and so I sat down at our dining room table

429
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: and both of my younger brothers were there. Um, and

430
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: how old are you? Exactly two maybe I was twenty

431
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: two and um, and I had all these pictures of

432
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: like safe full of money and tons of weed and

433
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: all these different things, and I was like, just to

434
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: prove it to him. And I was like, this is

435
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: what I've done, this is what I've been good at, UM,

436
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 1: and I do it with a big heart, and I

437
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: feel I feel in alignment with myself and I don't

438
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: feel like what this is, what I'm doing is wrong. UM,

439
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: and I want to go do it legally and Colorado,

440
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: will you support me? And he was like, dude, you

441
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: are so fucking lucky your mom is not here. I

442
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: got your back. He jumped up, gave me a big hug,

443
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: and he was like, go to Colorado and come back

444
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: and I've got you. And then I was in Colorado

445
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: three weeks later that your dad, Yeah, and show really,

446
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: in fact, welcome Jack's dad to the show. Come on,

447
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: Mr Whipple. Yeah. But but yeah, my dad's one of

448
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: my best friends and really my best friend and my

449
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: number one idol, and he had my back and helped

450
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: me get my first legal growth started like a year

451
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: and a half after we had that conversation, and it

452
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: was like, I did mom jump aboard to Dad, just

453
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: handle it. Yeah. Mom was at the first time that

454
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: they they gave me the first installment to lease. Uh.

455
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: My first building was actually in an old missile silo

456
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: that was built by Beechcraft right after World War two. Um,

457
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. Um. And when we they

458
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: made me, they told me like, if you acquire uh,

459
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: the first round of investment dollars will give you enough

460
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: money just to put down the down payment for rent. Um.

461
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: So after two weeks of I've been trying to raise

462
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: money for cannabis for two years and just getting denied

463
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: and denied and denied. And on the last day before

464
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: they were going to give the lease to someone else. Uh,

465
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: we had these amazing investors make the commitment and it

466
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: was all based on a hug. We had no contract.

467
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: So I called my parents. They had just landed in

468
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Hawaii on their honeymoon. I was like, Dad, I'm so sorry,

469
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: I need you to wire money to this guy right now. UM.

470
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: My mom was not happy. He called me after the trip.

471
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: He was like, dude, I was in the doghouse for

472
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: like half of our honeymoon. I was like, you already know, Yeah,

473
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: that's what alright, let's go and then and then I'll

474
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: deal with her later. Yeah, you know what I mean,

475
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: I'll push let's go. That's so amazing and what a

476
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: wonderful family. Did you pay him back? Yep, let's give

477
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: that a round of up for that. For Jack, I

478
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: have a tiny tiny bit left, but I've paid him

479
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: back almost and full fantastic. Man. That's what life's about, though, man,

480
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: because we all need a hand and sometimes in your

481
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: story like that, to come into game like that is wonderful.

482
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: And now you get these effects? How did that psychedelic

483
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: get you? Like? Where was the first boo? Because now

484
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you start a psychedelic company like I hear where the

485
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: weed came in? When did the psychedelics come? That was

486
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: back when I was fifteen two? Like right around did

487
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: I first started smoking weed? Um? Yeah? And do you

488
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: have any right now? Can we turn this whole party around?

489
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: It was about to go on a Wednesday. That's that's way.

490
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: My shirt says, uh, this is from maps and it says,

491
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: asked me about psychedelics. Yeah, if you get into it,

492
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: And now how do you build this company? And what

493
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of products do you have with this company? What

494
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: does that company do? So Psychanogenetics really has been like

495
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: my ultimate dream company ever since I got into cannabis,

496
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: because I've always been like for blue nets, like everyone

497
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: that's been in the game for a long time. Genetics

498
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: are really what like connect you. You know, like when

499
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I first started growing, you couldn't just like go to

500
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: a commercial nursery and buy a bunch of amazing, like

501
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: ridiculously good genetics like you can in l A right now.

502
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, Like the only way to get good genetics

503
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: was building deep relationships with people doing some deals, and

504
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: then it was all based on trust. So like every

505
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: single genetic comes with like an amazing story to someone

506
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: cool along the past. So I was always into genetics

507
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: or some amazing affections, like I said, and the bad

508
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I'll take a thousand of them. And then he come,

509
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: they're all fucking just yeah they got bugged, And you're like,

510
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: what the funk was that all about? Like, my bad, Like,

511
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: my bad, you just ruined the next three months in

512
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: my life. You answer with these how many times that happening?

513
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Stop it happens, dude. It's like that can happen at

514
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: any time. I mean it can, yeah, well it does

515
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: all the time. Still, there's no way to get around it.

516
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean at one point. I mean you really good

517
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: operators can get by, you know what I mean. They

518
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: can tell you when it's hey look, and they're smart.

519
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: You gotta catch it sooner. You do preventedive IPM all

520
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the time, just assuming that something might come in because

521
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: like in Phoenix, we have two hundred and fifty employees

522
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have homegrows and stuff because

523
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: you can legally cultivate a few plants at home. Um So,

524
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: your odds of someone accidentally bringing something in, even though

525
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: we have scrubs and all this different stuff, it's possible.

526
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Um So, you know, you do preventive IPM just to

527
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: prepare and to try to stay as safe as possible.

528
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: But you know, cannabis cultivation is not easy, you know,

529
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: every everyone that's really in it. You know. That's that's

530
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: another part the bonds us all together, you know it,

531
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Like you said earlier, Blue, it's an emotional roller coaster.

532
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: It takes tons of patience. If something comes up, you

533
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: can't just like overreact and go overboard or you're really

534
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: damage the plants. So you know that's why. And everybody

535
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: wants to you know, they want to feed it more.

536
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: They want to give it more, and what ends up

537
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: happening is they end up killing it more. Now the

538
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: plants and really stress, you know. And that's what's super

539
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: special about growing weed. It's like the cannabis plant. I

540
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: tell everyone has been the best teacher of my entire life. Um,

541
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: because you know, in order to grow a really successful crop,

542
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: it takes consistency. You know, you have to give the

543
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: plants to write amount of food every single day. Uh.

544
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: We have different techniques with crop steering to like stress

545
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: the plants at different times for different effects. UM. To

546
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: think that you've learned that that experience that you just

547
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: to say that, like, you know, maybe somebody would not

548
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: know how to do that and come out with such

549
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: great product and such big grows. And your first grow

550
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: was it one plant? Wasn't the first four? Girl? Because

551
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: I want to know what your smallest to your largest is.

552
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: So my very first grow ever is another interesting story.

553
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: I was in the hundred Year flood and Boulder like

554
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: a month after moving there. Um, Boulder had this crazy

555
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: flood and I was in a garden level apartment and

556
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: my entire apartment filled with sewer water and I lost everything,

557
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: including your lease. Yeah, like what the parents like, what

558
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: do you mean you're fucking I had I had an

559
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: upstairs grow two once and and right here down the

560
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: street and back in the wee days and ship, and

561
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't my first grow, but it was. It was

562
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: my funnest grow because I had it in you know,

563
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: my my previous recording studio and Pitt remembers and ship.

564
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: So I had my grow up there, and all of

565
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, I got a call and I had I

566
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: had a fake wall so you couldn't even see the ship.

567
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: You'd be walking through the whole place, and and it

568
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: was all the walls were carpeted in the studio because

569
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: it was a studio, you know what I mean. So

570
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: literally had to like pull a flat back unscrewed bolt,

571
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, move another boat and the whole wall will

572
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: come off, and then you know, you know, blew with

573
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: that motherfucking down every time I left, right it was.

574
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: And then you go upstairs, and when you went up

575
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: the stairs, it was a girl back there, and you

576
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: couldn't even see the whole place. It looked like it

577
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: was just dead. So long story short, though, I got

578
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: a call and the landlords like bro the studio equipment.

579
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: There's it's fucking raining in the studio. What's going on?

580
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: There's water fucking you know, ankle deep and ship and uh,

581
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: long story short. Luckily I had a really good uh

582
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, team of landlords and attorneys. I guess, you

583
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: know turned off the water. Oh, we shut down the water.

584
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: But I mean it was just I fucking you know

585
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: at all what It was good It worked out because

586
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: I had good insurance. So yeah, you know, mine was

587
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: my story. Finnish is just like check this as insurance, buddy,

588
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: so check it out. I got displaced and then I

589
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: was a FEMA victim. So FEMA put me up in

590
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: a hotel for three months, and then they lost a

591
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent of all my belongings and all my furniture.

592
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: So FEMA gave me an installment of like, I don't know,

593
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred bucks or something. Um, And after three months,

594
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I moved back into that apartment. UM. And I was

595
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend at the time, and I was like,

596
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, but I'm investing a hundred percent of

597
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: this money into a weed tent and I'm gonna grow

598
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: weed in the bedroom. And I'm just buying us a

599
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: cheap mattress and we're sleeping in the living room and

600
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: so she must have really liked you. Yeah, she bounced

601
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: in like three weeks. Hey my real I would have

602
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: kept her and the Weed would have been saying no, no,

603
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: but then said, so check this out. So then at

604
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: the time I was flying to Santarez, taking the bus up.

605
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: While I was flying to San Francis US taking the

606
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: bus up to Santa Rosa, dubaie weed um, and then

607
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: shipped back to the Midwest. So I would leave for

608
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: a week at a time I come back. It was

609
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: a successful trip. I was feeling really proud of myself

610
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: and excited, you know, because this trips were stressful. So

611
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: whenever you would get back, uh, you would do a

612
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: little touchdown dance. I give back and there's an eviction

613
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: due on my door and I'm like, oh god, what

614
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: is this And they were like I had changed my

615
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: number from an Indiana number to a Colorado number. Um,

616
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: And they're like, we tried to call you. We had

617
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: a mandatory fire inspection, so we let them in and

618
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: we found this cannabis grow in your bedroom and you

619
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: need to like, we're not going to press charges against you.

620
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: You were allowed to have six in Colorado and I

621
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: had eight, so they were cool about it, but they

622
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: were like, you need to get this out immediately. So

623
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: that night, like I was tired from traveling all day,

624
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I immediately rented a U haul and immediately took it

625
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: to a friend's grow and then he helped me finish

626
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: my first eight plants, which were golden goat love it. Yeah,

627
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: that was ever ten years ago now, so that was

628
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: way way way back. How amazing is that, Jack Whipple.

629
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: You're amazing, dude. We're gonna go to break real quick.

630
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: Before we go, though, you guys, I want to remind

631
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: you about the Burning Trees Festival. It's gonna be great

632
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: August in Atalanto, California, performing live on stage. Of course

633
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: the boss Man himself, Rick Ross, Ludacrous, Buster Rods, Big Draco,

634
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: a k A. Soldier Boy, Too Short, Havoc from the

635
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: infamous Mob Deep Extra, the Z Exhibit, and Corrupt Young Gotti,

636
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: and of course just added you guys on stage for

637
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Speaker 1: the very first time, Mr Jack Whipple. So go to

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Speaker 1: They really do. And real quick, you guys want to

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Speaker 1: shout out the staff here that's been doing so wonderful

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Speaker 1: around here. Seriously, you guys, you guys have been doing

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Speaker 1: a great job. And uh jan Erica Daniel cal Christian

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Speaker 1: A Christians, Danny p Funk, Connor, Gabrielle, Jessica Cash, cam Kimberly,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Solar, Nadia, Ali Pitt, Devon, Chris Frankino, Jennifer for Elvis,

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Speaker 1: and Mark Carnes. Thank you so much for everything that

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00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: you guys all do. Jack, we're looking at your products

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Speaker 1: at your birthday today, and Blue just goes, look at

665
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: all this dope cannabis he has right look at this

666
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: product line he has. Tell us exactly what you have

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00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: in front of us, and how many I know I

668
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: mentioned at the beginning, but what are we looking at

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: right here on this great packaging and everything else. Um So,

670
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: this beautiful packaging and sitting before us is the true

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00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Infusion brand. Um So, there are a client and partner

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Um So, shout out to dj DJ designs

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: all of this. I think they do a really great job.

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00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: Um And then the clear jars. The reason those aren't

675
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: packages because that was from a pheno hunt. Um So,

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: those were strains that we created through psycho nut um

677
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: and then we popped a bunch of seeds and then

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Speaker 1: every single seed. For those of you in the audience

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: that aren't familiar every single seed, even though some of

680
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: them might have the same parents. Uh, they all have

681
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: slightly different expressions from different terpenes because one will lead

682
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: lean towards one parent or the other. Um So, I

683
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: brought a few different phenotypes from our most recent pheno

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Speaker 1: hunts so that everyone can try it afterwards. But how

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00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: many of you guys want to try it? In the back?

686
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: You guys ready to try something? Yeah, we're gonna get

687
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: you high today. You know it ain't Friday. If you're

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna get Hiriday Jack, we'd like to do the high

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Speaker 1: five with everybody in all the different products. And before

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Speaker 1: we do, are you then, as you say that in

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Speaker 1: the couple, are you white labeling in for a lot

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00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: of other companies as well? Um So, True Infusion every

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00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: the nine of everything's package under the True Infusion brand.

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Speaker 1: Um and then our project that just launched in l

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Speaker 1: A is going to be white label. Um So We've

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Speaker 1: worked with a bunch of different brands over all the years,

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00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: but right now True Infusion in Phoenix and then the

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00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: brand that we're gonna be starting uh in l A

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00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: is going to be called a J Flower Coe. But

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Speaker 1: we'll also be doing a little bit of white level

701
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: nice the Whipple effects, folks. I love the whole theory

702
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: and theme behind it all because it makes sense and

703
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: hearing what you're doing while effects don't say you really

704
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: should because I've seen your excitement about his grow abilities.

705
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: This is my man. I've seen him for a long time.

706
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: I can tell by the way I love acts, like, whoa,

707
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: you got a good thing going? Well? The thing his thing? Man?

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00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I like people that get shit done,

709
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You don't give it up

710
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: to somebody if they don't deserve. Yeah, no, I'll just

711
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: see her quietly, you know what I mean. I'm really like, Oh, cool,

712
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: you're the man. Oh cool like Jack, while no, he's hot,

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00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: This dude's hot. You're hot. And and I've known that

714
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: since we met. And I think the first time you

715
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: met you were on mushrooms at work. Pretty sure we

716
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: had a like and then he was breaking it down.

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00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's a mad scientist. And it's

718
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: not like I said, it's not. Um, it's not easy

719
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: to walk into a grow learned metric, learn how to

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Speaker 1: to act, operate the facility, and they come out and

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Speaker 1: and and triple someone's growth. You know, and I've seen

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Speaker 1: him do it, and I watched him do it, you know,

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00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: for about a year that I was going back and

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00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: forth to that that facility, and I've seen them prior

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00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: to that. Before he got to that facility, because it

726
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: was brand new. I walked in, I'm like, yo, what's up.

727
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I'm Jack, and you know, he's running around.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, and I didn't think much

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Speaker 1: of it. But then as I you know, watched the

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Speaker 1: development of the company, I watched what they started doing.

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Speaker 1: I watched how they how they grown, and they've gotten

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Speaker 1: that capital our respect. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta know when

733
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Speaker 1: when someone's in there, you know, uh, you know, crushing

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Speaker 1: the game, and they guy knows what he's doing. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hide it, you know. And guess what, Jack,

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Speaker 1: you earned all that from a real g himself that's

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Speaker 1: saying it. So that's even more impressive to me when

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Speaker 1: he says all that and I'm looking at the dude like,

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00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, I see what he's gotten done and do

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00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: all this. To know what you're doing is very impressive,

741
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The whipple effect for him to

742
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: even feel I want to do a song that tells

743
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: me even more in my head that you don't know right.

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00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: He just put you at a whole another level of

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00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: respect factor of like, wow, do you must be so

746
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: so great at what you do that he knows this right?

747
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: And I just reading and knowing, but he knows. And

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00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: that's why I'm just making sure you know that that

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00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: respect is there. So as we get into this high

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00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: five with you, Jack, your company is amazing. I can't

751
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: wait to see where we go with it and what

752
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: we do with it. But we're here for you. We

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: support you on your motherfucking birthday. It's your birthday. It's

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00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: your birthday. Question number one of the high Jack Whipple,

755
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: the founder and CEO Whipple Effect and Psycho Genetics, Google them,

756
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: find him and ask for them at a place near you.

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00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: How old you the first trees? Are you excited to

758
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: see that burning trees on that line up? Oh? Man? Ludicrous?

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00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: For sure. It would be the first. Yeah, Astley and

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: I saw later Chris when he came to Palm Springs

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: a few months ago, and it was one of the

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00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: best hip hop shows I've ever seen. I find ludicrous

763
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: to be my r buster. Rhys in my headline or

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00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: two like those are my god. I go nuts, like

765
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: I get it's funny because it's like she's like, oh Jack.

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00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's Jack earlier? And they know but so

767
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: seen him? And then I was like, that's my guy?

768
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Did I an't seen because I hadn't seen you in

769
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: so long? Everybody telling me Jack's coming, blah blah blah.

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00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: We should do some ship. I was like, man, I

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00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm actually very happy that that, you know,

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00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I let the ship go down? You man

773
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: doing ship? You know? Yeah? You know that was a

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00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: real story. Ever gonna do some ship? I was like, man,

775
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: we're not doing ship, hey, Jack, it's a real ship.

776
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: He was like, and then other shows like Dog you

777
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: know that? And I didn't know the whole story, but

778
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: I know if he said it was good on the

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00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: first good and for this the party to go down,

780
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: then he's like, why would I know? Because when he

781
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: when he I didn't know it was you. You know

782
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. To be honest, I didn't. It's been

783
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: three or four years. Yeah, yeah, I'll walk it up.

784
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, they're telling me like he said, he

785
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: knows you from another girl and the other my team's

786
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: giving me an insight. I look up, I'm like, oh,

787
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: that's my homeboy. Let's subject. Isn't that funny? Like that

788
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: like the boxing thing that happened in Vegas for me,

789
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: a similar thing. So Jack, let's get to this question

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00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: number one of the high five. First off, dog real spit.

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00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you. Thank you. To see

792
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: where this goes is gonna be very enjoyable. Your knowledge

793
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: is as appreciated by the whole industry because you were

794
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: really sending out medicine to really change the world. And

795
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: that's what I see you doing on a real, respectable,

796
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: real spit level. So as we get to the high five,

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00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: thank you for that question number one? How old you

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00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the first time you smoked cannabis? Jack? And where'd you

799
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: get it from? So? I was fifteen and I was

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: with two friends from Indiana Tyler and Marcus ut Tyler.

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00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: Thank you avon Indiana. Um. So they rolled up a

802
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: blunt and we were in my neighborhood. I grew up

803
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: in a decent sized neighborhood that I had three interests.

804
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: So we're in the far entrance from my house. UM,

805
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and I had never smoked anything, so you know, they

806
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: had to like teach me how to inhale and and whatnot. Um.

807
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: So they rolled up a blunt. We smoked the entire thing,

808
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and I just got like the highest that I can

809
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: even I can't even describe how high I got. It

810
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: was like straight psychedelic plant medicine at the house like that. No, no,

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00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: I was in their car. So so what I told them,

812
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you gotta drop me off on

813
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: the far side of the neighborhood. I gotta walk back

814
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: because if I smell like this, my parents are gonna

815
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: absolutely kill me. So they dropped me off on the

816
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: far side and I'm walking back, and I was like straight,

817
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: I felt like I was teleporting. I was a lousening. Yeah,

818
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: like I would like be walking and look over and

819
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: I felt like I was like jumping frames all the

820
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: way through the I can relate. I remember feeling that

821
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Speaker 1: way as a kid. Sometimes That's what I'm saying. I

822
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: could relate to that feeling sober, still feel like that.

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Speaker 1: What's the number two of the high five? What is

824
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: your favorite way to use or smoke cannabis? Um. It's

825
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: definitely in ceremony you talked about the ceremony. That's exactly

826
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. That you just came off

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00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: of a ceremony in the desert somewhere, remember that. Yeah,

828
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm big in the plant medicine ceremonies and I don't

829
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: think a lot of people know about this, but I

830
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: learned this through Yeah. So I started a nonprofit called

831
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: a Sacred trip Um And who I learned from was

832
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: this group in Colorado called Medicinal Mindfulness Um. And what

833
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: it is we make special blends of cannabis. So we

834
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: take an indica, a hybrid and sativa and we age

835
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the indica and the sun and what that's a there's

836
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of alchemy in that because that oxidizes

837
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the THHC and the CBN. Then we blend all those

838
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: up under a full moon with a bunch of prayers

839
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: and intention and then hold a ceremony where we open

840
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: the ceremony and everyone smokes, so we have the ceremonial blend.

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00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: We opened the ceremony to the cardinal directions the above,

842
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the blow the within, and everyone takes a hit, honoring

843
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: the archetypal energies of our world. And then everyone lays

844
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: down with eye covers and we have a two hour

845
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: long sound journey on cannabis that's like a cannabis meditation,

846
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: and it's really powerful and it's like beautiful. I've had

847
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: some of like the most powerful plant medicine healings actions

848
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: just from cannabis smoking in that format. Dude, that was

849
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: the best answer I've ever heard of this. And so

850
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: this just flashback me too when him and I really met,

851
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: because that's exactly the conversation we had that he was

852
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: telling me about his ceremonies. He was getting ready to

853
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: either have one or just came off of one, and uh,

854
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: I think he just came off with warm and uh

855
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he gets one of the shoes out there too.

856
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I always tell everyone I don't know nothing about nobody.

857
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Question number three of the high five craziest place you

858
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: ever used cannabis or smoked, because that place sounded nice

859
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: and cool. I don't know if it was crazy, but

860
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: that romantic setting that you described was the romantic and

861
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: personal to me. I loved it. So this is actually

862
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: a pretty special story because the two people that were

863
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: there with me are here right now. So this was

864
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: in March this year, and I was with Ashley in

865
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: the jungle in Hawaii on the Big on the Big Island,

866
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: on an off grid solar retreat, and we were at

867
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: this bonfire under the stars in a beautiful moon and

868
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: then my friend Fantusi, who's gonna be playing music after

869
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: for the party, he popped out and handed me some

870
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: land race Hawaiian sativa and we all shared it together

871
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: and it was I love sativa's and it was one

872
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: of the best highs, And because like what I love

873
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: about sativas is you can just keep smoking them all

874
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: night and you just keep getting higher and higher and

875
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: higher and like energize, you know, versus indicuff I would

876
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: have kept smoking and smoking all night, I would be

877
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: like ready to pass out. So it was just majestic

878
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: for every reason. In the jungle, beautiful plants all over

879
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: the place. Five. I mean, I'm so happy they're even

880
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: here to hear that answer from you too, because how

881
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: many times would you be able to even express that.

882
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: That is such a magical moment. Yes, thank you to

883
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Fantuzi for sharing some of the best we'd I've ever

884
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: smoked with. Yeah. Question number four the high five? What

885
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: is your go to munchie after you get high. Okay, uh,

886
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna preface this with this is one of my

887
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: guilty secrets, and it does not happen every time. This

888
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: is the best ones. You're a great story it, alright.

889
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you guys in on my secret

890
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna want to try it. So if

891
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: you go to Taco Bell and you order a Doritos

892
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: Locos taco, you gotta get it supreme because that has

893
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: the lettuce, tomatoes and sour cream in it. Then you

894
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: ask them to add the hot nacho cheese in the middle,

895
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: and burger you take that, put some fire sauce over it,

896
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: and then you eat as many as you possibly can

897
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: until you have to pray for forgiveness. That taco sounds fantastic.

898
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: It does. It's one of the best. I wouldn't really

899
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: want to go try one of those days right now.

900
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Those tacos we're I was gonna say, the only thing

901
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: that beats it is everything that chef Matt cooks. That

902
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: boy's a beast and Chef Mca probably whipped that up.

903
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: And to be a little more player than that, like

904
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: I can wit a taco up like that. Oh man,

905
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: that sounds wonderful question number five with the High five

906
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: with Jack Whipple, your answers have been fantastic, brother, real

907
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: entertaining than you. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone

908
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: dead or alive, who would it be? Kens who? Um

909
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: So ken Kezi was the leader of the Mary Pranksters,

910
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: and he also wrote the book One Who Flew Over

911
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: the Cuckoo's Nest And in my opinion, he was one

912
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: of the most special psychoonots that's ever lived because he's

913
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: the one who started all of the acid tests in

914
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: San Francisco back in the sixties. Um So, I didn't

915
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, And one of so the reason I

916
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: named our genetics company psycho Not is because I've been

917
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: a psychoon ever since I found Psychedelics. And one of

918
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: our projects is we're teaming up with in Q. You

919
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: and n Q is gonna make custom poetry telling the

920
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: stories of all the greatest psycho konauts in order to

921
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: honor them and praise them for what their real work

922
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: has done, not the kookiness that they get fucking looked

923
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: at in the propaganda that goes against him. Yep, so

924
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: ken Kizi, We're gonna be doing custom poetry to honor

925
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: his life, and I would have. I would It would

926
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: be the biggest dream come true ever to have Ken

927
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Kizi magically appear right next to us and finish well,

928
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: you know what, at the Burning Trees Festival. We might

929
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: be able to pull that off for you guys can

930
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: imagine um. And it's just so deep because he's the

931
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: one that wrote the book One Flew Over the Cuckoo's

932
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Nest yep. And then they made the movie with Jack

933
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: Nicholson after that. Dude, that was one of the craziest

934
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: movies ever. And if you've never seen it, folks, and

935
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: you're young and you've never watched that movie, it's still

936
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: worthy of going to watch. It's one of the classics,

937
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: and it takes you on a psychedelic trip of seeing

938
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: where the psychedelics people go to in the house. And

939
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: it's just, dude, that whole thing affects my whole world

940
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: in life, like I felt when my mom was passing away.

941
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: I put it on the street, keep talking about about

942
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: it right here, and turn off all the life. When

943
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I tell stories about my family when my mom was

944
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: passing and when I share the story, I always say,

945
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: when I share my story. I wanted a one flew

946
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: over the Cuckoo's Nest. That's part of my dialogue that

947
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I share as my mom passed. And if you watch

948
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: the movie, you know what I mean without me going

949
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: into details. So I that's what I share with folks

950
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: who understand that that logic, and if you don't understand it, folks,

951
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: go watch the movie and then you'll hear a deeper

952
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: and understand something. When I go to you that That's

953
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: why I was like, I felt thanks that. So as

954
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: you say that that, dude, I get like that movie

955
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: was big to me. Dog, I used that it will

956
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: never leave my mind because I used that movie in

957
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: reference to my mother. You know what I'm saying. I'm

958
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. Thank you for being you know.

959
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: But but my point is that's a deep one for

960
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: you and it resonates with me, which is crazy that

961
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: you say that. And that's a part of my life too. Yeah,

962
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're all connected back to that, you know. So, Jack,

963
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: is there anything we forgot before we let you get

964
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: on out of here that you want to mention that? Yeah?

965
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: I would love to just mention one thing. Um. You know,

966
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: you guys have been so nice honoring the work that

967
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: I've done. But I really just wanted to shout out

968
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: my team. I'm gonna get a little put your micah man,

969
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: they want to hear it. They're all here right now.

970
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: So so Mo and Fish are running our spot and

971
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: you guys, everybody, everybody come up. Everybody walked behind him?

972
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: Please come on, Mo, who is this? Go ahead? Talk

973
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: about this? He walked behind how your brother? So that

974
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: was one of my partners on Whipple Effect. What is it? Lindsay?

975
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: Pleasure me you um? And then this is Lindsay. She's

976
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: our executive assistant. So thanks for me and here um.

977
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: And then Ashley, if you could come up here please,

978
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: She's like, don't you forget because like, don't you forgive me?

979
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: He would never. So Ashley's my beautiful girlfriend and she

980
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: runs all of the social media and marketing for our

981
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: company and is actually who connected with Jessica to set

982
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: this all up. You did a great job, you already know. Yeah.

983
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: And then Andy and Text, if you guys could come

984
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: up here, come on up, man, let's go up. Andy's

985
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: a man and what up? Man? How you doing? Man?

986
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: So Andy and Text made the trip out from Phoenix Yeah,

987
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: let's go. Uh and then shout out to Ronnie he

988
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: stayed in Phoenix because someone had to run. Yeah. Um.

989
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: And then if I wanted to just thank everyone else,

990
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of our team members. Um, everybody come

991
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: over here now, because as everybody walks over, every and

992
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: actually everybody all our teams did everybody come on because

993
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: right now, you guys, we're gonna sing Happy birthday to

994
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: this man who's earth that it's his birthday. So on

995
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the count of three, I want everybody around him as

996
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: we sing Happy birthday to Jack Whipple. One, two three,

997
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to Happy birthday. Yeah,

998
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Yeah. That's the Whipple Effect, folks, right there,

999
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Jack Whipple WI, the founder, CEO Whipple Effect and Psycho

1000
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: nut Genetics. That is his company. This is his man,

1001
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: this is his team. If you don't know what he's about,

1002
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: look at the team, folks. This is what the man represents.

1003
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: If you can't see this, please go to our YouTube

1004
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: and see this. Because what you have next to you,

1005
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: Jack is a beautiful family and a beautiful group of

1006
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: eclectic different individuals that are building a dream for you

1007
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: and for them and for them. So congratulations to all

1008
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: of you guys on all your success. Thank you so much.

1009
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: So anything else fine, sir um. So we're actually gonna

1010
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: drop our new athletic weare clothing line at the Burning

1011
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: Trees Festival. It's it's called Psycho grow Ware. So we're

1012
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: making like really amazing comfortable clothes to wearing the garden.

1013
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: So uh I love it. Yeah, y'all are y'all are

1014
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: gonna have some of the first samples and then go

1015
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: for everyone in the audience come find us at Burning Trees.

1016
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Yeah it is. Well, there it is, guys.

1017
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. And remember this, if

1018
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: no one else loves you, we do. Thank you for

1019
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I

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