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Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt is running for mayor. Fucking good for him.

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Speaker 1: Trump is the president, need I say more? Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 1: Spencer's passionate. He lost his home in the fire. He

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Speaker 1: it's the fucking difference. He wants it, he's passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think he does want it. He just

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Speaker 1: also like attention, and that's okay. Spencer's been completely straightforward

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Speaker 1: for ratings. That works now, Telling the truth in that

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Speaker 1: for yours, Spencer. I can't wait for Heidi to be

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Speaker 1: the first lady. Most want back to the After, want

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