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Signed up with promo code Colin so 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: they know we sent you. What is going on everybody, 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: John Middlekopp Three and Out Podcast Mailbag Edition because we 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: do a little weekend mail bag. It's very easy to 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: get in. You just go to my Instagram account, which 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: is my name, which I've always spelled correctly. But when 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: I was employed at President State, when I was employed 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles Radio, I didn't have my own office, 18 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: but no one could ever spell my last name. Right 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: two f's two F. John Middcoff at John Middlecoff is 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the Instagram slide right in kept my chip on my shoulder. 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: You know it's just my name, but no one can 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: get it right except myself. In fairness, it's not exactly 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: like my last name Smith, but at John Middlecoff two 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: f's slide up into those d m s and get 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: your question answered here on this little thing we call 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a podcast. Let's start with Jake, what are your thoughts 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: on the reports that Trey is underwhelming the Niners coaching staff? 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: To me, I don't understand why anyone would leave that, 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: seeing how Trey Bus, the entire man management and coaching 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: staff would probably be gone. Like, yeah, he's gonna take 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to develop, but you bet 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: on he could be not what he was coming out 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: of North Dakota State. Yeah, the Niners aren't a leaky 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: organization now they've moved on from a lot of coaches 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: this year. So I do think, uh, loose lips sink 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: ships is the old old statement. I guess it's still 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: a statement, but it doesn't feel like the kids, you know, 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the streamers are using that term. It feels like something 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: my parents said that then their children said, which is me. 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know if my children will say that. 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: I just think that probably some people want to make 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Kyle look bad. I don't know. He's a major project, 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that, But I also don't like. 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't When I first started doing podcasts, didn't make 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: any money A couple years later, Booming things take time. 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge live in the past guy. I'm 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: a big move forward guy. And I went to enough 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: practice last year to see the physical attributes. The character 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: stuff coming out of college was elite intelligence work ethic. 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: So if he has all that, now it's time to 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: put it to uh, you know, put it to the field. 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: This O T A S is his time to rock 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: and roll. This is his team now, not setting stone 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: because Jimmy Garoppolo is still on the on the roster, 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: but Jimmy can't throw, and Jimmy won't even be around, 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: so he has the entire spring to make Kyle feel 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: very good about him. That's all that matters. How he 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: looked in November is irrelevant now in May, in two 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two, it's about this upcoming season. Now, if 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: he's struggling in training camp, then we got a problem. 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: But to me, I'll be out at some of these 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: practices over the next month. I'll make my own determinations. Now, 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. I 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: thought he looked awesome last training camp. Why. He's big, 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's got a huge arm. He's gonna be 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: the type guy that looks good in practice. Honestly, I 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: bet people say he looks good in this practice people 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: like me. The problem will be is I don't know 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan personally. I know a lot of people. With 70 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: the Niners, Kyle has been the my white whale. We 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do it quite hit it off. Literally. 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked one time at training camp, 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: but with COVID and stuff, I've never really been around him. 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: But I'm not a training camp. I talked to him 75 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: one time at the Combine when he said to come 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and then the whole lockdown happened like 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: a week later, and you know, there went those plants. 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: So I have no clue what he truly thinks. Besides, 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I follow his team extremely closely. I follow him really 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: closely because I watched all his press conferences and I 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: have a pretty good vibe on him. I feel without 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: knowing the guy and like having the ability to ask 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: him questions, uh, personally, like on a text message. But 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: regardless of what he thought like, Trey has a great 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: opportunity right now to take the position by the balls 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: and make this his team in the next forty five 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: days on the field, doing what Kyle wants, understanding, reads, 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: audible checks, and in full control. To me, that's all 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: that matters. What happened last year? Who cares? Last year? 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: The stock market was up right now it's way down. 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, things change the football business, you name it. Relationships. 92 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes a happy couple last year, divorce this year. Sometimes 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the opposite. Some single last year you're in a serious 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: relationship this year, players same thing. The guy used to 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: be good, now he stinks. Guy used to not be 96 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: that good is now a starter. So and you know me, 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: I won't if he struggles, I'll call a spade a spade. 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: But I don't really care what happened at practice last year. 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: Who's the backup? But I do now if he's gonna 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: be the starter. Hey, John, fairly new listener to the pod. 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: But I'm loving the content and you crushing the game. 102 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Tommy. I recently saw a way too early 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: mock draft in twenty three that had Texas that had 104 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: the Texans taking Bryce Young from Alabama and the Lions 105 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: taking c. J. Straut from Ohio State. As a Lions fan, 106 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't love the pick, but it did get me 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: thinking historically these schools haven't produced very many good NFL quarterbacks. 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: My question is which school are you less likely to 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: take a quarterback from and why the schools are relevant 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: to me? Complain letally irrelevant Like North Dakota States had 111 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: two guys drafted in the top three the last seven years, 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: right and forever. You know, most schools have never had 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: two guys drafted that high. To me, it's the player, 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: whether guys struggled coming out Ohio State Obama. Well, if 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Bryce Young is the best quarterback to ever come out 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: of Alabama, then I don't care what Mac Jones was 117 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: or TWA was right or what you know? R I P. 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, you know what what his career was or 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: any of these former guys. Right? Uh? With Justin Fields, 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: I think Justin Field is gonna be a good player 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: if his team doesn't screw him. But I I just 122 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: if the player is good, Like who cares, it doesn't matter, 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: right I mean, Matt Leiner had nothing to do with 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Sam Donald just will have nothing to do with Caleb Williams. Now, 125 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: whether they succeed or fail, that's on them or their team, 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: not on the out ultimately the program. So I I 127 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: put I come from the school and what I learned 128 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL previous. Now it helps when good players 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: at certain positions because of a position coach, But every 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: player is their own entity, Every player is their own story, 131 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: every player is their own talent, right and work ethic 132 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and ability. So I I don't put any stock into 133 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the previous stuff, to be honest with you, very very 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: little at quarterback. The Alpine is is nuts. You gotta 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: watch it. Huge fan started listening to this past year. 136 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Wish you had a pot every day. Put out a 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: lot of pods right now. We go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, weekend. 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: We do a lot of content here on the content, 139 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: on the on the volume. I would love your opinion 140 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: on Kyle Shanahan vers Sean McVeigh rivalry, not as much 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: of a rivalry, but which coach is better. I think 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: it's complicated because McVeigh obviously has had the better record 143 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and accolades, but Shanahan obviously owns McVeigh. I'd love to 144 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: hear thoughts on the podcast. I think Kyle is a 145 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: more dynamic offensive coordinator. Uh, maybe Sean McVeigh is better 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: at quote unquote rallying the troops. I guess. Uh. I mean, 147 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: I've been to several Rams Niner games. I've never seen 148 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: the Niners loose. Now, I didn't go to the NFC 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Championship game, which of all the games they played, was 150 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: by far the most important, not even close, right, I 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: mean it was they played in the NFC Championship game 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: and the Rams one, so there is no disputing. Like 153 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Kyle's been to a Super Bowl, Shawn has been to two, 154 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: and now Sean's won one. But like Kyle's proven, like 155 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: he's got four playoff wins this year, he had two 156 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: on the road. I mean the Packer game, he was 157 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: a seven point underdog Cowboys. He was an underdog even 158 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: though the probably shouldn't have been. So I I think 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: they're very similar, even though I think they're clearly kind 160 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: of different people. Um, I wouldn't. I don't know either personally, 161 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to get like two in 162 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: depth of like what the guy like I can tell 163 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: you a lot about Todd Bowls than a lot of 164 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: time around Matt Naggy, Andy Reid. Right, the guys when 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time around the coach, when 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: you watch him from my vantage point and you don't 167 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: know the guy or Sean McDermott, you know I could 168 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: give you a legitimate opinion on these guys. It's hard 169 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: for me to do because I haven't spent that much 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: time around them. Besides, like watching a team practice or 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: for Sean McVeigh watching him, you know podcast with Shreeker 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: and his team play. I think they're both fucking awesome. 173 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: I think if you ask the older coaches, they think 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: they're both studs. There are the two young stars in 175 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the league. Now. I think you know, I say this 176 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: about Sean McVeigh. You won a lot of games with 177 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, so now this year he wont Super Bowl. 178 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. Think about this. Matt Stafford became available. The 179 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: two teams that were the most aggressive to get him, 180 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan Sean McVeigh. Besides whether personalities are different, I 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: think they're pretty similar. Now. The one thing I would 182 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: say that differs between Kyle and Sean philosophically, Kyle loves 183 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: running the ball. If Kyle could, I think every game 184 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: he would slam it down your throat forty times. I 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: think Sean likes throwing it more. Not the cow doesn't 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: like throwing it. But I think Sean would be closer 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: to like Andy Reid that way. Like deep down, that's 188 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of how he wants to play, which obviously works. 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: You know, you just need to get the right quarterback. 190 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: I think Kyle deep down, despite being a forty one 191 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: year old guy, wants to play like it's and shove 192 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: it down your throat. Now. I mean sometimes, you know, 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: it depends how good. If Trey Lance gets good, you 194 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: gotta throw the ball. But there's an element of that 195 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: which I like, you know, I mean, Harbaugh had it. 196 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: It creates a tough team. It's why the Niners have 197 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: been tougher than the Ramps. I think they've been just 198 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: more physical on offense and defense because that's kind of 199 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: than been their identity. Doesn't mean they've been better, but 200 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a really, really tough question. I think 201 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, two of the best that 202 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: are definitely probably the two best coaches under fifty because 203 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I I came around on the floor. But 204 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: he lost to Kyle Shanahan at home at home at 205 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: lambeau Field as the number one seed to Jimmy Garoppolo. 206 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: He lost that game with Aaron Rodgers in the quarterback. 207 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: So I like la Flour. I think he's a solid coach, 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: but I no longer consider him in that category. He 209 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: lost at home with Aaron Rodgers back to back mbps 210 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolotners is not scoring offensive you and you're 211 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. They did not score an offense and 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: you lost. Come on, man, that loss is bad. That 213 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: loss was That loss was worse than the Cowboys because 214 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: turns out the Cowboys a little bit of Frods. And 215 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I know, I and listen, I'm guilty. I kind of 216 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: annointed them last year during the season. I was wrong. 217 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: I thought the Packers were the best team until they 218 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: played the Niners and didn't score offensive touchdown. Can't happen? 219 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: I guess they did score one offensive touchdown. The Nighters 220 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: didn't scored offense touchdown. You can't you lose the game. 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Thirteen to ten was the final score. Fourteen to ten. 222 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean ten points, Come on, can't happen? Uh, big, 223 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: big fan of the show. Bay Area kid, appreciate the 224 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: forty and two short references. When I was in college 225 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: at cal Pauly, Too Short actually played a concert for 226 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: my fraternity because of doing the fraternity. You know, I 227 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: think it was from the Bay Area knewsome people. Too 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Short came down. It was pretty sweet. Remember meeting him 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: in the back very briefly. Um, I was honored to 230 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: be in his presence. Question related to Deebo situation. Everyone 231 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: is quick to relate Deebo to Kyler Murray in the 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: sense that the supposed motivation comes down to contract and money. 233 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Is it possible that it's more a reflection of Debo's 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: opinion on Trey Lance. If I'm Deboo, if I'm in 235 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: Deebo shoes, I would not love the idea long term 236 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: of a commitment to a team with a quarterback I 237 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: don't believe can take me all the way in the 238 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: prime of my career. Do you think we might be 239 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: reading too much into the money side of the situation, Well, Deebo, 240 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: I hate these stories, but god, they're just part of 241 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: I guess our world now refollowed the forty niners on Instagra. Am, 242 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's got going anywhere. I don't know. 243 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, here, here's my take on debo, Debo, 244 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: tell us what what your deal is? I'm tired of guessing. 245 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: We can say it's the Trey Lance. We can say 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: it's the taxes. We can say it's Santa Clara sucks. 247 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: We can say I don't even know, we can say whatever. 248 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: We're all kind of guessing. Have Deebo answered the question? 249 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Can debo? And who knows the next time he's gonna 250 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: show up Niners whenever they sign him off the talk. 251 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: But can we just get his opinion on this? Because 252 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: right now we're all taking guesses. A. J. Brown pretty 253 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: clear wanted more money. Titans wouldn't give him money. Very 254 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: black and White Kyler, very black and white, wants money. 255 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: They're not willing to pay him. Deebo, you know who knows? 256 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Does he not want to play running back? Does he 257 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: not want to live around people in Santa Clara? Does 258 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: he not like paying? You know, I don't know. We 259 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: all can take a lot of guesses, but until it 260 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: comes from his mouth, that's what we're all doing. We're 261 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: all just guessing. I met up with my college buddies 262 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: over the weekend in Nashville for a weekend of golf. 263 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Had a blast. There was a lot of beer consumed. 264 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight. After this weekend, it's obvious I'm not 265 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: in much twenties. Woke up Monday morning and could barely move. 266 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: It gave me a whole new appreciation for Tiger after 267 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: all their injuries he had over the years. Being in 268 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: his late forties and still playing golf at high level, 269 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: that dude has to be spent after eighteen, let alone 270 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: seventy two holes. Not really a question, more of an observation. 271 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't drink. Quality place probably helps. But I hear you. 272 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: It looks like next year our annual golf location will 273 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: be Arizona. I know you're familiar there. Do you have 274 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: any course recommendations? Also, if you can meet us for 275 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: some golf, we will cover your golf and your alcohol 276 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: well ship robbing. Now we might be talking. I would 277 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: say TPC Scottsdale, just to play it so then when 278 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: you watch it every year, the waste management you have 279 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: experienced the course, I would say the course tad overrated, 280 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: but it's still pretty cool, so to me that would 281 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: be a lock. I would say Week A PAL is 282 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the sleeper, and it's not even really a sleeper, but 283 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: it's an unreal course. Got thirty six holes. I would 284 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: say True North. I would think about playing True North. 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: I would say TPC Scottsdale is a must though, just 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: to say you play. And in gray Hawk they have 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: the National Championship there also at thirty six holes. Pretty sweet, 288 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: so I would recommend gray Hawk, TPC, Week A PAL 289 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: and True would be from my experience, those are the 290 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: courses that I've played. I have not played them all, 291 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: so I'm probably missing some and I definitely am missing 292 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm missing a lot. I mean, it's the golf capital 293 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: of the world. Arizona for golf is like the SEC 294 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: for football players. You want to play golf, go there, play. 295 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: So I want to move there and after economic chaos 296 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: again not rooting for a recession, but don't really want 297 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: to pay a two million dollar house that was a 298 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: million dollars six months ago. A little weird to me. 299 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, that's my reservation, not you know, I don't 300 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: have an unlimited amount of funds and I don't want 301 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: to make a purchase that then is not you know again, 302 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: things are getting weird. Lost a lot of money like 303 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: all of us did in the stock market, but uh, 304 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully don't lose a lot more because it feels 305 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: like it's not gonna get better anytimes worse. But again, 306 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: I root for positivity. Not a recession guy, but when 307 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: you want to purchase real estate you kind of do. 308 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Root for recession is weird. You know, who knows what 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: if that ruined the podcast industry, So it's like I'm not, 310 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm I root for positivity. I root for economic success. 311 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Huge fan make collecting the city's trash twelve hours a 312 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: day way more enjoyable. Question for the pot you drive 313 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: or do you right on the side? You right on 314 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the side? Can you hear if you have your I 315 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: pad your air pods in? What are your thoughts of Seattle? 316 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: On the Seattle Draft? I thought they put the rebuild 317 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: on track with going tackle and pass rusher and avoiding 318 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that are definitely more projects than prospects. Agreed 319 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: in their situation, I would not have drafted a quarterback. 320 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: I'm in agreement there now. Charles Cross He's clearly a 321 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: pretty good prospect. Taking him at nine, get a legit tackle. 322 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: Duwayne Brown's old won't be on the team forever. They 323 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: took the running back who's a really, really good player. 324 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. Uh like that pick as well? Yeah, I 325 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: mean it's just we'll see that. I've liked some of 326 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: their picks over the years, and the guys haven't turned 327 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: out to be good. I liked Rashot Penny a lot 328 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: in college, and then when he first got to the NFL, 329 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: he was terrible. So here's the other issue. When your 330 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: quarterback plays terrible, and let's face it, Gino Smith and 331 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Drew Lock, their quarterback play is not going to be good. 332 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: The team usually looks bad. So like some of these 333 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: guys could be okay, But like Kenneth Walker, what are 334 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: you gonna do when you play Seattle? You're gonna put 335 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: nine guys in the box and two guys on DK 336 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: Metcalf and say beat me Drew or Gino and he 337 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: won't be able to. So more than likely they're gonna 338 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: look terrible. Watch three football games last year, but I 339 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: listened to every show Love your takes on football in life. 340 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: My question, why doesn't Burrow get any love? Whenever you 341 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: and Uncle Colin talk about the best young quarterbacks. It's 342 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: always Mahomes, Alan Herbert. I apologize, I leave Burrow out, 343 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I'm gonna start including him, Burrow, Mahomes, Alan Herbert, Lamar. 344 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: I'll just throw those guys in. Mahomes maybe number one 345 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: right now. Alan is a physical freak, but it's one 346 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: only one playoff game. Herbert is also a physical freak, 347 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: but he definitely shouldn't be mentioned before Burrow Chargers coach. 348 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: Maybe a clown. But Herbert didn't even make the playoffs 349 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: this year, but it wasn't his fault. He had a 350 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: historically awesome year. Their defense was terrible. They didn't make 351 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs because the defense and Brandon Staley and Brandon 352 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: sale is a defensive coordinator. Even Brandon Staley if he 353 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: was sitting here, which would be a little weird because 354 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I've talked a lot of shit about him, but I 355 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: would be I I have a legit conversation and Mayhill 356 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: maybe be cool. He was the one time I watched 357 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: him with Pat McAfee was very normal. You would say, 358 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: justin Herbert, and I think every coach in the NFL 359 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: and every player in the NFL would agree was awesome 360 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: last year, even in the game that they lost to 361 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Come on, man, that was that's on Brandon 362 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Staley in the defense, not justin Herbert. So I'm not 363 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: trying to I'm not a huge like defended guy just 364 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: because that's my take. Like everyone agrees Justin Herbert's awesome. 365 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Joe Burrow awesome. I need to 366 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: do a better job including Joe Burrow in that group 367 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: because he's in that group. So Joe, if you listen. One, 368 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: love to get you on the pod. Two big fan, 369 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: love your game. You're in the group because he is. 370 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, he legitimately is not really 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: question but more of an observation. The new pit quarterback 372 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: quarter uh. The new pit quarterback is former USC Keaton Slowis, 373 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: who was bench for Jackson Dark and then run out 374 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: of town by Riley and Caleb Williams. No wonder Addison 375 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: is trying to get out of pit. You think Addison 376 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: saw this and then the number USC was throwing at 377 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: him and was like, I gotta get out of there. 378 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: You know what's funny As I was thinking about this 379 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: the other day because I keep saying Jordan Addison, who 380 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: their quarterback is? I assume it's some random I count 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: at the pipe. It turns out it's actually Keetan Slovis, 382 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: who actually is not terrible. You know, it's like, who's 383 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: old mrs quarterback? Going to be? Well, they got Jackson Dart, 384 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: you know the quarterback movement around? It's how do you 385 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: keep up with this? You know, like all these guys 386 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: go all over the place. Most players are not c J. Stroud, 387 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, I mean Jackson Dart, I loved, loved, would 388 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: be strong. I'm intrigued by Jackson Dart. Well he's now 389 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: at USC, or excuse me, old miss who as USC's 390 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: old coach. But maybe Keith Slows actually is not bad? Now? 391 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Would I rather play with Caleb Williams and Keating Slovis? Yes. 392 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: Part of it is just you know, I I just 393 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: do not blame him at all for leaving the court. 394 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: He had an awesome quarterback. He doesn't know this guy 395 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and he knows Caleb Williams, and Caleb Williams is like, 396 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: come out to SC. It is so easy to transfer. 397 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I have a theory. I don't think we see many 398 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: offensive lineman transfer. Why because if you're a big three 399 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: o pound guy starting at a school, you don't want 400 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: to pack up your ship and move. It's too difficult. 401 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: You want to just block guys, eat food, and get 402 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: better and try to make the draft. Quarterbacks like a 403 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: little bit Lucy Goosey or saying with wide receivers, and 404 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think you're seeing many offensive lineman transfer. 405 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: When's the last time you're like this guard from Iowa 406 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: transferred to Clemson. The guard from Iowa, he's just he's content, 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: you know. It's just like I'm good. They feed me, 408 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: we practice, I got a girlfriend on the soccer team. 409 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Life's good. Quarterbacks, wide receivers, dbs. They're always looking for 410 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: the next best thing, you know. But these quarterbacks, man, 411 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: the transfer rate on these guys is outrageous. Guys are 412 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: moving and shaking go to all these schools. I don't 413 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: even blame Jordan Adison for like, I don't even know 414 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: who's coming in. I don't know who's gonna be my quarterback. 415 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I thought when when guy sat out two years ago, 416 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, my first reaction was like I don't 417 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: love it, and then like as time went on, I 418 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: don't blame Jamar Chase at all. Jamar Chase went from 419 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: playing with Joe Burrow the last commenters, I gotta give 420 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow some love winning the national championship. The guy 421 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: goes number one overall and then he's looking at the backup. 422 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not playing with these losers. He was 423 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: he he was smart, he was a forward thinker. He 424 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: wasn't living in the past. He was seeing the future. 425 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna these scrubs are gonna make me 426 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: go eleventh in the draft and said a fifth, I'm 427 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: not even playing. Everyone's like, this is risky. He's worked 428 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: out okay for him. I the right decision there. If 429 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, you were. Your entire career is 430 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: predicated on the play caller and the guy throwing you 431 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: the ball. If the play caller the guy throwing you 432 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: the ball is not good and you're nervous, go. If 433 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: you're an elite talent like this guy, like you're gonna 434 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: be a first round pick, I don't I don't blame 435 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: him for leaving one up. One bit. Lifelong Seahawks fan here, 436 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: listen to your latest pot about the draft grades, and 437 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: you were spot on in the two thousand twelve draft. 438 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: I remember ESPN giving the only F grade the year 439 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: to the Hawks. Looking back, I found this, uh looking 440 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: back in two thousand twelve drafts, blah blah blah. So 441 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: they got an F. ESPN gave him an F in 442 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: two twelve. You want to hear the players they picked 443 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: first round Bruce Irvant, second round, Bobby Wagner third round quarterback. 444 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of him, Russell Wilson, 445 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Robert Turban. Actually I kind of liked them. Jeremy Lane 446 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: in the sixth not a bad little long corner j r. 447 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: Sweezy starting offensive Oh yeah, he was a defensive tackle. 448 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: They moved offensive line. Yeah, it's I remember when Doug 449 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Peterson was hired from the Eagles. They gave the Eagles 450 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: an F for the higher So I'm with you the 451 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: grades real time, you know, we don't know. Listen, I 452 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: owned a stock Skills that had quarterly earnings that aren't 453 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: going great. Now they're transitioning that They're big thing. Isn't 454 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: like a year two years, We're gonna be big. And 455 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm betting on. Might be wrong. 456 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: We'll see, only time will tell. But like when a 457 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: company comes out with the quarterly earnings, you could have 458 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: like that's a downgrade, that's an upgrade. This stock is 459 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: gonna boom, This stock is gonna go based on tangible information. 460 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: But when I pick you, there is no tangible information 461 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: beside that guy is now on my team. I like 462 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs drafting Trent McDuffie. I think that guy is 463 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna be really good. But even Andy and Brev each 464 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: would say, there's no guarantee this guy is gonna be 465 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: some legitimate player based on our evaluation and the person 466 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: we think he is. But we've seen it a million times. 467 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I I despise draft grades because 468 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: if I'm giving you a draft grade, I'm just giving 469 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: you a grade based on whether I like the guy 470 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: or not. So if I thought you I thought Drake 471 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: London was a huge overdraft, I don't think you know. 472 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: I would give them like a C minus, right, But 473 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: some people loved him and Desmond Ritter and they give 474 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I've seen the Falcons get a minuses. But that's because 475 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: those people giving the grades like it. I started thinking 476 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: about all my teachers growing up. You know, unless it's 477 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: like a multiple choice test. But how can you give 478 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: me a grade on a paper? Like if I'm in 479 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: sixth grade and you give me a B on a 480 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: paper I write on like Saka Jowiah, it's just your opinion, 481 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: whether you think it's good or not. It's all subjective. 482 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: So now I think back when I used to get 483 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: in trouble when I got low grades. I wish I 484 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: could have looked at my dad and been like, that's 485 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: just a subjective opinion from miss Parker. We don't know 486 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: if she actually knows what she's talking about or not. 487 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: I think I wrote an A paper. She believed it 488 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: was a B minus. I'm calling bullshit now the s 489 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: A T. You get what you get, the wonder lick, 490 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you get what you get. But how can you give 491 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: me a grade on an English paper? How's that possible? 492 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: Right spelling test? Either spell the word right or wrong? 493 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: The draft? Like, yeah, eventually A J. Brown, deebos Ammual, 494 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, Bobby Wagner, whoever you know? Aaron Donald may 495 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: become studs right, Tyree Hill, Travis Kelsey, Josh Allen, Like 496 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: we know after a while that was a hell of 497 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: a pick. At the time, we have no clue absolutely none, 498 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: because if we did Deshaun Watson, Patrick Maomes never in 499 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: a million years would have gone after Mitchell Drabinsky. But 500 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: at the time it's like Mitchell Drabinsky Bears quarterback, haven't 501 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: had a Bear's quarterback in a long time, and then 502 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't the Bears quarterback. So you just never know. 503 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: But the draft is fun. Honestly, whether the draft is 504 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: so fun is because there's so much to talk about. 505 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: You can have an opinion on it all you can. 506 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: You can try to pump the brakes on it all. 507 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: You know. The future where we get to like Cold 508 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Strange is either gonna be good or he's not gonna 509 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: be good. But there's no he's gonna be Logan Mankins. 510 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: That feels like a stretch, but great name Cold Strange. Okay, 511 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: Audios made a piece. Be with you. Have a good weekend. 512 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: If it's Sunday, Happy Mother's Day. Thank your mother, give 513 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: her hug. If your wife is a mother of your children, 514 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: give her a kiss. If she's your baby mom and 515 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: you're not together, send her text and just say good 516 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: job raising her child. Unless she's not doing a good job, 517 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: then don't send her that. 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