WEBVTT - Dr. Amen Answers: Do We Have Adult ADHD?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bill and Juliana the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, you guys, this is the reason I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to have a podcast is to interview doctor Aimon. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding you right now. This was literally the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Bill, we need a podcast. Doctor Amen

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<v Speaker 2>is a psychiatrist. He's a brain health expert. He specializes

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<v Speaker 2>in all sorts of things including ADHD, anxiety, and depression.

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<v Speaker 2>And he literally, especially now that we're talking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>your phone will hear this and he will pop up

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<v Speaker 2>on your feed and give you the most incredible information

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<v Speaker 2>that you will share with your friends, share with your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And also it gives you a lot of insight into yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be like, wait a second, that's me that

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're not on Instagram. He's also written forty books. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can just search doctor Aimon and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>there's a book that will fit any need.

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<v Speaker 1>That you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is the pioneer of the specked brain imaging

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<v Speaker 2>for mental health. As Bill mentioned, Yeah, forty plus books,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys on brain optimization. So this is the man

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<v Speaker 2>with the answer a lot of questions, a lot of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of our questions are probably very similar

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<v Speaker 2>to all of yours out there. So let's welcome doctor Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor is so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so excited to talk about brain health and your brains.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Well we already so, so you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know listening. We already did scans Bill and I, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get into those in a second, because

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<v Speaker 2>we have no idea what the results of those scans are.

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<v Speaker 2>We did them at doctor Aman's clinic. He has clinics

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<v Speaker 2>all around the country. We did the one here in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very easy. We'll get into our process in

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are really interested in what these brain scans are and

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<v Speaker 2>how to get them done and what it's like getting

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<v Speaker 2>them done. So we'll talk about that. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get our results in a second. But Bill, you know

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Aman from back in the day and then you

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<v Speaker 2>met him years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I met doctor Aman, I guess eighteen years ago. Seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, Lisa Gibbons and I had a show that

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<v Speaker 3>was syndicated called America Now, and it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the segments we did and it was really fascinating, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was able to determine that I had a concussion

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<v Speaker 3>as a young child. Wow, just from the brain scan,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a concussion when I was five years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I decided I want to dunk a basketball

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a station wagon parked in the driveway

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<v Speaker 3>by the basketball hoop. So I climbed on the roof

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<v Speaker 3>of the station wagon, grabbed the basketball, ran off, hooked

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<v Speaker 3>my leg on the luggage rack, and landed on my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the hospital for two weeks as a

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<v Speaker 3>result of that at five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And you never even told him that, I don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>him no. Isn't that interesting? We wanted to narrow this

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<v Speaker 2>episode down. Do I have adult ADHD? Because we are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a lot of our children are being diagnosed with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a lot of people are seeing in their

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<v Speaker 2>adult years that wait a second, my kid has it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have too. I was just never diagnosed.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's dive into adult ADHD. What's the story there?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you feeling like you're seeing more and more people

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this and curious about this?

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, I'm also a child psychiatrist and I

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<v Speaker 5>trained in the middle nineteen eighties, and half the patient's

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<v Speaker 5>child pschiatricy have ADD of one.

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<v Speaker 4>Form or another.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you see enough of these kids, you realize

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<v Speaker 5>it's a genetic disorder. You get it from your mom

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<v Speaker 5>or dad. And if you can't see it in mom

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<v Speaker 5>or dad, well one you worry if they had a concussion,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's one of the things that will mimic ADD

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<v Speaker 5>or ADHD. It's just two acronyms for the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're an adult and you think you might

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<v Speaker 5>have it, are the five symptoms that needed really to

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<v Speaker 5>be part of your life ever since you were a child.

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<v Speaker 5>So ADD doesn't just show up when you're forty.

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<v Speaker 4>That could be perimenopause.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't show up when you're sixty that could have

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<v Speaker 5>been a car accident. It's something you have your whole life.

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<v Speaker 5>So short attention span attention deficit disorder attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually hate the term ADHD because half of the people

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<v Speaker 5>who have it are never hyperactive, especially females.

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<v Speaker 4>So short attention span but not for everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Short attention span for regular routine, everyday things, school work, paperwork, chores,

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<v Speaker 5>sort of the things that make life work. Distractability you

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<v Speaker 5>see too much, you hear too much, you sense too much,

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<v Speaker 5>you taste too much. It's like the world comes at

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<v Speaker 5>you too quickly. And as little kids, you like hated

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<v Speaker 5>socks or you hated tags.

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<v Speaker 4>In your shirt.

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<v Speaker 5>My first wife had add and right after we got married,

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<v Speaker 5>I walked into my closet and someone had cut the

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<v Speaker 5>tags out of all of my shirts. And I actually

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<v Speaker 5>felt violated. And I brought one of the shirts into

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<v Speaker 5>the little living room in our apartment. I said, do

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<v Speaker 5>you know what happened to my shirt? And she goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you had tags. I hate tags. Don't you hate tags?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, never felt a tag in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>So they get easily distracted, and their bodies are often

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<v Speaker 5>very sensitive. They often have to sleep with white noise

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<v Speaker 5>at night because their brain is just bouncing around and

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<v Speaker 5>they need something to sort of settle it down. They

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<v Speaker 5>have problems with organization, either time, actual physical time, or

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<v Speaker 5>their space. They organized by what I call the pile system,

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<v Speaker 5>pile here, pile there, pile pile everywhere, and just hard

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<v Speaker 5>for them to sort of focus and put things away.

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<v Speaker 5>They tend to procrastinate, like things don't really get done

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<v Speaker 5>until the last minute. They actually need stress in order

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<v Speaker 5>to accomplish things. My book Preventing Alzheimer's I wrote with

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<v Speaker 5>Rod Schenkel, who had ADD and every one of my

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<v Speaker 5>books I turned in early, like I hate being late.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was at his house at like eleven o'clock

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<v Speaker 5>at night, going, I need the chapter. And I looked

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<v Speaker 5>at his wife because she answered the dorm like, no

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<v Speaker 5>sex till I get the chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, you're getting the chapter.

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<v Speaker 5>And then him pulsivity that they say things that perhaps

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<v Speaker 5>they shouldn't say, or do things perhaps it's not in

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<v Speaker 5>their best interests. And they tend to interrupt in conversations

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<v Speaker 5>because it's like we'll forget and it can be stressful.

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<v Speaker 5>And so those five things short attention span, distractability, disorganization, procrastination,

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<v Speaker 5>some impulsivity, and it's the story of your life. People

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<v Speaker 5>have bipolar disorder because sometimes they get confused for each other.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they have periods where they're just fine, periods

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<v Speaker 5>where they're manic, periods where they're sad and add it's

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<v Speaker 5>like that most of.

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<v Speaker 3>The time, four out of the five boxes you check.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not to throw you under the bus, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>you can throw me under this No I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Well, first of all, those sound like our sun

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<v Speaker 2>oh for sure, to a t all five, sound like

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<v Speaker 2>our son Duke, who's thirteen, and so I thought, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>did maybe do get it from me? Because I did

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<v Speaker 2>hear it was genetic? And I'm most of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not all. I don't have any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the sensitivity. I don't need white noise. I definitely I

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<v Speaker 2>am a huge procrastinator, like I cannot do anything unless

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a fire under me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're late for everything you relate to our wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean if the way I grew up, if

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't five minutes early, you were late, and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was always early for things until I got married

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<v Speaker 3>and you were an hour and twenty minutes late for

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<v Speaker 3>the rehearsal at the church.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure? Yes? Sure, my god, that could be fake.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that's that's the honesty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, yeah, no, but he's right, I am

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<v Speaker 2>late to everything. No, I own it. I definitely own this.

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<v Speaker 2>I am and I you know what, honestly, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>this about myself because I think I'm good at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things, you know, like I take pride in

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<v Speaker 2>things that I'm good at, and I get like very

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<v Speaker 2>passionate about things.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a hard worker and I get the job done

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another. But it's like always like stressful, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like always something fire drill. Yeah, so that I

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<v Speaker 2>think for sure, But I'm not like I don't interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>conversations or feel like that's our sons.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're saying so generally. So those are the things. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is, you know, I'm fifty one, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that's another thing is like I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of women, especially struggle with is this an attention thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm getting as an adult or is it? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it like add or is it Harry menopause? Is at menopause?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, so it's like very confusing, right, doctor Amon,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's so it has to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a story of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you were a little girl, where did you

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<v Speaker 5>grow up?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in Italy in Naples, Italy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to America when I was about seven, and I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up on the East Coast in the DC, Maryland area.

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<v Speaker 5>And what did teachers say about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I was not a great student. And yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a very good student. So I wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 2>disruptive student all just academically, I was never interested in

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<v Speaker 2>anything I was studying, so therefore I got lousy grades.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I went to college and then went

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<v Speaker 2>on to graduate school and I studied journalism, I got

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<v Speaker 2>all a's.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you were interested, you did well, very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So very similar to my life too, a similar situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Because on your testing, you actually your focus was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually I think Bill's was more problematic than yours. And

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we got Bill to complete the total

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<v Speaker 5>I had.

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<v Speaker 3>A technical air on the on the last segment of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't let me log in.

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<v Speaker 2>So does Bill have adult ADHD?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm messed up?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Yeah, I think I feel like I was

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<v Speaker 2>laser focused on his. On the testing, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you actually scored really well.

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<v Speaker 4>Shall I show you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the things we did with you is this

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<v Speaker 5>study called total Brain. Yeah, and it's a forty minute

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<v Speaker 5>test of attention.

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<v Speaker 4>And what it says is you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Not depressed, you're not anxious, you're not abusing substances. There

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<v Speaker 5>is some issue with past trauma. Maybe we could chat

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<v Speaker 5>about and you're really good at reading faces. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>read positive or negative faces faster. That usually happens in

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<v Speaker 5>trauma under a fair amount of stress.

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<v Speaker 4>Not anxious. It could be better.

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<v Speaker 5>Memories great, you're focused, So this is often the add

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<v Speaker 5>it's great. Planning could be a little better. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 5>the lateness. The processing speed is Okay, you're flexible. This

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<v Speaker 5>gets people into so much trouble. Short term memories fine,

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<v Speaker 5>you're positive, but could be more so resilient and social.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I look at this, like, it's not screaming,

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<v Speaker 5>add to me. And then we did a test, a

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<v Speaker 5>specific test of attention called the Connors continuous performance test,

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<v Speaker 5>where every time you see a letter, you hit the spacebar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sad.

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<v Speaker 5>When you see the letter X, you inhibit it. You're like,

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<v Speaker 5>don't hit the space bar. And it's fourteen minutes and

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<v Speaker 5>it's fairly boring, but you did phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So SPECK basically tells you three things good activity, too little,

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<v Speaker 5>or too much, And here's a super healthy brain. The

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<v Speaker 5>four images on the left we're looking at the outside surface.

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<v Speaker 4>Images. On the right, we're looking at the most active

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<v Speaker 4>parts of the brain.

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<v Speaker 5>Blue is average, red is the top fifteen percent, White

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<v Speaker 5>is the top eight percent, and it should be here

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<v Speaker 5>in the back. When we look at your brain, do

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<v Speaker 5>you actually have a stunningly beautiful brain. And that's not

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<v Speaker 5>a line, but it actually looks really healthy. You're not

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<v Speaker 5>getting Alzheimer's disease. It's not a classic add brain, which

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<v Speaker 5>I'll show you in a little bit. Your emotional brain's busy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I had said your mood could be better.

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<v Speaker 4>This one of the mood.

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<v Speaker 5>Centers here, and I'm like, I think we.

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<v Speaker 4>Calm this down.

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<v Speaker 5>You're going to be more organized and perhaps even more

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<v Speaker 5>on time. I make something called Happy Saffron. It's made

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<v Speaker 5>with Saffron zinc and Kirkcumins, and Saffron has thirty five

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<v Speaker 5>randomized controlled trials showing it's equally effective to medications for mood.

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<v Speaker 5>And there are five studies showing it helps memory and

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<v Speaker 5>five studies showing it helps ADEDD.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm like.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, three capsules a day, that would be the first

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<v Speaker 5>thing I think we should try. But what I want

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<v Speaker 5>you to hear from me is you have a beautiful brain,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think I can balance it a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>better and that's going to help your li life. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a terribly add bray. Okay, I've seen I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, fifty thousand of these, and if I was you,

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<v Speaker 5>I would celebrate. And that's what I always say, is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, getting a scam is only good news because

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<v Speaker 5>if it's great, we celebrate. Yeah, and if it's not,

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<v Speaker 5>we rehabilitate.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, let's talk about Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, this is not going to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just as before we go on the bell?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared he always gives the good news first.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, can I just because I just want this

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<v Speaker 2>to be fresh. So, doctor Iman, can I ask you

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<v Speaker 2>a question? Do you think as you were giving me

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<v Speaker 2>my results? I think I had like a little epiphany

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<v Speaker 2>and I definitely want to get the afron zach Effron pills,

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<v Speaker 2>zach Saffron.

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<v Speaker 1>Pills, Saffron. I'm just kidding, O.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know what saffron is. Okay, I definitely want

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<v Speaker 2>to get the saffron capsules you're talking about. But while

0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you were giving me the results, I actually just thought

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<v Speaker 2>of something. Could it be? Could it be? Could I

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<v Speaker 2>be feeling this way because I'm taking on so much

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<v Speaker 2>right now in my life. So my whole life, I

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<v Speaker 2>had like a very specific job, granted many jobs within

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<v Speaker 2>one job, but it was like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I was on this train on the track,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like I always kind of knew what

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing day and day out, even though balls

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<v Speaker 2>were being fed all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like a TV structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was TV host forever at E and like

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<v Speaker 2>I would do the Red Card, but I would do

0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.800
<v Speaker 2>fashion plas. But it was like always like I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what I was doing. Now, it's like I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm as busy, if not busier, than I was before,

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<v Speaker 2>but so much of what I'm doing now is like

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<v Speaker 2>real passion projects that are like kind of like life saving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing a lot with rescue animals and just like

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<v Speaker 2>very like high stakes things. And I think that sometimes,

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bill will say like did you remember to

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<v Speaker 2>do this? Did you remember? I'm like no, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's like, oh my god, do I have ADHD.

0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 2>But maybe it's because this whole like I have all

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<v Speaker 2>these like very high stakes passion projects that have now

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<v Speaker 2>entered my life that I maybe am just like putting

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<v Speaker 2>all the day to day stuff on the back burner

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't focus on that stuff. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 5>And we are in a world that makes all of

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<v Speaker 5>us add from our phones, from social media. And one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things I teach all my patients is an

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<v Speaker 5>exercise called the one page Miracle. On one piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 5>write down what do you want? Relationships, work, money, physical, emotional,

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<v Speaker 5>spiritual health, what do I want? And then whenever you're

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<v Speaker 5>about to say yes to something, go.

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<v Speaker 4>Does it fit?

0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.480
<v Speaker 5>And whenever someone asks you to do something, I always

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<v Speaker 5>want you to go.

0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I have to think about it. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>My ADD patients they impulsively say yes and they take

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<v Speaker 5>on too much and then they're chronically stressed. So I

0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 5>always want you to know what you want relationships, work, money, physical, emotional,

0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:38.240
<v Speaker 5>spiritual hell, and then just go, well does it fit?

0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.280
<v Speaker 4>And if it fits, of course say yes.

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<v Speaker 5>But when it doesn't, it's okay to say, oh I

0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.400
<v Speaker 5>can't do that, thank you. So, especially for my ADD patients,

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't practice in the mirror. I have to think

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<v Speaker 5>about it just so they stop taking on more than

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<v Speaker 5>they can. And at fifty one, I think it's really

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<v Speaker 5>important to have your hormones checked. And I'm very happy

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<v Speaker 5>with doctor McCarey at the FDA who came out and

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<v Speaker 5>said they lied to us about female hormone replacement, that

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 5>it's essential. You know, the reason your hormones drop with age,

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.360
<v Speaker 5>it's the planet's way of eliminating you. And I don't

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.639
<v Speaker 5>know about you, but I'm sort of not okay with

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 5>being eliminated, and so I want my hormones to be

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<v Speaker 5>healthy forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel the same about testosterone and men?

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 5>I do, okay, good, but you have to be careful

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.880
<v Speaker 5>because some men think of you know, a little is good,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot is better, and if you go over like

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<v Speaker 5>a thousand, your libido goes up and your empathy goes down,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a prescription to lose half your net worth

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<v Speaker 5>in being visiting your children on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good, right, No, no, no, my testosterone was a little low.

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll say it. I just had to check.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like I think it was sub three hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, that's not good for you.

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 5>I make something also called brain Team Max to help

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 5>support testosterone.

0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's at a level.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to talk to, you know, maybe one of

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:31.679
<v Speaker 5>our integrative doctors and get it to a healthy level,

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 5>because it helps you with energy, it helps you with

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 5>muscle tone, it helps you with memory, it helps you

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<v Speaker 5>with mood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get fatigued during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I got to I've got to address

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<v Speaker 3>this one last thing regarding Julian and we'll move on

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 3>the Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>What you spend a lot of time on social media?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I be honest with you, It's part of my

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<v Speaker 2>job what I'm doing right now with my life, like

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the dogs that I'm rescuing, our Los Angeles dogs. We

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 2>live in Chicago, so I'm constantly looking at a million

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 2>videos at all that.

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.199
<v Speaker 3>It's healthy at night. She'll stay up till one in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning watching these.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 5>No, it's after videos crying, and it will make you

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<v Speaker 5>more aded.

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 4>You just and I understand. I hear what you're.

0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 5>Saying that you do it for work, but I think

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't limit.

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<v Speaker 4>It, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>We just saw what happened in Los Angeles, right that

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<v Speaker 5>both Meta and YouTube got whacked for six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's harmful and more harmful for children, for sure,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's not great for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to the bad news.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, it's just news, right, it's all good news. Yes,

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 5>if it's great, we'll celebrate, and if it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll rehabilitate.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had showed you healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now I have.

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<v Speaker 5>The one we did from twenty eleven here on the left,

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<v Speaker 5>and you see this hole. That's why I knew you

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 5>had a concussion because the back part of your brain

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 5>it got whapped. And I probably said, then, I wonder

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 5>if you have add You can see these holes here,

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 5>So I probably said that, I mean, I don't remember

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 5>we see them here. So this is the one that

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 5>we just did. And your exciple lobes are better here,

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 5>but your temporal lobes here, and some of that could

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<v Speaker 5>just be aging because they're fifteen years apart.

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 4>But this could be better.

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:58.920
<v Speaker 5>And I get really excited about making brains better. So

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<v Speaker 5>for you, I would I did the big NFL study

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<v Speaker 5>when the NFL was sort of lying about traumatic brain

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 5>injury and football, and I developed a multiple vitamin Omega

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.199
<v Speaker 5>three fatty acid and a brain boost that works in

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<v Speaker 5>six different ways and it helped eighty percent of our players.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would think about that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>On a scale of one to ten, how bad is

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it ten being horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil always likes the numbers like he's like a second four.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, so if Juliana is like a one to two,

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's really beautiful.

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you yours.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 5>It can be better. And you know, as we get older,

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 5>I hate this. I'm going to be seventy two in

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of months.

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 4>It's the gravity of age.

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 5>It's sort of like as our skin falls off our

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 5>face as we age, that same process happens in the brain.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 5>But it doesn't have to. And that's what I get

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 5>excited about.

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 4>When I back in twenty eleven and I don't know

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 4>what was going.

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 5>On in your life, then your emotional brain is really cooking.

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 4>This almost looks like past trauma to me, and.

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 5>It's sort of settled. So I like that. So this

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 5>scan is healthier than the one before. This one just

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 5>looks like aging, but we can reverse it.

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 4>And then, you know, I just.

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Asked the questions about add and the X test sort

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<v Speaker 5>of suggested that.

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<v Speaker 4>Might be a possibility.

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 5>And given that you didn't take total brain, even though

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 5>I wanted you to, that just makes me suspicious.

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I literally couldn't log on like it wouldn't It

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<v Speaker 1>would not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me, wait, suspicious about what?

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>But I was afraid to take it.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be better, so I would have that. If

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 5>it's me, I'm like excited. I'm like all right, So here,

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 5>I am now highly functional, doing really great work.

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, what would my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Be like four months from now, a year from now,

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<v Speaker 5>ten years from now if I had ten percent better

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 5>brain activity?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I a higher candidate for Alzheimer's or dementia with this?

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 5>It's not that pattern, okay, But you're a higher candidate

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 5>for things like subjective memory loss or mild cognitive impairment.

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 4>And you just don't want that.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't want that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You're also very did anything? So do you see you

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the stress things. So in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think twenty eleven was when we were

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to have a kid. When Duke was born in

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I was happier then than I am today in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well it depends what month. But I was diagnosed

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 2>with cancer in twenty eleven.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>So maybe you were stressed caring on that.

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>And then also we were trying to have a baby

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:24.479
<v Speaker 2>and we were in the thick of it and it

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was like so hard and we were getting bad news constantly.

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's what appeared in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I sort of as you bring that up,

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 5>I remember us talking about that and it was an

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 5>extremely stressful time.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that could have been it, for sure.

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>You were stressed out. I remember that, And so maybe

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. And yeah, I mean, and then

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>what about the ex test with Bill? What is that show?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Aman? The one where you had to.

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<v Speaker 5>Get had some issues with attention. It wasn't flat out terrible,

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<v Speaker 5>but it could have been better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, that's interesting. So huh honey, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>take that.

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<v Speaker 1>We do a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm glad you did this. No, I and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's you know, life could be better, for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>you know from a cognitive standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I'd be excited because you're already excited.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, there's it, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever been in a hyperbaric chamber?

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<v Speaker 3>I have once, right, a couple of times when I

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<v Speaker 3>had a rotator cuff surgery and part of my recovery

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<v Speaker 3>was I would go in the hyperbaric a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would find a place near you, and I

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<v Speaker 5>would literally go twenty to forty times. Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>I go a couple of times a week just because

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<v Speaker 5>I want to keep the best blood flow possible to

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<v Speaker 5>my brain. And you know, whatever's good for your heart

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<v Speaker 5>is good for your brain is actually good for sexual

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<v Speaker 5>functioning because it's all related.

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<v Speaker 4>To blood flow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And how whe do you go for an hour

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<v Speaker 3>at a time? Okay, right, I'm going to start that and.

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<v Speaker 5>My office in Chicago will be able to tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you tell them where you live and they'll

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<v Speaker 5>give you suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So doctor Aman, like, what do you you know

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<v Speaker 2>if someone's listening right now, because obviously anyone listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast right now this episode is interested in ADHD,

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<v Speaker 2>right whether it's for themselves, probably specifically for themselves because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a specific episode about adults. So in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>ADHD and how it presents itself, does it present itself

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<v Speaker 2>differently between men and women?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, more so between boys and girls. For boys,

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<v Speaker 5>they tend to be disruptive and a bit more active.

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<v Speaker 5>Girls tend to be more spacey. And there's still a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of gender bias in our society where if a

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<v Speaker 5>little boy is having trouble, They're like, wait, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have to take care of a family someday, I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>get them help. Where if a little girl's having problems,

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<v Speaker 5>there's not quite that sense of urgency.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, oh, well, we hope.

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<v Speaker 5>She marries someone nice, which is completely irrational given that

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<v Speaker 5>women in our society today are doing way more than men.

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<v Speaker 5>Women are working outside the house eighty to ninety percent

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<v Speaker 5>of the time. They're primary caretakers for children, primary caretakers

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<v Speaker 5>for the house, and you know, we now have three

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<v Speaker 5>generations of tired women. When you add short attention span, distractability, restlessness,

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<v Speaker 5>they often end up on antidepressants or anti anxiety medications,

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<v Speaker 5>which generally make ADD worse. Not saffron, but if they

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<v Speaker 5>go on prozac or lexapro, their ADD becomes worse and

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<v Speaker 5>they actually don't care that it's worse because they're less anxious. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and adults, it's still those five And how

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<v Speaker 5>most adult women get diagnosed is they have a son

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<v Speaker 5>that has ADD, they bring them to the doctor. When

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<v Speaker 5>the doctor goes, okay, where does this come from? And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, as you go through the symptoms, you know, mom,

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<v Speaker 5>or dad generally raises their hands. There's classic ADHD hyperactive, restless, impulsive,

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<v Speaker 5>can't concentrate, so it's the classic type. There's inattentive ADD

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<v Speaker 5>they're really never hyperactive, not really terribly impulsive, but short

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<v Speaker 5>attention span, destractibility, disorganization. There's over focused ADD that they

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<v Speaker 5>have ADD symptoms. Plus they're worried, rigid, and flexible. If

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<v Speaker 5>things don't go their way, they get upset. And stimulants

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<v Speaker 5>for ADD tend to make that type worse. There's sad

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<v Speaker 5>ADD where it's just its low level of dysthymia or sadness.

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<v Speaker 5>There's anxious ADD and then something called the ring of

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<v Speaker 5>fire where it's not low activity in the brain, it's

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<v Speaker 5>excessive activity.

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<v Speaker 4>In the brain.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why you know, not everybody should get the

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<v Speaker 5>same treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>And would the scan help diagnose that? You can tell

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<v Speaker 3>by the scan if you're in the ring of fire

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<v Speaker 3>or where you're at on the I guess the ADD

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<v Speaker 3>chart death. That's incredible, that's really edible. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>just cutting edge and stimulants you're a fan of, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not a fan of. I want to kind of debunk

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<v Speaker 3>some of these things.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm a fan of them for the right brain.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a fan of them for the wrong brain.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you have the ring of fire, I publish

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<v Speaker 5>this study eight times out of ten, stimulants are going

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<v Speaker 5>to make you worse and so or if you have

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<v Speaker 5>the limbic or sad add you tend to get really bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Withdrawal from the stimulants. You do better either with samy

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<v Speaker 5>which is a supplement saffron, or well buttrin, which is

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<v Speaker 5>an antidepressant that also helps people have add the anxious

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<v Speaker 5>add Generally, the stimulants will make you more anxious anxious,

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<v Speaker 5>and so balancing that out with gabba or the inning

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<v Speaker 5>can be helpful. You know, stimulants for the right person Concerto, Riddle,

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<v Speaker 5>and adderall by bands for the wrong personal, disrupt them

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<v Speaker 5>for the right person. I mean they literally go from

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<v Speaker 5>ds and f stays and bs. They go from being

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<v Speaker 5>fired from their job to running the company. And I

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<v Speaker 5>end up seeing a lot of entrepreneurs and I had

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<v Speaker 5>won one of the first ones I saw. He owned

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<v Speaker 5>three card dealerships. He said after a year he made

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<v Speaker 5>more money than he ever made in his whole life

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<v Speaker 5>because he could focus.

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<v Speaker 1>We loved having you on. We love you.

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<v Speaker 3>We think you are just a jewel. We follow you,

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<v Speaker 3>we love all the advice you give. So thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much, We so appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, thank you so much.