1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. Four 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: hunters have been charged with criminal trustpass, a violation of 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Wyoming State Code annotated six dash three dash three zero 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: three in Carbon County, Wyoming, of which Rawlins is the 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: county seat. Corner crossing is the act of stepping from 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: one piece of public land to another piece of public 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: land by stepping over the intersection where four corners of 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: land meet. Corner crossing in Wyoming, just like anywhere in 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the West, is a contentious issue, with the exception of 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: an opinion written to the then Wyoming Director of Fishing 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Game by the then state Attorney in June of two 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: thousand four, which ends with no, bro corner crossing is 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: totally legal. You're just stepping from public land to public 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: land hunt on. I'm totally kidding. Of course, this is Wyoming, 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: for gosh sakes. The opinion ends with quote corner crossing 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: from one parcel of public land to another in order 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: to hunt on that other public parcel, depending on the 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: factual situation involved may not be violative of Wyoming State 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: annotated twenty three dash three dash three zero five because 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: to be convicted, the statute requires a person hunt or 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: intend to hunt on private property without permission quote corner crossing. However, 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: maybe a criminal trustpass under Wyoming State annotated six dash 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: three dash three zero three. Once again, the factual circumstances 27 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: would have to be examined to determine if a violation 28 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: of Wyoming State annotated six dash three dash three zero 29 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: three had occurred. In case you haven't guessed, these four 30 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: hunters who have been charged with criminal trust bass were 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: indeed corner crossing. Now, to go back to this conclusion 32 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: I just read. My understanding is this. What this opinion 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: did was removed Wyoming Fishing Game's ability to cite someone 34 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: for corner crossing because even if they wanted to, they 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't technically have the power to cite someone for criminal trustpass. 36 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Only trustpass. This opinion and a following memorandum stating the 37 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: above went out to the Wyoming County Attorneys, the Wyoming 38 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, and the Wyoming Department of Agriculture. This was 39 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: in regards to a case that had recently been tried 40 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: called State versus Kearney, which is very, very similar to 41 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: the current situation in Carbon County. An individual current stepped 42 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: across a section marker pin at the intersection of four 43 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: sections of land from public land to public land, and 44 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: the intent was to only hunt public land. The then 45 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: head of Wyoming Fishing Game reached out to the state 46 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Attorney General's office and said, Hey, if this guy, Kearnie 47 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: couldn't be prosecuted for trustpass, why would we, as game 48 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: wardens cite someone for trustpass when they corner cross Please 49 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: clear this up. The state Attorney General went so far 50 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: as to say, I understand how this could lead people 51 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: to think that corner crossing is legal. Probably about now, 52 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you folks, who may not 53 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: be quite as near to corner crossing as a lot 54 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: of folks in the West are are thinking like, uh, cripes, 55 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: can we move on? What's the big deal? Why do 56 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: you keep explaining that someone stepped from public land to 57 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: public land. Of course they can't be charged, that's just 58 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: common sense. They went from public to public. Well, let 59 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: me tell you this strange situation of whether a person can, 60 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: in the act of stepping trust pass on private property 61 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: even though they're starting footstep was on public land and 62 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: their ending footstep was on public land. This weird dilemma 63 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: currently has about six point three five million public land 64 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: acres landlocked from the general public use. I'll pause for 65 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: effect there. If you, like many folks in the West, 66 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: just did, ended your big game hunting season a little 67 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: frustrated by seeing a lot of other hunters on public land, well, 68 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: you know, at least you know there's another six point 69 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: three five million acres out there. Right this week, we've 70 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: got underwater tusk, the white tail rut, and so much more. 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: At first, I'm gonna tell you about my week, and 72 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: my week happens to be written from Kansas. In fact, 73 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a rental suburban of sorts talking to 74 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: you outside of a stinky duck house full of dudes 75 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: have been basically skunked hunting ducks. If you don't know 76 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: much about Kansas, no this It is the state with 77 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: the world's largest ball of cecil twine. Cecil twine is 78 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: a plant fiber twine used for a lot of stuff, 79 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: in this case agricultural cordage. How big is this ball 80 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: of twine? You may ask, Only eight million, five hundred 81 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: and seven four hundred thirty ft long, weighs about twenty 82 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: seven thousand, seventeen pounds. And of course, anytime you see 83 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: something like this you must reference the greatest road trip 84 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: comedy of all time. Personally, I'd rather see a giant 85 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: ball of twine than your cousin Eddie. That's Vacation, which 86 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: is a classic. Again, and I don't believe that's a 87 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: direct quote, but you'll get the gist. Just watch it again. 88 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: I don't know what they call this stuff, hamburger helper, 89 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: it does. Just find myself. The other thing I wanted 90 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: to talk about was starting December six, we at the 91 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Meat Eater Store are running a big promotion. And listen up. 92 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: This is where it gets interesting. If you enter the 93 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: promo code cal that's c a L at check out, 94 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: a portion of every sale will go to Wyoming backcountry 95 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: hunters and anglers, who will put those funds towards the 96 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: legal fees of the four hunters who are being charged 97 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: with criminal trustpass because they stepped from public land to 98 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: public land. I want to be clear here, I don't 99 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: think these four folks are heroes. I don't think the 100 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: private property owners are villains, but I do think public 101 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: land should be accessible, especially by those willing to walk 102 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: to get there. Any excess funds raised above and beyond 103 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: the necessary legal fees will go to the Wyoming Access 104 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Yes program, the program that provides public access to private 105 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: ground by paying willing landowners who choose to participate. Here's 106 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: a quote from Wyoming Backcountry Hunters and anglers. Access to 107 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: quality habitat on public lands is critical to sustaining our 108 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: hunting heritage. As such, it's imperative that hunters fight for 109 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: access and defend our public trust when necessary. If you'd 110 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: like to join the fight, please consider supporting these four 111 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: hunters by donating to the Wyoming b H. A go 112 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: fund me page at www dot go fund me dot com. 113 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Forward slash f forward slash corner crossing legal fee fundraiser 114 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: quick Google will get you there. I promise these funds 115 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: will be used to cover the legal expense of these hunters, 116 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: and the remaining balance will be donated to Access Yes, 117 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: a program assisting private landowners to provide hunters and anglers 118 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: places to hunt and fish. It is Wyoming b h 119 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: S understanding that these hunters corner crossed legally and we're 120 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: cited in error. It would have been easier and much 121 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: cheaper for these hunters to pay the fines and allow 122 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: a precedent to be set. This fundraiser is specifically aimed 123 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: at balancing the scales of justice while supporting legal access 124 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: to public lands. All funds not used for legal proceedings 125 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: will be donated to the Wyoming Game and Fish Access 126 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Yes program. What do you think about them? Apples? So 127 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: here's the deal. Buy some stuff associated with me. I 128 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: got a wish list on the meat eater dot com. 129 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: Whatever you do, whatever you buy, type in cal as 130 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: your promo code, and a chunk at change will go 131 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: to providing access and making sure that folks know that 132 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: you can legally corner cross, which again is stepping from 133 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: public land to public land. God bless and Merry Christmas. 134 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Moving on and very appropriate to our conversation. Everyone knows 135 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that digital mapping has been a game changer for public 136 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: land hunting and fishing. Apps like on x let hunters 137 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: and Angler Scout from miles away stay oriented in the wilderness, 138 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: avoid being in places where they shouldn't be. These mapping 139 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: tools also help hunters overcome the single greatest barrier to 140 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: getting out in the woods, which is access. As I 141 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: just mentioned, millions of acres of public land are inaccessible 142 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: to the general public, commonly referred to as landlocked. These 143 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: tracts of public BLM, State Forest Service, even wilderness are 144 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: surrounded by private property that prohibits you and I from 145 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: accessing the land we all own. Many of these private 146 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: properties contain ease months negotiated with the landowner when the 147 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: property was sold. The government agreed to sell the land, 148 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: but required the landowner to allow the public to travel 149 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: across the property to access the land beyond it. I'm 150 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: generalizing here, but that's the idea. There's just one problem. 151 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: Many of these easements were negotiated before electronic filing was invented, 152 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: and the easement roads and trails are often unmarked or 153 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: almost totally obliterated. If you want to find out whether 154 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: there's an easement across a particular piece of private property, 155 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you'd have to dig through some dusty old government filing cabinet. 156 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Fortunately for US, the Bureau of Land Management in the 157 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: US Forest Service are beginning to do this hard work. 158 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: They are combing through old land deeds finding easements to 159 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: landlocked public land and digitizing that information so it can 160 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: be viewed on an interactive map. Even better, they're sharing 161 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: that data with folks at on X, so millions of 162 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: hunters can see and take it advantage of these newly 163 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: discovered ease months. In two thousand nineteen, the BLM launched 164 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: a pilot project to digitize road and trail access ease 165 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: months in the Montana Dakota District. In two thousand twenty, 166 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: the Forest Service got in on the game, and so 167 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: far the agencies have identified additional access points to over 168 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty unique tracts of public land in 169 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Montana and Idaho. That is a huge deal. That includes 170 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: more than twenty nine thousand, six hundred acres of land 171 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: that was previously identified as landlocked. Of course, there's a 172 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: lot more work to be done. BLM officials told the 173 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: Buildings Gazette that they wanted to do the same work 174 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: in all Western states, and they estimate that there are 175 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: five thousand ease months and twelve thousand patent reservations stored 176 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: in BLM file cabinets. As you can imagine, digitizing all 177 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: those files is time consuming and grueling work. Congress right 178 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: now is considering a bill that would give us exactly 179 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: what we need, which is more manpower to get this 180 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: digitizing done. The Modernization Access to Our Public Land Act, 181 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: also known as the map Land Act, which we've spoken 182 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: about several times, would secure funds from the Departments of 183 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the Interior, Agriculture, and the Army to digitize all ease 184 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: months and make them available to the public within three years. 185 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: If this sounds familiar, it's because we hit it. Yeah, 186 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: think about that, within three years we'd have a clear 187 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: path to access showing every federal public land easeman in 188 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the country. I don't know exactly how much landlocked public 189 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: land that would give us access to, but more is better. 190 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Right Montana alone contains over three million acres of inaccessible 191 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: public land, as does Wyoming. In total, the Theodore Roosevelt 192 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Conservation Partnership identified nearly ten million acres of landlocked public 193 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: land in western States. The map Land Act could help 194 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: solve that problem. And to clarify, it's not acquiring any 195 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: additional public land. It's simply giving us access to the 196 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: land we already own. To me, that sounds pretty darned good. Now, 197 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: before you open up on AX and go charging down 198 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: these new ease months. You should know a few things. First, 199 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: be respectful of private property. These ease months are for access, 200 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: not for outdoor wreck. In other words, don't stop to hunt, 201 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: fish or look at wildlife. Keep moving until you reach 202 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: public land. I recently went to a cabin that is 203 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: deep into public lands but on deeded ground. The ease 204 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: month to that cabin does not allow you to stop 205 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: cut firewood, glass for big game, hunt fish, whatever on 206 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: a closed section of road. It only allows you access 207 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: to your dated property, which I think is perfectly fine. Second, 208 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: if you find a new easement, it's important to remember 209 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: that some of these haven't been maintained for decades. Roads 210 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: may be unmarked or even nonexistent. The landowner might not 211 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: know about them and be very surprised to find you 212 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: trapesing across the property. As always, be courteous. If you 213 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: think there are potential issues, knock on a door, make 214 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: the necessary phone calls. Even with these qualifications, this is 215 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: exciting stuff. Knowing about these ease monts will give us 216 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: more opportunities to hunt and fish and expand the acreage 217 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: available in many Western states. The only downside is some 218 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: of us who have done our homework may find an 219 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: extra person or two in our extra secret spot. Moving 220 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: on to the religion desk, A white tail buck in 221 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Michigan crashed into a local church on the first day 222 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: of the state's rifle season. When pastors Amanda and Luke 223 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Acre arrived at Church and Sturgis, Michigan, on Monday, November fifteen, 224 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: they thought they'd been robbed, but when they opened the 225 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: door to the sanctuary, they found a ten point whitetail 226 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: buck perusing the donation cards in the back of the pews. 227 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: There was some damage to the building and our pastors 228 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: are a little traumatized, but the buck left strengthened in 229 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: the Lord to go face his battles, the church wrote 230 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: on its Facebook page. Believe it or not, white tail 231 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: frequently find themselves trapped in buildings, especially during breeding season. 232 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: Chad Stewart from the Michigan Department of Natural Resources told 233 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: us they've encountered deer in churches, houses, grocery stores, department stores, 234 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: and on top of ski lifts. In fact, on the 235 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: same day this deer broke into a church in southern Michigan. 236 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Another deer in Louisiana made its way inside Baton Rouge's 237 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: largest hospital. That deer had apparently been hit by a 238 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: car before ran through the main entrance of the hospital 239 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: and up an escalator. It was captured within just a 240 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: few minutes and euthanized later that day. That deer was 241 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: obviously trying to get some medical attention, but probably not 242 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: the Cavorkian type. Rest in peace. It's possible the Michigan 243 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: buck wanted to confess a few nagging sins. This is 244 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: the rut time of year, after all, or the more 245 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: likely explanation, this buck mistook his reflection in the window 246 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: for arrival. Pastor Amanda Aker agreed. She told us the 247 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: deer had been hanging around the church since the previous Sunday, 248 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and she believes he spotted a rival in the reflection 249 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: of the window. Since white tail bucks only have a 250 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: few weeks in the entire year to breed their keyed 251 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: up and ready to fight during that period in late 252 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: October and November, if this buck thought another buck had 253 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the audacity to wander into his territory, he was going 254 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: to do something about it. Unfortunately for him, he broke 255 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: through his rival found himself in the middle of an 256 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: empty sanctuary and in a video posted on the church's 257 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Facebook page, the buck can be seen climbing the stairs 258 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: to the balcony and suddenly jumping up the wall. It's 259 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: an impressive leap. One could say it was a leap 260 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: that took faith on the leap from the lion's head. 261 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: Sturgis pastors told local media that they had already barricaded 262 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: the doors to the sanctuary, but they were afraid the 263 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: deer would damage the sound equipment on the balcony. No 264 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: damage was done beyond the broken window, and the bucks 265 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: soon walked back down the stairs and jumped back out 266 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: through the broken frame. If you ever find yourself in 267 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: this situation, Stewart has a few tips. First, make sure 268 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: you stay safe. If it looks like the deer might 269 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: injure you or anyone else, dear clear if you think 270 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: you can safely coax it through a window or gate. 271 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that deer usually move along a wall 272 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: or fence. If you're a white tail hunter, you know this. 273 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: A deer isn't going to cross a feel older a 274 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: room from one side to the other. He's going to 275 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: creep along the edge. The same apparently goes for a 276 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: rectory emergency room or living room. Knowing this might help 277 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: you develop a strategy for encouraging the animal to clear 278 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: the area, or maybe you make sure of your target 279 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: and beyond then you know, take care of the situation. 280 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: After all, they don't often walk that close to your 281 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: freezer on their own, do they. Moving on to the 282 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: legislation desk, West Virginia Senator Joe Manchon and Wyoming Senator 283 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: John Barrasso recently introduced a new piece of legislation they're 284 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: calling the Outdoor Recreation Act. This bill, according to a 285 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: press release, is designated to quote increase and improve outdoor 286 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: recreation opportunities across the nation, while improving infrastructure and driving 287 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: economic growth in rural communities. The authors have already published 288 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: the bill's entire text online so you can read it 289 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: yourself at Energy dot Senate dot gov. The bill is 290 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: divided into directives related to three categories, increasing recreation opportunities, 291 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: improving those recreation opportunities, and investing in recreation infrastructure and 292 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: rural communities. For example, the bill would require the Forest 293 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: Service and the Bureau of Land Management to consider recreation 294 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: resources when developing or revising land management plans. Agencies would 295 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: have to assess the costs and benefits of current recreation 296 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: use and consider how they might expand or enhance recreation 297 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: in the future. The bill would also require the Forest 298 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Service and the BLM to ensure that each National Forest 299 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: and BLM district has at least one designated shooting range. 300 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: It would modernize campsites by installing broadband internet and certain locations, 301 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: and direct the Forest Service and BLM to finalize their 302 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: trail and road maps. Trails and road maps are a plus, 303 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: broadband internet near to the trailhead is a bit of 304 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: a bummer in my opinion. Part of the reason folks 305 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: head outside is to disconnect, which is great, and part 306 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: of the reason they head back to the city is 307 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to get reconnected to the internet, which in turn leaves 308 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: some vacancies at campsites, which is great too. But in general, 309 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: I was pleased to see the agencies responsible for managing 310 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: much of the federal public land in the US would 311 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: be required to consider recreation when developing land management plans, 312 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: but in my opinion, they typically do right now. I 313 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: think the real benefits to hunting and fishing up here 314 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: in the third section of the bill, not so much 315 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: in the policies themselves, but in the larger ideas behind 316 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: those policies. The third section of the legislation acknowledges that 317 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: many states, recreation is a big part of local and 318 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: rural economies. Thousands of Americans make a living running the restaurants, hotels, 319 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: outfitter services, and transportation businesses that serve hunters, anglers, high kers, 320 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: and campers. In total, outdoor wreck accounted for three D 321 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: seventy four billion dollars with the bee of the nation's 322 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: gross domestic product that's in two thousand twenty. That's one 323 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: point eight percent of the entire national economy, or about 324 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the same percentage as the mining or utilities industries. The 325 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: general undecided public may not care so much about how 326 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: much the hunting or fishing communities spend, but we know 327 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: politicians do even better. As the TRCP points out, lawmakers 328 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: will be more likely to spend wisely on conservation priorities 329 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: since the outdoor recreation industry relies on healthy habitats and 330 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: animal populations to survive. The bill highlights the economic benefits 331 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: of outdoor recreation by directing federal agencies to provide financial 332 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: and technical assistance to businesses and communities adjacent to recreation destinations. 333 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the hamburger joint you love in the town below 334 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: your favor trailhead needs an updated checkout system. They'll run 335 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: more efficiently and stay in business longer. This bill might 336 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: be able to help with that. In turn, maybe that 337 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: business owner will hang a sign in the window that 338 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: says something like, uh, where Hunter's Orange get a free milkshake? 339 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Who knows? This bill also directs the Forest Service to 340 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: better understand visitor trends and how seasonal closures of federal 341 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: land impact adjacent businesses. Where those closures harm those businesses, 342 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: the Department of the Interior would be required to look 343 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: for opportunities to extend the period of time federal land 344 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: is open to the public, which is interesting. I was 345 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: thinking about this a lot today. If you haven't heard, 346 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: the dam at Hebgen Lake, which controls the Madison River, 347 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: a river that is heavily recreated upon and many, many, 348 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: many businesses have staked their sole reason for being on 349 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: this river and the folks that create on it. That 350 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: damn had a malfunction and the river dropped too perilously 351 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: low levels for fish life, causing undoubtedly an economic impact 352 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: to these recreational businesses. If this bill were to pass 353 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: in its current form, would these entities have to somehow 354 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: reimburse these businesses that have staked their claim on one 355 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: particular river that is controlled by a dam. I don't know. 356 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: Does the already giant bloated beyond belief fire budget have 357 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: to now include funding that would pay folks who can't 358 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: go out in the woods. I don't know. There's only 359 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: so much time on the calendar year, right, so if 360 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: you get locked out of the woods during fire season, 361 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: does the Forest Service have to then remove the seasonal 362 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: closures on let's say, calving areas for elk because they'll 363 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: be obligated to with this bill. I don't know. This 364 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: bill isn't the kind of generational investment we've seen with 365 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: the Great American Outdoors Act or the Recovering America's Wildlife Act, 366 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: But as with Folsburg of the TRCP told us, it's 367 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: a good bill that makes incremental steps in the right direction. 368 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: He even pointed out that it could become a vehicle 369 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: for other conservation and access bills, like the map Land 370 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: Act and the Ruby Mountains Protection Act. It's unclear right 371 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: now whether this bill stands a good chance of passing 372 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: through Congress. It's being introduced by a Democrat and a Republican, 373 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: which is a good sign. Just know it's out there 374 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: and we'll keep you posted on any movement. Moving on 375 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: to the sunken treasure Desk, scientists searching for new deep 376 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: sea species off the coast of Monterey, California made unexpected 377 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: discovery during an expedition in two thousand nineteen. Lying right 378 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: there on the ocean floor, ten thousand feet below the surface, 379 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: they spotted the tusk of a young female mammoth. The 380 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute doesn't employ many mammoth experts, 381 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: but they knew a tusk when they saw one. They 382 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: also knew that if they didn't try to pick it up, 383 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: they'd regret it they probably could never find it again. Unfortunately, 384 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: it was fragile and they were only able to recover 385 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a fragment, But that fragment was enough to confirm that 386 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: they had found a mammoth tusk, and in July of 387 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: this year, a team went back to recover the entire 388 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: prehistoric tooth. Ancient mammal remains have never been found in 389 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: water so deep, but mammoth remains have been found in 390 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: Western Europe's North Sea. These artifacts end up in the 391 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean for the same reason people keep 392 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: finding human feet on the beaches of Washington State. When 393 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: animals die, there remains sometimes wind up in the ocean. 394 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: Their body parts float out to sea, and as long 395 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: as they aren't wearing shoes, slowly sank to the bottom. 396 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: That's what scientists believe happened to this mammoth. How this 397 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: tusk survived for hundreds of thousands of years in ocean 398 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: water is even more interesting. According to the research on 399 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: this project, the three foot long tusk was covered in 400 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: a thick iron manganese crust. That crust formed a shell 401 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: around the tusk that kept it intact for obviously a 402 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: very long time. Scientists are still trying to determine exactly 403 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: how long it's been there, but unpublished research suggests that 404 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: this specimen may have come from the Lower Paleolithic era, 405 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: which lasted from two point seven million years ago through 406 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: about two hundred thousand years ago. Mammoth remains from this 407 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: period are extremely rare. Because of that, we don't really 408 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: know what's going on during this time period. Usually, saltwater 409 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: environments aren't great for preserving ancient mammal specimens, but in 410 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: this case, thanks to that mineral shell, the darkness and 411 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: low temperature actually helped preserve the DNA within this tusk. 412 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: Scientists will be able to analyze the DNA to determine 413 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: the species of mammoth as well as its lineage. That 414 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: information could help solve an ongoing mammoth riddle that's been 415 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: dogging researchers for decades. The first mammoths in North America 416 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: were known as step mammoths, and it's believed that they 417 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: came across from Eurasia about one point five million years ago. 418 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands of years later, the wooly mammoth arrived 419 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: on the continent and began breeding with the step mammoth. 420 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: Those hybridized animals became known as Colombian mammoth. The trouble is, 421 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: no one knows exactly when that hybridization event occurred. According 422 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: to scientists who spoke with The Times, this tusk could 423 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: help determine exactly when these massive mammals began to hybridize. 424 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Scientists can learn even more about this mammoth from her tusk. 425 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Tusk grow like tree rings, which gives scientists a clear 426 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: timetable for life events like giving birth. These layers also 427 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: contain isotopes that can be traced back to the kinds 428 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: of food the animals eating and where that food came from. 429 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Understand Ending simple things like that could have far reaching effects, 430 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: especially as their planet changes. This is a glimpse into 431 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: the past, a window back in time, and it makes 432 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: you wonder what else is lying preserved on the ocean floor, 433 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: just waiting to be found. That's all I've got for 434 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: you this week. Thank you so much for listening. As 435 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: per usual, let me know what's going on in your 436 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: neck of the woods by writing in to a s 437 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: k C A L that's asked cal at the Meat 438 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: Eater dot com. 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