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Speaker 3: But I think everybody would be happy they they've addressed

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, Tuesday, post draft, so we'll be uh

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Speaker 2: getting all our post draft reactions from Deuce and Alex

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Speaker 2: and Evan, Paul, myself, Matt and Nabooth. We got lunch

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Speaker 3: Kevin and San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Kevin and San Francisco. Thank you, Kevin, MVP Kevine.

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Speaker 5: I love you.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna uh somehow get that food here.

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Speaker 3: But Fate's gonna effort that for us.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 2: The problem is it's only a Jersey Mikes in San

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Speaker 5: That's a long trip. It's gonna be a long deliver. Faith.

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Speaker 4: You've got to have faith for that kind of See

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Speaker 4: you next week.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: So here we are, Tuesday, after the draft. How are

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Speaker 2: we feeling? You know anything? You know, now that we've

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Speaker 3: I'll jump in. I feel good. I don't feel great.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like overwhelming, like I think they nailed it.

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Speaker 3: I think there's some intrigue, but you know, I think

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Speaker 3: there's definitely some questions about these guys. The three things

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Speaker 3: And those are kind of the questions for me that

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Speaker 3: those three things will probably determine whether or not this

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Speaker 3: draft class was a hit. A couple guys I'm excited

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, that's that's kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: I don't I guess luke warm. I guess would be

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Speaker 3: for a draft anyway, you don't know exactly what you

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm still a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 3: disappointed that they missed out on some of you know,

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Speaker 2: Anyone else?

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Speaker 7: I feel great?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel great?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean I feel like we're the most positive sports narrative

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Speaker 4: Wow, Red Red Sox, true, right, let's go right, two

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Speaker 2: But they're hot, These kids are getting hot.

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Speaker 5: I love it. Anyway.

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Speaker 7: No, I appreciated that my Twitter followers were like fifty

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Speaker 7: to fifty happy and upset. It wasn't one hundred percent upset.

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Speaker 7: I obviously don't put as much credence pre draft as

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I know they were trying to move up,

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Speaker 4: You know, I made some calls yesterday. People around the

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Speaker 4: league get the scuttle butt of what other people think

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Speaker 4: of the Patriots draft, and I think there's a lot

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Speaker 4: people I've spoke with feel like Keon White will be

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Speaker 2: So did anyone that you talk to talk about what

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Speaker 4: Not so much, No, but maybe that that's something that

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Speaker 4: the idea is certainly to compliment what they already have

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Speaker 4: maybe not one hundred, but top one, twenty five type

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Speaker 4: of guy. I saw. Mike Reeste did a report that

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Speaker 4: But I think the overall theme of the conversations I

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Speaker 4: I think that a lot of these guys they are like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they like they'll they'll be fine NFL players, but are

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Speaker 4: they gonna be game changers? Not based off of the

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Speaker 5: I really like the first two picks. We talked about

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Speaker 5: this all weekend. I mean, I thought Gonzalez was excellent.

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Speaker 5: I think that's an excellent second round pick. You know,

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Speaker 5: difference makers, you know, needle movers generally unavailable in the

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Speaker 5: second round, right, Like, I'm not telling you they can't be. No, But,

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Speaker 5: like like Evan said, with those kinds of measurables, if

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Speaker 5: first round pick. Now, I'm just looking like cause I'm

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Beast had him forty seven overall. You

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Speaker 5: I think to Evan's point, you got guys closer to

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Speaker 5: ones that you pick early. I have reservations about the

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Speaker 5: the day three picks, there's two things that I would say.

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Speaker 5: Number One, the pick I like the most is Booty.

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Speaker 5: I think it's hypocritical, and this is what I said

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Speaker 5: I love the pick. I absolutely love rolling the dice

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Speaker 5: when those kinds of guys are available, you take a flyer.

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Speaker 5: So I love love that pick. And the other thing,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they tried, but I think everybody was

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Speaker 5: And it was a record amount of trades yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: To They don't like us.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's against that.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think the one position that you

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Speaker 4: have to lo back on and grow. Was asked about it,

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Speaker 4: and he mentioned that the guys they had on their

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Speaker 4: you wonder, I think at forty six they were locked

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Speaker 4: into Keon White because Reese also reported that Keon White

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Speaker 4: was on the shortlist at seventeen, so they really liked

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Speaker 4: the player in Keon White. So I don't think they

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Speaker 4: were taking Luke Schoonmaker in the second round. That was

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Speaker 4: never I'm sure a conversation in the draft from the

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Speaker 4: to play that game with, you know, it's two to

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Speaker 4: three years down the line. Or Tucker Craft and Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 4: In the third round, you took Mapu over both of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what does this say now about the offense?

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Speaker 2: He took some three interior linemen. That's not going to

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm not counting on the two

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Speaker 3: I mean I would just say one one thing on that,

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Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien, it's Mike KASICKI you know, it's Juju Smith

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Speaker 3: And I mean I do I would just say, though,

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Speaker 3: hoping for? And I think I was almost I wasn't

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Speaker 3: putting a name to my claim.

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Speaker 2: In my head, my name was a trade. My name

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a name to the claim, and that's

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Speaker 5: Looking at available guys, we're talking a lot about Day

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Speaker 5: two receivers, whether it be tight ends or wide receivers.

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Speaker 5: You guys both like Downs more than me.

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Speaker 3: I think we didn't go till I mean, he was

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Speaker 4: He went two picks after they picked Mop of day Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's like, I'm not telling you that they

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Speaker 5: have been a lot of guys drafted over the last

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Speaker 3: From day two, we talked about that a lot, right,

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Speaker 5: It didn't have to be a first round receiver because

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Speaker 5: I agree with their assessment of the receivers as a

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Speaker 5: total aside. And I don't want to like bog this

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Speaker 5: at seventeen. How do you how do we feel about

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Speaker 5: that because it worries me when I read stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: when a guy gets taken thirty picks later and you

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Speaker 5: were gonna you were comfortable taking them, that that kind

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Speaker 3: And they weren't doing backflips like they were for Gonzales,

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Speaker 3: like if you still got a player that you were

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Speaker 3: It's just you got the sense they feel like they

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Speaker 3: You'd think that that would be the same attitude if

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Speaker 3: that was the case. But I'm not even I mean,

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Speaker 3: it'll sound like they really love them.

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Speaker 5: I'm not fixated on like the whole you know, Evan

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to fixate on that. They clearly didn't

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Speaker 5: love Gonzales or they wouldn't have rolled the dice. I'm

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Speaker 5: not fixated on that because they got them and that's

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Speaker 5: all that matters. And I think it's a good pick,

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Speaker 5: But that's a big gap seventeen to forty six. Huge,

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Speaker 5: Like to me, that's showing that you didn't know the

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Speaker 5: you had to take at seventeen. And now they did

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Speaker 5: they feel like they were lucky that he was available

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Speaker 2: Well, you say they had to take it seventeen. Maybe

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Speaker 5: High, right, That's what I'm saying. And else's board had

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Speaker 5: him rated that high, Well, I just I guess it

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Speaker 5: have on that is, I do think that scheme comes

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Speaker 5: Keon White is going to be different than teams that

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Speaker 5: don't play a two gapping three. That's why I prefaced

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Speaker 5: very subjective thing. It's not something no and I like

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Speaker 5: about him when we when we drafted him. I said

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Speaker 5: I'm looking, I'm you know, doing some research and trying

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Speaker 5: do think that he's he could be a valuable player

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Speaker 5: thing that I that I had mentioned Friday. But I

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Speaker 5: really good second round pick. I kind of looked back

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Speaker 5: they took him. So could this have been a cold

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Speaker 5: Strange where they're taking like they could have taken Keyon

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Speaker 5: Let's say, for what for aarguments save Washington took Gonzales

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Speaker 5: instead of Forbes? Forbes, do we then take Keon White

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Speaker 5: at seventeen and we've never would have known that he

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Speaker 5: would have been available thirty picks later? But he was

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Speaker 5: right like that kind of stuff. I mean, I know

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Speaker 5: it's a crapshooting all but that kind of stuff kind

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Speaker 2: Why did that is that Reese reporting that they were

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Speaker 4: He knew that Gonzales and Keon White. I'm sure he

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Speaker 4: And then if you put.

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Speaker 5: Because they didn't get the other two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you put Brears spin on it of Jamiir Gibbs,

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Speaker 4: I guess that's three. So we're kind of waiting on

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, you know, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: the Patriots got that information out there, so other teams

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Speaker 2: I like, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know, Detroit put it out there. They Detroit told, but

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Speaker 5: they got it in somewhere Detroit, Yeah, Detroit.

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Speaker 2: No, but Detroit got it from something.

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Speaker 5: Like they thought that the Patriots might be interested in

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Speaker 5: Jamior Gibbs. But why because Detroit told Detroit think that

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Speaker 5: I don't know why, because why did exactly why did

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Speaker 5: Broderick Jones? But because you just you just do no,

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Speaker 5: you just have a feeld No.

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Speaker 2: But you there's stuff going on out there that you

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Speaker 5: That I think Evan just gave you a very plausible example.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes teams put out these things so other teams think, oh,

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I also would say that the Lions.

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Speaker 2: It happens, Paul, That's.

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Speaker 5: How it works, like, okay, so what's the point. It's

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Speaker 5: it's what's the point?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 5: Okay? So they didn't they didn't want Keon so they

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Speaker 2: Possibly they didn't want Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 5: I don't care about Jamier Gibbs. He went six page earlier.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about the guy that they could have picked

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this information. It's it's not always well,

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Speaker 5: I think that we try to do sometimes. And when

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Speaker 5: I say we, I mean the collective media talkers, you know, analysts.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that paints them in a positive light.

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Speaker 5: I think that was put out in a way to say, Wow,

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Speaker 5: needed to. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then one of the big thoughts I had coming

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Speaker 3: out of this draft, I don't know why specifically this

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Speaker 3: it's twenty guys, like I mean, it's literally twenty guys,

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Speaker 3: just like mapoo. No, I don't know, that's what we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that based off of what we've

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Speaker 3: It's probably like twenty players that we've never even heard.

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Speaker 4: Right, and in a year like this, it might even

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Speaker 5: So Hevin, you did some you did some research yesterday,

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I actually got a lot of really positive reviews on

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Speaker 5: That's my concerns with him.

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Speaker 4: On the on the map. And then the Patriots went

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Speaker 4: going through the playbook, going through things and and really

439
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 4: had a good grasp on what they're trying to do.

440
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 4: I think the one that obviously the frame, and he's

441
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: five foot eight, you know, one hundred and seventy nine pounds.

442
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: I think it was one seventy nine, so he's small.

443
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 4: But I think the one thing that that people that

444
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: I spoke with, because my biggest question was, well, he's

445
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 4: got a really similar frame and he's got a really

446
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 4: similar athletic profile to downs in Ze Flowers, So why

447
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 4: do they go first and third round? And he goes

448
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 4: sixth round, and I think a lot of people pointed to, Uh,

449
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 4: he's a little bit raw in his route running. He's

450
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 4: kind of good at what he's good at right now,

451
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: but he doesn't have like a full route tree of

452
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 4: routes that at his disposal. And he doesn't play on

453
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: the outside. You know, those guys have at least some

454
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,719
Speaker 4: especially Zay has some potential to play on the outside.

455
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 4: But Douglas, I think everybody felt like was a true

456
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 4: inside guy with Booty. I didn't hear that he was

457
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 4: off anybody's board. I think the biggest thing that people

458
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 4: questioned about him is is that guy that with the

459
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: nineteen year old booty? Is that does that player still exist?

460
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: Like regardless of the off field stuff and getting him

461
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 4: locked in.

462
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 5: Ye, with that nineteen year old you can get physical

463
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 5: right on the right on.

464
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: The I didn't even didn't even hear that physically is

465
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: the ankle and is he does that explosiveness still exist

466
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 4: because I think a lot of people are making that

467
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: pick out to be well, if they can just get

468
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 4: him on the tracks mentally that he's he's gonna be fine.

469
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 5: That's only part of it.

470
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: The other part of it is that he had two

471
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: surgeries on the same ankle because it didn't heal properly

472
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 4: the first time, and twenty twenty two he did not

473
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 4: look like he had the same juice as he had

474
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 4: pre ankle injuries. So he did start to come on

475
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: later in the year. Though SEC championship game against Georgia

476
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 4: had over one hundred yards, so maybe they're that further

477
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: we get removed, but then the combine wasn't good, so

478
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people are concerned about if that guy

479
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 4: still still exists in him.

480
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: But he was originally going to go back, yeah and yeah.

481
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 5: Basically Brian Kelly said you're no longer part of the family,

482
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: and he ended up opting out of the bowl game

483
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 5: and declaring. But to Evan's point, there there it's twofold,

484
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: it's maturity and physical and then like there's talent there.

485
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 5: There's no doubt. I mean, we've seen the highlights. We

486
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 5: saw There's there's one clip that everybody's putting out there

487
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 5: of him absolutely dusting Forbes on a on a slant.

488
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: He takes fault.

489
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 5: Sorry. So the the other part of it is like

490
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: you look back, the freshman year is what really got him,

491
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: Like he as a true freshman stepped in and ended

492
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 5: up having a start because guys ended up leaving and

493
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: it was it was him and he had a great year.

494
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 5: But about let's say forty of his production came in

495
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 5: one game. It had over three hundred yards in one game.

496
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 5: I think he finished with like seven hundred and fifty

497
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 5: yards against that year. I think there's a lot to

498
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 5: be intrigued. Like I said, I think it's a fantastic

499
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 5: six round pick because I like, if it, let's just say,

500
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: he like flames out, like epically, you've lost nothing, right, Yeah,

501
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: there's only something to This is truly one of the

502
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: the Pagriots fans point every transaction into all you know,

503
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: all risk, no you know, I mean no risk, all rewarded.

504
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 5: This one is truly that there's nothing lost and if

505
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: he doesn't make I mean, it reminds me a lot.

506
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 3: Of those times when they've gone and gotten like first

507
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: round picks that have flamed out in the league and

508
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 3: haven't quite worked out. I mean, you know, it's this

509
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: kid was like a five star recruit. I mean he

510
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's just one of those guys that is

511
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: a natural receiver that's dripping with talent. I'm with you, Paul.

512
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: I love the shot on it. I love to see

513
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: just what he looks like when he gets out there.

514
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: And I think you heard it from mac Ro too,

515
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: like directly, like he was talking to Kaishawn Bhute when

516
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: he did his press conference right after, like it's going

517
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: to be up to him, so they're, you know, laying

518
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: down the gauntlet for him if you want this opportunity

519
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 3: here it is.

520
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 7: It really feels like the injury is the bigger deal

521
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 7: than the off the field stuff. To me, I think

522
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 7: he's a kid that almost had a great opportunity taken

523
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 7: away from him because of his off the field antics.

524
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 7: I don't think people do that twice. I don't think

525
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 7: and like you are.

526
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: Who you get trouble at a school like that was

527
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 5: you was really hard?

528
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Really, I feel like it's really.

529
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 7: I think they have they overlook everything, but they have

530
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 7: so much they get crazy. The other one, I just

531
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 7: feel like you put him in New England in this

532
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 7: locker room, and like you are who you surround yourself with.

533
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 5: Like Aaron Hernandez did all kinds of stuff at Florida

534
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 5: and got away with it because you get away with

535
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 5: that stuff at those programs.

536
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 7: It's a different world now though, when Aaron Hernandez is

537
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 7: in college, I think that's way more online. If like

538
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm giving the kid a chance, like

539
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 7: if he wants to come in here.

540
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 5: But I think I think the maturity is as big

541
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 5: a part of I agree with Evan. I think it's both.

542
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 5: I think it's I think the maturity is a big

543
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 5: problem to a guy in his first year.

544
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: I also just think that, you know, talking to everybody,

545
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: that I keep on gravitating back to Douglas because that's

546
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 4: the that's a patriot type of guy. Douglas is the

547
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: type of that's gonna be here twelve hours a day

548
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: working on his craft, studying the playbook, or you know

549
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: he wants he has that drive. I'm not saying that

550
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 4: Boot doesn't necessarily have it, but just based off of

551
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: what we've heard about him, he's not wired that way necessarily.

552
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: I agree.

553
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: He's the guy that just has so much talent that

554
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: he steps on the field on Sunday and he's just

555
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: better than everybody else. Douglas is the worker, and I

556
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: think the one comp that I got for him that

557
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: made me excited was that he's like if Marcus Jones

558
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: was full time on offense, Like, that's the type of player.

559
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: They can, you know, throw the gadget plays to him,

560
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 4: they can throw throw balls to him down the field.

561
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll be as explosive and electric

562
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: as Marcus Jones was, but that was the general feeling

563
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: was that that's sort of the skill set that you're

564
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 4: getting with him.

565
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: So what an interesting study though, I mean, I just

566
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: like a lot of the draft for me now is

567
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: just like who am I curious when we get out

568
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: on the field, just to see how they move in?

569
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: Like you laid it out, These two guys, both six

570
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: round receivers, draft pretty close to each other, you know,

571
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: kind of kind of some definite differences in how they

572
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: have gone about things. But what's it? Because I feel

573
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: like there is an opportunity for one of if one

574
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: of those guys is consistent, can be out there every day,

575
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 3: catches everything that's thrown his way, I think he's going

576
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: to get a chance to contribute to the to the

577
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: offense this year. But I don't think there's a guarantee

578
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: that either one of them do. I'm just crossing my

579
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: fingers one of them, but it's an interesting competition.

580
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: If one of them pans out, it could push Kendrick

581
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 5: Bourne off the roster.

582
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: Well, there's four. They have four receivers, right, I mean Taekwon, Parker,

583
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: Thornton and Bourn.

584
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. So Mike said at the beginning of the show

585
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 5: his room for a fifth receiver, but a contributor. Like

586
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: if one of these guys is just here, and that's

587
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: one thing. If one of these guys is so good

588
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: in the off season in training camp that he establishes

589
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: a role for himself, it could push a guy like

590
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 5: Born off the roster.

591
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: That would definitely to me, I think the better odds

592
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: are that being Boutie, assuming that he recaptures what he

593
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: had early at LSU. But I think with him, he's

594
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 4: either contributing and on the fifty three or he's out

595
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: of the building. Like I think Douglas is the type

596
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 4: of guy that you could put on a practice squad

597
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: and develop and behind the scenes, and maybe he's not

598
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: ready right now, but he's ready next year to try

599
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: to make a push for the roster. Booty is not

600
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: the type of guy that you have on the practice squad,

601
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: Like he's either gonna be on the team, or he's

602
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: gonna be into somebody else's.

603
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: I mean, effort was a question in college before he

604
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: was getting paid.

605
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Right, we mentioned Booty had a good game against Georgia.

606
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: There's another player that the Patriots picked that didn't have

607
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: a good game against Georgia, and some people think that

608
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: might have contributed to him being available at seventeen.

609
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: That's Gonzales.

610
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: But there's some context around that.

611
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: I guess, first game of the season, Patriot first game

612
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: of the season, but I mean, you know it's he

613
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: didn't he didn't look great. I mean, he looked not

614
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: physical and you know, got run over a couple of times.

615
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think Evan dove into it too.

616
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

617
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: I think there's I want a cornerback like that's athletic.

618
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't really like that's fine, like they have every

619
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: cornerback out here can tackle, Like you're telling me, Like,

620
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, he's, yeah, he's next level athletic,

621
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: but I don't know if he's a good tackler. I'm like,

622
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm past that point. I think the lead who can cover,

623
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: and that's what it's about. And even in that game,

624
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: you can see how next level athletic. The kid is

625
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: the way he moves to space. But you know, I

626
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: was not impressed with some of his you know, I

627
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: mean they got run over by Georgia. They weren't ready

628
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: to play.

629
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: They were the team itself wasn't ready. It's hard for

630
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: like one cornerback to stand out, right, Oh, I was

631
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 5: ready to play with the other ten guys sucked. That's hard.

632
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: That's hard.

633
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: I think that this is probably there's I have other

634
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 4: issues with him on film, but none of them are glaring.

635
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: And this Georgia game thing is just so ridiculous to me.

636
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: But it's not out of the norm for top corners.

637
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the guy that really stands out

638
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: and this is a j. Terrell who got torched by

639
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase when he played LSU in college and it

640
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: caused him to fall, and now he's all pro cornerback

641
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: in the league. So Jalen Ramsey similar thing. He had

642
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: one game you know, back in his day, didn't cause

643
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: him to fall, but he had one thing, one game

644
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: where he didn't play well that everybody sort of questioning it.

645
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: With Gonzalez, the plays that people are talking about against

646
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: the run with him are him trying to take on

647
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: pulling tackles or Darnell Washington at the point of attack.

648
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: And if you didn't want to draft a corner because

649
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: he can't take on a two hundred and seventy pound

650
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: tight end coming at him at full speed in the

651
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: running game, then I guess you just didn't like the player,

652
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: like I don't know, like that, that's why you're not

653
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: drafting him, I think is a little bit weird. And

654
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: then the one real catch that he gave up, he

655
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: gave up a couple of screens, and the one real

656
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: catch he gave up was an eighteen yard touchdown on

657
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: a perfectly placed back shoulder where the guy the receiver

658
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: had to toe tap in the corner of the end

659
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: zone to get his feet and bounce. So could he

660
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: have played better in the game. Yeah, absolutely, wasn't his

661
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: best game by any means. But I think some of

662
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: the nippicks on that one are a little bit of egregious.

663
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Speaker 5: I do think that they were a little bit egregious,

664
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Speaker 5: and I agree with with that notion. I just wish

665
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Speaker 5: with him just for the ease of mind. You know,

666
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: we all love the pick, but I wish there was

667
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: some examples of the others the other way. Okay, so

668
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: he went up against Georgia and you know, they didn't

669
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 5: play very well that day. I wish that they went

670
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: up against USC and like Caleb Williams with maybe Jordan Addison,

671
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: you know, but they didn't. They didn't play. So instead

672
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: it was like picking on a one on eleven Colorado team.

673
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Speaker 8: You know.

674
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Speaker 5: I wish there was that other side. I could say, well, yeah,

675
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 5: he struggled against Page Georgia, but a chance, you know,

676
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 5: he didn't really get a chance to play against a

677
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: you know, a really top level and I don't really

678
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: think george is a top level offense. I think Stetsan

679
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: Bennett's thinks.

680
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: Well, he did play against Michael Wilson, who was the

681
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: third round pick this weekend, and really played well against

682
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Speaker 4: the at the Senior Bowl, and he took him out

683
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: of the game. So that was the one that I like.

684
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Speaker 5: I mean, I like the player. You don't have to

685
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 5: sell me out.

686
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

687
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: Well, at Georgia. The Georgia game, what I was really

688
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: impressed with was his coverage ability. I think he held

689
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: up really well in coverage. And then against Michael Wilson

690
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: and Stanford, he was a lot more physical in that

691
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: game than he was in the Georgia game. So again

692
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: it's they're running these these crack tosses in these sweeps,

693
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: trying to get the DB's in the in the run game,

694
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: and he's got you know, three hundred and ten pound

695
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: tackles and Broderick Jones coming right at him, and people

696
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: are saying that, oh, well, he didn't take on Brodrick

697
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: Jones and make the tackles.

698
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Speaker 5: It's not what I'm paying them for.

699
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, but but that's what that's

700
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Speaker 4: what the conversation is about, is when it comes to

701
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Speaker 4: that Georgia game.

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Speaker 2: All right, eight five five Pats five hundred is the

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Speaker 2: A Sticket hotline, web radio at Patriots dot com is

704
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Speaker 2: the email address. Uh, take a quick phone call. Let's see,

705
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Speaker 2: we've got Anthony in Seattle. What's up, Anthony? Hey?

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Speaker 9: Hey, hey, hey, you got to hear me?

707
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 10: All right?

708
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 9: Yep, all right, great, hey, I got a rant today.

709
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 9: And uh so, first and first and foremost, I love

710
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 9: the Gonzales pick. All right, So that's who I want

711
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 9: it know, full disclosure, I don't watch college ball, but

712
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 9: you know, Evan taught me that I loved Christian Zales.

713
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 9: Duce taught me that the only guy worth trading up

714
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 9: would be Christian Zals and that would be dream scenario

715
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 9: if we could get him, but that we shouldn't expect

716
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 9: that because he's not supposed to make it outside of

717
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 9: the top ten. So when he was on the clock

718
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 9: at eleven or Tennessee was on the clock at eleven,

719
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 9: I mean that's when I started calling for trade up.

720
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 9: I'm like, you know, we got good relationship with Rabel, Like,

721
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 9: can we get this pick? So for sure when he

722
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 9: falls to you at fourteen, just make the pick, man, Like,

723
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 9: why are you playing around?

724
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 11: Now?

725
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 9: Here's my problem. Now we still got the guy, and

726
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 9: I'm ecstatic about it. But here's my issue with Bill

727
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 9: Belichick is he's going to still look like a genius

728
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 9: because it worked out. But you're going to gamble that pick.

729
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 9: You're going to play around with that pick because when

730
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 9: the clock came on, when they got on the clock

731
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Speaker 9: at seventeen, the ten minut'clock, when we made it to nine,

732
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 9: they picked him immediately. To me, that means he was

733
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 9: the guy at fourteen and he gambled it. So you're

734
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 9: gonna you're gonna risk losing your Batman so you can

735
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 9: pick up an extra Robin later like that is just

736
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 9: silly to me. And for a guy who claims that

737
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 9: he's he's always about the best interest of the team,

738
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 9: that seems like he was more so trying to show

739
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 9: that he's the smartest guy in the room once again,

740
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 9: and that came back. I mean, first off, Washington picked

741
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 9: the corner, and I think they probably picked the wrong guy.

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 9: They should have taken govin dollars. But what's worse man

743
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 9: if the Jets take him at fifteen and pair him

744
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 9: up with Sauce Gardner. Also, you can get an additional

745
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 9: fourth man that is a fireball fin I'm sorry, thank

746
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 9: you for the sixth titles. Goodbye. Don't even let him

747
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 9: finish the draft. You go from looking like looking like

748
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 9: the old one.

749
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Anthony Marble, you're right, if you're right, if

750
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: that's the only person they liked at fourteen, But apparently

751
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: they had a handful of guys that they were willing to,

752
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, pick at that position. You know, any one

753
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 2: of them, in any one of them would have been

754
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: a guy that they would have been happy with.

755
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't read. I mean that irritates me, but I

756
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: wouldn't read into the amount of time it takes, Like,

757
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: so they go from fourteen to seventeen, what do you

758
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 5: think that they did during that time. I think they

759
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: were probably constantly, yes, constantly, fielding calls for trades. They realized,

760
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: there isn't one that we like, so what are we doing?

761
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 5: I tried, I had plenty of time to make a move.

762
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: And I do agree with Fred. I don't think it

763
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 5: was one guy. I think they were probably comfortable taking

764
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: in a way handful of them. I mean, that's you.

765
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: I mean, and Anthony's right.

766
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: If there was just one guy and they were just gambling, yeah,

767
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: then that's stupid. But I don't believe.

768
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: But I do think it was. It was a somewhat

769
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 5: of it. I don't think anywhere near as strongly as

770
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Speaker 5: Anthony about it, which is why even even I wasn't

771
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Speaker 5: willing to argue about it, and I still am not

772
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: willing to argue about it. But it was a risk

773
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 5: for the one hundred and twentieth pick. To me, it

774
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: wasn't worth risking losing any of the players that you liked.

775
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: If you could say that, like, there were three players there,

776
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 5: and I would have been happy with any of them. Well,

777
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: I want my choice any of the three, so you

778
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: risk losing one of them anyway.

779
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine.

780
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: But the one hundred and twenty fifth, that's my point.

781
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: I just I don't feel strongly enough about it to

782
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 5: get mad about it. But it was a take a

783
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: needless as solus when if you know this happened, if it, well,

784
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 5: it didn't. Like so they they got the player, like

785
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: I have gripes about the whole rest of the draft

786
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: that are more important than arguing about whether or not

787
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: they should have taken them at fourteen. Because it's not

788
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: important to me and you doesn't mean it's not important

789
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: to other people. They they felt strongly about the guy

790
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: they took, and wish that the Patriots felt as strongly

791
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: like for you and me, like, I'm with you. It's

792
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 5: I understand why people are wondering about it. It's not

793
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: something that's keeping me up.

794
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

795
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 7: But also, like all the calls you're making on draft dal,

796
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: all the teams you're in connection with, is it I mean,

797
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 7: you guys would know this better than I. But is

798
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 7: it plausible to imagine that the Patriots might have had

799
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 7: a really good idea who was going to go in

800
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 7: between those two texts, I thought they were okay possible.

801
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Speaker 2: It's you know that they knew that none of these

802
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: people would take Christian concerned.

803
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 5: I think it would be better.

804
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: More possible that they had a handful of guys that

805
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: any one of them they were happy at seventeen.

806
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just don't I think it would be

807
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: more believable if Washington didn't take a corner like Washington

808
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: taking a corner. They Yeah, they might have loved Forbes

809
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: because they didn't think there was any chance Gonzalez.

810
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: Was gonna be there, but Forbes is so much different.

811
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: May have liked Forbes better, but he's also a.

812
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: Much different player. Like this is where I think that

813
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: you know, we were talking about Keon White earlier. This

814
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: is where scheme matters in the draft because Forbes is

815
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 4: a zone corner. Forbes is a ballhawking zone corner that's

816
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: gonna play off and gonna gonna go and get the football.

817
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 4: He's not a pressman corner that you're gonna have shadow

818
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: receivers like Christian Gonzalez. So in Jack del Rio's system

819
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 4: in Washington, Forbes makes more sense for them than Christian

820
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: Gonzalez does from a schematic standpoint. So if you have

821
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: those two guys, now I didn't, but I'm looking at

822
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: it from a Patriots prism. But if they have those

823
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 4: two guys relatively close and the scheme fits better with Forbes,

824
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: then you're gonna go with Forbes. So I don't think

825
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 4: it's just comparing, right.

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Speaker 2: History, Really, that's like Paul, you know, slamming down the

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Speaker 2: D'Angelo sob because he didn't like that, you know, didn't

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Speaker 5: It didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: It happened right there.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was so funny. I mean, he says it doesn't happen,

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Speaker 2: it happened.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, that didn't. I didn't slam any.

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Speaker 2: We were all sitting at the table.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: He comes walking up because we're way eating for the

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Speaker 5: If he wants to say that I walked through the

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Speaker 5: press box with attitude to let everybody know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's I would absolutely i'd cop to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did I put it down with it?

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Speaker 5: And then when you sat.

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Speaker 2: Down, what did you do?

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Speaker 5: I just put I put my sandwich down and sat

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Speaker 5: down and ate it. I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: So you weren't trying to make a statement.

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Speaker 5: It is no, no, no, no, no. I necessarily say I

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Speaker 5: wasn't making a stake. Put it right in the middle.

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Speaker 5: I had one too many pieces of chicken with a

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Speaker 2: He put right in the It was it was a

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Speaker 5: Everybody was pissed, but I was the only one that

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Speaker 2: And we were cracking up, like like we were all

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Speaker 5: It's like I've had it. I literally I literally went

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Speaker 5: I'm going I'm going to De Angelos and I went

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Speaker 5: And they would die. The Friend's right, they would die

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Speaker 5: and laugh.

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Speaker 3: That might be be on steak Tips next week. That's

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Speaker 3: another great moment from.

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Speaker 19: I.

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Speaker 2: Like Paul, everybody was pissed, but I was the only

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Speaker 2: one that did anything about right, Like he's norma Ray,

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Speaker 3: It was like dropped the Michael and it was dropped

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Speaker 3: the sandwiches, like, you know, that's it.

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Speaker 2: It was very funny. More Chicken with the ball. It

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Speaker 2: was very funny, very funny. Back here and Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 2: eight five to five Pass five hundred is the a

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Speaker 2: availability jujuh Juju Smith Schuster availability. Paul left for a camera.

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Speaker 2: He's got to film something for All Access TV show.

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Speaker 2: They'll be back, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll report back. How the juju avail was. This

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Speaker 3: is the first one since he signed.

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Speaker 2: So with Stus and I, Matt and Carlsbad, California, writes

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Speaker 2: listening since two thousand and eight, and Paul, you've always

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Speaker 2: legend freddie K. It was extremely enjoyable listening to your

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Speaker 2: change of heart with Evan. You went from hating the

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Speaker 2: guy and pretty much calling him a fraud, which culminated

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Speaker 2: huge rocket shop. Please don't deny it. But after some

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Speaker 2: Evan fan. Nice job, Paul, I'm proud of you. Also,

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Speaker 2: I too, love the value of the booty pick.

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Speaker 3: I think probably would bristle at quite quite a couple

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Speaker 3: of things there from that email, but uh, well, but

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Speaker 3: he did he asked Evan. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 3: a good question for Evan though, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: it was a shot. It's like, why don't you coach?

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Speaker 3: In the NFL. I just think, why don't you do

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Speaker 3: you have any aspirations to coach because he clearly loves

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Speaker 3: that side of the game so much. And I also

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Speaker 3: would say that I don't think that he's an amateur

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Speaker 3: but yet either, So both sides of the coin with

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Speaker 3: that one. But yeah, they're they're fun together.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones, Patty and agawam's been holding on.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Patty and how you doing?

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Speaker 9: Pretty good?

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Speaker 20: Pretty good? I just want to sound white. I'm really

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Speaker 20: excitted about the Christian Dollars pick. And then they've never

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Speaker 20: taken a cornerback that high before to develop like we've gotten.

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Speaker 20: When Belichick got here, obviously had Ty Law. You know,

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Speaker 20: in Tampa Bay that we resurrected his career Steph Gilmore.

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Speaker 20: Like you guys were saying during the draft, you know,

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Speaker 20: he was drafted pick number ten. I don't think he

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Speaker 20: ever really hit his peek until like midway through his

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Speaker 20: first year here. But I'm excited to see like what,

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Speaker 20: you know, what what he can be and do and

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Speaker 20: like like this year and next year, you know, and

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Speaker 20: throughout the life of this rick and contract and hopefully

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Speaker 20: I mean, if he's a player, they they they sign him,

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Speaker 20: you know, when a rookie deals up and they have

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Speaker 20: him stick around.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think it's a good point by Patty, just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, because we've seen them take receivers. I guess

1079
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Speaker 3: they kind of took Gilmore to the next level, but

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Speaker 3: certainly Revis was really good before he got here, and

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Speaker 3: kind of i'd say breaking in period. Curious what you

1083
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: guys would say about that. But but you know, we've

1084
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: also seen them take undrafted rookies and and changed them

1085
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: into you know, starting caliber cornerbacks. I don't think we've

1086
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: ever quite seen them get a ball of clay quite

1087
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 3: like Christian Gonzalez, who's just so athletic. I mean, that's

1088
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: one of the things I'm just excited to see is

1089
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: just his athleticism on the field. You talk about like

1090
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: Barmore's burst, like that's just something like his relentlessness that

1091
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: just in training camp are like, man, this guy is

1092
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: a handful. Just to see how Gonzalez moves in space,

1093
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: how well he's able to match against, you know, coverage

1094
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: against some of these guys and NFL players as a

1095
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: rookie and he's twenty years old, so I mean you've

1096
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: got him for five years, so yeah, you know, he's

1097
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: just it's it's exciting to think where they possibly could

1098
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: develop this kid with their track record and working with corners.

1099
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: As far as I can remember, I mean, we've taken

1100
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: cornerbacks in the first round, but never this high before,

1101
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: and never one as highly rated as this guy. So

1102
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: it'll be curious to see, you know, what a highly

1103
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: rated cornerback looks like right out of the shoot and

1104
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: training camp.

1105
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean even I remember as a kid

1106
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: watching Ty Law out of the gate and just being

1107
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: like this guy as are right immediately.

1108
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 2: I guess, I'm I don't wreck myself.

1109
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: Where did he get to selected? I guess I know

1110
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: he was.

1111
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: First round and he was pretty high out of Michigan.

1112
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think where he had he just looked

1113
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: had the look.

1114
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, Yeah he did. And you know, and

1115
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: I just remember when Revis got here, you know, like

1116
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: even at his age, he just he just did it differently,

1117
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: but it like he was twenty third yeah, but he

1118
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: was highly rated.

1119
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, same kind of thing you could just tell

1120
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: like he just has that look like you know, he

1121
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: always had it. He always I mean, give him twenty

1122
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: four too, and it's even better.

1123
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Uh, Dylan in South Carolina? What's up Dylan.

1124
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 9: There?

1125
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 6: Yep, kind of sorry, guys. I just wanted to call.

1126
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 6: I'm listening all since I was fifteen years old. Wow,

1127
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: And that's the first time I ever called in And yeah,

1128
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 6: I pretty much raised my football line and I just

1129
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: wanted to say thank you over the years, and it

1130
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 6: blows my mind here after year where you guys get

1131
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 6: rid of Eric and Andy and y'all continuously bring guys

1132
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 6: in that are entertaining knowledgeable like Evan. I never would

1133
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 6: have thought Evan Bazaar would be as big as he

1134
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 6: is on this show. But he's one of the main

1135
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 6: reasons that's to me. And it's kind of unfortunately his

1136
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 6: phone call right now to let him know that, uh.

1137
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: He doesn't.

1138
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: Well, he'll hear it on the podcast.

1139
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 3: He's probably listening right now, just in case we said

1140
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: anything about him.

1141
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's great. Yeah, that is awesome, Dylan. Thank

1142
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: you for listening since you're fifteen and in the compliments,

1143
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1144
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: I would Yeah, man.

1145
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 6: One last thing. I grew up in in South Carolina

1146
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 6: where he's pretty pretty familiar with Stefan Gilmore. And when

1147
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 6: I see Christian Gonzalez, I see a long, lanky corner,

1148
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 6: uh man corner outside and uh, I think Bill Brolsk

1149
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 6: is gonna do big things with him.

1150
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Let's hope that's great. We'll see how Thanks Dylan.

1151
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say too, just my own, like, since

1152
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: Evan's not here, I'll give him a compliment. It was just,

1153
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it was fun getting to kind of get

1154
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: pushed by him in the draft this year because he

1155
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: knows so much. He just does so much work on

1156
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: all these guys, and it's fun to come in and

1157
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, I would And we tried not to talk

1158
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: too much because we didn't want to get like the

1159
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: group think going. But it was really fun when we'd

1160
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: kind of have, hey, Evan, let's talk about Devin Witherspoon,

1161
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, just bring in somebody that I had kind

1162
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: of watched on my radar, and you know, to get

1163
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: his point of view. And I mean, honestly, a lot

1164
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: of the times we kind of had similar thoughts on guys.

1165
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's probably because both of us

1166
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: were raised by kind of watching this team and what

1167
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: this team looks for and what kind of players they like.

1168
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: So I think our opinions are often similar, but he

1169
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: just he does so much research and depth. That was

1170
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: it was a huge asset to the draft show this year.

1171
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 2: Let's see John at South Carolina says Paul's right, fans

1172
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: are idiots. It's been two years in a freaked up

1173
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: COVID year that screwed up everyone's plans. The Patriots have

1174
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: had to replace their offensive coaching staff, defensive coaching staff,

1175
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: and almost do a complete team rebuild. I feel all

1176
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: the fans that are ready for a change at head

1177
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: coach or one hundred percent delusional. When Brady left, I thought, well,

1178
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: we have five tough years ahead. Bill Belichick's worst skill

1179
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: is drafting talent, always has been, so I always expected

1180
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: the rebuild to take more time. I never saw another

1181
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: super Bowl before he retires. We are just spoiled love

1182
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: the draft shows. The guy who turned it off can

1183
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: falk off?

1184
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean like the video, I guess, I guess,

1185
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1186
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Let's go to Willem

1187
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: and philam what's up? Willem.

1188
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: How are you doing, William?

1189
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, okay, Yeah, I'm okay, I'm okay, and.

1190
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 16: I heard you, dude.

1191
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm ready, man, you got you bring it every cop

1192
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: come on.

1193
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 9: I'm okay, man.

1194
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 11: I just oh god, you know.

1195
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 9: It is what it is.

1196
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 19: I had a question for Evan first, so I have and.

1197
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: Evan's not here.

1198
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 5: Right now.

1199
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming back with me.

1200
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 18: Okay.

1201
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 9: You talk about the quarterback that we I guess we

1202
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 9: were done drafted, that we picked up with Malik kin

1203
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 9: of hand.

1204
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, call him undrafted. Lamar Jackson runs like the

1205
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: wind really really, I mean I'm intrigued by that. Like

1206
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: he's got great speed. I think he's got some short

1207
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: accuracy based on what I was research I did deep

1208
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: ball not so much. But it's hard not to look

1209
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: at him and just see him, you know, sprinting up

1210
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: the middle on on the kind of Lamar Jackson plays,

1211
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 3: and not at least be interested to see him in camp,

1212
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: but also just wonder if there's you know, a roster

1213
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: spot for him, maybe on the practice squad at least,

1214
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: just to get him ready for like the fields that

1215
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: the Lamars of the world that they just had no

1216
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: answers for last year. So I don't know, but I'm intrigued.

1217
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any kind of if anybody's

1218
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: going to make the case of, oh, maybe he makes

1219
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: some noise as a quarterback in camp. It seems like

1220
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: generally people don't really think he's got that skill set.

1221
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: But is this the kid run? And he's open to

1222
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: a position change and they gave him I think that

1223
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: was my question. So they gave him some money to

1224
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: come here, so they they, you know, is.

1225
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: There a possibility he could play another position?

1226
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: And that's the reports going on yesterday that he's open

1227
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: to that. So we'll see where he ends up. But

1228
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 3: he's another guy that, you know, just interested to see

1229
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: in camp for sure. And and I mean we talked

1230
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: about DTR all the time, about getting a quarterback that

1231
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: can run. This kid can't throw the ball like DTR can,

1232
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: but but I think he can run, probably maybe a

1233
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: little bit better than he.

1234
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 9: Cankay, Okay, all right, thanks.

1235
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: Thanks thanks one.

1236
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?

1237
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 11: Hey, I got a question. But NFL Network gave bial

1238
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 11: a plus for the first date. I ain't for a

1239
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 11: second date. In a A for the third day in draft.

1240
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 11: Do y'all believe in that crap?

1241
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: No?

1242
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean I believe they did it. But you know,

1243
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: did they give anyone a really bad grade?

1244
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1245
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 11: They gave Uh, I've got Detroit a C and and

1246
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 11: some some other teams see but bs and but he.

1247
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 11: But they gave bill an a plus doun dollars A

1248
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 11: for the second day and a minors assume a mine

1249
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 11: for the second day and A for the third day.

1250
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 11: For the people they picked. I'm like, are you kidding?

1251
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 11: Altum lineman and a punter you could have got received

1252
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 11: in a tight end.

1253
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't get to tackle.

1254
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 11: I don't know, so I can't understand that.

1255
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because they took ninety I mean I

1256
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: don't I don't know if they're like basing it on

1257
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: uh just the player rating or based on team needs

1258
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know how they do. But

1259
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't put any stock in any of that now grades.

1260
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 11: Uh one more question due, uh, I see we got

1261
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 11: just two corners speed and and the dude out of

1262
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 11: jeckt Now the train by training by about prime yep,

1263
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 11: what do you think they fit in? Is they slow?

1264
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 7: What?

1265
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 8: Uh?

1266
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 11: What they got them the sixth rounds?

1267
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: What do you speed?

1268
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: Ain't slow speed speeds? Speed's got four to three? Uh,

1269
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: you know, I hate saying how they might be special

1270
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: teams guys, but I do think that there's an, you know,

1271
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: an opportunity. I think both guys have decent size that

1272
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: neither one of them are as small as you know,

1273
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: Marcus Jones or you know, Jonathan Jones, So they do

1274
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: have that going for them. I just it's a it's

1275
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: a kind of a weird cornerback group. I was looking

1276
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: at it. There's some guys that people probably aren't aware

1277
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: are on the roster named Quandrey Moseley and Rodney Randall

1278
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: that were you know, some late season signing guys early offseason.

1279
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: So uh, I don't have high expectations for those those

1280
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: last two picks, but I do think that it's that

1281
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: there might be some opportunity there. It's just it's like

1282
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: all the special teams guys. There's so many special teams guys.

1283
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: How's that all gonna play out? I tried messing around

1284
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: with a fifty three man roster, right, I didn't find

1285
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: it all that hard with guys I really wanted to

1286
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: keep but it's all these you know, B level cornerbacks,

1287
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: interior offensive lineman. How's that all gonna shakeout?

1288
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: Thanks? Aldred, appreciate the call. Matt and Devin Uk writing

1289
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: in at web radio at Patriot dot com first great

1290
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: draft coverage, so thank you for that. It was great

1291
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: having Evan during the process this year rather than Eric.

1292
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: He was like upgrading Rex Grossman with Tom Brady. I've

1293
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: got one statement and then a question. I said to

1294
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: myself that if we managed to get Gonzales, then I

1295
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't complain about anything else that happened in the draft,

1296
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: as we would have finally selected my favorite player but

1297
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: also a talented player. But why did Bill have to

1298
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: ruin it with the rest of the draft. I just

1299
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: don't get why he doesn't take it seriously. My question

1300
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: is for Paul who just walked in. Do you think

1301
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: that we should trade for AJ Brown? As sure? What happened?

1302
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: Who's deleting emails here? What is going on? Uh? Oh?

1303
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: Like one by one these emails are being deleted. Wow,

1304
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: right in front of it, like I'm not even touching.

1305
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so weird.

1306
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: Someone wants to trade for A J. Brown?

1307
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: Again?

1308
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he's available, but yes, I would trade.

1309
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 9: For a J.

1310
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: Brown, Yes I would.

1311
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: That's so weird that all these emails just get deleted anyway,

1312
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: that's weird. Wow, I'll try another one, see what happens.

1313
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: Mike writes in I have no problem with the draft

1314
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: other than not grabbing a tight end. They appeared to

1315
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: shore up the kicking game, added a few receivers that

1316
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: potentially could fit drafted speed, which we all have been

1317
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: complaining about them doing. It appears dougger and on when

1318
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: you are out the door next year, I hope they

1319
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: are both a priority.

1320
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm with you. I mean, I'm probably with you.

1321
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: The writing's got to be on the album, Mike on

1322
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: mind you, I don't, I mean, I don't want to

1323
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: say he is gone. But if you look all three

1324
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: of those guys to me, watch a little of those

1325
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: three linemen they took on day three, they're all like

1326
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: big Mike, They're all just big maulers that that kind

1327
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: of style of play. It's not hard to see just

1328
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: and I mean honestly, like that's how it should be.

1329
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: Like you shouldn't be franchising these guys like you should

1330
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: be taking day three picks that have a year to

1331
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: develop and then you plug them into the lineup and

1332
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: you'll let these guys go. As for Douger, I don't know.

1333
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: We'll see what Mapu looks like. I mean, Evin thinks

1334
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: he's going to be a linebacker. I met him on

1335
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 3: What's Friday. He don't look like a linebacker in person

1336
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: to me, Like, I don't know, He's just he's thin.

1337
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: He's he's tall and thin. He's not He looks more

1338
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: like a tall safety to me than than than a

1339
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: than a small linebacker. So I know they asked Bill

1340
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: about putting weight on him and all those kind of things.

1341
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't I wouldn't sign off on Dougger just yet.

1342
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still the youngest and probably in the

1343
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: best of that group, unless unless they Dugger played.

1344
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: The mccordy position, or is that a waste of his athletic.

1345
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean I think he could. I just don't know

1346
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: if it's making the best The best use of him

1347
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: is his best skill is his physicality in the box.

1348
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 3: His size, I mean he's close to a linebacker size

1349
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: at this point. I mean he hits like a truck.

1350
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: So hard to say I just I don't. I'm not

1351
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: really too concerned about that Devin McCarty thing. I think

1352
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: that they're going to have some combination of Jalen Mills

1353
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: and Miles Bryant and Jonathan Jones and those three guys

1354
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: who have been in the system for a while and

1355
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: have played on the back end, and they'll kind of

1356
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: do it paint by numbers and maybe eventually somebody emerges

1357
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: as a full time free safety.

1358
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 2: But you can need that if you expect your free

1359
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: safety to be sort of like the quarterback back there.

1360
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: It's better to have a guy than have a rotation,

1361
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: and it's always a different voice.

1362
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 5: I agree with you for I think it's more of

1363
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 5: a mental thing, like whether or not a guy has

1364
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 5: the physical skills. I think Mike's right. I think you

1365
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 5: could probably have Jalen Mills back there. He might be

1366
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 5: the guy mentally that's been around. He's you know, has experience.

1367
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones clearly has the speed to do it and

1368
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 5: it starts. So that's what I'm worried about with that spot.

1369
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 5: Not that Devin mccordy wasn't a good player too, but

1370
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 5: you know, I think we got an FPFW today just

1371
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 5: talking about how good the Patriots have been in recent years,

1372
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 5: that you know, not allowing those big kind of plays,

1373
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 5: and they really have and they creditedy. I would a

1374
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: thousand percent agree with that, just being a big part

1375
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 5: of the reason for that. Is that a concern And

1376
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 5: I said, yes, you did it for ad It is

1377
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: a concern because you're losing him for the first time

1378
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: in a long time.

1379
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, we had an email who was really congratulating

1380
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: you on your evan evolution.

1381
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: I pushed back for you, Paul, on both things.

1382
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: I assume it was sarcastic enough, congratulating you a lot

1383
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 5: of credit.

1384
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: The first point was that was that that you you

1385
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: bought him out when you asked him if you ever

1386
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: wanted to be an NFL coach, which I said wasn't

1387
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: exactly true, like you that you were busting his chops,

1388
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 3: that whytn't you go coach in the NFL? I said,

1389
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: You didn't say NFL coach? He just said generally like

1390
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: why aren't you into coaching?

1391
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 5: Why do you waste your time with peons like me?

1392
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 5: It was really the tone.

1393
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 3: And then the second one was like and now you

1394
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: got now you love him, and now you guys, And

1395
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if that one's true.

1396
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Evan would push back on that.

1397
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: Anyways, somebody gave you a compliment. Let's see. Enrique from Monterey,

1398
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: Mexico was listening to your last podcast and I want

1399
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: to make one observation, and Paul will back me up here.

1400
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, yes, was Lawrence Taylor's coach, but just X

1401
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: and O's the one that really had to handle Lawrence

1402
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: Taylor's off the field personality was Bill Parcells. For all

1403
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: you younger people out there, you have no idea what

1404
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: a nut job. Lawrence Taylor was coke addict, party goer, prostitution,

1405
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: et cetera. And Parcells was the only one able to

1406
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: bring him down back to his senses. Belichick learned to

1407
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 2: deal with difficult players from Parcels. That could be true, Okay,

1408
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: Belichick learned a lot more from Parcels than you think.

1409
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure you know, how could he not?

1410
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 5: I mean, wow, I've always said that.

1411
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Bill Parcells is the Hall of Fame football coach,

1412
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: just not in the Patriots hallay.

1413
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: So, and how long was Bill with him? I mean

1414
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: like eighty four to ninety something, like that somewhere in there.

1415
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean probably close to a decade, right.

1416
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm not show one the numbers. Let's see, Adam writes

1417
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: in he is from Louisiana.

1418
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know.

1419
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: Super optimistic about the draft this year. Gonzalez is going

1420
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: to be a stud our next lockdown corner for the

1421
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: next five to seven years. Second point out of three.

1422
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: Any idea when the preseason schedule comes out, I would

1423
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: assume soon since the regular season is released next Thursday, it.

1424
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: Could be this. I mean opponents usually come first, I think,

1425
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: and I mean it could come this week, I would guess.

1426
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: I think next Thursday is when the cover before or after.

1427
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean, the preseason schedule isn't done the same way

1428
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: as the regular schedule. It's done between the teams with

1429
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: some league guidance because some of the games are national.

1430
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: But you know, it could come before, you know, the

1431
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: regular season, or could come just right after it, you know.

1432
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember getting like sometimes and they

1433
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: tell you, like, then it'll be this day like they

1434
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: give you.

1435
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 5: They give me the weekend yeaheah, it's like August eighth

1436
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 5: through eleventh.

1437
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, or anytime between six pm and eight pm. You know,

1438
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: they sometimes they don't know that because the teams are

1439
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: hashing it out because of concert conflicts and stuff like that.

1440
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: And finally, who do we think we open with? I

1441
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: think it'll be Primetime versus the Jets. Well, I do

1442
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: think it's interesting.

1443
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 5: Against the Jets would not be the dumb pick. That's

1444
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 5: I like what the emailers thinking that.

1445
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting that there was some type

1446
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: of delay in getting the schedule done up in the

1447
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: league office because they were waiting to make Lamar official

1448
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: and to make Rogers right.

1449
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then that insight from Fred Kirk.

1450
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: Once that became official, it's like, Okay, we need to

1451
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: get more Jets games in prime time and we need

1452
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: to have Ravens games in prime time because and I

1453
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: understand that.

1454
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's you know, freddy kersh well, if you will,

1455
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 5: you win those meetings meeting.

1456
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: No, they don't include me in those meetings.

1457
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: They don't include me in any meetings.

1458
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Surprising.

1459
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: No, that makes total sense. I didn't. I don't really

1460
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 5: give the schedule a whole lot of thought. Obviously, I

1461
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 5: like it. I think you got to make center.

1462
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: That obviously the division opponents and we know what the

1463
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: Jets have done and what the buzz is and I mean,

1464
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: I love when they pick games that kind of feed

1465
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 3: from the offseason narrative of like, all right, this is

1466
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 3: all kind of building and the Jets going to jump

1467
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 3: the Patriots and you know, put the Patriots down into

1468
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: into third or fourth place or fourth place.

1469
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 5: I like it.

1470
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: I like it, Jack and an Aba. By drafting three

1471
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: interior alignment in the middle rounds, are the Patriots indicating

1472
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: they are going to move Cole Strange to left tackle.

1473
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1474
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, I mean, cold Strange does

1475
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: not look like those three guys they drafted, and they

1476
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: played left guard and right guard, and I know cheese.

1477
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't. I don't have all their names

1478
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: right off the top of my head just yet.

1479
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 5: City Soal played some tackle, but City Sal's the oldest

1480
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 5: of the other guy.

1481
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: City Sale is going to be twenty five next month,

1482
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: so he's old. I know it's going around fifty five

1483
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: something played a ton, So I don't know, but I

1484
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: I didn't totally. I'm not gonna lie. I did think

1485
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: a little bit about like is this some kind of

1486
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: cold strange?

1487
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 5: I threw I threw it out there on Saturday, and

1488
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 5: I was summarily dismissed really by you use guys, not

1489
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 5: so much because you don't do that to me. I

1490
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: just find it. They drafted a couple of backup They

1491
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 5: drafted two day three offensive lineman last year. They draft

1492
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 5: three day three offensive linemen this year. I can't imagine

1493
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 5: that that's just about Michael and you, right like, because

1494
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 5: they're all basically interior guys. Like four out of five

1495
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 5: of those guys, I would say Andrew Steuber is probably

1496
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 5: a tackle ye like the other the other four guys

1497
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 5: are interior guys. So yeah, it's probably an indication that

1498
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 5: they didn't love chasing Hines, But it's also an indication

1499
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: that they're worried about the guys as they have the

1500
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 5: starters that they have. David Andrews is what thirty.

1501
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: One thirty one injury issue issues.

1502
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 5: You know, And I just do I think Cole Strange

1503
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,440
Speaker 5: is going to lose his starting job. No, I don't,

1504
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's just something that you just

1505
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: dismissed is out of hand.

1506
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: But you've got somewhere to go now if you had

1507
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: had to bench him again, And I mean and if

1508
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: you're thinking about replacing Andrews, I think correct me if

1509
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. But didn't he get pulled from a couple

1510
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 3: of games that Andrews was missing from, So you know,

1511
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: maybe you wonder how reliant on the veteran was he

1512
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: to make him look better last year?

1513
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: That was the narrative Scott and Florence Mass speaking of

1514
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: Cold Strange.

1515
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 5: Florence Mass, I'm not familiar with Florence Florence.

1516
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: There is a lot of criticism of Belichick as a GM,

1517
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: which I think is deserved. However, a fair amount of

1518
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: that criticism recently's focused on the first round selection of

1519
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: Cole Strange in last year's draft as evidence of Strange

1520
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: as a failed pick. People will often point out that

1521
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: he was benched a few times during the past season.

1522
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: I find this criticism annoying. Everyone knew that Cole Strange

1523
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: was an athletically gifted but undersized guard from a small school,

1524
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,839
Speaker 2: and that was and that he was likely to experience

1525
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: some growing pains before reaching his full potential. Plus he

1526
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: was thrown into a dysfunctional offense without an experienced line

1527
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: coach or coordinator. My memory is that the offensive line

1528
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: itself was unsettled for parts of the year due to

1529
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: injury or poor play among the other players. Strange is

1530
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: reported to be a hard working athlete, and he seems

1531
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: to be a decent human being. He himself has said

1532
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: that he needs to gain weight during the offseason, and

1533
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that he's on a training program to achieve

1534
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 2: that goal. Criticize Belichick as a GM all you want. Myself,

1535
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: I've never recovered from the dominic easily pick but to

1536
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: criticize Cole Strange as a player at this stage seems stupid.

1537
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 5: Well, he was a first set. Let me ask you something.

1538
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 5: Is it stupid to credit Marcus Jones as a player?

1539
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 5: To credit him, Yeah, to say he's a good player,

1540
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 5: is that stupid? Now say I'm happy with that player?

1541
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 14: No?

1542
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 5: Is that dumb?

1543
01:10:59,360 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 2: No?

1544
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 5: No? Why because he is? Because he played well? Yeah,

1545
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 5: And it's just as it's just as fair to suggest

1546
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 5: when a guy doesn't play well.

1547
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: But it would be stupid to say that's how Marcus

1548
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: Jones is going to be for the rest of his career.

1549
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 5: No one's saying that, and neither was anybody saying that

1550
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 5: Cole Strange can't play. But they say he struggled as

1551
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 5: a rookie and he was overdrafted Paul, and that's a

1552
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 5: bad pick. Some people say it's a bust. Yes, it's

1553
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 5: not a bus. Year one was a bust.

1554
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: That's not what I just said.

1555
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 5: And you know it, Okay, Well what do you think

1556
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 5: is going to happen? I don't think he's gonna end up.

1557
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: Being like a first round but I think I think

1558
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 2: it's just as stupid to say I know he's going

1559
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: to be a pro bowler as I know he's going

1560
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: to be a bust. Same way with Marcus Jones.

1561
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 5: It's not just as stupid to say the second part

1562
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 5: because he was a bust in year one. He wasn't

1563
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: anywhere near a force.

1564
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: Well, he wasn't a bus.

1565
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 5: He was fred. Oh, come on for one year. Like,

1566
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that ends his story as a player.

1567
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 5: I didn't say, you said, but in year one he

1568
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 5: was in and out of the lineup due to performance.

1569
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: And I like the email or said we knew he

1570
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: was going to struggle.

1571
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 5: No I didn't. I don't pick first round picks as

1572
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 5: plug and play guys that I know are going to struggle.

1573
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: Listen, listen.

1574
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 5: Then it's a bad pick. It's not one of the

1575
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 5: two has to be true.

1576
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: Well, we'll know it's a bad pick in a few years,

1577
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: but right now, you can't say.

1578
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 5: This is my whole thing about offensive Lineman. It's why

1579
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 5: you can get away with taking offensive Lineman because no

1580
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 5: one will ever call him a bust.

1581
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: You just did.

1582
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 5: I will, but no one. Paul is the only one. Now.

1583
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 5: Now he's going to completely change the narrative of this argument.

1584
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: Be snucky, make fun of me. Everybody laughs at him,

1585
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: and then we're just people. Do not declare offensive Lineman

1586
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 5: as readily bust you as Nikhil Harry. You are not

1587
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 5: on It was Nikhil Harry a bust. Youre not Nikil

1588
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 5: Harry a bust. Okay you was it okay to call

1589
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 5: him the bust after one year?

1590
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: No?

1591
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 5: Okay, it was your consistent.

1592
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: It's not okay.

1593
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 5: What do you think he's going to be cold strange?

1594
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a fine NFL player, Okay,

1595
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't okay, I don't think he has fine NFL skills,

1596
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 2: you know. I think I think he's gonna be okay once.

1597
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 5: He I don't think he'll be as good as Isaiah Win.

1598
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: I disagree with that he just stays healthy.

1599
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could win that. I'm hesitant to call him

1600
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: a bus put me in the in that anti one

1601
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 3: just because he played every game. I mean, but I'm calling.

1602
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 5: Him the bust today. I'm saying he's going to be

1603
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 5: a a bus. Last year was a bus. I don't

1604
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 5: think there's any argument against that. But I think he

1605
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 5: is trending to that direction, not to the All Pro

1606
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 5: A Pro Bowl. Sorry, and Fred said Pro Bowl, And

1607
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 5: I would.

1608
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 3: Say to the emailer's point, We've seen some video of

1609
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: him this offseason. He looked the same size to me,

1610
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: so you know, I don't know what we were expecting,

1611
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: but I do think that he'll be like he's a

1612
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: target because he was overdrafted. But I think it is

1613
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,839
Speaker 3: worth pointing out.

1614
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll always be a target, but he's always going

1615
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: to be considered to be fine because he's always going

1616
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: to be playing until he's no longer a Patriot, just

1617
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: like Isaiah Winn did, who was never really good but

1618
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: was always considered to be fine.

1619
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 5: But that's not until until they decided I don't want

1620
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 5: to playing anymore. When he got hurt.

1621
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: That's not true either. I think when problem was as

1622
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: much as I want to an attitude as his ability,

1623
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: I think when he he had good games, you know,

1624
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a.

1625
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 5: Talent, had better games than Cole Strange did.

1626
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a talented player, and I think

1627
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, it goes beyond.

1628
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 5: But like to your point, like, this is one of

1629
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 5: those things that we'll argue about, probably for three years,

1630
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 5: because that's that's what you and I do, and we

1631
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 5: enjoy it. You're going to say he's going to be

1632
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 5: a fine player, and I'm going to say he's fine,

1633
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 5: and we're going to mean totally different things. Right, Like,

1634
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 5: to me, fine for for a first round pick is

1635
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 5: an indictment.

1636
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: No, I listen, and I think he'll be fine.

1637
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: I'm not because he's a guard and it doesn't matter.

1638
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that they should

1639
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: have picked him where they picked him.

1640
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 5: But that's all the emailers. But that doesn't mean fighting

1641
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 5: against that's all the emailer is fighting against people saying

1642
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 5: that it wasn't where he should have been picked and

1643
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 5: you agree.

1644
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

1645
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: So he's he's arguing with you and me because we

1646
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: agree on that.

1647
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: Yes, it is part of it all back around that was perfect.

1648
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like this is not about like the guy can't

1649
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 5: tie his shoes and get on the field, Like I

1650
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 5: think that it's just readily apparent when a skilled position

1651
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: guy can't like Nikhil Harry, Like it never looked Mike,

1652
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 5: the first day of training camp was the year before

1653
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: you got here, right, Yeah, like the like you could

1654
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 5: see it in the spring, like this guy I can't play.

1655
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 5: It will never look like that for an offensive lineman

1656
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 5: as long as he's playing. No one will ever say

1657
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 5: that because they don't know.

1658
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: I know.

1659
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: And that's and that's the same thing like watching the

1660
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: three guys that they just drafted, I'm like, what's wrong

1661
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: with these guys? These guys look fine, Like I don't

1662
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 3: you know, Like I could watch Cole Strange's film and

1663
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: be like, I don't know. They all seem like they

1664
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: got a nasty attitude. They love to throw guys down

1665
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 3: to the ground.

1666
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 5: Because an average guys like you and me will watch

1667
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 5: City Sow and Michael Owenu and not see the differences.

1668
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to bring Greg Bridard on the show.

1669
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: That's all correct.

1670
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 5: Bring Greg and they can have their little talk and

1671
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 5: they and they can break it all down and they'll

1672
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 5: tell you why you're wrong. They're little talk, little talks

1673
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 5: of monstrous. They'll have their talk and they'll tell you

1674
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: why you're wrong and.

1675
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: Hand when you what was it?

1676
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 5: Hand placed violence, footweark quick strike, drop and drive, pin

1677
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 5: and pull, Like I mean, I can. I can make

1678
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 5: up terms too, Like it doesn't mean that I know

1679
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 5: how to use them.

1680
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: You know one show, you know how we used to

1681
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: do things to set up Eric, Like, you know, we

1682
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: should do a show where we come on and we

1683
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: come up with all these fake terms and see like

1684
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: if if Evan like chalk like says you guys don't

1685
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, or if he's like nodding

1686
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: his head.

1687
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: Like we do like cover twelve. Yeah, like I mean,

1688
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: look like cover twelve to me, make up some coverage

1689
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: or something.

1690
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: Just yeah, he was doing it.

1691
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 5: There's only eleven guys in the field.

1692
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: You know, he was doing a hybrid Z zone, you know,

1693
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: where he's asked to battle.

1694
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 3: Look like it to me, for it, you know, look

1695
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 3: like it to me.

1696
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 5: But like, you know what My point is, my my

1697
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 5: snart narc aside. My point is average football people like

1698
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick will look at tow lineman and certainly be

1699
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 5: able to tell you the difference average guys can't. But

1700
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 5: you can watch two wide receivers average guys and say, yeah,

1701
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 5: that guy's much quicker in and out of his breaks,

1702
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 5: that guy is much better hands. That guy just looks

1703
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 5: like he's like you could see it. Yeah, that's my

1704
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 5: point that I'm trying to make.

1705
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's see. Somebody earlier emailed about what an improvement having

1706
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: Evan on the Draft show was I. He says, after

1707
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: what felt like a lifetime of dealing with Eric Scalavino's

1708
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: lack of caring at all about football and pompous arrogance,

1709
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,480
Speaker 2: you had an opportunity to replace him.

1710
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 5: Okay, is happening again all the like, Okay, I just

1711
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 5: want to stay as.

1712
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 2: I sit here, emails get deleted.

1713
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1714
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 5: I love the fact that we had Evan on the

1715
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 5: draft coverage this weekend for entirely different that I that

1716
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 5: I won't share on publicly. But if we're going to

1717
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 5: criticize the guy who left for his pompous arrogance and

1718
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 5: we're not going to point out the fact that the

1719
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 5: guy had that would replace him had a temper tantrum,

1720
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 5: because he's insisting that he knows more about football than

1721
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick and wants Bill Belichick gone. That's to me

1722
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 5: a little bit of a disconnect. And I said all

1723
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 5: this with Evan by the wag, like you want Bill,

1724
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 5: like you said it to him right on the show,

1725
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: but you want Bill out. You think you know more

1726
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 5: than Bill, and he didn't die it, right.

1727
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: That's true.

1728
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean the modern game.

1729
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 5: Like somehow he's convincing himself. The picks that he agrees

1730
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 5: with are Mac gropicks.

1731
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1732
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 5: Did you notice how we tried to do that too,

1733
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 5: Like the Gonzales pick. It's clearly no, no, no, no, you trade

1734
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 5: down from fourteen to seventeen to get picked one twenty.

1735
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 5: That's like a picture of Belichick in the draft dictionary, right.

1736
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 3: It's like us doing the profiles they rotate. You know,

1737
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,959
Speaker 3: Mac gets a pick, I get a pick, Steve Belichick

1738
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 3: gets a pick, and except for.

1739
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 5: Billy O gets not.

1740
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: And again you're just I go back to what you

1741
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: Rod Mayo said after you know, after the pick, we're

1742
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: glad that coach made the pick because I know the

1743
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: room was thinking he's going to trade down again. Yea,

1744
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, give us or something give us our guy. Yeah,

1745
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: Bill and Vista, California. The drafts over and we can

1746
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: now impatiently wish for the preseason to be here before

1747
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: we start impatiently wishing for the regular season to get here.

1748
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: I just saw I just found out. Remember when we

1749
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: impatiently waited for the AFC Championship game.

1750
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: No, I hated that that was the worst part of

1751
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: the effort.

1752
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 5: Those are those of the I do I do When

1753
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 5: when Andy and I would argue with Fred about the

1754
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 5: things that were worry someone on the roster, and Fred

1755
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 5: would get mad, saying like, what are you talking about? No, no, no, no,

1756
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 5: you gotta stand in We're talking about things that could

1757
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 5: potentially prevent them from hosting the ABC Championship right, And

1758
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 5: Fred would be oh, okay, all right.

1759
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: I just saw and found out that Mapu is a

1760
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: nephew of Junior. Say, I'll call it wishful thinking, but

1761
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: now I have a higher hope for the kid. It

1762
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: had me thinking, what are some NFL royalty talent you

1763
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: wish worked out or some you see as being future

1764
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: stars like Marvin Harrison Jr.

1765
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 5: Oh god, uh, I find that an odd like you

1766
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 5: gonna hear on Teddy Bruski's kids Paul, and you find

1767
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 5: out that kid Map who is related to makes you

1768
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 5: feel better about the pick.

1769
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: He only made. Well, you know, pedigree, it can't help

1770
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 2: you met him once. No, I know, but it's the blood,

1771
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: it's the gene. It's that's what he's talking about.

1772
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 5: Was he really like an uncle? I know, I know,

1773
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: love that like his father's brother.

1774
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 3: Like it's one of those lifelong friends kind of thing.

1775
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: Right, this is your uncle, Junior.

1776
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: I got a few of those, you know, like friends

1777
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: of ours. It's called Mike. I'm like, you're not really

1778
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 3: your uncle.

1779
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, these emails, why they I don't know what. Something's

1780
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: going on. Somebody has they don't like you. Somebody has

1781
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: access to this thing or something. I don't I don't

1782
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: know what the hell.

1783
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 3: I'm deleted on my end.

1784
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: No, but this is supposed to be my box, so

1785
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone could even get in here.

1786
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 3: Somebody's messing with Fred's box.

1787
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 5: Fred's box alone, let's see Matt's like.

1788
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Jake and Bendingo Australia. After letting the draft sit for

1789
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: a couple of days, I finally come around to how

1790
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: we drafted. Now to the offense. We have Billy Oh

1791
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: in the building. We acquired minimal offensive pieces through the draft.

1792
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: We are putting a massive amount of faith in Billy

1793
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh and him turning the around with what we have

1794
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: come the end of the next season, we make the playoffs. Excellent,

1795
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: we missed the playoffs. Who is getting thrown under the bus? Then?

1796
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: MATC for not producing, Billy Oh for not getting the

1797
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: team where we needed, or do I say it? Dare

1798
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: say it Bill Belichick for not setting the team up

1799
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: to win.

1800
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 5: So you think that they have to make the playoffs

1801
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 5: or someone's gotta next year? Yeah, someone's got to go.

1802
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he's who gets the blame.

1803
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on what it looks like.

1804
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 5: I think if you only one out of those three

1805
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 5: that even has a chance to not be around, is

1806
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 5: Mac really? Yeah?

1807
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's something to think about with the fifth

1808
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 3: year option. I mean, I'd love to.

1809
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 5: Be in a fourth year though, Like, you just have

1810
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 5: to make the decision, right, That's what I mean?

1811
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Though?

1812
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 3: Like is that?

1813
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Mac will be back next year too,

1814
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 5: But I mean Billy Oh's not going anywhere, and Belichick's

1815
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 5: not going anywhere unless something happens. They're not getting rid

1816
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 5: of those two guys unless something happens, like yeah, with

1817
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: them individually, like they did something. It's I mean, it's

1818
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 5: that's just how I feel. I don't get anybody's going away.

1819
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: It's just getting interesting. I mean, it's getting the teams

1820
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: are getting good jets. I mean, it's it's going to

1821
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 3: be quite the year.

1822
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: Let's see. Paully p says I said nothing. So with

1823
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: plenty of time to go back over the draft and

1824
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: think about the Patriots picks, I'm sold on every pick

1825
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: but two. No matter how hard I try, I just

1826
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: cannot like the key on White pick. Every play I

1827
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: watch just seems to take away way too long to

1828
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: get to the ball carrier. I don't see him being

1829
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: very effective getting his hands on athletic quarterbacks in today's NFL.

1830
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: He looks like he's running in sand way too often.

1831
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: Even though I watched all his snaps against Broderick Jones

1832
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: and White won a lot of the pass rush reps,

1833
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: he was nowhere close to getting to the quarterback in time,

1834
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: and Jones had no problem moving White in the run game.

1835
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 2: I think White has bust written all over him. The

1836
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: second pick is kind of a combination of two picks

1837
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: close together. Hearing today that they want to try Sao

1838
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: at tackle, I can't help but think the right move

1839
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: in the fourth round would have been to take Dewan

1840
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: Jones instead of Jake Andrews, and then either take Andrews

1841
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: at one seventeen instead of Soo. Jones has physical gifts

1842
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 2: that Sao just doesn't have and will be a starting

1843
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: right tackle at some point this season in Cleveland, like

1844
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 2: Evans said, if you want a receiver, just draft a receiver.

1845
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: If you want to right tackle, draft a six 't eight,

1846
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty nine pounds freak, not a guard

1847
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: who it was a long shot to even play the position.

1848
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: All in all, I love the draft.

1849
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: However, I just don't know, I mean, took it how

1850
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: far to want Jones dropped in so many It's just

1851
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: it's so on display what group think happens during the

1852
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: draft and all of our like mock drafts and our

1853
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: big boards and it like it. It's always kind of

1854
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: the same guys, you know, and a lot of the

1855
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: guys they drafted were nowhere on my radars certainly, And

1856
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it's hard. It's hard to know

1857
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: what the heck they're gonna do.

1858
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 5: But did someone come out and say that they were

1859
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 5: intended on playing soo at tackle?

1860
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: No, I think that was a breer thing, a breer

1861
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 3: in his notes, just saying that he had played there. Well,

1862
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: he played that, but like that maybe that he could that.

1863
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 4: Was just a I get the sense that they might

1864
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 4: work them out at tackle. What is it this summer.

1865
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 5: Like he played it. He's Eastern Michigan, right, Yeah, he

1866
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 5: played at Eastern Michigan. Hasn't played tackle.

1867
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: In four years I think nineteen.

1868
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 5: I thought it was eighteen.

1869
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they'll put him there in shorts and see

1870
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: what he looks like if he looks the part Evan's back.

1871
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 2: How was Juju good?

1872
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 5: Yeah? I was a little faster than Myers.

1873
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 4: He said he's the slowest receiver on the team, not

1874
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 4: even kidding. He was kidding, obviously, but he might be Anyways,

1875
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 4: he was great.

1876
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1877
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 4: I think he genuinely seemed excited to be here, was

1878
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 4: maybe even a little bit surprised at how much he

1879
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: likes it here already. I think you know the thing

1880
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 4: that he said that stood out to him or that

1881
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 4: has really made it great here is just the people

1882
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 4: on the offense, the receivers in that receiver room. I

1883
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: think he's had a good time with a lot of

1884
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 4: those guys, and they've had a good time together off

1885
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 4: the field. At Celtics game last night, bowling a couple

1886
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. The one thing that he did mention

1887
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: was that, you know, in the free agency process, that

1888
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 4: that Belichick was a big draw for him to come

1889
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 4: play here, and that the Patriots had met with him

1890
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: a little bit in the pre draft process come out

1891
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 4: of USC and it all kind of came full circle

1892
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 4: this offseason when they showed interest. But I think the

1893
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 4: one thing that maybe surprised me a little bit is

1894
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 4: I thought we were maybe we're going to get this

1895
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 4: Judon type personality, like big, loud, you know, a lot

1896
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 4: of energy, and he he had had swagged some personality

1897
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 4: to him, but he wasn't very loud or demonstrative like

1898
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 4: like Judon is. You know, Judon's a is he.

1899
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 3: Silly at all? That stuff is just that J's silly.

1900
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 4: A little bit. You know, he was joking around with us.

1901
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 4: You know, someone asked him, what would you say are

1902
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 4: your best attributes at as a receiver? And he was like,

1903
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 4: slow can't block, you know, like he was messing with

1904
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 4: the reporters. So there was a little bit of that

1905
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 4: going on, I think. And he did mention Joe Toney

1906
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 4: and being somebody that he really enjoyed playing with in

1907
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 4: Kansas City and maybe had a few conversations with with

1908
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 4: Tuney about coming here to New England before he he

1909
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 4: signed here. But like I said, he genuinely seems almost

1910
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 4: taken aback about how much fun he's having here. I

1911
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 4: think all the noise outside the building is always that

1912
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 4: it's so serious and they don't have any a good time,

1913
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 4: they don't have any fun, and I think he's a

1914
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: little bit surprised at how much fun he's having. And

1915
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the one thing he did say

1916
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 4: about the playbook was that the he thinks that they

1917
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 4: deserve a college degree for the amount of studying that

1918
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 4: they have to do to learn this playbook. And at

1919
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 4: first when I said that, I was like, okay, But

1920
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 4: then what I thought about it some more. I didn't

1921
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 4: hear a lot of that last year about the playbook

1922
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 4: and how come you know, oh it was it's so complex,

1923
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: and you know, he said he's making flash cards.

1924
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: But it is interesting that he's saying that coming from

1925
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City, which I would think would have a really

1926
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: thick playbook.

1927
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he said that, you know, he's going to

1928
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 4: go home after this and actually study more and put

1929
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 4: a couple more hours in, And he said he's making

1930
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 4: flash cards and he's doing all this this homework to

1931
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: learn the offense. So he definitely talked about the complexity

1932
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 4: and the just the volume of the playbook, which, like

1933
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 4: Mike just said, I didn't hear any of that last year.

1934
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 4: So I think this is a whole different ballgame as

1935
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 4: we would expect with Bill O'Brien. It's a we got

1936
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 4: a PhD playbook. Again, this is not this is not

1937
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 4: just playing fast.

1938
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: Right, Paul? Did you make it of monsters and men? Reference?

1939
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 5: I did?

1940
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh? What was it? I did? David wants to compliment

1941
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 2: you on it?

1942
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 5: Oh, I forget now we're talking about monsters.

1943
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 2: What's this of monsters and men? What is that?

1944
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 5: Like a obscure group?

1945
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not a kid's movie. I know of and men?

1946
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 5: But it's a song that was like a top It

1947
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 5: was like a Top forty song. I can't think of

1948
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 5: it now, all.

1949
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 2: Right, But you're just throwing out references.

1950
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 3: What is it of monsters?

1951
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Of monsters and men? Let's get back to the a

1952
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: stick of hotline eight five five pass five.

1953
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 5: The name of the song Little Talk was one Little

1954
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 5: Little Talks is the top forty.

1955
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: And Fresno. What's up? Speed?

1956
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 21: Hey, how's it going?

1957
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 5: Uh?

1958
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

1959
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 21: That that uh cole Strange talk before was pretty interesting

1960
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 21: even it was before while you were away. But yeah,

1961
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 21: like that, like I wonder how Menkins would have looked

1962
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 21: in the Patrios offense last year. It's kind of like

1963
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 21: a difficult comparison because what Megan's was was his first

1964
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 21: year five am I right? Yeah, so like that, obviously

1965
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 21: he's on a better team all around.

1966
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 5: So but I mean it's not even a comparison.

1967
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 21: It's kind of like hiding.

1968
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1969
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 21: No, they're both first round picks at that position.

1970
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 5: No, but I'm not talking about we're talking about two

1971
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 5: entirely different things. I'm saying that you can play as

1972
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 5: a rookie offensive lineman and you're you're not really going

1973
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 5: to get a lot of criticism unless Bill does what

1974
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 5: he did with Cole Strange and takes him out of

1975
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 5: the lineup. Ye, which tells everybody sure, you know he's

1976
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 5: he's up and down. Yeah, he was telling everybody if

1977
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 5: he just played every snap of every game, everybody said,

1978
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 5: a rock solid rookie year for Cole Strange could have

1979
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 5: played the same exact caliber. But no one's gonna look

1980
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 5: at it the same way as we looked at as.

1981
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 5: My comparison continues to be Nikhil Harry, who from the

1982
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 5: moment he stepped on the field as a patriot, did

1983
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 5: not look good. He didn't look smooth. You could see it,

1984
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 5: like even idiots like me, I was actually crediting you

1985
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 5: for your pin and poll pop, you know, your little

1986
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 5: violence with the first step, Like I said, leave that

1987
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 5: what that's this is how we got I go leave

1988
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 5: that to the little talks or Greg and Effan. And

1989
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 5: that's when I said, little talks of monsters and men,

1990
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 5: that's what That's how I came That's how that came up.

1991
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, most most people just watch yeah, and

1992
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 5: like I will absolutely put myself in this category. I'm

1993
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 5: not watching the offensive lineman breaking it down. Bill can

1994
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 5: watch Michael Owenu and Cole Strange and tell you every

1995
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 5: reason why MICHAELWNU was more effective at guard last year

1996
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 5: than Cole Strange was. I can't other than when they

1997
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 5: just get beat on a blitz, you know, like but

1998
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 5: on I can watch Nikhil Harry and tell you why

1999
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 5: he wasn't as good as Jacobi Myers when they were

2000
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 5: both rookies.

2001
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, he Cole Strange had a good end of

2002
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 4: the year. I thought he finished well and that maybe

2003
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 4: is optimistic in terms of what he'll come in in

2004
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 4: year or show at a decent end of the season,

2005
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 4: really good game against Pittsburgh early on.

2006
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 5: He'll be fine.

2007
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 4: But there was some I think the conversation around him

2008
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 4: and this the outward Oh you know they hit on

2009
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 4: Cole Strange. I would calm down with that. Oh, you

2010
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 4: can't say that his rookie year was up and down.

2011
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 4: You cannot say that. But my I got into an

2012
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 4: eye with Paul because I said, you can't. Also, you

2013
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 4: can't say it's a bus he's.

2014
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 5: And I don't say that he's a bust now I

2015
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 5: think I don't. I said last year was bust like,

2016
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 5: but I can't say that after one year.

2017
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 4: He certainly said all the right things that the at

2018
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: the draft party the other night, I think he said

2019
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 4: that he is looking to gain about twenty pounds of

2020
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 4: muscle in the off season, because that was the biggest thing.

2021
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 4: Was just NFL power right, big guys that Quentin Williams

2022
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 4: types that were just getting right into him and pushing.

2023
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 5: Him over the forest buckner.

2024
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are those guys. Get him a handful, that's what. Yeah. Yeah,

2025
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 4: the run game. I think the bigger concern was balanced

2026
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 4: and ending up on the ground a little bit too

2027
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 4: often because he's being over aggressive and trying to get

2028
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 4: out of his stance and firing out and then he's

2029
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 4: getting head over heels. But yeah, the power rushers, the

2030
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,759
Speaker 4: interior guys pushing him the pocket was a big problem.

2031
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: I said, thanks, I saw him. We saw him at

2032
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 3: that party, and I said, I don't really, I don't

2033
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 3: see twenty pounds on there yet. Maybe that's a work

2034
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 3: in pro totally.

2035
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 4: May, totally May to May.

2036
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 5: You can learn nutrition at the NFL.

2037
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: Get those milkshakes, skinless Chicken. Anthony writes in I assume

2038
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: that in the second tenure of Josh McDaniels as OC,

2039
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: they'll probably let Josh hand most of the offensive game

2040
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: plan and probably just gave the thumbs up most of

2041
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: the time and trusted him. Do you feel he will

2042
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 2: have the same trust now. I'm quite sure he has

2043
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 2: had his hands all over last year's disaster. So now

2044
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: will he focus more on defense, excuse me and the

2045
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: overall team little Jersey Mike's coming.

2046
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2047
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 3: I just the thing that I that interests me is

2048
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 3: I think that the changes to the offense last year

2049
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 3: obviously were Bill's decision, and I think the philosophical changes

2050
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 3: not so much like what did you install it, but

2051
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 3: like the overall like down the field, trying to make

2052
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 3: big plays. Like philosophically, I felt like there was an

2053
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 3: evolution last year as much as there was they put

2054
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 3: Maddy p in charge. So I just wonder how much

2055
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: of that Bill influence of you know, is it him

2056
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 3: saying to compete right now in this league, we have

2057
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field consistently. That's the

2058
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 3: only like because to me, every time we went out

2059
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 3: there in training camp, those were the only plays that

2060
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 3: they that they made, and that was never really the

2061
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 3: case in previous training camp. So I don't know. I

2062
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 3: assume to Evan's point about the play thing, that Bill

2063
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 3: O'Brien just came in and took the last year's playbook

2064
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 3: and dropped it in the trash and he's like, this

2065
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 3: is mine now. But I still would think that Bill

2066
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 3: has some kind of influence on what direction he wants

2067
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 3: the offense to go with Mac.

2068
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 2: And certainly like Bill needs to talk to, you know,

2069
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: all the offensive coaches that were here last year to

2070
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 2: find out, Okay, who's good at what?

2071
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 5: Who do I have here? Yeah?

2072
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 2: You know, like who are the players that I have

2073
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: to work with? And like you can't throw out everything

2074
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 2: from last year.

2075
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 4: You know, so throw it all out, every last piece

2076
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 4: of it.

2077
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, you know, there's basic players that

2078
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 3: are going to be in anything.

2079
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 4: Light it up like a match and say a prayer.

2080
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 3: But you know, even go back to like the selection

2081
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 3: of Thornton, you know that's not really usually one of

2082
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,799
Speaker 3: their kind of guys. Like I just I don't connect

2083
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 3: all of that. Just to Matt Patricia, I think that

2084
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: that was, you know, part of a bigger sea change

2085
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 3: that's going on offensively, or at least that they're trying

2086
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 3: to employ that they think they need to do to

2087
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: you know, get from whatever that Josh's version of the

2088
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 3: offense was to you know, something different, whether that's mac

2089
01:34:59,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 3: whether it.

2090
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of Macro in there too, I

2091
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 4: think because every time we talked to Macro about evolution

2092
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 4: in the sport, I think he talks a lot about

2093
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 4: speed and athleticism and that being where the league is going.

2094
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of their draft picks all

2095
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 4: over the field, not just offense but defense too, have

2096
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 4: pointed to I mean, Gonzalez runs a four to three

2097
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 4: eight MAPU is this new age hybrid linebacker safety type

2098
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 4: of player. So I think a lot of their moves

2099
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 4: have been to get faster everywhere.

2100
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Audrey says, great draft shows again, I will always listen

2101
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: to you live. My top choice, and Mike was even

2102
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 2: funny this year, much less stress.

2103
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 3: Audrey's always out my butt.

2104
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I must say, you may finally have some competition.

2105
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: The Rich Keith Live Draft party was excellent, featuring opals,

2106
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Andy and Fitzie. They were jacked up on energy draints,

2107
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: especially Andy. They didn't tip picks and reacted to each

2108
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: one live. It was hilarious, definitely worth listening to the

2109
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: day after on the podcast.

2110
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 3: This is what you guys always do? You change arm

2111
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 3: I wonder if he asked him about tides that was

2112
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 3: my fits. He's like, Oh, I'm on the Draft show

2113
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: with any and I'm like, if you can slip in

2114
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 3: something about rivers.

2115
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Head, Yeah, I mean when FITZI, you know, he's not

2116
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 2: one to have short sentences. Conciseness is not part.

2117
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Of his uh with a couple and then going.

2118
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 2: On energy drinks, I mean, forget it. I mean, I

2119
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: don't know how Rich Keith would get a word in

2120
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: edge wise.

2121
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Is that a big Andy thing? Energy drink? Andy?

2122
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 2: Is that?

2123
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

2124
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 3: He would come in familiar.

2125
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 5: Fred started it. He brought in five hour energies for

2126
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 5: all of us for.

2127
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: The Draft shows. Oh yeah, but Andy would come in

2128
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: and he'd be like bouncing off the wall. Then last

2129
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: hour he's just like he's like sleeping, you know, like

2130
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: a baby in a crib. Yeah.

2131
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: I can't imagine he would be I can't imagine low

2132
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 3: energy Andy like on a on a show.

2133
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he would crash right over in that corner

2134
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 5: where you're sitting right now. He just he would just

2135
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 5: end it.

2136
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 3: Just eat his food, pushes Mike away, eat his food

2137
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 3: and shut her down.

2138
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: Let's see Johnny. Johnny writes in Daddy, I want to

2139
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: thank you Fred for almost making me choke on my lunch,

2140
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 2: laughing at my box comment, and then Deuce and Paul

2141
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: with the future clip for Matt to edit. Evan is arrogant,

2142
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: he says, he's like Miranda Cosgrove in School of Rock.

2143
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 2: But that's why he's going to be the next chefter.

2144
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Put the work in and it shows.

2145
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 5: Miranda Cosgrove in school.

2146
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 4: I know, I appreciate the backhanded compliments, but yes, she.

2147
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 5: Eventually the principal. No, no, she's one of the students.

2148
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 4: That's true. You guys eventually get me to come around

2149
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 4: on things.

2150
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 5: She eventually comes around. Yeah. Someone, So there's another shot.

2151
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 5: I took it you. I like to be up front.

2152
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 4: With I appreciate that. At least it's not backhanded compliments.

2153
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 5: As as I said before, most of the stuff I

2154
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 5: was saying, I've already said to you, But this one

2155
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 5: was new. Someone called it down. Someone called it and

2156
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 5: said what a great addition that Evan was to the

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Speaker 5: draft shows, to which we all agreed. I agreed for

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Speaker 5: a reason I couldn't share on air, because it allowed

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Speaker 5: me to do far less. That's why that's why I agree.

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Speaker 5: But in all seriousness, he said, after years of listening

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01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 5: to arrogant. Eric not have any time for it. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa.

2162
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 5: If we're going to criticize the guy who left for

2163
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 5: being arrogant and not recognize the guy who replaced him

2164
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 5: as thinking he knows more than Belichick and being all

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Speaker 5: pissy when he didn't pick the guys that he wanted

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01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 5: to pick. And I said at the time, I said,

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01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 5: and I mean Evan will agree because I said to

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Speaker 5: him on the show, you think you know more than

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01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: Bill when you want Bill out? And you didn't disagree.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I know more than Bill, and I

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01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 4: want to make that very clear. He clearly, he clearly

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01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 4: knows more than me. I think I know enough to

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01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 4: have an opinion that's different from Bill, like maybe that

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Speaker 4: that's sort of where I come from. More of that.

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01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he knows so much more than football that

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01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 4: I will ever know in my life. But I know

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01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 4: enough about football to be like, I like this player

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01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 4: more than that player.

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Speaker 5: I always get mad.

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01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 2: One That's the Eric's thing is he didn't care who

2181
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: they picked, just pick.

2182
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 22: Want that trade down? Trade down in the first he

2183
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 22: would have been oh again. But that's one thing we

2184
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 22: always pushed back at wh people. You guys, did you

2185
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 22: know what? No, of course not. But that doesn't mean

2186
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 22: we can't have a show. I can't talk about the

2187
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 22: things that we think.

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01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I know they lost, but they play great.

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01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 5: That's what a lot of people. You know, I didn't

2190
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 5: say a lot of people.

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01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: Jason still hasn't got his T shirt. Did you get

2192
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 2: that email?

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01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 5: It's in the mail, Nathan, it's in the mail.

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01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 3: Okay, anything?

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, so I was asked to sign

2196
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 5: a shirt for somebody today.

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01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 3: That was that was That was, that was my doing.

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01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, Casey came up for didn't you T? Shirt?

2199
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, you want me to sign that

2200
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 3: for him? Why don't you get Paul's to sign it?

2201
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 5: Because the star sign.

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01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Let's see James in the Cube. Been a while since

2203
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: I've emailed, but I still listen to every show. Thanks. Yeah,

2204
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: James in the Cube. Uh you're discussion about straight She's

2205
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: got me wondering if maybe they could try him at tackle.

2206
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 2: He's got the athleticism in enough length. Always thought he

2207
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: looked a bit more like a tackle than a guard.

2208
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 2: Any chance. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I was. I mean, you know, when

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01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about what he looks like. Now I was

2211
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 3: looking at him, like, what does he look like? I

2212
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: don't know what he looks like? Maybe a center, but

2213
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 3: like he looks small for a guard. He doesn't really

2214
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: look like a tight end to me. I don't know,

2215
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 3: Like if I just had to look at his body

2216
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 3: type and what position does that guy play in the NFL,

2217
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what I would what I would come up?

2218
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 5: What did they take two two fourth round guards? Yeah,

2219
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 5: in a sixth round guard. One of them is the

2220
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 5: sports the center. The first one is so like, but

2221
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 5: why is everybody convinced that three day three picks signal

2222
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 5: is position changed for Cole Strange?

2223
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 4: Oh, we're doing it all over the map, Mike on

2224
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 4: who back to tackle? Cole Strange to tackle?

2225
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 5: But Michael wen you thing like not necessarily to move

2226
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 5: to tackle, but he's in the last year of his deal.

2227
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 5: I get that, Like, is that that probably? That probably

2228
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 5: is connected?

2229
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: Yes, And they look just like, why do we.

2230
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 5: Want to trade? Why do we want to change Cole

2231
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 5: Stranger's position? And we I don't know.

2232
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: He said going into the draft, they'll probably take a

2233
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 2: guard or two late in the draft. They did.

2234
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 4: It wasn't late enough.

2235
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 3: It wasn't late enough.

2236
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying that. I think that I'm saying that.

2237
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Speaker 3: And I think the fact that it was a primary center.

2238
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Jake Andrews did play some guard too, but

2239
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 3: he primary center I think last two seasons, so you

2240
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 3: know that one was just a little bit of a

2241
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 3: of a scratcher too.

2242
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a primary center could also play guard.

2243
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 5: More than likely.

2244
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know if they need it that early

2245
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 3: in Day three. But I mean, like we've talked about

2246
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 3: what their backup situation was on the interior. I mean,

2247
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 3: Rusie was undrafted. Guy Ferrence, I mean, you know, he's

2248
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 3: been doing it for a while, but small and every

2249
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 3: time he gets put in there, you're like, just hold on,

2250
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Speaker 3: you know. I think last year we all would have

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01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: liked to just, hey, would it be great if, you know,

2252
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: a chasing Hines last year had been that backup rotational guard,

2253
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, that kind of thing, because it just it

2254
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 3: felt like their finn all over the offensive line last year.

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Speaker 3: I still think they did too much and too early,

2256
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 3: but I do think that it was some additions that

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01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: need to.

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01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Be Rick and Dallas first fantastic draft coverage. I spent

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01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 2: all week in listening, so much better than the talking

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01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 2: heads on ESPN. Thank you. Second, I do not understand

2261
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: all these callers complaining about the draft. It seems fantastic

2262
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,759
Speaker 2: to me they got at least three day one starters

2263
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 2: because Zalas Ryland and Barringer White did.

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Speaker 5: You just na see?

2265
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Speaker 3: That's why I don't judge the emails before they get

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Speaker 3: to it.

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01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 5: That was so well doped.

2268
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 2: White who will contribute immediately one to two future IOL

2269
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: starters line sorry, and a couple of wide receivers who

2270
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 2: could end up being stars.

2271
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 5: Why is everyone complaining?

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01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 2: Name one other team other than the Philadelphia Bulldogs who

2273
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: had a draft with as many current and future contributors.

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01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 4: So that's but that's exactly what I was saying at

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01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 4: the top of the show. I agree that they got

2276
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 4: a lot of contributors from this draft. It's other than

2277
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 4: Christian Gonzalez.

2278
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 5: But you have to get contributors when you're draft your kicking.

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01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 4: Right, Like I agree though with that sentiment that they

2280
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 4: have guys that will be on the roster that will

2281
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 4: contribute in some capacity. They but how many needle movers

2282
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 4: did they get?

2283
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,600
Speaker 3: Right? But they're the bigger point which we said explicitly

2284
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 3: on this show, is that they need blue chip needle

2285
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 3: mover guys and these like you know, like that.

2286
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 2: You just put in a blue chip there? How many

2287
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 2: of those?

2288
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 3: That's what? Well, I know, but that's what I mean.

2289
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 3: But you're the potential, like you know, to be there

2290
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 3: and I didn't know that. Look any third round pick

2291
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 3: if you're trying to sell them as a blue chip

2292
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 3: right now in any one of the thirty two markets,

2293
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 3: that people are laughing at you. But and that's why

2294
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm just lukewarm. We'll see what happens with these guys.

2295
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: According to the NFL dot Com, all the AFC East

2296
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 2: teams are in the top ten rank for power ranking

2297
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 2: except the Patriots. Okay, Bill's Jets in Miami are all

2298
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 2: in the top ten.

2299
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call them and give them a pas.

2300
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Am I am I the only one that maybe this

2301
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,759
Speaker 4: is just a homer in me that is not entirely

2302
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 4: sold that this Aaron Rodgerson is going to be a

2303
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 4: slam dunk for the Jets. Am I am I on

2304
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 4: an island I slammed.

2305
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 5: I do remember having an argument with you about them

2306
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 5: last year, saying that Aaron Rodgers was checked out, and

2307
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 5: you pushed back at me for that, saying they were

2308
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 5: going to be a dangerous team in the playoffs. But

2309
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 5: now he's a Jet at home.

2310
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 4: Maybe it is. I don't but he's a year older,

2311
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 4: and I just I don't know.

2312
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a guarantee it works.

2313
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think it was a guarantee at

2314
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 4: the time that they were going to be a dangerous

2315
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 4: team in the playoffs.

2316
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 5: Like I said, but if if it does work, then

2317
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 5: I think the Jets are a contender. Yeah, if if

2318
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 5: it works, if he's if he has any Tom Brady

2319
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 5: and him at all. Now, I saw that the Jets

2320
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 5: were putting out some some video of him on field

2321
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 5: already working was part of the program. Uh, they did well,

2322
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 5: they have a new coordinator. Isn't that the rule?

2323
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: Because of that?

2324
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 5: Right?

2325
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 10: So we.

2326
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 5: Didn't Bill say that last week that we're going to

2327
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 5: be out there.

2328
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 8: But.

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01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Billy will be on the field this week.

2330
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 5: No helmets, Yeah, no, they had no helmets on. I

2331
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 5: think Billy oh said when we talked to him last week,

2332
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 5: we'll be out on the field.

2333
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 3: We were walking by him today.

2334
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I just I don't know. I looked at

2335
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 4: that clip that they actually put and it was literally

2336
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 4: one five second clip of him throwing like a slant.

2337
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 5: That was that was?

2338
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 2: That was? Didn't they put his head on somebody else?

2339
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 16: Oh?

2340
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, this was real?

2341
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 2: This was real.

2342
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 5: It was There was no nobody there. He like faked

2343
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 5: a hand off and threw a pass. You didn't even

2344
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 5: see where it was. Was that one put a head

2345
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 5: on somebody? That was Aaron Rodgers.

2346
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 2: It was Aaron Rodgers head, but it was on some No, No,

2347
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 2: this was real Rogers. But I thought someone I'm like, okay,

2348
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that work. I'm saying, does he

2349
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: have the Tom Brady in and where he's going to

2350
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 2: commit himself and say I am going to f you

2351
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 2: to Green Bay to I'm going to show you that

2352
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: I still have something left. Now, I don't know if

2353
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: he has that. I don't know if he.

2354
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 5: Has that in him. Like Tom, you kind of got

2355
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 5: a sense with that maniacal nature of his Tom was

2356
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 5: he was he was going to recommit. Yeah, I don't

2357
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 5: know if he has that.

2358
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 3: And that might be the gist of you know, not

2359
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 3: everything clearly, but why Tom Brady got six.

2360
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 5: Super Bowls, you know, and he's he was one, and

2361
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 5: and most people who watch those two guys play say

2362
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 5: that Rogers has more skill. Yeah, and I don't think

2363
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 5: there's a huge argument to be made against that. But

2364
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 5: there's a reason why one guy has five more titles,

2365
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 5: six more titles, sorry upstairs, six more titles.

2366
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 2: I do think that Rogers is going to be energizing.

2367
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna, you know, want to show his

2368
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 2: gratitude to the Jets and the fans, and you know

2369
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna want to, I mean, you know, elevate that team.

2370
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 2: And you know it's let's face it, if they make

2371
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,839
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it's because of Aaron Rodgers.

2372
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: Well you guys, he knows you guys who know this

2373
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 3: better than me. But I mean, what's the what's the

2374
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 3: difference like the media in Green Bay and how they

2375
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 3: treat you in Green Bay versus in New York and

2376
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 3: how they.

2377
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 5: Chase you in New York. Yeah, you know, And what's

2378
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 5: which is another reason why I'm not sure to work.

2379
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first slip up, they'll be all over them

2380
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 2: and they'll.

2381
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 5: Cover with this little scotch and relax. They'll be like, hey,

2382
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 5: don't tell me when to relaxe. I'll relax when you

2383
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 5: get them in the playoffs. Does that sound you know?

2384
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 5: That's the kind of adversary of relationship there can be.

2385
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:22,879
Speaker 5: Remember your boy the Yurine stream, Yeah, Meta, Meta the business.

2386
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 3: He's out of the business.

2387
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 5: He broke up journalistic rules to be out of the business.

2388
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jets broke them.

2389
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I know it's I know it could

2390
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 4: easily go the other way and they could be in

2391
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 4: the super Bowl next year. Nobody would be that shocked.

2392
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 4: But I just it's not. I feel like it's being

2393
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,759
Speaker 4: like there are a top ten team in power rankings

2394
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 4: and all this stuff, and it's it's being talked about

2395
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 4: like it's like guaranteed that that's gonna work.

2396
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: About like Brice Hall being back, you.

2397
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 4: Know, like, yeah, that doesn't move the needle for me.

2398
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 3: Well who's who's Who's?

2399
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 4: But I agree, I agree with what you're saying. I'm

2400
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 4: just saying, I don't who would.

2401
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 3: You pick them in Miami? Just take Patriots out of

2402
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 3: the take back Patriots and Bills out of the situation.

2403
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 3: Who do you think is the better team between the

2404
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Jets of Aaron Rodgers and Jets Jets?

2405
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 5: I think Miami. What I think Miami based on what

2406
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 5: their talent and the Jets. Now, now, if you're asking

2407
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 5: me who I'm going to invest in, I think there's

2408
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 5: a better chance that Aaron Rodgers plays seventeen games than Tools.

2409
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a big one, right.

2410
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 5: But if I think at full strength, I think Miami's better. Yeah,

2411
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 5: it's okay, you don't have to agree. He's like, he's

2412
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 5: disgusted that you do that. He like turned the other way,

2413
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 5: like this guy.

2414
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it's pretty.

2415
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 3: Good when you go when you go head to head

2416
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 3: with the two rosters, though, I mean they both you

2417
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: know there's some talent on those teams.

2418
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 2: Andy and Cleveland spent sixteen hours in the car this weekend.

2419
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 2: Very happy to have all the Draft show content to

2420
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 2: pass some of the time. Sorry, Alex and Tomorrow weren't

2421
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 2: on more. I think more of their energy would have

2422
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:45,799
Speaker 2: been a good addition.

2423
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 5: I have energy.

2424
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: I guess we weren't energized enough. Huh. I have no

2425
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 2: problem with tipping picks. Totally agree. The NFL presentation drags

2426
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: out the announcement, but then why awkwardly break in with

2427
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 2: audio of Goodell making the official announcement? I'm glad we

2428
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: picked first and second rounders in the first and second round.

2429
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 2: The rest is beyond my expertise to grade, but glad

2430
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 2: there are some receivers to watch in training camp and

2431
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 2: that by the end of the draft. I feel like

2432
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 2: the show PU Pages and Filtered isn't too negative on

2433
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 2: the picks overall.

2434
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 5: So I feel I think we were pretty positive on

2435
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 5: the picks. Yeah, I mean, I mean there were picks

2436
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 5: that we didn't like, but I think we were pretty.

2437
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 2: Oh, thank god we took the first receivers or Eric

2438
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 2: would I mean Evan would have called.

2439
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 5: But the first two picks, I mean, that's true. I

2440
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,879
Speaker 5: think the way the guy described that, I would largely

2441
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 5: consider myself that kind of a you know, like you

2442
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 5: get beyond the fourth and fifth rounds, I mean, you're

2443
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 5: beyond my area of expertise. Like, that's not what I'm

2444
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 5: judging a draft on.

2445
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 4: My opinion on the draft definitely changing the sixth round.

2446
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, not gonna lie, And that's fine. It didn't

2447
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 5: for me. Like, I like the first two picks, and

2448
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 5: if you get anything else after that, that's great.

2449
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 3: Well, I got a question for you. We had a

2450
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 3: call about Malie Cunningham, which she talked about a little

2451
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 3: bit curious what.

2452
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 4: The new Jeff Tom this undrafted he's literally we're getting

2453
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 4: a way. He he's a really good runner. He is,

2454
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 4: and and that's something that I think that uh, that

2455
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 4: is exciting.

2456
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 5: But for what for preseason, for a preseason.

2457
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 4: And his role on the team to me is a

2458
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 4: better scout team quarterback for guys like Lamar and and

2459
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 4: the other mobile quarterbacks they might face because they beyond that.

2460
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 4: I there's a lot of already that Jeff Thomas, you know,

2461
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 4: Patriot fandom hype.

2462
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 3: About not as much.

2463
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 4: That more about him playing receiver.

2464
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 5: I was hoping Jeff Thomas Freddy was a big Jeff.

2465
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 4: Thomas more about him playing receiver. I would say than

2466
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 4: in quarterback, you know, people thinking oh, well they could

2467
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 4: use that his skill set, the running skill set as

2468
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 4: as a receiver. I just would say that I am

2469
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 4: hopeful that we don't need to use Marcus Jones and

2470
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 4: Malik Cunningham's and those because you have actually good receivers

2471
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,839
Speaker 4: that play receiver for a living and you don't actually

2472
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 4: have to find that. The reason why Marcus Jones played

2473
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 4: offense last years because they had they needed it. They

2474
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 4: needed him to play offense, They needed him to play

2475
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 4: and make a big play impact. Hopefully Tykwon Thornton's doing

2476
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 4: that for you this year. Hopefully Juju Smith Schuster is

2477
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 4: doing that for you. Maybe one of these sixth round

2478
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 4: guys hits and hopefully one of those guys contributes, Like

2479
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 4: it shouldn't have to be that they found this UDFA

2480
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 4: quarterback that's turning into a receiver that now is making

2481
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 4: big plays for you on offense.

2482
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like Julian Edelman.

2483
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 4: Well he was a seventh round pick.

2484
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that's close. Otherwise perfect, Vincent writes in Great Show

2485
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Having Patriots Withdrawal. You're kidding me about the Rogers head.

2486
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 5: Right, Yes, well, no, I don't know that's fred.

2487
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: I saw this one clip. He's got like, you know,

2488
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: a giant head. He's got a red shirt, but it's

2489
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: got a number eight on it.

2490
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 5: Yes, that's the number he wears.

2491
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 3: That's his number this year.

2492
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 5: He wears number Eight's.

2493
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: Going to be eight now. Yeah, and he throws. But

2494
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 2: like it looked like his head was put on a body.

2495
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 5: It didn't look real to somebody, Like I told you,

2496
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 5: I don't think he's I don't think was twelve. Name is, yeah,

2497
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 5: I say, and I think eight was his college number two.

2498
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 5: But I'm not packing a call.

2499
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the whole thing.

2500
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 5: You know, the Malie Countingham thing, Like I don't care,

2501
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 5: Like it's a third quarterback that you're taking a flyer on.

2502
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 5: But I'm going to be a lot more excited selfishly

2503
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 5: watching a preseason game if he's on the field, as

2504
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 5: opposed to Brian Hoyer. You know, some fifteen year veteran

2505
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 5: who's playing against guys that Sonny's car washed. Like I

2506
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 5: want to watch a guy running around making plays. Maybe

2507
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 5: he can't play, maybe he can't throw. I don't know,

2508
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 5: but I would much rather watch that's skill set then

2509
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 5: a veteran pocket passer.

2510
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel the same way about like like the

2511
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 3: Bam Childress of the world, Like I just booty, Like

2512
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 3: I have no idea what he's gonna be, but at

2513
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 3: least I know that there's a little bit of intrigue

2514
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 3: there of Like, well listen.

2515
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely, guy, Oh, I like I wanted I wanted Dorna

2516
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 5: Thompson Robinson, you know, with a late pick. This guy's

2517
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 5: not as good as that as a passer, But like

2518
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: I think that's what they were thinking, Like, that's the

2519
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 5: kind of guy, that's the profile they wanted, an athletic

2520
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 5: mobile quarterback. This guy probably doesn't throw well enough, but

2521
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 5: you know, maybe he develops.

2522
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 2: Who knows Caleb and Knoxville. Every off season there is

2523
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: a barrage of fans he has that quotes who call

2524
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 2: her write in having complete hissy fits and think they

2525
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: know better than the coach who has been in the

2526
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 2: league longer than my favorite. Then they're so called fans

2527
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 2: have been alive. No, Bill isn't perfect, and he's made

2528
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 2: plenty of mistakes over the years and especially lately.

2529
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 5: But you're not allowed to call him out of Can.

2530
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 2: We please stop with the constant crying? I and many

2531
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 2: others listen in to enjoy some Patriot insight and take

2532
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 2: a break from life. It's beyond annoying that almost every

2533
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 2: episode of Patriots Unfiltered has twenty minutes or more of

2534
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,879
Speaker 2: fans melting down and wanting our head coach to be fired.

2535
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 2: Get a grip, people, your personal identity doesn't lie in

2536
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: a professional sports team. I'm looking at people like Eldred especially,

2537
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: just stop being a fan. Oh stop watching it.

2538
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 5: A great, great fan just stop being a fan?

2539
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Why why should anyone stop being a fan?

2540
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 5: You know, so he's made plenty of mistakes over the years,

2541
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 5: but evidently Eldred's not allowed to call in and say

2542
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 5: when he thinks he's made a mistake, right right, You're

2543
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 5: only allowed to wait till after it appears to be

2544
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 5: a mistake. Then you could say that was a mistake.

2545
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 4: Apparently we're too arrogant when we do that.

2546
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: Let's go to Chris and Scott.

2547
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 5: I just hate the idea of like, do you think

2548
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 5: you know as much of it? No, no, we don't.

2549
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 3: Hey Chris, Hey, Chris, Hey.

2550
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 19: Fred, I owe you an apology for last week. I

2551
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 19: cut you off and didn't mean to do that when

2552
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 19: we were talking about the draft and some of the

2553
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 19: decisions that Belichick's been making and what have you. But

2554
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 19: I just wanted to let you know the reason why

2555
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 19: that that happened is you don't know when you're going

2556
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 19: to be let go from the call, and you have

2557
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 19: these points that you want to get out, and uh,

2558
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 19: you know, just kind of snowballs on you when you're

2559
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 19: impassionates like that.

2560
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 2: Sure, we'll worry, we'll accept your pology, accept it.

2561
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 5: I don't even remember.

2562
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 3: But you know.

2563
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 19: That's well, I'm just saying, you know, I actually I

2564
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 19: felt so badly about it, but I asked Paul to slide.

2565
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 11: Along the apology to you for me.

2566
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 19: But I just wanted to make sure it got to you.

2567
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks.

2568
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 19: Well that being said, you know, it was funny when

2569
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 19: they were talking about Paul signing a T shirt. I

2570
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 19: thought about, you guys, what's next trading cards? Where like

2571
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 19: Van's Rookie of the Year and Mike Reeve and you know,

2572
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 19: these guys.

2573
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 3: Are calendar check it'll be in there very good.

2574
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 19: So I had a question for Evan about, uh, what

2575
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 19: I mean. It sounds like he's not a Blazer. You know,

2576
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 19: he's not a well, you know, a four to three

2577
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 19: guy or anything like that.

2578
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 20: Do you feel like he can bring anything to the table.

2579
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think that's entirely accurate. So his

2580
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 4: ankle injury is what really limited his explosiveness. But when

2581
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 4: he was pre injury, he he was an explosive player.

2582
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 4: That was pretty much the whole allure of the player

2583
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 4: at the time. He's a power slot receiver. I think,

2584
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit bigger than than most slot

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01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 4: receivers five eleven, two hundred pounds in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 4: Honestly from a skillet skill set perspective, Uh, he reminds

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Speaker 4: me a lot of Juju, Like I think there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of that type of explosiveness after the catch, gonna

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Speaker 4: catch those you know, five yard five step slants and

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Speaker 4: dig routes and things over the middle of the field

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Speaker 4: and then hopefully run with him for a little while.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I think changes between him and

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Speaker 4: Juju is Juju is much better in traffic and much

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Speaker 4: better at the catch point than than Boute I think,

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Speaker 4: honestly on film, that's probably the biggest concern other than

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Speaker 4: all the other things we talked about with the hands

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Speaker 4: and the ability to make contested catches. But he's a

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Speaker 4: little similar to that. I've compared him to Jarvis Landry

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Speaker 4: at times in the past two or even like a

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Speaker 4: Christian Kirk so someone like that. That he's an explosive

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Speaker 4: guy when he's right.

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Speaker 5: Just to show you how much, just how much talent

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Speaker 5: he has. When he was coming out of high school,

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Speaker 5: he was the number two wide receiver recruit. He was

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Speaker 5: a five star, but he was the number two wide

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Speaker 5: receive recruit recruit in the country. Yeah, his first that's

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Speaker 5: like a position that has a lot Where where would.

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Speaker 3: He have gone if he stayed on the trajectory of

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Speaker 3: his sophomore first.

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Speaker 5: Second round, they had him a lot like again, want

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Speaker 5: a lot of research.

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Speaker 2: On a lot of I love LSU.

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Speaker 5: You know that there's a lot of people that had

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Speaker 5: him in the second round with a possibility of being

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Speaker 5: in the first. Evan's not wrong, But I do want

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Speaker 5: to read the rest of that email that you got deleted.

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Speaker 3: Because I apologize.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Mark and fall River, He says, this is

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Speaker 5: the rest of the email that got cut off. After

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Speaker 5: what felt like a lifetime of dealing with risk Alavino's

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01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 5: lack of caring at all about football and pompous arrogance,

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Speaker 5: you had an opportunity to replace him after this draft season.

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Speaker 5: With Evan, I can say, beyond the shadow of a doubt,

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Speaker 5: one out of two ain't bad.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's gonna be it for this

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriots On Philip. Thanks for joining us. The

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Speaker 2: gang will be back on Thursday. I won't be on

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Speaker 2: the show Thursday. I'm gonna be busy, but you.

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Speaker 5: Guys will be I'll be here thirsty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll talk to you then.

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