WEBVTT - The 5 Second Rule with Mel Robbins

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<v Speaker 1>Wind down with Jane and Michael Colin and her radio

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Hi Friends, Hi, um so in studio today, um

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<v Speaker 1>continuing on the Mom January, I've got Kristen Breast again,

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<v Speaker 1>who is on last week's podcast, so much fun last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've got Leslie another one of my mom uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my mom besties, Mrs Leslie Crabtree the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on in everyone's life? Um, mom life. Love

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<v Speaker 1>is back in school, so that's full tricky. She just

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<v Speaker 1>turned four. She turned four on Sunday. Four was really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>What made it hard because Jolly is about to turn four,

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<v Speaker 1>so I need the prep. I'll probably cry. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seems big. It's like the last of the baby days. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get choked up. Who is a big age?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know, listen hashtag bless. She's healthy, she's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it just seems so big. And she's so

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<v Speaker 1>like well spoken, and she just looks like a little

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<v Speaker 1>person now not so baby, you know, but she's a

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<v Speaker 1>little human. Yeah. So she turned four on January five,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she woke up January six and she was

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<v Speaker 1>like guess what, And I go what And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five today. I was like, it doesn't quite work

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but bless your heart, well, Leslie, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how old are your kids? Oh god, I've got one

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to turn sixteen, So talk about big. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care how old I get. I'm slashing the tires

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<v Speaker 1>for you with please so that I can say that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it. Yeah, and you can say that

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<v Speaker 1>with an honest heart because it was me. It's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really, that's big. I don't care how old I get,

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<v Speaker 1>but my kids I still to this day can't see

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<v Speaker 1>them happy birthday without crying. And I get choked up

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<v Speaker 1>when I see them happy because you were there on

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<v Speaker 1>the O G birthday. That's right. So sixteen, so sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and in thirteen, but sixteen is just that's rough. Hard,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rough, you know. When someone said to me it's

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of letting go, I was like, oh, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>like stop, They're like, he's going to turn sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>then in two years he's going to be in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you really want me to completely have

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<v Speaker 1>a breakdown? Because they like you? Yeah? Right, whosi do

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<v Speaker 1>you want here? Yeah? Say your friends and the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of letting go happen when I when they cut the

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<v Speaker 1>cord for me, it really was a hard moment. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, you're not inside me anymore. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get rough from here on out. Well, it's true, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's just sixteen age though, well, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every single age or I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna yes, I'm going to be super sad at four,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I love who Joel is

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<v Speaker 1>coming into. I feel like I'm gonna have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time around the twelve. Are you do a bad twelve

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old? Well, that's what my parents got divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, So the flood of emotion. Yeah, Well twelve

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen with girls is also like puberty. Well, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>start my period until I was like fifteen, sixteen, sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half stick together twelve twelve, well my sixth

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<v Speaker 1>grade year. So how are you in sixth grade year twelve? Right? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like a lot, like I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of kids are starting pot or younger too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lot of stuff. Obviously, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the foods and everything that we're eating, the hormones

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't disagree. Yes, but I mean I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done the research, so I don't know. That's just my

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<v Speaker 1>own naive thinking. People pick up on hates milk. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, because my sixteen year old was a late bloomer,

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<v Speaker 1>but my now thirteen year old not. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. Was the thirteen year old influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the sixteen year old? Does that have any role

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<v Speaker 1>in how quickly they developed? That he has an older

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<v Speaker 1>brother and so maybe it moved him along because you

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<v Speaker 1>know how if you're with your friends for an extended

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, you can end up with your girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>You end up on the same cycle. Yeah, Jan and

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<v Speaker 1>I know because we have to talk each other off

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<v Speaker 1>the ledge about every third week. So does that play

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<v Speaker 1>a role? And why the thirteen year old is developing faster?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think so. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>second kid things because Jason, I mean, he's he walked

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<v Speaker 1>away faster than Jolie. He's already he already said his

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<v Speaker 1>first word, weighed faster than Jolie. He because he's watching her.

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<v Speaker 1>He's you know, just like and they want in on

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<v Speaker 1>the action. Yeah, they want to play. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>is legend, legends like put me in coach. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like on a kitchen table. What are you doing? Bro right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just words, all the words sixteen though. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be hard because you're watching them drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't you, guys, I'm emotional today. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just they seem big already. Is that it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And if I put her in a what else is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Uh? Well, my husband's been on the USO tour,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's not helpful either. But he comes home today.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been an emotional like I've had this empathetic

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<v Speaker 1>like how do soldier wives do this kind of week two?

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<v Speaker 1>Where I just don't know how because that so dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and right now it's especially dangerous. Yeah, and he's like protected,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also not trained. I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like he's red neck trained. They handed out

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<v Speaker 1>rifles and there was a terrace with antlers on his head.

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<v Speaker 1>We could probably take them down fast, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he would make it otherwise. Anyways, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think like the thought of like her getting in

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<v Speaker 1>a car and going away, you know, it's so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to It's just hard to let go anyways, Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to trust the other that's the thing, to

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<v Speaker 1>trust other drivers. Anyone else saying anything else, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's where I'm like, just right here, staying my

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<v Speaker 1>little my, my little section of safety. I've been pretty

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<v Speaker 1>honest about the fact that I think legends never moving out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I hate his wife and he's seventeen months.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's gonna be hard to let go. Have

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<v Speaker 1>any of the boys had girls yet, Like, what about girlfriends?

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<v Speaker 1>You have boys only I have two boys. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have two women possibly unless one of them

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<v Speaker 1>end up. You know, I don't. I think we're safe there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're not. That not being safe is not

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<v Speaker 1>because we got to be real political, that's true. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we know which which gender my children prefer.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, you would be supportive. Absolutely absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as far as girlfriends, again, I told you my

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old is a late bloomer. The thirteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old so quick, funny story. We were in the car

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and I was asking the thirteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old on the way home from school. I said, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buddy, anyone at school that you think is

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<v Speaker 1>cute because like, I need fair, fair heads up right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I like you, Kristen. I'm gonna hate whoever he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know your boys, and I hate these

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<v Speaker 1>girls that are with your boys. And if they if

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<v Speaker 1>they break this heart, careful, it's real hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>not to get involved in their lives. So we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the way home. Anyone cute, right, because I need four

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<v Speaker 1>warning and he's my kid that will tell me anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, no, not so much. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure it was really nobody, because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same girls as last year and last year there were

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<v Speaker 1>some girls that you thought were cute. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just friends now. I said, okay, so really nobody

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<v Speaker 1>goes no, but I'm sure they're girls who have a

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<v Speaker 1>crush on me, all right. He goes, well, last year

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<v Speaker 1>there was like ten true wait, so tell me okay, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>time out though, Sorry, that's hilarious. And Drew bees adorable

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows it, and he knows it. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked him, I said, Drew. He goes think I

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<v Speaker 1>married the adult version of Drew. He goes, well, you asked,

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<v Speaker 1>He goes well, you asked me, Mom, and I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, did you want me to lie? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, but I'm glad to see you're not

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<v Speaker 1>short on confidence. Yeah, which is great. But here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side to that conversation. Let me just play

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's advocate. Oh boy, No, I'm just saying because you

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<v Speaker 1>guys say that you're going to hate the women, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have also said that. But here's the flip side

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<v Speaker 1>of that. What if the women are just like you, strong, confident, loving, caring,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you then hate them because they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good for your son? Hater? Then yeah, I come

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<v Speaker 1>at it from a little different angle. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>I would be happy for them, you know. I want

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<v Speaker 1>someone strong and and don't they say that you end

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<v Speaker 1>up marrying someone like your mom or someone like your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would want them to be strong. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I'll still hate her a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because because you again, I'm the o G right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now there's someone who who's coming into his life

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<v Speaker 1>and is going to take him away from me. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time I know that that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be. Rip them out of my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she'd probably cut the umbilical cord and I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know it. But you know, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>want him in my life, so I'll have to cut

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<v Speaker 1>it out. It's hard. I think I have this theory

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<v Speaker 1>that boy moms are harder to work your way in

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<v Speaker 1>with that if they have one of each, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fear for Jason's wife as much as I would

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<v Speaker 1>fear well, but at least we'll have each other so

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<v Speaker 1>I can talk you off the ledge and you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk me after it. To your point, With just boy moms,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I mean, that is two women taking

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<v Speaker 1>your sons away, and you've always thinking I'm sorry. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we all feel like, but it's also like

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<v Speaker 1>you've always been the only woman, Like you're the queen

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<v Speaker 1>of the household, the only female. I don't I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how it's probably not gonna go. Well, have you had?

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask about the sex talk, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me know if we needed what sex talk? Like has

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<v Speaker 1>she had? They when you? Because I'm like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's happening early. You want to talk to a

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<v Speaker 1>four year old? No, No, but I know it's like

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<v Speaker 1>happening early and earlier for people and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stresses me out. Like my neighbors have a ten year

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<v Speaker 1>old little boy and they had to like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have a like a topical conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely we've had the conversation. Listen, I've had to have

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<v Speaker 1>I no, I've had to have conversations with my when

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<v Speaker 1>my fifteen year old soon to be sixteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>was thirteen that were not anything that I really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have, like about No, I don't know. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that it's under the breath. I don't know. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him about that, about about rape and like him

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<v Speaker 1>being raped. Oh there's there where there were headlines here,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah at a school. Um, I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was alleged, I'll let's just say that alleged

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<v Speaker 1>that some stuff went down in the locker room, in

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<v Speaker 1>the boys locker room. And so I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all over the place. The kids were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I felt like I had to sit

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<v Speaker 1>my kid down and say, listen, this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not okay, but this this could happen to you too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just a girl thing. It could happen to

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<v Speaker 1>you too. And talk about uncomfortable conversation, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had to have a conversation about oral sex, also very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I need like like that. Look, I loved what I

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<v Speaker 1>was Wait are you eight grade? How are you asking question? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I learned about an eighth grade A jill?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you now? From your little status report? Little

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<v Speaker 1>check out? And I was like, what the good? I

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<v Speaker 1>like that actually as opposed to Jerry being over there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, can't talk right now about the hell when

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<v Speaker 1>like when do kids know about I guess I know

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<v Speaker 1>oral sex? When do they know about now? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't want to know. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>sweaty and I know about that. I just explain to

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<v Speaker 1>him what it was, and I said, let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something right now. It's a very intimate act. So

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<v Speaker 1>you better make sure that you really like the girl

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<v Speaker 1>who's but what about it was servicing you? That? Just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's like the same song pretty Woman

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<v Speaker 1>just went through my head. It's just what about sex though?

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<v Speaker 1>What about sex? Like? What about that conversation the birds

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<v Speaker 1>and the bees? I made Chris have that conversation? Enough?

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<v Speaker 1>Throw something over to the other side. I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, in the car now with your kid, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the lake. We're driving separate cars, um taking

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<v Speaker 1>meaking drough you're taking Sean, and you're gonna have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you haven't by the time we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the lake, I'm shoving you in a room and you're

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<v Speaker 1>having it until you know you're not coming out a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what like a dad would say, like just

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<v Speaker 1>use a condom, like what they say. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he said. I don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just when he came in, he just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the he walked to the door and gave

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<v Speaker 1>me the little nod. I was like, Okay, we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Good and conversation and I had to have the other

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<v Speaker 1>awkward conversation with the papers rocks for that next time

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe get yourself out of the how would you

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<v Speaker 1>say it to ledge or love? Don't like this question?

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<v Speaker 1>So many years, I don't know, it's just probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to even come sooner for our kids. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's what's probably gonna happen. First on I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget this. On Mother's Day when My oldest was like six.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes and he goes, Mommy, how did babies get

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<v Speaker 1>in your belly? I'm like, oh my god, this mother's

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<v Speaker 1>dame and you're six? Do we really have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this? And I remember I looked and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you really want to know? He was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, are you sure you want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just trying to get out of it, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I really want to know. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>default and toss it up, I'm like, God, put him there?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want for lunch? I would say, like

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<v Speaker 1>when mommy and daddy, when a mommy and a daddy

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<v Speaker 1>love each other, or like when a husband and wife

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<v Speaker 1>love each other. A baby appears. I don't even go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say? I just said cows whales? It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's at school and they're like, do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>babies are? Maybe He's like, yeah, cows and whales. Put

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<v Speaker 1>him there, gets all turned around. It's like they just

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<v Speaker 1>they get in there, and they get in there is

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<v Speaker 1>one way of putting it, and they all have to

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<v Speaker 1>come out through this same tunnel. Man. Well, I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys all enjoyed the first fifteen minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>and conditions apply. Okay, So I'm really excited because today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode we have Mel Robbins on the podcast. Today. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a motivational speaker, which I just I love motivational speakers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of like Rachel Hollis Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>Mel Robbins is actually one of the biggest all time

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<v Speaker 1>motivational speakers. And how she's been able to basically go

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<v Speaker 1>from nothing to you know, selling out big arenas and

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<v Speaker 1>she has that five second rule, which I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, but I think a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>is just that motivating. And I'm curious, like, for you girls,

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<v Speaker 1>what is one thing for you that like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get motivated about? Like what is holding you back?

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<v Speaker 1>What's making you feel stuck? Is it their relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>at work? Is if your own thing? Like, what what

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<v Speaker 1>is it for you that just because I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>have I'll just say I'll start like when I'm in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I have things that I want to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to like get there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt myself. I'm like, well, I can never happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, or very similar so and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just sit in bed and then I then go

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and then obviously I've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just like, oh, let's see they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're doing it, which is funny. Like from my

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, I feel like you're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most motivated humans right now. Like you're a hustler. You

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband have the same business manager. Whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to our business manager, he's always like refers to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just like she's hustler. Jana's hustler. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I doubt myself, so I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>hustle without the doubt. There's my thing, doubtless hustle, A

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<v Speaker 1>doubtless hustle. What about you lost? I think I need

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<v Speaker 1>to I want I'm stuck in figuring out what's next

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, as my kids get older and

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<v Speaker 1>require less of me and less day to day, and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon I'm gonna have a driver, so that means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even a taxi much anymore. You're not an uber.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm like, what what do I do next?

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<v Speaker 1>And with you know, with all that I've been through

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<v Speaker 1>in the last year, I want to do something with

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<v Speaker 1>that um and figure out But and like you, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you on Instagram, all these people doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do, and I'm like, but how do

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<v Speaker 1>I get there? Because well, she was a she was

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<v Speaker 1>a TV reporter before she did that, so she's got

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<v Speaker 1>connection is that I don't have, you know, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>and so then I do nothing. M hm, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. I think fear it really

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<v Speaker 1>is just what makes me just kind of paralyzes me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I don't doubt that I could do

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<v Speaker 1>something someone else is already doing and do it differently

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<v Speaker 1>because I just really feel like we're a pretty christ

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<v Speaker 1>centered household. So for me, I'm just like, God, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a path and that's what you do, and anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>meant for you will always find you. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like our go to slogan in our house, like what's

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<v Speaker 1>meant for you always find you? So but it is

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<v Speaker 1>I just have this I sometimes this is one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I actually one of the questions I wanted to ask Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>like how do you not let what other people say?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can be as tough as you want to be,

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<v Speaker 1>But and you know, like Bernie will say, like the

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<v Speaker 1>famous quote when you're in the arena and you play

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<v Speaker 1>in the arena, and and I get all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I get really hyped up, but then there's

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<v Speaker 1>like one really hard comment and that I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not made. I don't think to be in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's always kind of kept me from doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I've always wanted to do because I can't take

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<v Speaker 1>like I could never do what Janna does. Ever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I just don't know how because

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<v Speaker 1>you're still human, right, and no matter how ridiculous the comment,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be hard for me to get past it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that would for me, it would be very unmotivating.

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<v Speaker 1>It would take all the wind out of my sales,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that I would recover, probably just

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<v Speaker 1>bag it in. And I think because I know there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of stuff out there right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Um, I would say this. It's hard because

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<v Speaker 1>I've put myself in that situation too, have criticism, but

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<v Speaker 1>also too because we have been so open, like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when I had mentioned the rule um last episode that

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<v Speaker 1>got slaughtered in the media because you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're saying someone can lie, and but I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I was even saying. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>when someone has a character defect of lying all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they just need a space to be like, oh crap,

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot. I need to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>fix it so that they're not scared and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>hold on to and they don't justify. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>just something that works for us. But anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>ever say or do, it just it just becomes But

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<v Speaker 1>I've also put that out there to be criticized, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something that I have to But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think on the scale of what you guys have put

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<v Speaker 1>out and how much you've helped, Like, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're helping people. I mean, there was I know you

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike well, I mean we've done a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>life together, all of us, and I still listen to

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<v Speaker 1>some of those episodes and I like get choked up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it's all there's just so much that

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<v Speaker 1>I can identify in my own marriage or my own life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think when you guys put out what

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<v Speaker 1>you put out, you're helping people out weighs the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have an opinion no matter what, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just always going to be that group. And I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can say that to you, but if they

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<v Speaker 1>did that to me, I would just be like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something interesting. UM. I had a therapy

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<v Speaker 1>session a couple of weeks ago or no, this was

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<v Speaker 1>it was this week. It was like yesterday, um, from

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome ar it was yesterday, UM. And you know she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we sit in this room and we talked. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about so many different things, whether it be my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>or or this person or that person. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you need to talk about you and in

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff and what you know, who you are. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she made me do this exercise I am me

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to like write out like I am this,

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<v Speaker 1>I am that, and it was so hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do because we don't ever focus on the positive

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.439
<v Speaker 1>stuff of our I was like, well, because everything I

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<v Speaker 1>was writing at first it was like negative, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can quick to talk, I can be quick to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um uh you know, say nasty things if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurt and I and she's like, you we leave

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<v Speaker 1>off the stuff that's actually like I'm kind and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good to those that you know, I trust the people,

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<v Speaker 1>I give people chances. I you know I. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like we we we don't focus on the positive of ourselves.

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And that was like so telling. And she's like, would

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you like me to write down what I see in you?

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I was just like no, no, I know,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I got so uncomfortable. She's like, why are you so uncomfortable.

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, because I don't believe it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, well that's a problem, Like it's just so

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 1>interesting that we just focus on the negative of ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and not the positives, which I think those negatives focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on that as what was pulling us down. I also

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.360
<v Speaker 1>think I feel like it's easier to focus on the negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's easier to focus on the negative and anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, criticizing your husband or what you don't like

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>about you know, your house or your I just feel

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:02.919
<v Speaker 1>like that comes easier because I don't I don't know.

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you pump yourself up, but we

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>just have to because I'll have to. But yeah, because

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>no one else is going too right. But I also

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it feels very um, I don't know,

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm a great friend, feels like I know. I'm like,

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna write that down. Yeah. I was like, well,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>what about the times that I haven't been a great friend?

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 1>And she's just like, oh my god. I do like

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>if I say anything to Jane, I'm like, Jane, I'm

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>really proud of your friend. I feel like you're doing

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a really your job friend. I feel like a really

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>brave friend. Like she's like, yeah, okay, so where do

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to lunch tomorrow, and I'm like,

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>up there, go squatted away. We sqatted away. I do

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>think being a mom, though, does start to change that

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, because I know the ways I talk

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>about myself or the way I used to talk about

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>myself I've had to change because I love our daughter

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is like literally soaking in everything I say. So when

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time putting on my spanks because

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like my spanks lanes and I'm like it's been

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>a rough holiday season, I now say, wow, this is

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 1>mama's healthy body. I'm having a hard time getting these

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>pants on instead of you know, whant you say? Like

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a badass. You know, just the way

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I talk about myself is also the way she is

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>going to learn what I think of myself and what

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>she should think about herself. And so that filter has

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>been really good for me to kind of like put

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it through her eyes because she thinks I'm like stunning.

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean she really she thinks I'm pretty. But and

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>where do you want to go for lunch tomorrow? Well,

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to talk to her. She's going to be

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's going to be an awesome guest. To

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>have on the show to help us get out of

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>our It's like for me that it's like a January funk.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Does anyone else have that hype stuck in January? I

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>love January. I was born in it, though, I do

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's like a funk though, because you everything, the

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>hype is over, you know, like the New Year's here

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're us to be some like magic switch in

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>your body or your brain where you just do everything

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>so much better and different and like yolo, and it's

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>like that's not realistic. Really, Christmas is over, the decorations

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>are down, so Leslie, Yeah, I'm going to give you

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the floor for the mama's out there that or the ladies.

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to just be a mom um and

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you can be young, you can be old, you can

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the middle. Yeah, you can be any forgers.

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>So I don't I think we talked about this the

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>last time we were together, Um about me finding out

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that I was brack of positive. Yeah. Yeah, So I

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>found out that I'm brack of TUO positive, which means

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>that that puts me in an increased risk for breast

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and a varying cancer. So one of the preventative measures

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to hopefully not get breast cancer, because that's what I'm

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>at greatest risk for, is to have your ovaries and

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Philippian tubes removed and then consider a double miss actonmy

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>So I felt like ovaries and Philippian tubes were given,

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I was done having kids, done with my family. But

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>what it does is it throws you into instant menopause.

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Like you wake up from surgery and bam, you're in

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>menou young and I am not of menopausal age yet.

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Now was I headed that direction? Absolutely? What we all

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>are Essentially, I'm yesterday. I'm closer than you guys. But um,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>with instant menopause comes all sorts of really not fun things. Um,

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the hot flashes. So I woke up last

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>night d wrenched, like, change my shirt, pe the bed.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pee the bed, but it felt that with

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>pillow was wet, my shirt was wet, my sheets were wet.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>I threw the sheets off, I changed my shirt, I

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>got back in bed because the sheets are still wet.

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm cold, and then I'm hot again, and then

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm cold. But I used, you know, I had your

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>train of thought. I was like, okay, hot flash. I

0:26:55.880 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>burned extra caloriexactly trying to go off. But what I

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>learned today was my breast surgeon wanted to check my

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>estrogen level to see how far off the cliff I've fallen.

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And let's just say that I'm fully on the floor.

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>But like, have you been because you haven't had the

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>mood swings? Have you? You would have to ask Chris.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I mean, has it been? There?

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Definitely were a little you were really afraid of that

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>part right well that and honestly, Chris would not appreciate

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>me talking about this, but obviously, but I'm going to anyway.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So but your muffs gris the way we go. Um,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>but our sex life, like, one of the things that

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>happens in menopause is dryness, and it's it's a real thing.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Like to the point where I looked him the other day,

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, your penis may as well be made

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>of tiny shards of glass, because that is exactly what

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it feels like, Chris. There is medicine apparently for that.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>There is, which is why I had my estrogen check.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He can put me on estrogen as a low dose

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>estrogen to just kind of get me over the hump

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and to help with and get you hump and to

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>help with things. And so he wanted to see how far,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>how how low with my estrogen before he put me

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>on the estrogen. Um. So the good news is is

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>even if even if he puts me on the estrogen,

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't undo what was done by removing my ovrace,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but it will hopefully get me over the hump. But yeah,

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>some days I don't know if I'm coming or going.

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which end is up. For the women

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that are you know, Bracco, or wanna find out if

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they are, what is your best advice for them? Is it?

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, obviously you made the decision and you're

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>making the decision to get your breast removed this year. Yeah,

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>so I'll have the double mostecto me this summer. UM.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>If you are worried about being brack of positive, you

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>can you can take a test. You can take a

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>genetic test. I mine was done by my gnecologist. But

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>because your mother had because my mother had ovaryan cancer.

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I lost my m to a varying cancer. She's the

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>only one in my family that we did not have

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a deep story of a variant a breast cancer. So

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>when I took the test, I was a giant apple

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and was like, yeah, take the test. It's going to

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>be negative. I'm not even worried about it. So when

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it came back positive, I was stunned. Yeah, that's overwhelming.

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It's really overwhelming because I never even worried about it,

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>not even for a second. Even after the test was done,

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even worried about getting the results back to

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the point where when my doctor called me and said

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you're positive, I was like positive for what I was,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I was such an all I thought it was going

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to be nothing. But you can take a genetic test.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>From what I understand, you can do the I think

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty three and me has a box that you can

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>check when you send your sample and as to whether

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or not you want to be tested for brecca. So

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the way you can do it. They're all kinds

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of ways, kind of dad or a relative. You can

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>find out that my dad, by the way, keeps he's

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's your dad, and I'm like, Dad, please go

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>about twenty three and me like I get it here.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>My dad like we're cool. Yeah, So you can do

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it that way, but I would just be I would

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>caution anyone don't just go Willie nearly do it because

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't unsee those results. So just know that you're

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to hear whatever comes back, because it might not

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>be Bracca. It might come back and say, hey, you

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>are at risk for rectal cancer. Wait, you can't live

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>without your recton, So you gotta know. You gotta know

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that you're ready to hear. I don't know if you

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>were comfortable saying this though, but how old are you?

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Because you look so young to me. I am forty seven. Wow, yeah,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>looking good, thank you, And I have guessed. Yeah, I'm

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>still young. It's still young, and I still wasn't in menopause. Um,

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>what's the average age we and my mom was thirty

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>four when she went through menopause. Yeah, that is really

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the average age is fifty two. Okay, I thought I

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>thought it was closer to fifty, but I couldn't remember.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the average age. Yeah, so I was definitely headed

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that direction. I'm terrified a menopause because my anxiety is

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>already through the roof. My emotions already like I'm gonna

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>be there to hold you, It's gonna be great, We're

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna get through it. We get through it all, Yeah,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>we sure are. And every twenty one days I'll remind

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you until you get to menopause, and then I'll remind

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you every four months. It's gonna be awesome. I'll love you.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break. Okay, I how do I say?

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not being mean? I've I was gonna say, I've

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>never been more excited to have this guest in studio.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But I am so so freaking excited to have Mel

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Robbins in studio. Wow, never been more excited. You have

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>very low standards, you know. I just I was there

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>guest before. No, I just have so much to ask you.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I just feel so stuck and I just need your help.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I cry, No, but I just will. First of all,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Mel Robbins, isn't like you're the biggest freaking motivational speaker

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>out there. You've completely changed your life, and I feel

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like for me and maybe some other listeners out there

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>who scroll on Instagram and see that, and it's like, oh,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it's that tinge of not jealousy, But I like, how

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>do I how do I do that? How do I

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>how do I get unstuck? And I know you have

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>your five second Rule Book, which is you know it was.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It was the name the number one audiobook in the

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>world and the fifth most read book of the year

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon. So that's incredible. Um, but how do I start, Well,

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it started at the beginning, where are you stuck? Well,

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how honest, I don't really like, Well,

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna warn you right now. You don't know if

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you want me to come back or well, I'm gonna

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>warn you right now that, um, there's no halfway with me,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and that I believe that everything happens for a reason,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and that there's a reason why you're talking to me today,

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and that it's gonna come out in terms of whether

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>or not you want to just start talking about how

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you're stuck or whether or not I drag it out

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of you, because either way, either way it's coming out,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>because that's well, that's the only way that I rolled.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I think that we talk about the things that

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we're comfortable talking about, and that means that we don't

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about the things that we need to talk about

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that are uncomfortable. And one of the things that you

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>said that already jumped out at me is that you

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>use the word jealousy and you used it in terms

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of scrolling through social media, and you know, maybe you

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>land on one of the videos that we put out

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>every single day to the millions of our followers, and

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>what strikes you is, well, here's a woman who eleven

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>years ago was at rocking bottom, drinking too much, marriage

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and crisis, eight thousand dollars in dead, three kids, the

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>definition of stuck, the definition of self loathing, and somehow

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>she pulled her together and she changed her life, and

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>now she is helping other people do that, and I'm

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>jealous of the fact that she did that. Jealousy is

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting thing because it's very powerful. There is

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the jealousy that is destructive, that is the negative jealousy

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>when you look at what somebody has and you're envious

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and you believe they don't deserve it. But then there's

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the jealousy that I think is really positive, that's tied

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>into your intuition and your intelligence, and jealousy that's positive

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>shows up as a huge like ding ding ding ding

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>ding signal from your soul that there's something in that

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that you're seeing that the other person is doing

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that's calling you forward. And so your jealousy of the

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that I hit this moment and somehow figured out

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>how to get unstuck. That means that your soul is

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell you, I feel so stuck and I

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>need you two make a decision to change your life.

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what is at the heart of the jealousy comment

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that you just said. And it's a very positive thing. Wow, yeah,

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean and and I do like because I am

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a I I hustle, like I really do hustle, and

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I you know, because I provide for my family and

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>my kids and um, you know, and and a lot

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of times when I do look at that, it's like

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to you know, which is

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>why I like I had we have this podcast, and

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to help others and trying to you know,

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>use my experiences to um guide others and help others

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that what what I've been through. But also when you

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>get stuck in your own it's like how you know,

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the for example, like you said you had crippling anxiety,

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes I feel like my anxiety takes over so

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>much of my life and the things that I want

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to do in my life because I'm too afraid to

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>go and enjoy I'm too afraid to go to um

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>fly a couple hours away to enjoy myself with some

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>friends because I'm too afraid of X, Y and Z

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>or my kids or or I'm going to have an

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>anxiety attack and I and what if I pass out?

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I live my life so fear based

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's holding me back from so many things that

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I could be enjoying or I could be growing. Yes, okay,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>so a couple of things. Let's go deep. You just

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>said that you provide for your kids. So are you

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the primary breadwinner in your marriage? Yes? Welcome to the

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>new reality. Were the women who work are the primary

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>breadwinners of their household? And welcome to something that I

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>call breadwinner resentment rage. And what that is is it's

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a dynamic that's that's happening in primarily heterosexual relationships. It

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>happened in my relationship. When you start out earning your partner,

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>there is this whole up passive aggressive thing that happens

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 1>because and I'm not saying that this is what's going

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>on in your marriage. I know nothing about your marriage.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this is what happened in my marriage, and

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>this is what happens for almost every single woman that

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>then hits that moment where you become the provider. When

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it comes to you earning more money, there is a

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>direct attack psychologically that your partner undergoes because just like women,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>this is so dupp that it's this way. But forever

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>women have been told to be good girls and to

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>look good, and you know, we're so hard on ourselves

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and on our bodies because society is prioritized youth, being thin,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>looking good when it comes to being a woman. For dudes,

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it's about being successful in providing. And so the second

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're in a relationship, were now, according to culture,

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you're the one that's providing for the family, your husband,

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>your partner. This happened in my relationship too when I

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>started out earning my husband. They go through an identity

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>crisis where they're saying that they're proud of you, but

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>they actually resent you because they don't feel successful anymore

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and they don't feel, uh, you know, like they're the

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>ones that's providing, and it ty and it creates tremendous

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>turmoil in your relationship. I would echo this is kristin

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>himel amazing um I am on my second marriage, Um,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I would echo, that's completely accurate because

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>in my first marriage I felt like I raised him

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a bit. And that's not a slam. It's just like

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a go get her, I'm a hard worker and

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I just handled and he was hanging on, you know.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>And the resentment, I'm like, dude, do something, you know

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>anything spinning a circle, put the dishes away. It is

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a really there's a lot of resentment there. I've

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 1>never heard it phrase the way you did, and it's

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>so well put because that's a real thing. And I

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>think especially in the industry that Janna and I are

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in my husband's and country music, my forever husband, if

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you will, UM is in country music, and he is

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>now he is the breadwinner. And and there's something in

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in my brain that's having a hard time accepting that,

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I'm gonna stay at home mom now

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>with a degree and a kick gas resume and a

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>career that I hug up, hung up, and and so

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>now I'm going how do I get back in? And

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>when you said stuck, it like instantly brought tears my

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>eyes from why my crain because it's that stuck feeling

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like what do what do you do? Now? You know

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I have this, I gotta lock my ship up, mel Um.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Now you don't like locking it up is not working? Yeah,

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I know. It's just like you're saying, oh, mom for

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>four years, but there's so much more, so much more so,

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing And then there's some sort of guilt's

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 1>associated with that too, is if being a mother isn't

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>enough because I'm obsessed with these human beings, probably to

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>like a really creepy degree that I've am raising, you know,

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So let me reframe this for you. You're ready, Yeah,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not. Said you're here for a reason. Today, I

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like instantly had tears and I was like, I'm probably

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna cry. Well, I'm here for a reason because where

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you're at in terms of the way that you're thinking

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 1>about things, is causing you a lot of emotional pain.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't have to be that way. What you're

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling is what every single woman on the planet feels,

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>which is the real conflict between caretaking and ambition and

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 1>being ambitious somehow having the ambition being conflict with your

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 1>role as a mother and as a wife. And what

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I want you to know is that you're not stuck.

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>What's happening is that you're really present to your ambition.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That's it, and there's nothing wrong. And you had the

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>greatest gift on the planet, which is you've been able

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to stay home with your kids. That's incredible. And now

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>what you need to know is that it's time to

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>listen to that ambition. You're not stuck at all. And

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>here's something else I want to tell you, because I

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been married. Jeez, I don't even want what year

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in twenty four years? Yep, So I've been married twenty

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>four years. And I'll go back to the breadman winner

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>resentment rage and talk to you about like what Chris

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I worked through, because what happened in my marriage

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is when we were about fifteen years and probably like

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>twelve years in. He had always been the primary breadwinner,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but his uh, he had gone into the restaurant business

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and we had put our entire life savings into it

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and it went under or was going under, and we

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>were eight hundred thousand dollars in debt. We had three

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>young kids. Leans hit the house, the bankruptcy letters started

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>to arrive. I ended up getting fired from my job.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>This was two thousand eight lousy year for everybody, huge

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>housing recession. And I did what any functioning adult would

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>do when your life starts to go down the toilet.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I started drinking like it was my job. And uh,

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>because it's easier, to, of course, numb your pain than

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it is to face it. And um, I for six

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>months straight would drink myself to sleep every night, and

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>then I would hit the snooze button five times in

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the morning, and the kids would miss the bus and

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris was already left the house because he didn't want

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to be in the house when I woke up, because

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a raging bitch, because it's easier to scream

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>at them than to get your own life together. And

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I never thought at the age of forty one this

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>would be my life. That I would be on the

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>verge of losing everything, that I would be in the gutter,

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that I would feel like the world's worst mother, that

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I would not know how to pay for groceries, that

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I was scared of the cars getting repossessed, and UM,

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I made a decision in that moment. That's when I

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>invented the five second rule. Um. The story is kind

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of crazy, but I basically one night was giving myself

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>one of those pep talks that the two of you have,

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>probably in this moment of your life, were giving you like, Okay,

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta make a change. I got to do something different.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I got like, this isn't working, but you don't know

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>what to do. You're stuck. But I was saying to myself,

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get out of bed. I gotta get out

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of bed. And then I see this rocket launch across

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the television screen, and all of a sudden, I go,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>holy cow, that's the answer to getting out of bed.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, Janna, you talk about crippling anxiety. That's

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>why I wasn't getting out of bed. The alarm would ring.

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>The first thing that I would feel was anxiety, and

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>then the depression, and then it was like one of

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>those weighted blankets of emotion, burying me alive in the bed,

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'd hit the snooze button. I didn't have the

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>resolve of the confidence to get up and face my problem,

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>so it was easier just to hit the snooze button.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But I see this rocket launch and I go, WHOA,

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>What if I launched myself out of bed so fast?

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow morning? I moved before the anxiety kicks in. What

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>if I'm out of bed before that weight of emotion

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and all of the fears trapped me there. And so

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the next morning I just counted when the alarm went

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>off like a rocket, so stupid, five three two one,

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and I stood up. And that's the that's the five

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 1>second roule. That's all that it is. You count backwards

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>five three two one when you're doubting yourself, when you're procrastinating,

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>when you have anxiety. It's the little push and it's

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>actually a brain trick that it turns out to have

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>a ton of science behind it that you can use

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to change any thinking pattern, any behavior pattern, any aspect

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of your life. And so how I used it to

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with the resentment that my husband had, the deal

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>with the the resentment I had from my husband at

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that point, and how I continued to use it to

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>change my marriage and to change where my life was

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>at when I felt so stuck, is that any time

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>there was something I needed to do, whether it was

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>not snap at Chris, I'd go five four three to one,

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and just counting backwards switched gears in my brain, settled

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my body and allowed me to talk to him from

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>a place of my values instead of snapping at him

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And five three two one, I'm picking

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>up the phone, I'm looking for a job to one.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm feeling guilty, I say, this is not serving me.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to feel guilty, And I literally five

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>seconds at a time. Decision by decision by decision changed

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the way I was thinking and changed what I was

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 1>doing in the entire trajectory of my life changed. Chris

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>started using it in the restaurant business. Five three two one.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>They're going back in to talk to their landlords five

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.919
<v Speaker 1>or three two one. They're laying people off five three

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>two one. They're meeting with investors and having the embarrassing

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations about where things are going with their business, even

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>though they want to tell a different story. And slowly

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but surely everything changes now. I ended up sharing the

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>five second rule in a ted X talk. I don't

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>know how long ago was like a ten years ago,

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>eight years and whatever. It's got twenty million views now,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's what led to my speaking career. People started

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>right to me. That's what led to me writing a

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>book about it, even though I'm dyslexic as hell. And

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that was a whole another story. But as my career

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>took off, you two and Chris stepped away from the

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>restaurant business and I became the primary breadwinner. There was

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>this totally up dynamic in our relationship where I could

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>tell he secretly resented me. And what we have unpacked

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in our marriage is that for men, the pressure to

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>succeed the profession, the pressure to be professionally successful, the

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>pressure to provide the professor, the pressure to make money,

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that is NonStop for dudes. And when you start to

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>out earn them and they're the ones in the pickup

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>line at school, or they're the ones that are watching

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you on television, or they're the ones that are being asked,

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.879
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, mel Mel is doing dynamond you know jan

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>is killing it. You know, there's something that happens for

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 1>their self confidence that they don't know how to resolve,

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and they secretly no longer see you as their partner.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>They see you as a person that's making them feel demasculated.

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And then when you come home because you've been working

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>all day and there's freaking dishes in the sink and

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the laundry is piled up, and you're like, what are

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you even doing all day that makes it even worse,

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and so they start to spiral. And so that's the

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>dynamic I'm talking about. And what we had to do

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>in our marriage is talk about, Okay, we're fifteen years in,

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>what are the roles we want to play in this

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>next chapter. And as it turns out, this was the

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>greatest gift on the planet for me and Chris, because

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Chris is the primary provider in our household for emotional stability, spirituality, love, consistency.

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>He is a way better parent than I am, um,

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>no question. And you know I used to be so

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>piste off because my ambitions I was channeling it into him.

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And when looking back, every fight he and I ever

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 1>had was me driving my ambitions at a guy that's

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>not motivated by money. And the second I started making money,

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I learned something about myself. I'm ambitious as hell and

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I love that, and I love business and I love

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the game of making money, and I love making a difference,

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and I love building and that's amazing. And I am

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>at my highest when I'm out there building something and

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.720
<v Speaker 1>making an impact. And Chris is at his highest purpose

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>right now in his life when he is caring for

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>our kids and caring for our community. And he had

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to do a lot of work to realize that that

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of providing is way more valuable and successful than

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>any amount of money in a bank account. And that's

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the kind of work that you need to do in

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>your marriage. If that resentment piece around your success versus

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>his success, your role in business, business versus his opinion

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that you should be home more and he shouldn't be

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the one Like that's all that that's got to get

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>worked out if there's resentment in your marriage. Now, I

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.720
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the guilt that you feel having

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>been a stay at home mom. The number one thing

0:48:55.360 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you could do for your children is to follow your dreams. Mhm.

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>What is it that you want most for your children?

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell me just freedom? What does that mean? Really? Trying

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>not to be emotional? Don't stop that what looks like

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>hardcore freedom? I mean part of the reason I keep

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to build a brand on this side is mm hmm, sorry, guys,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>um is to like provide this idea to our daughter.

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I grew up with two working parents, so I've

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>always just been an ass kicker. I mean I have

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>had I've had so many jobs since I was like fourteen,

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>cleaning out many refrigerators from my uncle's business at University

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of Michigan. I mean, let's talk about you know um

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and I just want her. Her name is Love. I

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:56.919
<v Speaker 1>want love to see what a strong woman looks like. Yeah,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and who's going to show as as I crabb, Who's

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna show my running well? And so it's I've been

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>building this like little bitty brand, you know. Okay, So

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 1>first of all, you're doing what every woman does. You

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>are diminishing your ambition, and you are diminishing what you're

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>up to. Who am I I am doing? I launched

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>my podcast this Saturday, which is pretty exciting for me.

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations things Now it's all good. It's just you know,

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like there's that guilt factory. Talk to me about the guilt.

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel guilty? Because it feels distracting from

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>them and I'm the primary parent. It has been gone

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so much. Okay, So it's me. We don't like have

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>nannies or babysitters on the regular really, so okay. So

0:50:54.239 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you're at the point in this pursuit of building something

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that's your own where you need help. That's what's happened.

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And the guilt is coming from the fact that you

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>don't feel deserving of having somebody come in to watch

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the kids. Well, you pursue this thing for you, Yeah,

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>because right now it's not monetarily bringing in anything makes money? Right,

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>But like what I'm doing, so what bringing in money?

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Really good point? But so what does it? Does it

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>have to bring in money to make you happy? And

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>just I love it. I mean I've had a blog.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I had a blog for like twelve years and no

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>one read it until Janna posted that I had written

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a piece on miscarriage and it just went crazy viral

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, like, my sweet little web

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>nest finally is getting some attention. You know, I don't

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>do it to make money, Honestly, I'm not. I'm not

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>super motivated by money. I just always have had to

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>make the money, like in the previous marriage and my

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>whole life to provide for myself, and I didn't have

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of help from parents or you know. So

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so here here's what I just here. You're ready, Okay,

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you're ready, A kind of salt water happening over You're good,

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>get it out of there. So um here, let's strap

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>on your seatbelt because here's the real issue. So the

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>real issue is that you have a pattern of behavior

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and belief that no longer serves you. For anybody on

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.839
<v Speaker 1>the planet that feels stuck. If you're listening to us

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>talk right now and you feel stuck, here's the good news.

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>The good news is all that's happening is there's a

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>pattern of behavior or a pattern of thinking that somebody

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>else trained you in that comes from the past that

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you're repeating right now and it no longer works. And

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the pattern of behavior that you have is I got

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to do it on my own, nobody's here to help. Yeah,

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that's really accurate. And so the simple way to change this,

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's a brand new skill that you need to

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 1>develop for yourself, is you have to ask for specific help.

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's it, because if you don't break this pattern, I

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.279
<v Speaker 1>can tell you what's going to happen. You're going to

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>sit at home and have aspirations and continue to diminish

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>your dreams, and you're going to continue to tell yourself

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a lie, which is you don't deserve help unless you

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>can pay for it yourself. And then you're going to

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 1>also secretly wish that your partner would notice and offer

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it up, and the resentment in your side, in you

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>keeping this need silent, is going to build and build

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and build, because we women love to pretend that our

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 1>partners can read our minds, and then we punish people

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>when they can't. And so all you need to do

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a really simple thing to change, and it

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>will change everything because you want love your daughter to

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:13.839
<v Speaker 1>know that she doesn't have to do everything on her own.

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.399
<v Speaker 1>You want your daughter to know that she can ask

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for help, and the only way she's going to learn

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>how to do that is by watching her mom do

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the same. We were all raised by mothers who didn't

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>ask for help, which is why none of us do it.

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You can break that pattern and that cycle by going

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to your husband with a very specific request. There are

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 1>three days a week that I need five hours out

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of the house and what I want to do on

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>those five hours are X, Y, and Z, and he

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is offering that too. You won't accept it, no, So

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't know where to send my

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.839
<v Speaker 1>copay to you for this session, but you really are

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>so enlightening. You can send it to the universe because

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, like I feel like all human beings

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:04.919
<v Speaker 1>can be explained by one simple concept. Our brains love

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to learn patterns. And so if you think that you're unworthy,

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>if you think you're not good enough, if you think

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you're unlovable, if you feel guilt, if you procrastinate, those

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>are just patterns and it's somebody else's bullet that they

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>put in your mind a long time ago. And when

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you identify that they were thinking patterns or behavior patterns

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>like the one you have, I don't ask for help.

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do it myself. When you identify a pattern,

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>once you see it, you can change it. And so

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>your husband's already offered to help. Come up with here's

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the here's the coaching, come up with a very specific um,

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>ask about how you're going to structure your week, and

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 1>then go to your husband say this is how it's

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna go, this is what I'm gonna do. And now

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 1>you're in partnership around your dreams, yes, instead of you

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:54.439
<v Speaker 1>secretly building this big emotional distance. And then how old

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>is love? For awesome? She's old enough to understand that

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>mommy has things that mommy wants to do. And the

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>way that you deal with your guilt is you know

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>what you do you thank your kids. Love Today Mommy

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>gets to go and work on her her podcast. I

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>want to thank you so much for hanging out with

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>so and so today because mommy, you know, is going

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to go get to do something mommy loves. And I

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>love that you support me and then she feels a

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Yeah. I love that, and I love

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.919
<v Speaker 1>how yeah, and I love how you're saying, like schedule out,

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like what you want? You know, So you know what,

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>five three to one, you got this, Kristen, You're my

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.359
<v Speaker 1>soul mate, all right, So, Kristen, I want to make

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>sure this landed, So repeat, repeat back for me and

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody listening, Mel for president. God. No, I'm just kidding, um,

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, because any functioning human being would be great,

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and I don't happen to be one, so that would

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>be amazing. So I want you to, first of all,

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>tell me the big takeaway, the big aha that you've

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>got out of our conversation. I need to ask for help,

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and I've known us and I am not good at it,

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to become better at it great, And

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 1>asking for help is a skill, it is, and it's

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>one you just need to develop. That's it. There's no

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>two on angiogram. You know, if anybody follows that, I'm

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like a solid, gouty girl, but I don't do enough

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>for myself and people want to help you, Like, it's

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it's actually very selfish not to ask for help. Now,

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>how do you get unstuck in a like? How did

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you and Chris get unstuck in your marriage? It was

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>not easy for Chris and I to go through the

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 1>three or four years of turmoil where I hated him

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>for being a failure and then where he hated me

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>for being the one that was successful. Like it might

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>as well have been an affair, because emotionally we were

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>so devastating to one another and mean and just awful. Yeah,

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:00.080
<v Speaker 1>so how did you stop that behavior? How did you

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.959
<v Speaker 1>stop the resentment? Just the five four three three two one? Well,

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>because that takes lots of practice. It's like it's like

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and seventy five times a day, is what

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you gotta You gotta use it um because you know

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 1>your instincts are gonna want to kill somebody or use

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that tone of voice or cut them off at the knees.

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And so when the emotions rise up, you five you

0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>count five or three two one to yourself, and it

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 1>gives you a moment of control to control what you

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 1>do next. And for me, it would be tough to

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>remember to do that because that's not the normal response, right,

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 1>The normal response is to pop off, right, Yeah, And

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I struggle with that too in

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>our relationship as well, Like when I am triggered, it's

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I want my I I don't take that minute to

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>pause with five seconds five seconds because because then it's

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely like you're trying what you're trying. It's so hard

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to Can you count like five four three two? Yes,

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you can? And you don't even have to say it

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>out loud. You can. You It is a moment where

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you're taking control. And what happens in your mind is

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're about to pop off, you're using the interior

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>part of your brain where you're driven by automatic behavior,

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>by emotion, by anger, by patterns. When you count backwards

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 1>five four three two one, you interrupt those habit loops

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and you awaken your prefrontal cortex. That's the part of

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 1>your brain that you're using when you're taking a test

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>or learning new behavior, when you're acting with courage, when

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you're in control. And so it's a cheat code that

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>gives you immediate control over the part of the brain

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that you need um in order to fix this situation.

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you know Kristen is going to need to

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>do it three two one to ask for help and

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to break that pattern of beating herself up and feeling

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>guilty and trying to do it all on her own.

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And by asking for help, you will improve your marriage

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 1>because you are creating into intimacy and partnership and you're

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:52.640
<v Speaker 1>letting your partner in on your dreams and you're allowing

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 1>your partner to do what your partner wants to do,

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>which is to support you in a way that's really empowering. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and said for Leslie, and it's the biting our tongue

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<v Speaker 1>when we're quick to Okay, I know you have to

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<v Speaker 1>leave melt I could live here. Let me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>biting your tongue. You're ready. Here's the thing about biting

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<v Speaker 1>your tongue. Three to one your tongue. Now, it's never

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<v Speaker 1>edit the content of what you need to say that's

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<v Speaker 1>true for you and your values. Edit the tone. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. The hardest thing that I ever said

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<v Speaker 1>to my husband was, I don't believe in you. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that you will ever be successful or

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<v Speaker 1>be able to provide for this family. And it scares

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of me, and I'm freaking angry. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I even said I should have married some guy

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<v Speaker 1>in finance to really like dig it in there. And

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<v Speaker 1>he turned to me and you know what he said

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<v Speaker 1>it I know, oh, I know. It was the turning

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<v Speaker 1>point in our marriage because it was the most honest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I had ever said to him. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to that level of honesty, that's when you can

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<v Speaker 1>start to rebuild. Because we have a habit in our

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<v Speaker 1>most important relationships of lying, of withholding, of acting out

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<v Speaker 1>of anger instead of having the hard, truthful conversations. And

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<v Speaker 1>for you, the hard truthful conversation is I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>could do this. I want to try to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are the these are the ten commandments, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they're broken, what's changed is I'm out. And we

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<v Speaker 1>need to work together as we work on ourselves on

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<v Speaker 1>how we are going to create that new reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>that working together pieces super important because whether the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>goes the distance or it doesn't, you have kids together.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna be together forever anyway, and so working

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<v Speaker 1>on honesty and working on respect and communication, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all driven by the courage to be honest. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation that you need to work on. You deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody that is honest with you. You deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody that respects you. You deserve to have somebody that,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they might be struggling, still has the courage

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<v Speaker 1>and the respect and the love for you to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you the moment they start struggling. I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent agree with you, and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of your insight. I'm obsessed with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I cannot wait to come to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>come to one of your speaking engagements and come to

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<v Speaker 1>the talk second. Please. I would love to talk. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that, I would love that. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be a guest. I love you, Mel. I love you

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<v Speaker 1>too so much for coming on the show. You means

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<v Speaker 1>more to me than you know. Well. I'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>any time you want. Thank you, Mel. You're welcome to Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye, Hey, this is Mel. If you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>to be a better person. I'm just every morning, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go five three. Let's I gotta go buy your

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<v Speaker 1>book right away? Amazon that stuff. Hey, I got an email,

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<v Speaker 1>um to leave with us. It's from anonymous wedding parties.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently got engaged and has been amazing. My fiance

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<v Speaker 1>has a larger wedding party that he's thinking of asking

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up with him eight um, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely think of that many wonderful and supportive women that

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<v Speaker 1>are so close to my heart to stand up with me. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I may be getting in my own

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<v Speaker 1>head about it all. I don't want to hurt feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you draw the line? How can I be

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<v Speaker 1>sure these people will be in our life when we

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<v Speaker 1>are fifty sixty, etcetera. Oh that's a big one, isn't Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's hard. I guess I don't understand. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the hang up? What is her hang up?

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<v Speaker 1>Hang up? Planning went for you guys, like, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>hard one. I don't want anyone's feeling. Why no, because

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<v Speaker 1>for me it's like, you know, I didn't I had

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of um stretched to get some more girls

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<v Speaker 1>on my side. Mike Code could have had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more a football team, yeah, um. So for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to keep it like smaller. Um, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know he wanted to have more, and so I I

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<v Speaker 1>what I would think nowadays, I like what people do

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<v Speaker 1>they have opposite numbers, yeah, and I think that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking back, just so you know, Anonymous, like, there

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<v Speaker 1>is one person in my wedding party that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>speak to anymore, that is has done some awful things

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<v Speaker 1>to me, but it doesn't take away from the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of that day. Other things take away from the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of that day, but nothing takes away from the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of that day. Um, because of that person in the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know how old Anonymous is? Young? Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do think younger. The only reason I say that

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<v Speaker 1>is when so I have been married twice on my

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<v Speaker 1>second final forever marriage, but the first time I have

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a need to have a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was younger, and then the second time, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, good with you three, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>two and felt good about it. It's hard to I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you're in an age where everybody else is

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<v Speaker 1>getting married that if they put you in your wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and their wedding, you kind of feel obligated a bit

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<v Speaker 1>to put them in yours, even though you shouldn't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of layers there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers have to be even, and I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't think that the guy has to have every

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<v Speaker 1>guy stand up for him. There are other things that

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<v Speaker 1>you could have those guys do there equally as important, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could have ushers. I bet there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ushers that would disagree with you. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Bible readers, Bible verse readers at weddings that are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who read our Bible Verse is actually a dear, dear,

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<v Speaker 1>very close friend who was just here. So so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I interesting about that I did something in their

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<v Speaker 1>day that I shouldn't have done. I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>angry with the message at church, okay, so I took

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<v Speaker 1>it a bottom myself bro to d m R. Pastora,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like this know this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>where like in my note in my therapy, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really think before I say certain things. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>send it immediately? Okay? Do you need the five second

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<v Speaker 1>role for a different reasons, but for some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt angry and I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm angry angry period, uh sure, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always had you know, God and I have

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<v Speaker 1>had a um we're or having a We've always had

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<v Speaker 1>a working relationship that makes sense and not a working relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a like that we're betting heads right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yes, but not. And I'm always going to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I question a lot of things sometimes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>so I remember just sitting in church and being like

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<v Speaker 1>like I felt like I got he was healing everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I walk away with while I'm I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just got angry. And so I wrote out,

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to him um and he, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>responded back and was like really sorry that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>this way, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so embarrassed, and I have to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>church troll. Now, I was like, I am so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just angry, and I'm I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe I could just try to find clarity because

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<v Speaker 1>they always say go to go to God, go to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to find clarity, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'd love to sit down with you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes back to the wedding party email because the

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<v Speaker 1>pastor that married us also had indiscretions with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>m and so how do I So it's like that

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<v Speaker 1>was when I was really like trusting God and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, but then he lies to He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to tell me anything like he had. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to say anything to us, like that's not

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<v Speaker 1>But I confided in him when things went down in

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship with Mike at the time, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>sat there and I just remember being like why you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course because your marriage, you know, And again he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to say anything that I just so it's

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<v Speaker 1>always just kind of like, oh, I'm just like scared

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<v Speaker 1>to have that. I don't even know why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>all this, but I just encourage you to not let

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<v Speaker 1>the humans get in the way of your God relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>because ultimately it's the human nous of those people like

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<v Speaker 1>pastors and preachers and every you know, those people want

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<v Speaker 1>to be an example of, and they've signed up for

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<v Speaker 1>a really big job because I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>could ever do that and try to live biblically like

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<v Speaker 1>they do. They would come out of the woodwork. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the humanness of people gets in the way. So

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<v Speaker 1>we can't idolize anyone here. We can only confide in

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<v Speaker 1>and have a relationship with the one with a capital

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<v Speaker 1>oh that we know is the constant. So were you

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<v Speaker 1>mad at the pastor? Or were you mad at God?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we know what the message was that really want? Like? God?

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay too, Yeah, he can take it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>more mad at like they were. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>repenting and how people should you know, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>um have hurt others and have these addictions or these

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<v Speaker 1>character defects that they need to let go of, they

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<v Speaker 1>can be healed, and then I'm like more hopeful for

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<v Speaker 1>the addict. So they're hopeful for them for the but

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<v Speaker 1>then not hopeful for the Well, then what do we

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<v Speaker 1>do right the ones that continue to be hurt in

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<v Speaker 1>led to what happens there? I don't know addictions. Not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to play a victim, No, No, I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, I was just feeling like there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much grace for one side, and you're like, where's the

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<v Speaker 1>grace for the other right? Where the strength? Really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's next week, but well maybe after my d

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<v Speaker 1>M it will be He's like, well, I gotta sharpen

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<v Speaker 1>up something. I do think, like those hopeful messages, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much like grace that goes out to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all broken, So I don't know a way to

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<v Speaker 1>frame it, but like I'll say, like in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that have the addiction, and then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>people on the other side that are trying to support

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<v Speaker 1>the people with the addiction that are going to church

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<v Speaker 1>to be like Okay, I gotta like, you know, gear

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<v Speaker 1>up and feel good. And and I do think when

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<v Speaker 1>you're angry, that's the humanness part that I was talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you're angry with with your people, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have like we can try to extend God's grace,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that we really have the full

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<v Speaker 1>ability to do what God has done for us. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean gave us the son, you know, so I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just kind of have to like know

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to be frustrated and know it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>just not be okay sometimes. I mean I've I've left feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I leave a lot of relationships in my life feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Just as you're saying right now, addiction is a beast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking about addiction, no, but I mean like broken,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where it resonates with me. The addictions aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the same, but like, so what do you do with it? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>With everyone you know? Like, how do you? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you leave then? Because and I think it's just And

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<v Speaker 1>I said this to my to Catherine, who was on

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<v Speaker 1>last week. I told her, I go, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it is every single time I'm in church, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to cry, but I don't because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to look weak. Oh cry it out. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I won't let him. And he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's God trying to get into you. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I won't. I won't like do it, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>like release anything. And like, and there was even a

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<v Speaker 1>prayer group that like was in front of church and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go up there and like asked for

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<v Speaker 1>some certain prayers. But I was embarrassed and I walked

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<v Speaker 1>away and I ran and I just went and cry

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. I actually did go this week to

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<v Speaker 1>the front. You did, cried like a baby, went up

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<v Speaker 1>and said one sentence and just cried and just let

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<v Speaker 1>him pray over me. See, I find I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I get uncomfortable. I'm not your style

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<v Speaker 1>to know, but I want it to be. I just

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<v Speaker 1>get uncomfortable. Like I'm so jealous of the people in

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<v Speaker 1>church that have their hands up been praising me. I

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<v Speaker 1>look at them and I'm like, I wish I could

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<v Speaker 1>do that one time. No rip off the band aid

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<v Speaker 1>one too, Like I like even saying it like makes

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<v Speaker 1>me want to cry because I'm like I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm afraid too, because then I'm like, well then

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<v Speaker 1>if I give that, then I'm like, then it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little loss of control. Well, it's a loss

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<v Speaker 1>of control. But also like, is he going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there for me because everyone else hasn't been there? Who

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<v Speaker 1>he the big guy? The big guys always there. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's my thing. When it starts with like abandonment from

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<v Speaker 1>early childhood wounds. You don't think that man is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there for you because that man wasn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was the human man. That's the human nous.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let the humans ruin your relationship with the one,

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<v Speaker 1>the one real guy. You know, this just got real deep.

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<v Speaker 1>I just encourage you, Like I used to not put

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<v Speaker 1>my hands up, I used to not go to the

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<v Speaker 1>front for prayer. But I also just got to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where I was like, just get so defeated that

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, what can it hurt? I guess is where

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<v Speaker 1>I went to, like I'm only up from here. And

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<v Speaker 1>last Sunday was one of those Sundays where I was

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<v Speaker 1>like just a real hard Sunday. It was a hard

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<v Speaker 1>fight with my husband. It was you know, I battle

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes even with the church right now, with like the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of violence that goes on in a church, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to go, but now do I feel safe?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's we're all have so many layers, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you just feel closer and better and

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<v Speaker 1>cry and release and it's like I just even if

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are standing next to you are there

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<v Speaker 1>for the right reasons, they'd be the ones that would

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<v Speaker 1>put a hand on your back or pray for you

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<v Speaker 1>before they'd ever judge you. And if they're there for

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong reasons, then that's their own demon to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, if you just stay there and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't say a word, you don't have to speak, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just stayd there, you go with me, then then

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do. I don't think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. I just you can just go up there

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<v Speaker 1>and just be And they wouldn't know that too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just because I even noticed. I just I noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>every time I'm in church, I just get so eyes

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<v Speaker 1>well and I'm like no, no, And then to like

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<v Speaker 1>someone you know, dm me and was like, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you at church, and I'm like, yeah, well that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other yea. You know. So I'm like, well, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't even I don't know, but you

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<v Speaker 1>but you can, I know. And I wonder too if

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<v Speaker 1>it will become a point where you feel the pool

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<v Speaker 1>so strongly. I had never cried in church, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the exact sermon where I just let it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't help it. It didn't hit anything on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out, it just came out. It was like this person.

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<v Speaker 1>This pastor was telling the story and it literally lined

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<v Speaker 1>up so identical with my childhood that like, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no choice and I just lost it. And I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if that will be what happened where you can't where

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<v Speaker 1>your humanness doesn't get in the way. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I would just I you know, I didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>in a We went every Easter, every Christmas, I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And we started to go, Um, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really go in l A. And we've made it a

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<v Speaker 1>pack to go every Sunday. Um. But it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a journey. Yeah, and I'm on it. It's interesting. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start volunteering to watch the kiddos for the

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<v Speaker 1>first service. And then I thought about doing that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pumped about that, and then I get nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>term good episode. Ladies, I love you, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus loves you, of God loves you. Let's you're a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend. Don't talk about lunch tomorrow. I love you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. You're a good friend. By next week. Bye bye,