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Speaker 1: by Miss Lara Overton. JJ Stankobitz from Colts dot Com,

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Speaker 1: the senior writer is here and guys, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with this. It seems like we haven't played football

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Speaker 1: football jump he was at Jack. But because I love

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Speaker 1: what hearing what you're doing with your family. But this

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Speaker 1: You're the pride of Broad Ripple, you and Tucker. Let's

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Speaker 1: not forget about Tug. So what happened with your weekend? Well?

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Speaker 1: I tweeted about this because I did not have the

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Speaker 1: best of sundays. I clearly meant to be at work

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Speaker 1: I cannot freaking weight to get back to words what happened?

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Speaker 1: What did we learn? JJ? I'm starting about you. What

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Speaker 1: the way he runs, he's not of this human form.

427
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a different cat. Do we need

428
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: to force feed him to get him the ball even

429
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: though he's not if he's not cooking in the first

430
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: or second what do you guys think? No, because I

431
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: think that you keep defenses guessing on how much you're

432
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: going to utilize him when you're going to utilize them.

433
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: I think that you don't want to make that aspect

434
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: of it predictable because you know that establishing the run

435
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor is going to be a priority early on,

436
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: and so teams are going to know to expect that,

437
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: because why wouldn't you You'd be crazy not to, right.

438
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that you need to keep some you know,

439
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: mystery in these aspects of the weapons you have and

440
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: how you're going to utilize them. With Nahem, he's the

441
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: threat of run game and the receiving game Jonathan Taylor

442
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: has emerged as you know, a presence also in the

443
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: passing game as well. So I think that what you

444
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: do is I kind of like that Nahem will break

445
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: out and have these like monster games. I mean, he

446
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: was the first one on the board last week getting

447
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: in the end zone for the Colts, and I just

448
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: I like the way that they mix it up and

449
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: they find that variety. I don't think that you have

450
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: to force anything with this offense, aside from making sure

451
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: Jack then Taylor gets an adequate number of touches. Right Look,

452
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean it. Nihehines is going to be a part

453
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: of this offense. He's probably gonna be He's probably gonna

454
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: piss you off if you're a fantasy football player and

455
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: you want to have Nikeehines in your team, because there

456
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: might be a game where he goes, you know, eight

457
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 1: for fourteen like he did against the forty nine ers,

458
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: but then against the Jets six or seventy four of

459
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: the touchdowns. He's gonna get his this year and they're

460
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna come in big moments like that. Do do not

461
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: count out Nihehines. You know when the Colts go to Buffalo,

462
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: are they host Tampa. Are they go to Arizona? Are

463
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: they play New England in a game that all of

464
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: a sudden looks like I might have some huge playoff applications.

465
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: That guy could come up with a huge season changing

466
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: play for the Colts, even special teams included absolutely on

467
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: a punt return, absolutely lost it all Right, parting shots,

468
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to rhet Lewis here. What do you

469
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: guys think? What is it going to take? And what

470
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Speaker 1: is the final I haven't done this before with you guys,

471
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: so I'm doing it now. What are we looking at

472
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: that Sunday come about four thirty? I have no idea.

473
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly have no idea. I don't want

474
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: to give you a final score because that bad for me.

475
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, look the Colts. I think, like Frank

476
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: Croich said, getting to sit back last weekend and watch

477
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: what happened with the Jaguars beating the Bills a game.

478
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure Buffalo was just the heaviest favorite over the

479
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: weekend and to see what happened there, you gotta you

480
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that you take every opponent seriously. The

481
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars are a team to take seriously. They have talent

482
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: on that roster. Yes, they may not have the record,

483
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: but they have talent, and they just beat a team

484
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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills, who a lot of people have

485
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: making the super out of the v the and their quarterbacks.

486
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: So the Colts are gonna be on it this week.

487
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you they're gonna win the game,

488
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: but I think you go into this game feeling confident

489
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: just with the way things are trending for this I'm

490
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna go into the must win. I'm gonna go into

491
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: It's Jacksonville. You must every game. I mean we do

492
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: this every week on the pregame show, but literally again

493
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: a must win. You've got to beat You've got to

494
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: handle business against the Jaguars. I know that everybody's talking

495
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: about them beating up Josh Allen whatever, Urban Meyer, I

496
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: don't care. You have to take care of business. The

497
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: Jets had just beat the Bengals before they can and

498
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: we just might. Yeah, well we got We got lucky

499
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: with Mike White, I mean, a hot quarterback. Everybody's talking

500
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: about going out injured Luther for quite a few yards,

501
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. Over three hundred to be fair.

502
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I appreciate the roundtable, but we're gonna

503
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: keep it going. Rhett Lewis from the NFL Network, We're

504
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: gonna pick his brain about what's going on in the

505
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: AFC South and around the NFL. Rhet It's a pleasure

506
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: to have you. I know you're a busy man surfing

507
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: around this league, keeping up with everything that's going on,

508
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: and we are going to pick your brain. But my

509
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: first question to you is, go back a few a

510
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: few months, if you will. Did you see the Colts

511
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: at the position that they're at right now after acquiring

512
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz seeing what they have and Jonathan Taylor, Michael

513
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Pitt Junior? Where are you? Are you disappointed where they're

514
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: at right now? Are you a little confused? Surprised? What

515
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, No, it's a good question because I

516
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of everything, Because you know,

517
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: once we saw a first couple of days of training

518
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: camp that Carson was going to be down for a

519
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: few weeks. You know, I was like, all right, this

520
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: could be a tough early stretch of the season if

521
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: he is even able to make it back. It turns

522
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: out he was able to make it back, and it

523
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: was in fact a tough opening stretch to the season,

524
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: but they have won three or four here, right, a

525
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: couple of division wins in there, or at least one

526
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: over the Texans, Right, So I know there was a

527
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: tough boss of the Titans, but that was a game

528
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: that they should have won, and I think a game

529
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: that they'll be in a good position to really compete in,

530
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, the type of game rather down the stretch.

531
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: And look, here's the thing about the AFC. Nobody's out

532
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: of it right now, all right, I mean, like the

533
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: Cults are two games out a second place in the conference.

534
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: So you know, you got like ten teams and there

535
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: were five wins, there's four and five. I feel like

536
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: we're sitting pretty here. I mean, that's what I want

537
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: to ask you about, Rhett from a national perspective. When

538
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: you look at the AFC. Are there teams in that

539
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: jumbled mess between I guess you would probably say the

540
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: Titans at the top, and then I guess the Jets

541
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: at thirteen. Yeah, are there teams in there that you say,

542
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: all right, that team's five and four, but they're trending up.

543
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: Are that team's four and five and they're trending up?

544
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: And Are the Colts part of that discussion. Yeah, So

545
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good point. And I think

546
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: there is a line of demarcation there at twelve and

547
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: thirteen in the conference with the Colts sitting there at

548
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: four and five and everybody else with two wins or less.

549
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: At this point, it does feel like those bottom four

550
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be talking about the draft here

551
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: pretty soon with those four teams. And I don't think

552
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: that's a hot take. So with the Colts, I think

553
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: they're very much in it. I think the last month

554
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: teaches us that. I think if they gets some continuity

555
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: along the offensive line, you know, in terms of injuries,

556
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: who if Brandon Smith is able to play here moving forward,

557
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I think that's huge here. But as far as the

558
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: other teams, like I feel pretty good about Cleveland, you know,

559
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: sitting there at nine, I'm still less sold on Denver

560
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati right now with the way that Cincinnati's played

561
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, like we need to

562
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: see you know that they've had their first real stretch

563
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: of adversity here. So can they figure it out and

564
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: still make a push in the AFC North With the

565
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: Steelers in and the Ravens sitting there at one and

566
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: two right now in that division. So I think right now,

567
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: Indy's got a good spot here. I mean, the Patriots

568
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: are right now the seventh seed, right they're the last

569
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: team in, and the Colts are only a game back.

570
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Like this, this is very much still a team in

571
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: the thick of the race, at least in the wild card.

572
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I always have to take a chance to turn it

573
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: back to a big ten tie. Because Rhett and I

574
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: are you a Lion, went to school together at We

575
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: went through our graduate program together, so we've known each

576
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: other for a very long time. So I want to

577
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: talk about the University of Wisconsin product Jonathan Taylor. He

578
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: is turning out to be the best Colts running back

579
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: since Hall of Famer Edgar and James was gracing us

580
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: in this building. How does Jonathan Taylor keep finding new

581
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: ways to put this league on notice? Right? Yeah, it's

582
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: a great point, Lara, And gosh, you just uh god,

583
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's just made my heart feel good. They're

584
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: just hearing you mentioned Bloomington and for that, thank you

585
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: for that. It's been a rough go this season for

586
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: our Hoosiers. We'll get to that but so with Jonathan Taylor.

587
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: UM I made this quote unquote declaration on Friday morning

588
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: and do radio show on Big ten Radio and series Sexam,

589
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the Thursday night games some

590
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of the Big Ten alums in the game. It was like, look,

591
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: it's not a secret, and Jonathan Taylor is the best

592
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: running back football right now. Like that is that is

593
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: absolutely the case in my mind. That of course, understanding

594
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: that Derrick Henry is out for at least the next

595
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: few weeks and probably till the playoffs. So with him out,

596
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, his burst, his combination of strength and speed.

597
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: I think he's got greater home run threat ability than

598
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and he's just as physical as Derrick Henry.

599
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that catches people by surprise

600
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: still is how good of a receiver he is, because

601
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: he just didn't wasn't ask to do it that much

602
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin until like the very you know, his last season,

603
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: and I think that part of his game has been

604
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: much better than advertised. And I think it's one of

605
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: those things where the Colton now have so many different ways,

606
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: They've got so many answers for opposing defenses with the

607
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: different ways that they can utilize Jonathan Taylor. All right,

608
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Rhet lewis right there. We're talking about the AFC South

609
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: right now. I want to stick a little bit with

610
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: the upcoming game if I can. Guys, we can go

611
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: drop back to players in a second. But I've just

612
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: been as soon as I heard we had Rhet on

613
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: the show, I wanted to get his take on this

614
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: of when you look at the Jacksonville Jaguars all the

615
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: way around, are they I mean, are they just I

616
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know what the word is I'm looking for, but

617
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: starting with the Urban Meyer firing, Yeah, but with the

618
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer incident, you know, going back, I just know

619
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Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for anyone here at the Colts Complex whatsoever,

620
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: but I just know that if I was in position

621
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Speaker 1: where my head coach had that sort of thing go on,

622
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, not traveling with his team, having you know,

623
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: playing whatever he was playing in the bar with whoever

624
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: he was playing with, they wouldn't be around. And then

625
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: you got to turn a season around somehow and say, hey,

626
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I made a mistake, guys, but you know, still stick

627
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: with me. I'm your coach. I just I don't know

628
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: who they are, what do you think when you look

629
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: at Trevor Lawrence, the overall number one, when you look

630
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: at Urban Meyer, this team getting waxed week in and

631
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: week out, and then all of a sudden pulling the

632
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: rabbit out of their hat and beating Buffalo. Yeah, it's

633
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: it's a real hard team. Like to find the like

634
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: water level with like are what are they as a

635
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: good question? Right? I think what they are as a

636
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: team with a lot of promise, and really the only team,

637
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: the only the only picture of that promise right now

638
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence. And we've seen get better weekend and

639
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: week out. I thought he showed some toughness, thought he

640
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: showed some real game management skills, and this last win

641
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: over Buffalo to hang on, get a field goal at

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: the end to take the lead, and I just I

643
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to feel good about from that

644
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: perspective with Trevor Lawrence, with Josh Allen, the number seven

645
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: overall pick in the nineteen draft, finally really putting it

646
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: together this season. I was listening to him talk after

647
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: the game, I was just like, man, this guy's kind

648
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: of real good head on his shoulders. So I think

649
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: you've got two real good stabilizing forces on either side

650
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: of the ball with Trevor and with Josh Allen and

651
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: then some other really good pieces in there too. It's

652
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: just not enough on either side that they don't have

653
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: the juice on offense right now. Like that's just in

654
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: terms of x's and oaths, like that's it. Like Jamal Agnew,

655
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: who was a defensive back for the Lions, is like

656
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: their best player right now and so and he's playing

657
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: on offense. So it's like, you know, they need to

658
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: figure out the way to get some juice. I know

659
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: DJ Chark's injury certainly hurt them a couple of weeks

660
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: ago being out for the year. As far as the

661
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: other stuff with urban Meyer, you know, like these are professionals,

662
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, you guys see that day in and day

663
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: out with the Colts, and while you know, the situation

664
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: that urban Meyer found himself in is probably not one

665
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: that Frank Wich would ever find himself, I think, yes,

666
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: exactly right. But I think that there there's enough of

667
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: a galvanizing force between players and that mentality of playing

668
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: for the guy next to you, not necessarily the guy

669
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. You know, we're in the headset. I

670
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: think that's pretty strong, and I think we take that

671
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: for granted sometimes, like, oh my god, what the coaches doing?

672
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: How the heck are the players going to play? Well?

673
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: You know what, they got some pride to themselves and

674
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: like they're playing for their jobs day in and day out,

675
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: week in and week out, and they'll rally together with

676
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: each other even if it's not, you know, again, for

677
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: the guys that are you know, quote unquote in charge

678
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: of leading the team. I was trying to figure this

679
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: out earlier on the podcast before we brought you on, Rhett.

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Was this Jaguars Bills game? Was this a sign of

681
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: things to come for the Jaguars, a sign of things

682
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: to come for the Bills, or just a random blip

683
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: on an eighteen game schedule, eighteen week schedule. And it's

684
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: such a it's such a tough question because I just

685
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: we've seen better stretches from the Bills this season, and

686
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: there's just too much there. Sean McDermott is too good

687
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: of a coach. This is to this team is too connected.

688
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen has put those kind of turnovers that

689
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: we saw in this game behind him. He put that

690
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: behind him in two and nineteen and then obviously we

691
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: saw what he did last year, and I just I

692
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: think this is more of an aberration for the Bills,

693
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to mean that it's a blip

694
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars that they were able to pull the

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00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: rabbit out of their hat. It could be a building block.

696
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Could be they're starting to figure out how to utilize

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00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: their pieces and they're starting to figure out, you know,

698
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: how to how to get some of these pieces involved more.

699
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, he saw Carlos hide with the twenty one

700
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: carries me and the fumble was terrible. But you know

701
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: they want to commit to the run game. Great, let's

702
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: continue to do that and see what this does for us.

703
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: You want to, you know, not put Trevor Lawrence in

704
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: a position where he's got to be thrown at forty

705
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: times a game and throwing two and three interceptions. We

706
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: saw that kind of work that out of his game

707
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks. So I think it's it's

708
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: a building block for Jacksonville, and I think it's more

709
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: of a all right, we gotta flush this one. If

710
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: we're the Bills. We got a lot bigger fish to

711
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: fry here down the stretch of this season. Let's figure

712
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: it out, and I have a lot of confidence that

713
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: they will. I don't think we'll see Josh Allen with

714
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: many more multi interception games. Right. We saw this Colts

715
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: team come so close on two different occasions against really

716
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: good teams. Monday night game in Baltimore and then at

717
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: home just a few weeks ago against Tennessee had digit

718
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: leads that they gave up in both. Those are wins

719
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: that you know, if you were able to calculate those

720
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: now onto the schedule, puts you in a completely different conversation.

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: At this point in this season, this is a team

722
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: that's still looking for one of those quote unquote signature wins.

723
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: You need a win over a winning team, over a

724
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: team that's above five hundred, over a team that was

725
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: a playoff contender or in the playoffs last season. When

726
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: you look at this next month stretch in particular for

727
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: the Colts and Unity, yeah, exactly so, how much do

728
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: you need to see, you know, this team capitalize on

729
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the opportunities that they have and really put together, especially

730
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, that complete sixty

731
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: minute game and shut out a team when you got

732
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: them on the ropes down nineteen like Baltimore down fourteen,

733
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: like Tennessee. When you have games like the Bills, the Bucks,

734
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, any of those opportunities coming up. Yeah. Look,

735
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean there are some huge games here, and I

736
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: think that that kind of killer instinct is something that

737
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: you really need. Um. I think it's something that that

738
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: can emanate from a guy like Darius Leonard, right, And

739
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a part of the reason why we

740
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: love him is that that ferocity that he plays with

741
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: and and because it's also a mentality as you guys

742
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: see every day. Um, So that that needs to start

743
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: filtering through, especially when you find yourselves in an advantageous

744
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: position within the framework of a game. Um, as you

745
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: mentioned up fourteen Nothing on the Titans, Like you can't

746
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: let that one go, Like you got to figure out

747
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: a way to get the ball back to your offense.

748
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: And as an offense at that point, you got to

749
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: start grinding zoom clock and you got to keep putting

750
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: points on the board. And these these let ups, these

751
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: these issues with giving up leads and then finding yourself,

752
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, needing to come back at the end of

753
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: regulation a fource over time or um you find yourself

754
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: you know, losing at the end of regulation. You know,

755
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: in one score games like that is all to Mitley.

756
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: What will decide who makes the playoffs in the AFC

757
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: is who can win close games. And I think they've

758
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: got the leadership to figure that out. But it's a

759
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: matter of closing. It's a matter of minimizing the stakes

760
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: and key situations. It's a matter of taking care of

761
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: the football, and it's a matter of finding you know,

762
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: explosive plays like we saw him from Jonathan Taylor. Like

763
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: those plays are not just points on the scoreboard, they're

764
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: soul crushers. Like that crushes the soul of opposing teams.

765
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: And like, if you're the Jacksonville Jaguars this week and

766
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: the Colts are, you know, you're coming to Lucas Oil

767
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: take on the Colts and you're watching Jonathan Taylor break

768
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: off twenty twenty five and then like a seventy five

769
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: yard run. That's the type of stuff that goes Man,

770
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: We're in for another long day here, right, And so

771
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: like those are the type of things that you need

772
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: against teams down the stretch here, Bills, Bucks, Patriots, Cardinals, Raiders.

773
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean, like you've got the AFC playoffs structure on

774
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: the schedule in the next eight weeks, so they got

775
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: to figure out how to how to maximize those opportunities.

776
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: Rtt Lewis from the NFL Network joins us last year,

777
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: this is a top ten defense, right justin Houston out

778
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: Quitty pay in. You know, they still got Darius Leonard

779
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: back there DeForrest Buckner, Kenny Moore, you know incomes Quitty

780
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: pay for justin Houston. So what is the difference from

781
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: year one to year two, Because it seems to be

782
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: like even with this Jets game we were just talking

783
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: about before he had Yon, you know, given up thirty

784
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: points to that team at home. It's like, right the

785
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: quarterback number three for the majority of the game, and

786
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Yeah, it does. It does make

787
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you kind of scratch your head a little bit because

788
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: there are a lot of the principal impact players still there.

789
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: To me, a lot of it kind of comes down

790
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: to the back end. You know, Julian Blackman going down

791
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: certainly hurts this defense. Xavier Rhodes kind of playing what

792
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: feels like a little banged up for much of this season,

793
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, hurt sector. He had a terrific year year

794
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: ago and then just you know, Kenny Moore obviously is terrific, um,

795
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: but I think finding some continuity in the back endum

796
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: has been tough this year. I think losing a you know,

797
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: a running mate like Anthony Walker for Darius Leonard is tough.

798
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: But the the thing the thing to me is is

799
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: pressure and pressure cures all for defenses and the edge

800
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: rush just it hadn't felt like it's been there for

801
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: the majority of this season. And I know that Quitti

802
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: pay is going to be a good player in this league, um.

803
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: And while he may not be flashing as much as

804
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: other rookies, you know, like Joe Tryon with the Bucks

805
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: or you know, Jalen Phillips seems to be coming on

806
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: a little bit with the Dolphins, Like yeah, he'll get there.

807
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: And then, you know, I just finding that kind of

808
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: pressure to reek havoc off the edge, I think is

809
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: something that they're gonna they're gonna have to try to

810
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: manufacture here at some point. And so I think that

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: has a ripple effect from up front to the second

812
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: level to the third level, and then, like I said,

813
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: in the third level, when you have some pieces that

814
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: have kind of been in and out of a lineup,

815
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: at times it makes things real difficult, right. I wanted

816
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: to ask you, as a you know, a national you know,

817
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: person who works at NFL Network, and I asked something

818
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: similar to your your coworker Colleen Wolf on our podcast

819
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: last week about Carson Wentz. But I want to ask you,

820
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: what is it going to take for the narrative to

821
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: change nationally about Carson Wentz? Because he's playing well, But

822
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: it seems like every time the Cults are in primetime

823
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: or their game is on nationally, it's like that Simpsons

824
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: episode where like Lenny and Carl are standing at the

825
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, like by Homer's desk being like, hold on,

826
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: he's about to do something stupid. But Carson Wentz hasn't

827
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: done that a whole lot this year. What will it

828
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: take for the narrative to change about him? You know?

829
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: I think in certain circles it was changing. It was

830
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: on its way to changing up until the Titans game,

831
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: and especially at the end of that game when you

832
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: throw a couple of turnovers to a couple of picks. Um,

833
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this is this is kind of like

834
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: you're like sneaky into the radar, like twenty seventeen VP

835
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: run Carson Wentz here. You know, a guy's only thrown

836
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: a couple of picks this season, and then he goes

837
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: and hits two of them, you know, in a couple

838
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: of minutes to end that game against Tennessee, and you're like, God, shoot,

839
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: just when we just when you were bringing us back in,

840
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think time, I think, continuing

841
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: to take care of the football the way he had

842
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: been for much of this season, we'll go a long

843
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: way to say, let's let's say in three or four weeks,

844
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, let's say you get a couple of wins

845
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: out of that Bill's buck stretch and you're like, whoa,

846
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Let's go back and look at these numbers for Carson Wentz.

847
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: These looks strangely similar to what we saw from him

848
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: when we thought he was one of the best quarterbacks

849
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: in football. I think they can get there. I think

850
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: having Frank Wright is given Carson exactly what everyone hoped

851
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: and thought he would give him, which is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of that stabilizing force, a little to that familiar face,

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Speaker 1: that familiar tone, and they know each other so well,

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Speaker 1: so like I think that will continue. I think mostly

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Speaker 1: it's time and lack of turnovers and then pulling out

856
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Speaker 1: a couple of these big games in this next month

857
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: or so would go a long way to kind of

858
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: ending some of those narratives. And then the last thing,

859
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: of course, availability, he's got to be there down the stretch,

860
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be if there. If this is a

861
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: playoff team, he's gonna be there in the playoffs. That

862
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: will go a long way. Right. You mentioned hope, and

863
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: it is the dawn of a new day because it

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: is the beginning of the Indiana basketball under Mike Woodson.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it. It has been a little bit of

866
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: a struggle for i U football of late oh and

867
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: six in the conference, we've lost five straights. So I'm

868
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Speaker 1: just going to turn my attention right to the basketball,

869
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: right to the basketball season quickly quickly. On both sides,

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00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: I feel like that, you know, you were talking about

871
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: in terms of the NFL, a lot of times it's

872
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: about playing for the guy next to you. But I

873
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: think with i U football, it's a lot about playing

874
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: for Tom Allen because he has created a culture down there.

875
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: It seems like that this is just a string of

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00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: battle luck and this team just having I mean, the

877
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: quarterback situation there being what it is the injury front.

878
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: But my heart gets broken year after year when I

879
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a team that's gonna win a

880
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: bowl game and all of that. So your thoughts on

881
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: Tom Allen Mike Woodson being the respective right guys in Bloomington,

882
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: Indiana to lead the Hoosiers to better times than what

883
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: we've experienced of late, great great point la um and

884
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: with they are the right guys, Tom, for sure, and

885
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: I think we're really he just dropped. Just drop baby,

886
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: He just dropped five straight Louis. Okay, just I know

887
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: that your guy, But he did. He did. He dropped

888
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: five straight conference games. Hey, how many teams outside of

889
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: Ohio's fate would be would be kind with a winning

890
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: record on a quarterback number three and running backs four

891
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and five. He's got a point cornerbacks four and five.

892
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, he's got a point. And we've

893
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: had we've had a terrible run of bad luck here

894
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: on the injury front, and I feel I feel horribly

895
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: for Michael Pennox. Hopefully to talk about him getting back

896
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: into the lineup here at some point before the end

897
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: of this season. Would be great to have him back,

898
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: but Here's the thing, Um, Tom Allen has never shied

899
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: away from expectations, and not once this season has he

900
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: shot away from the fact that they have failed to

901
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: live up to those expectations. But he did it before

902
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: in terms of figuring out how to turn this program around.

903
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: And this you guys are asking about that Jaguars Bills game, like,

904
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: was it a blip? Was it that? This is a blip?

905
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: This is a form the Hosiers. They're coming back next year.

906
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure things out. We've got a lot of

907
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: young players still trying to find their way. I know

908
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: that Tom can recruit better players here and then quickly

909
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: on the other side with basketball. Best recruiting job this

910
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: season by any men's basketball coach Mike Woodson getting Trace

911
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Chase Jackson Davis back to blooming To and for another season.

912
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: Best player in the conference. And we're gonna see it tonight.

913
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's go all right, you heard we

914
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: are covered when Bloomington football and basketball. We're doing that

915
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: with Rett Lewis from the NFL Network. Listen, folks follow

916
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Rhett NFL. That's our he doublet

917
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: Rhett at Rhett NFL. Man I appreciate it. I got

918
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a couple more before we let you go. Who is

919
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: the most superior team in the National Football League today?

920
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And will these Indianapolis Colts be playing in the postseason? Okay,

921
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: so the best team in football right now it's the

922
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Sorry, sorry, they're gonna run away with the

923
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: AFC South, But the Colts we'll steak into the public. Yeah,

924
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Lewis and Carson Wentz makes a run. I don't know

925
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: how many games they're gonna win, but they're gonna win

926
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: at least one. I love I love it, Rhet Lewis.

927
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: We'll have you back weekly if you want. Man, I

928
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: like this positivity everywhere. Gotta let me tending up here. Hey,

929
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: sure appreciate the time. Again, there's the reason is Jersey's

930
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: hanging up inside Nick's English. Oh look at you, man.

931
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: You don't get that by being negative towards drama model. Okay,

932
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: lead half the lad Rhet Lewis, Man, sure appreciate the time.

933
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: Keep up the great work on the network, man, and again,

934
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: hope to have you back before the postseason starts. No problem,

935
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks so much. Rhet Lewis from the NFL

936
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Speaker 1: Network right there. Guys had a fun time with this

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00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: very fun That's on me, Lara. You told me too,

938
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: you said, you idiot hit that button. So the folks

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Speaker 1: don't hear the BBPET but they did. But that's what

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Speaker 1: you get when I've got you know, my hands on

941
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Speaker 1: the ones and twos. JJ stank If it's any parting

942
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Speaker 1: shots here, please rate, review and subscribe to the Cold

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Speaker 1: Audio Network wherever you get your podcast. That is it,

944
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Lara say something with folks want to know before we

945
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Speaker 1: cut out. Let's get the dub. Let's get dub on Sunday.

946
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Speaker 1: Let's get the dub on Sunday. Let's get you a

947
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Speaker 1: new fresh batch of red wine that you don't break

948
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Speaker 1: and shatter all over the place. I'm just gonna if

949
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Speaker 1: anybody hasn't drizzly code, I'm just gonna get my wine

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Speaker 1: delivered my box A boat us all right, coming via

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Speaker 1: Drisley for Lara. Over to JJ Stankovitz and Tugboat, who

952
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: if he was there, would have been slurping up that

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Speaker 1: red wine. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We do it weekend in

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Speaker 1: week Uh, that's true. And a big danks to Casey

955
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Speaker 1: Valier who puts all this mess together for us. Casey Shure,

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00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the help. Guys. I had fun. Let's do it

957
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Speaker 1: again next week. This is a win. I say, I

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Speaker 1: don't do many guarantees, but I'm guaranteeing this one. Urban Meyer,

959
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be playing I'm not gonna be able

960
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: to play grab bass this weekend. Urban Meyer, we are

961
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: talking about a colts team that is ready to play football. Folks,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.