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Speaker 1: M hmmm. Welcome to the Day of the Lakers podcast.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday everyone, although it's technically a Friday for me

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Speaker 1: because I'm heading out of town this weekend for a

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Speaker 1: for a wedding. But Roger and I are here. We're excited.

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Speaker 1: This is probably gonna be the the second to last

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Speaker 1: pod that will do before the first preseason game. Um,

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Speaker 1: but we're very excited to be here this morning. Rog

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, man, how's your week going? Doing great?

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Speaker 1: Doing great? It's a beautiful Thursday. As you said, Media

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Speaker 1: days in like six days, so we're um getting started

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Speaker 1: here pretty soon and we'll be into really daily episodes.

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Speaker 1: It feels like once once the season starts. Before we start, though,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted something funny I saw over the weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: I saw you live tuning football, which I thought was hilarious. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you compared some into like a two guard

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Speaker 1: pretty funny. When I so, I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I see going over to try to eat live football

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Speaker 1: and someone's like, yeah, I just you know, keeping off basketball.

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was hilarious. Well, you and I

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Speaker 1: twitter trolls effect to uh. I just got a good

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what I was thinking. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we are going to and Justin Herbert, the quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, unbelievable. The dude is just a freak physical talent.

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Speaker 1: I was blown away and I couldn't believe the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: we uh today are going to break down the first

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Speaker 1: fifteen games of the Lakers season quickly, kind of go

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Speaker 1: over additions that those teams made, and what we think

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Speaker 1: about those teams, and then what we think what we

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Speaker 1: think the Lakers are gonna accomplish in that first fifteen games.

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Speaker 1: A lot of road game or excuse me, home games,

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Speaker 1: a lot of home games, and a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: and we'll kind of discuss that in detail. Then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about Frank Vogel's comments during

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Speaker 1: his interview on the Spectrum sports Net show that he

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Speaker 1: sat down for. And then if we have time at

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Wayne Ellington's interview that he did

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Speaker 1: with our friends Zack and Rouche over with the Balls

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Speaker 1: Life podcast. So lots of cover today, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: right into it. So the first game of the season

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Speaker 1: from injury. This is a team that I'm super intrigued

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna be really, really tough to beat in

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Speaker 1: certainly a threat. However, this to me, also in the

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Speaker 1: for them because they already have so many uh you know,

428
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Speaker 1: shots coming to those two guards. UM west of wound

429
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: do super athletic forward, defensive type of player. UM not

430
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Speaker 1: really too much of an impact on them in their rotation,

431
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: but an interesting piece. Kelly Ubre from the Warriors kind

432
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: of another interesting player who's capable of going super frosty cold.

433
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: But then I'll have a game every once in a

434
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: while where he looks like an All Star and then

435
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: Mason plumb lay to kinda spruce up there. The center

436
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 1: position another challenge for the Lakers defense because of how

437
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: good their guards are, you know, with Almelo and Terry Rozier.

438
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: But I think the Lakers size will just be completely

439
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: overwhelming for them and they're just like in that season,

440
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna be games on the schedule where regardless of

441
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 1: what's going on with talent, regardless of what's going on

442
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, matchups in the backcourt, regardless of

443
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Speaker 1: what's going on with the schedule or anything, they're gonna

444
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: be games where the Lakers size is just so overwhelming

445
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna win. Which is what happened in

446
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Speaker 1: And I put that as one of these games. Um,

447
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: Lakers by ten, What do you think? Yeah? I think

448
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: so to Charlotte's an interesting team. Um, I think they

449
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Speaker 1: go as far as LaMelo kind of takes them right,

450
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: Like what is his jump? Like, is he stay the

451
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: same or is he make that like Donovan Mitchell, not Luca.

452
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: Maybe Luca is a tough one to make too, but

453
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, next level, kind of close to

454
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: start here, um Ken LaMelo turned into that if that

455
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: that's what it is, and they're gonna be a off team.

456
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 1: They kind of built around him as well, right. They

457
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: brought all these young kind of wings you talked about

458
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: Kelly Ubre. They have Miles Bridges as well, guys that

459
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: can run the wing for him. Um, I forgot the

460
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: center they brought in, but the big man they brought in.

461
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: But okay, yes, they brought in another like athletic kind

462
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: of big for him. Um, just to run the offense through. Again,

463
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: I still think they're a super young team. Uh, they're

464
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of They're gonna give you fits in the regular season.

465
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to run the ball and all. That.

466
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Speaker 1: Should be a fun one at Staples. I think the

467
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Speaker 1: Lakers pull it out, but I think they'll be close.

468
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Speaker 1: Last year, they gave us a They give us a

469
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Speaker 1: hell of a game last year too. I remember when

470
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Speaker 1: we were healthy. I think LaMelo had a big game

471
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Speaker 1: at Staples. Just a fun young remember that. Yeah, and

472
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Speaker 1: LaMelo is good. I think he's the real deal, so

473
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Speaker 1: we'll we'll see his kind of the next step in development.

474
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Speaker 1: He has a full, healthy offseason as well to work

475
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Speaker 1: on his game, so I'm excited to see what Charlotte

476
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Speaker 1: turns into. But the Lakers winning this one as well.

477
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Speaker 1: The interesting phenomenon with LaMelo last year was that he

478
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Speaker 1: often was taken off the floor for clutch situations. Um,

479
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: he's got great physical rules and has a tendency to

480
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: disrupt a lot of plays defensively by getting his hands

481
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Speaker 1: on the ball. However, he's your classic young player who

482
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: doesn't really understand that. You know. Uh, there's uh. I

483
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: can't even remember who said this, so I want to

484
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Speaker 1: be I feel bad because I'm not going to properly

485
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Speaker 1: credit them, But they laid this out so perfectly. They

486
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: were saying, like, good defense is about making good offense

487
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Speaker 1: not happen, not about turnovers, you know, because a turnover

488
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: is difficult to replicate. If you reach in and swipe

489
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Speaker 1: a ball from somebody and go the other way, that's great,

490
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Speaker 1: But the next time you tried that, he's probably gonna

491
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Speaker 1: do behind the bactory will leave you in the dust

492
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: and break down your defense. Good defense is about always

493
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Speaker 1: being in the right spot at the right time so

494
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Speaker 1: that good offense doesn't happen. LaMelo has to learn that

495
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: side of the game. It's kind of a similar stuff

496
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Speaker 1: that we've been talking about with th h T. But

497
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Speaker 1: I'm really interested in watching LaMelo's progress because he should

498
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Speaker 1: be a good defensive player in the long run. That

499
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Speaker 1: was actually that was Pete Webb, who was on the

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Speaker 1: Laker film room. Thank you so much. That was a

501
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: really interesting pot. By the way, I really enjoyed it was.

502
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: It was great. He's great. Um So home for the

503
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Speaker 1: Miami Heat added Kyle Lowry, markis Morris P. J. Tucker

504
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Speaker 1: from the Bucks. Um I put this is the only

505
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Speaker 1: Lakers loss in the first fifteen games, so I have

506
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Speaker 1: them going fourteen and one to start the season, large

507
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Speaker 1: in large part because of the uh the week schedule.

508
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Speaker 1: But this is a couple of things. This is a

509
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Speaker 1: team that for starters, the Kyle Lowry has always had

510
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Speaker 1: his way with the Lakers. Um Secondly, the Heat always

511
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: play their brand of basketball, which is in this season

512
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: in particular, I think it's gonna be just very similar

513
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: to the two thousand nineteen Raptors, just like obnoxiously good

514
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: defense and just really fundamentally sound offense. To me, this

515
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: is the kind of game where it's gonna be in Staples.

516
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: The Heat are going to kind of always be up

517
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Speaker 1: by five, and the Lakers are just gonna seem a

518
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: little bit out of it mentally and kind of coasting

519
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: their way through the game, and then all of a sudden,

520
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: like Kyle Lowry and Jimmy Butler are just gonna make

521
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of big shots down the stretch, and then

522
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: they end up losing about like ten, and it's just

523
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of one of those weird games. So I have

524
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: this as a Lakers loss. What about you? I actually

525
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: do too, you know what? You know, it's funny. Those

526
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: are actually the worst games to watch as a fan

527
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: where your team is down five and you can never

528
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: like get over that hump, you know what I mean?

529
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: Like those are the most frustrating kind of games, Like

530
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Speaker 1: you make it close and then they make like two

531
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: shots in a row, which is exactly what Miami does.

532
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler plays at his pace, Kyle plays at his pace.

533
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Baman of Bio is kind of a slow, kind of

534
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: big right, He's kind of just plays his pick and

535
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: roll kind of game. UM. I agree, Miami's gonna be

536
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: a great regular season team to me this year. Eric

537
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: Spoelstra amazing coach. Um, he'll find a way to make

538
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: that work. I have this one as a loss to UM,

539
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: so I have this as their third loss UM in

540
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: this series. But yeah, I think Miami is a really

541
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: good team that's gonna be a tough one to kind

542
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: of pull out. UM should be close, though, two really

543
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: good teams. To me, I think these are both teams

544
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: that could compete for an NBA championships. So I think, uh,

545
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: I think Miami wins this one in stables. Yeah, no,

546
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: I I would pick the Lakers over Like, there were

547
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, oh, gotta watch out

548
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: for the Raptors in the playoffs if we ever run

549
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: into them in the finals, they're a bad mans up,

550
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: And I always disagreed with that, Like, I never thought

551
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: that the Raptors were a real threat to the Lakers

552
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: in a playoff series. I just think some there are

553
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: some types of matchups that are particularly tough for specific

554
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: types of teams in the regular season, and I thought

555
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: that that was kind of what that was. And I

556
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: think the Miami Heat are kind of a similar example

557
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: in that regard um next home for the Timberwolves. The

558
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: only meaningful change that I put down with Patrick Beverley,

559
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: they're kind of more or less the same group of

560
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: guys that they were last year. The cores center on

561
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, D'Angelo Russell, and Karl Anthony Towns, which is

562
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: really funky fit because Anthony Edwards will one day be

563
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: a great defensive player, but right now he's not, and

564
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: neither is Dangel Russell, neither is Karl Anthony town So

565
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: they're kind of built around a core that doesn't defend,

566
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: and that's obviously your recipe for disaster in the NBA.

567
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Speaker 1: I put the Lakers win by ten. But the weird

568
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: wrinkle with this is the Timberwolves are potential Ben Simmons

569
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: trade destination, and it's very possible that by this point

570
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: they look very different. Um, but that's where we might

571
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: as well react to what we know for now. And

572
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: so right now it's Patrick Beverley in the same group,

573
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: and I think the Lakers went by ten. What about you? Yeah,

574
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I agree in Minnesota has their own issues. Um. I

575
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: think they just like let co of their GM yesterday.

576
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: For some weere some other reasons. Um, but yeah, but yeah,

577
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: I just I think the Lakers win this one as well.

578
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: I think, uh, Minnesota is gonna depend on Cat. To me,

579
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: like Edwards is obviously great still in the second year

580
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: DEALO is who he is now in the league. I

581
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: think we know what D'Angel Russell is. Um, he's gonna

582
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: be a kind of off the dribble, high volume kind

583
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: of score. Um, it's all around Krar Anthony Towns. Kenny

584
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Towns came to league as like this defensive big,

585
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: like we forget his rookie year, like he was a

586
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: good defensive big. Like he was there. They used to

587
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: do these poles like who would you take cat Um,

588
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or Embeed And people would pick Karl Anthony

589
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: Towns a lot of times. And I'm not sure if

590
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: just Minnesota not really being a real fan franchise for

591
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: a while um kind of changed that. But uh yeah,

592
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna depend big on Cap.

593
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: The Lakers should win this one. I think they're the

594
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: overall talent gap is just too big. When Minnesota, you know,

595
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: takes away the starting lineup, they really don't have much

596
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: coming off the bench, So yeah, I think the Leaders

597
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: win this one as well. So, you know, Carl, I

598
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: think there are Karl Anthony Towns is an interesting case

599
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: defensively because I think there are two different kinds of

600
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: of defensive players. They're like tone setters, and then there

601
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: are guys that kind of like like think of it

602
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: as like leaders and followers, right like you know, um,

603
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: like Anthony Davis is a defensive leader. Like whatever tone

604
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: he sets defensively, the rest of the team just kind

605
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: of follows. I think Russell Westbrook will be a guy

606
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: like that this year, to like, if he really sets

607
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: the tone at the point of attack, I think the

608
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: rest of the team will follow. Karl Anthony Towns And

609
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: this is I kind of was defending him a little

610
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Speaker 1: bit on Twitter last night because people were bringing up

611
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen first round series against the Rockets

612
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: and how he didn't play particularly well. You know, in general,

613
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: I was defending Dean DeAndre Jordan for the same example.

614
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan and Karl Anthony Towns, in my opinion, are

615
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: guys that if they are put around a group of

616
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: guys who are defending, they are capable of being much

617
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: better defenders than if you ask them to lead the way.

618
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Carl Anthon Town's clear really doesn't have the defensive impact

619
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Speaker 1: or the defensive you know care, you know, for passion,

620
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it, for lack of a better term,

621
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Speaker 1: He's not going to set the tone for you defensively.

622
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: But if they did bring in Ben Simmons or somebody

623
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: along those lines, who could be a tones that are defensively.

624
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: I do think Karl Anthony Towns will have a phase

625
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: of his career where he defends well. He just so

626
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way that I would frame his

627
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: defensive progression to this point, if that makes sense that does.

628
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: He's also like an offensive monsters. Numbers are insane. It

629
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: just doesn't really translate to like super dominant basketball, you

630
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like is it shooting numbers are

631
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: like when you talk about him, they say, like he's

632
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: one of the best shooting bigs ever, But you look

633
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: at it in terms of impact winning, it doesn't really

634
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: impact the scoreboard as much as I think it should.

635
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: And again maybe that's just his surrounding roster around him.

636
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: But the talent is there, like he should be this

637
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: defensive leader, like you're saying, but he's just not He

638
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: needs like a he needs an anchor around him. Obviously

639
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler was that for them. But again, Minnesota is

640
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: in a weird place now where they're trying to figure

641
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: things out. And when they had Jimmy Butler and they

642
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: were healthy, they were actually really good. Um it didn't

643
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: really build so much because they had big injury problems

644
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and then they barely squeaked into the playoffs because of

645
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: those injury problems and a mid season trade for Jimmy Butler.

646
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: They got into the playoffs on the last day of

647
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: the regular season by beating the Denver Nuggets, and then

648
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: they ran into that buzz saw Houston Rockets team, which

649
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: is one of the best teams to ever not win

650
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a title. And uh so, just in general, the way

651
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: that I would frame that is like, he had one

652
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: real season, half a season really where he was in

653
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: a competent system, and he will have more seasons in

654
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: the future where he's in a competent system, and we

655
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: should evaluate him then. And lastly, he in theory, is

656
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: a devastating playoff weapon. He is a guy who can

657
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: score out of the post, meaning that you can absolutely

658
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: throw him the ball out of a switch in a

659
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: playoff defense. That's switching and attack mismatches. And he can

660
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: space the floor, not just space the floor, but like

661
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: space the floor to the elite level, Like he could

662
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: shoot six threes a game and make forty two them. That,

663
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: in theory, should be a really devastating playoff player. And

664
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see whether or not that really amounts

665
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to anything. Um home for the Spurs next. We already

666
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: talked about their roster. I have this as another Lakers win.

667
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: How about you? Yeah, me too. Yeah, it's still young team.

668
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: We went into the mory so uh. Last game in

669
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: the first fifteen is the Bulls. They added a Lonzo Ball,

670
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: Demarta Rosen and Alex Caruso. Um, this is a team

671
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: that has really varying opinions. You've got guys on their

672
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: online we think they're gonna be great, and then you

673
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: have guys who think they're gonna be terrible. I put

674
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: this as a tough game. I think the Lakers are

675
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: more equipped to handle this team defensively because they don't

676
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: have fantastic dribble drive guards. Most of their offense centers

677
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: around really aggressive jump shooting from Levine. You know, Alonzo

678
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: has turned himself into a really aggressive jump shooter, and

679
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: then Demarta Rosen who likes to attack mismatches in the post.

680
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I see this as a team

681
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: that that kind of plays into the Lakers matchups. So

682
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: even though I actually am higher on the Bull than

683
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: most people are, I do believe in their formula. I

684
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: think the Lakers will win this game by about ten

685
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: points because I think it's a good match up. What

686
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: about you, Yeah, I mean too. I went back and

687
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: forth with winner loss. I ended up on the Lakers

688
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: winning this one. Chicago is like a real test case

689
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: for like what matters defensively in the NBA. Right, they

690
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: have all these like not all. Obviously Tomarrojamarto Rose, and

691
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Zach Kalvine aren't great, but Lonzo Ball and Alex Cruso

692
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: are good on ball defenders. But in their back line

693
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: they have Vukovich as their main, you know, rim protector.

694
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be interesting to see if they can

695
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: even keep a good defense with that. And obviously when

696
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you play Alonzo and Alex Scruso, you give up a

697
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: lot of offense as well, So I'm just wondering how

698
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: that works and then Zach Lawe Jamada Rosen kind of

699
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: going to kind of do the same things. Um, So

700
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how they work. But they

701
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: did put a bunch of talent together, like they have talent,

702
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much it impacts to winning,

703
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how how that works. But

704
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: you have the Lakers winning this one. I don't think

705
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: the Bulls um can defend well enough inside. I think

706
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: a D will be a lot for you know, Lebron

707
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: and they have nobody that can guard the barn. Yeah, exactly,

708
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: and again the perimeter defenders. You give up a lot

709
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: of offense when you play those two together. So I'm

710
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: just interest to see how that works. I think the

711
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Bulls will be an okay playing team. That's where I

712
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: have them at Zavine Demarmarta Rosen should be able to

713
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: rack up a good enough regular season wins to put

714
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: them in the plane, but I think they lose at stables.

715
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: You So you have them at twelve and three. Am

716
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: I accounting that correctly? Yes? Yes, I do. Okay, So

717
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I had them fourteen in one and I wanted to

718
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: explain why because there are a couple of coin flip

719
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: games that I had going for the Lakers. And this

720
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: is something that I've talked about on the podcast before,

721
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to quickly reiterate it. You know,

722
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: it's really easy to sit there and be like, oh,

723
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, classic Lebron team coast through the regular season,

724
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: and you know, they like they're they're they're not going

725
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: to really be trying to win all these games. Oh

726
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: there's basketball fit, you know that takes time. Blah blah

727
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. They're gonna I think I think the Lakers

728
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: are gonna win sixty five games this year. And I've

729
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: laid this out before, but the reality of the Lebron

730
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: A D experience has been that when Lebron is healthy,

731
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: they absolutely try in the regular season. They try harder

732
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: than just about every team in the end be A

733
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: in the regular season, you know, maybe then the other

734
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the other than maybe the Bucks, so like the and

735
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: that is evidence in their defensive ratings, and it's evidence

736
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: in their win loss record. They won sixty They wanted

737
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: a sixty four win paste before the bubble last year,

738
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and they wanted a six or two years ago, and

739
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: they wanted a sixty four win paste before the Lebron

740
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: and a d injuries last year. So the reality is

741
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: is when they're healthy, they try to win. If the

742
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Lakers are are not in uh near the top of

743
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: the standings, in my opinion, it will only be because

744
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: of injuries. And if you look at that schedule, every

745
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: one of those games is winnable. They absolutely they don't

746
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: play a real contender at all in that first I

747
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: mean maybe the Sun's if you're counting the Sun's maybe,

748
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: but like they don't play any of the top tier

749
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: teams in the league in this first fifteen game stretch.

750
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: They will probably in Vegas be favored in every single

751
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: one of them. So it is absolutely in play that

752
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: they could go fifteen and No. I'm picking fourteen and

753
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: one because I think they will drop one of them.

754
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: But I I I really think people are going to

755
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: be surprised at how well the Lakers mesh pretty quickly

756
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: and how well they attack the season. And lastly, the

757
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: people are obsessed with the Russell Westbrook fit. And I

758
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: think Darius Oriana laid this out the other day on

759
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: his pod, but the Shrewder fit for for the fact

760
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: that Shrewder is obviously an inferior player to Russ. It's

761
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: a similar basketball dynamic though, and this is something that

762
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: I addressed on Twitter a couple of weeks ago. But

763
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: like the Lebron is familiar with what it's like to

764
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: play with the ball dominant guard, and people are are

765
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of over and and if you're concerned about spacing

766
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: issues with rust, do you think people regarding Dennis Shrewder

767
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: out by the three point line now? So, like, in

768
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's going to be a very similar fit

769
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: to last year, just with a much better player. So

770
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I expect that in Lebron and a d one went

771
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: twenty four and three in their first season together to start,

772
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think fit and and that and integration

773
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: is going to be much of a problem. Yeah, And

774
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: at twelve and three, I kind of looked at it

775
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: from percentage point, that's about a sixty five and a

776
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: half win pays um eighty two game regular season in

777
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: twelve and three fourteen and one isn't that crazy much off?

778
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm going off that twenty one and six kind of

779
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: very pessimistic. Um. What's funny though, after after those fifteen games,

780
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: the next two games are actually Milwaukee and Boston, So

781
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: that's a kind of nice little test there, um those

782
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: two games right after that. But you're right, this is

783
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: a really easy schedule and they should win a lot

784
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: of these. You're gonna hear a lot of strength of

785
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: strength of schedule kind of arguments again, ready for that,

786
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: like it did in nineteen. But yeah, a lot of

787
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: these should be wins. Man. The league kind of hooked

788
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: them up a lot of home games against a really

789
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: bad team, So you should be able to rack up wins.

790
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: And I think in the regular season that matters, you know,

791
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: getting some wins, getting some confidence, you know, as a

792
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: good team. Um, when you have a good record, it

793
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: kind of plays out through the year and really helps out.

794
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: So um. I think also with the new team, that's

795
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: a big deal. And Westbrook, Lebron and a d is

796
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: just enough talent to bulldoze um more than percent of

797
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: the league to me, no matter what system or whatever

798
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: chemistry it takes to build with them. So I agree

799
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: with there should be fun. It should be a fun

800
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: season fans back in the stadiums, I think means a lot.

801
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Um those first regular season games early in the year

802
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: last year just felt dead a lot of the times,

803
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: just no energy, and uh, I think crowdback means a lot,

804
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: so that we should have a good start here. I

805
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: think fifteen games is a nice kind of benchmark that

806
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: we looked at there. Um and yeah, we have them

807
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: winning a lot of games early. So hopefully this doesn't

808
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: backfire and they're like they're like seven and eight or

809
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: something to start. But but but yeah, this should be

810
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: a good, good start this season. I would be absolutely

811
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: flabbergastaid if they lost more than three years and that start. Um,

812
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna move pretty quickly through these next couple

813
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: of topics because we only have about thirteen minutes, so uh,

814
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: really quickly. Frank Vogel did an interview with the Spectrum

815
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Sports Net, and the two main things that you and

816
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: I took away were him saying that region Rondo was

817
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: going to basically be Jared Dudley. We won't talk about

818
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: that per se, but I think that's good news for

819
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: both you and I because that was one of my

820
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: biggest concerns when they brought him in, was whether or

821
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: not he was gonna take minutes away from some of

822
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: the other cards. Um. The one we will talk about

823
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: is Frank mentioned that he doesn't know if a D

824
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: is gonna play at the center and that it's gonna

825
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: end on training camp in which groups look good together.

826
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go first, but I'm gonna say

827
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm calling BS on this one. What do you think? Yeah?

828
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: I think he was just giving all of you guys

829
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: a bone, you know what I mean. You guys have

830
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: kind of been waiting for this, for this kind of news,

831
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: and he kind of threw it to you. I'm not

832
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call it BS, like I

833
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: do think he goes into training camp like with an

834
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: open mind. Obviously, every coach is going to go in

835
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: with who they think, right Vogel, this is his life,

836
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: so obviously he's been drawing up rotations since you know,

837
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: August or whatever September for what he thinks. But I'm

838
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: sure if he goes in and someone kills one of

839
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: the power four is just kill it. Let's say a

840
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: reason is just amazing in camp. Maybe he starts, you know,

841
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: at the at the three, with Lebron at the four.

842
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: So I think that is an open possibility. I think

843
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan has or Dwight Howard has to kind of

844
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: lead in this to be the starting uh starting center

845
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: but I think it's open, and I think it's good

846
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: to hear him say that as well. So I don't

847
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't call it BS, but I do think he

848
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: has an idea of his rotation would be. But I

849
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: think training camp things can't change. People can win. I

850
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: think th ht of really impressed in training camp in

851
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: preseason last year and put him in the rotation when

852
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: you know it probably wasn't sure if he was going

853
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: to be So I think there are there are spots

854
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: to be taken in and with the Rondo news, it

855
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: means that like you know, uh, Kendrick Non Maligue Monk

856
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: are probably gonna get those minutes at backup guards. So

857
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good thing as well. Right, Yeah,

858
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: So I would say that this is just my prediction

859
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna find out here pretty quick.

860
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I would say that they absolutely know what the starting

861
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: front court is going to be. I think it's gonna

862
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: be Lebron and a D at the four and the five.

863
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: That's my prediction and we will see um. But regardless

864
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: whether it's a D at the four with Dwight or

865
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: or DeAndre Jordan at the five, or a D at

866
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: the five, whether that's one or two spots. I do

867
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: think that the one or two guard slash wings that

868
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna put next to Russ and Lebron and a D.

869
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: I absolutely think that's up in the air. My guess

870
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: is that that will be entirely based on camp and

871
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: I really think it could be anybody if I had to,

872
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: If I had to pick, I would guess that it

873
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: will be Ellington and uh and Aresa. That's start. That's

874
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: just my guests will be Russ, Ellington, Areza, Lebron e D.

875
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: I love that lineup defensively, and I love that lineup

876
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: with the shooting around UH, the A D at the

877
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: five lineup to create driving lanes. That's my favorite starting

878
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: lineup combo. However, you could you could make the case

879
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: for anybody to me. I think Kendrick nun is somebody

880
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: that I don't expect to start. But I wouldn't be

881
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: surprised if Malik Monks somehow got it. I wouldn't be

882
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: surprised if th Ht somehow got it. I wouldn't be

883
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: surprised if Baysmore somehow got it. I think every one

884
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: of those other guys is absolutely in the equation and

885
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: training camp will be when they fight for and earn

886
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: that spot, if that makes sense, right, Ran. There's a

887
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: little other tidbit that vocals hit in there. It kind

888
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: of went unnoticed, a little hit I saw. But he

889
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: was talking about the defense, right, and they told him

890
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: a lot of our defensive guards went out this summer.

891
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: He said, they did, but we did get a lot

892
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: of kind of players back that you know, aren't liabilities,

893
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: is what he called them. And then um, he said

894
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: about the defense, Um, the guards will have help back

895
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: there again like they did in twenty money. So you

896
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of referred to the uh he kind of referred

897
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: to the Yeah, he kind of he kind of slid

898
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: it in there and went kind of unnoticed, but I

899
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: made sure to write that down. You know. He said,

900
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: hell back here again like they did in twin twin,

901
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: referring more to me to the shop blocking, right. I

902
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: think that's the difference. Dwight Howard and uh DeAndre doner

903
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: more shop blocking type of bigs than Harrow and drummondware.

904
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: So the treas and Mark just weren't just Mark vertical exactly.

905
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: So you know, these little TIBs he throws out there

906
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: it could put us in any direction. I'm just I

907
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting as well, when you, uh, when

908
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: he referred back to that title team. But it's gonna

909
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: be interesting. We'll know really soon, so we'll know in

910
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: a few days anyway, but I just thought those were

911
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of interesting takes from him. Yeah, I'm glad you

912
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: mentioned that part about the defensive liabilities, because that, to

913
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: me is the is the key difference. Like, do the

914
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: so the last year's Lakers lacks defensive liabilities almost entirely, right,

915
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: like maybe aside from Ben McLemore, like, all of their

916
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: guards were good defensive guards and and we however, this year,

917
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: do they have weak defensive cards? Yeah, they do. They

918
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: have some on the roster, like in wings like Carmelo

919
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: that's a weak option. Leaku Monk at this point in

920
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: his career, that's a weak option. Russell Westbrook has shown

921
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: a tendency to be you know, we've talked about it,

922
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: but he's he's he's capable of being a good defensive player,

923
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been in recent years. Same thing goes

924
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: for Kendrick Nunn. However, they will apt Frank will absolutely

925
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: have access to lineups that can defend at the guard position.

926
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Will he have options that will be more offensive oriented, Yes,

927
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: but he will be able to go th Ht Russ,

928
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: bays More, Ellington. Those four players are all capable of

929
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: being above average defensive players, and so from that standpoint,

930
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: he will always have options. If if the offense is

931
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: stilted and he needs to get Lebron and a D going,

932
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: He'll be able to put a D at the five,

933
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: put a ton of shooting out there, and Lebron and

934
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Nadie will build their confidence. If it's a rock fight

935
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: like that game against Miami and it's just like we're

936
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: we're in a in an ugly fist fight, it's two

937
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: eighty two, four minutes left in the fourth quarter, he'll

938
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: be able to go to lineups with more physical point

939
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: of attack guards that will be able to hold their

940
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: own On that end, it's there's a more defense. There

941
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: are more defensive options than people are letting on outside

942
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: of the Laker fan base. I think, yeah, no, I

943
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: agree with that, and they should be able to keep

944
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: a company defense and Vocal seems Um seems ready to

945
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: do that. But I'm really interested to see how it

946
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: looks and how he kind of builds that. Uh, if

947
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: he goes back to that kind of defense, or if

948
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: he starts eight and Lebron at the four or five,

949
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: we kind of switch a little more. So interesting see

950
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: how he goes with it. But we're not pretty soon,

951
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: so we have about seven minutes here. We're gonna talk

952
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: about the Ben Simmons situation, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

953
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: let you go first on this one. So the obviously

954
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons situation in and of itself is complicated,

955
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: but it's been kind of attached to this larger narrative

956
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: having to do with player empowerment. So I think I'm

957
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you the broad question, what are your

958
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Ben Simmons situation and uh, what are

959
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the player empowerment movement in general? So

960
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: to me, these are two separate entities. Like to me,

961
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: this is a totally different situation because usually in the

962
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: player townament era, players who are at Ben Simmons age,

963
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: he's like twenty four who are star players. Ben Simmons

964
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: a star in the name, he's been an All Star

965
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: and all that, who is on a long contract. The

966
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: reason they want to leave is because it's not a

967
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: winning situation, right, That's usually the way, so they pull

968
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: themselves out of it. It's not a winning situation. They

969
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: want to go somewhere where they can win games and

970
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: make money and live in a nicer area. Right, that's

971
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: kind of the way. This is not what's happening with

972
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons situation. He wants to leave a good team.

973
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: Philly was the one seed last year. Like, we lose

974
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: this because they lost to the Hawks in second round,

975
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: but they were the one seed. I think they won

976
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: sixty games or they want close to it. They want

977
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: like fifty maybe they want like fifty seven. Whatever, they're

978
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: a good team. They'll still have their good core, interactive

979
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons or to have stayed um. But to me,

980
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: this is totally different than the player powermon area. Now

981
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: what's going on in Oklahoma City. I feel like that

982
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: should be more of what people should be looking at,

983
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: like what's going on there. To me, that's a bigger

984
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: issue that the lead should be looking their eyes at.

985
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: Adam similar has totally just you know, took a blind

986
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: eye to that, letting them do whatever they want, let

987
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: their star go home in March because they want to

988
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: lose games. Like, to me, that's that's what we should

989
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: be looking at Ben Simmons situations and totally different. DC

990
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Rivers should not be going out and saying he doesn't

991
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: know if his star point guard he can win with

992
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: when the star point guard is signed for four more years,

993
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: like he's been the lead too long to say these

994
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: kinds of things. If Joel and Beat says that, Okay,

995
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: it's his teammate, you know, he's not. Really It's not

996
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: his job to kind of have pr relations or whatever.

997
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: DC Rivers, part of his job is to be good

998
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: in the media, Like that's part of his job, he's

999
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: part of. Part of his job is to be paid

1000
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: to do that. So I think this is a totally

1001
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: different situation. Ben Simmons obviously felt disrespected and wants to leave,

1002
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: and I don't really blame him. Now, Ben Simmons deciding

1003
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: not to show up to camp, I think that's a

1004
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: threat that I'm not sure he'll really go with. I mean,

1005
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money to give up. Um. I

1006
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: saw like Brian Windhorse said he got paid like half

1007
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: his salary are ready or something weird? Um, because you

1008
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: know Rich Paul of course, how dare they you know,

1009
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: get their clients their money early. But uh, obviously it's

1010
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Rich Paul's fault. But uh but yeah, so I think

1011
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: this is just a different situation to me, Like it's

1012
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: it's totally new. This is not why star players leave

1013
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: or are leaving. Ben Simmons is a totally different situation.

1014
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: So that's how I said, how do you see it?

1015
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Do you kind of go with that or you think

1016
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: this is all in part of the plant Parliament area

1017
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: as well. Also, what's happening in New Orleans to me

1018
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: is another thing that like people should be looking at

1019
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: with Zion, you know what I mean. I think that's

1020
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: a bigger thing the league should be looking at, rather

1021
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: than this Ben Simmons situation, which to me is totally different. Yeah,

1022
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: you're preaching, Roger. I agree with literally everything that you're saying.

1023
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: I would argue that there are three completely separate situations

1024
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: taking place here. There is the Ben Simmons situation and

1025
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: the problems that the Sixers should have with the fact

1026
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: that he hasn't improved at all, um not not anything

1027
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: that they should be able to actionably do anything about.

1028
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: But however, there is conversation to be had about Ben

1029
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Simmons and how like, uh, culpable he is in his

1030
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: lack of improvement. Then there's an issue with the player

1031
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: empowerment era. Right, There's a conversation to have about the

1032
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: problems that could manifest in the long run for the

1033
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: league with the health of the of the fan bases

1034
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: if you continue to let players flex their way out

1035
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: of contracts with many years left. However, that is not

1036
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: at all related, in my opinion, to this specific situation.

1037
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: The Anthony Davis situation with the Pelicans, that's a great example.

1038
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Grass is greener. On the other side, Star just wanted

1039
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: to go to a better team in a better city.

1040
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: You know. The Khi Leonard situation is very different. He

1041
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: had a problem with the athletic training staff, you know. Uh,

1042
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: but he did do some flexing when he went to

1043
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: the Clippers because he was asking for basically, you know,

1044
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: completely uh, you know, outrageous favors from the ownership groups. Like,

1045
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: there's a conversation to be had about player empowerment. I

1046
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: just don't think it's related to the Ben Simmons case.

1047
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: In the Ben Simmons case, you have a player that

1048
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: has been like directly attacked in the in the press

1049
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: by Joe l Embiid his co star and by his

1050
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: head coach and a general manager has gone out and

1051
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: openly shot the guy. He has every right to want out,

1052
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: and I and I will be I think it would

1053
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: be a huge mistake for Darryl Moorey if he decided

1054
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: to try to withhold any salary, because I think all

1055
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: the players in the league are watching this situation and

1056
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: I think it would directly impact their ability to sign

1057
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: free agents in the future. But I think it's important

1058
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: for us to delineate all those subjects, like Ben Simmons

1059
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: deserves criticism for not improving. The Sixers should absolutely pay

1060
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons until they trade him. If they want to

1061
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: hold out for a better package, by all means, go ahead,

1062
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: but they should absolutely pay him because they are partially

1063
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: responsible for for him wanting out. And then the situation

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Speaker 1: with UH with player empowerment, there's a conversation to be

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00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: had there, but it's separate. Those are all separate issues

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00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't kind of bleed into each other. If

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00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense. No, it does. And I see people

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00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: talking about Ben Simmons game like, oh, like you know

1069
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: he still does this and he's still Like to me,

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, his issue was never his game. It's like this,

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00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: it's a lack of aggression, it's a you know, it's

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: a lack of like uh using his talent to where

1073
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: he could, like if he just didn't shoot would be

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00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: a bigger issue. So to me, his game he isn't

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Speaker 1: even a part of this. Like, this is totally different.

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00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: This is a whole different situation to me, um than

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00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: what people are talking about with this has nothing to

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00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: do with the James Harden situation. Comparing to that just

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00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me, Like he wants out due

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00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: to externally or factors. Right, most players who want out

1081
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: it's because of what's it's because they're not winning. So

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00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: to me, it's a totally different situation. And withholding money,

1083
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: like I don't know, we joke about clutch, but I

1084
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: mean that's not an enemy you really want in the

1085
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: league to me, like like so I'm just I'm just thinking.

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00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Also it's a bad look as well, just withholding with

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00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: holding money from a player, it's just it's just not

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00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: a good look on your franchise. And to me, I

1089
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: would have let Doc go before I go through this

1090
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: fire like I mean, like it's just to me, like

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00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: that's the movie here, Like I mean, DC Rivers. I'm

1092
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: sure it's a good He's been named as a player's coach,

1093
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: which is hilarious about you know, it's kind of funny

1094
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: how this worked out. But like just I feel like

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00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: I would have let go before I go through this

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: flame with VN Simmons um. And again, this could have

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00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: all been probably avoided if none of these comments were public.

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00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: But you know, what goes in public is probably half

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00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: of what's said in private, right, Like just think about

1100
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: what they say in private if if what came out

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00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: publicly came out. So this probably has been brewing him.

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons isn't dumb. He knows they shopped him for

1103
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: James Harden and that's part of the NBA. That's not

1104
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: that's not That doesn't mean he should have asked for

1105
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: a trade. Then I'm just saying like this is stuff

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00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: that's all been building. But it's totally different. Man. Like

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00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: again I said, like, what's happening, Okay, see what's happening

1108
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: in New Orleans to me is a thing that Lee

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00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: should be looking at. This is totally separate. This is

1110
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: uh something that Philly has done to themselves in my opinion,

1111
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: and Ben Simmons is at fault. He shouldn't be passing

1112
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: up dunks and that's the fourth quarter of Game Seven's

1113
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: like that. He should not be. He needs to be uh,

1114
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: he needs to help hold himself accountable for all the

1115
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: stuff on the basketball court. But this is totally separate

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00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: from that. And I think I think you've kind of

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00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: talked about this as well. So I think he's gonna

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00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: be traded. I think they waited too long though, like

1119
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: the seasons about to start. I don't know what they

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00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: do here. What can you get a D'Angelo Russell trade package?

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00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: Just doesn't really I don't know Doo much. And again,

1122
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: it's such a it's such a like one of one

1123
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: situation because usually when you're the one seed, like you're

1124
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: not giving up your star player for anything. But just

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00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: a different situations that I haven't really seen before that

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: can even compare it to. Because you can't just trade

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00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: him for first round picks. That does nothing for Joel

1128
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: em Beats. So I don't I don't know where they

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00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: go from here. I don't know what they trade him for.

1130
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: But he looks like he's done in Philly. Yeah, I

1131
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: think I think most of this has been posturing to

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00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: try to get as much as they can out of him.

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00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: Um uh. And my guess is Daryl will eventually bite

1134
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Speaker 1: the bullet because I don't one in doubt, don't go

1135
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: into training camp with drama. Like the Sixers are a

1136
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: legitimate contender, make a deal so that you can go

1137
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: from day one of media day all the way through

1138
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: to the end of the season without turmoil. I think

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Speaker 1: that there's some value to that, and that's, for instance,

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Speaker 1: why I think the Anthony Davis trade happened in the

1141
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: summer and not during the season for example. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the last thing, the very last thing, and I'll

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00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: be really quick as I need to leave. I don't

1144
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Speaker 1: like the comparisons between Ben Simmons and Draymond Green. Um.

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00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: To me, they couldn't be more different, you know, uh

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Speaker 1: for starters offensively, every everyone just kind of attaches two

1147
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: things to each other, like can't shoot and good passer,

1148
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: and then they just use those two things to immediately

1149
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: marry the two of them together as as similar basketball players.

1150
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: To me, in just strictly between those two skills, they

1151
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: could not be more different. Draymond is the best back

1152
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: line defender of this era in terms of communication and

1153
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: ability to disrupt things around the basket, either vertically or

1154
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: using his body to put people off balance, or using

1155
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: his hands down around the lane to to disrupt little

1156
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: drop off passes and things along those lines. Draymond is

1157
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: actually not great out on the perimeter guarding really quick,

1158
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: shifty people. It's not a strength of his. Ben Simmons

1159
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: exact opposite, just a a wing defender that will just

1160
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: swallow up any super elite offensive player out there. It's

1161
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: a it's a completely different defensive skill set. And then offensively,

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00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: they're both great passers. But Draymond Green is a great

1163
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: passer when the defense is already compromised. He's great at

1164
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: making reads. Ben Simmons is someone who breaks down the

1165
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: defense and makes great passes, either by shoot the ball

1166
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: in transition or beating people at the point of attack

1167
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: to get a second defender involved so we can kick

1168
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: out to open three point shooters. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to clearly differentiate between those two guys in that

1170
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: regard and the reason why Ben Simmons is so much

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00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: better in my opinion, in terms of a long term

1172
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: prospect is the fact that Ben Simmons it can absolutely

1173
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: generate advantages and if he can get over some of

1174
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: his mental hurdles, he could be a devastating playoff player

1175
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: because of his ability to attack mismatches. If that makes sense. No,

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00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I think those comparisons are

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00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: way off to me, Like Draymond is one of the

1178
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: best competitors ever as well, just their mindset when they

1179
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: go into these big games is totally different. Like it's

1180
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: just not even fair to compare them to right now,

1181
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: where Ben Simmons is, his talent might be more than

1182
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: Draymond is, just overall in terms of what he can do.

1183
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: It's just trying those players where they're at right now,

1184
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: and the careers just wouldn't be fair to Draymond as well.

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00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: I agree, yep, I agree. Al right, everybody, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. We gotta get rage out of here. We

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Speaker 1: will get this uploaded to the podcast feed shortly. As always,

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00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: reappreciate your support and we will see you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone,