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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Hey. It's Monday, the twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: of November twenty twenty two. Turkey Day is over and

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Speaker 1: we're back to business. Bitches Hi, it's the best podcast

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Speaker 1: in all of MMA. My name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: am merely one half of your hosting duo. I join

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Speaker 1: you as I always do, mostly anyway, from the capital

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Speaker 1: of status and newist right here in Washington, DC, joined

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Speaker 1: by my friend who looks like Jimmy Neutron if he

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Speaker 1: fell off a truck and just got into the meth business.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. What's up? Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 2: H Luke, thank you? And if I do. If I

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Speaker 2: happen to look unshowered and unpleasant, that's because I am Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so here, I am ready to ball up the fist

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Speaker 2: and come back fighting after a fantastic weekend of family,

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Speaker 2: you know, fun Turkey Tortierre, as the French Canadians would call,

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Speaker 2: uh meet pye, Luke, I don't really want to know

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Speaker 2: about your gourmet meal that you ate with your brother

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Speaker 2: and sister who are ex famed restaurant tours. I am

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Speaker 2: wondering how much MK talk happened at the Turkey Day

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Speaker 2: dinner table. Bring it. This is what the people are

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Speaker 2: here to see. Congratulations to Larisa, But this is the

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Speaker 2: lead combat story this week, Luke.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say this. I got to give him credit

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Speaker 1: in the sense that they were very nice to me,

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Speaker 1: like truly genuinely, very very nice, very kind. I actually

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Speaker 1: had a good time, but not one question about MK

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Speaker 1: zero zero is the answer.

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Speaker 2: So your dad didn't say, hey, do you guys end

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Speaker 2: up winning that back to back at best MMA programming

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Speaker 2: or not? He didn't bring that up.

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Speaker 1: No, that wasn't brought up. The show wasn't brought up

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Speaker 1: in any capacity whatsoever. But they were very friendly. I

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Speaker 1: mean I'd be lying if I said they weren't.

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Speaker 2: Tukes had funk.

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Speaker 1: Tukes had a blast. So that's what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: it was good, but there was zero MK talk.

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Speaker 2: Well today I hate to be like you know, George

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Speaker 2: Tig and try to spike the ball on your star, Luke,

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Speaker 2: but I was overwhelmed with love and support at Uncle

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Speaker 2: Tony's house. I didn't realize that cousin Connor and cousin

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Speaker 2: they're like, yo, I listened to that all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, what, so shout out to my family, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Although cousin ry RAI was like, remember when that guy

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Speaker 2: you did the show with you save that other job?

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Speaker 2: They used to be real annoying. I'm like, yeah, you knew.

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Speaker 1: It, Tell me about it, tell me about it. I

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Speaker 1: hated doing it, but I had to do it to

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Speaker 1: make to pay for the bills. All Right, we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to today. So PFL happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, pretty big results. Actually, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that and all the different championships that were handed out.

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Speaker 1: There was an update in the Connor McGregor you Sawa

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Speaker 1: saga sort of. We'll get to that because it's kind

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this shit? A lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've got good shit. I've got got some decent

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, big talk. We shall see

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Speaker 1: you've been you've been teasing it on the pre show,

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Speaker 1: you teased it on text. We're gonna see about that,

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Speaker 2: Little teaser. We're gonna be in the studio on Wednesday

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Speaker 2: this week. So there's nothing like that live magnetism of

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna bring phrasing two men coming together. I

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Speaker 2: But well it depends depends who's directing our photo shoot,

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Speaker 1: Okay? So overall a scam?

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Speaker 2: Price car was the scam? Was it a scam to

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Speaker 1: Just I mean just no Vasilyne just yes. Was a

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Speaker 1: All right, if you're ready, I'm ready to get this

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Speaker 1: But let's get to the actual results themselves. Kayla Harrison

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Speaker 1: losing in a shocker, a monumental upset. Larisa Pacheco wins

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Speaker 1: via a unanimous decision forty eight forty seven. I think

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Speaker 1: I thought this was never gonna happen, no chance. Hoisted

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Speaker 1: and what you made it at all. What does this

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Speaker 2: or friend of the program, who produced instant receipts that

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Speaker 2: he more or less called this as a possibility in August.

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Speaker 2: As you can find out, it took me a few

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Speaker 2: against them, or even every single fight. You know, what

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Speaker 2: Kayla said ahead of this fight is this is in

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Speaker 2: a rivalry. If my opponent has never won a round,

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Speaker 2: well she has now. But for Larisa Pacheco, she had

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Speaker 2: last losing to Kayla three years ago.

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Speaker 1: But it was her.

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Speaker 2: Complete, well rounded game that won her this and that

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Speaker 2: If she had come out there, you know, fell behind,

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Speaker 2: won it. She won it by essentially going into the

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Speaker 2: same areas in which Kayla Harrison typically dominates opponents and

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Speaker 2: then not only prove that she wasn't going to get dominated,

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Speaker 2: but with her jiu jitsu, proved that she what she did.

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Speaker 2: The best thing she did outside of largely keeping Kayla

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Speaker 2: jiu jitsu an absolute threat, which made Kayla's aggression oftentimes

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Speaker 2: ineffective even in top position. That completely changed this fight,

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Speaker 2: because when you don't allow Kayla Harrison to dominate you

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Speaker 2: then you got to go on the feet with her.

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Speaker 2: And that's Larisa Pocheco's game. That's where she landed the

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Speaker 2: bigger shots. That's where at times it looked like she

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Speaker 2: was forcing Kayla into almost like not desperate shots, but okay,

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Speaker 2: crap I gotta try to change the momentum of this

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Speaker 2: fight type of shots. I did not believe that Larissa

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Speaker 2: Pocheko would win in this manner, which is beating the

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Speaker 2: great Kayla Harrison in base every single category across the

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Speaker 2: board for twenty five minutes, keeping up the gas tank,

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Speaker 2: constantly making the big adjustments. I had at three rounds

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Speaker 2: to two, like the judges, I thought rounds three or five,

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Speaker 2: three and five you could have flipped either way depending

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Speaker 2: on how how you saw it. I don't agree with

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Speaker 2: Jed Meshu and his WT stance on one round one

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Speaker 2: being a ten eight round for Kayla, but I'll say

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Speaker 2: this close fight, but the right fighter one and Luke

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Speaker 2: she went into Kyla's wheelhouse to do so. That was

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Speaker 2: not on your bingo card or bronze steader.

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Speaker 1: No chance, No, it certainly wasn't. I was surprised. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I certainly had completely under valued the abilities of Pacheco.

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Speaker 1: I totally wrote off the possibility. I mean again, if

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Speaker 1: I thought if she was gonna win, it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be she was getting dominated in, not landed a lucky

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Speaker 1: shot because she is heavy handed, She's got some good striking,

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Speaker 1: but that that would bail her out. But that really

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Speaker 1: wasn't the case. To everything you said about essentially having

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Speaker 1: to fight mostly really on Kyla's turn, in the sense

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Speaker 1: that Kayla would go for takedowns and then sometimes they

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Speaker 1: The second problem was she was able to get the takedown.

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Speaker 2: It was the activity, dude. When you mix the activity

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Speaker 2: That's the key to that fight. I can't believe it happened, though, Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I thought Cardio was pretty good too, Obviously she's a

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Speaker 1: I take my hat off to Pacheco. I apologize for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I want to pitch it right from you,

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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily see complacency. I just saw somebody who

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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, people hate these answers, but

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Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta dig deeper in the wound because I

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Speaker 2: it's still harsh. I want to unfortunately, dig even deeper

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Speaker 2: flip side of that, Luke, is it just that you

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Speaker 1: you know, if anyone's got them, it's PFL. But you know,

430
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: UC doesn't even have this division. Beltore doesn't even have

431
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: this division. It goes on and on. It's not like

432
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: it's some kind of you know, worldwide division. She is.

433
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 1: I want to say this one more time, Kayla Harrison

434
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: is not just a decorated judoka by a mile, by

435
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: a mile, she is the best judoka in American history.

436
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: No male has ever won the gold medal. She's got

437
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: two of them. She's got two of them, and she's

438
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Speaker 1: out out down there on American top team with Mike Brown,

439
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: Steve Maco. I mean, it's like, dude, she's just built

440
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 1: for success in every way you can imagine. But I

441
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: do think if there was a bigger division, she might

442
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: have lost earlier in her career BC. That's what I think.

443
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 1: I think she got really good and it's not a dude,

444
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm not in any way doubting. She trains hard, but

445
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: it's different when there's a legitimate fear of like, holy fuck,

446
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: I have to I mean, I got a turn out

447
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 1: for every rock, cross, every t dot, every eye to

448
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: make sure I get ahead. I don't know if she

449
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: had that competitive pressure on her until Friday night.

450
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Speaker 2: That's why I asked these sort of specific questions. And

451
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: in the end, it probably is a little bit of everything,

452
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: because look, she didn't implode, she didn't gass out. I know.

453
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't a complete audit. It was just a competitive

454
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: fight in which she lacked the ability to find that

455
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: extra door to open to come over the top. Yeah,

456
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 2: came up. Sure, she definitely was challenged in her cardio,

457
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: which never happens. She was definitely challenged. And like we said,

458
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean when she had Pachaco in very vulnerable positions,

459
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 2: Pacheco was either offensive enough or provided enough a threat

460
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 2: to make Kayla average in those positions, and that was

461
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: shocking to see. But Luke, I have so many questions

462
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: related to this. A big one is, what do you

463
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: do next in relation to like, you know, Sean O'Connell said, like,

464
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: this might be one of the biggest upsets in anime history,

465
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Speaker 2: you know, in odds wise and history wise, it might be.

466
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Speaker 2: But Kayla also didn't have access, unfortunately to opponents before this,

467
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: of this ability level, with this exact story of having

468
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: come up empty twice and then found a way to

469
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: come over the top. And let's give Larissa Patiko a

470
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: chance to show us that she's wore a class an

471
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: elite moving forward, how do you book the future? Kayla

472
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: told Arielhwani and The m Aour last week that she

473
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 2: has two fights remaining entering the twenty twenty three season

474
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: and there's no extra clauses involving matching or anything like that.

475
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: So Luke, does she do they run back another season

476
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: although I don't know if you could because she only

477
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: got two fights left to try to produce this fourth

478
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: meeting between them, or do you just go right back

479
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: to the pay per view well and launch this pay

480
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: per view division, which was the big cornerstone of signing Kayla,

481
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: and have these two rematch outside of a tournament for

482
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Speaker 2: another shot at that title. What the hell do you

483
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: do now?

484
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: If you're I mean, do you really need to do

485
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: another one to fifty five women's tournament. You've got other

486
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: weight classes use them. Uh. And then, by the way,

487
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I don't even think they

488
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: have a one to three five division. You know, they

489
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: for excuse me, for men the bantamway division. They could

490
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: get one there, they could try to move into that direction.

491
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they already have a bunch of what you're

492
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: saying is they've got already bloated like bloated like, uh,

493
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: what's blow lightweight, They're like bloated featherweights already.

494
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I'm not I haven't looked at

495
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: their full roster in that way. But I guess I'm

496
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: trying to point out is dude, you just rematch them.

497
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I was gonna ask you. And

498
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: it kind of leads into this question like whether or

499
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: not this loss was good or bad for PFL. And

500
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: the answer is, well, it's bad that their star figured

501
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: that they put so much in kind of got upset.

502
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's actually good for them in

503
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: the sense that now you've got a rivalry, Now you've

504
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: got someone who's a legitimate test and her trying to

505
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: get the title back from Pacheco, even though she has

506
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: the two wins prior, is actually very intriguing and we

507
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: don't really know if she can do it. That was

508
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: a tooth and nail fight, and you can imagine Pacheco

509
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: is going to be quite motivated to hold on to it.

510
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: So I think you can do that, and then she

511
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: could have some fight against Aspen Ladd or whoever the

512
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: fuck down, and then.

513
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: Is that still in play? Is it still in play?

514
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: A Cyborg, by the way, is going let's and it's

515
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: gonna box in what second? Cyborg just announced she's gonna

516
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: box in the co main event for the Bud Crawford

517
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: fight in December tenth, So she's in boxing at the moment.

518
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: But do you see a pay per view super fight

519
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: between brands in twenty twenty three if if Kayla wins

520
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: back the title.

521
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't, I don't, I don't. I just

522
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: don't take seriously the idea that Beltmore and pfl are

523
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna work together, and you can blame whoever you want

524
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: there either both, and I mean, who the hell knows.

525
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I just don't really buy that they're going to work

526
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: together for that I would love to be wrong, certainly

527
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time, but I just I'm very

528
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: skeptical of that. So you see, let me ask you,

529
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Speaker 1: what do you think they should do? My view is

530
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: fuck the tournament one fifty five, have them rematch. You

531
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: can find some other fight down the line. Thereafter, you

532
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: can try resigning whatever you want to do, but you

533
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: don't need to make a one fifty five tournament again,

534
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: no thing.

535
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: And you nailed the two key parts of it. Like

536
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: the first key part of it is just go right

537
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: back into a fourth fight between them. The history is there.

538
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Plus if Kyla wins it, she's right back where she was.

539
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: If she wins it, it's an amazing fight. God, you

540
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: can have another rematch if you wanted to, or you

541
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: can still keep her on track. For all this stuff,

542
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: we just sniffed out the potential of a Cyborg pay

543
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: per view or whatever else it would take for PFL

544
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: to keep Kayla, And maybe that's another separate discussion for

545
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: another time, but either way, for the immedia future, this

546
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: brought Kayla down, but you got to set up that rematch,

547
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 2: and the fact that there aren't any other real lightweights

548
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: is the biggest factor whether you want to do a

549
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: one forty five or one thirty five tournament. Most of

550
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: the people you have masquerading at lightweight are only there

551
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, enter the Kila discussion and

552
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: try to win a million dollars in that tournament because

553
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: it's available. But if you can put something together at

554
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: one forty five, I guess you'd do it. Yeah, but

555
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: you know in the end, this this plays better for PFL.

556
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 2: It does, Luke, it really does. But without knowing the

557
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: outcomes of next year, is it when I just mentioned PFL,

558
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: will you know do their best to put Kayla in

559
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: a position to want to resign? Is that even in

560
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: play in your mind? Or is it automatic that she's

561
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: fighting out the last two and moving on in your head?

562
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: I think that these two might have run their course together.

563
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I think they probably ran their course already. I don't

564
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: think Kayla wants to be there, and over time, if

565
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: you keep I mean again, if they can't come to

566
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: a deal at this point, Kayla might be able to

567
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: move on. But imagine that they did have matching rights

568
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: or something like that again, where they could really lean

569
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: into that, you know, just keeping someone here on your

570
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: roster that doesn't want to be there. This just leads

571
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: to bad shit down the road. It leads to more

572
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: press in the bad side than is worth keeping. So

573
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: I think this is probably going to be the end

574
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: of their relationship. But remember something, BC, dude, Kayla Harrison's

575
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: not twenty five, she's thirty two. She's thirty two, so

576
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: I guess she'll be thirty three by some point next year.

577
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: This is not exactly over the hill, but this is

578
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: if you're going to go to the UFC or some

579
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: other promotion or something else big. It's right now. Michael

580
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Chandler was thirty four when he made the lead from

581
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: Billetford to UFC. That's a little bit older and at

582
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: different circumstances and different athletes all that kind of stuff.

583
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's like this has got to be it.

584
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I think they've run their course together. They've both benefited

585
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: from the relationship, but all relationships tend to run their course.

586
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 2: But the UFC thing, though, unless they adopt my women's

587
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: heavyweight idea, like she still hasn't proven that she can

588
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: make one forty five consistently, and that's exactly what she

589
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: would have to do to go to the UFC and

590
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: get those fights with Amanda whoever else she can find.

591
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, dude, if she fights Pacheco again

592
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: and can't win, I don't think that that necessarily means

593
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: she couldn't sign with UFC or couldn't sign with BELT.

594
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but that might change her options

595
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: on some level. It's hard to know really exactly what

596
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: it would all mean. But I think if she gets

597
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: her belt back and she has the championship to like, hey,

598
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I reclaim this and now I'm even better, and like

599
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: she let's say she goes up there and looks amazing

600
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think that would really boost her fortunes.

601
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: But if she loses again, maybe she does stay with

602
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the PFL, because that really would be her best option.

603
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: It's really really hard to say.

604
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: I got one more question to you before you move on.

605
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: Is the PFL structure system as ale, which essentially means

606
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: you have to win four fights in an eight month period.

607
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Now it's not unheard of beltor you used to have

608
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: the tournament season that was so grinding. Are we undervaluing

609
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: as we just talked about the main event and now

610
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: transitioned to the undercard, How difficult. This is compared to

611
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: regular you know, regular MMA and what we're used to. To

612
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: be forced to fight four times in eight months. I mean,

613
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: not everybody gets there physically, just just to make it,

614
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: you know.

615
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm glad you brought that up because

616
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: Blatsoar under Bjorn Rebney, it's so funny. PFL basically does

617
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: what they do. I mean, there are some meaningful differences,

618
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: but that was kind of what the Beltar experience was

619
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: like under Buorn Rebney. And he got kenned in twenty

620
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: fourteen after he introduced this like pool where guys didn't

621
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: have to go into the tournaments anymore, and then they

622
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: brought in Scott Coker and it was a whole thing.

623
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: But I remember talking to guys who were working under

624
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: that system and what they feel like they were What

625
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: they told me was not to a man, not everyone

626
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: of them, but a couple of them definitely said this

627
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: was that they felt like it took years off their

628
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: professional career and Beltor was doing it. But remember their

629
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: system back then was a little bit different, so it

630
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: was almost like if you made it through the tournament,

631
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: it was almost like one every month, So you know,

632
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: you're you're fighting three times in ninety days or something

633
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: like that. It was brutal. It grounds some of those

634
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: guys into dust. I think Pat Curran got ground into

635
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: dust for doing all those things. And it really sort

636
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: of shows you how fucking remarkable that Patricio Pitbull is

637
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: that he did numerous tournaments. Yeah, and look at him now,

638
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: like he's for that iron Man.

639
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he has whatever they have down there that

640
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: produces humans like Chogun and RDA and Big Nog. I mean,

641
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: it's just they're they're just they're made.

642
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: They're amazing. They're a question dude. It's a fucking grind.

643
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: And like you see these guys partly when they win,

644
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: they're happy that they won. They got the money, they

645
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: got the belt. What's the first thing, like half of

646
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: them said when they were interviewed, this is the hardest

647
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: fucking thing I've done in my life. I came into

648
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: this one injured. I came so the last one injured.

649
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: I've never done anything so difficult. Like they're telling the truth, man,

650
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: They're telling the fucking truth about how difficult it is.

651
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: Even if you discount that the quality of oponent might

652
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: be somewhat lower than you know, even they were in

653
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: UFC or whatever. Just the regularity with which they have

654
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: to show up to claim that belt under the difficulties

655
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: which they're competing just is insane. It's very, very, very difficult.

656
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: So something to think about there. Speaking of which PC,

657
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: we go down to point number two. This was really

658
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: my favorite moment from the whole night. I gotta tell you, man, Brendan.

659
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: They kept saying Locknane, but I always thought it was

660
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Brendan Locknan either way. Point number two he goes from

661
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: being a Dana White Contender series point number two Boys

662
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Contender series cast off to now a millionaire. He did

663
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: it and becomes PFL champ at one hundred and forty

664
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: five pounds, stopping Bubba Jenkins in the fourth round. But

665
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: really that that path was set early on in this fight,

666
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: brutal leg kicks, phenomenal boxing, and he got it done,

667
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: stopping Hi Multiply in the fourth PC. He was overcome

668
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: with emotion. They brought his family into the cage. This

669
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: was truly triumphant. What would you say is the best

670
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: way to characterize the victory of a guy who gets

671
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: cut from the Contender series, goes through all this difficulty

672
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: and ends up here.

673
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, blood, sweat and tears is the best way, because

674
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: he had to earn it every single step of the

675
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: way to make that transition in front of our eyes

676
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: as oh, yeah, that's the guy that got the hard

677
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: luck with Dana way, you know, or that that's the

678
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: guy that got screwed, or that's the guy whatever, because

679
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: he went for too many takedowns to become in this

680
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: battler and that's what he is. Look, none of these

681
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: stops on this ride to winning this one million dollars

682
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: were easy or where him as a you know, overwhelming

683
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: betting favorite. This fight, in particular against Bubba Jenkins was

684
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: an exact perfect representation of that grind where he gets

685
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: his nose busted up early and and and gets wobbled

686
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: by Jenkins and is fighting through the constant blood flowing

687
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: yet is chipping away with half kicks in eating a

688
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: fair share of his own that we're just brutal to watch.

689
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean, the toughness Bubba Jenkins showed to push Brendan

690
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Locknane to have to put forth a performance like this

691
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: is just really in a lot of ways, what this

692
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: tournament is all about and what does make it unique

693
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: as a potential free agent offering to anybody out there

694
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: in the MMA game, because you know, you get the

695
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: chance at the one million dollars for sure, but you

696
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: get put in the damn meat grinder. And it was maybe,

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, opro pos that that Locknane had to prove

698
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: it in this way, but like every other stop in

699
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: this journey to get here, he just bit down and

700
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: proved it. He's very good. But this was as hard

701
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: earned as it could be. And that seems to be

702
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: the story of his career to this point. So you

703
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: got that real emotion. We'll see that wholesome moment with

704
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: my Feci shortly. But Luke about this million dollars and

705
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: we can, you know, keep it on Locknane for sure.

706
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: But is that like a bonus on top of what

707
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: they already make or do they need to win all

708
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: the fights to get one million into totality. I did

709
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: always wonder that, do you have.

710
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the latter.

711
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't.

712
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it just covers with with what you

713
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: would get into perse. I think it's the bonus on top,

714
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: but you don't get just one million at the end.

715
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: It actually comes staggered. But yes, it's ultimately I think

716
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: an extra million in prize money, but it's not. Hey,

717
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: here's a one million dollar check, take it to the bank.

718
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. Uh BC, I gotta tell

719
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: you a quick, quick, uh pop quiz for you. Brendan

720
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Locknan defeated who on the Contender series. Wow, don't remember.

721
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: No is Is he a hammer? Uh?

722
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. He's pretty good. Oh, you weren't there

723
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: when we went to the Extreme Coutur. It's Bill Algio,

724
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Bill Algio Senior Prefecto over an extreme coutur who, by

725
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the way, you know, I think he lost his last fight,

726
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: but he gave old Herbert Burns the business. That's who.

727
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Brendan Locknan beat like he didn't beat some like terrible

728
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: guy who you never heard from again. He's a guy

729
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: who made his way to the UFC and has done

730
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: quite well for himself after the fact. He's only had

731
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: one loss in PFL to Movlid Habulayev, which was a

732
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: split decision. He's beaten everyone else. He fought in let's

733
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: see April, he fought in June, then he fought again

734
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: in August, and then he fought again over the weekend

735
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: and absolutely brutal fucking stretch he heard.

736
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Do you hear him? After the fight, He's like, dude,

737
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: I was you know, crazy for.

738
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Think about this? Think about this. He fought on the

739
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: twenty eighth of April and then if on the twenty

740
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: fifth of November. That means in the course of seven

741
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: months he fought four times, four times in seven months.

742
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I don't care if these opponents aren't

743
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: as good at their very best against the guys of

744
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: the UFC, that is insanely difficult to do. He stopped,

745
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: he decisioned three of them, and then for the Chip,

746
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: then against Bubba Jenkins put on the performance of his

747
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: fucking career with those unbelievable calf kicks. I mean, he

748
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: tore Bubba Jenkins apart. And dude, this was the most

749
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: amazing part. And they talked about on the broadcast. Bubba

750
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: Jenkins is striking maybe the best I've ever seen it

751
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: in all of his careers, training with the Black Cobra

752
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: Dewey Cooper the whole time, an amazing, amazing leveling up

753
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: of his abilities here, but he was not to be denied.

754
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: Remember this conversation we had. I think a couple of

755
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, BC, where we're talking about, like, if we

756
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: only ever talk about the guys in the UFC Hall

757
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: of Fame, you're just missing a lot of what makes

758
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: MMA great. You're missing a lot of the stories. Perfect

759
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: fucking example, Man.

760
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: This Saneil MAGNI don't miss that future Hall of Famer.

761
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

762
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: I never said he was a future Hall of Famer. BC,

763
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: you're just making a joke about it, But I'm trying

764
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: to be serious for just a second. You miss stories

765
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: like this. You missed guys maybe not getting treated fairly

766
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: by promoters and having to re route their whole career

767
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it just turns into a

768
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: different level and they've got to figure it out, and

769
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: then they do, and then they do, and he did

770
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: it with sensational ability the whole way. You cannot feel

771
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: anything but great for Brendan Locke. What a win, what

772
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: a performance, and at this point, now what a champion.

773
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, we questioned the PFL going to

774
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: pay per view at the last minute for this right,

775
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: this wasn't announced to open the season. Even Kayla was

776
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: outspoken and critical of that decision because she said she

777
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: wasn't getting any extra points. She didn't give the promotion

778
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: a chance to help them promote it. It was all

779
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: kind of last minute. But yet if you did pay

780
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: for it and watch it, you almost got a steady

781
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: stream of these make good stories. You know, am to

782
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Rob Wilkinson, I mean, look, it was like you physically

783
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: watched in front of you people that had an early exposure,

784
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: had an early chance and stumbled or or the timing

785
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: wasn't right and fought back and Locknane was the perfect

786
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: example because he rallies back and wins with blood trickling down,

787
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: and it's this emotional scene. But I guess that's the

788
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: core of what PFL offers. I guess I ask about

789
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: the grind of the season, and do wonder if it's sustainable,

790
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: because you know, we saw different Bruno Capolo's Ray Cooper,

791
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: the third in the past year sort of seemed like

792
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: they were ready to come out and go full bloom

793
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: and then they got hiccupped, whether it was it injury

794
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: or tough loss or whatever. So this is not easy,

795
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: this tournament, but uh, these stories. In watching it all

796
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: break out, I felt like I was touched a few

797
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: times while watching this card, Luke, and maybe the smart

798
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: cage knew that in advance because it's you know, I mean,

799
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: maybe you know I didn't have my fence like I didn't.

800
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: I didn't have to watch enough Mark for the.

801
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Minds of like the executive meetings when they like plan

802
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: this ship out. What do they say is smart about

803
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: that cage?

804
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Like, what do they it can pick up the miles

805
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: per hour of of of the swinging bag, Luke as

806
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: it sways. I think that's that's what it is.

807
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: But just this series of absolutely useless, fucking status.

808
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: They shout out, you know, sweet baby Ray Flores of

809
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: course you know.

810
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Him right, and him by the way, him and the announcer, yeah,

811
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: yeah he did.

812
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Don't spoil my thunder anything. But by the way, him

813
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Ray and Raoul Marquez not Raphael. I can't believe like

814
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: holding that. The other day they were on the Zeppaida

815
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: Progray call, which we'll get to you. But yeah, you're right,

816
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: sweet baby Ray's brother was what's his brother's first name,

817
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: it's a I forget, Yeah, sweet baby raised brother Miguel, Miguel.

818
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Thank you, I've botched that in the moment shout out

819
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: to Miguel Flores, who we've met and know from boxing.

820
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: But you know, he did a very nice job on

821
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: that pay per view card. But Luke, as you look

822
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: up and down this cart, I mentioned getting hit in

823
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: the fields a few different times. Did you see Anti

824
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Dalia facetiming with crow Cop afterwards as he got we'll

825
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: get to that.

826
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: We'll get that one last thing, one last thing, because

827
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: that's point number three, So we'll move on very quickly,

828
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: very quickly. BC. We've talked about with Kayla do they

829
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: do another one fifty five at tourney? Different circumstances there,

830
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: but with locked in as champion, do they just sign

831
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Shane Burgos? They've got other players here. There's one hundred

832
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: chance they're going to do another Featherway tournament, right and

833
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: they should, Oh.

834
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And the and we talk about him having

835
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: his sort of full full you know, full turn movement.

836
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Let's see now if you could defend it, it's physically

837
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: not easy. It seems like the stakes and the opponents

838
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: are only going to get better as you know. Look, PFL,

839
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: like anybody who's competing with every other major organization, is

840
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: trying to create divisions that are loaded enough where they

841
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: can say, like when them call fault Cory Anderson, is

842
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: this the best light heavyweight in the world, the winner

843
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: of this PFL in their own way, Luke is starting

844
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: to populate some of these divisions fairly well.

845
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: Certainly true. All right, So to your point, we move

846
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: now to point number three, which was the rest of

847
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: the card. Now BC Personally speaking, I thought that the

848
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Butt and aspen Lad fight sucked the horn. It was terrible,

849
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of other really good fights.

850
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh, hold on, hold on, you don't skip over. That's

851
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: another redemption moment that this card offers. But did you

852
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: agree with the scoring as aspen Lad, you know, ends

853
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: the losing streak?

854
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: I yes, more or less. Why did you not?

855
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I felt that third round? I think you flip a

856
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: coin and in whichever direction you went, you know, that's

857
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: the fight two to one. Look, So it's like it's hard,

858
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: look because aspen Land overall did what she had to

859
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: do and had a fighting spirit and kind of took

860
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: away some of those real negative areas she was doing

861
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: with her striking, making a lot of noise, not covering

862
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: a lot of distance. She got rid of that. She

863
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: was active. Well, she wasn't overwhelmingly awesome against a stubborn

864
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: tough out with a nine inch reach advantage in Julia Budd,

865
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: were you impressed by Aspen? It was like I, yes

866
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: and no is the answer, right?

867
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes and no? Like I was, I definitely thought

868
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: one point five was a better weight class for her.

869
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's this zero debate about that, okay. And

870
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: there were some parts of her game, like early in

871
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: the first round when she had the back and she

872
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: had a risk control and she was going to work.

873
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here we go. But then it

874
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of faded a little bit down the stretch. So

875
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I would say, good first attempt on the career restart.

876
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I would say that, would you not agree to that?

877
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: A good first attempt on the restart?

878
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: Yes? Because that they did not give her an easy

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: opponent that was a very tough out.

880
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: You No, they didn't, Okay, So b C, I'll pitch

881
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: it back to you. Aside from the Bud and the

882
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Aspen lad fight, what else stood out to you in

883
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: this card that was either good, bad, or otherwise noteworthy.

884
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the continuation of the thread that started

885
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: with Locknane and just this redemned or pataiko actually you know,

886
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: just this constant red dmption bring it all the way

887
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: back around. And Auntie Delia, the heavyweight champion, you know,

888
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: had already beaten Mateya Scheffel, who was upset minded with

889
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: that big right hand. But that first fight was a war,

890
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: and this was a war for the you know, half

891
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: of a round that had happened. And you know how

892
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: about Auntie Dlia like that. He was never a favorite

893
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: sun the last two years in this heavyweight tournament. But

894
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: to see him stand in and take big punishment which

895
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: he's often had to in his biggest wins, and deliver it,

896
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: be the last man standing and then get to FaceTime

897
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: crow cop his you know mentor in countrymen there and

898
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: you see the Croatian fans at the Garden Theater were

899
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: like jump in the guardrails for him. Hey, another good moment, Luke.

900
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: And you know he makes fun fights. You can't really

901
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: say anything bad about him, No you can't.

902
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: For me, I was gonna say, oam to me was

903
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: maybe the most impressive in victory Wilkinson. You could make

904
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: a case for as he really bodied O mariuch Medel

905
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: of the first two rounds and finally getting the soapage

906
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: in between them basically, but dude, Oam with that right

907
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: hook completely shutting the lights off of Stevie Ray. And

908
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: let's be clear about something like Stevie Ray can grap

909
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. He had a matt return to a

910
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: back take on Oam which he had to fight out of.

911
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Oam was one of these guys who was initially like

912
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a wrestler type a little bit in

913
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: UFC and retold his game, repositioned everything, really worked on

914
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: the details and gets a phenomenal finish, like a no

915
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: bullshit one hit or quitter. And they showed the replay too,

916
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: because Stevie Ray kind of moves afterwards, but his eyes

917
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: are like all over the place. It was just a

918
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: really triumphant moment. I love the PFL stories in the

919
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: sense that a lot of times promoters are selling you

920
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit about you know, what the story

921
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: means and how significant the victory is. Here's how you know,

922
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: like that's really not in play. Here look at how

923
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: much it means to the winner. The winner puts an

924
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: extraordinary amount of significance. And we're not talking guys who

925
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: are like, you know, nineteen years old and this is

926
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: their first big taste of something great. We're talking guys

927
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: who have seen the mountaintop, fell all the way back

928
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: down and then had to climb all the way back up.

929
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: They had to really do it the hard way, everyone hardway,

930
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: and got.

931
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Every single one as a hard scrabbled story, like as

932
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: much as Locknane fought and crawled and the exactly Oam

933
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: did to get to this point. It's wild. I mean,

934
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: look like again, it's like, was this worth the pay

935
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: per view? I was entertained because these fights, people went

936
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: at it. There was a lot at stake with a

937
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: million dollars. I mean, it was successful if if PFL

938
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: wants to make the Championship always a pay per view thing, Luke,

939
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm not against that, you know what I'm saying, But

940
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: at least it delivered entertainment wise. I want to also

941
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: bring up because this guy will not be in have

942
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: you seen this shit? But Jeremy Stevens got subbed in

943
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: round two against Natan Schultz, and Luke, that does drop

944
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: him to one in seven with one no contest going

945
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: back about four years and the one win was a

946
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: split decision. When so what's the future here? For a

947
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: thirty six year old little heathen who still is the

948
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: hardest hitter Luke at one forty five.

949
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this man, I interviewed him. I've

950
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: interview him many times, but like the last one was

951
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen, seventeen something like that. He was still

952
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: in the UFC, and he I've brought this up a

953
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: number of times because it all was stuck with me

954
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: and I asked him about some fight he was offered.

955
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was at the time,

956
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: and like, did you decline it? He was like, I

957
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know we could decline fights. He wasn't being serious,

958
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: he was sort of doing a bit. He's like I've

959
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't ever, ever, ever, ever declined fights,

960
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: and we love him for it. The problem is, dude,

961
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: you might shorten your career doing that because you're gonna

962
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: fight fucking hammers left and right, and even even in PFL. Dude,

963
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: Natan Schultz is not a household name, dude or Natan

964
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Schulty pronounced it. He's very good. He's like, he's a

965
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: legit fighter. It wasn't like they if he left the UFC,

966
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: great out of the frying pan right into the fire

967
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: for him. This is what happens when you take It's

968
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: not like he doesn't work harder, was with a good team.

969
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: All that stuff's true, but he's taken a ton of abuse,

970
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of miles on him.

971
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's before the show we're starting to

972
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: see whether it was Rory, whether it was Pettis now Stevens.

973
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: It's if you come here as a free agent from

974
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: another big organization and you're in your twilight, you're gonna

975
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: get It's not easy. You have to come like you.

976
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: You know, you might as well go somewhere else where

977
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: you can just make fun action fights, you know, against

978
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: other names or whatever. Because the Meek Rind are starting

979
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: back up again next year. The season is going to

980
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: start again, and that cage ain't getting any dumber. Luke, Okay,

981
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: you know you know where I'm going with that. I'm

982
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: sure you don't.

983
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: We'll get to the can that cage get me tickets

984
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: to the Meadowlands when Pantera opens from Metallica.

985
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: I think if you asked nicely, Luke, we'll get to

986
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: the Reisch Bowl later. And the other title, Sad the

987
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: other title win with SADABUSI had a largely boring.

988
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, pretty boring.

989
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: Went over to Lonal Taylor, but he's also a you know,

990
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: redemptive champion. A lot of great stories there for the PFL. Luke,

991
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: So all right, before we move on for PFL, last

992
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: question about it. Give me a grade for everything, for

993
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: the pay per view, for the price, for what you

994
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: got for it, the whole nine yards. What would you

995
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: say was the bang for your buck on that whole thing?

996
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: That's hard when you say the price, you know, and

997
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: and look, it's also hard for us to talk about

998
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: that because you know, when was the last time I

999
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: paid for a pay per view?

1000
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: Luke?

1001
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: You want to know what the answer is?

1002
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Never you get them reimbursed. I haven't got mine reimbursed

1003
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: in a while.

1004
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: I always had a black box or I work somewhere

1005
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: where I got reimbursed. And maybe that's you know, but

1006
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: I certainly know what it's like when you're like, do

1007
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: I do this pay per view or do I take

1008
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: my family somewhere and there's not a lot of you know,

1009
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of money, which combat sports puts

1010
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: you in that position. Boxing loves to put you in that.

1011
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: So was it considering the price and that the fights

1012
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: were really good. Look that main event, but check o'harrison

1013
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: was drama. It was great, it was high level, it

1014
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: was fantastic. The card delivered, it did it really freaking delivered.

1015
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: But it definitely shouldn't have been a pay per view,

1016
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: so B B.

1017
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's about right. It was actually a

1018
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: pretty good card. The only two fights that kind of

1019
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: of sucked word the Ladin Bud fight and then the

1020
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Sea and then Taylor fight. Other than that, it was

1021
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: pretty great all the way through, great stories, great pacing

1022
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: for the most part. As you mentioned, main event really

1023
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of delivered, certainly in terms of drama. So yeah,

1024
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: I give it about it shouldn't have been a pay

1025
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: per view, but I give it about a B as well.

1026
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: Not a bad effort all around.

1027
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: I suppose altogether. Do you think now that we're another

1028
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: season in the book, the announced team of O'Connell, Florian

1029
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: and Randy Coutour, do you think that they're you know,

1030
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: world class, that that that they're coming they're coming along?

1031
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Where do you how do you sort of grade them live?

1032
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I did hear them pronounce the names so that I

1033
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: could do well in today's show and didn't listen too

1034
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: much after that.

1035
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

1036
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not the best person to ask this question.

1037
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Why do you like them or not?

1038
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do like them. I do like them. I

1039
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: don't think they're great yet, meaning I think that they're

1040
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: still they're still getting used to each other. But they're

1041
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: they're very good. They are very good.

1042
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I will say this. I've heard a lot of Sean

1043
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: O'Connell because we worked together at Serious XM, but he

1044
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: was still actually in the PFL when he won his

1045
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: final season and then quit and then became like full

1046
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: time broadcaster. Sean O'Connell had a background in radio before

1047
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: working for Serious XM, and then when he got there.

1048
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: I remember I was talking to our our our program

1049
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: director at the time, and she thought he was so

1050
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: good and she was right that he was, like he

1051
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: should be doing college football for like Pac twelve stuff,

1052
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: and he ended up doing that as well. So, like dude,

1053
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell is a very talented broadcast. Here's the thing.

1054
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: PFL has a hit with him.

1055
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: If he wasn't a fighter and he just walked on,

1056
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: which I thought at first he was, and I, you know,

1057
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: I hadn't done the math and oh yeah, that was

1058
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: seanal call. He's really good. But you add in that

1059
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: he's also a fighter, and I think it just throws

1060
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: this story through the roof, like this should be more

1061
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: of a front page story, the transition.

1062
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: Not just a fighter, a guy who came in their

1063
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: system and then won it, like proof of.

1064
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: A guy who for being a fighter, he has taken

1065
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: over the play by playrole, which has certain responsibilities that

1066
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: are different from being an analyst that that are challenging,

1067
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: and has pulled off not only that part flawlessly to

1068
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: be fair, but knows when to fit in analysis himself

1069
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: having been a fighter, so you know that that timing

1070
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: and that that that sort of decision making and discipline

1071
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: is hard to develop over years of reps. And he

1072
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: gives his color men a lot of room to do

1073
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: their job.

1074
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Well.

1075
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he's the glued to that team, Luke,

1076
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to get a lot. But

1077
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always been a big Randy guy, you

1078
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1079
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Always, Yes, Yes, Randy's obviously pretty good butt.

1080
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: Look, he might be he might be the best fighter

1081
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: analyst of all time. People are going to think that's controversial.

1082
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I think Brian Stan was better. Brian Stan was better.

1083
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: They're both American heroes in their own way. Luke, No,

1084
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he was better. Brian stand was very

1085
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: good though I did.

1086
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: I enjoyed his okay, But either way, we're talking about

1087
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: some pretty great guys, all right. You see, let's talk

1088
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: about topic number four here, moving on from PFL for

1089
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: just a second. So this is a weird one. Connor

1090
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: McGregor took to social media over the weekend to basically

1091
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: go after Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith, I think he the

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00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Believe You Me podcast with Michael Bisping, although he talked

1093
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: about it with us as well, and I'm think some

1094
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: other places, but somehow Connor MacGregor got wind of it,

1095
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: and basically what Anthony Smith's argument was was that, like,

1096
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: this is bullshit. How is this guy able to like

1097
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: get out of the testing pool, take a bunch of

1098
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: PDEs then just come back when he's ready. This is nonsense,

1099
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: And of course he recently suffered his own inkle injury

1100
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: against UNCLIAV and it goes on from there. Connor McGregor

1101
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: hated everything about this and lashed out at him on Twitter,

1102
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: saying things like the audacity of this loser than tagging

1103
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith. You're a loser. The percentage of the bones

1104
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: joining back after a break like this is so low

1105
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: you think I give an f about anything else. I'm

1106
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: the most testifighter of all time in combat sports. I

1107
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: gave everything to this game. You nothing. He went on

1108
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: and on and on from there, even putting out like

1109
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: recorded messages for Anthony Smith. But in the end, here's

1110
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: what he did say, BC, and this is what I

1111
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: wanted to have a conversation about. Quote. Everything was fully

1112
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: disclosed before I began. The state of allowance for athletes

1113
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: to recover from injuries as horrific as the one I

1114
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: over came must be assessed. My thoughts are with Wideman

1115
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: and Anderson Silva, the three of us, and only us

1116
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: know the severity of this injury. BC. Subsequent to this,

1117
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: ESPN and Mark Ramundi followed up with you decided to

1118
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: get some kind of confirmation about what the hell is

1119
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: happening here. All they said was that he would have

1120
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Speaker 1: to get back into the testing pool for six months,

1121
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: although an allowance could be granted to remember, the same

1122
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: thing they did for brock Lesnar at UFC two hundred,

1123
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: They're like, fuck it, you can just come right on end,

1124
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: and that kind of blew up in their face a

1125
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: little bit. Nevertheless, BC, we are back where we started

1126
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: a little bit, where it's like he wasn't cut, he

1127
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: didn't retire, he was not removed from the rankings. How

1128
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: is this fucking possible? It appears, and I want to

1129
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: use that word very clearly, it appears that what McGregor

1130
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: is arguing is that he received medical treatment that standard

1131
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: USAID of restrictions would not allow. But fucking he did it. Anyway,

1132
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: How do you unpack the situation? What is the significance?

1133
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: Well, pds are also really good for recovery. So he's

1134
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: making a fairly strong point right there. Yeah, in some

1135
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: way he's kind of like openly admitting things, but also

1136
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: the system and structure is kind of broken, Luke, I

1137
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: mean in some ways is it parallel to the marijuana discussion,

1138
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: not even central to just fights, but in general, right,

1139
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, you know, there's there's I mean,

1140
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: when you mix with the everybody's probably using any way

1141
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: way of looking at things, which I think is the

1142
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: accurate way. Mixed with this is a scenario where Connor's

1143
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: probably right, and this could greatly aid your recovery. I mean, look,

1144
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: didn't rip the Great Girl Dad himself. Kobe Bryant went

1145
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: to Germany for those special surgeries to get himself back

1146
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: on the court, right, I mean, what are in those

1147
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: special surgeries, Luke, Billy, but medicine?

1148
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: Right. My understanding is he went to Germany to get

1149
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: stem cell therapy, which you saw to does not prohibit.

1150
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 2: That's my I guess it fits the same larger point

1151
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: that there's you know.

1152
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know micro crocop for example, took hgh per

1153
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: the recommendations of his surgeons and his doctors to heal

1154
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: one of his injuries, and that got him in trouble.

1155
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: But that he just left you you're the you're the

1156
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: Drugs win Drugs wore a T shirt guy, Luke, you

1157
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: may be right here. So Connor admitting it. Yeah, And

1158
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: the reason why RAYMONDI got a quote from USADA was

1159
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: because Connor was kind of bragging on Twitter about the

1160
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: potential of him coming back and was sort of mentoring

1161
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: February of next year and then you know that he

1162
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: could just just come in past two tests and be back.

1163
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: And then that's when you saw to respond and be like, no,

1164
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: you have to do the full six months, And they

1165
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: said that The key part was they said that this

1166
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: situation would not meet the exemption terms that they would

1167
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: normally operate. Well, I guess it was fine for brock

1168
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: leslon right, but yeah, your point taken there, But.

1169
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: He caught his decision. It's UFCS.

1170
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, is anybody debate Okay, here's the things that

1171
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: we have to tell you. Is anybody debating that he's

1172
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: on the juice? Nobody is right. Is anybody going to.

1173
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: Hard to know exactly what that is? Under what protocol?

1174
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: It seems like it's a medicinal level to treat this

1175
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: horrifical drug.

1176
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: He also prioritized, and I'm not damning him doing the

1177
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: role in the remake of Roadhouse to which necessitated him

1178
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: bulking up and going another calendar year without a fight.

1179
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: Now he was also recovering from the leg so all that. So, like,

1180
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going to debate that he's probably,

1181
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: but I think you can also make the same debate

1182
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: that he did that using and they in the in

1183
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: the force of recovery too, Like, if you can, you

1184
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: might as well exit the Usawa pool and do that.

1185
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you're already invested.

1186
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well here's the problem. Here's the problem. Funnily enough,

1187
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: I actually had a couple of UFC fighters call me

1188
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: over the weekend. This is a true story. I saved

1189
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: it for today's story because I didn't want to ruin it. Yeah,

1190
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: are they are? They were?

1191
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: They good at fighting too?

1192
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: High level, very high level pay per view headliners.

1193
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my god.

1194
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Loke. They called me because they were very confused. They're like,

1195
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how this is possible, right, Like,

1196
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I can only get out of the testing pool per

1197
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: the rules if I've retired or I'm no longer employed

1198
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: with the organization. I'm like, well, that's certainly what they've

1199
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: told the public is the rule. But remember people are like, oh,

1200
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: Connor just must have retired and then unretired. But if

1201
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: he retired, he has to be removed the rankings. He

1202
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: was not removed from the rankings, so that from what

1203
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: we know, that can't be the case. And so I

1204
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: don't know what you saw it is or is not doing,

1205
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: but it doesn't match whatever they told us publicly.

1206
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: Are the rules.

1207
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: So this is where the confusion comes in. And what

1208
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: they basically expressed to me was, and this is like

1209
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: almost like they had had a coordinated conversation about it.

1210
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: They basically were like, they don't even care that Connor

1211
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: got to do this stuff. They really don't. But if

1212
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: he gets the option to heal this way, they want

1213
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: the option in the event that they have some kind

1214
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: of other, really very serious injury, they want the option

1215
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: to deal this way. And you know something that we

1216
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: always do on RSD for all the fighters that come through.

1217
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: I didn't do it for Glover, I should have, but

1218
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: for I do it for a lot of the other ones,

1219
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: which is like, tell me about all your injuries, guys.

1220
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 1: If you've never talked to a senior level fighter, these

1221
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: fucking guys wreck themselves to say nothing of like the

1222
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: CTE and traumatic brain injury, just the orthopedic shoulder, finger, wrist, knee, elbow, ankle,

1223
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: all that shit. All those issues get comp I mean,

1224
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: they are massive problems. And when Connor talks about how

1225
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: he wants to be able to play with his kids

1226
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: when he's older, Dode, I feel that completely. I totally

1227
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: understand that. But if he is allowed by some mechanism

1228
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: that we don't know to go and get medical treatment

1229
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: that other guys don't get. I'm not mad at McGregor

1230
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: for getting it, and from what I understand, I don't

1231
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: think the fighters are mad that he got it. What

1232
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: they want to say is I want that shit. I

1233
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: don't understand what the problem with that is.

1234
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: Look, I think this is the same situation. I think

1235
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: I said the same things when like, if you're a

1236
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: celebrity level fighter, So we're basically arguing that it seems

1237
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: like both Yusada and the company gave preferential treatment to

1238
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: a celebrity level fighter, Like how would they waive the

1239
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: clause for brock Lesnar ahead of two hundred? You know,

1240
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: obvious reasons why. And I think this is the same case.

1241
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Is when John Jones was allowed to move his rematch

1242
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: from against Gustumson because the State Commission and they in

1243
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: Nevada wasn't going to address that until the next weekend

1244
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: after the holiday, so they clear John. So everybody said,

1245
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: oh wait, let's just pack up and move it down

1246
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: to four hours away in LA and everyone's like cool, Yeah,

1247
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: during Christmas week, no problem, right, it's John Jones coming

1248
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: back after a very long time. So yeah, you're right,

1249
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: this is preferential treatment when you get to that celebrity

1250
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: level where you can flow and kind of call your

1251
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: own shots, and everyone should have access to that, Luke,

1252
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: which is doesn't this just exploit that the testing system,

1253
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: as you always harp about, which you're right, is just

1254
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: more of a dog and pony than we even necessarily.

1255
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: It's just one of the things. This is a common

1256
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: critique of anti doping, which again people don't want to

1257
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: listen to until it's right in front of their face.

1258
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: But one of the major documented critiques is it actually

1259
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: makes the dividing line between the very elite who are

1260
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: rich and than the ones who aren't even worse. People

1261
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: think like anybody who can take it will just raise

1262
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: their level and then it will just level the playing field,

1263
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: which is actually not quite right. When you have anti

1264
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: doping in place, what ends up happening is the people

1265
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: who can't afford to get around it can't afford to

1266
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: get around it. The people who can find all number

1267
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: of ways, whether it's stuff that isn't detected or whatever.

1268
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: The hell. Again, we don't know exactly what's happening here,

1269
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: but we appear that something outside of the rules that

1270
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: as we understand them. Again, I want to be sort

1271
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: of clear about the ambiguity of it all appears to

1272
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: be happening here. There's lots of ways in which it

1273
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: actually entrenches power. It doesn't do the opposite of that.

1274
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: And I want to make one more point BC on

1275
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing. It's like, listen, I understand that I

1276
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Speaker 1: have a view of antidoping, and perhaps you saw them

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: more specifically, that it's going to take a lifetime I

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00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: think to convince people, and maybe even then it's not

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00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: enough time. And I accept that, I really do. But

1280
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: what they are not entitled to is your automatic trust.

1281
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: No organization is. They are not entitled to the idea

1282
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: that they can operate at carte blanche. No organization is

1283
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: if you believe in their mission, that's one thing we

1284
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: can have a debate about. But if you're going to

1285
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: grant that they exist, all of us still have a

1286
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: responsibility to say that we don't have to agree to

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: every single thing that they do. If you want to

1288
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: say that they're the good guys, I don't think that

1289
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: that's really a fair way to put it it. Nevertheless,

1290
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: you don't allow them to just make up whatever they

1291
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: want to do or whatever rule they pass or whatever

1292
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: that we have to accept and say, well, it's because

1293
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: they're the good guys, we just have to go along

1294
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: with it. No, all of their rules and all of

1295
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: their meetings and all of their statements, all of them

1296
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: deserve scrutiny. And the last thing I would say here,

1297
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: BC is it's one thing for any organization in any

1298
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: sector to do things in a way that isn't in

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: keeping with the highest standards. We all kind of accept it.

1300
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: But if your brand, your whole brand is transparency, and

1301
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: your whole brand is trust, and your whole brand is

1302
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: where the adults in the room, and then you have

1303
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: a clear situation that again we don't know what is happening,

1304
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: but clear in the sense that there is an obvious

1305
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: contradiction here it remains unclear. You do not get to

1306
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: then benefit from the halo of trust that you told

1307
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: us you deserve, because now it's being undercut. I just

1308
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: want folks to understand, you don't have to agree with

1309
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: the totality of my position on antidoping to still be

1310
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: a critical thinker in this scenario and say this is

1311
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: blo this is bullshit and the ways in which the

1312
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: ways in which that informs your judgment about them should

1313
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: be changed accordingly.

1314
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean this is you know, I've worked in a factory.

1315
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: This is the Osha guy showing up once a year

1316
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: and you have to get everything in order. Or if

1317
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: you worked in a kitchen, this is the health inspector, right, Luke,

1318
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's all like button up

1319
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: and look good when we have to and then go

1320
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: back to regularly scheduled debauchery. I mean, this is what

1321
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: this is, Luke. I mean it's yeah. I mean how

1322
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: far are we away then from It's like we've now

1323
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: realized it all come together and be like now, like

1324
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: can we all make money off of marijuana legalization? Oh?

1325
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: This wonder drug can help so many people in a

1326
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: million different ways. Right, So can HGH on your recovery

1327
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: to keep you healthy as an athlete? Right?

1328
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1329
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: I mean if I think, but it is science there,

1330
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean I don't understand like.

1331
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: Does it help with bone fusing or other kinds of

1332
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: things that you might need in the case of what

1333
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: McGregor had. And again, there are all kinds of different

1334
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: things guys could take. Peptides and the fucking works. But

1335
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: I just feel like YUSADA doesn't have to tell us

1336
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: what's happening with Connor, but they have to tell us

1337
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: the mechanism in place by which someone can leave the

1338
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: testing pool, not be cut, not be retired, and stay

1339
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: in the rankings, because as it stands, we don't have that,

1340
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: and this, whatever the fuck is happening, it just has

1341
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: to be explained. You can know the ingredients to be

1342
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: the adults in the room and do this.

1343
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: You're a giant brand and a pay per view draw,

1344
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: and you also work with the company to make really

1345
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: huge fights. All right there it is. That's that's the pact,

1346
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: right there, celebrity.

1347
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: I think he was cutting out because I heard like

1348
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: three words of that.

1349
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: That's fine, it was. It was largely bullshit. Hopefully my

1350
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: WiFi catches up in time, just to share shit with each.

1351
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: Other, Luke, hopefully all right, I still got like two

1352
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: words of that, But I'm gonna plow on just the same, okay, BC.

1353
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: A fifth and final topic. This one is near and

1354
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: dear to your heart. You know I love this guy.

1355
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: How about this fight? This one went under the radar

1356
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: because it was on a pay per view that really.

1357
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about PFL pay reviews that no

1358
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: one want to pay for. No one really wanted to

1359
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: pay for this one at all. How Regius Prograde the

1360
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 1: Rugaroo by the way, his wife is Brazilian, He's trained

1361
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: with Jose Aldo. He guy loves mma, He's a boxer

1362
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: out in Louisiana. I guess now, Houston whatever. He stopped

1363
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: Jose Zapeta in the eleventh round to claim the WBO

1364
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: excuse me, one hundred and forty pound title. BC helped

1365
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: the folks understand how legitimate is this win for Rugaru?

1366
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: Huge, huge, not just in the way he had to

1367
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: earn it against a guy in Zapeta who almost like

1368
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: in the second half of his career, has found out

1369
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: this formula to be as good as he can be,

1370
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: and he's a tough title off for anybody, and he

1371
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: makes fight of the year after fight of the Year contenders,

1372
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: almost accidentally. But this was more about the arc of

1373
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: Regis Progra in the end, because he was a guy

1374
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: who you know, was once this this warrior with the

1375
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: fun mask and the Rugaru background, all that, you know,

1376
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: the nickname and all that stuff, but never got the

1377
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: right deal at the right time promoter network manager wise

1378
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: to get ahead in the more traditional ways and was

1379
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: almost looking like he was wasting away on the bench

1380
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: trying to get more big fights. Well, he had that

1381
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: big unification against Josh Taylor. We know what happened there,

1382
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: Fight of the year, great performance. He lost by that

1383
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: close on the scorecards. And it took this long doing

1384
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: the mandatory system and getting involved with the alphabets to

1385
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: work his way back up the old fashioned way. And

1386
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: even though this pay per view, you know, shout out

1387
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: to Marf Nation, the promoter with a big bid, probably

1388
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: didn't move many units there, these two put forth a

1389
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: performance worthy of the war grounds there in Carson, California.

1390
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: Won't be a Fight of the Year, you know, leading nominee,

1391
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: but it was a fun fight because both were willing.

1392
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: But Pro Gray proved that he's still got a lot

1393
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: of gas left here even in his thirties. In this division,

1394
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: he grabs an important belt, he stops the paida late.

1395
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: It was always a you know, it was a boxing match,

1396
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: but it wasn't an aggressive one. But Pro Gray was

1397
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 2: never allowed Zapaida to do what he does best, which

1398
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: is sharpshoot from the outside from the south paw position.

1399
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: He made him fight at relatively close range and then

1400
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: ultimately broke him down, warm down, and stopped him. So

1401
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: when you look, I'll get the landscape. Now at one forty,

1402
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: Josh Taylor still has some of the belts. He was

1403
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: the undisputed champion. He's going to rematch Caterall. Some of

1404
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: these other belts are floating around here now. One of

1405
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: these belts is around Progray's raced and his number one

1406
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: contender and mandatory contender. Next will be the former unified

1407
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: champion in the division, Jose Rameirez, who was supposed to

1408
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: be in this fight but wanted more time to get

1409
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: married and take a longer break. If we're going next,

1410
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: regis Progra against Jose Rameirez or potentially Tayo Fimo Lopez

1411
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: who's going to return Heisman weekend against a replacement opponent,

1412
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: but is in this title picture as well. Rugerum may

1413
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: end up getting the close up in the opportunities Luke

1414
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: that his talent and excitement deserves. This was a really

1415
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: good performance because you didn't really know where he was

1416
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: at in his career right here, because it's just been

1417
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: so long since he was in a real big meaningful fight.

1418
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: But how about that performance?

1419
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Man?

1420
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: It was grimy and he got it done. He went

1421
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: after it.

1422
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: I was proud of him, all right. So you mentioned

1423
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: like what could be next for him? Where would the

1424
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: fights take place? What is his contractual situation that we

1425
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: are aware of? How available is he to move to

1426
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: various networks?

1427
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: Well it depends, right because didn't he sign with Probellum,

1428
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: which had you know, deep links with Daniel Kinahan reportedly

1429
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: or very obviously at everyone declines that, So where does

1430
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: that leave him? You know? Was this odd perst bid

1431
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: win pay per view for unheard of Marv Nation just

1432
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: some front for Probellum? And can I don't know, Luke,

1433
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't know at the end of the day. Okay,

1434
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: certainly you know, far better journalists than me are at

1435
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: the roots of all that. But can he now has

1436
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: Champion work himself through who is promoting and managing him

1437
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: to be amicable to go over to ESPN and potentially

1438
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: fight Jose Ramirez in a title fight, or you know,

1439
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: go to wherever does own wherever it was needed to

1440
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: make these fights. He may end up being in sort

1441
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: of the spot he's always been, which is like in

1442
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: real interesting free agent, Why is major promoter? Why have

1443
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: they not signed him yet? He's kind of still that

1444
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: guy and some if long as he has flex ability

1445
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: within the deals he has, Luke, he may be able

1446
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: to just shop around and defend that title wherever the

1447
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: biggest offer or or most exciting opponent is available. And

1448
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, not just Jose Rimerez as I mentioned in

1449
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: that top ranked ESPN family also you're talking about Tao Femo,

1450
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: So Luke the you know, if he if he has

1451
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: to fight Jose Ramirez and Tao Femo Lopez in his

1452
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: next two fights, they're gonna be big, They're gonna be action.

1453
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: And I have to believe, you know, networks are gonna

1454
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: work together and make this happen, or his team work together,

1455
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: which whatever whichever network it would take, which in this

1456
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: case ESPN. I mean, are those front row viewing for you?

1457
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean you get yeah, that's that's insane. Those gonna be.

1458
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: Great for yeah, Like, that's that's not that's not a

1459
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: hard sell at all. It's just a question of like

1460
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: between Marv Nation and pro Bellum or whatever the fuck

1461
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to move into like top

1462
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: rank territory on ESPN.

1463
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: But they have nowhere else to go, right, and unless

1464
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: they're trying to put on these, you can't be making

1465
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: money on this pay per view. They had to have

1466
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: taken a bath. There's no question they had to it.

1467
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, So in that sense, I think some kind of

1468
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: move is inevitable. And either way Ramirez or especially Lopez, dude,

1469
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: those are sick fights because you mentioned like it was

1470
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: a gritty win, but Dode pro Gray's kind of slick

1471
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: too when he needs to be. That's the other part,

1472
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Like he can be a lunch pail and like, you know,

1473
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: meet you in the middle kind of guy if he

1474
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: has to be. But if he if he leans on

1475
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: his strengths, he's he's a fairly versatile fighter and sort

1476
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: of in my opinion anymore.

1477
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. Now now you're always gonna fear him against

1478
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: a super elite boxer with a backbone. The problem is

1479
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: those are really hard to find, right. He found one

1480
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: in Josh Taylor when that fight was a majority decision,

1481
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: twelve round, classic back and forth. I'd love to see

1482
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: that again at any way class. But if he if look,

1483
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: if pro Gray can can control on his terms like

1484
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: he did for most of us, then he can start

1485
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: to go downhill and try to break you. He Lurnszpaida

1486
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: into a kind of shootout that he wasn't gonna win, right,

1487
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: because this is an Ivan brantchick who made such a

1488
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: great war as the Paida and they knocked each other

1489
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: down like six times, but they also had flashy chins

1490
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: and those big moments to create that level of drama.

1491
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: Ruger is not going anywhere. He's gonna stand in there

1492
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: in trades, so you're gonna lose that battle if you

1493
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: to outshoot him. To really beat this this aggressive version

1494
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: of program, you have to also be an elite boxer.

1495
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: But you know Jose Ramirez is of that ILK certainly

1496
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 2: Teo Fema. I mean, these are gonna be some fun

1497
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: ass fights. And don't forget Luke all the talk about

1498
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: all the excitement at lightweight with Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis,

1499
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: Devan Hainey, now Shakur, those guys are all gonna be

1500
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: moving up to forty more or less eventually anyway as well.

1501
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: So this larger discussion of flowing fighters they move up

1502
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: in wait. Even with the network divides going on, this

1503
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia come together could be the could

1504
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: it be the beginning of the breakthrough. I mean, all

1505
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: at this weight class thirty five forty and you know,

1506
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: obviously always leading to forty seven, some of the most

1507
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: exciting fighters in this entire game. Okay, let's let's let's

1508
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: start making these money fighters. Let's get really excited about boxing. Okay,

1509
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm fired up.

1510
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: And Lopez December tenth, as you mentioned, Heisman weekend, he

1511
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: fights Sandor Martine.

1512
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 2: So, yeah, who retired Mikey Garcia. So he's not you know,

1513
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: he's not a chump. He's he's you know, he's semi

1514
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: he's pretty. He's a legit yet.

1515
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: Luke, right, very good, All right, one of remind folks

1516
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: we're getting closer to the end of the month, and

1517
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: you know what that means. BC, It's almost time to

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1533
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: this card from PFL. There was way down at the

1534
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: bottom of the card, Dakota da Cheva beating Katherlin. I

1535
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: can't pronounce your last name.

1536
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna be picking those colonels out of my shit shortly. Look, okay,

1537
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: they're kernels of gold, all right?

1538
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well she one via a right hook and hammer fist,

1539
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean a dominant, dominant puncher and striker. She looked

1540
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: tremendous on this card.

1541
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: So it took a while to get them here, Luke,

1542
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: and they've certainly taken their time, but they have blown

1543
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 2: our mind. And you know, Aaron Blanchfield on top of

1544
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: that list as well, along with many others. This has

1545
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: been a very very wild stretch these four weeks here

1546
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: to try to identify the first hamber. But somebody's going

1547
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: to get to hold that thing by the shaft, Luke. Okay,

1548
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: so hopefully it's not a female, so that this moment

1549
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: doesn't ring awkwardly true in our brain stems, you know

1550
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 2: what I mean, only.

1551
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: Your brain stem, which is terribly damaged. All right, it

1552
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: is time now for well, you guys get to ask

1553
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: us the questions. It's Tafford DMS from the Diggity Dogs.

1554
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Heehaw eehaw.

1555
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: We've got more reminder. We put up a post on

1556
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: Instagram on Sundays. You guys fill it up and then

1557
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: the producer's pick questions. All right, BC from Cole Underscore

1558
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: Brown eight five eight. What comparisons he should add? If any?

1559
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Do you guys see between Kayla Harrison and Ronda Rousey

1560
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: after their first loss in MMA?

1561
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: I got any?

1562
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: Actually, I got it.

1563
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: There's just one. They're both female. Oh, they're both two.

1564
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: They're both accomplished female Judoka's Luke. That's the only comparison.

1565
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: Here, because yeah, like Rousey imploded in a monster terrible

1566
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: upset where she was viciously put out and Kayla was scrappy,

1567
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 1: like I was a close fight.

1568
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: And Kayla went to the press conference after and talk,

1569
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: so there wasn't any of that either.

1570
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean the fact that they're both women,

1571
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: they're both Americans, and they're both blondes is really about

1572
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: the beginning and end of that one, so that I

1573
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: can think of anyway, all right, Question number two at

1574
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: coach underscore Corey ninety six again worse than ever. Who

1575
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: poses a bigger threat to Islam? I was gonna say,

1576
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: like the Crusades, no Vulk or darry USh. I feel

1577
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: as though Benil didn't get enough credit for how soundly

1578
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: he shut down Gamrack. He got a plenty from me,

1579
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: some of the best defensive wrestling I've seen in a while.

1580
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: Volk or derr USh. Who's a bigger threat to Islam? Makachev?

1581
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: I mean, darry Hush is a bigger physical threat.

1582
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: Dry Us is very well rounded dude, very well rounded, and.

1583
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: No, I know, there's no question, but he's also a

1584
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: physical threat and the clinches in with his you know,

1585
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: with his punching power. He's in ways that I question

1586
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: if Volk can be in this same matchup. Vulk is

1587
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: also a freaking wizard, so I give him more potential

1588
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: to go full bloom in directions that I didn't see

1589
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: coming than dary Uschen is such a difficult matchup, so

1590
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: while there are better there are good arguments here to

1591
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: pick darry Us for those reasons. Volk's the best fighter

1592
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 2: in the world, so I'm still gonna give him the

1593
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: chance to show me that against Mahachev. I won't pick

1594
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: him to win it. I'll tell you where to put

1595
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: your betting money. But I also respect the shit out

1596
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: of that guy, Luke, and do wonder because he's competed

1597
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: in the past a very high weights in rugby or

1598
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that was that you know, he may

1599
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: be able to just carry weight and still be the

1600
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: same guy. Who knows until we find out. Obviously, this

1601
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: is the hard way to find out, the most difficult possible.

1602
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 2: But at least they're letting him fight at home. Is

1603
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 2: Perth Homer is a too far away for any Australian

1604
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 2: to call it home, Luke. What is Perth like like

1605
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: the Siberia of down Under?

1606
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: What is it? Luke? Just a Liberian? I don't know.

1607
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know about Siberia, but like you know, it's

1608
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: definitely uh from what I understand anyway, pretty far fucking

1609
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, the argument for Vulk would be

1610
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: he is not as big, but he can match physically strength,

1611
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna be quicker, He's got you know, the very

1612
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: extremely difficult stand up to solve, and you know, just

1613
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: cardio until the bell rings basically to beginning an end,

1614
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: Like he just has unlimited nearly cardio. That's one argument.

1615
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: Dry Hush is like very battle tested, great submissions, super

1616
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: good wrestling, and like plenty of aggression on the feet.

1617
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's much of a difference to

1618
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: be I mean, there's difference in the things that they

1619
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: would offer Nakachev as threats to solve, but in terms

1620
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: of their difficulty, I don't It's hard to tell for

1621
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: it really a meaningful difference in terms of the difficulty

1622
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: between them. But I think outside with you a little bit,

1623
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: we are talking about the best fighter in the sport

1624
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: with Vulcan you know.

1625
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Like what happens if Mahachev does what will end up

1626
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: being more you know, more likely from a betting standpoint,

1627
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: but still if he goes in there and not only

1628
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: beats Vulk, and even if it's more due to size

1629
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: than anything else, but you know, he's also can do

1630
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: it without the size equation, and you know, in his favor,

1631
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: what if he goes out there, takes down Vulcan just

1632
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: grounds him up into a pulp, Like he's the best

1633
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: fighter in the world, right, I mean, are we prepared

1634
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: for it? I mean, he's gonna look unfreakin beatable. Obviously

1635
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: it's a smaller man moving up. But it's the best

1636
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: fighter in the world moving up, right, you know it's that.

1637
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if he does it, if he if he

1638
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: controls that entire fight on his terms and wins it,

1639
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Luke, this motherfucker.

1640
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but I don't know if I would

1641
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: necessarily say that, because we're just making an estimate about

1642
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: how good he is. But maybe the size really is. Yeah,

1643
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: but I like the very difficult factor.

1644
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: I like to get caught up in the drama, the

1645
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: romanticism movie. I like to get drunk on it. Luke,

1646
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: you don't think if it ends.

1647
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: Up being like that, I think folks are going to

1648
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: say that the size was too much. He needs to

1649
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: go back to one fifty five, and then Daryus could

1650
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: still lose, but be a much tougher fight, Like you

1651
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: can still be the best fighter on Earth. But if

1652
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: the size difference is too much, then it doesn't mean it.

1653
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: Don't you want to see that shit now? I know

1654
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: we're about you, but.

1655
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, dude, I'm I mean did

1656
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to see Macatcheff fight. I know these guys.

1657
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: The fact he's fighting Volk first is great, but yeah, yeah,

1658
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: either one of these fights is real difficult.

1659
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: Really, I'm just trying to let you know right now

1660
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: that I'm really excited about that fight. I'm rock hard

1661
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: with emotion, Luke.

1662
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear about your genitals. B see all

1663
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: right after Randon Blackstone. If Connor comes back and somehow

1664
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: beats Islam, I doubt that, but let's say he did.

1665
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: How would that change his legacy? Now when he says

1666
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: his I think he means Connor's I will tell you that.

1667
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if Connor has that in him, But

1668
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 1: if Connor makes anti doping more friendly for the athletes

1669
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: where they can now get things a little bit easier

1670
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: than they would be for a difficult injuries, that actually

1671
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: would be a great contribution from him long term. And

1672
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean that quite genuinely. But in terms of the fight,

1673
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you beat Islam, which you probably won't,

1674
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: that'd be big, right huge.

1675
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: Well, you freaking kidding me. The discussion we just had is,

1676
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: how is how unbeatable is Mahachev gonna look? If he

1677
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: grinds up the pound for pound king? All right? Like

1678
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. If if then Connor came

1679
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: in there and not just one punch slept him. But

1680
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: you know they got into a fight and Connor won

1681
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: the fight however he did that actually won, you know,

1682
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: not a fluke. He won the damn fight. Dude. That's

1683
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: that's not just Randy Coture level of Paul bunyanism. That's

1684
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: like maybe unique to what we've ever seen in this game,

1685
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: considering Connor's star power, considering how hated he also is

1686
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: in polarizing, and considering how right now of what we

1687
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: know is just unlikely, Like people like me who have

1688
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: always been willing from a betting and picking standpoint to

1689
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: still believe that magic and that romanticism of mystic mac

1690
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: and no, if he just puts it together for one night,

1691
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: he can beat anybody. You know, sometimes you can. You can,

1692
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: you can be an addict to wanting that thing to

1693
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: be true for for many reasons. The entertainment value, the

1694
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: influx to the sport are just no, I really believe

1695
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: he can he can do that one more time. There's

1696
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: not much left to believe that he really can do

1697
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: that one more time, and certainly gotta get Dsla Mahchev.

1698
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: I mean you kids, So yeah, dude, if he did that,

1699
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 2: that would become like you know that, like hey, GSP

1700
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: beating Bisping, move over, you know what I'm saying, Like

1701
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: that's are you kidding me? That's wild as shit.

1702
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: That'd be insane. I'd be insane. I just see it

1703
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: as so remote. For no other reason. I just don't

1704
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: think that's a fight he's even gonna get.

1705
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: You know, well, no, no, okay, okay, never doubt however,

1706
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: he plays his cards in terms of coming back, I

1707
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: would agree he's gonna have to come back and beat

1708
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: somebody and look good. But there's plenty of people they

1709
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: can give him where that's possible, like a Tony Ferguson

1710
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 2: type fight, Like it's possible we could get a Connor

1711
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: versus Seroni comeback type of like looks better than he

1712
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: actually is moment, the conversation of Connor versus Islam is

1713
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: always going to be in the front of the UFC's

1714
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 2: mind from here on out until it's completely unviable. So

1715
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: don't act like it's not like they would. They would

1716
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: drop everything to make that Luke with a Habeb connection.

1717
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's what the UFC lives for

1718
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: that fight, you know.

1719
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they'd make that fight. I don't think

1720
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: that dude. Don't get me wrong. Connor's got pull like

1721
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: no one's got pulled. We just had a conversation.

1722
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got it. I'm telling you, he's got

1723
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: to beat somebody first, That's what I'm saying.

1724
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: You gotta beat Yes, yes, I want Fife.

1725
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I want to say one fifty five, but

1726
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: he gets special treatment, Luke. So even if it's against

1727
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: old name at one seventy, but he he stops them

1728
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: and looks pretty damn spry, then he's going to call

1729
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: the shots on this. I mean.

1730
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't think I think he wants

1731
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: the title in the third way class. I don't think

1732
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: he wants it at one fifty five anymore. That's the issue.

1733
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: Well, good luck, good luck beating all those guys, first

1734
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,879
Speaker 2: of all, but also good luck beating Jamaiah.

1735
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, our good luck beating Shopcot rock Monov. We forget

1736
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: Shemaia of like, yeah, good luck all right from at

1737
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: real KEMPI not the worst name. Why do so many

1738
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: heavyweights that ever made look out of shape?

1739
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean because of the two sixty five cut, Like

1740
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: that prevents the serious fat guys from fighting so well.

1741
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's of so many factors. Like there's this

1742
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: argument about the World Cup. It's like, all if America's

1743
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: best athletes played soccer, we dominate, which is a very

1744
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: simplistic argument. It's not really true. So you know, I

1745
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: don't want to overblow it, but I do think in

1746
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: the case of the United States, dude, our best heavyweights

1747
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: definitely in terms of like physical athletes, they don't they

1748
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: don't box, by and large, they go and play in

1749
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, they go and play in the NBA or whatever.

1750
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 1: Like the vast majority of those guys are just pulled

1751
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: out of the system so they can't go do it.

1752
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: So that's one reason. The other reason is, Dude, like,

1753
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,879
Speaker 1: as a heavyweight, and yeah, I'm just the most average

1754
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: shit on earth. But it's just hard for like this

1755
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: is why Kane Velasquez was a unicorn man because it's very,

1756
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: very hard for someone to be two hundred and seventy

1757
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, sixty five but like, you know whatever,

1758
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: after a cut two hundred and seventy pounds and be

1759
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: able to have twenty five minutes of cardio, Like, it's

1760
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: hard for anyone who's one hundred and thirty five pounds

1761
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: to do that much less two hundred plus. It's just

1762
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: hard to carry around that weight and have that kind

1763
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: of stuff. Plus, we're talking about a diluted talent pool

1764
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the heavyweight division itself. And you know,

1765
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if how I mean, I do think

1766
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: these guys train hard, but like do they train in

1767
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: the very best way to the vast majority of them

1768
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: training in the way that's like super ideal for them

1769
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: to get VO two max push to the limits, I

1770
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: don't know that they do. So it's a few reasons

1771
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: in place, you see. Yeah, that's fairly Also, some guys

1772
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: like keeping a little bit of heft for their game,

1773
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: like because it gives them power or it gives them

1774
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: like the ability to like lay on top of someone

1775
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: and you know, from like side control and really own

1776
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: that space. So like part of it is there's a

1777
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: little bit of like I don't want to add too

1778
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: much muscle if I have enough bulk.

1779
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 2: Still think, you know, as much as UFC like loves

1780
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: like we always talking about putting Chase Sherman and the

1781
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: Coalmine of a fight night card against anybody because oh

1782
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: they're heavyweights thattle bang and guess what they will fat

1783
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: heavyweight should be. I know it's hard to get too

1784
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: fat league guys, right, so you don't see elite fat

1785
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 2: heavyweight fights. But I love like in all the weird permutations,

1786
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: like well, I love it when wrestler fights pure box

1787
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: or no, I love it when fat heavyweights fight luke.

1788
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: It's great, that's great. Maybe we should have a fat division, right, uh.

1789
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: We should have a fat division. Let me ask you

1790
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: not named Butterbean so you can't say him, who's the

1791
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: best fat guy boxer ever?

1792
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: The old the old version of George Foreman when he

1793
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: came back.

1794
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: Like the forty plus version who beat up more?

1795
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would like you know, be eating a tray

1796
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: full of burgers at the at the press conference to

1797
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 2: try to fool people, you know what I mean? Like

1798
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, uh, oh, we long Island. Luke is offering

1799
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: James Tony, which he would be referring to like the

1800
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: cruiserweight and heavyweight.

1801
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Because the early version of James Tony was pretty slender.

1802
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, but no, so James Tony like he

1803
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: he actually won a heavyweight tuttle against John Ruiz but

1804
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: then failed the steroid test and they stripped him. But like,

1805
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: you know, he won the cruiserweight world like he was

1806
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: so slick as a as a fat dude. Yeah, it was.

1807
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: It was pretty incredible to watch. But he was a

1808
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: smaller man adding weight. Yeah, I mean, was there Who's

1809
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: the best fat fighter of all time? And I mean

1810
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: like like an actual fact man, you know.

1811
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: Like Roy Nelson maybe, Yeah, Roy Nelson in his peak

1812
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: was really good.

1813
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean second half Fador was just giving up on crunches, right,

1814
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean.

1815
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Mark Hunt hunts all. Mark Hunt's a great call.

1816
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like uh, like the early part of

1817
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: DC's announcing career, you know, he let to go a

1818
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: little right, we're in that part still, Luke.

1819
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: It's okay though, you know that's funny all right. And

1820
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: last but not least from Color, I'm gonna pronounce his

1821
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: name wrong. Khaled Beadun. He asks, aside from the us BC,

1822
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: which World Cup team are you pulling for and why?

1823
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh? I so, do you tend to generically cheer for

1824
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: England after the us or no because you hate white

1825
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 2: people and gringos.

1826
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: Well, it's not about what white people were saying. There's

1827
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: lots of whites in the tournaments. But I never cheer

1828
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: for England. I mean, I love the English, but I

1829
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: ain't cheering for you. Dude. English fans are English national

1830
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: team soccer fans are the most pompous motherfuckers alive. I

1831
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: mean all they do all day long is talk about

1832
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: it's coming home. It's coming home. And then if you

1833
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: saw the response after the draw they had, it was like,

1834
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: well they they really let us down and they could

1835
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: have done more. It's like, dude, we fucking bullied you.

1836
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 1: Like granted, Gareth Southgate didn't bring in what's his face, Fodin,

1837
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 1: they didn't bring him in. He's real good too, but

1838
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: they got fucking bullied. I mean that's just the reality

1839
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: of it.

1840
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: And I have watched a sing go second because I'm

1841
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: joining your boycott, so I haven't watched a single second.

1842
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: I got to watch the second half of that with

1843
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: my wife. We were out for on Saturday, so I

1844
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: did see that part.

1845
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: But well, I always cheer for Lithuania, Luke, but they're

1846
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: you know, they're not.

1847
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: They don't make it. They don't make it, they don't.

1848
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: I always cheer for England. I sort of like, but

1849
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: that's sort of like the lame but that's the lame

1850
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: white person move right, kind of like how some people

1851
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: just automatically cheer for Notre Dame football a little, you know,

1852
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: because they're white, and like, it's just weird.

1853
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think the English get

1854
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: American fans to like them if anything, Like the American

1855
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: second choice would be Mexico.

1856
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I always want Mexico to be good. Yeah.

1857
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 2: I do cheer for Mexico, that's true.

1858
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: I do. Like, dude, the Mexican team is sorry.

1859
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: What about France, Like they're looked at US villains.

1860
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: But because French, the French, all jack Hammers do up.

1861
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: Chearing for him. Who is the guy with that with

1862
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: that Teddy Atlas car or that guy he was like

1863
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: an evil genius in the in the midfield for France.

1864
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah Ribery, remember that he's retired Frank River.

1865
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's retired.

1866
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, my guys are willing to but their way

1867
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: through life.

1868
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Znadians Adan, who, by the way, coached and played at

1869
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Real Madrid. Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think

1870
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: Americans would cheer for the English like that.

1871
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't cheer for the Canadians, like outside of Brons

1872
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Steatter and Jack you know, and Moro. You know, they're

1873
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: kind of the worst, right, you know, I don't know.

1874
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I like the Canadians, man, they're good people, Like, yeah

1875
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: they are.

1876
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, my people are French Canadian, Luke.

1877
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: But you know, whatever, right, the answer is, I think

1878
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: they're playing today. I don't know, maybe they're playing now.

1879
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. I think I would say Brazil.

1880
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: I'd say Brazil because they got a bunch of players

1881
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: from Madrid.

1882
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,839
Speaker 2: Cheer for Brazil, dude, that's like cheer for the Yankees

1883
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 2: or something like if you don't have like, well you

1884
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: did that Madrid.

1885
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Remember a couple of World Cups ago they got bodied

1886
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: by Germany seven and nothing. And here's the thing about

1887
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: the Brazilians, Like.

1888
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: Who cares? They'll be back in four years, Luke.

1889
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: They're always in the Yeah, they're real good. They're real good.

1890
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: But like the thing is, I don't know, they're a

1891
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: little bit choke artists, a little bit a little bit

1892
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: choke artists, but they've got a bunch of players from

1893
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: Madrid on their team.

1894
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: They're like Lebron in the finals, like Brown on the finals.

1895
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: A little bit of a choke artist. He also has

1896
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: got three rings, Luke.

1897
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean listen,

1898
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: I listen. I like to root for teams where I'm

1899
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: showing up to the casino and I'm rooting for the house.

1900
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah that's your real Madrid. You know what team I

1901
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: was real into, Luke in ninety four.

1902
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: Bullear back up, a step, back up, a step real quickly.

1903
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh like just take the l no, no, no, here

1904
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: to hear me out. There's only if you're asking me

1905
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: like like how many good teams are there in the

1906
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: World Cup, it's like three good teams. There's not that many,

1907
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: all right.

1908
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, But I do know, Luke, that I

1909
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: remember the ninety four Bulgaria Risto Stutschkov and that other

1910
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: dude that I used to pass to him like they

1911
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: were awesome. Remember they almost they almost made the finals. No,

1912
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: I don't remember that at all, all right, I have

1913
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: PATCHI memory.

1914
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Like, okay, so then would you okay, I'll say this,

1915
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: who is your like? Who is like your You know

1916
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: it's a long shot, but you really love their story

1917
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing.

1918
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's become Mexico, although that's not what

1919
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: it should be.

1920
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Right yeah, sort of, but they're sorry, like Senegal is

1921
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: a good choice for that.

1922
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great wanst to.

1923
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Be a good one for that. Croatia looked they I

1924
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: think they got they beat the ship of Canada. So

1925
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,879
Speaker 1: there you go. The Croatians bea out the Canadians.

1926
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 2: Damn. I'm sure Anti Delia was going maybe Cryst Delia

1927
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: to go nuts for that.

1928
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Right yeah? Yeah? So I mean, you know, I just

1929
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: like the Brazilian players because they play for Madrid and

1930
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 1: they're probab but they're probably.

1931
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: Like like winners, Luke, That's all I mean. I are

1932
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: you the type of kid, Luke that when you were

1933
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: doing a season in your video game and it looked

1934
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: like you were about to lose, you would hit just

1935
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 2: hit reset and redo the game. No, but but if

1936
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: you do that, you're a pos Okay, you're.

1937
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: You're you're a terrible person. I'll say this, here's my

1938
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: Cool Cup prediction. Yeah, but oh, here's about World Cup prediction.

1939
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: I don't see how the French lose man.

1940
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 2: The French team is like, do they still they still

1941
01:27:58,760 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 2: have Kareem something?

1942
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Well, uh so they have a bunch of injuries they

1943
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: have you're talking about Benzema, Yeah, who just won the ballad?

1944
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Or no, he's out, he's out. They got a bunch

1945
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 1: of injuries.

1946
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: This is the you can't play through paying the yo

1947
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: ming and the old way the Olympics played through a

1948
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,879
Speaker 2: broken footage.

1949
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think you should be challenging

1950
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: how how manly he is when you're a couch potato.

1951
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: But the point I wanted to make is Luke, I French.

1952
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: Fought through the emotional trauma to get here, not the physical.

1953
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay exactly. Yeah, that's right, dude. The French team has

1954
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: like a gazillion injuries, so they've got like plenty of

1955
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 1: subs in And if you still look at the starting lineup,

1956
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: the starting eleven, all those fucking guys play for top teams.

1957
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: All even the subs play for top teams in Europe. Like,

1958
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know who's going to beat them.

1959
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: That's because they're pay enough to do that. Yeah, it's

1960
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: all dirty recruitment.

1961
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: No, it's colonialism because a lot of guys they pull

1962
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: from places in Africa and then they combine that with

1963
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: their academy uh grooming and development teams and the combination

1964
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: of having all that talent plus the academy. He's the

1965
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: world class academies. That's what makes them tough.

1966
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: That's exactly how John Calipari built an empire. Luke, Okay, colonialism, Yeah, yeah,

1967
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean look at him now. Yeah you remember how

1968
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: good those U Mass teams were, Luke. Remember remember ninety

1969
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 2: six U Mass They were insane.

1970
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: Who was the big seven footer Marcus can Be.

1971
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Harford connect Yeah, the Padilla brothers. They had the other

1972
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: little white guy from Puerto Rico that made threes. I

1973
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: mean they had uh, Dante Dingle, Dana Dingle, all the

1974
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Dingles like okay, So.

1975
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: Like the George Okay, So getting back to the question

1976
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: and we'll move on. So if you're picking like your

1977
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I think it was like was it two thousand and

1978
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: seven when George Mason made the made the final four

1979
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: six six, Jim Lay. When you're under Jim Lay nagger

1980
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: who moved on to I think Miami after that? Who

1981
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: is your George Mason in this one? Who's like your

1982
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: fucking feel good?

1983
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Like when Butler made the Final four that time?

1984
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing. Who's your Butler? Who's your George Mason

1985
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: in college basketball? I'm was asking about the World Cup,

1986
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: but I think, oh, oh, sorry, I guess I guess

1987
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you've you've exited the conversation.

1988
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: Well, I did open the conversation saying I'm joining you

1989
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: in boycotting this year's cutter World Cup out of you know,

1990
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: human rights issues and shit.

1991
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: You know, no, I think you're boycotting it because you're

1992
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: one of these Americans who doesn't like soccer and you

1993
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: think it's lame.

1994
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's at least part. That's part. That's a

1995
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 2: that's that's an additive I put in the fuel that

1996
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: gets me to where I am here.

1997
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Also, the US team, let's be honest about this. The

1998
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: US team, even though they gave England a bit of

1999
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: the business, they suck. I mean, they're not good.

2000
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's true. Probably true. I didn't see

2001
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 2: any of the games, so that's probably true. You know,

2002
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: I was real into it sporadically, Luke ninety eight. Right

2003
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: because of that?

2004
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: When does the US play again? I actually don't even know.

2005
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: Hold on real quickly.

2006
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: Uh, we're probably gonna tell you again a right? Can

2007
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: they get in with three ties?

2008
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 4: Luke?

2009
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't I think. I don't know. Oh, they play

2010
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Iran next tomorrow at too. They play Iran tomorrow too.

2011
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch that?

2012
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: Is that a rematch of the first Golf Challenge?

2013
01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: Luke?

2014
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was Kuwait.

2015
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. They speak Farsi and Iran, not Arabic. They're not

2016
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: the same, they're different people they're watching.

2017
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: I'll watch it because you want me to, so let's

2018
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 2: do it, Luke.

2019
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Actually I'm not gonna watch it either, So it's okay,

2020
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 1: all right, that's it dogs, we see all right. Now,

2021
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: let me say this one more time. It's time for

2022
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: BC specs. I cannot tell you how many times this

2023
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 1: degenerate look at that smile on his face, biting his

2024
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: lip like he's Gina Carano sitting ringside, he has told

2025
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: me this is like an epic dose.

2026
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I said, I got a really good batch of

2027
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: ship this week, Okay, I said, let's see it. I

2028
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 2: scovered the globe yesterday, the highs and lows, the good,

2029
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, and the in between. From over

2030
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: the weekend in Combat Sports and much more from beyond.

2031
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Shout out to Gaff Pierre for digging through this ship.

2032
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 2: It's it's BC species.

2033
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

2034
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: Alrighty oh god Okay. PFL Championships from the MSG Theater. Luke,

2035
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Bob Wilkinson and old Marii Akhmetoff for the middleweight championship

2036
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 2: put on a bloody war. Wilkinson. Luke gave us another

2037
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: one of those feel good redemption stories from his own

2038
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 2: being cut from the UFC and making this comeback. But

2039
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 2: both of these guys, they only went two rounds into Loch.

2040
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Medov's cut brought an end to it.

2041
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: But damn, you're saying it's a war. And don't get

2042
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: me wrong, like Achmedov put in what he could. It

2043
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: was a little one sided, dude. True.

2044
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Metov really tested Wilkinson's chin too with some right handed bombs.

2045
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, it became it became a drubbing and damn,

2046
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean they they gave all Luke and I was

2047
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 2: I was really happy to see.

2048
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: That from my garden style.

2049
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Luke, they had the battle for the name

2050
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: rights to the ma Reisch family. Uh Shaman wins by knockout.

2051
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 2: But the bigger story here, Luke, is how many more

2052
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: times are we going to allow ourselves to watch hammers

2053
01:32:55,720 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: destroy Marlin. It's already been to many.

2054
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: Path there then sits up. I mean, dude, he was

2055
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: winning too. Yeah, it wasn't like he was looking bad.

2056
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: He was looking good. But his ability to take damage

2057
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: has just been severely compromised.

2058
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: Man, how do you tell, you know, a thirty four

2059
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 2: year old I guess you could do, right. You got

2060
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: to tell them you got you know, I mean they

2061
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 2: might be surprised, Luke, but some people have been able

2062
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 2: to take that queue and turn it into you know,

2063
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 2: empires in different areas. You just want to see Marlin

2064
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 2: healthy and him taking on uh you know, very talented

2065
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 2: guys is not going well anymore.

2066
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: It's just no, it really is. It's It's I felt terrible.

2067
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: It's dude, He's gonna pull it off here. And then.

2068
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: You mentioned a potential hammer of the month. How about

2069
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: twenty four year old britt Dakota Ditcheva.

2070
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: Dude, look at this. Look at this young lady, fucking firecracker.

2071
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 2: Seven and oh now with his first round ko it

2072
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: definitely it didn't get their attention in the crowd. Got

2073
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: my attention though.

2074
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Who No, she looks like she can she can thump

2075
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. She looked good.

2076
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 2: Uh you know what proved a little thumpage was the

2077
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: grandson one of the greatest, Biagio Ali Walsh, brother of

2078
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: Nico Ali Wash. The boxer made his MMA debut here

2079
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: and you needed just forty five seconds to bring the heat.

2080
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: That's that Ali power.

2081
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 2: I think it is Luke. He's got some swagga too,

2082
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 2: just like his bro. I mean, he looked like he

2083
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 2: belongs right there right now.

2084
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Who's the other one in boxing, Nico Ali Walsh, Nico

2085
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Ali Wash.

2086
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 4: That's it?

2087
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, unbeaten middleweight I think. But you know

2088
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 2: that was a highlight reel performance there. We'll see what else.

2089
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 2: He has a wholesome moment here though from Brendan Locknane.

2090
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: As we mentioned, here's the finish of him realizing the

2091
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: one million dollars with blood flowing down his face. Look

2092
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 2: at that crowd reaction.

2093
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, family, that's his family. Hey, even said he

2094
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: brought his mom in there, which you know was very

2095
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: touching for someone like me. And then he said, you know,

2096
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: I told her when we didn't have a pound in

2097
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: the bank, I was gonna make it. And uh, sure

2098
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: enough he did.

2099
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 2: He is one million dollars. Rid Cherry's also a world champion.

2100
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: I think he changed that narrative of first reference. He's

2101
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: no longer that guy from that series, Luke, He's a

2102
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: world champion now, So shout out and not to be

2103
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 2: out and done. Here is Olivier, Albin Mercier, who had

2104
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 2: his own path to redemption here with this lightweight championship,

2105
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 2: and he delivered the boom via the right hand.

2106
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 1: Wo yikes, what a right hook, I mean just perfect times,

2107
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: perfectly too.

2108
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 2: From the tips of hell just the tip wow, just

2109
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 2: a switch.

2110
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 1: Dance, switch stance and then fire the right hook just

2111
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: beautiful woo.

2112
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: All right, what a holiday weekend there for oam. He

2113
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 2: gets the win. Luke. Dominant's MMA spent their holiday weekend

2114
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: in a different visit in Chechina as a guest of

2115
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: Ramzan Kadirov. Here is Gai chi Usmann and Sehudo, former

2116
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 2: champions of interim or full renowned in Gwadarmis, Russia at

2117
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 2: a special forces facility sampling weapons for the holidays.

2118
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: You just can't believe stuff like this.

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01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: Huh So they were a special guest of Ramzan kadirov Luke,

2120
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Why do you have issue with that?

2121
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, you mean the guy's a murderous dictator. There's that.

2122
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I think if we just

2123
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: sit here and we lash out at these guys, they're

2124
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: just going to tune us out, you know, truly. I

2125
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: mean that, like, I'm not trying to lash And We've

2126
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: interacted with Justin Gaetgee, I've never interrupted. I've interacted with

2127
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: Kamoro a little bit. I've never interacted with Henry directly.

2128
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: But I've interacted with those other two guys and I

2129
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: like them a lot. I don't think they're bad people,

2130
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: but they're making a real I would ask them to

2131
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: please please reconsider doing this. Please. I mean, isn't incut

2132
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: about this?

2133
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Is this correct me if I'm wrong? It's a different scenario.

2134
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 2: But is this the same thing of Tyson Fury posting

2135
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: that video that time I had a book in the

2136
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: Dillion White fight and thanking Daniel Kinahan and everybody being like,

2137
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 2: we're just blatantly doing this thing. Is this the thing?

2138
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of funny money in

2139
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: combat sports generally, and you go back to you know,

2140
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: even Ali engaged in sports washing, like Muhammad Ali, Like

2141
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: it's been going on for a long time. It's just

2142
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: the issue for me is like not so much about like, hey,

2143
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: did Anthony Joshua get a big purse from the Saudis?

2144
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, I really don't care. I mean, I don't

2145
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: love it that they fight and you know, Sauda Arabia

2146
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I can kind of sort of rationalize

2147
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: that a little bit. The thing that I think these

2148
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: guys should reconsider is how they're being used. They're being

2149
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: put in these promo videos by Kadeerov, and what does

2150
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,520
Speaker 1: he use them for. He uses them for, you know, propaganda,

2151
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 1: he uses them for sports washing. He uses them also

2152
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: to like burnish his appeal and frankly to it helps

2153
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: him strengthen his hold over Chechnya, which then leads into

2154
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 1: all of the other human rights violations. I mean, dud,

2155
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be illegal to do business with this guy.

2156
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know how this

2157
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: is happening. So I'm not gonna go ahead and be like,

2158
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, how could these guys do it? Because

2159
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll listen. But please, guys, you have

2160
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: to think long term. You are being used for purposes

2161
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: here and I'm sure they're getting a big bag for it,

2162
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 1: but they're being used. I mean this year that can

2163
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 1: only age poorly.

2164
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this could be Epstein Island. I mean

2165
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: this could be it could age very poorly, Luke.

2166
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: This is also the other part two is like, dude,

2167
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: MMA media. Have you noticed they don't say shit about

2168
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: this nothing. It's like, dude, the next time someone comes

2169
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: out and again you don't have to go out and

2170
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: condemn them because you're trying to find the way to

2171
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: get them to listen. I don't know what that is,

2172
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 1: but we're trying. But like the next time someone comes

2173
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: through and says them like the MMA media, you know,

2174
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: you get attacked for something and then they want to

2175
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: defend their practices. You can fucking stop that now. Now.

2176
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Every critique that people make of them as toothless. And

2177
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: here's what's kind of funny about it, is.

2178
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: Is it them? Is it always them? Or is it

2179
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 2: parent companies just making a decision.

2180
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean there's a lot of actors and maybe yes,

2181
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: the fighters should make better decisions. And what's the UFC

2182
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: doing about this? And is this even legal? Like there's

2183
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: all kinds of questions involved here, fair enough, And what's

2184
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: the media's role? Like you know, if people like, well,

2185
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: should they meet with the president? The American president? And

2186
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, I don't know. But here's

2187
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: what I definitely know. If they were taking money from

2188
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to then appear in propaganda videos with him,

2189
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: I'd probably have something to say about that too, for sure.

2190
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: So it could definitely cut both ways. I mean, let's

2191
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: be clear about that. But I think the thing that

2192
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: sort of just goes back to me on this whole

2193
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: thing is like, dude, the role of media, Like, none

2194
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: of us have the right answers, right, we don't know what.

2195
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: We can only present the facts to the audience and

2196
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 1: then they can make a determination about it, and that's fine,

2197
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: But to not say anything, to not say anything, you're

2198
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: you need a hero.

2199
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 2: Who's will Luke is basically saying I need a hero

2200
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 2: who's willing to confront and accost these people and make

2201
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 2: them answer for what their potent I'm doing what I mean,

2202
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 2: are we tough enough to go up to Suhudo and

2203
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: blame him for turning it into cringe? Nea? Luke? I

2204
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 2: don't know, but there was someone willing to answer that

2205
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 2: call for a hero and his name has Bulah Mago medoff.

2206
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Here's footage to prove it, Luke. Has Bulah went right

2207
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 2: up to Suhudo and like, what are you doing?

2208
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Bro? Damn dude, Dude, Suhudo is kind of a I'm

2209
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: sorry to ask. Has willis kind of a menace.

2210
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 2: Bro, kind of Did you watch that interview he did

2211
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: with the varstool guy? Look, it was amazing, dude.

2212
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: He just goes up and assaults people.

2213
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean on site, Luke. You know

2214
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: when he's got a grudge with you, it's on site,

2215
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: no question about it. He loves kitty kats in firearms.

2216
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a serious question. What happens when

2217
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 1: someone's like, you know, I've had enough of this shit

2218
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: and they actually swing on him.

2219
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: I think that person could be McGregor. Seriously, that could

2220
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: go in a distasteful way. I mean, imagine if like

2221
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: McGregor cold cocked this guy or kicked him in the

2222
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 2: face or something like. That's not that video is not

2223
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 2: gonna look good. Luke, Right, that's.

2224
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Gonna I don't know, man, the guy is begging for it.

2225
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: Also true, but you know there you go. Hey, let's

2226
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: go to happier times.

2227
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Here.

2228
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: Luke Israel da Sonia, the former champion. This was like

2229
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: a day or two after losing his belt, showed up

2230
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 2: on the set of Hot Ones and here is him

2231
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 2: tasting the final called the Debomb, which is like that

2232
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 2: ridiculous nuclear one.

2233
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Luke that. Yeah, I've had it. It's unbearable.

2234
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 2: Here's is he's reaction ready.

2235
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: M hmm. I think this is where it starts to.

2236
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: This is a different my precious. You gotta feel it,

2237
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 1: don't fight it. He just rolled it up.

2238
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 2: Damn. Look he was speaking in tongues there. It seemed

2239
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 2: like that was like fifth round against gastolum level ship.

2240
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: He pulled, He pulled deep for that.

2241
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 1: Did you ever see the episode with DJ colleg Yes?

2242
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Were he outright after two of them? Was like, you

2243
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 2: know what, not gonna play these reindeer games. Don't need

2244
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: to You played yourself, right, I'm out of here.

2245
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: Say dude, Like so I've had the bomb, and I've

2246
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: had the one that they make the last Dab. I've

2247
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: had the last Dab a couple of times. It's bad,

2248
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: but it's not like it's bad, but it's not horrific.

2249
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: To bomb is horrific? Is he took it pretty well? Yeah,

2250
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: it's fucking terrible.

2251
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: Dude, Dude, I have I mean, I have no stamina

2252
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: on this department, Luke. If I step, I talk to

2253
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: you about it. If I if I'm hanging out in

2254
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 2: the eighth throw and I order the takeout thy food

2255
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 2: and I get the balls to go up to medium.

2256
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 2: There's a wide range of medium, Luke. There's medium where

2257
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 2: I can just pull it off sweating and dripping, and

2258
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 2: then there's the ko medium. I couldn't imagine stepping up

2259
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: to that. I imagine doing this show. I'd be like

2260
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Bob Sagi Rip, like his episode where he was like

2261
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: hallucinating and falling apart.

2262
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 1: You're allowed to have. You see it there on the thing,

2263
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: they give you a picture of water and then they

2264
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: can bring you milk, and the milk is the only

2265
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: thing that's really gonna help the watering. I'll do all

2266
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 1: that much. You would just have like a keg of

2267
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: milk there, wouldn't you?

2268
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 2: You know badly people want you and I to do

2269
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 2: this type of weird stuff, like I won't do that

2270
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 2: one chip bullshit. I think that's just like here, BC,

2271
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 2: stick your finger into this socket. You know what I mean.

2272
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: I would do the I would do the hot wings thing.

2273
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: All right.

2274
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 2: Maybe we can work trivia into that or something. I

2275
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 2: don't know.

2276
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I would do it. We could do our

2277
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: own like we're never going to be famous enough to

2278
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: be on the show, so we could just pretend, yeah,

2279
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and make the staff do it,

2280
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: and then we could make Phil be like like Sean Evans,

2281
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: the host of the show.

2282
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, I bet you that guy Tristan and our

2283
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: camera guy and security guard, because until he turns on

2284
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: us and kills us, I bet you he dominates without

2285
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 2: even making a facial expression.

2286
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: Oh, he wouldn't even It would be like the buzzing

2287
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: of flies to him.

2288
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Luke, let's roll on here. Pay per

2289
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 2: view boxing from Carson, California. The Dignity Held Sports Park

2290
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 2: also gave us unbeaten heavyweight Baka Deer the big Uzek jalalav.

2291
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 2: He approved to twelve and oh did Jalaalov excuse me

2292
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 2: with twelve knockouts? Luke, he was the gold medalist as

2293
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 2: super heavyweight. He headlined a show box card recently. But

2294
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 2: he looks to be the real deal here. This is

2295
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 2: the fourth round stoppage against Curtis har Harper. You in

2296
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: on this, Jalla Loft trainer.

2297
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 1: No, oh, a little bit. You've talked. You've talked him

2298
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: up a little bit to me, right, like you've personally

2299
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 1: told me he's pretty good. But I don't know.

2300
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 2: Well, fighting Curtis Harper can always be an adventure. Let's

2301
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 2: rewind a few rounds before the big Oozbek got the

2302
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: finish check out Harper going right after the headbutts in

2303
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 2: the cliff. Ohoo oh.

2304
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 1: Dude, that is again once again this Coachino referee put

2305
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: some latex gloves on. Yo. That's Thomas Taylor, teenh century dentist.

2306
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: What are you doing, Jack?

2307
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 2: Thomas Taylor's jack. If you know the name Curtis Harper

2308
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 2: and boxing, it's of two reasons, Luke. One that early

2309
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 2: PBC brawl he had with Chris Ariola, which is worth

2310
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: re watching. Or two this moment, Luke, do you remember

2311
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 2: when Curtis Harper and FAA Jagma were about to face

2312
01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 2: off in a heavyweight till so oh he just walked out.

2313
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, good old Curtis Harper just was like, you

2314
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 2: know what, guys not doing this peace out? You played yourself.

2315
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: I think I interviewed this fucking guy on my radio show.

2316
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 1: I just forgot his name.

2317
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Curtis Harper. He walked out before this fight

2318
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 2: ever happened, claiming he was, you know, low balled with

2319
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 2: the pay.

2320
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, if

2321
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I had to fight a Jagba, I.

2322
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: Would also just walk out, would you do like a

2323
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 2: DX crotch before exiting the ring and just be like fuck.

2324
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 1: You you No, No, I probably wouldn't walk though, I'd

2325
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: probably sprint to the fucking uber waiting to take me home.

2326
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Jobs terrifying.

2327
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: Also at this pay per view card, Reel recognized Reel

2328
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 2: in the locker room as Houston born Jermal Charlow showed

2329
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 2: up for Rugaru. Here in the locker room, Regis pro Gray,

2330
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 2: who's now residing in Houston.

2331
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: Dude, I can't ever tell if the Charlo's are happy.

2332
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: Well, how do you decipher this interview. Jamal Charlo then

2333
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 2: rolled up on Dimitri Beevall, here's the result.

2334
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: Right now, but we have to ask as soon as

2335
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: you but must love to be.

2336
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 2: Let look to recap here. Middleweight champion Jamal Charlow, who

2337
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 2: we all want to move up to one sixty eight

2338
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: to enter that field, went up to the unified light

2339
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion Dimitri Bevall or I'm sorry, one belt, he's

2340
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 2: gonna we hope he's gonna face better be for all

2341
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 2: the belts and said, let's fight. We don't even need

2342
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 2: the title on the line. Then be Ball said no,

2343
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 2: the title needs to be on the line, and then

2344
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 2: Jamal said, well, let's do it at sixty eight. Is

2345
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 2: no one was talking about this? Is this a thing?

2346
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 2: Or Jamal just just making headlines out here?

2347
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: I think he's just making hairlines. I mean, I don't

2348
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I'd love to see it. I actually

2349
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: think highly of Jamal, but no, I don't Uh, I

2350
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: don't buy that, dude.

2351
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't have the video here. But Bevall got mobbed

2352
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 2: with love from the uh from the fans there in

2353
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 2: southern California, because let's not forget he had just beaten

2354
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: Canelo and and Zerto in succession. So they were like

2355
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 2: yelling Canelo's dad, Canelo's like that in Spanish, Luke, they

2356
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 2: were shouting him out.

2357
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: He turned a corner, Dude. He beat two well liked

2358
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: Mexican fighters, basically right.

2359
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how that Drmal fight happens,

2360
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: but I like Jamal saying stuff like that, though, gets me,

2361
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: gets me fired up, gets me excited. But uh yeah,

2362
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 2: big weekend there, big life, big year for beev All.

2363
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 2: But Luke, let's see the finish on this. Regis Progray win.

2364
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: It was a close and action filled fight, technical at times,

2365
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: but in round eleven finally he hurts Zapata and this

2366
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 2: is Regi's Progray taking care.

2367
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: Business and closes the show. Dude, Brugaroo, I'm telling you, man,

2368
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: I was worried about the state of his career the

2369
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 1: last three years because he he was he had a

2370
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of acclaim before the Tailor fight and then just

2371
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of kind of just hit a cool spot in

2372
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: his career. It was kind of weird, and I've been

2373
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: waiting for him to do a little bit more, and

2374
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: I think this is the start of something great. I

2375
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: really like Voolaroo a lot. Yeah, my favorite boxers to watch.

2376
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: This is not like a vacant title against it. Nobody's

2377
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 2: paid a battle tested to say the least. So this

2378
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: is a big win. Grilling season is almost over here, Luke,

2379
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: as we head towards winter, so we won't see many

2380
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: fails like this anymore. Oh that's that's.

2381
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh, young lady. Pull the fucking thing up.

2382
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm waiting for that to just explode like

2383
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 2: a bomb. You know, Luca.

2384
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 1: That's not good at least I think that's if I'm wrong, right.

2385
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 2: Yes, that is that is?

2386
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

2387
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, we've seen footage before of Habib doing

2388
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 2: that that basketball wrestle basketball uh combo thing that they

2389
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 2: do in Dakistan. Do you see this new thing putting

2390
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 2: up a hoop in the octagon or in the cage

2391
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 2: as if it's like a basketball hoop inside your pool?

2392
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 2: Could this catch on wall? Watch out Daryl Tawkins chocolate thunder,

2393
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 2: Luke here in the Yeah, there you go.

2394
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this just looks like I'm not sure what's dumb

2395
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: or this or slap fighting?

2396
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 2: What about car fighting with the seatbelt and the cardjitsu

2397
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 2: you know into that either I.

2398
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: Mean, that's just too stupid to even comment on.

2399
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, you ever imagine what it would be

2400
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: like if a celebrity walked by your house and then

2401
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 2: their dog ship in front of your door, and they

2402
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 2: didn't have a dog bag to pick up the ship,

2403
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: so they rang the doorbell to talk to you. Hey,

2404
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: let's watch this, Luke.

2405
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 4: Hell almost it should do ships outside. I was just

2406
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 4: wondering if you got some water and I don't want

2407
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 4: to leave it outside to come.

2408
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 2: It is five minutes away from it, and don't clean it.

2409
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 4: You're sure to just I feel like I feel terrible blown.

2410
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean, no spy ship and I can't even pick

2411
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 4: it up with a poodack known to me.

2412
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 2: When I get in.

2413
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 4: Thank you very much once again, I'm shorty about that.

2414
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 4: I ate too and stuff like that. That's why I

2415
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 4: knocked one.

2416
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: Go on feeling, Hey, that's a good dog owner.

2417
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 2: I hope that's the only time a fan has allowed

2418
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: to sloppy ship from from uh from Patty to Batty. Look,

2419
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 2: we don't need any I mean, I mean, come on,

2420
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: we don't need any Cleveland Steamers stories, Luke. But that

2421
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: was you know, he's been a good citizen here.

2422
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Tell you what, a lot of people

2423
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: have just let that ship slide. Quite absolutely in.

2424
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 2: My own naighborhood there are and I'm sick of it

2425
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 2: all right.

2426
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: Also, boxing, have you ever walked your dog? I've done

2427
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,560
Speaker 1: this before. I've ever walked your dog and for just

2428
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: like just just accidentally forgot like the poop bag. Oh yeah,

2429
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: and they and then they took they took a monster dump.

2430
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: What do you do.

2431
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 2: If you can corral enough leaves that have fallen to

2432
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: kind of build a little cradle to like scoop and throw.

2433
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 2: But that's risky, dude. I don't know. I might walk

2434
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: back and get a bag. If it's a giant one,

2435
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm not going to touch it.

2436
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 1: Right, So I mean I just keep it, I just

2437
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Yeah, yeah, I've.

2438
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 2: Left some killers. But that gets around in a neighborhood, Luke, though.

2439
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can only do that a couple of

2440
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: times before you start getting a rep.

2441
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 2: In the rain though, yeah, one hundred percent, Luke. You know,

2442
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 2: the rain's just going to take care of that for you.

2443
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: My dogs won't even walk in the rain, so I

2444
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: don't even have to.

2445
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Your dogs are bitches, Luke, all right, let's go to

2446
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to Windham, New Hampshire. Some club boxing. This

2447
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: is Javier Torres. He was making his pro debut, but

2448
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 2: they had to delay the fight to as the referee

2449
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: forced him to remove his nipple ring. I believe this

2450
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: is the first time this has happened in boxing history.

2451
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, Um, Why the fuck do you have

2452
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: a nipple ring?

2453
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 2: Nobody picked up on that in the walk I mean,

2454
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, to the ring. I don't know. I mean,

2455
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 2: I guess you could add a shirt on, but that's uh, that's.

2456
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 1: Some some some I mean, you know, yeah, I understand it.

2457
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: They make you trimming. I mean, obviously in boxing it

2458
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: doesn't matter as much because the full hand is covered.

2459
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: But like you know, you've seen the whole bit where

2460
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: like the referee checks them at the prep pot, prep

2461
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: prep spot, and then it's like, oh, let's they get

2462
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 1: the clippers out and they clip their nails and ship

2463
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: and you know, and they're checking like you can't be

2464
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 1: having that stuff.

2465
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 2: I mean, boxing has got strict rules on beards, you know,

2466
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 2: like for for you to be allowed to fight with

2467
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 2: a big beard, your pronent has to approve it. And

2468
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 2: the commission has to approve it and all that so.

2469
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: Interesting.

2470
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they do that in MM though, Luke

2471
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 2: Roy Nelson was allowed to do whatever he wanted with

2472
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 2: that big, sweaty belly.

2473
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I know all right?

2474
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 2: Uh Speaking of boxing, Luke though, shout out to a

2475
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: Rise podcast. They had Tank Davis on and the topics

2476
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 2: of both future fights against Shaker Stevenson and Devin Hainey

2477
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 2: came up. Let's hear his response that.

2478
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 3: I think that could be That would be Devin, that

2479
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:19,560
Speaker 3: would be Chic and Tank Davis himself. Yeah right, you

2480
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 3: got you got the last one, right. That's the only

2481
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 3: person that could beat me, Javonte Davis. That's the only person.

2482
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 3: Them niggas cannot touch me at all. They all been

2483
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 3: in the ring with me. They all been in the ring,

2484
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 3: and I.

2485
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 2: Cracked both of them. I cracked both of them.

2486
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: But this right there, Okay, so so you're telling me

2487
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 1: you cracked both of them, right, But I was also

2488
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 1: told that Devin got the best of you in the

2489
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 1: last Bard session. He didn't get no best of me.

2490
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 2: He ain't get no best of me. He did not

2491
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 2: get no best of me.

2492
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: He didn't get no best of me. Let me okay, man,

2493
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: you can you can go on.

2494
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 2: And you know I sparred him twice. I smalled them

2495
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: to right and Bill took him out of the ring.

2496
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 2: And Bill, you may not get moved by stuff like

2497
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 2: this in MMA, but in boxing when we at times

2498
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 2: can only dream about the big matchups. Although we're getting

2499
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 2: closer to this, Ryan Garcia one, this this got me.

2500
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: This.

2501
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 2: I was moved here in this, Luke. I love hearing

2502
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 2: power players talk about other power players, because Shakur has

2503
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 2: been who I love, has been talking a lot of

2504
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: j about Tank on the old Twitter and this, Uh,

2505
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 2: what do you think when you hear Tank come back

2506
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: and be like yo, I I put it on both

2507
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 2: of them already.

2508
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: You know this podcast needs it needs more people. That's

2509
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: what I saw the I didn't this is the first

2510
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: time seeing the video. I saw the news articles written

2511
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: about it, so I had heard what he had said.

2512
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Hani and Stevenson they did you have the response because

2513
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: they did not like that ship at all.

2514
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't have it, Handy.

2515
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: What did they know? They were both like your cap in,

2516
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: which apparently is the thing that young people say. Uh,

2517
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: and this is all bullshit and he's not telling the truth,

2518
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: and they you know, he was getting handled like Stevenson

2519
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: and Haney were like bullshit, Now, who's telling the truth.

2520
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but.

2521
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 2: Dude, I I reserved the right to be as giddy

2522
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: and optimistic and romantic as possible to the idea that

2523
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: these four not four kings, but as Karen Molvenny calls

2524
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: him of the Showtime Boxing podcast, the four Princes. If

2525
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: this group of Haini Raie Guy Shakur Teyo Femo also

2526
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: in that in tank, if this group of five guys

2527
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: or four guys, however it plays out, can all fight

2528
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 2: each other and keep moving up and wait with each other.

2529
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: This is what This is the air that I breathe

2530
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 2: as a boxing fan. Okay, so to hear these guys

2531
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: now talking about each other, just starting to grind those gears, Luke, Yeah,

2532
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 2: let's do that shit right, Let's do that Son inject

2533
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 2: me in the bag baby? Yeah? All right, hey, look

2534
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 2: rate that tat. Let's get into the good stuff right here.

2535
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: You know this game, Cody Garbrandt has a new sideburn

2536
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 2: tat your thoughts and ratings.

2537
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm not getting a clear view of it. Let's see,

2538
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: there's the stencil. It looks like he's got a heart

2539
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: tattoo on his cheek. That is correct. I'll say it

2540
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: looks like she's single needling there as well. It's a

2541
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 1: well done tattoo. It is a well done tattoo. It's

2542
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: especially hard to do a face like that in such

2543
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: a small amount of like real estate. There. That's actually

2544
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 1: really well done. The question there would be do you

2545
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: want a tattoo like that? There?

2546
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool how it gives you the full

2547
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 2: definition of a thick nineties style sideburn, though, Like if

2548
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 2: you put a hat on with that, that look pretty cool, right.

2549
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I actually like his blasted neck. That's actually really well done.

2550
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 2: Because you know, Luke, until really like my early thirties,

2551
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't grow anything reliable facial hair wise. I'm not kidding, Luke.

2552
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 2: It's just you know, the way I was put together,

2553
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 2: maybe the water that I drank in the factory.

2554
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Look, but you know, I got to say, I don't

2555
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: I like the tiger sideburn.

2556
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean, just let me actually tell

2557
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: the point of what I was setting up that.

2558
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 1: Look.

2559
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 2: You're like, b see, this joke's gonna suck. So I'm

2560
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: just gonna cut right through.

2561
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just gotta run over it.

2562
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Luke, I I at certain points in

2563
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 2: my twenties would have been willing to get a to

2564
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 2: go one cycle of steroids if they can inject me

2565
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 2: in the cheek or if so. The idea of a

2566
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: tattoo that gives you the image that you can grow

2567
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 2: a manly beard, that you have enough testosterone in you.

2568
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: Are gonna be ther old woman who's got tattooed eyebrows.

2569
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna get a tattooed beard, Luke, because it's

2570
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 2: not working out for me. I can't do it.

2571
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: It's you had in Columbia. You see all kinds of

2572
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: places like that for like women's beautification or whatever that

2573
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 1: do like permanent eyebrows and shit like that. Bad news.

2574
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's keep rate that tat going.

2575
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 2: Here's a Nick Diaz fan tat that the head of

2576
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 2: the Diaz Army shared on Instagram.

2577
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, this is just I mean, this is this is

2578
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: a zero. This is a terrible tattoos.

2579
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Which fight is that? Luk at the great career of

2580
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Big Nick Diaz.

2581
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 1: Takanori Gomi Go Go Plaza from Pride.

2582
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh it looks like a creative fighter from the first

2583
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 2: UFC video game.

2584
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 1: He's got in this. In this tattoo rendition, tattinory Gomi

2585
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 1: has a monster right butt cheek. It's amazing.

2586
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, rate that tatt takes us to Philadelphia. Here's Walterway

2587
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 2: contender Sean Brady Big. You know we love him here, Luke,

2588
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't hold it against me that I

2589
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 2: remember the name. But what do you think about this

2590
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 2: back of the neck tatt here?

2591
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: Ah, that's excellent. So that is a American traditional tattoo.

2592
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 1: Now again there's a question of would you want this

2593
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 1: and would you want it where it is placed? Right,

2594
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: So that's a separate question. But in terms of in

2595
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: terms of tattooing skill, that is very good.

2596
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 2: I love the colors. That's menacing looking too. And since

2597
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 2: he's all in, I mean he's already told us about

2598
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 2: the ash cheeks. Look, I disagree with that lifestyle choice,

2599
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 2: but you know he's since he we know he's already

2600
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 2: all in. This is pretty bad ass. Luca's not the

2601
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 2: it's not our tattoo of the week. Let's go to

2602
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 2: this random Uber driver and we'll play the volume to

2603
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 2: go with it. Here's your real tattoo of the week,

2604
01:58:58,680 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna need you to rate it.

2605
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Driver has a tattoo, y'all want to see it?

2606
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 2: Luke, rate that tat please? Oh my fucking rate that tadpole?

2607
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Right there, I can see his like, Driver, You'll want

2608
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: to see like the fat part of his fupa sticking

2609
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 1: out there right Look at that?

2610
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 2: I mean, can we not keep playing it? I mean

2611
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 2: I think.

2612
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 1: That first of all, I like, how like the like

2613
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: the hog, go back, don't. We're gonna, We're gonna, We're

2614
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna lean into this one. Go back. Please? Look do

2615
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: you think it's do you think it's Look at the hog,

2616
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, it's supposed to be a

2617
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 1: well designed hog, and then look at my man's shriveled arm.

2618
01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean he just different kinds of people there.

2619
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 2: Must Look his ball.

2620
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: His balls are the worst balls, like to borrow from

2621
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Doug Stanhope. His balls sag like the cheese on a

2622
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: pizza when you're pulling the slices away from the bar.

2623
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.

2624
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 2: Wow, do you see that guy's balls? They were weird?

2625
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: Wow, this guy has one thousand percent one thousand percent

2626
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: run from the cops. He has had his car repossessed.

2627
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the important question. Is that to scale?

2628
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,120
Speaker 2: Because if it is, you may have to you may

2629
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 2: have to give him a thumbs up. If it is, Okay, if.

2630
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 1: It was to scale, he wouldn't have a tattoo wood

2631
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: he This guy's probably dickless, let's be honest.

2632
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, well, speaking of dick Luke, I got

2633
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 2: a whole segment for this. Uh what do you think

2634
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 2: of this cake?

2635
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 1: All right? I mean there's a kid there on her

2636
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 1: fucking Apple Amazon fire whatever the fuck, and they're doing

2637
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 1: this and he's got nipple rings.

2638
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, oh my lord. All right, you may

2639
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 2: want to take that down to Okay, here you go.

2640
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, no, oh my oh my lord.

2641
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 2: Okay, where where did you get?

2642
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: You are a disturbed person?

2643
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 2: I didn't, Luke, I'm just like the conduit, the middleman.

2644
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there's a child next to him.

2645
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 2: Okay, can we get it off the screen?

2646
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 4: Then?

2647
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 2: Can we be can we you know, not in front

2648
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,840
Speaker 2: of the kids? Please? Here all right, Luke? Uh, you

2649
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 2: want to build this stuff in private where the adults go,

2650
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 2: like in the bathroom. Luke, what do you think about this?

2651
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 2: Toilet paper holder.

2652
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: What country is this where it's slang popeta? Look at

2653
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: the Look at the sign.

2654
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, but look at the unit on

2655
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 2: that holder. All right, there you go, uh, Luke. Let's

2656
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 2: go to your favorite band for our final of cock

2657
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 2: art this week. We have a request. I mean, how

2658
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 2: the how the hell are you gonna stand up for

2659
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 2: this despicable art?

2660
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 1: Luke? I mean he does this at every stop of

2661
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: the tour. He did this in uh in here in

2662
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: DC as well.

2663
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 2: How do you stand? How do you protect? I mean,

2664
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna stand beside that? Luke?

2665
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 1: What do you?

2666
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you doing?

2667
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 1: The song is called I Come Blood? What do you

2668
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: want him to talk to say? It's about That's what

2669
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 1: the song is about.

2670
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, well you know, okay? All right? I guess

2671
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 2: we no matter what we wow, I don't know how

2672
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 2: to come back from that. Aba. Let's go to Bob

2673
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 2: Sap footage. Here's forty nine year old Bob Sap, who

2674
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 2: no one's gonna say isn't ripped to the gills but

2675
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: working out in crocs and like mittens? Are you okay

2676
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 2: with us?

2677
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:56,960
Speaker 1: And there's a dog with a harness in the back

2678
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: there too.

2679
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 2: First, can you comment about his abs, Luke.

2680
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: They're tremendous. I will say that him and the other

2681
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: bro they're they're they're fucking tremendous. Man.

2682
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 2: Are you okay with the working out in crocs and

2683
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 2: and mintens like that? Do you go with that?

2684
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 1: The crocs, I can let slide, but the socks with

2685
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: the crocs is a bit much, and then the gloves

2686
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 1: are unforgivable.

2687
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that picture, screams Florida, doesn't it?

2688
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, South Florida.

2689
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Uh, let's go to our regional KO of

2690
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: the week, Luca. It's Shamil Goasenbakoff with the uh oh

2691
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 2: we got spinny shit. Yeah, let's watch it.

2692
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Damn.

2693
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what promotion that is, but damn.

2694
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Dude, these Russian guys there's just next level man.

2695
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're also in a hurry. Wow damn yes, uh, Luke.

2696
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of Russian heroes, so A b. Mago med Scherapov,

2697
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 2: the greatest UFC featherweight of all time, posted this curious

2698
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 2: video of him just work in the midst of the

2699
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 2: with the boxing.

2700
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, he looks frail? Yeah, yeah, does it mean

2701
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 1: or he loves he's moving real slow.

2702
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't impressed, you know, I was.

2703
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, though, that's Abe Lincoln, Abe, Lincoln

2704
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: got hands player?

2705
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, could he? You know, if if if Wilkes

2706
02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 2: Booth was a man and wanted to challenge him to

2707
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 2: like a duel like that should have been. That should

2708
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 2: have been like Burr and Hamilton living. Abe should have

2709
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 2: been given that shot, right to fight for his life.

2710
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,879
Speaker 1: Yes, show us what you got with that boxing, Abe.

2711
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the coward, you know, coward got him. Here's

2712
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 2: your scorpion of the week. Though, Luke, these are always fun.

2713
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if he walked again, But you wear

2714
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 2: that outfit. You play those games, Luke, You're like, dude.

2715
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 1: You wore white fucking pants and like some kind of

2716
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies shirt to whatever the fuck this was, and

2717
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: then you pulled off the worst flip in. I mean,

2718
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: you just paralyze yourself in the process. Congrats to this

2719
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: Darwin Award winner. Thank you.

2720
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Two more for you, Luke. We've done the pleasure of

2721
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 2: ordering you room service. Here's what you'll be eating from

2722
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 2: now on on the road. The blue vape that you

2723
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 2: asked for on a napkin. Thank you your blue vapes.

2724
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: This is cranberry watermelon.

2725
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 2: Do you know how often I have those moments when

2726
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: the great people at Malka are like, hey, run into

2727
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 2: the store. You guys need anything? It looks like your

2728
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 2: I need a purple rain mischief pink colored energy drink

2729
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 2: to go with my watermelon iced vape. Yeah, it's just like, wow,

2730
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 2: does that come with a homemade tattoo and a divorced Luke?

2731
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: What is that? And your car getting repossessed? Don't forget that?

2732
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 2: But hey, I own my own piece of land, Luke,

2733
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 2: somewhere in Europe. All right? Uh, finally, Luke, you know

2734
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:02,160
Speaker 2: you love gender reveals. Okay, tell me every.

2735
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 1: One die in this clip otherwise I don't want to

2736
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 1: see it.

2737
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 2: You shot down the one of the guy Duncan on

2738
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 2: the Alupe from his girl to be to find out

2739
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 2: they were having a boy. Then what are your thoughts

2740
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 2: about this?

2741
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:23,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's beyond disserting, Luke.

2742
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a boy. I think they're having a boy. Okay,

2743
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 2: you're you're like a pro. You know, Blue Blue Confetti

2744
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 2: would have done the same track.

2745
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 1: Or they're going to have a girl with a giant dog.

2746
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 1: Either way, I don't I think these are stupid.

2747
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, Luke. You know I thought I knew I

2748
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 2: had a chance that this would hit big, but you know,

2749
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if we're watching Morning Combat here

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Speaker 1: or the Crying Game. This is really hard to tell.

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Speaker 2: All Right, thank you, thank you. That's all the ship

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Speaker 2: I've got this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well that is it for us today. Probably

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Speaker 1: the last show we're ever going to do is going

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Speaker 1: to look at this and be like, well that's called

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Speaker 1: a podcast. Who could blame them? If we are still

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Speaker 1: Black Friday is your code word. You can get a

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Speaker 1: that page. You go to showtown dot com get a

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Speaker 1: If not, you may bounce. Don't forget the fan subs

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Speaker 1: and dead wrongs. They are back. Morning Combat at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com will be the place to get that BC.

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Speaker 1: Any I was we didn't even talk about this before

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Speaker 1: we go. How was Thanksgiving overall, the overall experience so.

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Speaker 2: Good, so good, you know, with the with the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: And then I went on vacation last year during Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: to meet Usain Bolt for my son, so I didn't

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Speaker 2: have like that, you know, experience with those group of

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Speaker 2: people for three years. So it was wonderful. Look backyard

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Speaker 2: football game, even though we lost in ot a lot

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Speaker 2: of big moments from some key players. You know when

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Speaker 2: like that kid in your backyard family Thanksgiving football game,

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Speaker 2: you know, comes of age at like age nine and

2778
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Speaker 2: makes the big tip interception and goes to distance. Moments

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Speaker 2: like that, Luke. You know, it was like the PFL

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Speaker 2: finals to be fair, you know, there's just men growing

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Speaker 2: and women.

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Speaker 1: Was pretty good too. And the traffic on the way

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Speaker 1: down was not great but not terrible. There was zero

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Speaker 1: traffic on the way back, which was awesome. And my

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Speaker 1: brother he took he brianed the turkey and then cooked

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Speaker 1: it a little, uh cooked it basically for that the

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Speaker 1: internal meat was cooked, then chopped it up, and the

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Speaker 1: way he cooked it was he soon vied it, then

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Speaker 1: chopped it up and then egg washed it and then

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Speaker 1: deep fried it. So we had deep fried sou veed.

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Speaker 2: I bet it was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievably good. Yeah, people in your.

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Speaker 2: Family, when they do things, they tend to do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is true. That is true, and their cal

2795
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: ripken streak of not asking about my show is alive

2796
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Speaker 1: and well.

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Speaker 2: Well, Luke, come the first week of December, if we

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Speaker 2: win yet another award, why don't you just tell whoever's

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Speaker 2: given us this next award if we win it, send

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Speaker 2: the address to one Robert Thomas, you know, just make

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Speaker 2: a little little mix up in the mail and then

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02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 2: you know he'll open it up in the best podcast

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Speaker 2: of all time, my son. You know, like Luke, we

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Speaker 2: could kind of mess with this a little you.

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02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 1: Know, No, he'd be like, people are sending me junk mail. Now,

2806
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 1: just use it as a paper holder, a chuck in

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Speaker 1: the garbage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that is it for us, b C.

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Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we go.

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Speaker 2: I hope as well our great viewer hood viewership, even

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Speaker 2: beyond my cousins listening right now. I hope you guys

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02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:32,200
Speaker 2: all had a fantastic Thanksgiving holiday run reconnecting. I know

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Speaker 2: they don't celebrate this elsewhere or you have your own version,

2815
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 2: but it's not as you know. I mean, look, you know,

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Speaker 2: Naugatuck was up ten to nothing on an Sodi at

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Speaker 2: the half, trying to get back to back wins over

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Speaker 2: that behemoth for the first time since nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 2: and they lost eighteen to ten. So that was hard

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Speaker 2: to swallow at home too. But you know, you don't

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Speaker 2: really care about the one hundred and twenty second meeting

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving Day between those two powerhouses. That's Valley football.

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Speaker 2: Hey do you see Logan Paul was at the Milford,

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Speaker 2: Connecticut Thanksgiving Game two wild right, connecticutt in the forefront.

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Speaker 2: You know, Connecticut is the foreskin of the country at

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Speaker 2: this moment, Luke.

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Speaker 1: The kind they cut off during circumcision.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, yeah, maybe we should just

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Speaker 2: end it, right, Yeah, we.

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Speaker 1: Should probably just end it. We're gonna get fired, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the last one we did. We had a

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Speaker 1: good run for Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to Showtime,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports as well as Malca. We'll see you guys

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday in studio. Don't forget and until then, all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal.