1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Time now for another camp chat, and we do that 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: now with Colts tight end Mo Ali Cox believe it 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: or not, heading into your number six with the Colts 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: at the tight end position. Mo, how has your camp 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: gone so far? How would you assess the work that 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: you you've got in through two preseason games and another 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: week of practice here? Um, I think camp has gone 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: great so far, made a lot of progress from day 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: one up until now, just in different nuances in our 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: routes and just getting the system down and just adjusting 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: certain things to how Matt lacks things and stuff like that. Right, 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: haven't really gotten many game reps because I didn't play 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: a game two. In game one, we only played like 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen plays. But that joint practice last week 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: really helped m got a lot of good work against 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: another team. And I also I think the one on 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: ones have really helped a lot. Also, Like going against 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: new defense this year, so they're running different techniques and 19 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: we've had in the past with Luc's defense, so it's 20 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: just a good good place to just work on different stuff. Yeah, 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: those one on ones. Who's who's the most difficult matchup 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: for you? When you go up against the Colts defense? 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm typically matched up with one of the safeties. I 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: would just say probably Nick. Yeah. Nick, you know, he's 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: a little bigger safety, a little more physical than things 26 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: like that, so it's a little harder to like bounce 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: off him and things like that. But I would say him, 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: he reminds me a little bit of carry willis what 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: is it? One of the things Matt talked about. You're 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: entering year six, so you're kind of the elder statesman, 31 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: really young group. Have you been able to kind of 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: take what you've learned from, you know, guys in the past, 33 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: especially like Jack, What have you learned from that experience 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: into kind of getting these young guys up to speed. 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: The biggest thing is, don't I just tell him doing 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: harp on a mistake. I mean, you're here for a reason. 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: You know you have talent this. I mean, guys across 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: the ball get paid just how we get paid. They 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: get paid to make play. So you're not gonna win 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: every single rep. So if something happened, something doesn't go right, 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, flush it because you know the next place 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: here like that, and then and then you could correct 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: it in the film room and then through walkthroughs to 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: your technique and different things like that. So mistakes happen, 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: but it's just don't try not to repeat the same mistake. 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is just telling him have a routine. 47 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: There's something you do every day when you come to 48 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: the building where it's it's catching jugs before after practice, um, 49 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: taking care of your body, going to the treatment room, 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: and different things like that. And then just like once 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: when we're watching somebody on film, let's know they're coaching 52 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: all of us on the same thing, not just that person, 53 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: because right, yeah, you're going to be in that same 54 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: situation at some point. And then just going back to 55 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: what coach told us can apply to you, is it drive? 56 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Coach is crazy when it's a teaching point and then 57 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: it's made again, but guy A makes it, But then 58 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: Guy B makes it again, you know, another practice or 59 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: another game down the road. Let's I would say so 60 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: because it's I mean, what's that? What's that? Like the 61 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: film room? Rights notice it because you know they're they're 62 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: coaching all of us in the same right Like dang, 63 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: he just told the other dat over this. But I mean, 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: it's just something that happens when young guys because it's 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: just so much stuff being thrown at you every single day. 66 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: You might forget it because we haven't gone over it 67 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: in the the week you're the teacher or something else. So 68 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I think about Camp like we're installing every single day, 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: something new is gonna put in. We us hit the 70 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: point where we're not installed and now with review and 71 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: it's just trying to go out there and play fast. 72 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: So this is the part where you see guys really 73 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: start to take off because everything's already been in and 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: then it's not as much thinking, it's just go play. 75 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: That's Moley Cox with us Colts tight End. With that 76 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: in mind, what's Jilani Woods going through? Can you put 77 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: yourself in his shoes as a rookie? Yeah, for sure. 78 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: I know it's probably everything's moving fast, and you know, 79 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: we play a lot of two tight end sets, are 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: blocking schemes like you know, we had multiple plays in 81 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: one and different things like that. So I think now 82 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: he's getting more and more reps. Now he's getting more 83 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: reps with the ones and different things like that, So 84 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: he's out there with more vets. We're out there talking 85 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: to him and different things like that. He's coming along quicker. 86 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: You can see in the passing game, he's getting better, 87 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: getting more confident. He's not thinking as much. He's just 88 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: using his speed, using his side. I mean, you see 89 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the way he runs that do it this fast, So 90 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: like just tell him trust his speed, Like there's certain 91 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: routes or you can win with your side and things 92 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: like that. They're in certain routes you just win with 93 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: your speed, and that's something they've been trying to coach 94 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: him all the different things like that. And then the 95 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: blocking is gonna take time. But the more reps you 96 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: get at it, the better you're gonna get at and 97 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: the more confidence you get at it. So now, one 98 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: of the things you talked about with with the coaching aspect, 99 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: you got a guy under center who's kind of an 100 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: another coach on the field. What has it been like 101 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan and how much has he helped this group. 102 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: It's a very young group, so you know, having that 103 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: veteran presence through camp, oh man, Um, he's definitely helped 104 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: a lot because he probably he sees a game different 105 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: than everybody else season game. You know, everybody sees it 106 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: their own way, so we get certain looks out there. 107 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: He tells us, like get your head around quicker hair. 108 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: The ball is gonna be on you. Um, I want 109 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: you to run the route this way like our corners run. 110 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Our corner is completely different than we have in years past, 111 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: because that's just how he likes it ran. What do 112 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: you what do you mean by that? How Like sometimes 113 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: we should like just certain releases and things like that, 114 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: like if we were released this way, if we can't 115 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: get it, just run it and they will like try 116 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: to put it over top, or we work a different 117 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: move now we're more so using our speed to win 118 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the route, or just like not a bunch of moves 119 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: at the top, just put your foot in the ground 120 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: and go at different things like that, because he's gonna 121 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna make you right with a throw, so you 122 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: he's pretty much you don't have to do too much 123 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: shaking and bacon and different things like that. So he's 124 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: just gonna make you right. One of the things you 125 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: mentioned during OTAs is that he's kind of met. Ryan 126 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: is stopping guys and quizzing him as he quizzed you anymore. No, 127 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I haven't got one since that point. The quizzes are over, 128 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I guess, so I mean we're at that point. You 129 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: should know it by now, I haven't messed up. I 130 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: don't haven't really messed up a camp. So I don't 131 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: think I need right now. If they come, I'm ready. 132 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Is Matt where he needs to be from from your 133 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: standpoint and in the overall command and mastery of this 134 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: offense within the playbook, the mental side of things. Um, 135 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for me to say because I'm 136 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: not in the quarterback room, but from where I stand, yeah, 137 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's a lot. But also it's 138 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: also a new system for him also, so you know, 139 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: messed ups happened sometimes with him, just like the pronunciation 140 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: and not change with certain things because you've been in 141 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: a certain offense for fourteen thirty years how many years 142 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: than coming here it's a whole new thing. But he's 143 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: definitely done well with it, um, And you can see 144 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the progress we're making on the field. We've gotten better 145 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: every week in practice. So um, sky's the limit. That's 146 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: Moley Cox with us Colts tight end Drew Ogletree, let's 147 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: talk about him for a little bit. Went down last 148 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: week obviously with that bad injury tearing his ACL teammate, 149 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: good friend of yours. Obviously by nature of the position. 150 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Just what are his spirits, what's he going through right 151 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: now psychologically a mentor. He hasn't really shown to be 152 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: two down. I mean he's coming to the meetings, he's 153 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: been around. He doesn't get surgery till next week. But 154 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: I know if it was me, I probably wouldn't be 155 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: around the guys as much, just because that's the type 156 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: of person I'm I don't on myself. But he's definitely 157 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: been in good spirits. Um, he doesn't seem two down. 158 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll probably more so hidden when you know, 159 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you have the surgery and you can't be around the 160 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: guys as much as you can be, and being a rookie, 161 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: you're like here alone really so we're always at work 162 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and you're doing rehabbing things like that. So I think 163 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: he'll hit him then. But as of right now, he's 164 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: definitely in good spirits. Was he having as good of 165 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: a camp as it appeared that he was, Oh yeah, definitely. 166 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: The camp he was having kind of reminding me of 167 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: the camp Dion. Remember Deon came like how Dion was 168 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: can Camp in the same situation he toys Aco and 169 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: the Seattle game. So I mean they kind of reminded 170 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: me of that, But yeah, he was definitely playing great. 171 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: He was definitely going to be a big contributor on 172 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: offense this year for us for sure. Now looking at 173 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Saturday the season, you know, the final preseason game. We've 174 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: heard the starters are going to play about a half. 175 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: For you, what is there that you're trying to get 176 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: out of Saturday? I know you're one of those bona 177 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: fide guys that when we take the field on September eleven, 178 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be out there. What are you looking 179 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: forward for Saturday? As an offense? Just trying to get 180 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: points on the board and moving the ball down the field, 181 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: sustaining good drives, and for me just the physicality. You know, 182 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: haven't played in a game in a while, So going 183 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: out there, playing in a game and getting a full 184 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: half instead of just two or three drives, I think 185 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: will be great just to get your legs under you 186 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: before a week one, But definitely as an offense, just 187 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: seeing what we could do with a full half of 188 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: football and going out there and making things happen. Now, 189 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: one of the things you mentioned early on is you know, 190 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: install installing. Right now, it's kind of everything's already installed. 191 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of the dog days of camp. What are 192 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: you doing to kind of make sure that everybody is 193 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: staying in two these last couple of days. Oh, like 194 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I said, just staying with the routine. I mean, just 195 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: because we're not installing anymore doesn't mean you can't get better. 196 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't learn new things and different 197 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: things like that. Now is the time, like we're not installing, 198 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: but you could spend more time on film, watching film, 199 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: getting different things. And now we're pretty much game planning 200 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: this week. We're like treating it as like a real 201 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: game season, a real game, but we're treating it like 202 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: a real regular season game. So like today we did 203 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: first second down, tomorrow, third down day after the red zone. 204 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: So you're really getting a sense of how an end 205 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: season week would be. So just just staying on top 206 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: of your things and stuff like that, so you could 207 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: really get that experience and you can just get in 208 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: the group of things that's Moiley Cox Colts tied in 209 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: final A couple of things with you Kyl and Grants 210 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: and how how ready is he to take off? In 211 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: you two, you could definitely see the improvement Colin has 212 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: made from from this point last year to this year. 213 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's more confident. Like you can see he's 214 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: fast too. You can see he's playing way faster. His 215 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: blocking's improved for sure. He saw he's made plays in 216 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: both games that we've played so far. So Colin he's 217 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: another one. He's to have a big role. I mean 218 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: we could go three tight end sets, two tight end 219 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: sets and he could definitely make an impact out there 220 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: on the field. And excited to take the field to 221 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: him more to show you talked about the blocking aspect 222 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: of playing tight end. You're a great blocking tight end, 223 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: just like Jack Doyle was. How much time do you 224 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: spend with the offensive line? Do do you spend any 225 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: time with Chris Trouser during the week or during the season. 226 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: We actually don't spend anything. How do you how do 227 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: you become such a good blocking tight end? Then? Um, 228 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: what are the steps necessary to improve in that regard? 229 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: One is one too. That's that's I probably say the 230 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: biggest thing. Those dudes are not easy to block, So 231 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: you got to have that one too when you and 232 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: then just the willingness to learn. Um, don't harmen on 233 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: your mistakes because like I said, we're really we don't 234 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: get paid, like they don't really pay you the block, 235 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: but it's something you have to do at this position. 236 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Like most guys want to come at tight end catch 237 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: passes like the receivers, but you got to do the 238 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: dirty work also, that's what makes you a good tight end. 239 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: So I think also I'm just studying, Like when we're 240 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: in the film room, I just look at the offensive 241 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: line too instead of just only us, because that's what 242 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: they get paid to do. And then if you could 243 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: like watch what they do and apply it to yourself. 244 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: Of course you're not going to be as good as them, 245 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: because that's not what we're working on every single day. 246 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: But if you could work on it as much as 247 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: possible as time permits, you're going to get better at it. 248 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, and then watching some 249 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: of the other tight ends in league, like we watched 250 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: them George kittlefilm The Dad Guy. He could block. He 251 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: blocks to the whistle and then he could do the 252 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: receiving part. So it's not like you can't do both 253 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: at that position. Then also having Clayton Adams in the room, 254 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: you know he was a former. He was here with 255 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: the Old Lion his first year and definitely learn a 256 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: lot with him being in that room. I think about 257 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: blocking has definitely gone a lot better over the last 258 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: few years, as far as footwork, hand placement, different things 259 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: like that, because you're getting a different perspective from it 260 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: coming from a former offensive lineman. Like there are things 261 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm still learning in the run game about different different 262 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: blocks and different ways to use different techniques at a 263 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: certain point because he has so much experience with it. 264 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: He's just helping us as tight ends come along way 265 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: in that aspect. I know Jack Doyle was meant a 266 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: ton to you for your career. In your career, you know, 267 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: you asked a ton of questions to him over the 268 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: course of time. Now those same questions are coming your way. 269 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Now you're the veteran inside this this tying in room. 270 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: What's that adjustment like for you? And how much has 271 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Jack meant to you for your career. I don't think 272 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: it's been too much of him adjustment, because I mean, 273 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: even with Jack hare last year, I was still the 274 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: other in the room, so guy still came and asked 275 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: me a bunch of questions. Now it's just different that 276 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Jack's not there. They're mainly coming to me but I 277 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: mean it's great just offering my insight wherever possible and 278 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: just helping them through different situations in the game and 279 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: things like that, because it's like, say, you know, you 280 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: we have like an inside zone plane. You have a 281 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: guy over the top of you and the d NS outside. 282 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: You know, you can hold that DN a little longer 283 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: because that safety is guarding you. Man, So he's mirroring 284 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: us at different things like that in the rung game. 285 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: You could just try to pass down to teach them 286 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: that will help you in the run game that even 287 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: in the past game, and different things like that. Just 288 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: reading oys, reading stances at different things like that. And 289 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: I mean, Jack's definitely meant a lot. I texted him like, 290 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: once we start a calf because Frank's so it's a schedule. 291 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: I was like, man, you sure you want to retire? Camp? 292 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Schedule is love? Man, your body will feel great coming 293 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: out of campus yere. He's probably seeing what knowing Jack, 294 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: he probably hasn't worked out since seasons ended and playing 295 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: with his kids. So that's what that's what I would 296 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: be doing, my friend. This is your your sixth training camp, 297 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: final thing before we cut you loose. After this preseason 298 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: game and then when roster cuts come out, I mean, 299 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: what what is the is it euphoria that camps over, 300 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: because it's it's still such a grind even though the 301 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: schedule has been modified. I mean, what is your reaction 302 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: to camp ending going into the regular season as a 303 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: as a season vet, I don't really have too much 304 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: of reaction because I mean you're probably speeding down thirty 305 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: one going like that's right. The best thing he's just 306 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: getting to sleep at home every day for the show. Yeah, 307 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: it's actually convenient because a commute. What the hotel's right 308 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: there since they drive over. But other than that, it's 309 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: just got to sleep in your own bed and different 310 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: things like that. But the work doesn't change. I mean, 311 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: you still spend a lot of time in the building. 312 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Days might be what an hour or two shorter. Other 313 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: than that, you know, you just got to put the 314 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: pedal to the metal. And this year we have what 315 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: five of our first eight are in the division, so 316 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: there's no room for slow starting question, So it's not 317 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: no time to relax. Um, that's part of the condition 318 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: today is like we don't have time to relax in 319 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of things like that. So when you're tired. 320 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Just got to keep the gas going and get to it. 321 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: So for me, there's no slow We start off with 322 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Houston and Jacksonville back to back. Can't afford to start 323 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: slowing the division. About it, Walley Cocks right there. Thanks 324 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: so much for the time, man, Have a great rest 325 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: to camp and enjoy it.