1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Two. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Bad NFL games aren't three quarters instead of four quarters? 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Long Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvic joins me, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: we get his front row perspective. Maybe he knows what 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: happened because that was about his dominant first half. I've 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: seen the Cardinals play on both sides of the ball, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: and even early in the third quarter. Unfortunately, it's a 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: four quarter game and the Cardinals are zero and two. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six seventy four, and it 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: starts now. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Wood to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: dot com Slash podcasts. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: So far Harry Magic. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Whow here's Craig. You're going to live. 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Post game Sunday. I think James Connor said it best quote. 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm sick to my stomach because Paul, if week one 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: was a punch to the guts, then week two you 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: feel like you're about to empty your guts. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: That's our one, it's I. 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Don't know what to say. 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: I didn't really know what to say postgame on Cardinal Talk. 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: So now here we are on Monday morning, because hopefully 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: you have the answers to what happened between the first 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: half and the second half. 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Against the Giants. You know, I wish I did. I 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: was at a loss of times for questions after the game, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: and then you hit me after the game. You know what, 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: We've all been here and done this, those of us 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: who have been around a while. It was called the 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: two thousand and six Monday Night meltdown. Yeah, the Cardinals 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: were up twenty to nothing and a half. Now, totally 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: different circumstances, and the play by play and how it 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: transpired completely different. But when you lose a twenty to 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: nothing halftime lead, history is made, and it was, at 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: least for the Giants. It goes back to like nineteen 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: forty nine, their biggest comeback ever since. And all this 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: so okay, you start drilling in and there's nothing mystical 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 4: at work here. There are two big factors in my opinion. 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: Number One, the Giants got into absolute desperation mode. They're 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: looking at oh and two straight in the face with 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: a Thursday night road game at the forty nine Ers 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: with a banged up offensive line going against that Niners 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: front seven, and they're saying, Wow, if history says at 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: oh to two, we have an eleven point five percent 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: chance of making the playoffs, what does ohen three mean? 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 4: You're done? 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Especially in the NFC East YEP Cowboys two and oh 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: Eagles two and oh Commanders are two and oh yes. 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 4: So desperation mode kicked in for the Giants and the 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: Cardinals failed to match that increase intensity. And then the 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: other thing that I think was a factor in this 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: one in that second half was the defensive line. You 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: lost your depth. You're already without LeKi Foto an LJ. Collier, 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: and you lose Carlos Watkins. Those guys were gassed Jonathan 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: Ledbetter and Kevin Strong and they were spelled here and 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: there by Eric Banks practice squad, d Lineman and Dante 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: Still's a six round rookie making his NFL debut, and 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: it added up. I don't have the analytics in front 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: of me, but what sort of pressure did the Cardinals 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: get midway from the third quarter all the way through 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: the end of the game. It fell off noticeably just 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: looking at the snap counts to your point about the 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: defensive line ledbetter and strong. Each played fifty snaps seventy 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: four percent of the game, and then you have to 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: go down Still's eighteen snaps, Banks fifteen, Watkins ten before 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: he exited the game. In the first half, you didn't 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: have that rotation, that healthy rotation like you had in 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: Week one, where it came in waves, whether it was 73 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: the defensive line or the outside linebackers and were able 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: to get consistent pressure or at least affect the quarterback. 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: Now there is a difference between Sam Hall and Daniel Jones. 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: I think we all know that ahead of time, but 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: it's still to use your word boggles the mine because 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: that first half was about as dominant as I've seen 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: a Cardinals team play on offense and defense. Not only 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: the score but total yards two hundred and forty one 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 4: to eighty one. Cardinals had almost one hundred rushing yards 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: in the first half. They were averaging nearly seven yards 83 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: a play. They had sixteen first downs the Giants just five, 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: and you were feeling good. 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there was. 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Talk upstairs in the press, Pocks Paul, amongst people like wow, 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: where has this been. I mean, this is this feels good, 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: this is different. This is a continuation of Week one. 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: And then the second half kicked off and the very 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: first play by the Giants the fifty eight yard bomb. 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: Whether Marco Wilson was looking for help or not, but 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 2: he was the man and it was Jalen Hyatt fifty 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: eight yards. Two plays later, Daniel Jones scores it's twenty 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: to seven. But then the Cardinals did have an answer 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: and you're still Coka twenty eight to seven. Despite the score, 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: you increased your halftime lead to twenty one with nine 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: thirty four to go in the game. Yet you lose 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty eight because after that the Cardinals 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: did nothing on offense and the defense couldn't get the 100 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: Giants off the field. 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: And another factor I'll throw out a couple other factors 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: beyond just the intensity difference, which was palpable at times 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: down the stretch. They targeted Marco Wilson. I think that 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: was a halftime adjustment. They went after him to start 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: the second half. The gave up the Hodgens Hodgens touchdown 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: pass at the very end, so they definitely went after 107 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: number twenty Kee Troll Clark gave up a big one downfield. 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: Now these were contested catches to some degree, but when 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones had that much time to operate, and then 110 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: you saw the speed of Daniel Jones. I don't know 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: if Daniel Jones ran the forty at the combine, but 112 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: there were a couple of plays where Zaven Collins, truly 113 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: I think in his mind thought he had him, he 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: was gonna track him and bag him, and Daniel Jones 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: hit another gear and just pulled away down the sideline. 116 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: He has that, not just escapability, he's got some blazing speed. 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: Obviously you saw it on the touchdown run where everybody 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: crashed and lost contains Avin among them, and then he 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: just scooted it out into the end zone. But you're 120 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: reminded as to what sort of problem Daniel Jones was 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: in that playoff win when the Vikings couldn't stop him. 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: They ran him seventeen times in that playoff victory. 123 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 2: There was a third and twelve in the third quarter 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: in which Jones scrambled and got thirteen yards because he 125 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: got out of the pocket. And I can't remember the 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals defender. It might have been Zaveon Collins or it 127 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: could have been someone else that was tracking towards Jones, 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: but he got out of bounds, got the first down, 129 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: drive continued and another touchdown at the end of that drive. 130 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: Fifty nine rushing yards for Daniel Jones. He in the 131 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: first excuse me, not the first half. First half he 132 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: was pedestrian. 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: He was awful. 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: Second half though, two hundred and fifty nine yards through 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: the air and three scores, two passing, one rushing. So 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: to your point, Giants, a desperate team, the Cardinals and 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: the locker room after the ballgame. Jalen Thompson quote, I 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: kind of just think we let off the gas a 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: little bit. Kuisier White quote, as a defense, we just 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: let off the gas. I feel like we got relaxed 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: a little bit. Well, there you go. And look, I 142 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: wasn't in the locker room. I was doing the interviews 143 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: from outside, and so I didn't hear a lot of that. 144 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: But if they're owning that and that's their diagnosis, then 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: guess what that goes to the top of the list 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: of things to address going forward. 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: Because it's under your control. When it comes to effort intensity, urgency. 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: You saw what it was in the first half, so 149 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: you come out and and you know what, to your point, 150 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: they responded. The offense answered with that touchdown drive to 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: make it twenty eight sets, and where James Connor had 152 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: fifty three rushing yards on that drive alone, and then 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: all of a sudden things changed for the Cardinals run game. 154 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: And here's another observation. I didn't watch the film. Paully 155 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: Pencilnek never played beyond high school. I'm just going to 156 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: give you an observation from the sideline. It looked like 157 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: the Giants defense Wink Martindale, went from a lot of 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: two high safety looks the first three quarters of the game, 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: where the Cardinals made them pay to a one high 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: safety and they started loading the box. So I know 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: a lot of Cardinals fans maybe are frustrated by what 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: they view as some conservative play calling and the gives 163 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: to James Connor that didn't net a lot of yards 164 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: down the stretch, But the Giants actually loaded the box 165 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: in that one. So in hindsight, and it's always twenty twenty, 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: you wonder are the Cardinals looking at their film on 167 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: a Monday morning saying, Wow, there were opportunities downfield in 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: that passing game, especially after they put an extra guy 169 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: in the box to stop number six. That we should 170 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: have taken advantage of. 171 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: Looking at what James Connor did do, and he had 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: an outstanding game as far as an individual performance is concerned, 173 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: over one hundred yards rushing for the second time in 174 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: his Cardinals' career, but that scoring drive five carries for 175 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: fifty three yards alone. The rest of the game, he 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: had five carries for three yards over the final four drives. 177 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: To your point, Paul, Wow, the Giants adjusted and the 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Cardinals again, you're playing with the lead, so you like 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: to use the ground game to work the clock a 180 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: little bit and then kind of bide your time. Yet 181 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: at the same time, are you not paying attention to 182 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: what's in front of you because you look and maybe 183 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown, who was a big part of the game 184 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: ear in the first half and then quiet in the 185 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: second half, does he have some more room to run? 186 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: What about Michael Wilson who was kind of quiet despite 187 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: playing a lot of snaps in that ball game. Maybe 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: that what you always say, adjust to the adjustment and 189 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: the Cardinals in the second half unable to do so, 190 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: whether it wasn't spotted or they just couldn't do it. 191 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: Quick enough. 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. Cardinals went into this game knowing 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: they were going to get a lot of man cover. 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: That's the mo that's the DNA of a Wink Martindale defense. 195 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: There's a couple of things he's gonna try and show 196 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: you unsound looks. He's going to try and make you 197 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 4: guess and predict who's coming, who's dropping. Talking to some 198 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: guys who have played against that scheme for a long 199 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: time when he was in Baltimore in particular, and there's 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: a lot of guys on this Cardinals team, Dobbs included 201 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: when he was with Pittsburgh. You're still going to go 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: against Wink, Brtondale, Drew Petzing with Cleveland, so they know 203 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: what it's all about. And there are a couple of rules. 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: Number One, you stick to your plan. You don't try 205 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: and predict who's coming, who's dropping, because you're gonna get 206 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: in trouble because then ultimately you're going to guess wrong. 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 4: Stick to your own fundamentals and rules and your own 208 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 4: scheme and the play that's called number two. Stay out 209 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: of third and longs. You gotta stay out of third 210 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: and lungs against the Wink Martindale defense. And I think 211 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: I heard you say on the air that there were 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: some numbers particular to that. Just like in Week one, 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: Cardinals got in an inordinate number of third and lungs 214 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: and they were not successful. 215 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: Cardinals overall on third down on Sunday four of ten 216 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: half of those so five times they were looking at 217 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: third and ten or long. And that has become a 218 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: troublesome stat over these first two games. Look, it's a 219 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: small sample size, but being better on first and second 220 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: down was something that was talked about a week ago, 221 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: and you want to be able to stay out of 222 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: third and long. Yet now through two games, Cardinals have 223 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: had twenty four third down opportunities. Almost half of those 224 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: eleven have looked third and ten or more and the 225 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: Cardinals are one of eleven in such situations. 226 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: Wow, it shows you a the degree of difficulty third 227 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: and ten plus in b especially when you have a 228 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: quarterback was making his fourth career start and has spent 229 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: three weeks with the team in the system. Guess what, 230 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: it's going to be even more difficult in that situation. Now, 231 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: that's not to say that Josh Dobbs didn't deliver and 232 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: everything he said after the Washington loss when he stood 233 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: in front of the media and said, I back to 234 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 4: a huge jump, and then on Wednesday he said from 235 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: week to week, it's been night and day. Guess what 236 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: he was right now. If you want to quibble, because 237 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: that's what we do in the media, we can go 238 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: back to the first possession and the missed potential touchdown 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 4: shot to zach Ertz. It was none too happy when 240 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: he came to the sideline. He was frustrated, slammed his gloves, 241 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: sat down all by himself, staring at his shoe tops. 242 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs came over and think recognized the frustration on 243 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 4: the face of zak Urtz because obviously they failed to 244 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: connect for a touchdown which should have been a touchdown 245 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: in week one at Washington, and he reached out his hand, 246 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: you know, they shook hands, but Ertz was frustrated. Now 247 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: he got into the game plan a little bit later. 248 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: But when you look back at that first possession, they 249 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: came up empty. Matt Prater missed a fifty five yard 250 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 4: field goal, and you just after that first possession, that 251 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: missed opportunity for a touchdown to zach Ertz, you just 252 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: said to yourself. Man, I hope they're not chasing that 253 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: the rest of the game. And then when he got 254 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: out twenty to nothing, twenty eight to seven, you completely 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: forgot about it. But by the end of the game, 256 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't help thinking about that first possession. 257 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: That play gets made if Josh Dobbs is here in March, 258 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: because the Cardinals were interested in Dobbs at the start 259 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: of free agency. That play gets made if Dobbs is 260 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: even here at the start of training camp. In other words, 261 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: that play gets made when a quarterback and a pass 262 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: catcher in this case it tied in have reps and 263 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: practice consistent reps. Dobbs's practice what maybe six seven, eight times, 264 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: and that includes zach Ertz being still maybe not quite 265 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent coming off that ACL MCL injury. So yeah, 266 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: that's a play that five weeks from now gets made. 267 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: But when you do not have those and this is 268 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: not an excuse, it's just a fact. And why was 269 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: such a huge hill decline for Dobbs to come in 270 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: and think he was just gonna move this offense up 271 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: and down the field. But as you pointed out a 272 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: year ago, from week seven to week eighteen and now 273 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: from week one to week two, there was improvement from 274 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs. What you saw in that first half look 275 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: very very good to where you're comfortable in having Dobbs 276 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: out there and waiting for Kyler Murray Win if he 277 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: does come back. Dobbs had master of that offense and 278 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: was getting the ball on time and to the right people, 279 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: and showed some physicality as well. Oh that touchdown run 280 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: and Xavier McKinney might still be feeling that hit at 281 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: the three yard line here on this Monday morning, first 282 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: career rushing touchdown for Dobbs that made it fourteen to nothing. 283 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: But someone that was not afraid of some physicality to 284 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: make sure that ball crossed the goal line. 285 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: Boom goes the free safety. That's what happened on that one. 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: And you know what what does that say to the 287 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: entire sideline? If a guy who wears the non contact 288 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: jersey six days a week can sacrifice his body like that, 289 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: can turn himself into a full speed battering ram, what 290 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: that says to the sideline is, oh, I better bring 291 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: my own physicality. In fact, I'll tell you this much. 292 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: James Connor on the sideline was about his fire was 293 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: probably the only guy more fired up than Josh Dobbs 294 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: at the Josh Dobbs twenty three yard touchdown run and 295 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: the kaboom at the goal line, which, by the way, 296 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: reminded me, did it not of Larry Fitzgerald his final 297 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: season at Seattle when he caught the ball at about 298 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: the ten at Seattle and there was one man between 299 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: him and the goal line and it was kJ Wright, 300 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: and Larry just lowered the boom on kJ Wright and 301 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: went straight through the weak side linebacker right into the 302 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: end zone. That's what it reminded me of. Josh Dobbs. Anyway, 303 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: I get sidetracked, there's James Connor on the sideline, pointing 304 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: to his head and yelling out some words which just 305 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: reading lips, I think he was shouting out. It's a mindset. 306 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: It's a mindset talking about physicality. And then that's when 307 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: James Connor started ripping off some of those ultra physical 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: runs and getting up and flexing and getting If nothing else, 309 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: that touchdown run by Dobbs definitely fired up the Cardinals 310 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: team captain at running back. 311 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: It's something to be said when you see that and 312 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: then hear the comments postgame, because I know not only 313 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: addressing the media postgame, but addressing you on postgame as well. 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Paul the head coach, Jonathan Gannon putting this loss on 315 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: his shoulders, on his and the coaching staff shoulders getting 316 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: out coached. That may well be the case that not 317 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: enough adjustments were made in that game, But just getting 318 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: the sense from some of the postgame comments that I heard, 319 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: this falls on the player's shoulders and the lack of execution. 320 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: Because let's talk a little bit about the play calling, 321 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: because we did get calls on that on Cardinal talking 322 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: of course, to be expected. Did the Cardinals get conservative 323 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: late in the game, And initially yeah, me and Rob 324 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Frederickson talking and talking to fans, yeah, you could. It 325 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: seemed like it was a little bit more conservative on 326 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: the surface. But then I went back this morning because 327 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: I just want to point out the last two possessions, 328 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: not counting the end of game drive. You get the 329 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: ball at the twenty yard line with fifteen seconds and 330 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: no timeout, so forget that. But the last two possessions 331 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: Cardinals go three and out net minus one yard. First 332 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: drive last eighty seconds, the second drive last less than 333 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: two minutes. But it's what happened in those two drives, 334 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: and it's not I don't think the play calling, more 335 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: about the play execution and just not being disciplined enough 336 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: as an offense. All Right, the first three and out 337 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: incomplete pass Connor one yard run and then yelled defro 338 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: Holt gets called for a false start and illegal snap. 339 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: So a third and nine becomes a third and fourteen, 340 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: and now you're playing from behind the sticks and that 341 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: just third and nine is not great, but a third 342 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: and fourteen is even worse. And on that play, a 343 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: short pass de Mercado goes for three yards. Now you 344 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: could question whether that ball should have gone deeper than 345 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: just underneath for three yards. But I think when you 346 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: got the lead, and at that point it was twenty 347 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: eight to twenty one, you might be trying to play 348 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: that field position game and put the onus on the 349 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: defense a little bit. 350 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm kicking myself. Yelda Froholt was our 351 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: postgame guest on the Cardinals radio network. I did not 352 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: ask him about the illegal snap. I know it's sort 353 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: of minutia in the game. It was a big play 354 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: at the time, and I happened to be standing right 355 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: on the line of scrimmage right behind the down judge. 356 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: Some I'm looking right down the line of scrimmage and 357 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: the way I described it on the air, because we're 358 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: all trying to figure out what was the call and 359 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: why was the flag thrown? Yeldafroholt walked up, never even 360 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: got set, didn't even get down in a three point stance, 361 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: completely walked up and snapped it. He was still like 362 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: in mid motion striding to the ball and snapped it bentover. 363 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: It's almost like in baseball a pitcher doesn't come set 364 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: and they call the bock. It was like the Bach 365 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: version of being a center and snapping the ball, and 366 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: so immediately the down judge threw the flag. It was 367 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: something I've never really seen before, I don't know, or 368 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: trying to get an edge, trying to get advantage. Let's 369 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 4: get on the ball and snapper real quick. But yeah, 370 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: that and then of course throw more offensive line penalties 371 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 4: in the next possession. 372 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, another three and out again nets minus one yard. 373 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: This one lasts less than two minutes and the game 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: is tied now at twenty eight. But a Connor one 375 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: yard run, another Connor three yard run, so you're looking 376 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: at third and six, which is perfectly manageable and doable. 377 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: Yet what happens Elijah Wilkinson back to back false star penalties, 378 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: So a third and six becomes the third and sixteen 379 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: and you're forced to basically just kind of give up 380 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: on that drive and there's a short pass to Zach 381 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Ertz for five yards. So to me, it wasn't so 382 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: much the play calling, it was the play execution. But 383 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: more than that was the offensive line getting called for 384 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: three false star penalties. There was a Hollywood Brown illegal 385 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: screen play in the second quarter that negated another chunk throw. 386 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: So once again again for the second straight week, we're 387 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: talking about the Cardinals hurting themselves with penalties. There were 388 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: only eight on Sunday, but five by the offense in 389 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: the second half alone, and each one of those five 390 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: actually the fifth one was that Josh Dobbs false start, 391 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: which I'm not even counting at that last final drive, 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: but four faults or four offensive penalties in that second 393 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: half that directly hampered the Cardinals trying to get anything 394 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: going after that initial touchdown to Hollywood Brown that made 395 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: it twenty eight to seven. 396 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: There's another possession that I think deserves a little scrutiny 397 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: it was at the end of the first half. JT 398 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: had the interception Jalen Thompson off the Kaiser deflection. Actually 399 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: it was just off the hands of the player and 400 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: then boom into the arms of Jalen Thompson. So then 401 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 4: the Cardinals came out. They had first intended the thirty 402 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: four of the Giants, and all of a sudden, they're looking. 403 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: I think it was third and eleven. Maybe it was 404 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: third and six. I'll have to go back and look, 405 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: and they remember that was the one where they gave 406 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 4: to Amari de Mercado. It's almost like they just sort 407 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: of gave up on the drive and said, let's just 408 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: take the field goal. To me, it was, okay, could 409 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: you have made more of an attempt to be more 410 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: aggressive right there on that third down that resulted and 411 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: just sort of a you know, position the ball here 412 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: for Matt Prater to come out, let's give it to 413 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 4: amar de Mercado on that one. I just wondered if 414 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: they regretted that in hindsight, not trying to be more 415 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 4: aggressive in that third down at the end of the 416 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: first half. 417 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: Two points one. That was another drive that a Michael 418 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: Wilson offensive pass interference was called, So it got you 419 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: behind the sticks. But to your point about the play call, 420 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: it was something that they passioned around. Wofully talked about 421 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: in real time on the broadcast. Wolf more so about 422 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: a little bit not I wouldn't say he was upset, 423 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: but just kind of wondering in real time, why would you, 424 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: to your point, kind of give up right there and 425 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: just kind of settle for something. If you're comfortable at 426 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: that point with Matt Prater, then why not take a 427 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: deep shot to try to get that first down on 428 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: third and long and try to get some extra points 429 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: on the score. But before you go into the locker 430 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: room instead, it's a forty four yard field goal. 431 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and again it was third and eleven. I just 432 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: looked it up so as another one of those third 433 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: and ten plus that the Cardinals have not been successful 434 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: at so far this year. What was it that they're 435 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: won for eleven and third and ten plus and two games? 436 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: Correct? 437 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: So obviously that goes near the top of the list. 438 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: You have to try and figure that out. And I 439 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: know Josh Dobbs got up there after the game and 440 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: talked about the ability to finish. But every single game 441 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: in the NFL is an accumulation of every single play Now, 442 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 4: do the good teams find a way at the end 443 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: of these games to win? Absolutely. You have a Giants 444 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: team that went to the playoffs last year, they were 445 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: eight and four and one score games. A Vikings team 446 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: that a year ago win eleven to zero in one 447 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: score games. Do you know I actually played a lot 448 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: of one score games and ended up on the wrong end. 449 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: The Houston Texans last year played like nine one score 450 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: games and were they were like one in eight. So 451 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: you can say you're close, but that's only on the scoreboard. 452 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: That's life in the NFL. Nearly sixty percent of the 453 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: games in the NFL come down to a single score 454 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: or less. You have to figure out a way to 455 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: win those one score games. It almost reminds me of 456 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: the first year a ken Wizen on two thousand and 457 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: seven Cardinals played a lot of close games that year 458 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: ended up on the short end, especially the first two 459 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 4: months of the year. It's a process. A lot of 460 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: players don't like to hear it. 461 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: You gotta learn to win. 462 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: Well, it's not so much learn to win, it's learn 463 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: the best practices and habits that contribute to a win. 464 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: Like maintaining your intensity for four quarters, like not beating 465 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 4: yourself with some of the self inflicted flags and other 466 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: mental errors. That all goes into the equation under the 467 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: umbrella of learning to win. 468 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: It's a four quarter game. It's not a two quarter game. 469 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: It's not even a three quarter game. It's a full 470 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: four quarters, sixty minutes. And for a lot of these 471 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: young players, yet there is that learning curve, if you will, 472 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: but it is something that is very difficult to do 473 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and that is win. Heading 474 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: into tonight's Monday Night football doubleheader, ten one score games 475 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: in Week two and the Cardinals on the wrong end 476 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: of back to back one score losses in each of 477 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: the first two weeks. They've lost two games by a 478 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: combined seven points. So yeah, on the scoreboard, they're right there. 479 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: They're competitive. And I'll say this, as much as Sunday hurt, 480 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: that was a competitive ballgame. Cardinals have looked good at times. 481 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they've been able to put it together 482 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: for a full four quarters to what we were talking 483 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: about earlier. But this is not the same old Cardinals. 484 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: This is not the Cardinals of twenty twenty two. This 485 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: is a team that will fights, but I still think 486 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: it's trying to learn on what it takes to do 487 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: it for sixty minutes. And even when you have a lead, 488 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: there is no lead safe in the NFL. 489 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: Think of last year, all the slow starts and zero 490 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: production or points in the first quarter and trailing at halftime. 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 4: I think all those situations a year ago. So this 492 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: is totally unlike what you saw a year ago in 493 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: the Cardinals. It's not the same team, not even close. 494 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: The mentality is different. Now, have you suffered from a 495 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 4: lack of talent at times? You want to talk about 496 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: the defense in the second half where the Giants had 497 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: five possessions, they had four touchdown drives and a game 498 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: winning field goal. There was nothing crazy that went on. 499 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: There wasn't we talked about the Monday night meltdown once 500 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: upon a time two thousand and six. There wasn't a 501 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: punt return by Devin Hester. There wasn't a crazy Edger 502 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: and James fumble out of nowhere that or got returned. 503 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: None of that happened, So you have to wonder. Okay, 504 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: I started by saying the D line depth was compromised 505 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 4: in a big way, and you knew going into the 506 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 4: season that might be your leanest position room on the roster, 507 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 4: and now you're down the three starters. And then I 508 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: don't think it's been mentioned nearly enough. How much did 509 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: you miss Buddha Baker, especially when the game was hanging 510 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: in the balance in crunch time? How much did you 511 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: this a Buddha Baker trying to stop Saquon Barkley that 512 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: second last drive by the Giants where he's breaking arm tackles. 513 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 4: Does Buddha Baker bring him down in space? Is Buddha 514 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: Baker as you couldn't get to Daniel Jones, especially in 515 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. Is he deployed on a safety blitz? 516 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: Is he utilized as a pass rusher off the edge 517 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: coming out of the slot or something like that. You know, 518 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: I didn't even ask the head coach about it after 519 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 4: the game and merits a mention. 520 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: At the very least didn't think about it in the 521 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: first half. There are just the opposite thoughts like, oh, 522 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: this is good. You don't need Buddha Baker. Of course 523 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: you need Buddha Baker. Question though, as we speak here 524 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: Monday morning, Paul, is when will we see number three 525 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: on the field again? Nothing definitive. I don't think you're 526 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: gonna get anything definitive from the head coach later on Monday, 527 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: but there is some real concern. One, even though you 528 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: saw Buddha Baker's name on the injury report on Friday, 529 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: Buddha Baker doesn't miss games. He plays through a lot 530 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: high ankle, a bad shoulder. And then the inactives get 531 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: announced and boot Baker shows up on it, so you 532 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: know it's serious. And then the fact that and we 533 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: talked about it during the Arizona Cardinals NFL kickoff show 534 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: with Darren and Danny, what moves are made before the 535 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: game on Saturday that can tell us what really is 536 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: going on? And when you see Andre Sasshire signed, not elevated, 537 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: but signed to the active roster. Now you've got four safeties, 538 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: three of them healthy. Sashra started played nearly the entire game. 539 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: Is that leading us to think that this might be 540 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: a short term, hopefully not a long term situation in 541 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: which Buddha Baker is not going to be available. 542 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: And the answer is, we don't know the fact Buddha 543 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: Baker was not spotted at the game, what does that 544 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: mean exactly? Is he somewhere else? Getting treatment. Did you 545 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: have to go out of town to see some sort 546 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: of specialist. I have no idea. It's abject speculation at 547 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: this point. But I saw other players on the injury 548 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 4: list on on that sideline, So what does that mean? 549 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: Don't know? 550 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: Do know that Buddha Baker proclaimed himself in the best 551 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: shape of his career before this season started. I do, 552 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: And you were right there. We were talking with him 553 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: leading into the Week two game and he kind of 554 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: made half a joke about the Week one game of Washington. 555 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: He didn't do a whole bunch. The front seven was 556 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: so good was flying to the ball, Kaiser White and 557 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 4: the outside linebackers that he said, how many times did 558 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: I drop into coverage? Oh there's another sack. Oh there's 559 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 4: another quarterback hit. Oh there's a samhow throwing the ball away. 560 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: They're not even coming my way. So, once again, to 561 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: come full circle on our point, you don't need Buddha 562 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Baker until you need Buddha Baker, until you need a 563 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 4: game saving play, until you need somebody to make a 564 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: play with the game hanging in the balance. And that 565 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: time was the fourth quarter of this Week two lost 566 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: to the Giants. 567 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: After the game Budda Baker did reach out on social 568 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: media quote, that was a tough one. The guys fought hard. 569 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: Wish I could have been out there with my bros. 570 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: My time will come, God's plan, Go Cards. And that 571 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: was the extense of Buddha Baker. The other situation we 572 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: kind of talked around about the defensive line because LJ. 573 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: Collier on IR with a biceps injury, and now Carlos 574 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: Watkins hurts in that first half with a biceps injury. 575 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: And sometimes I don't know what it is, but there 576 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: always seems to be a position group and a specific 577 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: injury that always seems to hit a team each and 578 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: every year, and perhaps it's the defensive line of the 579 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals and an arm injury, and again serious enough for 580 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: Callier to go on IR, which is at least four weeks, 581 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: and the way Gannon was talking postgame, it's probably going 582 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: to be longer than that, hopefully not season ending. But 583 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: now Carlos Watkins gets hurt with another arm injury. 584 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: See, I didn't know exactly in the nature of the 585 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: injury on Carlos Watkins, but it makes sense because he 586 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: came to the sideline. He didn't seem to be in 587 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: a lot of pain and he was walking fine. So 588 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: I was kind of perplexed, like, what's going on exactly 589 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 4: was the very end of the first half, and then 590 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: to start the second half we were informed of the injury, 591 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: and so, yeah, that's not good. That is not good 592 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: at all. Once again, that was already you're probably arguably 593 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: the position group with the least amount of depth to 594 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: start this season. And so, and I'll tell you what, 595 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: knock on wood, Cardinals dodged a bullet with a key 596 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: Troll Clark injury in the second half that looked really bad. 597 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: He came to the sideline, he walked right past me, 598 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: Craig the look of anguish on his face, and he 599 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: immediately went down once he got to the sideline, and 600 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: they're working on that leg and it was in the 601 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: area of the knee, and I'm like, oh, no, plays, 602 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: no football gods, give us a break over here. And 603 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: they put him into the blue tent, the medical tent, 604 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: and then he popped out started going into back pedals. 605 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I'm curious exactly what happened. Maybe 606 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: he got kicked in the shin el grande, I don't know. 607 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: But then he eventually was back onto the field on 608 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: the next defensive series. So thank goodness, Aric, because that's 609 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: the next thinnest position group corner. 610 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: It was an injury because he didn't come all the 611 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: way to the bench and because that was a play 612 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: into the end zone where he gets hurt and immediately 613 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: just goes to that basically where you stand on the sideline, 614 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: you're not in the bench area, and he's on the ground, 615 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: and you're like, what is going on? He couldn't make 616 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: it to the bench, and then eventually he does and 617 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: you're seeing him out of the blue tent and he's 618 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: working with the training staff doing back pedals, and you're like, 619 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I guess everything's okay. Now, how does he feel today? 620 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: Because obviously there was no imaging during the game. He 621 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: never even left the field of play, so you wonder 622 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: and hopefully he's okay, because, yeah, that's a concern, especially 623 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: with how poor Marco Wilson played. If your number one 624 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: corner is not playing well and your number two corner 625 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: is less than one hundred percent. They haven't brought it 626 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: up yet, Paul, but the Dallas Cowboys are a pretty 627 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: good football team. Ceedee Lamb had over one hundred receiving 628 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: yards on Sunday against the Jets. So we can get 629 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: more into that later in the week. But this now 630 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: is a huge challenge ahead and we knew it was 631 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: going to be. That's why these first two games, as 632 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: close as the Cardinals played and as well as they played, 633 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: where you just needed some semblance of positivity or validation 634 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: of what this coaching staff has been coaching and preaching. 635 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: After the game, Omar Ruiz NFL Network did a one 636 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: on one with Micah Parsons. He said, when did you 637 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 4: know you were going to take over this game? Michael 638 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 4: Parsons said, Monday. So he's playing with a lot of confidence, 639 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: let's put it that way. And so far he's playing 640 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: like the NFL defensive Player of the year. He looks, 641 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: dare I say it hello? 642 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Now? 643 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: He looks like a modern day LT out there. He 644 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: is wreaking havoc wherever they put him, and it looks 645 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: like they put him anywhere and everywhere in that front seven. 646 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: He is an X factor to the nth degree. And 647 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: so you got to account from Michaeh. Parsons that defense 648 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: has been utterly dominant and got to figure that out. 649 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: And then yeah, the Cardinals on defense with a depleted 650 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: defensive line with some question marks at corner. We have 651 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: seen Dak Prescott when he gets hot. When he gets hot, 652 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: he can be hot and cold, There's no doubt about it. 653 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: But there is a lot to worry about. Dallas still 654 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: has a stout enough offensive line, not what it used 655 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: to be, and with Pollard coming in or running back, 656 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: there's a lot to account for in this game. And 657 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: guess what, You're gonna have a Dallas team that travels. 658 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: There's no question about that too. 659 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I need to ask because I could hear 660 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: it from my press box seat which is behind plexiglass. 661 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: And I mentioned the Elijah Wilkinson back to back fall 662 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: star penalties there late in the fourth quarter. Just how 663 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: loud was it? And again, fans can do whatever they 664 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: want to do. Yet at the same time, you shouldn't 665 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: have to rely on a silent count at your own 666 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: home building. All ah, the la rams, which that seems 667 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: to be a weekly occurrence. 668 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: There's no doubt it was a factor against the Cardinals offense. 669 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: In fact, I saw Wilkinson after the second false start 670 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: point to his ear hole as if I'm having trouble hearing, 671 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: So there's no doubt it factored in it. Whether Cardinals 672 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: went into a silent count or not, I don't know. 673 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: If they did, it would make sense based on the 674 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: volume level. And once again, you gave the Giants fans 675 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: in attendance reason to cheer. They were silent. It was 676 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: like it was like a golf match minus the Phoenix Open. 677 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: It was like a golf tournament. In the first half. 678 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: They were so silent they had nothing to cheer about, virtually. 679 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: So once you gave a reason to get into the game, 680 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: the fans guess what, It just helped build the momentum 681 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 4: of the Giants. Sure, and but once again, I get 682 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 4: back to the intensity. When they were looking at oh 683 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: and two in the facing on Thursday night road trip 684 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: to the forty nine Ers, they're staring at oh to three. 685 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: That's when all of a sudden, the urgency kicked in 686 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 4: for the Giants. 687 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: Giants win thirty one twenty eight, Cardinals outscored thirty one 688 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: to eight, and the second half and yeah, Cardinals oz 689 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: and two for the first time since twenty eighteen. With 690 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys come into town next a road trip 691 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: to San Francisco on October one first, and then after 692 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: four weeks we'll reevaluate where potentially Kyler Murray may or 693 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: may not be. Remember, he's got to miss the first 694 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: four games at least before there's any talk of him 695 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: returning for the Cardinals. So that's kind of where we 696 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: are at right now. But I know, Paul, because we've waited, 697 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: and the Bird gang has waited so long. But I 698 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: do think we have to pay it off. And this 699 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: is going to be a weekly occurrence, win or lose, 700 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: But the weekly Angry Bird Award as you now have it, 701 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: and there's a beautiful picture up on social media as well, 702 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: courtesy our team photographer Caitlin that now maybe not presented 703 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: to a player, but at least going to be displayed 704 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: each and every week. 705 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: So it's given to the most hillatious play or player. 706 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 4: In week one, it was given to the most talatious 707 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 4: player in Dennis Gardek the Barbarian. In week two we're 708 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: giving it to the most talatious play, which has to 709 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: be the quarterback Josh Dobbs and going kubboom at the 710 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: goal line, taking out the free safety and finish that 711 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: twenty three yard touchdown run. So here we go. The 712 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: Angry Bird Award will be given via social media, all right, 713 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: and honor only to Josh Dobbs, your quarterback. Now, if 714 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 4: he also ends up getting a scepter from NFL network, 715 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised as well, because there's no 716 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: doubt he got props from James Counter on the sideline, 717 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 4: a two time a Sceptor Award winner, who, by the way, 718 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 4: doesn't really even display as sceptors. I asked James Counter 719 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 4: about that once. What is the deal with the Sceptor? 720 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Do you have him? 721 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: He's like no, I got them in a closet somewhere. 722 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, come, oh, so do you actually get to 723 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: keep him? You're not asked to send him back to 724 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Brand now, so you get him, they send you 725 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: one out. It might not be it's sort of like 726 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: a you know, the Super Bowl ring given to like 727 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: the third string long snapper. They might give you one 728 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: that's worth a lot less than the then goes to 729 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback. 730 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: But you get one. Okay, it's my understanding. 731 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 2: And that specific play did capture the attention of Kyle Brand. 732 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: He was very quick on social media on Twitter to 733 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: mention that highlight and so We'll have to wait and see. 734 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: There was also and I can't remember the running back, 735 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: but he doesn't do it for college But did you 736 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: happen to see the play on Saturday? And LSU running 737 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: back just truck over a defensive back. It was one 738 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: of the most vicious stiff arms I've seen since Derrick Henry. 739 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: But it basically pushed the defender back about three or 740 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: four yards. Was it was trending a little bit on 741 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: Saturday during the entire college football slate. 742 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna have to go look at 743 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: that because I made the mistake of investing my Saturday 744 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 4: evening into watching the ASU game. So I need something 745 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 4: worthwhile to watch. I'm gonna go find that, Cliff, what 746 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: about the Golden Bears. No, well, I'm not Paulie Packed 747 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: twelve network. So that actually saved me from actually investing 748 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 4: time into watching a game against Idaho, So we didn't 749 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 4: Nobody really needed that on a Saturday night. So actually, 750 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: in that one instance there, I was actually thankful. I 751 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 4: don't get the pac twelve networks. 752 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: So we always want to leave this show with some positivity. 753 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: Syracuse is three and oh, so we'll just drop that 754 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: in there. For everyone that cares, which is basically no 755 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: one except for you know, Garrett Williams and Nolan Cooney 756 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: and that Cardinals locker room. Oh and Dave Pash and 757 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 2: Quinton Harris in the front office. Oh yeah, by the way, 758 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: we could use Garrett Williams. Oh yeah, I know. 759 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 4: I mean, what does your Syracuse you know network say, 760 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: I mean, all those insiders, at least all those network 761 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 4: insiders with Syracuse. You guys just have your little Syracuse 762 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: mafia going all the time. Start hitt up all your sources. 763 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: What's the timetable on Garret Williams? Guss, they could use 764 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: some help at corner right now? 765 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sooner hopefully instead of later for Garrett Williams 766 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: and the rest of the injuries facing the Cardinals. So again, 767 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: not great, but certainly some things to build upon and 768 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 2: obviously correct before the Cardinals host the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday. 769 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: And on that note, we'll put a lid on this 770 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proudly partner 771 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 2: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 772 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: executive producer Jim mamahudrez are So Shit producer Coddy Fincher 773 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 2: for Paul Calvc. I'm Creig, Real Lou. We'll talk to 774 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: you next time here on Cardinals cover two.