WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: The Defense Calls….

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the Hopes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Monday, June twenty third. This is the seventh

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're told the final week of testimony in

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<v Speaker 2>the Didy trial. Welcome to this Didy Update episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Amy and TJ. We've been keeping you updated throughout. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like roads. Now we have much longer to go.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a better idea of the timeline of this trial,

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<v Speaker 2>and your honor, the defense calls.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no one right exactly. So that was the breaking

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<v Speaker 3>news this morning. We were all waiting in anticipation for

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<v Speaker 3>who the defense might call to the witness stand and

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<v Speaker 3>how long they might go. We had heard it could

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<v Speaker 3>take one or two days, so we didn't figure there'd

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<v Speaker 3>be many people who would be testifying.

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<v Speaker 4>But it turns out no one is going to be testifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the defense is said it will not call any

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<v Speaker 3>witnesses to this stand, and that means one can assume

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<v Speaker 3>or presume that they believe they have made their case.

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<v Speaker 3>They have made their defense of Sean Ditty Combs in

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<v Speaker 3>their cross examinations of the prosecution's witnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still blown away by what they're saying they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. So the witness is on the stand for

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution. Their final one, this Homeland Security agent. He

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be up there until the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, and they expect him to go ropes into tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>The defense says they will then be done tomorrow. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not even taking a full day to defend Diddy. That

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<v Speaker 2>blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>It's bold, It's really bold.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super confident, and I can see how perhaps that

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<v Speaker 3>would send a message to the jury because everyone expects

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<v Speaker 3>someone at least to have one witness or a few

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<v Speaker 3>witnesses to testify in your defense. The fact that they're

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<v Speaker 3>not calling anyone actually could be a brilliant move in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of what the jury was expecting, because they're thinking, well, hell,

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't need to call anyone, they must have

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<v Speaker 3>proven their case. I mean, I can see how that

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<v Speaker 3>would create a certain mindset in a jury because it

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<v Speaker 3>is not I mean, it happens, It's not unprecedented by

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<v Speaker 3>any means. I mean, this is something that happens quite often,

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<v Speaker 3>but in a case this big, with the stakes so high,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we all remember, Diddy is facing life in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a couple of years, This isn't just

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<v Speaker 3>a few offenses. This is serious, significant stuff where his

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<v Speaker 3>life is on the line, So to not call any

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<v Speaker 3>witnesses is bold, and I you know, it could be brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll only know after the jury renders it's verdict.

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<v Speaker 2>Bold, brilliant, it could be the exact right move. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we are we've watched a bunch of trials, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are not legal experts at all. These folks know what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, is what I generally find. And if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like Diddy, who has his resources, he is he has

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<v Speaker 2>the best lawyers with.

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<v Speaker 4>Names like Garrigos and Shapiro his.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean history makers in this country in a law

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<v Speaker 2>of legal and celebrity cases. They know what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're making the right the best and you better

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<v Speaker 2>sure believe did he signs off on this defense? And

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<v Speaker 2>how this is going? But they said they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>present a defense of just a few items of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>and exhibits. I don't know how earth shattering those could be,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's their defense. Here you go, here's our homework,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they did spend days cross examining the star witnesses,

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<v Speaker 3>Cassie Ventura and Jane, so certainly they did. You could

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<v Speaker 3>say spend. They spent days presenting their case through the

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<v Speaker 3>cross examination of the prosecution's witness, and it may be

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't even have a witness to call to

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<v Speaker 3>refute any of the claims. And the people who know

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<v Speaker 3>the people who were there to testify were the people

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<v Speaker 3>that the prosecution already called. So who else would they

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<v Speaker 3>bring on the stand? I mean, people had wondered if

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<v Speaker 3>KK would be coming up, if one of his bodyguards

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<v Speaker 3>would be coming up. But many of them might feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows the reasoning behind it? But they made the

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<v Speaker 3>choice not to bring anyone up to refute anything.

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<v Speaker 4>They feel like they did their job.

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<v Speaker 3>In showing and frankly, they did discredit quite a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of what Jane had to say or even Cassie. When

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<v Speaker 3>you at least it brings a question in the juror's

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<v Speaker 3>mind when you hear them say I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, I was coerced to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a financial reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I had to do it, And then you have

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<v Speaker 3>text from them saying I can't wait to be with you,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to do some freaky stuff with you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard, and that certainly casts doubt in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>what the state are sorry. I always say the state.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of what the Feds are trying to prove.

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<v Speaker 1>Do moments matter?

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<v Speaker 2>Do moments stand out for a jury that could possibly

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<v Speaker 2>sway them one way or another? And I say moments.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like the defense had more than the prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>The Perry Mason moment we will never forget. It seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like they made more headway sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Than the prosecution seems to have. Does that matter?

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<v Speaker 2>You think if the margins are that slim, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the psychology, it might get into their brains.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't present any witnesses, So in that same vein,

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<v Speaker 2>is it possible that moments matter throughout the trials.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the jury?

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<v Speaker 4>Moments absolutely matter.

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<v Speaker 3>The Perry Mason moment was pivotal, and there were several

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<v Speaker 3>slightly less perhaps like explosive moments in that, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were plenty of them. When they had witnesses go back

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<v Speaker 3>and read texts that were omitted, and the texts actually

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<v Speaker 3>showed a very different vein of motivation for why these

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<v Speaker 3>women might have participated. It was incredibly damning, I believed,

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<v Speaker 3>to the prosecution's case. When the defense had some of

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<v Speaker 3>these other texts read that frankly flew in the face

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<v Speaker 3>of what we heard in testimony from these women.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you know what, and just the psychology of life.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't confidence so powerful?

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<v Speaker 3>And by not calling any witnesses that is so confident,

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<v Speaker 3>so confident?

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<v Speaker 2>How did I forget you? I'm sitting here and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, I forgot I had this. I've reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to a prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend of ours.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, That's all I say, just because that was my question.

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<v Speaker 2>Why on guides Earth that please help me understand why

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<v Speaker 2>the defense in the Ditty trial would not call any witnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>The response and I quote because they think they have

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<v Speaker 2>one already and they may have wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the prosecution has called thirty four witnesses to

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<v Speaker 3>the stand and the final one is on the stand today.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to connect the dots summarizing these freak offs, going

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<v Speaker 3>through explicit videos, going through the paid receipts that Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>has had purchased plane tickets for some of these women

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<v Speaker 3>and some of these male escorts to attend these parties.

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<v Speaker 4>My question is, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 3>He paid for these folks to participate in these freak

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<v Speaker 3>offs around the country, so crossing state lines. But if

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<v Speaker 3>they went there willingly, if they weren't coerced, if you

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<v Speaker 3>can even call into question that they may have wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do it at the time and regretted it later,

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<v Speaker 3>any seat of doubt about any of that throws the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution's argument out the window, because they need the jury

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<v Speaker 3>to believe that these women and maybe even these escorts

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really want to be there and felt they had to.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the charge again, I have to look at

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<v Speaker 1>these house in here.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's pleaded not guilty to racketeering conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the big one. He could get life for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, two counts of sex trafficking by force, sex trap

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<v Speaker 3>that's what it is, by force. And the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 3>about that is the in fact what they were going

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<v Speaker 3>over today and on Friday with this home security agent.

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<v Speaker 3>He was actually going through the text messages of Cassie

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<v Speaker 3>and Jane where they at first told KK, his chief

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<v Speaker 3>of staff, I don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just using me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be there, But then after talking

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<v Speaker 3>to Diddy, they decided to come.

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<v Speaker 4>They made the choice to come.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just confused how that would be force, two

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<v Speaker 3>counts of sex trafficking by force, then fraud or oh

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<v Speaker 3>sorry I skipped it, two counts of sex trafficking by force,

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<v Speaker 3>fraud or coercion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now one of those do carry a fifteen year.

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<v Speaker 3>Minimum, Okay, so force, fraud or coercion. And then he's

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<v Speaker 3>also facing two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are only those are a maximum of ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that would be the lesser charge it

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<v Speaker 2>he gets convicted of that, But how is he not

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<v Speaker 2>for prostitution? To engage in prostitution? So they have evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that he paid to have a male escort come to.

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<v Speaker 1>New York for a freak off?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that that seems like that's a done deal to me?

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<v Speaker 3>The two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, just

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<v Speaker 3>from my non legal mind and what I've witnessed and

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<v Speaker 3>what I've read, it seems like they kind of nailed

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<v Speaker 3>that one. They have the receipts, they have the proof,

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<v Speaker 3>they have the videos, and clearly the male escorcords who

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<v Speaker 3>were engaged in sex that you could clearly see on

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<v Speaker 3>the videotape were clearly paid. So and many times yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they crossed state lines.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was the name of the one the escort website.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, oh, it was Cowboys for Angels Aloys eight or Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>For Cowboys, Cowboys for Angel Voice Rangel.

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<v Speaker 2>So that company came out in testimony today the same

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<v Speaker 2>day that he was such a long term customer that

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted a discount, that he was upset with him

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<v Speaker 2>for raising their rates, and they have the communication between

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<v Speaker 2>him and the Cowboys for Angels agency. His line is

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<v Speaker 2>stop raising my rate. I am a long timer. They

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<v Speaker 2>have that from him two Cowboys for Angel Cowboys for Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>Technically, I imagine to be a legal business would have

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<v Speaker 3>to just say, hey, these are just escorts.

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<v Speaker 4>These are just people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who were there for your pleasure, not for sexual pleasure,

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<v Speaker 3>but just to be there and to accompany you and

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you want to go and whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But clearly they're not acknowledging that this is for sex.

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<v Speaker 3>But clearly we have the videos that show that is

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<v Speaker 3>in fact what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, speaking of the legal part of that, So what

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<v Speaker 2>if all he was doing was hiring an escort to

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<v Speaker 2>come to New York and be and escort to escort

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<v Speaker 2>him or someone else around and lo and behold, sex

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<v Speaker 2>ended up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a legal argument?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez, now that you just said that, I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that is possible, because they could say the escort decided,

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<v Speaker 3>after hanging out for a while that just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because he liked everybody, he just wow, maybe he was horny,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he just wanted to have sex, but the payment

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<v Speaker 3>was specifically for companionship, not for sex.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly that just was a light bulb that went off

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<v Speaker 3>in your head. And then yes, I concur that does

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<v Speaker 3>sound reasonable in terms of a legal explanation to get

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<v Speaker 3>around the actual charge.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, look, we're not gonna get a witness now for.

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<v Speaker 3>The defense, but we will hear from the defense attorneys,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will hear. We now know closing arguments are

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled for Thursday. Correct, And so this case, this seven

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<v Speaker 3>week long case, with thirty four witnesses and lots of

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<v Speaker 3>graphic videos and a tremendous amount of jaw dropping testimony,

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<v Speaker 3>is all going to be in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 3>jury as early as Thursday afternoon, perhaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Even again, they have a conference on Wednesday. The judge says,

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<v Speaker 2>for the attorneys and the judge to go over the

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<v Speaker 2>jury instructions. I have been a part in seeing jury instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>That go half a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, it goes, it takes a while, so.

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<v Speaker 3>And in this case, probably definitely going to take a

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<v Speaker 3>very long time. I have you know, we have as

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<v Speaker 3>much as we can sitting in our apartment monitoring everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Still I would need to be redirected and shown what

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<v Speaker 3>is what and what means this and what's the level

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<v Speaker 3>of proof.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I it's mind blowing. You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge could have instructions for half a day, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the defense and the prosecution, who knows

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<v Speaker 3>how long they'll take.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they read though, Yeah, they make sure they read

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<v Speaker 2>every single line of the instructions. It's almost a manual

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<v Speaker 2>you get when you buy a new appliance and he's

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<v Speaker 2>reading through and you're trying to follow what all this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff means. Now, I have never robes And tell me

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<v Speaker 2>if you have been a part of jury instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>That were quick.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's never a quick process.

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<v Speaker 4>The jury.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is well, most of the trials, I would

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<v Speaker 3>imagine all of the trials. I know that I have

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<v Speaker 3>actually personal personally witnessed have been for murder. So people's

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<v Speaker 3>lives are on the line, and they want to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that all the t'ser crossed, all the eyes are dotted.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to make sure the jury knows exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>they have to do and what.

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<v Speaker 4>The burden of proof is.

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<v Speaker 3>That that is the gray area, what is reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's gonna be some fighting in between the attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>about the language that goes. They always are so so

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<v Speaker 2>particular about what types of language, type of language can

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<v Speaker 2>go into those things. Because after that that the defense

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<v Speaker 2>all the attorneys have no more say.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody can do anything. It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't make any other case once they go into

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<v Speaker 2>that jury room. So this is their last chance to

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<v Speaker 2>have some kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>An influence on the jury.

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<v Speaker 2>The closing arguments, is it who goes first?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember? Is it prosecution again?

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<v Speaker 4>I think? See, I think I thought the defense had

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<v Speaker 4>the last word. I need to look this option?

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<v Speaker 3>Did?

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>This is embarrassing?

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<v Speaker 4>One of us is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>We should know why because I used to remember thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't fair that whoever went last got to

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<v Speaker 2>go last.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, that's like everyone would want to go last

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<v Speaker 4>in this sason.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the prosecution got to go last.

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<v Speaker 4>That's she's I'm looking this up right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of the jury, we ended up only

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<v Speaker 3>losing one juror through we thought at one point we

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<v Speaker 3>might lose three jurors, but we only ended up losing

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<v Speaker 3>one juror.

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<v Speaker 4>And the alternates are still there.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's kind of moot, now, right do they get

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<v Speaker 3>to participate in the actual jury deliberations or be a

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<v Speaker 3>part of it if something were to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I actually don't know that. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you over there Google and stuff? Look that up?

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<v Speaker 2>To do alternates need to be in the deliberating room?

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess it's possible they could start deliberating and

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<v Speaker 2>something happens with a juror.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that possible? Did you get the answer?

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<v Speaker 3>I got the answer for the court cases, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>always right? Why do I even try to pretend like

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<v Speaker 3>I might have something that is correct over you? All?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>In court cases, the party with the burden of proof

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<v Speaker 3>generally gets the last word. This is usually the prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>in criminal cases and the plaintiff in civil cases. They

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<v Speaker 3>get the opportunity for a closing argument or rebuttal after

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<v Speaker 3>the opposing side has presented its case.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always thought that was unfair. My life was

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. I should get the last word always,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I remember it. I thought that was wild.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so the prosecution will get the last word

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<v Speaker 1>before they all get to go in. I am reading

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<v Speaker 1>something here. I know you. Did you find it already?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay, Well about alternature Yes, so there were six

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<v Speaker 3>alternate jurors. I think we're down to five alternate jurors

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<v Speaker 3>because one of the alternate jurors became actually a member

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<v Speaker 3>of the jury, so no. Alternate jurors Generally do not

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<v Speaker 3>participate in jury deliberations unless a regular juror is unable

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<v Speaker 3>to continue serving. If an alternate juror replaces a regular

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<v Speaker 3>juror during deliberations, the court will then instruct the jury

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<v Speaker 3>to begin deliberations unnew So if anything happens during the

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<v Speaker 3>actual deliberation and some juror has to leave, they can

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<v Speaker 3>actually appoint an alternate to come step in, but then

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<v Speaker 3>they have to start all over again. So let's hope

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't happen. But I'm so happy we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to answer our own questions in this podcast. I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>sure everybody was on the edge of their seats waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for the answer, or they're like, I already know that, dummy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was waiting on the edge of the seat. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that is I only bring it up and it

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a big deal. But the jury has been

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<v Speaker 2>a little weird. Been some wonky stuff going on with

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<v Speaker 2>this jury at times, and some questions. One got kicked off,

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<v Speaker 2>one was about to get kicked off, and of them

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<v Speaker 2>got sick. It's just some stuff. One of them was

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<v Speaker 2>nodding it, and a.

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<v Speaker 4>Black jur was replaced by a white jur. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there are all from Westchester, from the Bronx to.

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<v Speaker 2>Westchester, and so it's so that's why I just hold

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<v Speaker 2>my brether when it comes to this particular jury. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't believe this is it when I heard

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<v Speaker 2>they were only going to when they said there the

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<v Speaker 2>prose consecution is going to rest on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense is going to rest on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wild again, bold and possibly brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>The best in the business are defending him, so they

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing. He's not going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>better defense than this, or a better strategy. I turn

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<v Speaker 2>on a TV somewhere today and you'll have somebody criticizing this,

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<v Speaker 2>says ah, some legal expert.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing this, and that some legal analysts, da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, when he is found not guilty

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<v Speaker 2>on something, they'll come back on and what will be

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<v Speaker 2>their excuse then.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, perhaps they knew more than we did,

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<v Speaker 3>or they believed something that we didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 4>Who knows, but it will be fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, in a weird way, it's we've been

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<v Speaker 3>so glued to every word, every bit of testimony to

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<v Speaker 3>think that it's all coming to an end kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feels strange and like, Okay, here it is. And I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder what Diddy is feeling right now, if he feels confident,

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<v Speaker 3>if he's you know, all of the folks or all

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<v Speaker 3>of the reporters in the courtroom have reported on him

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<v Speaker 3>being actively involved, leaning forward, watching the monitor, reading like

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<v Speaker 3>they get a testimony they have the words of.

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<v Speaker 4>So he doesn't miss anything. I mean, he has been very, very,

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<v Speaker 4>very a huge part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>And to your point, he obviously had to sign off

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<v Speaker 3>on not calling any witnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he has been in prison since last September. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and he could potentially either walk out of there in

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<v Speaker 2>the next week, you could even argue, or he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to find out he's going to prison for a long,

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<v Speaker 2>long time. We should have that answer soon. I even

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<v Speaker 2>thought about the possibility of miss trials and hunger.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, who knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are there are a million different not

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<v Speaker 3>a million, but there are several different outcomes that could

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<v Speaker 3>take place here, including he gets convicted on a lesser

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<v Speaker 3>charge and gets credit for time served and isn't in prison.

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<v Speaker 4>For that long, or maybe he has already done his time.

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<v Speaker 4>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will continue to watch everything that goes on

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<v Speaker 3>in that Lower Manhattan courtroom and bring you the very

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<v Speaker 3>latest and you know, the big bombshaw today. The defense

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<v Speaker 3>is not calling any witnesses. The defense will rest the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Day the prosecution does. So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 4>listening to us. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll keep the updated but in the meantime, hope you

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<v Speaker 3>have a wonderful day today.