WEBVTT - "Money" w/ Mo Fry Pasic 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.280 Okay, podcast starts. Now, what's up everyone? Um Happy Tuesday. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.440 You're listening to Stradio Lab, the only podcast in which 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.120 two days unpacked straight culture but also not really um 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.800 man to think that you're saying happy Tuesday? Really, oh 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.720 my god? You know what's about to happen? Is your 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.559 sister really walking literally about to walk it? Okay? For 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.880 the listeners at home, George said, Okay, we're gonna start, 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.680 and you know what's gonna happen As soon as we start, 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.479 My sister is gonna walk in the door because she's visiting, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.600 and we're gonna have to stop. And so what's happening 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.960 right now is you guys have a direct view to 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.240 the event that is about to happen. You can see 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.280 my front door. I can see the front door. It's shaking, 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:06.760 it's wobbling. She's banging on it. Oh it's unlocking. Oh 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.760 my god. And she's like, first had to have an 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.120 unlock a door. Okay, this is really anti climactic. It 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.080 would actually be great at the door did open on 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:24.200 que and there it is, and there she is. Hi 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:38.160 where Okay, she's getting water. This is an amazing little artifact. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.520 They can't tell if this is going to stay in. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.000 Part of me wants it to because I'm obsessed with 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.280 the podcast as a document. But I know George is 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.280 going to lean towards sort of cutting this out because 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.560 it is kind of I don't know. I I think, um, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.560 I think there's something to it. I think there's something 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.160 to it too. I think it's raw. I think it's 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.120 like no one sees this side of George that to 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:05.400 me that has a family as a family, I like that. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.960 I think it's so funny too that your sister walks 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.040 in and you're like, you do stop, you turn around, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.680 but there's not like uh huh, like there's no like warmth. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.639 So you're just like, well there is one. No. I mean, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.360 it's tough because, like you know, when you're suddenly torn 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.359 between two worlds. It's like when your college friends meet 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.400 your comedy friends, or when your family meets your you know, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:33.400 significant other or something. I was like, suddenly the curtain 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.160 was up, and I'm recording a podcast at the same 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.360 time as I'm I would otherwise be warmly welcoming my 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.840 sister into my apartment and I and I froze. My 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.040 sister had very close I would normally get up and 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.959 give her a hug and welcome her. But I was like, well, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.040 I can't. It doesn't seem authentic for suddenly, if I 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.560 did that, it would be like performing. So I literally 0:02:54.639 --> 0:03:01.760 just turned around, looked at her, didn't even say a word. Yeah, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:07.919 I I over as you like checked in. Now, well 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.240 this is what I'm kind of confused by it because 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.200 she was like, I'm gonna get water. But then she 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.760 walked into the closed door, so there is still the 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.720 possibility at some point she'll come out to get water. Okay, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.280 so this could be a sort of an episode longum 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.840 gag if you will. Is the sister in the background 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.120 that you can't here necessarily but you can know is 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.560 there because we're telling that's right, she is there. Yeah, okay, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.480 So I mean at this point, what there's no way 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.400 to rebound from that? No, I think there's a way. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.440 I think I want to talk about the thing that 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.440 you just said about, like when you feel the need 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.280 to perform and that makes you not want to perform 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.560 because you don't want to be performative. I feel like 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.839 I'm like that at like birthdays sometimes or holidays where 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.720 we'll be like you're supposed to be really smiling and 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.480 you're supposed to be big, but and I'll be like, well, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.760 I'm supposed to be that, so I want to be 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.480 the opposite of that. But then I'm like, but now 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.040 I'm being rude and I don't want to be rude, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.520 but it's too late because I already started being rude. Okay. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.880 You know what's a um A kind of element of 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:16.800 that is like phrases and actions that have become so 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.400 associated with the fake versions, like things you see on 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.080 TV and film, that they can never feel authentic. Can 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.680 you ever feel authentic saying the words I love you? 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.279 Or is it literally like you are saying something that 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.839 is in a movie? Can you ever feel authentic being 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:38.960 like like giving a wedding toast or even frankly getting married? Like, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.560 like can any can? It is impossible. It's like to 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.440 live in a world that is media saturated means that 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:50.360 you experience more things as artificial than as real. Yeah. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.680 I was at a funeral a few weeks ago and 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.240 I was like, this is like a movie. This isn't real. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.600 I don't I don't even I'm even acting like I'm 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.359 supposed to act in a movie, like a so weird 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:07.080 from us by literally Paramount plus and you know, God 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.520 bless him. Uh. And the worst part of that is 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.839 when people don't have that knowledge of like I'm acting 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.000 like I'm in a movie, and they just do it 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.800 because they're like, this is how humans act. And it's like, no, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.719 you're being told to act this way. People don't my 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.440 Walt Disney, I know it's um, do you know what's 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.240 so great? I mean, God, I of course it's not 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.760 just media, it's also yes, advertising for instance, the idea 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.800 that give that having an engagement ring is in any 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.560 way an organic part of human life. Okay, you're going 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.320 you're going full Adam Ruins everything on it. I'm not 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.760 doing it. Well, maybe I'm doing Adam Ruins everything because 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.640 I saw it on TV. Maybe even my instinct to debunk, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.839 even my instinct to be a contrarian and debunk social 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.880 myths comes from wanting to be Adam Ruins everything that 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.119 is the darkest thing in the world that reminds that's like, um, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.800 when corporations like I feel like there's like a thirty 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.360 rock joke about like the company has the makes the 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.760 chips that gives you diarrhea and makes the toilet paper 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:16.400 that integration. Yes, that's almost like for a TV station 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.880 to make the TV show that's about getting married. That like, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.080 they also make the TV show that's making fun of 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.279 getting married, so they have it both ways. Wait, you 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.800 know what that is is that that Netflix has a 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.960 show with I think is it cot content Tricksie. It's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.960 like to drag queens and they literally make fun of 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.000 Netflix content. They can't have their cakes needed to know, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.200 It's like it really is. You kind of are like, well, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:46.040 maybe the solution is a is like burning it all 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:51.599 down thoughts. Yeah, but then like but the who and 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.440 then we wouldn't have the teen drama Elite, which I'm 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.400 currently enjoying on Netflix. That would be a disaster. Oh 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.320 I've never seen it, is my god? Am okay, I 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.000 know it's crazy. Literally, for the past four episodes, I 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.120 have made a note to myself, talk about Elite, talk 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.400 about Elie, talk about it late And then each time 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.440 we get into a tangent and I can never talk 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.400 about the fact that I have started Elite. What do 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:17.880 you want to say about it? I think basically, okay, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.680 I have not enjoyed a teen drama in so long 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.200 because they are never the right kind of bad for me, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.840 Like they make me feel bad instead of making instead 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.160 of being like a guilty pleasure, like I had that 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.760 experience with Gossip Girl, I had that experience with Like 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.040 like I kind of I stopped watching Riverdale, like you 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.160 just I haven't had the real pleasure of just like 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.400 a juicy teen drama. And for whatever reason, Elite really 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.840 is hitting the spot. It's like totally is different about it. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.360 I mean, maybe it's that they're speaking Spanish. I don't know, like, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.080 but there is I think it's just like it's the 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.440 right level of stupid where I don't ever want really 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.760 bash my head in the wall. But of course I'm 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.480 also not intellectually challenged, Like it's not it's not it's 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.120 not you know, prestige, but it's also not absolute trash. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.440 And I think what has happened over the past few 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.440 years is that the bar for middle brow has been 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.080 lowered and lowered and lowered, where there isn't anything that's 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.840 just down the middle anymore. How do you feel about that? No, 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.880 I think that makes sense. You're saying there's sort of 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.200 you're saying there's no middle class. Yeah, there's no middle 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.800 probless when it comes to streaming Content's like everything everything 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.000 is either terrible or upper middle class, which is a 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.400 bad prestige. Show. Yeah, that makes complete sense to me. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.439 I think you're right, and I honestly bet if there 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.920 was some sort of like I bet there are true 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.480 podcasts about this phenomenon that unpack it with facts. But 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.200 we don't wear ourselves down with things like statistics or facts. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.600 It's just about like our feelings exactly. The only thing 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.600 I can't be commodified by films and TV until it 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.640 is Um, should we bring in our guests? As my 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.600 actual question, I absolutely think we should because we have 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.719 been you know, we are often rude, cruel, um, not 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.559 thoughtful when it comes to our guests, but this one 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.160 in particular, we have just put through the absolute ringer. Um, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.000 I would sink. The fact that she is not at 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.800 this point bowled over in tears is a testament to 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:29.439 her you know, her thick skin, her years of emotional 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.080 strength training that she has been doing with a trainer. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.880 It is a testament to how the industry has beat 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:41.520 her down, but she has built herself back up. Yeah, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:51.040 and it is something that I yeah, so please welcome 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:58.480 um the most beat down person in Hollywood. Moe Frye passic. Okay, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:04.680 I'm sorry. I that I meant. I didn't mean it 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.840 didn't mean like the entertainment industry. I meant like I 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.440 met like the world. That's worse. Okay, it's worse. I 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:21.520 don't Okay, Mo, does you dig a damn hole? Wow? 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.080 That was amazing. I was genuinely trying to like be 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:31.200 kind for a moment. Just no, I love that, Mo. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.520 How did you feel about that? Oh my god, absolutely 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.480 torn to shreds. And what is that like? Disgusting? Um Like, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.600 there's that like that's disgusting, like um old idiom where 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:50.160 it's like road hard and hung up when Okay, In 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.800 my defense, I was trying to like, I'm literally only 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.120 referring to the fact that we made you wait essentially 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.840 at this point, forty minutes to record, and but maybe 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.200 you were a conduit of the universe of just you know, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:07.079 a commentary on like the industry. Yeah, yeah, that's like 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.480 when I see the industry literally mean me and Sam like, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.679 and when I say you thick skin, I'm not even 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.040 referring to anything else in your life. I'm literally referring 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.839 to the past forty minutes. Okay, can I say this? Okay, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.120 this is like a right I. I went to my 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.640 dermatologist and it was just asking him about wrinkles and 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.080 I was like, okay, like my my parents would really 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.200 have wrinkles, Like what's my situation with that? And he 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:34.160 was like, oh, you have really really thick skin. He 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.080 was like, and it's really oily. So he was like, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.320 so it's good because it resistant to wrinkles, but the 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.360 oil will help with that. And I was like, I 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.880 was like, thicking oily. Put it on my tombstone. And 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.400 he fucking he lost his mind. He lost his fucking mind. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.240 Cut it's funniest thing he's ever heard. But he also 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:54.360 forgot my name. So he goes. He starts loving, Oh 0:11:54.400 --> 0:12:00.720 my god, here lies because do you guys he looks 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:12.079 at thank you, Oh my god, here lies literal literal skin. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.480 There's definitely a little yeah. It's not just the lag. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.000 It's like, you keep freezing. I'm gonna come right out 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.640 and say it. Oh do I realize? Do I look pretty? 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.400 You look? You look gorgeous, actually more stunning than anyone 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.120 has ever looked. I think it's important to point out 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.920 you actually do look incredible? This is a podcast that 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.000 is an audio only podcast. We don't put out any 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.839 video content normally. Ever, it's also you're in l A 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:45.440 and wherever you are, and we is two pm, and 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.120 we look like absolute trash. Well, actually, George, what's incredible 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:54.120 today too? CRISP shirt? And I do have a Chrisp shirt? Yeah, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.440 it is because I were it last night and then 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.480 and then i'm and then and then I'm wearing it 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.200 again today. To wear a button down two days and 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.360 not have to be destroyed by wrinkles is an accomplishment. Yeah, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.480 it's true. Do you think your shirt is potentially thick 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:15.320 and oily? I mean it certainly is. I've been here 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:21.240 lies line. I also wanted to because I was so 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.640 I have a Twitter, but it's like I retweeted like 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.920 six things like three years ago, and like occasionally we'll 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.679 be like I'm want a bagel, Like that's what my 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.440 Twitter is. But there's two tweets I was looking through 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.280 because I only have like forty tweets, and there were 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.839 retweets of both of you, all of your tweets, all 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.720 your individual tweets, the one from George and I had 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.360 retweet it was I hope Nancy Pelosi wears a leather 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.559 choker at her Pride speech was such a vintage. I 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:56.319 probably tweeted that in not no and then say I 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:02.160 was say I was was like, is um, people are 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.480 going to get really it was about about COVID, and 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:05.920 it was like, people are going to get really mad 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.080 at me thinking about how mad people are gonna get 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.360 me if I tweet you think this lasted log Some 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:19.920 quidditch games lasted for months. Okay, wow, you know sometimes 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.280 it's like, hey, I wish I remembered anything like genius. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.600 It made it lasts so hard, And I was like, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.240 I have to sell the book because it was like 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.280 one of my forty tweets, we're retweets of those two. Damn. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.200 To have only forty tweets is like such a luxury. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.440 I know, it is, um we can't get We've We've 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.760 already talked so much about the pitfalls of social media 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.640 on this podcast that I don't want to be repetitive, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.120 but it is there is something about it where it's like, well, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.520 the more time you commit, the more difficult it is 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.800 to admit that it is worthless because to admit for 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.120 someone who has let's say forty thousand tweets. To then 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.200 admit that Twitter is a scourge on the earth is 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.840 to also admit that they have wasted literal years of 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:08.040 their life. Well yeah, but like as somebody who doesn't 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.200 have Twitter, really, I have the thoughts still. You know, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.800 my brain is occupied by toxic things elsewhere, so you know, no, 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.320 I guess that's true. That's true. That's true. I guess 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.760 it's nice to sort of have the evils so you 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.600 can place it very simply and be like, I'm I'm 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.160 feeling horrific because of this Renee Brown. You actually name 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.760 the feeling to, you know, like to actually identify it, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.080 feel it. Yeah, yeah, sort of the devil you know 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.720 is actually better. Um wait, MO, where do you stand 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.160 on that specific thought? I'm curious. Do you believe naming 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:49.160 things helps? Um? I so yes, it helps, But I 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.520 do not believe that you have to name something. I 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.800 think it goes. It's entirely western to say that, Like, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.960 because you look at yoga, you look at all these 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.640 like physical releases in the body that you aren't naming, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.960 but you're feeling through something. I think it negates any 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:08.840 sort of like um, bodily processing or like yeah, so 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.520 like yes, if I name something is going to happen. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.720 But there's like this new school that love like Instagram 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.280 psychologists that are like you have to name it to 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.560 feel it. I'm like, no, really. And also sometimes when 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.240 you're naming something, you're actually giving it more power and 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.480 you're saying like I have this, I am this or 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.680 X y Z, and it's like, well, or you're misnaming 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.200 it and then confusing your own self and processing. Yes exactly. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.080 I think maybe true emotional intelligence comes from knowing what 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.440 to name and what not to name. The flow, well, 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.200 the moderation, it's like that's what we're keep swinging. We 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.840 keep needing it to be one thing or the other, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.080 and it's like a dred percent where it's like just 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.480 being able to pick and choose what you need when 0:16:54.480 --> 0:17:00.080 you need. Okay, we're revolutionizing. I'm actually taking notes, but 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.120 it is it's like, okay, so when do you need 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.159 to just go cry and not know what you're crying about? 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.160 And when you need to discuss your own issues with abandonment, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:15.359 you know, it's like figure it out. Um No, I 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.159 love I love when you talk about these things for 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.240 the listeners. Mo has at times brought me to literal 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.119 tears talking about these topics, and I love the stuff 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.240 I can't And it's like, Okay, so you guys are 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.320 obviously long time friends. I don't know Mo that well. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.159 I think we've met in person like a couple of times, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.639 but I know you have the vibe of someone who 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.480 has a has a depth of knowledge. Okay, thank you 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:47.320 know I'm really smart. So yeah, it's like, here's what 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.840 I picture you if we were better friends. Like, here's 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.080 what I picture that looking like. It's like it's like 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.080 I say something that I think is kind of dumb 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.680 or maybe service level, and I'm like, you know, let's 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.719 say it's like I say, I mean that sounds kind 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.679 of stupid, and it's like, you know how humans are 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.880 kind of like flowers, and it sounds it sounds so dumb. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.560 You're it's like ever anyone else would immediately dismiss that, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.000 and then your response would be like right, So I 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.800 was thinking about that and then and then but you 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.040 have like a whole back story for something that I 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.119 only just thought of. Oh you're a hundred percent have 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.240 a read on me a p because I could get 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.080 into the parallels between you know obviously you know humans 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.440 and flowers when living and growth and seeds, you know 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.239 what I mean, Like, you would never be blindsided by 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.480 me saying humans are like flowers. You'd be like, yeah, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.159 well that's kind of something I that was huge for 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.960 me three years ago. And here's what I learned. Absolutely absolutely, no, Yeah, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.560 you have a very hard to read on me. I 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.160 a door talking about everything as if it's the most 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.240 important thing alive, because I do believe that it is. Yes, Well, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.440 it's also you have to when you are talking about 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.080 something for that moment, it is the most important thing, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:57.960 and it is actually doing a disservice to it to 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.680 not act like it's the most important thing. Very that 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:05.080 very that because then okay, while you're saying that, a 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.159 spam risk phone call came in and I'm like, oh no, 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:18.040 I'm not present, like and then I'm like, yeah, you're 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:22.800 so important. No, but I think it is, because it's like, well, 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.440 then what's the point because then if that's not true, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.520 then everything would annoy me, you know what I mean, Like, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.560 nothing has a point, then nothing is important. And you know, 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.480 at the same time we're talking about the moderation, Sure, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.880 nothing is important. Um in the way that it's life 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:42.959 and death, but like it's like this simple perspective of 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.320 like if I have nothing to do today, or I 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.040 have a full day of getting to do whatever I want. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.040 Like that sort of perspective shift can be in conversation 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.840 with an individual and how you look at it. That 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.639 being said, you know, I say, Sue, stupid ship that 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:03.720 nobody should take as important something I hoped to today, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:08.040 I really hope to. Yes, should we do our first segment? 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:14.160 I think, so these are funny? These are so funny. 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.840 That sounded so I know that you're being sincere, but 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.600 there is definitely a world in which you were making 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.119 fun of us right then. That felt so close to 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.479 being maybe because it's like you're you're like doing sensitive 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.080 because you've been making fun of me. So it's like 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.680 you're like, oh, we I will never live that down. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.480 To introduce a guest, that's literally the industry having beaten 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:38.480 them down. They are tired. This guess it really like 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.239 in the moment, it felt like a funny way to 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.439 talk about what had happened, but it really is so rude. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.679 That was so funny. Okay, well, yeah, I am being honest. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.520 I think these are really funny. They make a good goal, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:55.159 but go ahead. Um. So the first segment MO is 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.040 called straight Shooters, And in this segment we ask you 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.480 a series of rapid fire questions to gage your miiliarity 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.840 with and complicity in straight culture. And you have to 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:05.880 choose one thing or another thing. And the one rule 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:07.879 is you can't ask any follow up questions about how 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.560 the game works. Do you copy? Okay, Sam, take it away? 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.520 Okay Mo, a plant based diet or a man based, 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:26.719 riot based diet. Okay Mo. Working at the car wash 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:36.000 or working at the dick second factory. Okay, Slow and 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.480 steady wins the race or early bird gets the worm. 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:43.200 Early gets the worm. Viva la France or I booped 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:55.040 my pants, Hitch, that's so funny. This one's part of 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.920 an ongoing theme I'm working through right now. Um Alien 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:05.960 versus Predator, Freddie versus Jason or kill v mame? Um? Okay, 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.560 updating your iOS or updating your records because there's a 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.840 new bitch in town. Updating records because there's a new 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:26.639 bidget town. Okay. Ponzi schemes or Phonsie's gene. It was okay, 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:31.600 Fonzie's Jean's Um, here's the t I don't have a 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.879 final one. Is everyone mad at me? No, George, I 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.280 could never be less mad at you because the ones 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.160 that you provided were so good. I was literally gonna 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.000 end this and be like you seemed like possessed by 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:48.639 like some sort of like bitching. Yeah I had. I 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.000 really was in the middle of writing the last one 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:54.600 and it was Crisscross Apple sauce or and I was like, Okay, 0:22:54.640 --> 0:23:01.320 what rhymes? What could be or do that? Wow? I'm 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.600 so happy that um working at the car washer, working 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.040 at the Dick second factory got such a big response. Okay, 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.840 I've got one for Okay, okay, criss Cross Apple sauce 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:19.119 or Elizabeth Moss salad toss. That's really good. Yeah, or 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:26.240 okay criss Cross apple sauce. So for Elizabeth Moss, I 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.960 guess is the only loss? That's the only option, yeah, 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:34.840 for sure? Or or Star Jones weight loss. Oh, okay, 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.560 Criss Cross apples loss or Star Jones weight loss. That's 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.119 really good. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's and so if 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.000 I had asked you that, what would you have picked? Um, 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:51.679 Chris Cross apples on that's the only answer. Correct. Yeah, Um, damn, wow, 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.879 I see that was fun that You're right, that was 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.400 fun and it's hard you know sometimes when we've done 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.840 this pod now for a little while, and sometimes these 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.360 straight shooters can like you know, just sort of roll 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:12.119 off the top and it's like, yeah, they become a job. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.639 Yeah another day and the dick second factor and you 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.720 told us, hey, don't forget that what you have is 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.560 special and enjoy it and have a little fun with it. 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.800 It's a little he he you know what I mean, Like, 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:30.360 it's a little well, it's breaking comedy down to its basics, 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.840 which is just this is a series of words that 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.360 are in a random order. It's the laying comedy. Bear, naked, 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.439 just vulnerable. That is kind of the goal. Not to 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.480 peek behind the curtain too much, but sorry, somebody's in 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:55.119 here and guess what they're naked? Do you want a 0:24:55.160 --> 0:25:07.240