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Speaker 1: You're listening to Stradio Lab, the only podcast in which

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Speaker 1: two days unpacked straight culture but also not really um

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Speaker 1: man to think that you're saying happy Tuesday? Really, oh

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Speaker 1: my god? You know what's about to happen? Is your

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Speaker 1: sister really walking literally about to walk it? Okay? For

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Speaker 1: the listeners at home, George said, Okay, we're gonna start,

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Speaker 1: and you know what's gonna happen As soon as we start,

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Speaker 1: My sister is gonna walk in the door because she's visiting,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to stop. And so what's happening

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Speaker 1: I think it's so funny too that your sister walks

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Speaker 1: So I mean at this point, what there's no way

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Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have the teen drama Elite, which I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking truth to power and then it's like, by

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Speaker 1: the way, do it have do a fifteen page packet

424
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: for free? You can't have both. You can't have both,

425
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: And it tries me absolutely bonkers that they try to.

426
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: That was just such a moment, like for someone at

427
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: this stage in my beautiful and stunning life. To ask

428
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: me to write an episode of television that no, that

429
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: will never get that will never air, absolutely not. How

430
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: can I say to ask me to write it in

431
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: format like for your teleprompter as well, like it's like

432
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: no one's looking at them, put it in red, and

433
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: then put it in like all caps. And then I

434
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, Like from a logistical aspect,

435
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: this is taking hours, Like what you're not going to

436
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: use this? Agree? It's I don't think so, honey, right, yeah,

437
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean essentially talk about being beaten down my an industry.

438
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: That was me doing the packet for Admirins every day. Yeah,

439
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: that is a rough one. Well, should we introduce the topic?

440
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I actually think we kind of should because it's a

441
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: rich topic. It's a rich part in the pun. Okayone's

442
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: in here, that's my catchphrase. Now. Um, so you actually

443
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: came with a wide array of gorgeous topics that we

444
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: actually did have trouble choosing one. Um, not a single

445
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: one was bad. I actually would actually could you read

446
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: them and we'll say and then leave the final one

447
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: for the end, and we'll go, okay, let me see

448
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: and let me see. Okay, Okay, so okay. The first

449
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: one was bringing gifts home from vacation, which I was

450
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: told is also souvenirs. I forgot the word for that, Okay,

451
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: being shocked by connection, which is like, oh my god,

452
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: like they have so many things in common, Like I

453
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: love that's so it's just your description of it, because

454
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what does it mean to be shocked

455
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: by connection? But it's You're absolutely right. It's like not

456
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: just being struck by connection, but thinking anything is a

457
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: huge coincidence. It's like people in the world, like we

458
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: both have black jeans. Like it's also things like it's

459
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: like you grew up with a golden retriever too, and

460
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, every like okay, it's like that's crazy.

461
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh a better way to do things? Like someone just

462
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: always being like there just has to be a better way.

463
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: So I made mud coffee, you know what I mean?

464
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: So I made mud off and so okay, Um, what

465
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: was the other one? Oh, big books, which you guys

466
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: have touched on previously, But I like reading Infinite Jest

467
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: or like Ulysses or Dune or like Atlas Shrugged, and

468
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: came with a list of books that she wanted to

469
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like. It's also kind of the idea

470
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: that by virtue of being bigger a book is better

471
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: also like by virtue of reading it like analog style,

472
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: like you know, like not digital, if you will like

473
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: reading it and reading it just in your hand on

474
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: the subway, and talk about performative. You know what I mean?

475
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: It's so inconvenient. Can I be honest? I believe that

476
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: reading is performative. Okay, it's so funny. You should have

477
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: caught me like a month ago, my anti intellectual streak

478
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: just ended. Yes, and now that Sam is in a

479
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: reading era. Look, I literally look look at this. Oh

480
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: my god, you're finally doing didiot ring the didion alarm

481
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: and ring the an alarm. Sam just picked up and

482
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: showed on camera his coffee was slipping towards Bethlehem. Honey,

483
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: you just missed her. Someone's in here and it's not John.

484
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, it's always gonna be funny. Wait, Mo,

485
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: you're so right that. Well, here's the thing with reading,

486
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: just like we were talking about before, where you say

487
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: I love you or you get married, and it's like

488
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: you're doing something you've seen in a movie. Here's what's crazy.

489
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: At this point if I'm having coffee and reading a book.

490
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's like an Instagram. I'm like, oh

491
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: my god, people are going to be so annoyed with me,

492
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm like, this is annoying. Yeah.

493
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I was reading a magazine on the subway and I

494
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, well, everyone's looking at me and they're like,

495
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: who the fund? Does he? Kids? I mean that is

496
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the nineties are back. Damn. Reading a magazine

497
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: on the subway. Incredible. Okay, yeah, I was reading the

498
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: you Ronan Pharaoh investigation into state surveillance. That's right, look

499
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: at him. Let me tell you something. That guy could

500
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: you as an editor dragon. I love that he did

501
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: great at what he does. You don't need to have

502
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: like a full paragraph now, don't need to have a

503
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: full paragraph talking about like the different video games that

504
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: people at the tech company you're visiting, we're playing to

505
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: paint the picture? Sure? Sure is this your I don't

506
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: think so, honey. You know, actually I do think I

507
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: could do, and I don't think so. Behindy for Ronan Pharaoh. Okay,

508
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: put in the back pocket. Uh wow, it's so funny

509
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: to be so referential to our friends podcast. It's like

510
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: it's like one of the weirder things of this life. Yeah,

511
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: but I feel like you guys have already done the crossover,

512
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: so like your audience knows, you know what I mean.

513
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: We gotta put them, we gotta put them on the map.

514
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: They are kind of an offshoot of Yes, yeah, it's

515
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: the Stree universe and they're living in it. Um. Yeah,

516
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: they're like the Roda in like the Marri each other

517
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: more so to situation. Right, So mo, what is the

518
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: final topic that we did set along? Okay, here's like

519
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: the audio cube of like cabaret where money, money, money,

520
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: we decide on money money like cash, cards, points, money, Yeah,

521
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: all all money and all representations of money, every iteration

522
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: of money like money. Money is a concept having money,

523
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: spending money, getting different types of money with money, buying

524
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: money with money, money, money, So what I'm like, where

525
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: do we even start? This is a hard one actually, Well,

526
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: like what like you think of money? What is it

527
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: about money? Okay? What is youright about? It's like very

528
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: like ownership based, you know what I mean. It's feel

529
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: like um, mind, mind, mind, and it's very um It's

530
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: not community based, not community based in any way, shape

531
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: or form. It's very um individualistic and money as a concept,

532
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: and it's also like very um dumb, Like I think

533
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: money is very stupid, you know what I mean, Like

534
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: like being like I made this many deep boots and

535
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: I have it in my big tank. It's like, okay,

536
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It does seem like that. Yeah,

537
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Like like wait, so everyone has like literally a number

538
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: and it represents how much literally power they have. Literally

539
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: it feels like you're explained to a little kid a

540
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: game and they're like okay, and it's just like and

541
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: you're a big strong person if you get this, and

542
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like okay. I think it's so straight to me

543
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: to have to like lie to yourselves that you've been

544
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: have money, because some money is fake. The more I

545
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: learned about money, some of it doesn't even exist and

546
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: have it like stock market I guess I don't know,

547
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: And like it's like you're playing pretend to feel good

548
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: about yourself. That's very straight. Yes, yeah, it's also like

549
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: some of it being fake. Like that's also like people

550
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: are like, well, bitcoin is not real, and I'm like

551
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: neither is a dollar, Like what are you talking about?

552
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm like all of this is fake. This is so weird.

553
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: It's so weird. Also, okay, you know when there's God,

554
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna sound so stupid. You know, when

555
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: there's like inflation and you're like, but hold on, just

556
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: fix it. Don't even get me started, Like why do

557
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: you do that inflation? People talking about like I do

558
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: not think so honey, inflation that people talk about inflation

559
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: as though it's like a natural disaster, and it's like

560
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: it's storms are common, like unstoppable. Yeah, just print more

561
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: money or less money and then fix it. And then

562
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: they have this whole like forty five minutes speech and

563
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: you say, print more money. They're like, we can't, and

564
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: then they do when they want to, or the idea

565
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: that like different currencies. They're like, it's crazy to me.

566
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: They're like, you can't use your money in this country

567
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: because we have prettier money, you know what I mean.

568
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm like what, oh my god. And they're like, but

569
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: it does, but you can exchange it. I'm like, okay,

570
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: if I can exchange it, why can't I just use it? Yes?

571
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Thank you do the math for me. That's crazy. Just

572
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: make it work. Why is it different? Here's a question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

573
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: we got you. Yeah, this, I can't wait for this.

574
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm bloodthirsty right now, like rabbit truly. Something that is

575
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: so insane to me. Take CNN plus or quimby. Okay,

576
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: like a big time failure, right, something like that fails.

577
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: You read something that's like they lost fifty billion dollars.

578
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Riddle me this, How come no one became poor because

579
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: of that? Like where so so is Mike job? Riddle

580
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: me this, like so so they lost fifty billion dollars

581
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: and yet somehow the people that failed are now richer. Okay,

582
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: here's my thing, because there's all these things with investors

583
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: where they put play money wherever they want. There's someone

584
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: listening to this right that like it's chopping at the

585
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: bit to describe what we're like, it is to give

586
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: us answers. And when I'm saying, your answer is stupid,

587
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: like I cannot. Yes. First of all, I know we

588
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: all are smart enough to understand how the stock market works.

589
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I understand how investing works. I understand that you like

590
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: put don't go that far exists. I know it's not magic,

591
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: but beyond that, it's you know, I think my goal,

592
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: one of my goals in life is to never understand

593
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: any of this stuff, which is not a good goal.

594
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, but actually it is a good goal because

595
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: it means you basically want people to work for you

596
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: that understand it for you. Because it's also going to

597
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: come back around where it's gonna be humiliating that people

598
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: spent their lives doing this, you know what I mean? Well,

599
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: one can only hope and run, so I guess to

600
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: bring it back down to earth a little bit. So,

601
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: first of all, the idea of like anyone having a

602
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: monetary value crazy. Then you add the layer of artifice

603
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: on top of that where no money is where when

604
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: it when it actually counts, the money isn't even real, yes,

605
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you're making everyone play

606
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: a video game where you have to like have fifteen

607
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: credit cards that you have a good credit score, and

608
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: then based on the credit score, you can buy an apartment,

609
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: and then you can you spend money so you can

610
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: get miles and then fly and then like, so what

611
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: is the end game? Don't even get me stared about

612
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: like miles. Like my mom the other day was like,

613
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: well I have two thousand dollars in points. I was like, okay,

614
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Like is that interest? Like you made money. She's just

615
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: like no, like it's just like this card, you get

616
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: really good points, you can turn them in for cash.

617
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like okay, like what and again I get it,

618
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I understand and anyone listening he was like damning me

619
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: about like you know, fucking banks and bigness. No, I

620
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: give it, but what do you know what I mean? Yeah,

621
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: it's sort of like can we just not like it's

622
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: sort of like let's just stop, like, can we all?

623
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: It's almost it's well, one, it's fear based, Okay, absolutely,

624
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: we're not in an abundant dot paradigm. Thank you. Everyone's

625
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: got their walls up. Everyone's like trying to be like, well, no,

626
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: you have to like if you subscribe to me, then

627
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: you'll get the points, so then you'll get a deal.

628
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: And it's like, can everyone just lower their guns a bit?

629
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: Can we just be a little more community oriented? And

630
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and I'm like I just don't just

631
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: just I don't need like this brand loyalty. Just provide

632
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: a service and I'll pay for it a reasonable amount.

633
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: When someone is like when okay, I was recently, in

634
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: fact having this argument with my significant other. He is

635
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: someone who is very who is really good at this

636
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: stuff and is like a gold star Mild member at

637
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Delta and like all and like knows exactly what to

638
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: do in order to get the right amount of points,

639
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: and like his life is one big game where he's

640
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like trading points left and right in order to save

641
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: money on on each individual thing, and and and then

642
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: I was saying, my kind of outlook on all of

643
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: this is like I'm kind of like it all evens out,

644
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: Like the effort you put into this equals the reward

645
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: you're going to get. So why not not put the effort,

646
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: not get the reward. You're right back where you started.

647
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: And then my second point is the idea that as

648
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: an adult, you say the word points and it means

649
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: something is humiliating. Points is something you get in a

650
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: game when you're a kid. You can't be like, I

651
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: got twenty points. It's embarrassing, it's humiliar. It's so bizarre

652
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: because then I'm like, and also it's like what a

653
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: fucking fool we are to like go to the grocery

654
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: store and like pay and be like I'm doing something

655
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: good for himself. Got my points back or like or

656
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: nothing to me is more absolutely horrific. Then when somebody

657
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: puts their card down for a group dinner and just

658
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: just spend on me, I get points. Oh my, oh

659
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: my god, Mo, you brought up one of the darkest

660
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: things in our current day society. That is like, that

661
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: is so rude. Okay? Can I also say it's an aside,

662
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: this is I'm not even allowing that to blossom. But

663
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm pleased the first time, and I believe I don't

664
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: know if you remember the Sam. The first time anyone

665
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: ever used Venmo around me, it was with do you

666
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: remember when I'm talking about keep going? So it was

667
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: like maybe and me, me and Sam got high out

668
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: of our minds, sorry exposed, I've never never and Joel

669
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: can Booster was like hey remember yeah. I was like, hey,

670
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: do you want to get dinner? So Sam what I have?

671
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: Very high? And we're like yeah. So we went to

672
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Colexico and we were like, wow, Colexico, let that sinking?

673
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Do they still live? They do? I used to live

674
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: by the park slope, but I would say surprisingly like

675
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: great breakfast, Braado, great breakfast anyway, sorry, like sort of

676
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: like an evening dawnt for us. Um, So we go

677
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: and like we are like waiting to pay, and then

678
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: Joel was like I paid already. I mean, say, were

679
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: like we need to pay to and Joel's Joel's like

680
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: just Ben Momi and bol Sam and I were like what,

681
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: Like no had ever so swiftly and economically just dealt

682
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: with the situation and like we knew what EMMA was.

683
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: We knew, but like we had never used it in

684
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: that capacity. It was just like so clean, so so

685
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it was because we were high,

686
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: but I just it's burned in my brain as one

687
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: of those magnificent experiences I've ever had. I mean, that

688
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: dinner I actually remember so vividly because we were so

689
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: high and like at that point, I was not used

690
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: to being high in this and it was very jarring,

691
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: and I was like I kept like I feel like

692
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I maybe didn't say any words, Like I remember like

693
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: almost getting through that dinner rather than like enjoying that dinner,

694
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: because I was like, I remember like looking at people's

695
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: faces and be like, is that Chris Pratt? Is that

696
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt Calexico? And I remember even being like I

697
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: think that's Chris Pratt, like and Joel was like, what

698
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And I was like, no, seriously,

699
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: remember this part. I was having like hardcore facial blindness.

700
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: I was seeing like so many people in other people Pratt,

701
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of like when I thought I saw

702
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Robin at an eyehop. I love that you might have.

703
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I actually think, well, okay, this is something that has

704
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: never been fully answered for me. So basically, um, this

705
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: was actually no. This was timely because I was at Coachella.

706
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: It was like ten years ago, and then we went

707
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: to an eyehop. After we were all like, you know,

708
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: strung out, we went on IHAP so and at that

709
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: stage it's like, it's actually not impossible that Robin would

710
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: have been at the IHOP close to Coachella. But it's

711
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: unclear how much each person was joking when they said

712
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: they saw Robin. And to this day, I don't know

713
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: if I was at the same IAHAP as Robin. Robin,

714
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: if you are listening, please call in. Hey girl, Okay,

715
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: so we yeah, someone's in here at Robin at the

716
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I Hop bathroom. You know, George, I actually hope you

717
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: never find out, and I hope that you just get

718
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: to live life with the magic of thinking you were

719
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: in the same Robin. My ex once was at the

720
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: same restaurant as Beyonce and jay Z, and that was

721
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: I will never forgive myself for not being there. He

722
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: was like with his high school friends. I could not

723
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: tell you. I think I think it was in I

724
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was in New York, l A.

725
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: But okay, I understand that, like, yes, you know, you

726
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: things people ever or whatever. But the idea of being

727
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: in a restaurant with Beyonce and jay Z, that's crazy. Yeah,

728
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: that's that's up there. That's crazy. The thing that funds

729
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: me up is that Beyonce would do soule cycle a lot,

730
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: and like at a public class, not even a yeah yeah,

731
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: she would enter. She would go to the Williams for one,

732
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: and she would enter late. And I've never been there

733
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: when she was my friend as a manager, and like

734
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: he'd have to like guide her into like her special

735
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: bike that was already set up, and I'm like, oh, like,

736
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I guess you want workout community. Like so wait, I

737
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: have many questions, obviously, starting with doesn't she live in Tribeca? Okay,

738
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: out George, George knows where you live, and he insist

739
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: with it, and he's policing, which soulecycle. You go to

740
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: George maybe the studio. She records that as in Williamsburg,

741
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: so she post session which is constantly recording. Yeah, so

742
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: that was that early days of soul cycle. We're talking. Yeah,

743
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: we're talking the Colexico era, if you will, the classically

744
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: the Calexico era. But that's fascinating to me. The Beyonce

745
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: timeline is pre self titled and post self titled, because

746
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: pre self titled, she exists, she like had some humanity,

747
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: and post self titled, she was like, I am a

748
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: goddess and I know, and I don't speak to the media.

749
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't speak period. Yeah not no, I'm kind of

750
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: like I can't wait for that era for myself. So

751
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like, I'm gonna like scrub like this podcast

752
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: literally file a defamation lawsuit because I said that the

753
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: industry town. Yeah, I'm almost oscar. I'm looking for like

754
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: a Gawker style, like you get a Peter teel Backer

755
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: to destroy us. Yeah, and the beck is Beyonce herself.

756
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: I have a question, wasn't it like Hulk Cogan, Yeah,

757
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: whole Cogan and Peter Tail, Yeah, whole Cogan and brought

758
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: them down. But they're back and better than ever. That's

759
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: a favorite dream. That's a fevere dream if you're like

760
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: you're describing people like first of all, like Peter Teal, Okay,

761
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: that sounds made up, talk about talk about money, talk

762
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: about money, talk about money. Ultimately okay, and actually okay,

763
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: this actually brings up something I want to sort of

764
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: ask about, like what are the queer ways to use money?

765
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: And one I do think is potentially sinking it all

766
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: into a lawsuit to attack someone who is I just

767
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: had the instinct to very earnestly be like donating do

768
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: you mean to the community giving? Um? No, But I

769
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: see what you're saying, Sam, It's like, yeah, it's kind

770
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: of like using money for self basically wasting money. Wasting

771
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: money is in a sense a queer coded action. I

772
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: mean trips. I do think trips are queer coded way

773
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: to spend money. Restaurants, Yeah, spending money on leisure because

774
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: you're yes, you're taking something as serious as money and

775
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: you're radicalizing it taking something as serious money. Yeah, every

776
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: time I take a trip to Palm Springs, that's activism,

777
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: is political. You're radicalized. I'm radicalizing my income by taking

778
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: the from it. You're taking the powerway from it because

779
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: it's like, well, look look at me. I'm not using

780
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: this money for online banking. I'm not writing a check

781
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: using my money to pay for my online banking. I

782
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: am not I'm going to serendipity and getting a liquid

783
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: gold Sunday. Absolutely, I am simply putting it in the

784
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: stock market. I'm putting it into apps for tonight. Now

785
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I invest in apps. It Tiser's yes, Wow, you got there.

786
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: That is like, that is a genius joke. That is

787
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: so anti comedy. I love that. Yeah, it's sort of

788
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: like a writer's room. And then I'm like, Okay, is

789
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: showing off your money or being secretive about your money

790
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: more straight? That's tough. That's tough, like being tasteful. I

791
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: think it's like showing it off but saying you're not

792
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Like it's about having like a BMW and then being like,

793
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: but I'm middle class and here's what it is. It's

794
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: saying we have a little place on the lake and

795
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: it's a mansion, yeah, and saying we're comfortable. Yeah. It's

796
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: very straight. So I feel like new money is queer

797
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: old on you straight a hundred percent to not agree

798
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: more that's me because you know, like it's queer. People

799
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to have a lot of money. Sure, yeah,

800
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: well somewhere like Peter Teo. Yeah. Well, at the same time,

801
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: there is an argument be made for old money being

802
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: queer because it's like there's it's so um insular and

803
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: like and like almost specific community. Yes, yes, I was

804
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: the house of Yes of its time, Like they said,

805
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: we want to make a little house of guests in here. Yeah,

806
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean watch Marie Antoinette and tell me those are

807
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: that's not queer? Uh what's it called? Chosen family? Big

808
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: chosen family vibes absolutely gender fuck yes, gender. I would

809
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: love it if there was a scene in Marie Antoinette

810
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: where she walks in and then someone goes, okay, she's

811
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: giving Marie Antoinette. It's like that that sketch that everyone

812
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: lost their fucking mind for in like two thousand nine

813
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: from Second City. That was like if Ophelia had a

814
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: gay best land. Oh my god, that was about so

815
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: big a gay friend it was. It was it called

816
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: that because it was like, don't kill yourself for all

817
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: and then he always starts with what what what are

818
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: you doing? You remember that? I remember I remember his

819
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: scar probably kept be like yes, yeah, God, I really

820
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: hope he's doing well. He really kind of sacrifice breaking

821
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: a mold that was. Yeah, it's taking taking control of

822
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: the narrative. Do you know what bothers me is people

823
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: looking back on you know, let's say, problematic gay representation

824
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: and judging it. And it's like we were fighting for

825
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: our lives, Like do you have no right to judge

826
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: Jack on Will and Grace? Also, he's literally it is

827
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: a tour to force and then we're using it as

828
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: an example of like poor media representation, it's like, and

829
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: then also putting the onus of representation on the individual

830
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: portraying that character. And I'm like that, what are you doing?

831
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: Like is good representation? Acting straight? Right? Like good representation?

832
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Literally And it's so like I get in like the broader,

833
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: nuanced conversation. You can talk about wishing there was more

834
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: variety of representation, but people in doing so tend to

835
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: take down that which was there totally. I completely agree.

836
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Or when people are like they were like, gay people

837
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: are often used this comic relief and it's like, is

838
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: there anything more important? Sorry, we're being funny. Funny. Gay

839
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: people are funny. Yeah, they're funny. What do you mean, Like, so,

840
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So you don't want gay people to die

841
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: tragically because that's problematic. You don't want gave people to

842
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: be comic relief. What do you want them to be?

843
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: Like the front desk person. I want them to be

844
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: unfunny bitch who's in one scene the biggest size. Well,

845
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: I was literally like, I was like, Wow, where do

846
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: I even go from here? Money? Do you have anything

847
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: more to say about money? Is my question? Oh Sam,

848
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: you're acting as though that hasn't been our top at all,

849
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Like money, Well, I just want to say, I feel like,

850
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: have you guys met someone who from like an early

851
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: age wanted to like work in banking? Right? Yes, many people,

852
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: And that is like one of the saddest things I've

853
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life. One time, my he

854
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: was like my little brother's friend when he was like

855
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen. He was like, I want to go

856
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: into like investing, And I was like, okay, but what

857
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: do you want to do? Like what what about that

858
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: brings you joy? And he was like, well, I want

859
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: to make a lot of money. And I was like

860
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: but what, like for what? And he's like, because I

861
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: know that money is like power. And I said, but

862
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: why do you want power? And he's like, well, I

863
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: just want it like I want to. You're like Socrates,

864
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: You're breaking him down. You're like power. You know. He's like,

865
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: why I want powering? You're like, yeah, but philosophically speaking,

866
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: what is that? Well, it was like and he like

867
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: followed through. I think he's an investment banker now and

868
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: he's proud of him, so huge shout out. But it's

869
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: just like, I actually, I just cannot relate to that

870
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: mindset at all, and it bums me out and I

871
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: don't know how to process it even listen. I think

872
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm like almost I could even say jealous of it,

873
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: because there's not you know, there's not any part of

874
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: me that is ever even considered money. Like like when

875
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: I was like in high school, like thinking about my dreams,

876
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: in no way was I like, I mean, you know,

877
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: maybe it is good that because that I got into

878
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: the industry has treated me so I hortantly somebody would

879
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: told me it's gonna treat me with this. I've never

880
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: gotten into. I would have been a banker by now.

881
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: I would have worked for Golden sacks, but like I

882
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: didn't even know, like banking was an option, Like that's

883
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, people do that, Like what that

884
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: sounds horrible. I don't know. I just contributed nothing. I

885
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: just think, No, no, I know it was no. No,

886
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm curious, George, you'll have an insight. No, my only

887
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: insight is there was something clarifying about that outlook that

888
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: I here's the thing. If your goal is to make money,

889
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: that's actually a more direct goal than if your goal

890
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: is to make the world a better place. Let's say,

891
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: like there are so many Let's say you're like you're

892
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: just a really earnest, sweet person who has a kind

893
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: heart and wants to do good. But that's your only goal.

894
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: You don't have a passion for something specific. You don't

895
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: you're you're not um, you don't have a specific skill.

896
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: You're just kind of like I want to like be

897
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: a force of good in the world. Then I'm sorry,

898
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: but what's gonna happen is you're gonna find yourself at

899
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: some like you know, uh, mid tier nonprofit where you

900
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: are like when where you are basically spending your day

901
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: like doing paperwork or answering phone calls or writing grant proposals,

902
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: and it's never You're never going to have the satisfaction

903
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: being like and I did it. I changed the world.

904
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: Whereas if your goal is to make money and that

905
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: is the one thing driving you, of course you need

906
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: a certain level of you know, privilege and luck and

907
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: whatever else. But like, if all goes well, there will

908
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: be a point where you have achieved your goal. I

909
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: was beautiful, Yeah, I mean that was kind of a

910
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: if you can't beat them, join them. I'm not endorsing it,

911
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm that's just the appeal of it. Like of course,

912
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: like it's just yeah. And and as you pursue money,

913
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: you also further put on horse blinders and don't see

914
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: the ills of the world, and that is probably a

915
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: good self defense mechanism, whereas if you're working at the nonprofit,

916
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: you're constantly being exposed to the ills of the world

917
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: and you only feel worse. Not no, I mean we

918
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: are you know now, sort of making it a heroic

919
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: pursuit to want money. It's still it's like, I'm just

920
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: it's simple. I think the fact that it's simple means

921
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: it's less like it's like it's for a more simple

922
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: minded per whereas whereas the alternative you really have to

923
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: think about the world more deeply and your place in

924
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: it and whatever. Agree Because there was this I was

925
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: listening to a straight man's podcast and he was talking

926
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: a little for right to what it's like, um, so

927
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: he was talking about his brother and his brother he

928
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't described his very left. He was like, my brother

929
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: has this very strong belief that billionaires shouldn't exist. He

930
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, I totally understand that prospective.

931
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: He was like, but I don't know if I agree

932
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: with that, And he went on to describe He was

933
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: like like this, like there's so much it was so simple.

934
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: He was like, like, think of Amazon. He was like,

935
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure that saved a lot of lives during the pandemic,

936
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: like people being able to order stuff, and like like

937
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: it was a simple Yeah, this is exactly what I'm

938
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: talking about. But that's what it is. It's like, yes,

939
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: if you are simple. It really is just the difference

940
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: between being simple minded and being simple minded so much.

941
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: It was like I was listening to my mom was

942
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: a gape. I was just like, you know, because I'm

943
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: like he I'm sure he's one of millions with that

944
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: perspective and like, there's it's it's not a wrong perspective.

945
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: It is just the most black and white, simplistic encumbered

946
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: by details factor morality, you know what I mean? Wow,

947
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 1: that is and it's a definition of horse blinders. Because

948
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: to him, it's like his world is Amazon consumers, and

949
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: he's like, well, yes, for Amazon consumers, it certainly is

950
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: making their life easier that they can order things online,

951
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Like he is completely shutting himself out to anyone else

952
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: that exists in this ecosystem exactly. But here's the thing.

953
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: When that is your world, then it is easy to

954
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: be like, well why not client, Like yeah, why not

955
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: go from being a consumer to being a ceo? See

956
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: that's why money is straight, Yeah, because it requires ignorance. Well,

957
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: it requires ignorance. It requires also like believing the status

958
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: quo to be correct exactly exactly that and just being like,

959
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: well nothing needs changing, like I will, I will do

960
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: what is expected of me, and like, well, if I

961
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: have money in my pocket, I can make change and

962
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 1: I trust my moral compass and you know, desires, so

963
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, And if people just worked harder, they

964
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: can have money too. I don't understand why, Well, why

965
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: don't you ask your dad? Oh god, well, I hate

966
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: money more than anything on earth. I hate that I

967
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: have to know what it is. I hate that I

968
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: have to do taxes. I hate investments, I hate houses. Taxes.

969
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: This year, I don't know why I filed them on time.

970
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Like everything's fine, but there is a certain stress that

971
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: they caused me. It's like having It's like when you

972
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: have nightmares about like not having studied for the final

973
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: or something. I still, like, it's now a week or

974
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: two after taxes, and I still sometimes like stop in

975
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: the middle of something and I'm like, oh my god,

976
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: did I found my taxes? Yes? I did. Like somehow

977
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: it has had this like real visceral effect on me

978
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, it's fucking crazy. It's I keep

979
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: my tax recurage from like every year because I'm like

980
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: scared that someone's going to come and ask for Like

981
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: it's like because I think all of us are individuals

982
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: who don't do not you know, entirely trust the government

983
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: and so like to have to do something and then

984
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: under threat of you know, financial or physical punishment, it's

985
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,479
Speaker 1: like it's just weird and uncomfortable. And yeah, we'll also

986
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: like to make it so it's like you have to

987
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: be like partially a criminal. Like there's no way to

988
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: do your taxes correctly. You just have to be guessing

989
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: sometimes and like making decisions and making choices. And it's like, wait, what,

990
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: why why do I have to be partially a criminal?

991
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: This is the false promise of my need to It's

992
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: like it presents itself as this simple thing like, oh,

993
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: it's arithmetic. I have two dollars, and I get four dollars.

994
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: Now I have six dollars, But it's not. It's all

995
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind all these unwritten rules

996
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: about what little little kinds of cheating you're allowed to do,

997
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: and then you're just setting yourself up for failure. Like

998
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind it if it was not to be

999
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: like literally che Gavar, you got like money from the

1000
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: government every month and then and then it was a

1001
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: level playing field everyone could kind of budget fine. But

1002
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: now I have to read a whole book. To me though,

1003
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: that is like a little bit queer to be, Like

1004
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: if you have six dollars, but did you make it

1005
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday on an odd year? But you know

1006
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's like it's very like to

1007
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: get a little fun and like that, do you live

1008
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: in Yonkers? Very? Do you live in Younger? Thing? When

1009
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: you do your tax in New York City? For anyone

1010
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: who doesn't know, um, it's it truly comes at such

1011
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: a random point where you've like you've hit next like

1012
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: fifteen times, You're like at the second class page, and

1013
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's like, wait a minute, by the way,

1014
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: do you live in Yonkers? Because different? Because in Yonkers

1015
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: we do things a little bit different. Yes, I cannot

1016
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: stand it. I cannot stand it. Okay, I'm sorry. But

1017
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: the idea that I am in charge of my own

1018
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: retirement and I have to start planning for it now,

1019
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: are you? It's like getting me absurd. Okay, my upstairs

1020
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: nabor is I told him that I was recording podcast

1021
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: still three it is three or four and he has

1022
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: started on the damn dot What is he doing? Loves

1023
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: playing guitar? Oh when he plays loud, baby, he's like

1024
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: his own songs or like not even songs. That's the

1025
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: worst part to even to even for your mind to

1026
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: go into two songs. How pure you must be. It's

1027
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: just sort of um thrashing you just like kind of

1028
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: goes for it. You know what comes to my mind,

1029
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: is um just an affair or on affairs, just going forgiveness.

1030
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: It's more than saying sorry, I'm so glad. Sure that

1031
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: is such an undersung honestly, film all around, not even

1032
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: just your character. Her performance in that though, is like

1033
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: should have won? And yeah no, absolutely unreal. Um should

1034
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: we do our final segment? Yes, daddy, okay? Our finals?

1035
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Like me? This called shout outs, and then we give

1036
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: a shout out to something that we are enjoying in

1037
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: the style of you know and a classic homage to

1038
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: straight culture. It's two one year at Times Square. It's

1039
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: t RL. You're shouting out to your squad back home,

1040
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: just not anything that you enjoy. Um, George, do you

1041
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: have one? Yeah, I'll do. I'm gonna do a money

1042
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: themed one in fact, great love that. Um, what's up

1043
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: listeners of our podcast? I want to give a quick

1044
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: shout out to writing a check. I recently had to

1045
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: write a physical check using a blue ballpoint pen and

1046
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: signing it with my delicious signature, and it was the

1047
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: first time in a while I had done that. And

1048
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: let me just say, it is nostalgia, It is mad men.

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Speaker 1: It is cosplay. It is drag. I have never felt

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: so powerful in my life. The check was for that's

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: right on fifty dollars and um and I there was

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01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: something that is so simple about it, and and and

1053
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: and kind of hearkens back to a simpler time. You're saying,

1054
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: this isn't late capitalism, this is early capitalism. Take me back.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, hold on, I'm thinking. I'm thinking.

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, sure, let's start here. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: What's up, straighty hose and sturdy bros. I just want

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: to give a huge shout out to texting with your neighbor.

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: I text my neighbor when I want him to stop

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: playing guitar, and it has put me in a weird

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01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: place because because now there's like a verbal record, a

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: written record of every time I told him to be quiet,

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Speaker 1: and it makes me look like the annoying one because

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Speaker 1: I'm always texting. But in reality, it's kind of because

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: he's constantly playing guitar really loud, and it's it's like

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Speaker 1: he could just go get a practice space. And no.

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Speaker 1: I hope he never hears this, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's a bad guy, nothing but respect. And I think

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Speaker 1: that we it's tough living in New York City and

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Speaker 1: they should figure out how to sound proof these damn apartments.

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: And um, I think he's a very talented sound designer

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: and yet he can really pick up when to play

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01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: guitar that will just make my brain snap into I

1074
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: can go from a bad mood to a horrific mood.

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: And just one little stroma of that guitar are um

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01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: so huge. Shot to texting with your neighbors. It's so

1077
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: important to build community. And I love you and y City.

1078
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: I really love that shadow. I'm dealing with the neighbor

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: right now who's snoring is keeping me up. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it feels it's disgusting because it feels like I'm sleeping

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: with them. Like to feel the vibration, Yeah, no, I

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01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: feel it. It It happens in l A too. Wow. That's

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: actually good to know. Um. So, whenever you are ready,

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Speaker 1: I say hit it. Okay, okay, okay, shout out to

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Speaker 1: shout out to a blue screen viewers on the ears.

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: I have a blue screen behind me and I started

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01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: using one because um, I didn't know if this was

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: going to be you know, you put out in public

1089
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: a visual medium and in some way which a lot

1090
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: of podcasts are, and the way I would not let

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: like so many individuals into my home. Yet somehow they're

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: in my home. You know what I mean, Like they

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01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: get to see to my home, my space, your eyes

1094
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: are on it, your energy is in't here. There's so

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01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: many fucking randoms out here. Shout out to the blue screen.

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: So these randoms can't see my home. I don't want

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01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: randoms in my home energetically, and their eyeballs are in

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: my home. And I'm so grateful because it's like and

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Speaker 1: like you'll get under zoom and I'm like, dude, nice couch.

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't. I never want you to know

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Speaker 1: what my couch looks like. And it's like, so shout

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Speaker 1: out to S and I love that blue screen. Wow.

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: You know it's so I assumed the screen was in

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Speaker 1: front of a wall. I'm now actually peeking on the

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01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: upper right corner. I'm realizing, no, oh my god, there

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01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: is literally a room behind it. Wow. That's amazing. That's impressive.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I was actually an actor in l A

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Speaker 1: sort of have a blue screen for my tape. That's incredible. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: Nolas has been an absolute delight. It has been apposed

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Speaker 1: to have you on. This has been I've laughed my

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Speaker 1: little tuki off. I've had the best time. I really

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Speaker 1: need to more than normal. Yeah, and there goes an AirPod. Thought, um,

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Speaker 1: well now I simply have to go pee very me too,

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Speaker 1: so bad I am going to explode so um with

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Speaker 1: your sister. Go Peepist girl by