WEBVTT - I Am All Minisode: Susan Ruttan 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.279 I am all in. Oh, I kiss you. I am 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.360 all in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Everybody. 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.639 It's Scott. How are you? How is everybody doing? We've 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:31.680 got uh an exciting guest, Susan Ritan, formerly of L 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.920 A Law. If you remember L A Law. What a 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:40.080 great series. H Emmy Award nominated actress multiple times for 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:45.839 her role as Corbin Burnson's assistant in that show. Uh, 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.800 and I think she's in the green room. Um, and 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:54.640 listen while we're waiting. Don't forget Live podcast Friends Giving, 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:01.760 Emily Coroda, Jackson, Douglas Grantly, Phillips Grantly, Buffalo and who's 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.399 the last one? Who's the last one? Sally Struthers. For 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.680 God's sake, I almost forgot Sally. Sally Struther is gonna 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.160 join us. The most talented, the funniest, and the strongest 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:17.840 woman I have ever met. Um because she's able to 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.640 leap tooll buildings in a single bound. Um and pick 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.080 me up and carry me around a set for thirty 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.680 minutes at a time. Uh and boys, and that a story. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:34.480 But Susan Routan is gonna be joining us any minute. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:40.400 And uh, I'm here. Hello, Hi, nice meeting you. How 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.479 are you. I'm well, thanks, how are you? I'm doing 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.160 very very well. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for being 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.680 on the podcast. We're excited to have you. We love 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.720 the episode. It's a it was a real kick in 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:57.120 the you know what's then the whole the whole um. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:01.960 So um, you played well, you were big l a 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.480 law I mean now was a huge series and you 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.280 were nominated multiple times. And uh, I think our producers 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.760 are trying to figure out what happened between you and 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.160 Corbyn Burnson or Corbyn Burnson and other people and what 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.960 didn't he dated around? Right? He was? Oh yes, he 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:30.280 was a slut okay on the show. I'm not speaking personally. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.880 I love around he did, And Roxanne and Army finally 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.160 hooked up, um, which I don't think the audience really 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.320 liked that. They felt Roxanne deserved better, didn't like why 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.679 so why didn't they like that? I think they said, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.040 I think they felt Roxanne deserved better. Um, they kind 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.360 of liked the tension between them. You know, that's often 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.000 the case in shows when two people get together after 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.320 a long time kind of danced and the audiences go, well, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.400 you know, we kind have preferred it the old way. Um, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:07.720 so it was it was fine. Well, thanks for coming on. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.959 Did you know did you watch Road Trip to Harvard? 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.520 Did you? Did you enjoy? I did, yes, and I 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:21.600 forgot how wonderful that show was. Right, Well, tell us 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.240 how you got the part for Kilmore Girls. Um, you 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.680 know for that show. I don't really remember, you know, 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.919 it might have been offered or it probably was at 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:37.720 that time offered um to do. Um. I don't remember 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:43.320 what year that was. That was two and one, okay, yeah, 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.640 that was probably it's a long time. Do you remember 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.920 do you remember about interacting with anybody on the set 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.680 or who you were? Oh? I just remember that the 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.800 people everybody on the show was really nice and really welcoming. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.600 They really made you feel like you were a part 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.440 of it, which doesn't always happen when you're resting on 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.960 a show, but that they were really Um it comes 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.320 from the head, you know, the people that the leaders 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.320 of the show were terrific and that just extended to 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.800 everybody who came on it. M Yeah, I was very 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.640 surprised to get that role, uh, because it was you know, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.280 that was the time when when people from film we're 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.960 crossing over into doing television, and the script was of 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.680 such quality, I figured, well, you know, it's going to 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.599 have a nice audition and that's going to be it 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.120 A big movie stars gonna right, I mean, it's gonna 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.400 be right. A name, they're going to get a name 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.000 in there, right, And uh, I think you know, the 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.080 creators fought for all of us individually, like no, well 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.880 thank you that you were like perfect. I think I 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.080 think I think you're right. I think it was like 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.520 the one thing of the thousands of auditions if I 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.479 had that that I fit perfectly in. Yeah, because because 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.120 it's nice when that happens, isn't it. You just get 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:55.839 this and you go, oh yeah, this is me. Yeah 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.480 right right, I can do this and I can't see 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.000 anybody else doing it and I to do this and um, 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.680 you know, and you know how it is. You go 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.000 in and you're almost right for something, but there's something 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.560 a little like you know, and you never get those jobs. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.680 You never get those jobs. Isn't that funny how that is? 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.880 I mean, casting is so ultraspecific. It's such a difficult 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.400 thing to do, and that's the reason they see so 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.720 many people. It's different now, it's just sort of like 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.880 you go on. There's no contact now, it's just you 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.200 just put yourself on. You're just a barrel somewhere that 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.839 you put yourself send it in exactly, and it's like 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.560 there's no person to person contact, there's no getting to 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.280 know anybody, there's no no feedback. No, you know that 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.120 was great. Can we try it a different way sort 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.040 of thing? It's like you got one shot at it. Yeah, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:47.880 So I think I think it would be better if 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.640 they just you know, cast you off your previous work, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.840 because that's going to be the best possible tape you have. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.440 I mean, you're not gonna make anything in your in 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.360 your basement. That's better than than I mean, in my case, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:06.600 it's better and more girls they're looking for. I mean, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.640 I'm not drooling out of one side of my mouth yet. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.280 So yeah, I think I can do the part right. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:20.200 That's good. You're okay anyway? Yes, things have changed? Um so, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.440 all right, so looking back on this episode now we're 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.000 back to Gilmore. Did did you laugh out loud when 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:31.320 you were watching this episode? Tell about that part? You know? 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.200 I loved I love them, you know, their expressions and 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:41.400 their responses just fed everything I knew. I mean that person. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.880 I mean, she's she's a relative, she's I know that person. Uh, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.839 the person that I played. Um, that person who's so 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:55.359 interested in everything you do. Um. So yeah, and and 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.119 uh and I've forgotten about that haircut, which is really 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.320 the same haircut as my haircut I had in the 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:05.440 first grade. Um. So that made me laugh. Um yeah, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:10.040 I I I just I felt really fond of the 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:15.000 show watching it, like, oh, yeah, I remember this, this 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.840 was great. Yeah. There was a term I read over 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.640 the weekend about there's a condition now known as positive toxicity, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.680 where somebody is so ultra positive all of the time 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:33.520 it can actually be harmful. It's like, it's like, why 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.239 do you blanch when people are just so overwhelmingly positive 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.760 all the time, even in the face of, you know, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.840 where their friend needs support or something terrible happened, They're 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.520 just like to keep your chain up, just just you 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.240 know this kind of I have to remember that. It 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.440 reminded me of those characters where they're just like completely 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.360 positive all the time. It kind of makes sense now 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.840 why why Laurel and Rory were avoiding them, because it 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.880 was there was a little level of toxicity. There was 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.080 kind of funny it was very funny. Yeah, that is 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.320 That was a great episode. I love that episode. I 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:07.880 love them. You know, I loved you in it when 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.760 when you found out that she wasn't going to marry him, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.320 and it's so subtle and beautiful. Put a little zippity 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:22.720 back in my dude, didn't it. Yeah? It was great. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.200 Thank you. Um. You know, I don't remember a single 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.280 thing about any of these episodes. You don't. I never 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.920 watched them, and you know, your short term memories developed 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.400 to the point where you just sort of, you know, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.079 you get rid of the old stuff to make room 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.319 for the new dialogue, and you know what that's like. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.480 So I don't. I don't remember these scenes. And I'm 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.440 it's like I'm watching another person. It's so odd. That's interesting, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.480 and it's so odd because I don't know who that 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.160 is I'm watching and I'm thinking, God, he's you know, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.520 when I'm good, I'm thinking, Wow, guy's pretty good. And 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.400 then when I'm bad, I'm like, God, that guy, really 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.240 that's stunk. You know, the should it shouldn't have kept 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.800 that take, you know, you know that kind of thing. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.400 But I get all judge with myself, but not as myself, 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.120 but I'm looking at another person, isn't that? You know? 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.720 I don't watch what I do. I do because I 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.080 don't want to. I don't want to be in that 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.520 moment going God, why did you do that? Why do 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:18.560 I say? Why was my face like that? Second guesser's hell, yeah, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.520 you can't do it. That's why I always I just 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.560 you know, I waited twenty years to to watch it, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.240 and I'm disconnected from it now, and it's I can 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.280 sit back and really, um be critical about it and 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.080 in a constructive way, you know, I mean, not be 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.800 you know, not try to sure got anything because it's me, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.800 because it doesn't really seem like me. It's it's it's 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.199 very odd, it's kind of fun. Um yeah, yeah, alright. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.559 So look in this episode, you and your husband Grill, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.160 Laurela and Rory about their lives. Did you receive any 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:52.280 direction that you recall on how to play that scene? No? Good? 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.440 You know, I find I don't know about you, but 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.040 I find that generally true. What you you know, what 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.480 what you bring in is generally what they want. It's 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.880 like they hired you for that reason because you gave 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.880 them what they wanted, and they don't really have to 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.320 tell you it might be you know, don't stand so close, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.840 or you know, turn around a little bit, stay out 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.880 of the camera, you know, just you know that kind 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.520 of thing. But really it's your personality, your your nature, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:25.400 your intuitive reaction to the character. Um No, I don't 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.480 recall any specific direction except sit there and that's it. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.640 Have you ever have you ever nailed an audition gotten 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.320 the offer, got on set and you were opposite your 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.360 scene partner or partners, and it was just just felt 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.599 so wrong that you didn't know how to because the 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.040 audition was so smooth and you you connected with the 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.160 reader or whatever, and you can connect with anybody, but 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.040 then you get there. That's one job like that where 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.199 I loved the material and my audition was like, I 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.760 couldn't have done it better. The job was mine. I 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:04.479 at it. I went to the set the first rehearsal, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.200 the person that I was supposed to have a strong 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:14.040 emotional relationship be his mother was dead in the water 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:21.480 and just and was hostile. Um And it was the 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.319 most unpleasant. I mean, I just wanted to walk away, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.520 but you know, you don't do that. You keep hoping 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.880 that somebody's going to bring something out of that person 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.000 or direct them or or let them know that they 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:40.280 need to know. But that was that was really I 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.840 think the only really bad interaction I ever had, and 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.400 it was it was hurtful. I cried after it because 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.280 I couldn't do what I do. I couldn't. I was 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:56.280 it was like acting with a mean brick wall, spikes 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.160 all over it. You know, you just you know, have 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:04.280 you that ever have been to you? Yeah? Unfortunately, Yeah, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.640 it happened to me over a period of time, uh, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.480 with the same person, and it's just sort of it 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:16.559 started out so great and I mean just like amazingly 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.559 well and then it just devolved into this psychodrama. I 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:26.240 mean it was just really weird over a period of time. Um, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:31.160 and it it almost put me off serious television. Yeah, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.840 it can do that almost. I I remember saying to 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 my my team at the time, I said, look, I 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.440 think I'm kind of done. You know. Gilmore was great, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.120 and but this happened and it was like, maybe we 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.200 should just take a break for a while because that 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.400 was you know, part of that is because when you're 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.480 as an actor, you're not just standing there saying lines. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.360 You're opening up your heart to whatever who's ever next 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.840 to you, whoever you're talking to, their true emotions. They're 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.440 not it's not like fake anything. So when somebody doesn't 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.440 respond to you or blocked you, that's such a good point. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.720 That's such a good point. It's such a good point, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.480 you know. Yeah, that that that interaction amongst the cast 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.560 is crucial. Yeah, it's crucial. And you do form families 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.120 you I mean, they don't last. You know, maybe once 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.960 in a while you have a lasting friendship with somebody, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.000 but they you do form these little tribes and they're important. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.720 There important support systems that are woven together, you know, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.920 one kindness or one gesture at a time, one successful 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.560 scene after another, and they just build and build and build. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.079 And I mean the experience started out just wonderful. It 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.160 was just wonderful, and then all of a sudden you 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.520 could hear the screeching breaks and it just went down, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.079 and uh, I just couldn't wait for it to end. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.640 And I was so glad that it didn't get picked up. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.240 You have know what, Oh yeah, to think that you 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.920 might have to do that for seven years, Oh my goodness, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.840 I've never been so happy in my life. My manager 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.199 called me, said, I got good news and bad as 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.080 I said, what's the I said, what's the good what's 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.520 the bad news? This series got canceled. I said, that's 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.679 the best news. What's the what's the good news? She 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:23.920 goes the series got canceled. Let me ask you, so 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.000 you you've been constantly working? I mean, do you always 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.600 have the next job lined up? Oh? No, definitely not. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.800 I UM, you know, I'm I don't. I don't really 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.880 work as much anymore. I mean, I work, but I 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.680 don't work like I'm. I don't want to work so 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:50.320 much anymore. Let me say that I I'm enjoying my life. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.600 I'm writing, I'm working on a project, developing project. We've 0:14:54.600 --> 0:15:00.200 got a deal on it. I'm i'm I'm. I want 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.000 to take time to do the things that I love 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:08.320 to do. The jobs that I take, I love doing them. Um, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.320 but I don't want to work all the time. I'd 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.960 like to recur on things. That's that's my idea of 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:20.800 a good life. Call me when you need me. I 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.760 do love to work. I'm actually looking. I haven't done 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.800 a play in years, and I just worked on a show, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.400 UM with a fellow who played my husband, David Wells 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.960 and wonderful actor, and he we became friends. When you 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.680 talk about being friends, we became friends. We had an 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.760 arduous job that we had to do um and through 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.600 that we supported each other. And and he brought me 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.200 a play that someone had written and we're gonna start 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.840 working on. Oh good, that's exciting. And you know, good 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.760 things come at you know, these things happen you. You 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.480 just keep finding the things that make you have Right. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.200 It's like when I thought of this podcast, It's kind 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:06.840 of a funny story because I thought it was some 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.000 incredibly original idea that hit me in the middle of 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.080 the pandemic, right, and I was not aware that there 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.000 were like, you know, ninety thousand of these rewatch podcasts 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.720 going on at the time. So I called Amy, the 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.720 producer of this, and I said, listen, I have this idea. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.600 Lightning is struck. I have this idea. And when when 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.360 she came back very quickly and said, look, we have 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.840 a deal, let's let's do it, I was shocked. I 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:40.320 was shocked. There was like or more, um, way more. Uh. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.760 But uh, it's always nice to work. It's always nice 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.360 to have a job. Yes, it will, especially when you're 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:52.360 having fun with it. It's a blast. It's a blast 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.960 because I'm I'm also a producer on it, and it's like, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.400 you know, all the guests are are so much fun 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.440 and they're so happy to be talking about the show 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.720 and their experiences, and it's just it's just really it is. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.239 It's it's a true gift. It really is. Um. So 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.159 let me ask you. You've been on shows like Grey's, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.680 Anatomy nine one one, and Mom, uh, and there has 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.600 there been a show that stands out more than the others, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.880 uh in terms of the times that you spent on set, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.159 in the memories that you took away from it. Um, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.359 I would Mom was one of my favorite shows. Uh. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.119 Working with Anna and and everybody else on this show, 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.879 I was really sad, you know, I was recurring on 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.919 that show, and I was really sad. Went on and 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.679 decided to to go up and do what she needed 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.440 to do, wasn't I was sad for myself, not for her. 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.960 She's you know, she had other things to happen. So 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.800 she she left the series after a couple of years, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:55.120 a couple of seasons before the last season. How many 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.760 How long did it go? Uh? I think it was 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:03.240 six seasons, So six seasons total. She left after the fifth. Yeah, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.199 she you know, she had whatever it was. It was 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.680 her life, you know, and she had things to do. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.879 But I was really sad not to get to play 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.600 with her anymore on that show. Was a great relationship. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.440 And there have been endless shows that I've had wonderful 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.280 times on. I've been working on the United States of 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.840 Al recently, and and that's a wonderful group. I mean, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.880 Chuck Laurie, Chuck Laurie has great sets. You know, he's 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:35.919 a he's a terrific fellow. He's mindful of everybody's needs. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:40.159 He's he's so brilliant. I'm just privileged to be a 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.520 part of that. Let me ask you, uh, since we're 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.399 talking a little bit about longevity in the business, Um, 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.200 when you got the role of Roxanne on l A Law, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.600 did you know that you were going to be doing 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.720 that role for a hundred and fifty episodes? Did you 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.480 have any inkling? No? No, I didn't think about it. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.159 I tell you, I never really thought of acting as 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.960 a career. Um. I just sort of fell into it. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.840 Uh So I never thought anything about long term. I thought, oh, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.239 this is fun, I'm doing this. Now I'm not like 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.920 UM in the Future. I just I just was there. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.879 It was yeah, that show. You know, that Roxane, that 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:27.959 character UM was my other half, you know, she was. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.720 She was that part of me that didn't get presented 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:41.600 all the time. Um uh yeah. Roxanne. Was sometimes hard 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.080 for me to talk about that show because emotionally, I 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:49.440 was so deeply connected to it. Everybody in it, everybody 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:55.600 was fantastic. Again a show where the set there were 0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:00.440 no issues. Everybody genuinely liked each other. We had parties, 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.639 we had dinners, we had you know, we didn't go 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:09.120 home and forget about it, right. Gosh, different times, huh, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:18.000 different different at different times. You know. I remember once, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.280 uh one of my teachers in New York said to me, Scott, 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.600 be careful what you do in the business, right because 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.280 you only have so many performances inside you mm hmm. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.720 And you know when we were all, you know, training 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.120 in New York and doing our theater in that whole deal, 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:42.119 we had this kind of attitude, Uh, this position we 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.440 took against TV because of the repetitive nature of it. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:47.960 You have to do this care If you get a series, 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.720 you're gonna be on it for you know, potentially you know, two, three, five, 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.840 seven years, whatever it is. And you know, we were 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.960 warned about this, said, you're not going to be able 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.920 to do the great roles, not going to be able 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.480 to do the roles you want to do. You're gonna 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.439 do this one role that you want to do at 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.600 the time, but then seven years later you're gonna evolve 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.160 as a person. But you keep having to go back 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:15.240 and dip into the same well. And you know, careful, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.200 it could rob you of whatever gift you have been 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:22.560 given to portray all these different characters. If you're so 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.359 inclined that you want to have a varied career, you 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.920 know what I mean? And man, was she right because 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.199 at the end of Gilmore, I was like, Wow, I 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:36.520 need a break. It's like when you get to the 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:42.000 point where you're right, acting shouldn't be a job. It 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.120 shouldn't be a daily job, but it is, right, So 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.399 how do you so? The hard part about TV, and 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.520 I know you went through this is how do you 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:53.520 keep it fresh? How do you stay inspired? And when 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.920 it becomes a burden, when it becomes like, oh, it's 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:02.040 my job, and yeah, you know there are those you 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.080 know you take those jobs and sometimes that's just about money. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:06.800 You know, they're offering me a lot of money to 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.960 do something that may not be, you know, the biggest 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.919 heart thing in the world, but you'll do it because 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.159 sometimes you do have to do a job, or you 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.919 want to do the job or whatever. Um. But you know, 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.000 I think the thing is to keep your heart intact, 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:29.399 you know, to keep present emotionally with every role. UM. 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:31.840 In l a Law. One of the things that I 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.960 was grateful for was that the character evolved. She was 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.040 not the same person at the end of the show 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.600 as she was at the beginning. She grew as a 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:45.120 human being, and that that doesn't always happen on a series. UM. 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:51.000 So in that sense, I was extremely lucky. UM. Do 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.000 you feel like your character on on the show like 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:59.720 grew and without question, without question? Yeah, And that's it's 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.879 like it's like you get to live the life of 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:07.560 another person, um, which is amazing. Uh. That's what it's 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.160 great for actors. We get to be all these other people, 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:15.080 experience their trials and tribulations and loves and losses and 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.280 and uh, and then go back to our own. It's like, 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.199 if they're really bad, you could leave those behind. Now. 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.200 I think we were all excited to come back and 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.960 do the reboot reboot with Netflix in two thousand and 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:29.679 sixteen because there was you know, there was still a 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.760 lot of life left in the characters and in the story, 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:39.000 and we weren't, um, what's the term. We weren't really 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.640 artistically bankrupt as much as maybe we thought we were 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.520 at the end of the run of the series. Um 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.800 because some people had some pretty empty gas tanks artistically speaking, 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.720 and needed to, you know, explore greener pastures. And I 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.480 fully understand and support that. I wonder what you're doing this. 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.720 You know, the fans need content at they're not getting 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.920 any content. I mean, this is this is a fan 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.720 base that is so utterly devoted and for obvious reasons, 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.600 and they're not getting any content. It must be so frustrating. 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.359 And now I get how they feel. I mean, it 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.040 must be so frustrating just loving something so much and 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.000 it's just unrequited, unrequited year after year, and you live 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.119 on hope, and you live on hope and just nothing happens. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.080 And then you get this reboot, which was kind of like, 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.800 I don't know, right, it was math a little bit. 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.000 And so they want they want more, they want better, 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.960