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Speaker 2: Let's do it. We have bricking news. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you really went for it. There is this the the
Speaker 2: cal thing.
Speaker 3: This is this is the many cups of coffee thing
Speaker 3: first and foremost. But okay, let's start with the cal thing.
Speaker 3: California has announced your your native homeland, Daniel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you talking state or Berkeley? Because there's a
Speaker 2: Berkeley news story too that they're going fully online this fall.
Speaker 1: I don't have that one I was talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just broke the California Interscholastic Federation. But do
Speaker 3: we want to start with Berkeley instead? What's going on
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 2: No, they're just they are regretful, but they're going to
Speaker 2: online learning only this fall, and an announcement that comes
Speaker 2: on the heels of some other schools. You know, we
Speaker 2: saw the cal State announcement a few weeks back. USC
Speaker 2: having that announcement, I guess a couple of weeks ago now,
Speaker 2: but yeah, more and more, I guess big schools as
Speaker 2: Berkeley is. Berkeley is a Power five school going to
Speaker 2: online learning only, which doesn't mean that there isn't necessarily
Speaker 2: going to be an on field product this fall for
Speaker 2: the cal Bears, but it certainly is not a movement
Speaker 2: in the right direction. We talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Optics wise with Nicole auerback house school can go from
Speaker 2: saying we don't feel like students in classrooms is the
Speaker 2: way to go from a public health perspective, but we're
Speaker 2: still cool with football players. That's a tough optic cell.
Speaker 2: But there still will be an optic cell if there
Speaker 2: is that continued desire to play a season on the
Speaker 2: Berkeley campus.
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the story that I had previously listed atop
Speaker 3: our news sheet is that the California Interscholastic Federation cif
Speaker 3: CIF it's the governing body for the state of high
Speaker 3: school sports in California. They announced on Monday the earliest
Speaker 3: their football season and the remainder of their fall sports
Speaker 3: will start is December twenty twenty. The move, as you
Speaker 3: might expect, could have a major impact on college football recruiting.
Speaker 3: It could set a precedent not just in the state
Speaker 3: of California, but other states. Amid the coronavirus pandemic. I
Speaker 3: saw also that they might push it off to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one. The earliest they would consider again is December
Speaker 3: or January. So, in light of this news and light
Speaker 3: of the Berkeley news, I don't know if there's a
Speaker 3: drum beat. I don't know if there's momentum. I don't
Speaker 3: know what you want to call it or classify it as.
Speaker 3: But I feel like we are very quickly coming to
Speaker 3: that point of, Hey, the spring's got so bad, we
Speaker 3: could find a way to make the spring work.
Speaker 2: Potentially, Yeah, I mean a move like this, which is
Speaker 2: certainly not going isn't the first and won't be the
Speaker 2: last in terms of major state high school systems postponing
Speaker 2: football and fall sports. US just enormous ramifications. When you
Speaker 2: think about the players who might decide to forego their
Speaker 2: senior year of high school football if they're committed somewhere
Speaker 2: or anticipate committing somewhere and enrolling early instead of playing
Speaker 2: in a December or January season or starting in December
Speaker 2: or January, we're talking about players getting fewer reps, less experience,
Speaker 2: less coaching. In terms of players who would have made
Speaker 2: a jump recruiting wise because of a strong senior year,
Speaker 2: either because you know, maybe they had to sit out
Speaker 2: their junior year because they were in the midst of
Speaker 2: a transfer and weird academic shuffling occurred, or they were
Speaker 2: hurt their junior year. It's going to affect the depth
Speaker 2: of classes on the Power five level. It might actually
Speaker 2: improve classes on the G five level. You know, if
Speaker 2: we're going to specifically look at California, you know, schools
Speaker 2: like San Jose State, Nevada, Boise State, you know, thinking
Speaker 2: about San Diego State, whatever, Mountain West schools specifically closer
Speaker 2: to the West Coast, they're the ones that might not
Speaker 2: have their best players poached after having huge senior years
Speaker 2: by Oregon, Oregon State, cal Stamford, whatever, and so those
Speaker 2: schools might be fortifying their classes a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But in the end, I think it's it's a big
Speaker 2: negative in terms of how it affects college football and
Speaker 2: high school football. I mean, it's a California high school
Speaker 2: football is It's not I suppose Texas or Florida or
Speaker 2: Georgia or Ohio in terms of cultural importance, But in
Speaker 2: terms of the numbers that it states into major college football,
Speaker 2: it's hut big state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, what else?
Speaker 3: So, the Southwestern Athletic Conference the SWACK yeah, has postponed
Speaker 3: fall sports and championships because of the pandemic. They have
Speaker 3: begun plans to push the fall schedule to the spring semester.
Speaker 3: According to a statement that was provided to ESPN on Monday,
Speaker 3: the plans for football include a seven game conference schedule
Speaker 3: that begins with an eight week training period in January.
Speaker 3: Commissioner Charles McClellan said games would begin near the end
Speaker 3: of February or beginning of March. Each school will play
Speaker 3: six conference games for Divisional, two non Divisional, with the
Speaker 3: option to play one non con game. So again, perhaps
Speaker 3: a bit of a trickle up effect, maybe starting at
Speaker 3: the high school level, working all the way up to
Speaker 3: major college football. But Southwestern Athletic Conference jumping on in
Speaker 3: to my knowledge of the first athletic conference to sort
Speaker 3: of just go all out and say we're going to
Speaker 3: try and do this in the spring. I don't think
Speaker 3: maybe this I have tried to do that yet. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: in the great state of Texas, clinging to hope, I
Speaker 3: think that we might have something this fall. There's a
Speaker 3: headline here on ESPN that Texas is aiming for fifty
Speaker 3: percent capacity at football games. The University of Texas says
Speaker 3: it anticipates hosting football games fifty percent capacity in the Sands.
Speaker 3: Chris del Conti, their ad emailed season ticket holders on Monday,
Speaker 3: told in that school's working closely with the governor's office
Speaker 3: following state guidelines on social distancing amid the pandemic. This
Speaker 3: strikes me as extremely wishful thinking, but the kind of
Speaker 3: communications that at this juncture you need to send out
Speaker 3: because we've got the SEC, we've got the ACC, we've
Speaker 3: got the Big Twelve. None of them have formally committed
Speaker 3: to the whole conference only games thing. Certainly there hasn't
Speaker 3: There hasn't been much public in the way of moving
Speaker 3: the season altogether to a different semester. I understand why
Speaker 3: they send this out, but again, given recent circumstances and
Speaker 3: the news of the world, it does feel a little
Speaker 3: bit like wishful thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not exactly a plan. Not exactly a plan. It's
Speaker 2: more of optimism. I'm aiming to have an eight pack
Speaker 2: and toss down windmill dunks by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: But that's just something I'm aiming for. That doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: mean it's based in reality. In Texas right now is
Speaker 2: not one of the better states in terms of public
Speaker 2: health and the ability to not just flatten, but really
Speaker 2: put a dent in COVID nineteen. If you look at
Speaker 2: you know, the hospitalization rate and the infection rates as
Speaker 2: it relates to testing, Texas is not in a fantastic place.
Speaker 2: And I know, you know, Austin's obviously a bigger city
Speaker 2: within Texas, and it's just it's rough. Houston's in a
Speaker 2: bad place. It's hard to imagine with how Texas specifically
Speaker 2: and a lot of major college football states have done
Speaker 2: a pretty poor job and are seeing pretty big spikes.
Speaker 2: You look at the per capita numbers throughout the South California, Arizona,
Speaker 2: now Nevada. It's I think your term of wishful thinking
Speaker 2: is probably the accurate one. This is not a state
Speaker 2: that has made sound decisions along the way. And it's
Speaker 2: very hard to make sound decisions, I know, because this
Speaker 2: is such a new thing. But of all the states
Speaker 2: that are being optimistic about getting live action in front
Speaker 2: of people, even a fifty capacity situation, this feels a
Speaker 2: bit out of reality to.
Speaker 3: Our earlier point from a show or two a go.
Speaker 3: If a school like Texas decides, ah, we can't do this,
Speaker 3: then you'll see some real dominoes. But for now, fifty
Speaker 3: percent capacity, we'll we'll stick to that company line, and hey,
Speaker 3: we'll hope for the best. I want to see football
Speaker 3: sooner than later, but well, time will tell elsewhere. Amid
Speaker 3: this seemingly weird time for scheduling in college football, we
Speaker 3: had the Alabama athletic director shooting down Notre Dame as
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty opponent BYU is reportedly targeted as a
Speaker 3: Week one replacement. So you might recall Alabama had USC
Speaker 3: on the schedule Week one. That game is not going
Speaker 3: to happen because of the Pac twelves announcement, and so
Speaker 3: Alabama's basically out there trying to figure out, right, well.
Speaker 1: Who else will we play?
Speaker 3: BYU, as it stands is look for games as well,
Speaker 3: and so the reports are that that could be your
Speaker 3: opener because BYU I think had Utah for the Holy
Speaker 3: War week one, and now that they're both looking for
Speaker 3: some action, BYU could obviously fill fill that gap.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, I mean BYU, as an independent school, has
Speaker 2: to be pretty terrified of what their schedule could look
Speaker 2: like the more and more, especially with the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: going conference only slate this fall. It's they're in a
Speaker 2: tough spot and it makes sense for Alabama, and Alabama
Speaker 2: I believe has a home and home on the books
Speaker 2: with Notre Dame already. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in twenty twenty eight and twenty twenty nine, so
Speaker 3: a bit off, a bit off in the future. I know.
Speaker 3: We talked to Pete Sampson last week. He I think
Speaker 3: mentioned that to Brian Kelly and he said, Brian Kelly's
Speaker 3: eyes got real big.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And good for Alabama for not just you know, if
Speaker 2: the USC game is officially off the books. Good for
Speaker 2: Alabama for finding a team that just beat USC and
Speaker 2: scheduling up.
Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, and the final news bullet here
Speaker 3: again something just to keep your eyes on. Iowa's coach,
Speaker 3: Kirk ference was apparently aware of racial bias within the
Speaker 3: program after a twenty eighteen internal investigation. That is, per
Speaker 3: a document acquired by Hawkeye Nation. They filed a Foyer
Speaker 3: request to see that internal report. Iowa had created a
Speaker 3: diversity task force. They found that black players were targeted
Speaker 3: for more drug testing, they weren't informed of resources available
Speaker 3: to student athletes, more harshly punished, expected to conform to culture,
Speaker 3: that the white players set a lot of bad stuff
Speaker 3: in their verbal harassment by coaches. The report was supposedly
Speaker 3: read by Kirk Farence in twenty nineteen, according to Hawkeye Nation,
Speaker 3: but he only made some minor changes to the culture
Speaker 3: of the program prior to last season.
Speaker 2: Not fully shocking given the comments that we've seen recently.
Speaker 2: And it was all sort of set off by James
Speaker 2: Daniels and a Moni hooker and talking about the culture
Speaker 2: of Iowa football and how you know, one of the
Speaker 2: things in the report that comes up a term a lot,
Speaker 2: and they interviewed a number of players. It was double
Speaker 2: standard and the desire from those in charge at Iowa
Speaker 2: to as you mentioned, conform black players to white culture
Speaker 2: and to Iowa culture. And there is there is a
Speaker 2: certain degree of Yes, you enroll at a school, you
Speaker 2: become part of a college football program. You tried to
Speaker 2: become a part of that program's culture. But when it's
Speaker 2: drawn along racial lines, it's tough tie. It was a
Speaker 2: tough read, and I'm sure Kirk Farens sort of adjusted
Speaker 2: the way Iowa's football program did things when he knew
Speaker 2: only he and a select fewer reading this report, And
Speaker 2: now that many people have seen this report, it seems
Speaker 2: like he's taking on a different tone. I just don't
Speaker 2: know how many chances Kirk Farence gets. I understand that
Speaker 2: when you win football games and you have prolonged success
Speaker 2: like Ioways had in a very tough Big ten, that
Speaker 2: you're afforded more opportunity and more leeway. But geez, I
Speaker 2: know he's he's had a chance over what twenty years
Speaker 2: to sort of become more inclusive and get to know
Speaker 2: the players and is within his program and to sort
Speaker 2: of build the culture around the people he brings into
Speaker 2: it instead of just how he believes, you know, nineteen
Speaker 2: year old should behave. I don't know, ty this just
Speaker 2: it feels increasingly tone deaf from Kirk Farence and so
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen because he has
Speaker 2: certainly accumulated a good amount of power there. But the
Speaker 2: Iowa football program is under a magnifying glass like they've
Speaker 2: never been. And this is it's not a pretty read
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: That's what I say.
Speaker 3: Keep your eyes peeled here. This feels like feels like
Speaker 3: there's more to come. Okay, So look, if you've got
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Speaker 3: part to keep the conversation going here in the long cold,
Speaker 3: the longest night of college football as we wait for
Speaker 3: the next season to arrive. On our show a week ago,
Speaker 3: we talked about some stuff, didn't we do?
Speaker 1: We did?
Speaker 2: I mean, we always talk about some stuff, but you
Speaker 2: put a pin in a certain topic and said, okay,
Speaker 2: this is something that we can discuss for at least
Speaker 2: twenty seven to thirty eight minutes next week. And I
Speaker 2: agreed with you, and so here we are.
Speaker 3: What we did a week ago was we did our
Speaker 3: college Football Bangers episode, And essentially what that was was
Speaker 3: us looking at schedules, as they say in right Now,
Speaker 3: conference schedules and putting together like the most baller five
Speaker 3: games slate for a number of teams. And at the
Speaker 3: very end of that conversation you started kicking around ideas
Speaker 3: for the postseason.
Speaker 1: What happened in the postseason?
Speaker 3: If you've got an abbreviated season, how do you determine
Speaker 3: a champion? How do you even think about determining that champion?
Speaker 3: And we decided then and there live on the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always going to be pit. It's just going
Speaker 2: to be pit no matter what. That's what we settled on.
Speaker 3: The question de jore is what do we do with
Speaker 3: bowls and the whole process of finding a champion in
Speaker 3: a bunch of different scenarios. So why let's start here? Okay,
Speaker 3: let's start with a scenario in which we've got a
Speaker 3: full twelve game season for some and so I guess
Speaker 3: what the SEC, the ACC and the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: They filled some gaps.
Speaker 2: We talked about Alabama BYU and they're turning two other
Speaker 2: conferences and to each other to fill in gaps left
Speaker 2: by potentially the PAC twelve and Big ten.
Speaker 3: So we got a full twelve game season for three
Speaker 3: Power five conferences, and then we have an adjusted season
Speaker 3: for some of the other ones. So I'm assuming our
Speaker 3: first scenario here is like an asymmetrical season. Some teams
Speaker 3: play twelve, some teams play ten. Maybe some teams don't
Speaker 3: even get to ten. Yes, how do we determine a champion?
Speaker 1: Dan? Have you thought about this? Do we do bowls?
Speaker 1: What does that look like?
Speaker 2: What if I told you that some conferences play eight
Speaker 2: conference games and some play nine in an ordinary season.
Speaker 2: Sometimes teams play FCS school sometimes teams don't. What if
Speaker 2: I told you college football is an already asymmetrically scheduled sport.
Speaker 1: What if I told you that.
Speaker 3: I would tell you that you're pretty close here, Dan,
Speaker 3: this is this is probably the best of the best
Speaker 3: case scenarios.
Speaker 2: Yes, the best of the best.
Speaker 3: I have not heard much of anyone talking about a
Speaker 3: full twelve games slate if they're able to pull off
Speaker 3: a season this fall. It seems like ten is the number.
Speaker 3: When I talked to Pete last week, he said ten.
Speaker 1: Been reading a lot.
Speaker 3: Of articles out there talking about how ten games might
Speaker 3: be an appropriate target. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 3: realistic target. I just it seems like twelve is probably
Speaker 3: too many at this point. But for the purposes of
Speaker 3: conversation and this thought exercise, if that were the case,
Speaker 3: I don't think it would look.
Speaker 1: All that different than it does right now. Right Like,
Speaker 1: you could still do most of the same stuff.
Speaker 3: Schedules might be a little bit different, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: logistically that would be a headache for athletic directors and
Speaker 3: the powers that be, But ultimately, a little bit of
Speaker 3: an asymmetrical season isn't the end of the world. That
Speaker 3: would be pretty good.
Speaker 2: So, as we've now learned, the point of college football
Speaker 2: happening at all is largely going to be the money.
Speaker 2: It's more of the season being more important financially than
Speaker 2: the postseason, or the idea of not necessarily the postseason,
Speaker 2: because obviously there's a lot of money in the postseason.
Speaker 2: There's bowl money and College Football Playoff money and all
Speaker 2: sorts of TV money tied up in that. But the
Speaker 2: point of college football in twenty twenty specifically is not
Speaker 2: to name a champion. Can we agree? It's more of
Speaker 2: the season just unfolding at all. That's the big goal.
Speaker 2: As we stand in late July. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so a champion would be amazing. It would
Speaker 2: be incredible to figure out a way to have a champion,
Speaker 2: But the first step is just figuring out if there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a season. If a season can happen at all,
Speaker 2: that's the actual big win. The national champion, I think
Speaker 2: is sort of despite the fact at this point, because
Speaker 2: we don't know if it's going to be moved to spring,
Speaker 2: canceled altogether. So if we can have a full on season,
Speaker 2: that's already the win. So I'm not as concerned about
Speaker 2: naming a national champion, but I guess I've never been
Speaker 2: as concerned about naming a national champion what I would
Speaker 2: probably do in terms off I'm thinking about public health.
Speaker 2: If I'm thinking about bowl games and saying, okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is a big financial hit if we don't have
Speaker 2: bowl games, let's figure out a way to have them
Speaker 2: in a safe and responsible way. I suppose it's just
Speaker 2: taking a week after the regular season, taking that week
Speaker 2: off an additional bye week after, and I don't think
Speaker 2: we need conference championship games either. Tie to me, that
Speaker 2: just seems especially when you look at recent results. Sure,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have some years where you have Alabama Georgia
Speaker 2: and it's a huge deal and they haven't played each
Speaker 2: other during the regular season.
Speaker 1: But even when you.
Speaker 2: Look at last year, it was not a particularly exciting
Speaker 2: slate of conference championship games. It didn't really prove all
Speaker 2: that much. I know Oregon Utah was the big one
Speaker 2: in terms of Okay, these are two teams that are
Speaker 2: highly ranked, and we don't have a clear sense of
Speaker 2: who's better going in. Whereas Ohio State had already beaten Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: Clemson Virginia was sort of a clear foregone conclusion. LSU Georgia,
Speaker 2: I suppose on a certain level. But Georgia had lost
Speaker 2: to South Carolina. Oklahoma Baylor had already played each other.
Speaker 2: So I just get rid of that and we just
Speaker 2: rely on rankings. In terms of bowl games, take a
Speaker 2: week off, and then my inclination, because fans won't be
Speaker 2: traveling to the Bahamas or Tampa or Texas or Tempe
Speaker 2: or anything like that, I guess Glendale is you just
Speaker 2: have home site bowl games in whichever state is better
Speaker 2: off from a public health perspective about that site.
Speaker 1: The Duke's Male Bowl in Eugene, Oregon would be that
Speaker 1: would be something.
Speaker 2: I don't know that the Pac twelve is a tie
Speaker 2: into the Duke's Game, but yeah, that'd be fine by me.
Speaker 2: You keep uh, you keep fifty percent of travel completely
Speaker 2: off the table. And in terms of safety, there's going
Speaker 2: to be hotels available for these teams to come in
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get some a lot of northern sites
Speaker 2: hosting Bowl games, which is not ideal. But again, we're
Speaker 2: not doing this for commerce and travel and tourism. So
Speaker 2: if we're doing this purely for TV, we know that
Speaker 2: the stadiums, the home stadiums are outfitted for TV. That
Speaker 2: would be my Bowl proposal. And sorry, you know Orlando. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I mean in the case of UCF, they'll be the
Speaker 2: hosting a game before with Florida is fine, but sorry,
Speaker 2: all of these bull sites, it's not your year. You'll
Speaker 2: there'll be TV cash, but no, you're not hosting it
Speaker 2: in any of these places where two teams have to travel.
Speaker 2: And then in terms of a college football playoff tie,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Rose bul Bubble, Rose Bowl Bubble, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking we have enough hotels to house four potential teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, we could talk about Vegas. Obviously, Vegas has
Speaker 2: the hotel availability. I'd rather have it be outside if
Speaker 2: given the choice, in mid December, in a warm place outside,
Speaker 2: so hotels and outdoors, I think. I think the Rose
Speaker 2: bowls obvious, even though it's going to be very strange
Speaker 2: to watch a Rose Bowl with limited to no fans.
Speaker 2: That would be my pitch for the playoff. If there's
Speaker 2: going to be a four team playoffs, That's why I
Speaker 2: think where I'm at, or we could go four team
Speaker 2: playoff with the semis, as I mentioned, with bowl games
Speaker 2: at home sites, which I'm always in favor of, but
Speaker 2: that's a pretty distinct advantage for if the national champion. Yes,
Speaker 2: for a team, that's a pretty distinct advantage. If all
Speaker 2: of the sudden, Clemson has to travel to Norman or
Speaker 2: Alabama has to travel to Eugene or something like.
Speaker 1: That, it's first of hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: first off. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: This is sort of like a fever dream for you.
Speaker 3: Okay phrasing, but yes, just from this standpoint, we could
Speaker 3: in effect throw out the current ranking system, the current
Speaker 3: committee ranking system for a year. Sure, and I think
Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I wanted to discuss
Speaker 3: here as we get into that, I have.
Speaker 1: That down as a bullet point.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I at college football did this
Speaker 3: for a long time. There are still many folks, such
Speaker 3: as yourself who actually prefer that methodology.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It is interesting to me that we might revert back
Speaker 3: to it for a year in a season where we've
Speaker 3: got teams playing different numbers of games, a postseason that
Speaker 3: feels maybe you know, sketchy at best, where we don't
Speaker 3: really have it flesh. We're maybe playing those extra three
Speaker 3: playoff games in total. It is not feasible. We don't
Speaker 3: have a bubble site that we can do it in,
Speaker 3: we can't logistically do the bubble that. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff that we don't know at this point, but
Speaker 3: I do think that is potentially the most feasible option
Speaker 3: to revert back to where we used to be, maybe
Speaker 3: not even play a bowl game at all, and then
Speaker 3: just have folks vote on it. Maybe you can expand
Speaker 3: the pool of eligible voters, maybe we get a vote
Speaker 3: on the show. I don't know, but if you really
Speaker 3: want to engage the fan base, open up the number
Speaker 3: of folks who can vote, and let's just take a
Speaker 3: good old fashioned vote on this thing. Let's make it
Speaker 3: a one time, one time only, and then twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: hopefully we revert back to back to normal circumstances.
Speaker 1: But I think that's got to be on the table.
Speaker 2: Can I give you my mini bubble idea mini bubble
Speaker 2: A you're going back to VA mini bubble? Nope, We're
Speaker 2: still a bubble in either La Vegas. I think Vegas
Speaker 2: is a dome. It's not a retractable roof. I might
Speaker 2: be mistaken, though, and I definitely am not playing in
Speaker 2: the NFL stadium in LA that looks like molten American cheese.
Speaker 2: Wednesday Night because we don't want to keep players. You know,
Speaker 2: two weeks is a long time to try and quarantine players.
Speaker 2: You know, you start getting into a tricky territory with
Speaker 2: how professionalized it all seems. Wednesday Night, four teams, double header.
Speaker 2: Each of the games listen to this. Each of the
Speaker 2: games is only a half they only play. Each game
Speaker 2: is only two quarters long, and then Sunday or Monday
Speaker 2: shortened week, so it's like a five or six day situation.
Speaker 2: We have a national Championship game that's I mean, that's
Speaker 2: so we're not playing eight quarters and four days. We're
Speaker 2: playing six quarters and four days.
Speaker 3: So you're talking like a minor league baseball scenario where
Speaker 3: they play two seven inning games as part of a
Speaker 3: double head instead of tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean think about the importance of every
Speaker 2: snap instead of four quarters.
Speaker 1: That changes the game a little too much for my
Speaker 1: for my.
Speaker 2: Oh tie, come on, it's a different world.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: So the first scenario was a full twelve game season
Speaker 3: for some adjusted non conference opponents, obviously, and then a
Speaker 3: different number of games for others.
Speaker 2: In terms of your idea for just naming a champion,
Speaker 2: how about this, I'm saying, just staying with nine or
Speaker 2: ten games for some full twelve for others. What about
Speaker 2: we do a BCS pop up here.
Speaker 1: Who's running the computer? Jerry Palm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we got Massy, we got Peabody, we
Speaker 2: got all sorts of people that are spitting into the
Speaker 2: computer formula. What we bring it back for one last
Speaker 2: go round, Tye. Just like where we're finding we're finding
Speaker 2: born Jason Bourne in very rural Indonesia. They find them,
Speaker 2: they pull them back for one last job, Tie, one last.
Speaker 1: Job calling to the wearing him. They have no idea
Speaker 1: why they.
Speaker 2: For one last job? All right, this is this is
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. So you have BCS pop up, or
Speaker 2: we have a BCS pop up via the college Football
Speaker 2: playoff rankings. So we keep how we get the top
Speaker 2: two in place, but we're not going full top four.
Speaker 3: Let me move on to a different scenario. Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: something that something that maybe is a little bit more feasible.
Speaker 3: I don't I kind of say that tongue in cheek. Okay,
Speaker 3: a ten game fall season for everybody goes off without
Speaker 3: any real hitches. It ends in December as usual. So
Speaker 3: let's assume for a second that maybe the worst case
Speaker 3: scenario doesn't happen. Maybe teams can find a way to
Speaker 3: play a ten games slate in the fall. Maybe it
Speaker 3: starts a little late, maybe it ends a little early,
Speaker 3: but you know, buy and large ten games at more
Speaker 3: bye weeks. Sure ten games ain't bad. You can do
Speaker 3: with that. So well, we get ten games. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that really changes the equation. We just discussed
Speaker 3: the the whole uh, you know, rekindling of the BCS
Speaker 3: or allowing some of our friends in the media to
Speaker 3: vote again. Like, I don't know if that changes anything
Speaker 3: in terms of a postseason, but at a minimum, it
Speaker 3: does kind of put teams on more of a level
Speaker 3: playing field if they're all playing the same number of games,
Speaker 3: And I think it probably makes it easier to determine
Speaker 3: who a top four would be just because of that.
Speaker 2: I think it makes it easier if we're if we're
Speaker 2: presupposing ten games, are we assuming conference games only because
Speaker 2: other than the Big Twelve, who can only play nine
Speaker 2: unless they like add BYU as a probationary member of
Speaker 2: some kind for this fall, other than BYU or some
Speaker 2: other team, some other independent I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: Notre Dame assuming a full Big twelve slate something like that.
Speaker 2: We're assuming it's just full conference.
Speaker 1: I think half games to haf to do at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that in mind, we will actually have
Speaker 2: more data on at least Power five teams, but also
Speaker 2: Group of five teams because they're exclusively playing teams that
Speaker 2: are on their same talent level, schedule level, resource level, whatever.
Speaker 2: So we will actually have more data. We will know
Speaker 2: more about UTAH, we will know more about TCU, we
Speaker 2: will know more about West Virginia. Well, I guess not
Speaker 2: West Virginia. I guess if they play BYU. Sure, but
Speaker 2: we will know more about these teams than normal. So
Speaker 2: it actually makes more sense to say, let's just pick two,
Speaker 2: pick two me So, okay, Well, because if we want
Speaker 2: to minimize the number of tea because okay, if we
Speaker 2: want to minimize the number of games for public health reasons,
Speaker 2: then it makes sense to go from four teams to
Speaker 2: two at the end of the year, and everybody else
Speaker 2: just plays Bowl games. But we're talking about a very
Speaker 2: limited number of teams. But because we have more data points,
Speaker 2: it's easier to say Clemson is definitely deserving or undeserving
Speaker 2: as we see the rest, as we see more ACC
Speaker 2: games played than normal, or Washington State is definitely undeserving,
Speaker 2: or Washington State is more deserving because of what they
Speaker 2: did playing against ten PAC twelve teams, whereas they normally
Speaker 2: play against nine and they're you know, they're not inflating
Speaker 2: themselves by playing you know, Sacramento State or Northern Arizona
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think this would be the target. Honestly,
Speaker 3: if they're going to try and shoot for anything in
Speaker 3: the fall ten games slate, minimal hitches, mostly conference games.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can find some way to squeeze in a
Speaker 3: non conference opponent. I don't know that to me represents
Speaker 3: the best possible case scenario here. Again, I think it's
Speaker 3: wishful thinking, but you know, I think that would be
Speaker 3: the target because financially, again, ten is that number you
Speaker 3: keep hearing, right, they would try for ten if at
Speaker 3: all possible.
Speaker 2: But more bye weeks. So it's two more bye weeks
Speaker 2: and maybe altered beginning and end. What does Notre Dame
Speaker 2: do in this situation. They're just going acc and G five.
Speaker 3: I guess they're going to see who they can bolt on. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you know again, go and listen to the conversation with
Speaker 3: Pete from a week ago, and I think he's right.
Speaker 3: I don't think Notre Dame's going to find much difficulty
Speaker 3: when it comes to seeking out new opponents. Someone from
Speaker 3: the group of five as will want to play Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: They'll find opponents, but it's just a matter of, you know,
Speaker 3: how does it work with the rest of their schedule
Speaker 3: and does it help or hurt them?
Speaker 1: If and when there's a postseason. A lot of variables there.
Speaker 2: How many ACC teams do they generally play in a
Speaker 2: season six? They play six. So if we're talking about
Speaker 2: an ACC slate in which Notre Dame goes six and oh,
Speaker 2: and then they fill in everything else with Ball State
Speaker 2: and Nevada and whoever, and they go ten and oh
Speaker 2: with four G five schools on their schedule. And we're
Speaker 2: talking about a crazy hypothetical here, but it's tough to
Speaker 2: put them into anything given that scheduling advantage.
Speaker 3: But if they go ten and oh, they will have
Speaker 3: beaten Clemson. Okay, so that's probably the singular best win
Speaker 3: of the season by any team if they knock off Clemson.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, there's other very very good teams in
Speaker 2: college football, and the weekend week out grind of playing
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve Pac twelve SEC as opposed to
Speaker 2: playing sixty percent of a Power five schedule, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think you probably keep them out.
Speaker 3: So here here are two of the odd scenarios that
Speaker 3: I think could be very realistic as well. They start
Speaker 3: the season expecting a ten games slate, but because of
Speaker 3: case spiking or because of who knows really what's going
Speaker 3: to happen, you have a more of a mixed season,
Speaker 3: so this is a little bit like the first scenario,
Speaker 3: or you've got an asymmetrical season, some teams playing more
Speaker 3: games than others. But what if that number of games
Speaker 3: is more akin to what we discussed a week ago.
Speaker 3: What if it's like five games.
Speaker 1: What if it's seven games.
Speaker 3: What if one team plays five games, another team plays ten?
Speaker 3: How I don't see how you could have an actual
Speaker 3: postseason in that scenario. I think it would have to
Speaker 3: come down to a vote. It would be a season
Speaker 3: with an asterisk, and they'd have to figure out some
Speaker 3: way to kind of denote this one in the record books.
Speaker 3: Because five games or ten, it's it's almost impossible to compare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're having five versus ten, you just name
Speaker 2: a champ and we argue about it for however many months,
Speaker 2: just because five and seven game seasons for teams means
Speaker 2: something probably went pretty wrong health wise. And so to say,
Speaker 2: how do we get around this and say, Okay, Texas
Speaker 2: Tech only played six games, Alabama played ten, Wisconsin play eight,
Speaker 2: there's been a big outbreak in West Texas. But because
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is pretty promising, let's figure out if we
Speaker 2: can get them in a big bowl game. It just
Speaker 2: it feels is I don't know if ikey is the
Speaker 2: coolest word to use here, but it doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: it's going in the right direction in terms of the
Speaker 2: spirit of finding a college football champion.
Speaker 3: Now, from the standpoint of the fan, Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: I've been saying that the spring season, to me, is
Speaker 3: the most interesting possibility. Okay, if we are keeping this
Speaker 3: though at least the first part of this conversation in
Speaker 3: the fall, I think the next most interesting scenario would
Speaker 3: be a revised and shortened fall season. Maybe it is
Speaker 3: truly like we discussed a week ago, five to seven
Speaker 3: games slate, it ends in early December, you got more
Speaker 3: bye weeks. Maybe there's delay in there.
Speaker 1: It's a very.
Speaker 3: Weird season, very weird season. But with each team playing
Speaker 3: only five games, that is a lot of lively college
Speaker 3: football conversation out on the subreddit, on every message board
Speaker 3: known to man. Every college football writer is going to
Speaker 3: be jumping to, you know, unsupported conclusions after watching one
Speaker 3: or two games of a particular team that from you know,
Speaker 3: college football is so tribal. What makes it great is
Speaker 3: that argument, And I think that's why folks again, such
Speaker 3: as yourself, prefer that argument at the end of the
Speaker 3: year as opposed to you know, some body voting on
Speaker 3: it and putting a couple of teams in the playoff
Speaker 3: to duke it out. That argument would certainly be rekindled
Speaker 3: if each team only played five games.
Speaker 2: It's very hard to go undefeated over twelve games.
Speaker 1: It's not that hard to go undefeated over five.
Speaker 2: And I understand that the quality of the competition, and
Speaker 2: we discussed this on our Banger show, is going to
Speaker 2: be heightened without having a couple of tune up games
Speaker 2: or the ability to to navigate with bye weeks and
Speaker 2: having you know, penciled in bye weeks if you're the
Speaker 2: SEC and scheduling teams from the Southern Conference later in
Speaker 2: the season to just sort of even out the schedule.
Speaker 2: I understand it's a more difficult five game stretch than
Speaker 2: it normally would be, but we could have a lot
Speaker 2: of self congratulatory national championship declarations if we're selecting two
Speaker 2: teams at the end of a five to seven game
Speaker 2: season to go and play in a national championship game,
Speaker 2: or four teams to play in a playoff and a
Speaker 2: five and zero team is not named in that Power five,
Speaker 2: G five whatever. Think about how many teams are going
Speaker 2: to name themselves national champs. Oh yeah, here for it, Tye.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely positively here for because everybody's going to
Speaker 2: be left out.
Speaker 1: It's great. What happens if there is no season at all?
Speaker 2: Well you still Pit, It's still Pitt National champ. If
Speaker 2: there's no season, then we just move forward. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you do in terms of if there's no season,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a draft and we're gonna lose promising
Speaker 2: junior's red shirt sophomores to the NFL Draft without playing
Speaker 2: a final season, which is a pretty significant bummer. Sure,
Speaker 2: But in terms of a postseason, I could see, okay,
Speaker 2: I could see perhaps rivals scheduling a one off in
Speaker 2: the late spring as just a crazy out and out
Speaker 2: maybe for an it's a one game season. Essentially, we
Speaker 2: have the Apple Cup, we have Oregon Oregon State, we
Speaker 2: have the Iron Bowl, we have and maybe it's a
Speaker 2: chance to rekindle. Maybe it's just like, okay, one off,
Speaker 2: we have Texas, Texas, A and M we revisit some
Speaker 2: of that. It's not a season, but we say okay
Speaker 2: with schools that were within and I know I screwed
Speaker 2: up my driving distances and times before I think I
Speaker 2: looked up two schools that were probably in the middle
Speaker 2: of a traffic zone. You know, it was probably backing
Speaker 2: up against Atlanta traffic or something. But I would my
Speaker 2: solution be, no season, Let's just play a every and
Speaker 2: everything on the line, pride filled rivalry weekend Sinco to
Speaker 2: Mayo weekend or something like that, or all of may No.
Speaker 3: I I like the idea teams have scheduled scrimmages with
Speaker 3: one another in the spring before that. That's not unheard of.
Speaker 3: So I was hoping you would bring that up because
Speaker 3: I have seen some conjecture that that could be a
Speaker 3: potential avenue if things really go sideways, that that could
Speaker 3: potentially be an option to just have to think about
Speaker 3: game season against a rival.
Speaker 2: Think about teams that have a lot of not a lot,
Speaker 2: but multiple legitimate rivals. So okay, so if we're going
Speaker 2: to go through the biggest rivalries in the sport, we're
Speaker 2: obviously going to say Alabama Auburn a no brainer. Play
Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl on this Sinko to Mayo weekend, Sinkle
Speaker 2: to Tyo. If I may sure single to Tyo weekend.
Speaker 2: We have the Iron Bowl, But then where does that
Speaker 2: leave Georgia. They don't get the Auburn Games. So Georgia
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. I suppose you have Clemson South Florirolina, Georgia Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Georgia Florida makes sense, You're right, Georgia Florida. They play
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville wherever. Okay, So we have Georgia Florida, and
Speaker 2: then Clemson South Carolina, but then Florida State Miami because
Speaker 2: we're not gonna have Florida Florida State. So I'm just
Speaker 2: saying there's a number of really interesting dominoes having in
Speaker 2: the Northwest. I would rather see. As an Oregon fan,
Speaker 2: I'd rather see Oregon Washington. I think there's more bad
Speaker 2: blood there than either Oregon Oregon State or the Apple Cup.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's probably safer to keep any I know, Washington State
Speaker 2: is pretty far east. We have the big Game Stanford
Speaker 2: Cali of UCLA USC no travel there, Texas, Oklahoma. I
Speaker 2: would suppose after the last couple of years, if we're
Speaker 2: taking away Alabama from LSU, the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: at least two years ago. It was a crazy game.
Speaker 2: So I guess LSU A and m No. I know
Speaker 2: there's LSU Ole miss history, but I think that's probably
Speaker 2: the way to go there. Big ten, you have Michigan,
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I suppose Wisconsin, Minnesota you play for the acts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so Penn State, Michigan State, Grant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Penn.
Speaker 2: State, Michigan State. Who else in the ACC? What else
Speaker 2: is movie like Pitt?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I would love for it to be Pitt West Virginia
Speaker 2: and just do it based on proximity.
Speaker 1: You got options.
Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't come to that, but I've I've
Speaker 3: seen a lot written about that lately that potentially that
Speaker 3: would be on the table.
Speaker 1: Everything state.
Speaker 2: Who'd Oklahoma State play Iowa State? I mean, you have
Speaker 2: you have at least history there recently within the last decade.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma would have to pick between Texas and Oklahoma State,
Speaker 3: and they'd.
Speaker 1: Probably pick you gotta pick t wh would you rather be?
Speaker 1: If you got gotta be Texas, you gotta be Texas.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, So then you have TCU Baylor. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine? I mean you'd probably have to space it
Speaker 2: over the month. It couldn't be Synco to TiO, but
Speaker 2: that'd be a hell of a may which is already
Speaker 2: an amazing sports month in normal times.
Speaker 3: It could be Mayo to TiO, Mayo to TiO. There
Speaker 3: you go, that's actually getting me pretty worked up. Tie,
Speaker 3: I like, well, well, let's work on a helmet schedule
Speaker 3: for that sixty five games.
Speaker 1: Let's figure it out. Yea.
Speaker 3: So now we're fully on the spring side of things here.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I have made no bones about the fact that I
Speaker 3: think this is where it is headed.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: A couple scenarios here they actually close mostly mimic what
Speaker 3: we are or what we've already discussed in the fall. Right,
Speaker 3: What if there's a ten game spring schedule or a
Speaker 3: five to seven game spring schedule. So what I've heard
Speaker 3: a lot of lately is that if they do it
Speaker 3: in the spring, they would probably shoot for a ten
Speaker 3: game slate, that the twelve game thing would probably be
Speaker 3: out of the picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, each team would shoot for ten games. I have
Speaker 1: seen some.
Speaker 3: Difference of opinion when it comes to when they would
Speaker 3: start that season, but basically sometime after the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: It might end at some point in like early May,
Speaker 3: at which point they would try to stage some sort
Speaker 3: of some sort of regular, quote unquote regular postseason. I
Speaker 3: saw that the gentleman who runs the Liberty Bowl made
Speaker 3: a comment saying, in effect, if the season moved, the
Speaker 3: Liberty Bowl would try to move with it and try
Speaker 3: to come up with some way.
Speaker 1: The Liberty Bowl wants that, sure, of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, who knows if other Bowl games
Speaker 3: would follow suit, but it it would present a logistical challenge.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. All I know is that's at least one
Speaker 3: Bowl chairman who says, yeah, sure, we'd be interested in
Speaker 3: it if it if it made sense. So you play
Speaker 3: a full ten game slate, presumably in the springtime, and
Speaker 3: I hope in the springtime we have this thing better
Speaker 3: under control. Maybe you can get more fans in the stands,
Speaker 3: and more fans in the stands at home sites. Probably
Speaker 3: means more fans in the stands or at least some
Speaker 3: fans in the stands at bowl games as well. So
Speaker 3: I think if you've got a ten game spring season,
Speaker 3: the most likely scenario here would be that they try
Speaker 3: to try to pull this thing off like they normally would.
Speaker 3: Maybe there aren't like forty eight bowl games or however
Speaker 3: many we're up to now. But I got to believe
Speaker 3: they would try to do a playoff. I got to
Speaker 3: believe that they would try to do some semblance of
Speaker 3: a modified Bowl season as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. My concern would be packing airports
Speaker 2: and planes for games that ultimately mean even less than usual. Why,
Speaker 2: you know, why do Notre Dame fans need to be
Speaker 2: traveling to New York from the Midwest for the pin
Speaker 2: Straight Bowl, even if it's a half empty Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 2: Why are we traveling to the Liberty Bowl from Louisiana?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's if we have drivable sites and
Speaker 2: it's drivable bowl tie ins, and we just moved the
Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl for a year to I don't know, we
Speaker 2: move the Liberty Bowl to Miami, we move the Liberty
Speaker 2: Bowl to you know, in a place where we can
Speaker 2: have a number of Bowl games in the same stadium
Speaker 2: over a given amount of time. I still, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It still strikes me as the actual least important thing
Speaker 2: here is making sure and I understand from a school
Speaker 2: payout perspective it's important, but a lot, you know, having
Speaker 2: the New Mexico Bowl, having the the I know, some
Speaker 2: of these the Bowls about thet you all don't exist, sorry,
Speaker 2: New Mexico having you know, having minic Care, having you know,
Speaker 2: minu Key, having all of these Bowl games which sort
Speaker 2: of exists because their TV shows go off happen. I
Speaker 2: don't know. It strikes me as not keeping with the
Speaker 2: spirit of trying to modify the season for the better.
Speaker 1: Tony the Tiger would like a word, sir, Sorry, Duke's mayo.
Speaker 3: Well, I think if we get a ten games slate,
Speaker 3: they're going to try it, but it will be modified.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to have to be modified.
Speaker 3: I don't think every Bowl game can can't afford to
Speaker 3: make that move. And you know, we already dressed sort
Speaker 3: of this scenario in which we've got a five to
Speaker 3: seven games slate.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't get ten in.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's more virus to deal with, maybe there's delays
Speaker 3: along the way. Five to seven games slate again, it
Speaker 3: ends like late spring something something akin to that. If
Speaker 3: you have a five games slate and then it just
Speaker 3: come back to this point for a.
Speaker 1: Second, Yeah, are you able to stage playoff?
Speaker 2: Probably a minimum nine games to have a full fledged
Speaker 2: playoff where it's just like, okay, we were able to
Speaker 2: play nine college football games in the fall or the spring.
Speaker 2: So we've done something right in terms of protection, and
Speaker 2: we haven't had to shut down the season because of
Speaker 2: anything catastrophic. We've earned a playoff five games. I mean,
Speaker 2: I am now grating, gravitating much towards just anarchy, chaos
Speaker 2: of only playing the season in October, playing two games
Speaker 2: a week, two quarters each game. That's what I want, Ty,
Speaker 2: I want express rules. I want personal pan college football.
Speaker 3: Well, the trans perfect Music City Bowl or a tropical
Speaker 3: Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl.
Speaker 1: YEP, would be sorely disappointed.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 1: I read good friends over at at Duke's Mayo.
Speaker 2: But do you have a Mayo preference?
Speaker 1: Brand wise? I'm not a big Mayo guy. We talked
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad. Just good males out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got Japanese mayo qupi. I think it's how it's
Speaker 2: pronounced Mayo. Helman's Duke's is pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a palette of Duke's Mayo ship
Speaker 3: to my house, aren't I.
Speaker 2: That's fine secret weapon for grilled cheese tie. If you
Speaker 2: like a good grilled cheese spread some mao on each
Speaker 2: on each of those uh oh pieces of bread. Stop
Speaker 2: oh stop it caramelizes real nicely got the oil in there.
Speaker 2: I don't care what it moliza is whipped egg whites
Speaker 2: and oil tie.
Speaker 1: Come on, no no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: Right in cellverbal at gmail dot com, let us know
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the matter.
Speaker 1: What would you like to see in a postseason in
Speaker 1: any of these scenarios? Again, we're talking maybe some wish
Speaker 1: wishful thinking, but full twelve games slate, maybe a ten
Speaker 1: games slate, maybe only five to seven games, different teams
Speaker 1: playing different amounts of games. You know, we've had weird
Speaker 1: suggestions that have come into the inbox.
Speaker 3: I'd love to read more. I'm just so fascinated by
Speaker 3: this scenario. I am with you ultimately. You know, just
Speaker 3: from a fan interest standpoint, anything different is at least interesting.
Speaker 3: We always see a little bit of a drop off
Speaker 3: towards the end of the year, and presumably that's because
Speaker 3: folks they root for a team and then they're out
Speaker 3: of it and then they stop paying attention.
Speaker 1: That happens to a lot of us, right and we
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: We don't get as many downloads towards the latter half
Speaker 3: of the season. That's just the normal course of doing
Speaker 3: business here on a podcast. But you introduce a quirk
Speaker 3: like an asymmetrical season, like a really asymmetrical season, or
Speaker 3: move it to the spring, or some sort of flex
Speaker 3: scheduling scenario.
Speaker 1: That to me is very interesting.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to speak for all of our listeners,
Speaker 3: but I think I can speak for most of them
Speaker 3: when I say that that is worth tuning in to
Speaker 3: to listen to more of and hopefully to call the
Speaker 3: reverb line about, just because it's so different, it's so unprecedented.
Speaker 3: We'll never have it again, hopefully, and you know, it
Speaker 3: could make for a very interesting outcome with a lot
Speaker 3: of debate.
Speaker 2: I'm not po you can correct me on this, because
Speaker 2: this I think is in your home state, the Little
Speaker 2: League World Series Williamsport, Pennsylvania. Of course, we have some
Speaker 2: sort of pseudo Little League World Series rule where we
Speaker 2: have five conference games and then whoever is determined to
Speaker 2: be the champion, and maybe it's like a World Cup
Speaker 2: element to it, so it's like points four points against,
Speaker 2: and you get more points for road winds and road scoring.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: We sort of come up with a traveling team scenario.
Speaker 2: I assume you're familiar with how you know sometimes in
Speaker 2: local sports leagues. You know, it'll be a little league,
Speaker 2: baseball league, I guess, just little league, and we have
Speaker 2: all these teams playing, and then at the end of
Speaker 2: the season, there's an all Star game and all Star team,
Speaker 2: and then that all Star team becomes the traveling team
Speaker 2: you take on other little leagues, right, you know you
Speaker 2: probably did that with basketball, and so at the end
Speaker 2: of the season in the way that we have and
Speaker 2: I know it's like, you know, the team from Tom's
Speaker 2: River is the Northeast, right, It's it's the same team.
Speaker 2: It's not like they've drafted the best players from upstate
Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey and Connecticut whatever.
Speaker 1: But what if we get that, what if at the
Speaker 1: end of the year it's a AU all over again.
Speaker 2: Correct, we have AAU college football where okay, let's say
Speaker 2: Mario cristaball and Oregon go five and oh nobody else
Speaker 2: is undefeated. The Pac twelve beats itself up. But then
Speaker 2: Mario Christibaal says, okay, I'm I'm now the coach, and
Speaker 2: I have a limit to the number of Oregon players
Speaker 2: I can select for the West team. So he selects
Speaker 2: you know, Pinay Sewl and CJ. Verdell and whoever on
Speaker 2: their defense, cave On Thibadeau, and that's that. You can't
Speaker 2: select more than eight players from any team, you know,
Speaker 2: and they set a geographical boundary. So this is how
Speaker 2: you get to go from five standard season games and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we then have an eight team
Speaker 2: regional playoff, an eight team regional playoff that's inclusive. So
Speaker 2: then you get buy in because Okay, maybe there's a
Speaker 2: couple of Fresno State players on this team. Maybe there's
Speaker 2: a couple of San Diego State players, maybe there's a
Speaker 2: couple of you have ASU players, you have Utah players,
Speaker 2: and then they're taking on and there's some sort of
Speaker 2: G five minimum that you have to take a certain
Speaker 2: number of G five players from your region as well.
Speaker 3: Right in, celiverbo at gmail dot com, did you see
Speaker 3: that Trevor Lawrence got again it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems early. Yeah, it's a little early.
Speaker 2: But best of luck. I mean this genuinely best of
Speaker 2: luck to him. But I speak for myself when I
Speaker 2: say Trevor, that's it. That's my full solid verbal.
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Speaker 2: I think we're probably gonna go to a more reality
Speaker 2: based writ I think so.
Speaker 1: I think so, I think yeah, I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the move. But I enjoyed this.
Speaker 3: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,
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