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Speaker 3: Let's just empty the clip here, Dan, anything else that

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Speaker 2: Yes, you did see this shirt and you liked it

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Speaker 2: You said it's pretty risk and we've never gone here

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Speaker 2: conceptually in terms of what this shirt shows and bears.

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Speaker 2: But you said it's a new time for the Solid Verbal,

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Speaker 2: does that. That's what I think your words were. So

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, with that being said, let's just jump

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. We have bricking news. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: you really went for it. There is this the the

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Speaker 3: This is this is the many cups of coffee thing

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Speaker 3: California has announced your your native homeland, Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you talking state or Berkeley? Because there's a

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Speaker 2: No, they're just they are regretful, but they're going to

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Speaker 3: What we did a week ago was we did our

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Speaker 3: If you've got an abbreviated season, how do you determine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always going to be pit. It's just going

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Speaker 1: Dan? Have you thought about this? Do we do bowls?

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Speaker 2: You keep uh, you keep fifty percent of travel completely

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Speaker 2: going to be a four team playoffs, That's why I

437
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Speaker 2: think where I'm at, or we could go four team

438
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Speaker 2: playoff with the semis, as I mentioned, with bowl games

439
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Speaker 2: at home sites, which I'm always in favor of, but

440
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Speaker 2: that's a pretty distinct advantage for if the national champion. Yes,

441
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Speaker 2: for a team, that's a pretty distinct advantage. If all

442
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Speaker 2: of the sudden, Clemson has to travel to Norman or

443
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Speaker 2: Alabama has to travel to Eugene or something like.

444
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Speaker 1: That, it's first of hold on, hold on, hold on,

445
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Speaker 1: first off. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.

446
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Speaker 3: This is sort of like a fever dream for you.

447
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Speaker 3: Okay phrasing, but yes, just from this standpoint, we could

448
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Speaker 3: in effect throw out the current ranking system, the current

449
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Speaker 3: committee ranking system for a year. Sure, and I think

450
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Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I wanted to discuss

451
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Speaker 3: here as we get into that, I have.

452
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Speaker 1: That down as a bullet point.

453
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Speaker 3: You know, I think I at college football did this

454
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Speaker 3: for a long time. There are still many folks, such

455
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Speaker 3: as yourself who actually prefer that methodology.

456
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

457
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Speaker 3: It is interesting to me that we might revert back

458
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Speaker 3: to it for a year in a season where we've

459
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Speaker 3: got teams playing different numbers of games, a postseason that

460
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: feels maybe you know, sketchy at best, where we don't

461
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Speaker 3: really have it flesh. We're maybe playing those extra three

462
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Speaker 3: playoff games in total. It is not feasible. We don't

463
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Speaker 3: have a bubble site that we can do it in,

464
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Speaker 3: we can't logistically do the bubble that. There's a lot

465
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Speaker 3: of stuff that we don't know at this point, but

466
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Speaker 3: I do think that is potentially the most feasible option

467
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Speaker 3: to revert back to where we used to be, maybe

468
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Speaker 3: not even play a bowl game at all, and then

469
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Speaker 3: just have folks vote on it. Maybe you can expand

470
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Speaker 3: the pool of eligible voters, maybe we get a vote

471
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Speaker 3: on the show. I don't know, but if you really

472
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Speaker 3: want to engage the fan base, open up the number

473
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Speaker 3: of folks who can vote, and let's just take a

474
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Speaker 3: good old fashioned vote on this thing. Let's make it

475
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Speaker 3: a one time, one time only, and then twenty twenty one,

476
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Speaker 3: hopefully we revert back to back to normal circumstances.

477
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Speaker 1: But I think that's got to be on the table.

478
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Speaker 2: Can I give you my mini bubble idea mini bubble

479
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Speaker 2: A you're going back to VA mini bubble? Nope, We're

480
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: still a bubble in either La Vegas. I think Vegas

481
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Speaker 2: is a dome. It's not a retractable roof. I might

482
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Speaker 2: be mistaken, though, and I definitely am not playing in

483
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Speaker 2: the NFL stadium in LA that looks like molten American cheese.

484
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: Wednesday Night because we don't want to keep players. You know,

485
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: two weeks is a long time to try and quarantine players.

486
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Speaker 2: You know, you start getting into a tricky territory with

487
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Speaker 2: how professionalized it all seems. Wednesday Night, four teams, double header.

488
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Speaker 2: Each of the games listen to this. Each of the

489
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Speaker 2: games is only a half they only play. Each game

490
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Speaker 2: is only two quarters long, and then Sunday or Monday

491
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: shortened week, so it's like a five or six day situation.

492
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Speaker 2: We have a national Championship game that's I mean, that's

493
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Speaker 2: so we're not playing eight quarters and four days. We're

494
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Speaker 2: playing six quarters and four days.

495
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Speaker 3: So you're talking like a minor league baseball scenario where

496
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Speaker 3: they play two seven inning games as part of a

497
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Speaker 3: double head instead of tonight.

498
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean think about the importance of every

499
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Speaker 2: snap instead of four quarters.

500
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Speaker 1: That changes the game a little too much for my

501
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Speaker 1: for my.

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Speaker 2: Oh tie, come on, it's a different world.

503
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Speaker 1: All right.

504
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Speaker 3: So the first scenario was a full twelve game season

505
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Speaker 3: for some adjusted non conference opponents, obviously, and then a

506
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Speaker 3: different number of games for others.

507
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Speaker 2: In terms of your idea for just naming a champion,

508
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Speaker 2: how about this, I'm saying, just staying with nine or

509
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Speaker 2: ten games for some full twelve for others. What about

510
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: we do a BCS pop up here.

511
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Speaker 1: Who's running the computer? Jerry Palm?

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we got Massy, we got Peabody, we

513
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: got all sorts of people that are spitting into the

514
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Speaker 2: computer formula. What we bring it back for one last

515
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: go round, Tye. Just like where we're finding we're finding

516
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: born Jason Bourne in very rural Indonesia. They find them,

517
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Speaker 2: they pull them back for one last job, Tie, one last.

518
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Speaker 1: Job calling to the wearing him. They have no idea

519
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: why they.

520
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Speaker 2: For one last job? All right, this is this is

521
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Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. So you have BCS pop up, or

522
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: we have a BCS pop up via the college Football

523
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: playoff rankings. So we keep how we get the top

524
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Speaker 2: two in place, but we're not going full top four.

525
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Speaker 3: Let me move on to a different scenario. Okay, all right,

526
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Speaker 3: something that something that maybe is a little bit more feasible.

527
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Speaker 3: I don't I kind of say that tongue in cheek. Okay,

528
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: a ten game fall season for everybody goes off without

529
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Speaker 3: any real hitches. It ends in December as usual. So

530
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Speaker 3: let's assume for a second that maybe the worst case

531
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Speaker 3: scenario doesn't happen. Maybe teams can find a way to

532
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Speaker 3: play a ten games slate in the fall. Maybe it

533
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: starts a little late, maybe it ends a little early,

534
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Speaker 3: but you know, buy and large ten games at more

535
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Speaker 3: bye weeks. Sure ten games ain't bad. You can do

536
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Speaker 3: with that. So well, we get ten games. I don't

537
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Speaker 3: know if that really changes the equation. We just discussed

538
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: the the whole uh, you know, rekindling of the BCS

539
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: or allowing some of our friends in the media to

540
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Speaker 3: vote again. Like, I don't know if that changes anything

541
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Speaker 3: in terms of a postseason, but at a minimum, it

542
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Speaker 3: does kind of put teams on more of a level

543
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 3: playing field if they're all playing the same number of games,

544
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Speaker 3: And I think it probably makes it easier to determine

545
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Speaker 3: who a top four would be just because of that.

546
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Speaker 2: I think it makes it easier if we're if we're

547
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Speaker 2: presupposing ten games, are we assuming conference games only because

548
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Speaker 2: other than the Big Twelve, who can only play nine

549
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: unless they like add BYU as a probationary member of

550
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Speaker 2: some kind for this fall, other than BYU or some

551
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: other team, some other independent I don't know if it's

552
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: Notre Dame assuming a full Big twelve slate something like that.

553
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: We're assuming it's just full conference.

554
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Speaker 1: I think half games to haf to do at this point.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that in mind, we will actually have

556
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Speaker 2: more data on at least Power five teams, but also

557
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Group of five teams because they're exclusively playing teams that

558
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: are on their same talent level, schedule level, resource level, whatever.

559
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: So we will actually have more data. We will know

560
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: more about UTAH, we will know more about TCU, we

561
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Speaker 2: will know more about West Virginia. Well, I guess not

562
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: West Virginia. I guess if they play BYU. Sure, but

563
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: we will know more about these teams than normal. So

564
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: it actually makes more sense to say, let's just pick two,

565
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: pick two me So, okay, Well, because if we want

566
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Speaker 2: to minimize the number of tea because okay, if we

567
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Speaker 2: want to minimize the number of games for public health reasons,

568
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Speaker 2: then it makes sense to go from four teams to

569
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Speaker 2: two at the end of the year, and everybody else

570
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: just plays Bowl games. But we're talking about a very

571
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: limited number of teams. But because we have more data points,

572
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: it's easier to say Clemson is definitely deserving or undeserving

573
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: as we see the rest, as we see more ACC

574
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: games played than normal, or Washington State is definitely undeserving,

575
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: or Washington State is more deserving because of what they

576
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: did playing against ten PAC twelve teams, whereas they normally

577
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: play against nine and they're you know, they're not inflating

578
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: themselves by playing you know, Sacramento State or Northern Arizona

579
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: or something like that.

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think this would be the target. Honestly,

581
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Speaker 3: if they're going to try and shoot for anything in

582
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Speaker 3: the fall ten games slate, minimal hitches, mostly conference games.

583
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Speaker 3: Maybe you can find some way to squeeze in a

584
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Speaker 3: non conference opponent. I don't know that to me represents

585
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: the best possible case scenario here. Again, I think it's

586
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Speaker 3: wishful thinking, but you know, I think that would be

587
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: the target because financially, again, ten is that number you

588
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 3: keep hearing, right, they would try for ten if at

589
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: all possible.

590
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Speaker 2: But more bye weeks. So it's two more bye weeks

591
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: and maybe altered beginning and end. What does Notre Dame

592
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: do in this situation. They're just going acc and G five.

593
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: I guess they're going to see who they can bolt on. Yeah, yeah, okay,

594
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: you know again, go and listen to the conversation with

595
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: Pete from a week ago, and I think he's right.

596
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: I don't think Notre Dame's going to find much difficulty

597
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: when it comes to seeking out new opponents. Someone from

598
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: the group of five as will want to play Notre Dame.

599
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: They'll find opponents, but it's just a matter of, you know,

600
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Speaker 3: how does it work with the rest of their schedule

601
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Speaker 3: and does it help or hurt them?

602
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Speaker 1: If and when there's a postseason. A lot of variables there.

603
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: How many ACC teams do they generally play in a

604
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: season six? They play six. So if we're talking about

605
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Speaker 2: an ACC slate in which Notre Dame goes six and oh,

606
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: and then they fill in everything else with Ball State

607
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: and Nevada and whoever, and they go ten and oh

608
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: with four G five schools on their schedule. And we're

609
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: talking about a crazy hypothetical here, but it's tough to

610
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Speaker 2: put them into anything given that scheduling advantage.

611
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Speaker 3: But if they go ten and oh, they will have

612
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Speaker 3: beaten Clemson. Okay, so that's probably the singular best win

613
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: of the season by any team if they knock off Clemson.

614
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: I don't know.

615
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, there's other very very good teams in

616
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: college football, and the weekend week out grind of playing

617
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve Pac twelve SEC as opposed to

618
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: playing sixty percent of a Power five schedule, I don't know.

619
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Speaker 2: I think I think you probably keep them out.

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Speaker 3: So here here are two of the odd scenarios that

621
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Speaker 3: I think could be very realistic as well. They start

622
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: the season expecting a ten games slate, but because of

623
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: case spiking or because of who knows really what's going

624
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: to happen, you have a more of a mixed season,

625
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: so this is a little bit like the first scenario,

626
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: or you've got an asymmetrical season, some teams playing more

627
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: games than others. But what if that number of games

628
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: is more akin to what we discussed a week ago.

629
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Speaker 3: What if it's like five games.

630
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: What if it's seven games.

631
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: What if one team plays five games, another team plays ten?

632
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: How I don't see how you could have an actual

633
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: postseason in that scenario. I think it would have to

634
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 3: come down to a vote. It would be a season

635
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: with an asterisk, and they'd have to figure out some

636
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: way to kind of denote this one in the record books.

637
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Because five games or ten, it's it's almost impossible to compare.

638
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're having five versus ten, you just name

639
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: a champ and we argue about it for however many months,

640
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: just because five and seven game seasons for teams means

641
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: something probably went pretty wrong health wise. And so to say,

642
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: how do we get around this and say, Okay, Texas

643
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: Tech only played six games, Alabama played ten, Wisconsin play eight,

644
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: there's been a big outbreak in West Texas. But because

645
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is pretty promising, let's figure out if we

646
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: can get them in a big bowl game. It just

647
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: it feels is I don't know if ikey is the

648
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: coolest word to use here, but it doesn't feel like

649
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: it's going in the right direction in terms of the

650
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: spirit of finding a college football champion.

651
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: Now, from the standpoint of the fan, Okay, you know,

652
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: I've been saying that the spring season, to me, is

653
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: the most interesting possibility. Okay, if we are keeping this

654
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: though at least the first part of this conversation in

655
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: the fall, I think the next most interesting scenario would

656
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: be a revised and shortened fall season. Maybe it is

657
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: truly like we discussed a week ago, five to seven

658
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: games slate, it ends in early December, you got more

659
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: bye weeks. Maybe there's delay in there.

660
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Speaker 1: It's a very.

661
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: Weird season, very weird season. But with each team playing

662
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: only five games, that is a lot of lively college

663
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: football conversation out on the subreddit, on every message board

664
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: known to man. Every college football writer is going to

665
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: be jumping to, you know, unsupported conclusions after watching one

666
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: or two games of a particular team that from you know,

667
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: college football is so tribal. What makes it great is

668
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: that argument, And I think that's why folks again, such

669
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: as yourself, prefer that argument at the end of the

670
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: year as opposed to you know, some body voting on

671
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: it and putting a couple of teams in the playoff

672
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: to duke it out. That argument would certainly be rekindled

673
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: if each team only played five games.

674
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: It's very hard to go undefeated over twelve games.

675
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: It's not that hard to go undefeated over five.

676
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: And I understand that the quality of the competition, and

677
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: we discussed this on our Banger show, is going to

678
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: be heightened without having a couple of tune up games

679
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: or the ability to to navigate with bye weeks and

680
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: having you know, penciled in bye weeks if you're the

681
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: SEC and scheduling teams from the Southern Conference later in

682
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: the season to just sort of even out the schedule.

683
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: I understand it's a more difficult five game stretch than

684
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: it normally would be, but we could have a lot

685
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: of self congratulatory national championship declarations if we're selecting two

686
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 2: teams at the end of a five to seven game

687
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: season to go and play in a national championship game,

688
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: or four teams to play in a playoff and a

689
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: five and zero team is not named in that Power five,

690
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: G five whatever. Think about how many teams are going

691
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: to name themselves national champs. Oh yeah, here for it, Tye.

692
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: I am absolutely positively here for because everybody's going to

693
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: be left out.

694
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Speaker 1: It's great. What happens if there is no season at all?

695
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: Well you still Pit, It's still Pitt National champ. If

696
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: there's no season, then we just move forward. I don't

697
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: know what you do in terms of if there's no season,

698
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a draft and we're gonna lose promising

699
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: junior's red shirt sophomores to the NFL Draft without playing

700
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: a final season, which is a pretty significant bummer. Sure,

701
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: But in terms of a postseason, I could see, okay,

702
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: I could see perhaps rivals scheduling a one off in

703
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: the late spring as just a crazy out and out

704
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: maybe for an it's a one game season. Essentially, we

705
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: have the Apple Cup, we have Oregon Oregon State, we

706
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: have the Iron Bowl, we have and maybe it's a

707
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: chance to rekindle. Maybe it's just like, okay, one off,

708
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: we have Texas, Texas, A and M we revisit some

709
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: of that. It's not a season, but we say okay

710
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: with schools that were within and I know I screwed

711
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: up my driving distances and times before I think I

712
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: looked up two schools that were probably in the middle

713
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 2: of a traffic zone. You know, it was probably backing

714
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: up against Atlanta traffic or something. But I would my

715
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: solution be, no season, Let's just play a every and

716
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: everything on the line, pride filled rivalry weekend Sinco to

717
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: Mayo weekend or something like that, or all of may No.

718
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: I I like the idea teams have scheduled scrimmages with

719
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: one another in the spring before that. That's not unheard of.

720
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Speaker 3: So I was hoping you would bring that up because

721
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: I have seen some conjecture that that could be a

722
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Speaker 3: potential avenue if things really go sideways, that that could

723
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: potentially be an option to just have to think about

724
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: game season against a rival.

725
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Speaker 2: Think about teams that have a lot of not a lot,

726
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: but multiple legitimate rivals. So okay, so if we're going

727
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: to go through the biggest rivalries in the sport, we're

728
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 2: obviously going to say Alabama Auburn a no brainer. Play

729
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl on this Sinko to Mayo weekend, Sinkle

730
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Speaker 2: to Tyo. If I may sure single to Tyo weekend.

731
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: We have the Iron Bowl, But then where does that

732
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: leave Georgia. They don't get the Auburn Games. So Georgia

733
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. I suppose you have Clemson South Florirolina, Georgia Florida. Yeah,

734
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 2: Georgia Florida makes sense, You're right, Georgia Florida. They play

735
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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville wherever. Okay, So we have Georgia Florida, and

736
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Speaker 2: then Clemson South Carolina, but then Florida State Miami because

737
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Speaker 2: we're not gonna have Florida Florida State. So I'm just

738
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Speaker 2: saying there's a number of really interesting dominoes having in

739
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Speaker 2: the Northwest. I would rather see. As an Oregon fan,

740
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Speaker 2: I'd rather see Oregon Washington. I think there's more bad

741
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: blood there than either Oregon Oregon State or the Apple Cup.

742
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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

743
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: It's probably safer to keep any I know, Washington State

744
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: is pretty far east. We have the big Game Stanford

745
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: Cali of UCLA USC no travel there, Texas, Oklahoma. I

746
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: would suppose after the last couple of years, if we're

747
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: taking away Alabama from LSU, the last couple of years,

748
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: at least two years ago. It was a crazy game.

749
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Speaker 2: So I guess LSU A and m No. I know

750
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Speaker 2: there's LSU Ole miss history, but I think that's probably

751
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: the way to go there. Big ten, you have Michigan,

752
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I suppose Wisconsin, Minnesota you play for the acts. Yeah,

753
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: so Penn State, Michigan State, Grant.

754
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Penn.

755
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: State, Michigan State. Who else in the ACC? What else

756
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: is movie like Pitt?

757
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

758
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: I would love for it to be Pitt West Virginia

759
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: and just do it based on proximity.

760
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: You got options.

761
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Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't come to that, but I've I've

762
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: seen a lot written about that lately that potentially that

763
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Speaker 3: would be on the table.

764
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Speaker 1: Everything state.

765
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Speaker 2: Who'd Oklahoma State play Iowa State? I mean, you have

766
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: you have at least history there recently within the last decade.

767
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma would have to pick between Texas and Oklahoma State,

768
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Speaker 3: and they'd.

769
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Speaker 1: Probably pick you gotta pick t wh would you rather be?

770
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: If you got gotta be Texas, you gotta be Texas.

771
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

772
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, So then you have TCU Baylor. Can

773
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: you imagine? I mean you'd probably have to space it

774
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: over the month. It couldn't be Synco to TiO, but

775
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: that'd be a hell of a may which is already

776
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: an amazing sports month in normal times.

777
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Speaker 3: It could be Mayo to TiO, Mayo to TiO. There

778
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Speaker 3: you go, that's actually getting me pretty worked up. Tie,

779
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Speaker 3: I like, well, well, let's work on a helmet schedule

780
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: for that sixty five games.

781
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: Let's figure it out. Yea.

782
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: So now we're fully on the spring side of things here.

783
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: Now.

784
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: I have made no bones about the fact that I

785
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: think this is where it is headed.

786
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

787
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Speaker 3: A couple scenarios here they actually close mostly mimic what

788
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: we are or what we've already discussed in the fall. Right,

789
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: What if there's a ten game spring schedule or a

790
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: five to seven game spring schedule. So what I've heard

791
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: a lot of lately is that if they do it

792
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: in the spring, they would probably shoot for a ten

793
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: game slate, that the twelve game thing would probably be

794
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: out of the picture.

795
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, each team would shoot for ten games. I have

796
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: seen some.

797
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Speaker 3: Difference of opinion when it comes to when they would

798
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Speaker 3: start that season, but basically sometime after the super Bowl.

799
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Speaker 3: It might end at some point in like early May,

800
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Speaker 3: at which point they would try to stage some sort

801
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: of some sort of regular, quote unquote regular postseason. I

802
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: saw that the gentleman who runs the Liberty Bowl made

803
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Speaker 3: a comment saying, in effect, if the season moved, the

804
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: Liberty Bowl would try to move with it and try

805
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: to come up with some way.

806
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: The Liberty Bowl wants that, sure, of course.

807
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, who knows if other Bowl games

808
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: would follow suit, but it it would present a logistical challenge.

809
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure. All I know is that's at least one

810
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Bowl chairman who says, yeah, sure, we'd be interested in

811
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Speaker 3: it if it if it made sense. So you play

812
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: a full ten game slate, presumably in the springtime, and

813
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 3: I hope in the springtime we have this thing better

814
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: under control. Maybe you can get more fans in the stands,

815
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: and more fans in the stands at home sites. Probably

816
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: means more fans in the stands or at least some

817
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: fans in the stands at bowl games as well. So

818
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: I think if you've got a ten game spring season,

819
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: the most likely scenario here would be that they try

820
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: to try to pull this thing off like they normally would.

821
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: Maybe there aren't like forty eight bowl games or however

822
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: many we're up to now. But I got to believe

823
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: they would try to do a playoff. I got to

824
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: believe that they would try to do some semblance of

825
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: a modified Bowl season as well.

826
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. My concern would be packing airports

827
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: and planes for games that ultimately mean even less than usual. Why,

828
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: you know, why do Notre Dame fans need to be

829
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: traveling to New York from the Midwest for the pin

830
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: Straight Bowl, even if it's a half empty Yankee Stadium.

831
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Why are we traveling to the Liberty Bowl from Louisiana?

832
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: Why?

833
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's if we have drivable sites and

834
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: it's drivable bowl tie ins, and we just moved the

835
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl for a year to I don't know, we

836
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: move the Liberty Bowl to Miami, we move the Liberty

837
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Bowl to you know, in a place where we can

838
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: have a number of Bowl games in the same stadium

839
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: over a given amount of time. I still, I don't know.

840
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: It still strikes me as the actual least important thing

841
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: here is making sure and I understand from a school

842
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: payout perspective it's important, but a lot, you know, having

843
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: the New Mexico Bowl, having the the I know, some

844
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: of these the Bowls about thet you all don't exist, sorry,

845
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: New Mexico having you know, having minic Care, having you know,

846
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: minu Key, having all of these Bowl games which sort

847
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: of exists because their TV shows go off happen. I

848
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: don't know. It strikes me as not keeping with the

849
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: spirit of trying to modify the season for the better.

850
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: Tony the Tiger would like a word, sir, Sorry, Duke's mayo.

851
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think if we get a ten games slate,

852
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: they're going to try it, but it will be modified.

853
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: I think it's going to have to be modified.

854
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't think every Bowl game can can't afford to

855
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: make that move. And you know, we already dressed sort

856
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: of this scenario in which we've got a five to

857
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: seven games slate.

858
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't get ten in.

859
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: Maybe there's more virus to deal with, maybe there's delays

860
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: along the way. Five to seven games slate again, it

861
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: ends like late spring something something akin to that. If

862
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: you have a five games slate and then it just

863
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: come back to this point for a.

864
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: Second, Yeah, are you able to stage playoff?

865
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Probably a minimum nine games to have a full fledged

866
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: playoff where it's just like, okay, we were able to

867
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: play nine college football games in the fall or the spring.

868
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: So we've done something right in terms of protection, and

869
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: we haven't had to shut down the season because of

870
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: anything catastrophic. We've earned a playoff five games. I mean,

871
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: I am now grating, gravitating much towards just anarchy, chaos

872
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: of only playing the season in October, playing two games

873
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: a week, two quarters each game. That's what I want, Ty,

874
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: I want express rules. I want personal pan college football.

875
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: Well, the trans perfect Music City Bowl or a tropical

876
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl.

877
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: YEP, would be sorely disappointed.

878
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: Dan.

879
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: I read good friends over at at Duke's Mayo.

880
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: But do you have a Mayo preference?

881
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Brand wise? I'm not a big Mayo guy. We talked

882
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: about this.

883
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad. Just good males out there. Yeah,

884
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: you've got Japanese mayo qupi. I think it's how it's

885
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: pronounced Mayo. Helman's Duke's is pretty good.

886
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a palette of Duke's Mayo ship

887
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: to my house, aren't I.

888
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: That's fine secret weapon for grilled cheese tie. If you

889
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: like a good grilled cheese spread some mao on each

890
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: on each of those uh oh pieces of bread. Stop

891
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: oh stop it caramelizes real nicely got the oil in there.

892
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: I don't care what it moliza is whipped egg whites

893
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: and oil tie.

894
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: Come on, no no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: Right in cellverbal at gmail dot com, let us know

896
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the matter.

897
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: What would you like to see in a postseason in

898
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: any of these scenarios? Again, we're talking maybe some wish

899
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: wishful thinking, but full twelve games slate, maybe a ten

900
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: games slate, maybe only five to seven games, different teams

901
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: playing different amounts of games. You know, we've had weird

902
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: suggestions that have come into the inbox.

903
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: I'd love to read more. I'm just so fascinated by

904
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: this scenario. I am with you ultimately. You know, just

905
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: from a fan interest standpoint, anything different is at least interesting.

906
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: We always see a little bit of a drop off

907
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: towards the end of the year, and presumably that's because

908
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: folks they root for a team and then they're out

909
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: of it and then they stop paying attention.

910
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: That happens to a lot of us, right and we

911
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: see it.

912
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: We don't get as many downloads towards the latter half

913
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: of the season. That's just the normal course of doing

914
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: business here on a podcast. But you introduce a quirk

915
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: like an asymmetrical season, like a really asymmetrical season, or

916
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: move it to the spring, or some sort of flex

917
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: scheduling scenario.

918
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: That to me is very interesting.

919
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: And I don't want to speak for all of our listeners,

920
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: but I think I can speak for most of them

921
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: when I say that that is worth tuning in to

922
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: to listen to more of and hopefully to call the

923
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: reverb line about, just because it's so different, it's so unprecedented.

924
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: We'll never have it again, hopefully, and you know, it

925
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: could make for a very interesting outcome with a lot

926
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: of debate.

927
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm not po you can correct me on this, because

928
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: this I think is in your home state, the Little

929
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: League World Series Williamsport, Pennsylvania. Of course, we have some

930
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: sort of pseudo Little League World Series rule where we

931
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: have five conference games and then whoever is determined to

932
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: be the champion, and maybe it's like a World Cup

933
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: element to it, so it's like points four points against,

934
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: and you get more points for road winds and road scoring.

935
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Whatever.

936
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: We sort of come up with a traveling team scenario.

937
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: I assume you're familiar with how you know sometimes in

938
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: local sports leagues. You know, it'll be a little league,

939
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: baseball league, I guess, just little league, and we have

940
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: all these teams playing, and then at the end of

941
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 2: the season, there's an all Star game and all Star team,

942
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: and then that all Star team becomes the traveling team

943
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: you take on other little leagues, right, you know you

944
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: probably did that with basketball, and so at the end

945
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: of the season in the way that we have and

946
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: I know it's like, you know, the team from Tom's

947
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: River is the Northeast, right, It's it's the same team.

948
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: It's not like they've drafted the best players from upstate

949
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey and Connecticut whatever.

950
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: But what if we get that, what if at the

951
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: end of the year it's a AU all over again.

952
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: Correct, we have AAU college football where okay, let's say

953
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: Mario cristaball and Oregon go five and oh nobody else

954
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: is undefeated. The Pac twelve beats itself up. But then

955
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Mario Christibaal says, okay, I'm I'm now the coach, and

956
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: I have a limit to the number of Oregon players

957
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: I can select for the West team. So he selects

958
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: you know, Pinay Sewl and CJ. Verdell and whoever on

959
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: their defense, cave On Thibadeau, and that's that. You can't

960
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: select more than eight players from any team, you know,

961
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: and they set a geographical boundary. So this is how

962
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: you get to go from five standard season games and

963
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we then have an eight team

964
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: regional playoff, an eight team regional playoff that's inclusive. So

965
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: then you get buy in because Okay, maybe there's a

966
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: couple of Fresno State players on this team. Maybe there's

967
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: a couple of San Diego State players, maybe there's a

968
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: couple of you have ASU players, you have Utah players,

969
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: and then they're taking on and there's some sort of

970
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: G five minimum that you have to take a certain

971
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: number of G five players from your region as well.

972
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: Right in, celiverbo at gmail dot com, did you see

973
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: that Trevor Lawrence got again it?

974
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems early. Yeah, it's a little early.

975
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: But best of luck. I mean this genuinely best of

976
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: luck to him. But I speak for myself when I

977
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 2: say Trevor, that's it. That's my full solid verbal.

978
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: Gmail dot COM's the email celiverbal dot com is the website.

979
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: Don't forget to subscribe, don't forget get to rate and

980
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: like and review and follow us on social media at Instagram,

981
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982
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,560
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983
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: sign up for the newsletter Dan. We'll be back on

984
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: Friday talking more college football with all y'all fun show

985
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: tonight talking about postseason possibilities again. Write in let us

986
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: know your thoughts. We'd love to hear more.

987
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: I think we're probably gonna go to a more reality

988
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: based writ I think so.

989
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: I think so, I think yeah, I think that's probably

990
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: the move. But I enjoyed this.

991
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

992
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: Ti Hillebred.

993
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: We will be back in a few days. In the meantime,

994
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: stay safe, stay solid, Peace,