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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by bet MGM. This is our Mid American Conference preview.

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Speaker 1: It's Action time, Baby. I'm Mike Calberry's joined by Mike

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Speaker 1: Ianello and are man expert Stuck, author of the Mac Manifesto.

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Speaker 1: You gotta catch it every year? What does that drop?

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Speaker 1: Late October early November. Just the deepest of dimes. Just

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Speaker 1: two of.

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Speaker 2: Them have won in preseason one mid season Stuck, how

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Speaker 2: you doing all as well? In full prep mode? Excited

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Speaker 2: to talk action. This is always my favorite podcast of

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Speaker 2: the year. Oh iiO should have got to the window

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Speaker 2: last year for us. If our boy Rourke doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 2: that one hurt. But we got him to the conference final,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm excited to talk maction always a blast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Maple missile his knee is going to be

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Speaker 1: a topic that we're going to be watching. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously they have CJ. Harris as well. He played very

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Speaker 1: well in the bowl game. But if Rourke is a go,

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Speaker 1: there's certainly a team that can win the MAC. I know,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the top teams? Do you

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Speaker 1: view it as really a two or three team racer?

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Speaker 1: You think it's more wide open in the mat?

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Speaker 3: The Mac's always wide open, just that, you know, I

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Speaker 3: do think you know, I know you disagree, We'll get it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, stuck, you sure. I still think Toledo is

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Speaker 3: the class of the conference. But you know, when's the

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Speaker 3: last time the MAC had a repeat champion in Northern

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Speaker 3: Illinois in eleven? Yeah, so just inherently, I think Toledo's

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Speaker 3: head and chillers above everyone else. But there's no chance

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Speaker 3: they win it just because that's how the MAC works.

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Speaker 3: So and that sense is wide open because then who

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Speaker 3: who else is it going to be? Is kind of

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Speaker 3: how I look at this conference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two two golden rules when approaching the MAC.

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Speaker 2: Is you never bet on the favorite, the preseason favorite,

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Speaker 2: or like you know, I've usually said the preseason favored

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Speaker 2: or two. Now, last year Toledo won, it really should

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Speaker 2: have lost their division. If Eastern Michigan a fluky fourth

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Speaker 2: down conversion, it's like they win that. And I'm fully

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Speaker 2: convinced that if work doesn't go down to Ohio beats Toledo.

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Speaker 2: And these these teams were like fifteen to one. You know,

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Speaker 2: I had a ball State one from a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago. They were I think fourteen to one. And

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Speaker 2: then you I also say I never take under the

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Speaker 2: lowest totals. So like Kent State, well, I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about them. They're totals two and a half. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna they're they're gonna suck. They're gonna be the worst

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Speaker 2: team in the country. I think they're They're basically they

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Speaker 2: have no returning starters on offense, zero zero. It's a

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Speaker 2: brand new everything is starting over. But like you just

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Speaker 2: luck in the wins in the MAC. Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: the MAC ever, I'm sorry, and I think Ken State

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Speaker 2: is going to be horrifying, horrifying, But like you'll have

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Speaker 2: like there's no depth, so you can play a team

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Speaker 2: that's just completely hurt. You know, they play CCSU at

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Speaker 2: They were playing for nothing, like just no thanks. It's

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Speaker 2: under nothing state. But I generally one of my general

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Speaker 3: Stuck to your point about Toledo winning last year as

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Speaker 3: the favorite. Yeok, I had Toledo as the favorite last year.

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Speaker 2: And you have Ohio down a plus two seventy, which

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Speaker 2: But now they're at plus two seventy. No thanks on Ohio,

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Speaker 1: So you guys mentioned Toledo in Ohio at the top

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Speaker 1: the odds to win this conference. Miami of Ohio eight

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Speaker 1: well be two hundred thousand to one. They're not winning

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Speaker 1: the East Ohio. Huge turnaround last year. Tim Albin goes

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Speaker 1: their win total is set up at seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: They return three quarters of their offensive line. Starts basically

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Speaker 1: a wash in terms of net tarp They're plus four

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Speaker 1: They got five first team All MAC players on the

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Speaker 1: PFF team, as we mentioned Curtis Rourke or CJ. Harris

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Speaker 1: a strong offensive line. Sam Wigless almost seventy five catches

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Speaker 1: stop the run. Their secondary could be much improved. You know,

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Speaker 1: interesting from a non conference perspective when you zero in

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Bobcats, A team that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last year was the year to really

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons I loved him last year is

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Speaker 2: And you gotta remember two years ago, well, let's go

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Speaker 2: three years ago, Ohio was like four four to one

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Speaker 2: everything went wrong that year and they were kind of

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Speaker 2: undervalued going into last year. In my opinion, I think

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Speaker 2: the offense will be good as long as work is healthy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you do have Harris there, so there is

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Speaker 2: on the offensive line last year, so a better health

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Speaker 2: there you would assume, and the offense should cook. But

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about the defense. Lose a couple key pieces

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Speaker 2: the division, but home field advantage a little overrated in

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Speaker 2: Sun Belt in all of college football over the past

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Speaker 2: twenty years. They get Western Michigan, Central Michigan, and IU

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Speaker 2: Western Michigan Accord in Kent, which is huge, as are

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Speaker 2: the three worst teams in the conference. In my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I think their win total is close to about right

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Speaker 2: next podcast. But winnable game Iowa State like they're hosting

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Speaker 2: I always state it's going to look like there's there's

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going under or over. I think the

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Speaker 2: win totals about right. Ohio definitely has a shot win.

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Speaker 2: It's first MAC titles since nineteen sixty eight, which is crazy,

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Speaker 2: think they're a tad over d I wish we got

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like a pass from stuck here just

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Speaker 1: because of the potential issues with roksknee and you know

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Speaker 1: how they react to that. In my opinion, I think

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Speaker 1: the play here is over seven and a half. I

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Speaker 1: don't like the value in terms of winning the MAC

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Speaker 1: out right I know, can you kind of break the

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Speaker 1: tie here? We got kind of a pass, a slight

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Speaker 3: Were you and Bob cuts, Yeah, that's gonna be born.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a pass too. I like them as a team.

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Speaker 3: It's just, you know, my kind of natural instinct is

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Speaker 3: they were like every gambler's darling last year. They paid

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Speaker 3: off so well, so that inherently scares me going into

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Speaker 3: this year. I think the offense should be fine. You

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Speaker 3: it seems like he'll be ready to start with the season.

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Speaker 3: So I'm actually not as concerned about Work's health at

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Speaker 3: least at the start of the year. Benger's back, top

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Speaker 3: receivers back. You said four or five offense of lineman's back,

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Speaker 3: Breeze to me. The cool storyline watching this year is

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Speaker 3: Curtis needs two thousand yards and twenty one touchdowns to

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Speaker 3: pass his brother Nathan for second in school history. He'll

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Speaker 3: have to do those, He'll have to break those records

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Speaker 3: for them to have any success this year. You know,

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Speaker 3: of gives me makes me a little nervous too. And

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Speaker 3: like Stuck said, they're four to one in one position games.

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Speaker 3: They were eighth in the country and turnover margin, so

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Speaker 1: Next up in the MAC East Miami Ohio six and seven.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned exactly this my pick to win the MAC

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Speaker 1: That is what I'm taking for my conference title future.

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Speaker 1: It would have been easy last year in Oxford to

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Speaker 2: Of the conference. No, I agree, I will have Miami

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Speaker 2: I have no interest in this team. It's under nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't like this Buffalo team. They also lost the

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Speaker 2: For Buffalo, I don't think I am quite there yet

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Speaker 1: Another team with kind of a middling win total is

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green. They went to a bowl. They got showed

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Speaker 1: up by New Mexico State six and seven on the

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Speaker 1: year five and three in conference. Two thirds of their

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Speaker 1: O line starts to return plus one point five in

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Speaker 1: the net tar, but only eight returning starters in their punter.

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Speaker 1: Lots of new faces on offense, including a brand new

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Speaker 1: backfield could be Campden Orth or Connor Baslac from Zoo.

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Speaker 1: Defense wasn't great last year and they only returned four starters.

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Speaker 1: But I'll pose this question to you. Stuck with all

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Speaker 1: of this being said, how the hell did they beat

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Speaker 1: Toledo and drop forty two on them last year? It's

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Speaker 1: still I understand this maction. Anything could happen, but that's

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Speaker 1: still one of the biggest head scratchers for me of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Was that absolutely just a flash in

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Speaker 1: the pan? Or is there something that Bowling Green can

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Speaker 1: try to build on in this season For one of

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Speaker 1: the best wins in the MAC last.

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Speaker 2: Year, I mean that they we just talked about Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo was down like twenty one to Toledo in like

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and came back in one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's just what happens in the MAC. You're gonna

492
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Speaker 2: have these random games, which is why like I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm petrified to go under.

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Speaker 3: All these really playing that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know, this Bowling Green team, I'm just

496
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Speaker 2: I'm still not a fan of their roster. I'm not

497
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Speaker 2: a fan of their coaching staff. You know, you lose McDonald,

498
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Speaker 2: a quarterback bringing days like who was previously at Indiana Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he can you know, elevate his games as he's

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Speaker 2: playing now against inferior competition. That's what you hope. I'm

501
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: not a huge Baslic guy gets stort back after sitting

502
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Speaker 2: out a year, but it's still an unproven wide receiver group.

503
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: Maybe your offensive line can be better, because that's really

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00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: been a problem over the past couple of years. They've

505
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Speaker 2: been super young. If you lose a defensive end of

506
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: the NFL like that's a that's a huge loss on

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00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: a team like Bowling Green and their nose tackle, and

508
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: then the secondary losses are pretty significant, and I think

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00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: they regressed on the special team side. They were really

510
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Speaker 2: lucky on the special teams, like a couple of punt

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Speaker 2: block touchdowns. They're gonna have a freshman kicker now. And

512
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Speaker 2: then last year, look, they went won five and two

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00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: one possession games. They faced four backup quarterbacks. You draw

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Speaker 2: Toledo at Western Michigan ball State from the West, mix

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Speaker 2: bag there. You do a three straight road games in

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Speaker 2: the middle of your schedule. I idlean under here with

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Speaker 2: Bowling Green, especially if you can get a five. Not

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Speaker 2: a fan of this team again, when you look at

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00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: the East, it's like, I think Ohio love Rourke, but

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00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: I think they're overvalued. I'm not a fan of this

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Speaker 2: Buffalo team, not a fan of this Bowling Green team.

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Speaker 2: You know, then we're gonna talk about Acorn and Kent's State.

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Speaker 2: I think accord it's like on the come up as

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Speaker 2: close it's on the precipice, but there's still not I

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Speaker 2: don't think capable of winning the conference. And then Kent

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Speaker 2: State's argue the worst team count all that.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to bully me betting Acro to win

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Speaker 3: the conference.

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Speaker 2: Again, look if actors once in one possession games last year?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? So yeah, I mean all that. It just

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Speaker 2: leads back to mind Ohio having value to me.

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Speaker 1: What do you think I know? Because I'm going under

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Speaker 1: on this team?

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Speaker 2: I bet, oh, I bet I should I should say

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Speaker 2: I've bet under.

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Speaker 1: Here there we go, all right, so that's two under bets.

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Speaker 1: Can we make a three?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to. I wasn't gonna. I was gonna

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Speaker 3: just pass. But don't like, don't Miley pause that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know where I think I'm Matt McDonald's and Beslic's

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Speaker 3: probably an upgrade from him. I do have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of like, there's a little bit of like maybe

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Speaker 3: baslike has like a Rocky Lombardi type season, and you

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Speaker 3: know it's way better at this level. Let me think

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Speaker 3: it leads into a MAC title game. But I didn't

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Speaker 3: say I don't think Bowling Green's well coached at all.

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Speaker 3: So I'll certainly take an under before and over. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you guys, if you guys are both find it,

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Speaker 3: I might have to just align the plans and take

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Speaker 3: it with you guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, we were just talking about the Zips. Zips,

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. They went two and ten last year,

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Speaker 1: one and seven in the conference. Their win total to

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Speaker 1: three and a half juiced minus one sixty if you

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Speaker 1: want to go over over. Seventy percent of their O

556
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Speaker 1: line starts are back negative one in the net tarp

557
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Speaker 1: ten returning starters. Yes, we were a year early on

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Speaker 1: the Joe Moo bandwagon, but were we really Because when

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Speaker 1: you look at it, yeah, they won two but down

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Speaker 1: the stretch seven point loss to Central, six point loss

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Speaker 1: to Kent, six point loss to Eastern, one point loss

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Speaker 1: at Buffalo, and I really like what they have coming

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Speaker 1: back in the backfield. DJ Irons is someone who had

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Speaker 1: three games of over three hundred yards passing, including one

565
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Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing game. Against Bowling Green Lorenzo Lingard. He's

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Speaker 1: been one of those Carmen San Diego players. He's been

567
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Speaker 1: all over the map, but he was a former Gatorade

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year in the state of Florida. That

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00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: is a really high ceiling skill position player. To have

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00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: it running back with an experienced line in front of them,

571
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: the defense, in my opinion, could take a jump into

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Speaker 1: the top one hundred and be competitive because of their

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Speaker 1: experienced secondary. Bubba Arslanian hopefully, I'm going to say that

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00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: right all conference centerpiece at linebacker. He's so much fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. If you go on YouTube, he actually is

576
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: a highlight tape set to good vibrations. I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly why that was the musical accompaniment, but it's a

578
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: jam and he's got the look of like a nineties linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He's got the restrictor plate behind his helmet. He's fifth

580
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: in the nation with one hundred and twenty nine tackles

581
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Speaker 1: last year. I really like him. And then when we

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Speaker 1: get into the actual schedule, there's winnables all over the schedule.

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Speaker 1: They're at Temple, which I think is an interesting opener.

584
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: They're going to be obviously a dog there, but I

585
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if DJ Irons plays a clean game

586
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Speaker 1: from a turnover perspective, if they're in it in the

587
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, a win against Morgan State at home, they

588
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Speaker 1: get Buffalo at home at Central, They're at Bowling Green,

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: and they get Kent at home. So breaking that down,

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00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: those are six games they potentially could win. Could they

591
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: go four and two? And that's slate. I'm gonna bet yes.

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00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm on this team. I think they were close to

593
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Speaker 1: breaking through to win three or four games last year.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to do it this time and

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Speaker 1: get the four or five flirt with Bowl eligibility. I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you, Ianello. I know that Joe moorehead is

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Speaker 1: a big part of your Penn State fan hood and

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Speaker 1: the offensive times uneven it was year one. I understand

599
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot of moving pieces in the portal

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Speaker 1: last year and this year? Are you bullish again? On Makron?

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Speaker 3: I am. And by the way, people always ask, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know why you gamble and why did we do

603
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Speaker 3: these win you know, win win total futures and having

604
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: you know, your money tied up all year. It's it's

605
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: so at the end of the year you can be

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Speaker 3: screaming at your TV for an Akron Buffalo game because

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: you have Akron over two and a half wins and

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Speaker 3: you've been sweating it for eight months and it all

609
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: comes down to a game against Buffalo and it was

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Speaker 3: electric even though it lost.

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Speaker 2: Shut one one. By the way, that's another shot at

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Acro in the finale, like it was like an

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Speaker 2: afternoon Yon that got rescheduled. Yeah, Buffalo gave for buligibility

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00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: and Acers should have won that game, lost by one.

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00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo came back a miracle win and Acker lost another

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Speaker 2: one posession game the one and five and one posession

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Speaker 2: games last year.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm big on dj Irons if you know,

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Speaker 3: he moves around a lot, so he does get banged up,

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Speaker 3: but you know, six six, two hundred and fifteen pounds,

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Speaker 3: he's a tank. And what Stuck mentioned for Buffalo not

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Speaker 3: bringing in Power five guys, like that's kind of all

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Speaker 3: Joe moorehead. Does you know they bring back from last

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Speaker 3: year all macbuyer, Seve Alex Adams, who's a former LSU guy,

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Speaker 3: Daniel George from Penn State. Just you know, looking down

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Speaker 3: the list of transfer I'm not gonna ptend like know

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Speaker 3: if these guys are good or not. But you see,

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Speaker 3: you know, running back from Florida, quarterback from West Virginia,

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Speaker 3: running back from Arizona, linebacker from Illinois, cornerback from South Carolina,

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Speaker 3: a safety from Pitt Like. I love seeing that on

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Speaker 3: Max school teams. You mentioned the guys they brought back.

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Speaker 3: Defensive line is still a concern. Offensive line is still

633
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Speaker 3: kind of a concern. But I do like what Actors building.

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Speaker 3: They signed Joe Mohed to a contract extension after two wins,

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Speaker 3: which tells you they believe in what he's doing. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to give him time. That's why he's getting

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Speaker 3: transferred because they know he has the commitment from the school.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm all in on the Zips again. I

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Speaker 3: just I think Joe moh Ed is such like even

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Speaker 3: talking about Bowl and Green Like, Joe Mohed is such

641
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Speaker 3: a better coach. So I'm always gonna side with Yomo.

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Speaker 2: It's over nothing with Akron. You know you got Ken

643
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: stayed at home. That should be a win. There's there's

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Speaker 2: enough winnable games on here, even though they'll only be

645
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: favored and probably two maybe three. They also have Ohio

646
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: at home in the finale could be important if Ohio

647
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: has everything locked up. They you know, we saw this

648
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: with Toledo last year. Toledo basically benched everyone in the

649
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: final two games, and you see that in the mac

650
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: A lot. So that could be a free win if

651
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: if Ohio has everything locked up by the finale. But yeah,

652
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean you could just see it. Over the last

653
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: couple of years, especially last year, this team is getting closer.

654
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 2: Just look at the margin of victory. They were one

655
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: in five and one posession games. They're much more competitive

656
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: their defense. The defense also improved a lot late in

657
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: the year. You would hope what this is going to

658
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: come down to. I know they lost Jack Lewis, their

659
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: studders here, but they have enough talent at the skill positions.

660
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Lingard is a huge get, especially if the price went

661
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: down with an injury, and I like Irons, A're just

662
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: gonna come down to the offensive line. The offensive line

663
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: has been so bad for so long, but they were

664
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: so young and there was a lot of shuffling around

665
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: injuries last year, and you would hope a year or

666
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: two of this system that they're going to be a

667
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: little bit better. If some of the transfers in the

668
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: secondary hit and then yeah, the D line is a concern,

669
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that this team is getting closer

670
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: and should get very close, if not to a bowl

671
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: this year. So yeah, it's over four. I agree.

672
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you guys are talking about Temple.

673
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Every year we see a MAC team go upset a

674
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Power five school. I can could beat Indiana.

675
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Indiana's bad.

676
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: I know that we said this is not an under

677
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: podcast as it relates to the MAC, but we got

678
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: to talk about Kent five and seven last year four

679
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: and four in conference play. Their win total set at

680
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: two and a half. Only forty one percent of their

681
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: O line starts back negative twelve in the net TARP,

682
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: negative seven on offense alone. That's tied worse nationally for

683
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: overall losses in TARP and offensive losses. They returned just

684
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: five starters in total all on defense, both specialists. This

685
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: is possibly the worst team in America. Let's just call

686
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: it what it is. It's a restart on offense, no starters.

687
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Run defense was the only thing that was halfway passable

688
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: last year, and they lose three other four starters on

689
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: the D line. They absolutely could beat Central Connecticut State

690
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: as an FCS fan, I can tell you the Blue

691
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Devils are not good, but they could lose every other game,

692
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: and they open at Central Florida at Arkansas, so not

693
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: exactly a confidence boost there. This team is horrific. This

694
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: team is probably going to go I'll say one in eleven, two,

695
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: and ten, So I am going to play the under

696
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: here for a little bit. But I don't know. This

697
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: is just kind of the ugly side of the transfer portal.

698
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: They lose their heads now the OC with prime In

699
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: in Boulder running their offense for the Buffalos and Colin

700
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Schlee off to UCLA. Where did Marquez Cooper end up

701
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: ball State? So I don't know. There's just there's nothing

702
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: good to say about this team. All their best players

703
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: have new jerseys on this fall. I'll start with you, Ianello.

704
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: Is there anything I'm missing, any reason, you know, schematically

705
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: new position players getting opportunities, anything I'm missing on the

706
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Golden Flashes.

707
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the one nice thing I was I wrote

708
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: down that we could at least say something positive is

709
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: you know, all three of us have Pennsylvania ties. Their

710
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators are both PA guys, so at least you

711
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: know football towns. But I'm with you, dude. I agree

712
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: with Stucky. We're like, I don't know if I have

713
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: the stomach to bet and under two and a half

714
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: wins on a max school because I'll just be like

715
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: nervous every Tuesday night. But this team is going to

716
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: be garbage. You know, we just talked about the ACRONT

717
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: team last year that won two games. They beat this

718
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: team by twenty Like, unless I'm missing something, they have

719
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: zero returning starters on offense. Has that ever happened before?

720
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: Like ever? I find that hard. I mean, that's like

721
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: almost impossible to do. So I'm with you. I think

722
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: they're the worst team in the country by a long shot.

723
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'd love to see them play U mass

724
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: just so we can see somewhat of a competitive game.

725
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: But I think they're horrific and they'll be lucky to

726
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: win two games, So I don't know if I have

727
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: the stomach to play it, but I certainly like them

728
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: to go on.

729
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: All right, Stuck, what do you think of Kent's I

730
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: can't bet the other two and a half, but it's

731
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: under or nothing. They're going to be awful. They're one

732
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty to one to win the mat which

733
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. They got a good, decent running back room,

734
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: even though they lost their their Cooper interconference. I mean

735
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: Williams comes back from injury. That's about it. I mean

736
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: they lost everything else. They got a brand new, brand

737
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: new pass catchers, brand new coordinator, brand new offense line.

738
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: They have five career starts. You're probably gonna get like

739
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: one of the transfers that starts at quarterback's college sleep leaving.

740
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't get why you laugh. I mean it's a

741
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: nightmare situation, but he's gonna be buried at you CLA.

742
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: You're moving to a four man front with d and

743
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: on defense, and you lose Wes Davis gamble, you lose

744
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: your top two tackles from the linebacker unit. Uh, you

745
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: lose Manre Miller in two safeties. I'll say another good

746
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: thing is they got this freshman kickoff specialist. They couldn't

747
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: kick it off last year, so like they would score

748
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: and the other team would started like midfield, So it

749
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. They said they might be able to a

750
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: little better, but they're not going to score. So it

751
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: doesn't even matter when they're kick with their kickoff specials

752
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: does except the beginning of the game. Yeah they're awful,

753
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: but like yeah, probably beat Central Connecticut State. And then

754
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: like you know, if these MAC teams have no depth,

755
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: which is another and like they're they're a lot closer

756
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: than you think. Like that that's another reason why these

757
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: long shots can win these favorites. Like you lose your quarterback,

758
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: you're fucked. Like so, like they're playing Northern Illinois at

759
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: home in the finale, like if Rocky Lombardi is hurt,

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: like win that game. If Northern Illinois playing for nothing,

761
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: like you know they also they still do play Akron

762
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: Bowling Green at home at ball State, Buffalo at home.

763
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: I I'm not a fan, I'm not touching under two

764
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: and a half, but it's under nothing. It seems awful.

765
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean all the caveats that stuck just throughout. I

766
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: think that's becoming the running joke in this podcast. Like

767
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: if the team already has Bowl eligibility locked up and

768
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: they don't play their starters, if they get snowed in

769
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: on the tarmac and they you know they get there

770
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: right before game time, or if their quarterback gets in

771
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: a car accident, like a lot of things have to

772
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: happen for Kent to even be in games in the

773
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: fourth quarter against you know, FBS teams. So yeah, I'm

774
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: sticking to it. I'm gonna go under.

775
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: I don't mind.

776
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: I haven't done this all that often, So I'll sweat

777
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: it out on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in November and

778
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: hopefully they don't burn me, because you know this this

779
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: team is just really bad and I sometimes I want

780
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: to go in the opposite direction. I'm a pretty positive guy,

781
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: but this team just doesn't have it. Speaking of not

782
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: being all that positive, I'm going to try to poke

783
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: some holes in the West Division favorite, the favorite to

784
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: win the whole conference. That's Toledo guy. Rockets in flight stuck.

785
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: He's got the shirt on for the Rockets here. They

786
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: went nine to five last year. They went five to three,

787
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: a little bit underperformed in the regular season in the MAC.

788
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: They end up winning the MAC Conference championship game seventeen

789
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: to seven against a backup quarterback. Their win total set

790
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: at eight and a half. Their offensive line is elite

791
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: and they return eighty five percent of their O line starts.

792
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: They're plus six in the net tarp, which is the

793
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: best in the conference, plus three on both sides of

794
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: the ball. Fifteen stars returning on their punter. When you

795
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: factor in the experience, you know, upfront blocking, when you

796
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: look at Finn's legs, when you look at the running

797
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: back room, that's load at Stuart Boone, Kelly, a lot

798
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: of things really to love. But then you look towards

799
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: their schedule last year, the last four games, what was happening?

800
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: They lose to Bowling Green in a shootout, then they

801
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: muster fourteen points at Western in a loss. I understand

802
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: that they were like saving players and Gleason's in for

803
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: some of these games. They only score seventeen against Ohio

804
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: in the MAC title game and just twenty one on

805
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: the Bowl game. And when you look at Finn who

806
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: his name gets thrown around a lot as a great

807
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback and one of the best in the

808
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: G five. If you take out his monster game against

809
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Kent State. The rest of US stats for the year

810
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: seventeen tds, twelve picks. They lose three big talents in

811
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: their front seven. They're still year over year constantly Undercandle,

812
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: the most talented roster top to bottom in this conference,

813
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: and their defense could be special against the Pack. Against

814
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: the past, Mitchell and Hook and the secondary. Both could

815
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: be first team All MAC. So I'm just looking at it.

816
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: It's absolutely a pass for me in terms of plus

817
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: one seventy to win the MAC, that's ridiculous and then

818
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I don't know, it's a little

819
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: rich for my blood. It's to pass. I just think

820
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: that this team there's something missing. Maybe there's like an

821
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: edge to them, missing something. They don't have that killer

822
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: instinct where they came up flat multiple times for that

823
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: team last year. To lose five games is kind of

824
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: troubling to me. I'll go to you first here, Stuck.

825
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I know that you've you know, railed against Candle for

826
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: underperforming in the past. Do you think that this is

827
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: just way out of whack in terms of value the

828
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: way that they're being priced?

829
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: You answered during question why do they lose these games?

830
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: Like two years ago they lost like five games is

831
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: like touchdown plus fave. I'm wearing a Toledo shirt. By

832
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: the way, it's Jasey Candle. He's awful. I'm not a fan.

833
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: They have the best team talent wise by far, but

834
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: Canda will hold them back. He almost did last year,

835
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: but they just got really lucky. They got lucky that

836
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: in that Eastern Michigan game, and they got lucky that

837
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: Ohio didn't have their quarterback in the MAC title game.

838
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: It was the MVP of the league. Otherwise they would

839
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: have disappointed again. And yeah, plus one severnyone the MAC

840
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: no thank you over eight and a half minus one

841
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: forty five is basically close to the nine. With numbers wise,

842
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: I'm right in line, so I'm not betting either way.

843
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: They do have a pretty easy schedule too, although they

844
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: do a three straight road games and they have a

845
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: late by which night might not serve them well. And

846
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: they do draw Buffalo Bowling Green in Miami out of

847
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: the East mixed bag, but that third straight road game

848
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: is at Miami, and so maybe Miami can get them,

849
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: which would be a huge game. You know, obviously they're

850
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: not in the same division, but just for Miami to

851
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: pick up that game. So look, they're very talented. They're

852
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: the best team overall power ratings wise. I do think

853
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: finn is a little inconsistent, and I think their defensive

854
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: line will take a step back. I mean, losing Johnson

855
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: and to the NFL in Hines is definitely a big loss.

856
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: Maybe four will be healthy. The Missouri addition, but they're

857
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: the defense is going to be good. They're good, and look,

858
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: their special teams are a mess last year. I love

859
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: the hire there Pete Lombo Disciples, So maybe I had

860
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: them as a bottom five special teams unit last year,

861
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: so maybe that improves. But yeah, I mean, I'm fading

862
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: this team within someone else in the division and hoping

863
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: Candle does what he usually does and they underperform and

864
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: drop a couple games that they should win as touchdown

865
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: plus double digit favorites.

866
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: I teased at the beginning of the show. You know,

867
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: we haven't had a repeat MAC champions since you know

868
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: that twenty eleven twelve Northern Illinois team under Dave Dorian

869
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: and the same team hasn't even reached the conference title

870
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: game in seven years. The mackiness of the MAC kind

871
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: of makes me an auto fade of Toledo. Weird stuff

872
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: happens on Tuesday nights, and the best team doesn't always win,

873
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: especially when the mess teams Toledo.

874
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: So we're pretty much in lockstep on our thoughts on

875
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Toledo's to pass on essentially both their numbers to win

876
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: it and then their win total because their schedule is

877
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: very workable. How beautiful is Maxtion, How beautiful is maction?

878
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Just when we thought we had peak maction,

879
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: here's a team that maybe we can have a bit

880
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: of disagreement on Eastern Michigan. I think we were maybe

881
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: consensus a little bit bullish on them last year. They

882
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: go nine to four, five and three Conference, their win

883
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: total set at seven and a half. Fewer than fifty

884
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: percent of their line starts to return though negative six

885
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: point five in the TARP, negative seven on offense alone,

886
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: which is tied for worse nationally, eleven returning starters in total,

887
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: both specialists. I'm out on them this year after the

888
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: great run they had last year. I love Chris Craydon.

889
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best coaches in all

890
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: of college football when you look at what he accomplished

891
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: to get him to nine wins, to get him a

892
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: Bowl victory, what he did with Taylor Powell really bringing

893
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: the best out of him. But they also lose Citi

894
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Sow upfront. Samson Evans returns, but is he going to

895
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: be running into a loaded box week after week? Because

896
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: that's the question on offense. On defense, Jose Ramirez was

897
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: an NFL draft prospect that I was really high on.

898
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: He's a huge loss on the edge, who's very disruptive,

899
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: lots of TFLs. The defense could still be top half

900
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: of the MAC, you know, based on what they're bringing back.

901
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: But I have questions in terms of their offense, and

902
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: also the schedule is workable, so I think seven and

903
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: a half. I have them at six point nine for

904
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: my projection, so I'm leaning towards the under. But they

905
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: got Howard UMass at Jacksonville State in the non conference.

906
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: They got to win all those because they also draw.

907
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: When you look at some of their conference road games

908
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: at Toledo, at NIU, at Buffalo. You know, I'm talking

909
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: myself into it. I'm going to go under here. Maybe

910
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: this is the first time we have some serious disagreement

911
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'll go first to u I and Ello.

912
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: I know you are flying high with the Eagles as

913
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: well last year.

914
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm torn because I like this team. I love

915
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: Chris Creighton. But you know, I'm not shot up betting

916
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: the under. I think the number is right. I struggled

917
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 3: to find, you know, a lean either way. You mentioned

918
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: they bring back Samson Evans. You know, I think for

919
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: my money. He's He's probably the best running back in

920
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: the conference. With Carson Steel gone, they lose Taylor Powell,

921
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: but I think Austin Smith will be fine. You know,

922
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: he started four games last year. He also came in

923
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: in the middle of the game and helped them beat

924
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: Arizona State last year. I mean he basically got herm

925
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: Edwards fired with that performance. You know, they leading receivers back.

926
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned City South is obviously a big loss Hosea Marez.

927
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: But the defense bring back, brings back most of their

928
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: secondary and they were really good against the pass last year,

929
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: so I think that that'll be a strength again. I'm

930
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: worried about the run defense a little bit, but yeah,

931
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: like I said, I'm torn. I like him that I'm

932
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: not taking the under, but I think the number is

933
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: about about right.

934
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Two extremes here, stuck. Do you think Eastern can actually

935
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: compete with Toledo or is this a year to play

936
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: them on the under?

937
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Last year by futures were EMU and Ohio, they

938
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: were like around fifteen to one. I think that you

939
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: could five when we did the podcast for both. Really

940
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: East Eastern Michigan game so close to winning the division

941
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: would have both in the championship, which would have been awesome,

942
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: But you know, now they're nine to one. I think

943
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: they're worse off. They're worse than the trenches for sure,

944
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: and their defensive line is definitely gonna take a step back.

945
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: Gither Ramirez also, you know Crawford, and I think they're

946
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: really going to miss their defensive coordinator was the longest

947
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: tended defensive coordinator in the country, and they some of

948
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: their losses at receiver too. I was a pal over

949
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: Smith guy. I know they started both and Smith was

950
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: three and one as a starter, but I think Smith

951
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: is actually a down Hey it's not huge, but is

952
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: it downry? They were also five and one on one

953
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: possession games last year, but they that's what creightoned. He's

954
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: gonna win. He's gonna win these close games because like

955
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: they're just well coached. They're always gonna be like close

956
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: to the last in the country and penalties, very disciplined team.

957
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: They're also gonna have really good special teams this year,

958
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Like those are the things that will get you a

959
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: consistently good one possession record instead of just you know, variants.

960
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: So they have a hilarious, hilariously easy home schedule. I mean,

961
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: this is our home schedule, Howard UMass Ball State, Kent State, Akron,

962
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: and Western Michigan. Like, that's a fucking joke. So if

963
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: you win, if he sweep those in Ipsilanta, he goes,

964
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: you're you got six wins. They're at Jacksonville State, which

965
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: is actually a really bad spot because it's like right

966
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: before conference to play Jacksonville State's off of a bye.

967
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: But you know at jack jack Jacksonville State at Northern

968
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Illinois at Buffalo and the finale who knows with that game.

969
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: So I think that the line's about right. If I

970
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: had to bet it, I would probably go under. But

971
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: I have too much respect for Braydon and this home

972
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: schedule just gives them such a low floor that it's

973
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: a pass for me. But I think there are tat

974
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: overvalue over on like the futures market same it's Toledo,

975
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: So it's provides a little bit of value in some

976
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 2: of these other teams that we're gonna talk about next.

977
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: This is Bacshine.

978
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate you highlighting the schedule that home slate arguably

979
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: is the best home schedule in the entire country in

980
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: terms of who they're drawing. We'll go from a team

981
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: that I was a little bit down on in Eastern

982
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: into a team that I'm bolashawan. We're gonna go Northern

983
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Illinois here three and nine overall last year, two and

984
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: six in conference win total set at five and a half.

985
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Ninety three percent of their line starts to return, including

986
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: all five starters plus five point five in the tarp

987
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: four on d alone, fourteen returning starters, and their punter

988
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Rocky Lombardi. Somehow still in college, he gets the Perry

989
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Ellis Kansas College Basketball. For jesus, I can't believe you're

990
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: still in college. He only played in four games last year,

991
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: so they had some issues at quarterbacks. Certainly, this team

992
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: won every single coast game in twenty twenty one and

993
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: then lost five to one score games in twenty twenty two.

994
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: So could it be another bounce back special by this

995
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I think it will be when you look

996
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: at how good the offensive line can be. Antario Brown,

997
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: I love them when they particularly when they go wildcat

998
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: with him in the red zone. Gavin Williams. That's a

999
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: nice one to two at running back. Trayveon Rudolph is

1000
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: a fantastic all purpose player, gives them a huge boost

1001
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: in the return game. Defense could be really good by backstandards.

1002
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: If Cameron Dabney, the transfer from Kansas, is a difference

1003
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: maker as their second corner, and then their schedule. I

1004
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: look at it as some interesting winnable games right off

1005
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: the bat. They're at BC. BC still has a lot

1006
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: of questions on offense. They're home against SIU that should

1007
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: be a win. Against the Sulukis. They're at Nebraska in

1008
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: year one of you know, a new coaching staff. They

1009
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: get Tulsa at home, and then when I look at

1010
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: their clothes, this is where I think they can pickup

1011
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: steam to not only go over this win total, but

1012
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: get potentially to the MAC title game. If every single

1013
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: thing goes right as it did in twenty twenty one.

1014
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: There's evidence, you know, in not that far in the

1015
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: past that it can come together for the Huskies. Here's

1016
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: they're close Eastern Michigan at home at Central verse ball

1017
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: State versus Western, and then at Kent's. That to me

1018
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: looks like a potential four to one, five and zero

1019
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: close if they played the way they did two years ago.

1020
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: If everybody stays healthy, if Rocky Lombardi can give them

1021
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: twelve starts in the regular season. I'll start with you stuck.

1022
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I know this is like one of those teams that

1023
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: was either a darling for people who were, you know,

1024
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: riding with them in twenty twenty one, or one of

1025
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: the most annoying teams in the country because they just

1026
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: kept winning and pulling rabbits out of their at left

1027
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: and right. Where are you on the Huskies now?

1028
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: I despised this team two years ago. My only future

1029
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: two years ago is Kent stay what I think twelve

1030
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: to one, and then they were ended up being like

1031
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: favorites in the conference title game in Northern Illinois beat them,

1032
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: and Northern Illinois owned me all year with their lucky wins.

1033
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: But so it was true last year all that regression

1034
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: hit them. Talk about injuries. They had a walk on

1035
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: freshman quarterback start the final four games and they were

1036
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: two and five and one possession games to finish three

1037
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: and nine. Now they are seventeen to one to win

1038
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: the BAC So they're much more experienced. I think their

1039
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: d will be better. They might have the arguably have

1040
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: the best offensive line in the back. Then you have

1041
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombardi has been really good when he's healthy. And

1042
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Lynch that walk on quarterback. You remember Lynch from the

1043
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: way back when in the day for Northern Illinois, his

1044
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: younger brother. He moves the running back. So you lose

1045
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 2: you know, you lose Tucker and other resort of wide receiver,

1046
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: but you get Rudolph back. So yeah, I think that

1047
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: they could get another bump. You know, like last year

1048
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 2: they were lucky two years ago, unlucky last year. Maybe

1049
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: it's normal.

1050
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: I like the over.

1051
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: I mean you got to pay juice for it. It's

1052
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: over five and a half. I think like minus one

1053
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: fifty you can find I like that and like paytrow

1054
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: Ohio at Kent and at Akron from the east. I think,

1055
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: can they start three and six? That's not a hard

1056
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: asking if they do, which will be a bad start

1057
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: and disappointing. They start three and six, then their last

1058
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 2: three games they got the you know, assuming that they're healthy,

1059
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: they say, okay, let's get to Bowl eligibility. We're three

1060
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: and six. We've disappointed, probably lost a couple of close games.

1061
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: We got to beat Ball State in Western Michigan at

1062
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: home and then win at Kent State to get the

1063
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: six wins. So like even a bad rough start, I

1064
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 2: think this team still will find its way to six

1065
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: wins and I show a tad bit of value there.

1066
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Wouldn't mind playing over six at little plus money as well.

1067
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they get the ball eligibility over team.

1068
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate someone taking a stab on them with

1069
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: Lombardi back at seventeen to one or whatever you can

1070
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: find to win the MAC. But I went elsewhere. But

1071
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: I'll throw it to I know what to get his

1072
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: thoughts here.

1073
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm not joking. I literally deleted Rocky Lombardi from like

1074
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: my notes, like when I was doing my like prep,

1075
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: like how is he back? I was like stunned, But

1076
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a type. I'm like, there's

1077
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: no way he's still there. I'm passing on them. I

1078
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: think they're such a weird team. I just never have

1079
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: a good feel. You know, they went from zero to

1080
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: six to conference champs to three and nine. I think

1081
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: this is the year they finally end up middle of

1082
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: the pack. So I think they comes down a you know,

1083
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: five or six wins, and I just there's a team, like,

1084
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, I just know I have no feel for them,

1085
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: So I just kind of I stay away from them,

1086
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm with you, Stock, I bet I bet

1087
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: against them so many times in twenty twenty one and

1088
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: they just shoved it up my ass every week. So

1089
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 3: they're a team. I'm just like, even from a week

1090
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: two week standpoint, I just want nothing to do with

1091
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: this team.

1092
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: I just love the fact it's almost like college basketball

1093
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: when they run like a true system, like a Princeton offense,

1094
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know what they want to do,

1095
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: I know how they're going to execute. There's not a

1096
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: huge variance assuming that people stay healthy. With their offensive

1097
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: line and running back room and Rocky Lombardi, I know

1098
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a top four MAC

1099
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: offense if they stay healthy. And I really like his

1100
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: moxie in close games and the way that the coaching

1101
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: staff trusts them going on fourth down, the way they

1102
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: are in short yard situations. I love them. I think

1103
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: they get to eight wins this year, so they go

1104
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: they blow past the win total. I'm with Stuck. I

1105
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: would go plus money on over six, and I'm gonna

1106
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: go on them to, you know, take down that Toledo

1107
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: team that to me is vulnerable from a mental standpoint

1108
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: where they don't always play for their expectations. I know

1109
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: it's a much more difficult road to get a bid

1110
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: out of the West, but I'm going to take a shot.

1111
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: I think it's it's priced lucratively. All right, Let's look

1112
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: at another team in that five to six win win

1113
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: total kind of window, and that's the Ball State. They

1114
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: went five and seven last year, three and five in

1115
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: the MAC eighty three percent of their own line starts return.

1116
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: They're basically a wash in the net tarp eleven or

1117
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: two starters and their punter. But they had new skill guys,

1118
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: they got a new quarterback. You know, they lose. I

1119
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: think Paddock went to Illinois in the transfer portal, but

1120
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: we got some familiar G five faces coming in in

1121
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: their backfield Lane Hatcher and Marquez Cooper a lot of

1122
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: G five success in their past. Great tight end room,

1123
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe the best tight end room in all the G

1124
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: five in Hunt and Cozy ol whole front seven is

1125
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: back on defense, but a brand new secondary. That's a

1126
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: little bit worrisome. Also, early in the year, they're going

1127
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: to get slapped around. They got to go to Kentucky, Georgia.

1128
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: They get Toledo at home, n IU on the road

1129
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: and Miami. That's a tough top half of the schedule.

1130
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: Indiana State, Georgia, Southern at Western at Eastern, home against

1131
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,959
Speaker 1: Central at Bowling Green and Kent. Those are the games

1132
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: that they could win. So I mean, this is just

1133
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: a pure pass for me. In terms of the new

1134
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: pieces that they have on offense, I don't know if

1135
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: the Laane Hatcher experience is going to work. I'm a

1136
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: believer in Cooper, particularly with this offensive line. I think

1137
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I'll have a good year. But in general, there's teams

1138
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm more interested in playing from the west, So this

1139
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: is the first one that I'm kind of lukewarm on.

1140
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts. I lo on a team that

1141
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: at times, I mean, certainly during the COVID year they

1142
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: had their breakout season. I don't know, it just it

1143
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: feels like they've been treading water a little bit, and

1144
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: sometimes it's better to bottom out and go to a

1145
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: new coaching staff as opposed to keep bumping up against

1146
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: this this ceiling that seems to be six or seven

1147
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: wins for them.

1148
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's boring, but again, I think they

1149
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: kind of stay right there and tread water. You know,

1150
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: I give him credit for you know, they lose all

1151
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: mac running back Carts and Cel replace him with all

1152
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: mac running back marcuz Cooper. So that's a good save there.

1153
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm with you. We've watched a lot of Lane Hatcher

1154
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: from you know, Arkansas State to Texas State and now

1155
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 3: at Ball State, and you know, I just I don't know.

1156
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: I think he's just, you know, just kind of a guy.

1157
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: He's not anything special.

1158
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: You met.

1159
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: The tight ends are nasty, I'll give you that. You know,

1160
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: last year they couldn't stop the run at all, and

1161
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: then now I think I have some questions about their

1162
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: past defense as well. If they lose a lot in

1163
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: their secondary They start the year at Kentucky at Georgia,

1164
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: so you know, by the time you get into conference play,

1165
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 3: who knows they have guys left standing. And the concern

1166
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 3: with them is every single year they just tank at

1167
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: the end of the season. They always startled down the stretch.

1168
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 3: Since twenty fifteen, they're five and twenty in the month

1169
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: of November, so and that's you know, basically the entire

1170
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: time that with his face has been there. So that's

1171
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: a concern. You know, why can't they finish seasons strong?

1172
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: It happens every single year. They just tank at the

1173
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: end of the year. So I'm gonna stay away from

1174
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: them as well.

1175
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna continue to pile on the boys from months

1176
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: a year.

1177
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm yeah, under or nothing year. But I passed

1178
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: that they were super young last year, so you hope

1179
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: some of that experience pops. But I'm not a huge

1180
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: thatcher guy. Although it'll be better than last year, but look,

1181
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: they put it like six or seven career FBS catches

1182
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. Yes, titanroom is good. You'll see a

1183
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: lot of two tight end sets, but I'm also concerned

1184
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: about the right side of the offensive line. The secondary.

1185
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: Mentioned they lost four starters who started forty five of

1186
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: forty eight games over the last last year, so they

1187
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 2: were not hurt. And they had four starters only missed

1188
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: three games. They're all gone. You're relying on freshmen and

1189
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: transfers without experience in that secondary. Big special teams turnover

1190
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: second straight year, I think that could end up being

1191
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: an absolute disaster. And then they host a lot of

1192
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: the top teams in the division outside. You know, you

1193
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: do host Ken State, which should be a win. You

1194
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: have Indiana State at home, it should be a win,

1195
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: Eileen under but close enough with the number where I

1196
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: didn't play anything, no inch that don't see the upside

1197
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: with this team. They're born, ain't walking through that door.

1198
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: That's right. Ball State is not relying on Drew Plitt

1199
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: these days. All right, Let's move on to the chips.

1200
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: Fire up chips, all right, Central Michigan win total set

1201
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: at five. Send their on line starts, return negative three

1202
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: point five in the tarp, negative seven on an offense alone.

1203
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: That's bad.

1204
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: Thirteen retorting starters. Here's the question, is it the Burden

1205
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Manual show? Is Paul Petrino really gonna let it rip

1206
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: and just put him out there in the shotgun and

1207
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: let him do the read option? He killed Buffalo last year.

1208
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: One of the breakout performances of the entire season. Two

1209
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards on the ground against the Bulls.

1210
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: They have a good O line and they got Mary

1211
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: and Luke's and Miles Bailey back as a one to

1212
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: two punch at running back. The passing game though borderline,

1213
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, non existent. The defense is solid, returns a

1214
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of experienced nine starters in total. The schedule early

1215
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: on I think is going to really beat them down

1216
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: a little bit at Michigan State, at Notre Dame, at

1217
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: South Alabama. Those are three very difficult opponents to go

1218
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: on the road to play. So from a win total,

1219
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: not interested in five. Certainly not interested in them coming

1220
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and winning this conference. But I think

1221
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: September could undervalue them if they get crushed by Notre Dame,

1222
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: if they get crushed by South Alabama, I think they

1223
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: have some interesting gimmes. They got acron at home, but

1224
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: no Kent State on the schedule, which is a bit

1225
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: of a shame. They go to Buffalo, they go to Ohio,

1226
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: they got Toledo at home home against NIU. I'm just

1227
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: going to try to buy him, you know, if the

1228
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: market's two down on them, you know, mid season in

1229
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: October and they're getting four or five points, that baked

1230
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: in extra value offensively, I just don't know. I mean,

1231
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: it could be a manual the whole way, and they

1232
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: could open it up and just let him run where

1233
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: they could go in a different direction. So I'm not

1234
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: necessarily sold on this. When you look at what Petrino

1235
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: did in all his years with Idaho, that's not generally

1236
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: the way he likes to coach his offense. So this

1237
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: await and see team for me? Am I missing anything?

1238
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: You're stuck? I know that Central is a team that, unfortunately,

1239
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, lost a lot of pieces, losing things in

1240
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. So do they lose their identity fully?

1241
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: And is this a team that's kind of a wait

1242
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: and see for you?

1243
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: Let's take a shot with the chips. So taking a

1244
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm taking a shot. You can find a thirty to

1245
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: one out there there might pick in this division. They

1246
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: kind of got Miami Ohio and then Central Michigan. Let

1247
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: this is a team that, like after last year, now

1248
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: they come in and by the way, I think Mackwohn

1249
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: took them from winless to the MAC title game before,

1250
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: so really good coach. And last year everything went wrong

1251
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: everything I mean they were they lost all their receivers

1252
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: and two NFL tackles. MAC teams don't have two NFL tackles.

1253
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: They Central Michigan did, lost them both lost their offensive line, coach,

1254
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: and then look at the injuries. Last year. We're insane

1255
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: at running back, wide receiver, tight end, de defensive back.

1256
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. They were ninus four million in turnovers.

1257
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: Everything went wrong last year, and yeah, I could go

1258
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: through a lot of the rosters. There's definitely some questions.

1259
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: They're they're young, they need some transfers to hit. But

1260
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: I don't really love the schedule. They have seven road

1261
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: games and they should start one to three. Like you said,

1262
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: their last four opponents all come off of a buy somehow.

1263
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how the hell that happened.

1264
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: But.

1265
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: You know they host the top three teams from the division.

1266
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: That's massive. And this is an Emmanuel podcast. And if

1267
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: he's a wild card, I mean we saw his running ability.

1268
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: We don't know if he can progress as a passer

1269
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: or who he's throwing it to necessarily, but he's a

1270
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: great fit for the patrinal offense and if he progresses

1271
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: a little bit with this staff, I'm buying low on

1272
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: the Chips who bottomed out after last year. Taking a

1273
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: shot on c m U.

1274
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: All right, so I dip my toe in Stucky is

1275
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: basically in the Chips costume, flipping around the sign outside

1276
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: of the strip. Mall come on in, this is where

1277
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: the bandwagon's at. Are you also in on this team

1278
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: or is I mean somebody's got to lose some games

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Speaker 1: in the West, right, fire up chips.

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Speaker 3: Stucky said everything I need to know. I'm the first

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Speaker 3: person to admit I have a very simple, very tiny brain,

1282
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: and when I see something, I make an impression and

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Speaker 3: it sticks and I can't get it out of my head.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it on the FAU podcast with Kasey Thompson.

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Speaker 3: But when Bert Emmanuel came in in the second half

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: against Buffalo and ran for two hundred and ninety three

1287
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Speaker 3: yards with three touchdowns, my brain, said Mike Vick, and

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01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: it has not left my brain, especially in the maroon.

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: He is electric. He is maybe my favorite player in

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01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: college football that doesn't go to Penn State. Over the

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Speaker 3: last three games of the season, he had four hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty six yards and a touchdown on the ground.

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Speaker 3: He He's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Jase Bauer is also back. He's he can run too.

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Speaker 3: He passed a little bit more, but he wasn't really

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Speaker 3: great at it. My hope, and I'm sure it's Stucky's hope,

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01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: is they give Emmanuel the full Lynn Bowden junior treatment.

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Speaker 3: Just give him the entire offense, let him run the

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Speaker 3: ball every play. They lose low Nickels, so they don't

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Speaker 3: really have anyone else to run the ball. I think

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: their defense is gonna be very good. Their secondary should

1303
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: be nasty. You know, Dante Kent and the Javion Stephaney

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: are both six, so I like their defense.

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Speaker 2: And we have linebacker by the way going into last

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: year too, and they most of them come back.

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Speaker 3: We always knock teams. You brought it up for Western

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky that thrive on turnovers and that they're due for regression. Well,

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: with Central Michigan it's the opposite because this team got

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Speaker 3: no turnovers last year and that's something mcleen has said repeatedly,

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Speaker 3: has been like their only focus of the spring is

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Speaker 3: like force turnovers, get loose balls, tip drills, so they're

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Speaker 3: really emphasizing that and that screwed them last year. So

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Speaker 3: I always love that when you know the coach kind

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Speaker 3: of sees the flaw and is working to fix it.

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Speaker 3: I think mcallen's a really good coach. Stuck mentioned the

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Speaker 3: quick turnaround he had, so I do trust him to

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Speaker 3: write the ship. I think this is a bold team,

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Speaker 3: so I'm going over five and a half on them.

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: I kind of wrote it down as a question mark,

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Speaker 3: and I said, someone convinced me to take over five

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Speaker 3: and a half. Stucky did so, here we go fire

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Speaker 3: up chips just so.

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Speaker 1: Ackawayne, who has a ton of head coaching experience to

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01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Western Michigan five and seven last year four and feign

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01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: conference win total three and a half. Lance Taylor takes

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: over first time head coach at any level. He was

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01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: the OC at Louisville last year. They returned three forth

1329
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: to their offensive line starts negative two point five and

1330
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: then net tarp negative five. On defense alone, a lot

1331
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: of new faces there, nine starters in total, plus their kicker.

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: It's a total rebuild on defense, and it could be

1333
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: bad because their defense kind of kept them afloat last year.

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: Five starters on the offensive line have had significant starting

1335
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: experience at some point in their career, so that could

1336
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: be a strength. Both quarterback options Salapek and Tracon Borgey

1337
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: failed to hit fifty percent of their passes last year.

1338
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: Not great, and they lose their top talents in terms

1339
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: of playmakers. Sean Tyler and Corey Krums both transferred to Minnesota.

1340
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: PJ.

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: Fleck keeping the row in the boat's canal open from

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: Western to Minnesota. Billy Cash comes in from Richmond, brand

1343
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: new air raid kind of offense. As the play caller

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: under Cash, Richmond finished in the top twenty five FCS

1345
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: and total offense passing offense, passing efficiency. This is this

1346
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: offense will be good next year when they get the

1347
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: right pieces in, when they get the right playmakers, when

1348
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: they get the right quarterback, because right now I don't

1349
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: see the right quarterback on this roster. So there's a

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01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: big fade team for me in year one. Not necessarily

1351
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: the three and a half. I think that's pretty accurately priced.

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I have them in that mid three range in terms

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01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: of their win total, But when you look at their

1354
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: wins this year or potentially winnable games. They open against

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: Saint Francis, you go in and you click that as

1356
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: a win. They were an FCS playoff team last year,

1357
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: so maybe not. And then they get Central at home,

1358
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: and we just talked about how much we like Central.

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: The rest of these games, I mean September alone, they're

1360
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: going to lose all their confidence. They got to go

1361
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: to the Carrier Dome, Iowa City and at Taledo three

1362
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: in a row in September. Wolf, So Western's a fade.

1363
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: Team for me.

1364
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to move away from the Broncos here, but

1365
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of just keep it in mind that this is

1366
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: this is a year zero situation for Lance Taylor. What

1367
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: do you think suck?

1368
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Again, too low for me to go under, but

1369
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: nothing really to write home. But the d got absolutely

1370
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 2: gut If it was three really good linebackers who started

1371
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: every game last year, did seelik moment Barnes. You also

1372
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: lose three of your top defensive backs who started every

1373
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: game last year. They always have terrible special teams, so

1374
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: expect that to be the case again. Wolf's going to

1375
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: solve all the problems now. I mean, you got a

1376
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: coaching change, bottom fifteen experience with a defense which was

1377
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: carrying you lat year. They got absolutely gutted. No thanks.

1378
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: They also had the hardest olverall schedule in the MAC

1379
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: by far in my opinion, No buye. You know you

1380
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: draw Miami, o Ohio and Bowling Green from the East.

1381
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: You don't get to play Acron or Kent State on

1382
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: your schedule. And I mean, could they get to four wins? Sure?

1383
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: I have a price of like three point three to five,

1384
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: so no value for me. You know they could beat

1385
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: Saint Francis at home. You can beat ball stayed at home,

1386
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: bowling Green at home in the finale, and then steal

1387
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: another one somewhere. I think their price about right. This

1388
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: long year for Western Michigan though, rebuild Ianello.

1389
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, calvaries. First of all, you mentioned the two quarterbacks

1390
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: who were back, who both stunk last year, but you

1391
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: didn't even mention the real story. Matt Mitchell hit the

1392
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: music Hayden Wolf from Old Dominion. Does the wolf Pack

1393
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: ride again?

1394
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: Wolf in the shot gun?

1395
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: These Cottumns asking you shall receive my friends from Hayden Wolfgang.

1396
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: Uh No, In all seriousness, I think this team's bad.

1397
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: I think the defense is going to be a mess

1398
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: for me. I actually like this under more than Kent

1399
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: State's under because they don't get to play Kent State

1400
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: and they don't get to play Akron. And you mentioned

1401
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: the Saint Francis game, who isn't even a sure win.

1402
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: But even if you give it to them, who else

1403
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 3: are they beating? And you know stucky you said, oh,

1404
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: they could beat the Steam and they could beat this team,

1405
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: and they could. They have to beat all of them,

1406
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: and you get that extra win to play with that

1407
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: you don't in the Kent State game. You know, depending

1408
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: on what book. You know, bet MGM a juice three

1409
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: and a half, which I like. There are four and

1410
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: a halfs out there that are a lot of juice

1411
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: or plus money three and a half at MGM, which

1412
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: I honestly probably like because I don't know how the

1413
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: team wins four games. You know, they should win one

1414
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: and the mac effect will have them win one or

1415
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: two more, but three more is a lot. So I

1416
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: actually like this thunder because I just don't I don't

1417
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: know who this team is beating.

1418
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go with a maction lightning round to

1419
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: close this out. Your pick to win the conference, you know,

1420
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: that can be your long shot, or it can be

1421
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: the one that you think is most likely to actually

1422
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: do it. As well as the win total, I'll get

1423
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: it started NIU seventeen to one, call on my shot.

1424
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: Love the offense. If Rockalymbardi, let's call it ten games.

1425
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: If you give me ten full games and you can

1426
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: have a couple of limp offs or you know, whatever

1427
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: situation near the end of the season when they're playing

1428
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: in bad weather and he's banged up, that's fine. Give

1429
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: me ten starts. Play the full games. They're gonna get

1430
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: to the conference Championship. I'm also gonna go under on

1431
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: Kent State. I think they are garbage. They are the

1432
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: worst FBS team, and the fact that it's two and

1433
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: a half, I can still win with them winning two games,

1434
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna go under on the Golden Flashes.

1435
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: How about you stuck, Yeah, let's go two futures. I'll

1436
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: call Miami my champ. But Miami, I think there's value

1437
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: in them this year as long as Gabbert can stay healthy.

1438
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: But they have better quarterback depth this year. But if

1439
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: you just look at the East, I think Ohio is

1440
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 2: now a bit overvalued after last year. I'm not a

1441
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: fan of what Buffalo did in the off season Bowling Green.

1442
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: I think their roster and just their talent overall is

1443
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: a step below. Not a fan of their coaching staff either.

1444
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: Akron's still a year two away. They're getting closer, but

1445
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they have what it takes to win

1446
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: the MAAC this year. Then Kent State is going to

1447
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 2: be one of, if not the worst team in the country.

1448
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: But I think Miami is the pick to come out

1449
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: of the East. I like the roster, I think the

1450
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: defense will be better, and I think all the other

1451
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: teams in the division are a bit overvalued.

1452
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: In the West.

1453
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: I think Toledo's overvalued. I don't trust Jason Candell as

1454
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: a favorite. Lose a couple of games they shouldn't. Eastern

1455
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: Michigan some of their departures and the defensive coordinator loss,

1456
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 2: I think are going to be pretty big. I still

1457
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: like Chris Creighton, but they're a tad over value in

1458
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: the futures market. Northern Illinois I could see, but I'm

1459
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: going to buy the upside of Central Michigan. Who gets

1460
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: to host all the top teams and if Manuel hits,

1461
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: I'll trust Maclin to do another magical turnaround job after

1462
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: they just got so unlucky last year in every single

1463
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 2: facet of the game. Big turnaround, fire up chips, win totals.

1464
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: I'll say under bowling Green and Buffalo overs look Northern

1465
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: Illinois and Acron.

1466
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on Miami, Ohio to win the conference eight

1467
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: to one. That's my favorite future and my favorite win

1468
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 3: total is the Buffalo under six and a half.

1469
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for the max special reminder to

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: our audience that there has been the Big Bets on

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Speaker 1: Campus podcast brought to you by Bet MGM. We are

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: going through every single conference, even splitting the SEC into

1473
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: two mega episodes East and West. That'll be calling and

1474
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: Stucky breaking it down for you. Be sure to check

1475
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: us out on your podcast feeds as well as YouTube.

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: We have the full video of every single conference preview

1477
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: and a reminder that all the reviews, the comments, the liking,

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,840
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1479
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: to say, if you have a girlfriend and friend, grab

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: their phone, also subscribe, leave some reviews. We're going to

1481
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: be giving out merch and swag along the way for

1482
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Speaker 1: the best and let's just call what it is probably

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Speaker 1: the funniest comments that we can see, so make sure

1484
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: to do that in the coming weeks. And we're just

1485
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: around the corner from week zero, so our conference previous

1486
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: season starting to wind down a little bit. We're gonna

1487
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: get into some Heisman futures talk and then right into

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