1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: All right, third hour, Clay and Buck get's going right now, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: and we have a few things to talk about in 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: this hour, some some news items. For some I mentioned 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: home alone in the last hour and some One of 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: our VIPs came to me with this. I just wanted 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: to be clear that vip David says the parents did 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: try calling the neighbors. In fact, the wet bandits were 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: robbing one of them and heard Kevin's mother leave a 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: message on the answering machine okay to Shay bar from fencing. There. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: You see, we're bringing all together. Point taken, However, I 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: mean I think they could have called like the local 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: police and said we have a kid home alone, right, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are ways to get this done. Right. Oh, 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: but I guess Kevin convinced people that there were adults 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: in the house. I see. I haven't seen the movie 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: in a while, but I do love the movie. It's 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: a very very fun movie. Although the tarantula scene still, 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, people had pet tarantulas for a while. Think 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: about that that was a thing, that was a thing. 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, does anyone in this audience have a 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: pet tarantula? We you guys are amazing. I can ask 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: someone to call in to tell me about a you know, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: a form of brain surgery that's only been performed like 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: twice yet in history, and we'll have some expert call on. 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: I'll ask, how do we, you know, fix excessive rotor 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: wash on a black Hawk helicopter? And I can I 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: can crowdsource any knowledge. But does anyone in this audience 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: have a pet tarantula? I just feel like that's that's 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: a bridge too far, Like that's a little too crazy. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: I mean, of all the things to have as that, 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: and I'm all for it. Don't tell my wife. I 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: think having like a pet fox would be really cool. 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I've talked about this before. I know they dig a lot, 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: that's what people say. They they're really into that, and 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: they they mark their territory a lot. So that's maybe 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: a little more difficult, but I think they're really cute anyway. 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: I just that was the thing at home alone that 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: that always stuck with me as a kid, was the 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: the tarantula scene was really that was not for me, 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: all right? And what else did they have here? Oh? 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: How did Kevin. How did hom Alone's McAllister family afford 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: their ultra lavish lifestyle. Finance experts reveal how much Kevin's 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: parents would have to earn to pay for their huge 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: mansion and first clap trips to Paris. People. This is 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: on the Deli mail right now. People are going deep 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: into home alone lore this time of year. I wonder 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: how many the house I like. It's like a what 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: is it, A like a colonial revival kind of style. 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: I guess you'd call it. I don't know. It's brick 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: sort of brick fassan. It's nice. It's nice, all right. 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: Enough of the home alone stuff for a little bit. 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: I want to dive into something that is in the 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: headlines once again. Harvard President Claudine Gay faces forty four 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: zero new allegation of plagiarism with seven publications. And there's 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: a side by side of this. The thing about this 58 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: is that you can you can speaking of crowdsourcing, the 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: evidence can be shown for any to see. This is 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: what she published as a graduate student, which is I 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: guess the post publicly available stuff or for a thesis 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: she wrote or dissertation she wrote. And here is other 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: published work and what you can see is that the 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: president of Harvard is a plagiarist. Wow, isn't that Isn't 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: that so straightforward? Like why do they have to pretend? Well, 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: we know we'll get into while the after pretend. But 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: it's very obvious that there is an issue here. Over 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: at CNN, Jake Tapper asked the question, so we can 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: hear or even CNN knows this is apparent, This is 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: what is going on. Harvard's got a problem on its hands. 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: This is cut nineteen play. 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: It is Harvard University really holding its president, Claudine Gay, 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: doctor Claudine Gay to the same standards when it comes 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: to the plagiarism that it would assail for students committing 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: the same offense. Harvard's top governing body set a review 76 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: revealed quote inadequate citations by doctor Gay in a few instances, 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: but quote no violation of Harvard's standards for research misconduct unquote. 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: Critics of doctor Gay and Harvard's review of the allegations 79 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: say that there is a double standard going on here. 80 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: The big question, I think in the future is how 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: will Harvard be able to punish any students found guilty 82 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: of the same offense without inviting a lawsuit. 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: There's clearly a double standard, and it's indefensible. It's it 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: couldn't be more obvious. And to this, I would just add, 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: I would add that this is this Who is it 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: that said that if the Democrats didn't have double standards, 87 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: they'd have no standards? Is there someone who that quote 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: is attributed to? I've I've heard it many times. It's 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: certainly apt. It's it's accurate. See, I don't want to 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: plagiarize the quote. 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't know who said it. I'm putting the quotation 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: marks on it, but it did. Pap. You can and 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: say that first. Am I right on that one? Maybe anyway, 95 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: someone checked me on that one. 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: But there's a double standard, just like the double standard 98 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: where if you didn't pay taxes for five years or 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: whatever it was, and millions of dollars of income and 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: you hit it intentionally through dummy LLC's and passed through corporations. 101 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Unless you're Hunter Biden, you're going to prison. Probably we're 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: going to prison. I can see, you know, kept away 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: from your family, locked in a cell. Prison for that 104 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: for you? For me, oh yeah, Hunter Biden, not gonna 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: spend a day. They didn't even want to prosecute him, 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: and now he's not going to spend a day in prison. 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: As you know, I've said that all along, and I 108 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: can continue to be my cynicism. Unfortunately, when it comes 109 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: to the Biden crime family and the Democrat apparatus is 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: pretty consistently rewarded by being correct, right. I mean, I 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: just I'll just put this out there. My cynical approach 112 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: to the Democrats means that I kind of know what 113 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: they're going to do and how they're going to play it. 114 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: And that's certainly accurate as well as you look at 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: the president of Harvard and what's going to go on here. 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: They're just going to twist language and words and play 117 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: games and stall and delay and oh, we're on holiday. 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: The Plagiarism Research Committee is all on you know, Christmas 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: or Honika or Kwanza holiday, right, so we're all just 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: not going to pay any attention to this, and they 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: hope that it goes away and that in the new 122 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: year people will just focus on something else. What I've 123 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: said this to you, and I do think it's it's 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: important to remember this. It bears repeating as a result 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: that president Gay wanted a and she she is an 126 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: entirely unexceptional academic. Based on her body of work and 127 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: the publishing she's done, she's really a bottom percentile academic. 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: And that's just you can check that how many things 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: has she published? How how many books books has she written? 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Publish or perish is the cliche in academia, and published 131 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: very much at all, elevated, elevated, elevated all the way 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: up to being the president of Harvard University. I think 133 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: she was a dean at one point, she was a 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: professor before that. It just has an entirely unremarkable and 135 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: really really kind of paltry publishing record. And now on 136 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: top of it, so it's a minimal record of publishing. 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: And on top of that, she's lifting passages. Now, I 138 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: if you read the if you're really honest about this, oh, 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: people are gonna get all crazy on me. But if 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: you're really honest about this, you know there are gray 141 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: areas in the plagiarism stuff, meaning you know, okay, you're 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: borrowing an idea, but is this an original idea or 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: is this more of a fact? And you know, so 144 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: you know, when in doubt you cite is basically how 145 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: it goes. But there's a little bit if you read 146 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: the regulations like oh, you're getting this idea from this person, 147 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: or if you know, if you obviously, but if you 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: take block quotes of someone else's straight up language and 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: don't cite it and don't quote it, you're plagiarizing. Like 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, there are the gray areas, and then there's this. 151 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: This is not a gray area, And in academia this 152 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: is treated very seriously because this is the work product 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: of all these different people, and you know it's an 154 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: ethical issue, but also the whole system sort of collapses 155 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: if you can just copy someone's paper and hand it 156 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: in as your own. We're all geniuses, right. What you 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: have here, though, is they can't give in on this. Again, 158 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: my cynicism is part of my prescience, part of my 159 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: ability to predict, because I understand, I understand the other side. 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: I believe it was the great philosopher Wesley Snipes in 161 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: the movie Blade, who says, when you understand the nature 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: of a thing, you understand what it is capable of. 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: And I understand the nature of the DEI system. I 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: know the lengths Blade. Underrated movie, by the way, not 165 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: a Christmas movie, and I can't even recommend it because 166 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of violence and stuff. They're not 167 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: good for the kids, but you know, for the adults, 168 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: pretty good back in then, pretty good throwback superhero movie 169 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: if you like superhero movies. But Wesley Snipes, if I 170 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: remember correctly, because I've seen that movie too many times, 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: does say that. And I understand, I was a Wesley 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Snipes fan of the nineties. I understand that the DEI 173 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: system begins to collapse if you hold people in the 174 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: de system. The whole point is that they're not held 175 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: to the same standards as other people. But the whole 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: point of elevating underrepresented minorities is they don't have the 177 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: same record, they don't have the same skills or skill set, 178 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: they don't have the same achievement, but we're going to 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: pretend that they do, because by creating that facade, we 180 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: have a better, more inclusive, and more diverse society. This 181 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: is the argument, right, I mean, and they always run 182 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: into this. Cognitive dissonance is a very important term here, 183 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: because they'll say, how dare you say they're changing the 184 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: standards and say, okay, well, then why why can't you 185 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: just keep using the SAT at this school. Oh, if 186 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: you use the SAT, then it's clear that you are 187 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: changing standards. So they have to get rid of it 188 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: at different places. Right, we all understand this. This standardized 189 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: testing is you know, you could say merit and achievement 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: objectively understood are the greatest enemies of DEI. The DEI establishment. 191 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Standardized testing, though, is probably also the one that just 192 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: you know, because remember we're told that one of the 193 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: reasons we need DEI in the first place, one of 194 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: the reasons we have to elevate people like the president 195 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: of Harvard to you know, she's making seven figures and 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: she's on fireable and she has all this power and 197 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: prestige and all this stuff. We have to do this 198 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: because society is so unfair that people from underrepresented groups 199 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: don't get a fair chance to do these things. And 200 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: then we sit there go, I mean, there's there are 201 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: plenty of people in society from all different backgrounds who 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: have been amazingly successful. You know, there are there are black, 203 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: black billionaires, there's been a black president. There's there you know, 204 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: are Latinos, and you go down the list, you say, no, Actually, 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: in America, it's possible for anyone to be an incredible success, 206 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: become incredibly influential and wealthy. But it's not possible for 207 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: everyone to right. And this is why the problem that 208 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Harvard ran into initially was the Asian achievement issue. As 209 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: in Asians as a group, as an ethnic group in 210 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: this in this country, overachieve relative to the rest of 211 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: the demographics. Asians do better on standardized tests on average, 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: just facts. Supreme Court dealt with this. I know people, 213 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: you could notice whenever you talk about this stuff, there 214 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: are people just ah they get along. Are you allowed 215 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: to say that? 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 5: Don't know? 217 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: It sounds you're talking about how well the Asians do 218 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: on standardized testing. Sounds a little little too right wing 219 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: for me or something. What. It's just reality, It's just facts, 220 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: the truth. We all know it. It's numbers. It's not opinion. 221 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: It's numbers. And that's what brought down the whole diversity 222 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: and inclusion affirmative action edifice in the Supreme Court. At 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: least now, it's taking a long time for this to 224 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: continue to This fight is gonna be ongoing. There's gonna 225 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: have to be a lot of lawsuits, and they're gonna 226 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: have to be situations like this, and that's why bring 227 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: it full circle back here to doctor Gay. They cannot 228 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: allow her to be fired for this, because if she 229 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: can be fired for this, who else can be fired 230 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: for this? Meaning not just plagiarism, but other people who 231 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: underperform when they've been elevated because of the superficial characteristics 232 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: that the DEI apparatus is obsessed with. Underperformance or poor 233 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: performance in your job should be the grounds then for removal, 234 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: and that starts to open up the well, where else 235 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: is that going to be the case? Where else are 236 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: you going to have people who are judged by objective 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: metrics visa the their peer group in academia or wherever, 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: instead of just the presence of this person in this 239 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: role because of their race, or their sexual orientation or whatever. 240 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: Just their presence is in itself an unassailable good that 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: cannot be questioned because ultimately, that's what DEI is all about. Ultimately, 242 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: that's where it always ends up. That's where it always 243 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: falls apart for those who apply logic, reason and rationality 244 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: also enemies of the DEI apparatus. As it stands, I 245 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: tell you all this, and I analyze it, and I 246 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: say to you, she's going to keep her job. She's 247 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: going to keep her job. You watch going to keep 248 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 2: your job because they haven't been pushed enough, not enough lawsuits, 249 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: not enough. Honestly, the left wing DEI system has not 250 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: suffered enough losses or enough financial pain to abandon any 251 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: of this yet. And it's going to be a long 252 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be a long drawn out battle to 253 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: get them to adhere to both the letter and spirit 254 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: of the Supreme Court decision that came down on affirmative action. 255 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: In all of it. Now is when now is when 256 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: the fighting over this happens, right, So keep that in mind. 257 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: You know, a friend of this program, Dutch menden Hall, 258 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: became an author book author for the first time this year. 259 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: And look, I know the hard work that goes into writing. 260 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing it myself these days. It's no easy feat 261 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: a lot of hours spent alone, a lot of hours going. 262 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: I wish I could go out and you know, play 263 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: tennis and hang out with everybody, but no, I must 264 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: write my book. I must write my book book. That 265 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: so what I'm telling myself today after the show. But Dutch, 266 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: he's done a great book. It's called Money Shackles. He 267 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: runs a company with a co founder, Rad Diversified, that 268 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: specializes in identifying alternative investments, many of them in real estate, 269 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: and creating increased wealth for all of those working with 270 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: Rad Diversified. So this new book by Dutch, money Shackles, 271 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: takes on the topic of debt and how to productively 272 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: use it. If you have car loan debt, student loan debt, 273 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: just name a couple of examples. Dutch shows you how 274 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: to use that to your advantage. To him, it's not 275 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: a bad thing, it's a productive thing, but you have 276 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: to know the right strategies, the right way to do it, 277 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: and he guides you into alternative investment vehicles that can 278 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: be very lucrative. Dutch's way to redefine your American dream 279 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: is to well, first do this read money Shackles. Okay, 280 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: get ready for the redefined American dream. With money Shackles. 281 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: Go to money shackles dot com. Break free from your 282 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: money shackles today. That website again is money shackles dot com. 283 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Chief a real keeping it honest. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Well, 284 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: I learned something new today that quote because we wanted 285 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: to attribute it properly. We can't be complaining about the 286 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: president of Harvard's plagiarism alleged, but it's not a crime, 287 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: So do we have to say allege. I don't think 288 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: we have to say alleged, because she did it and 289 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: it's not a crime, so it's just bad plagiarism. I've 290 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: always heard this. If liberals didn't have double standards they have, 291 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: they'd have no standards. It comes from celebrated screenwriter Bert Prolutsky. 292 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna tell you right now, I had never 293 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: heard of Bert until right the team did some some 294 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: digging for me. I had thought, you know, it sounds like, 295 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know something. I think I said, Buchanan, 296 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: maybe Mankin, maybe, uh, you know, any number of people 297 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: Milton Friedman could have even said it, or I don't know, 298 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: like you would think it's somebody like that. Iron RAN's 299 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: not funny, so I don't think it would be an 300 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: un Ran thing, Let's be honest. But Perlutsky, good for him, 301 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: apparently has other funny things he said too. He was 302 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: a Writer's Guild of America guy, screenwriter Nash a whole 303 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: bunch of of of shows and series, So good for him. 304 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something I shouldn't have. I walked 305 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: into this. I walked into this web. You could say 306 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: by saying I don't think anyone in this audience has 307 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: a pet tarantula. It turns out we got a lot 308 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: of tarantula owners in this audience. As pets doesn't count 309 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: if it wanders into your house, Okay once in a while, 310 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: that's just that's a pest problem. You have a pet tarantula. 311 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: We got a bunch of people. I gotta ask questions. 312 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: I gotta know, do you put like a little Santa 313 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 2: hat on the tarantula this time of year? You know? 314 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: Did you bond with them? This is crazy to me, 315 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: but Suran, I shouldn't. I should never doubt. There's always 316 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: there's always an expert in whatever it is we're talking 317 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: about in this audience, and tarantula ownership is apparently one 318 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: of them. Blinds are gonna be wide open here, Team 319 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: eight hund two two eight to eight A two, give 320 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: us a call. And speaking of calls and lines, Pure 321 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Talk Puretalk is my cell phone company has been for years. 322 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: You know what's great about them. I've never had a 323 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: problem with my connection and my service, my customer service. 324 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: When I just wanted to set it up. 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I'm not actually going to New York City, 342 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: but I saw this thing about how New York City 343 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: has made Airbnbs less than thirty days no longer allowed, 344 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: and so the average hotel room in New York City's 345 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: up twenty percent. I mean it was already too expensive, 346 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: but now it's way too expensive. It's crazy, crazy stuff. 347 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy stuff, I should have known better, I said, 348 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: do we have anybody? I don't think any of this 349 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: audience actually has a pet Taranian? Now why do I 350 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: bring this up? I brought it up because in the 351 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: movie Home Alone, which is a great Christmas movie, there's 352 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: a scene where one of the burglars is bitten by 353 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: it's not Kevin's pet Tarantial, it's buzz his Is it 354 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: his brother or his cousin? His brother right? Older brother? 355 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean they look nothing alike, but is his brother right? Yeah? 356 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: So we got a bunch of people John and Staten 357 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: Island says he has a he had a tranto for 358 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: the kids, and they're actually buying a new one today, John, 359 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: are you messing with me? 360 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: No? 361 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: No, no, buck, how you doing? We're gonna have one 362 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: under the tree and it's not gonna have a Santa 363 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 5: hat on them. 364 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: But okay, explain explain this to me, Like, what like 365 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Trano is a pat why, why, how do we get there? 366 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: What's the what's the upside? 367 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 5: They have an adventurous spirit. I'm one of those paths. 368 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 5: You know, we all all the crazy things we do 369 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 5: for our kids. So they go on adventures. It says 370 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 5: like a hunts of things, clues and this and that, 371 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: traps and all that. There's a treasure hunt. They found 372 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: a tarantula at the end. They were surprised. My daughter's 373 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 5: kind of like the tomboys. She's got crabscot livid and 374 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: uh yeah, they saw it. They're surprised. 375 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: They loved it. 376 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, they did accidentally kill the first one. Poor Curly 377 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 5: rest in peace. And so this is a curly second chance, 378 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 5: a little resurrection of the tarantula. It'll be under the tree, 379 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: big surprise. They're gonna be the say them. 380 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: You're gonna have Can you send it an email to 381 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: our team. I want to see a photo of the 382 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: tarantula under the tree. Is there any do they you 383 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: know they look scary? Do they actually do you have 384 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: to worry about them? I know they're not like really venomous, right, 385 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: but they have the big they have the big is 386 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: it not not pincers? What do you call it fangs, 387 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Do they bite or is that not really a thing? 388 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm not touching it. I skiw them that people have. 389 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 5: Do you go to the pet stores, they have scorpions, 390 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: they have pet roaches, cockroaches. Not touching the thing. It's 391 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: very low maintenance. From what I hear. I think they're prickly. 392 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 5: They can irritate your skin. There's the fancy word for 393 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 5: the hairs in their body. I don't know. I'm not 394 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: touching the thing, and it's low maintenance. You put it 395 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: in the corner, your spray of the water, throw some 396 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: crickets in there. You're done, and that's for them. 397 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So you don't handle it like it's just in there. 398 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: To look at it, it's almost like a fish pretty much, okay, 399 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: because it could it could like bite somebody with those things, right, 400 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that which wouldn't be good. 401 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: Take the next call and ask them. 402 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 403 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: My kids are crazy. I'm crazy, but we go all 404 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: out for the kids. 405 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: So hey, John and Staten Island. First of all, you 406 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: remind me of home. Second of all, just to me 407 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: a favor, don't don't let Sanda get bitten by the tarentula. 408 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: This year. All right, buddy, keep your hands clear of 409 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: the cage. All right, Thank you, thank you John, thanks 410 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: for calling in. Oh my god, you get more. You 411 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: people are you? I love you people. You people are nuts. 412 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: You people are nuts. Jeff In Fort Myers, Florida paranngela 413 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: for five years. Can you answer the So it's basically 414 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: just like like a terrarium or aquarium pad. Right, You 415 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: never touch it. It doesn't crawl over your shoulders or anything 416 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: or your hand. You just have it to look at, 417 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: Is that right? 418 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 419 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 420 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: And definitely the most exciting time is feeding time. As 421 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 6: you can see him strategizing how to get those bugs. 422 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 6: That was always a good time. My son Josh had 423 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: him out from time to time. Uh, really crawled across us, 424 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 6: just kind of get him out to get it some exercise. 425 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 6: But he's a he was a good guy. My son 426 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 6: uncovered him during construction work. He died December of twenty 427 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 6: twenty Christmas. Uh, and we just uncovered him in his 428 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 6: little casket, uh, two days ago with construction work. So 429 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 6: now we get to talk about his tarantula all over again. 430 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: You had a little tarantula casket we did Yehow I'm learning. 431 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm learning all kinds of things today. 432 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 6: Covered up man he was. We haven't taken him out 433 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 6: of it yet, but it looks like he's pretty much intact. 434 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: And because little casket there. 435 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well thank you. I very very interesting stuff. 436 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, spiders, I'll just say this. I 437 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: go snake before I go spider as a pet. And 438 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: I'm not a reptile guy in general. I hold the 439 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: animals with fur. Are you know? Those are my that's 440 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: those are my special I like those. And then we 441 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: get to reptiles for me, the Iraq Nids. That's where 442 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: we really start to get into another another space, another place. 443 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: Are I think score are scorpions technically in Iraq Nid? 444 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: I think I think they are. I also believe, and 445 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the team fact check me in this 446 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: in real time. I did not google this. I don't 447 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: know why I know this, but I believe the name 448 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: tarantula is related to the dance that was done in 449 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Italy called the Tarantella, which they thought if you were 450 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: bitten by a tarantula and you did this dance, you 451 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: would not like the venom wouldn't hurt you. Check that 452 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: one guys. That may be the problem with the Internet, 453 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: as Abraham Lincoln once said, is there's so much stuff 454 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: on the Internet that's not true, and you just got 455 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: to keep you gotta keep your eyes open. But I 456 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: believe the Tarantella thing may be true. There's some there's 457 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: some crossover there. Joseph in Pennsylvania wants to weigh in 458 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: on plagiarism. Gait. 459 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 7: What's up, Joseph, Hey, So, when I was in college 460 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 7: about twenty years ago, I had an issue where I 461 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 7: was considered and called out that I plagiarized the process 462 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 7: that I. 463 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 8: Had to go to without being expelled from this college. 464 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: It was insane. 465 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 8: I had to colead with these people to keep me. 466 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 8: And how I actually won was I printed out articles 467 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 8: of that day from people that wrote for Yahoo and 468 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 8: Google to show that people make human eras make mistakes. 469 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 8: And these are coming from you know, writers that write 470 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 8: for Yahoo and you know Google, and it's getting past 471 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 8: the editors. So there is human mistake, there is human error. 472 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: Well, of course, and this is what this is what 473 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: I was saying before. I mean, if if you're writing 474 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: a book, let's say, and you're going to have three 475 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: hundred five hundred citations if you missed one citation, or 476 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: you a plagiarist? I mean, you know, this is like 477 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: if you jaywalk, are you a criminal? Do we off 478 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: the walk around calling you a criminal? 479 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 8: No? 480 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: There's obviously greats and and there's you know, levels of 481 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: these things. But what doctor Gay is accused of is 482 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: informal papers as a career academic in graduate school, just 483 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: copy and copy and pasting whole sections. And she didn't 484 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: publish very much. More than half of her publicly published 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: work contains uh information that is or you know, contains 486 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: writing that is plagiarized? Am I right about the Tarantella? Guys? 487 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: Is this what you're telling me? Yeah, there's an Italian 488 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: folk dance called the Tarantella that relates to the tarantula 489 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: in some capacity. I can't read it. You guys got 490 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: to tell me if I'm right? Am I? I am right? 491 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: The Buckster nails it. He even knows things about furry spiders. 492 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: That's why you tune in every day. You never know 493 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: what you're going to get here on the show. Uh 494 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: and now we've got let me see, we got one, 495 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: We've got one more here? Oh yes, doctor Jason, I'm 496 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: assuming an academic. He's a North Carolina a research scientist. 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: What's up, doctor j. 498 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: Hey, sir, how are you doing? 499 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: Thanks to take good. 500 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: So I'll tell you here this story you know days ago. 501 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: My stomach, my stomach sank as. I think a lot 502 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: of us that do research for a living take a 503 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 4: lot of pride in our in our work. We have integrity. 504 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: This is science that we are producing for future generations 505 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: to ask further research questions. But plagiarism at that level, 506 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: although it's absolutely horrible on doctor Kay's part, it does 507 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 4: open your mind too to the larger problem in academia 508 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: and how it got that far. I've sat on many 509 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: as chair of many dissertations committees, and boy, I take 510 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: that personal. I I look at that doctoral students work 511 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: with a fine tooth. Come. We can't have any reproducing 512 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: uh what they consider firsthand knowledge based on somebody else's 513 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: academic work. I take this work seriously. We don't do 514 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: this type of work for money for fame. We do 515 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: it because we love what we do and we want 516 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: to advance the science, to advance people, healthcare, social sciences, 517 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: world science. I mean, whatever the outcome may be. 518 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: That I hear you you do it for for passion, 519 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: passion for the work. But let me ask you this. 520 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: I should the president of Harvard be fired. 521 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And unfortunately I've let students go in doctoral programs 522 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: before for these similar issues because we can't have that. 523 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: We just can't have it. It has to be clean. But 524 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 4: you know, through my years in academia, as I've gone 525 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: now into my third decade, it's it's pervasive. I see it, 526 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: and in fact. 527 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: It's recent and with AI and everything, it's all only 528 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: gonna get I think. I mean, some ways it's easier 529 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: to find people, but also there's more and more ways 530 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: to construct things that you haven't written. And we'll see. 531 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in, doctor Jason. Guys, we're gonna 532 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: chat a little bit more here. We're gonna close up 533 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: shop in just a few minutes, but I wanted to 534 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: take more of your calls. Also give you some Christmas thoughts. 535 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: Tell you what we're going to talk about tomorrow on 536 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: the show. Can't Believe tomorrow will be my last, will 537 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: be my last playing Buck show for the year for 538 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. 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Get yourself. 566 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Some today need a. 567 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Break from politics, a little comedy to counter the craziness 568 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the Sunday Hang a weekend podcast to lighten things up 569 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: a bit. Find it in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, 570 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio, Apple or wherever. 571 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 2: You get your podcasts. The most popular Christmas Cookies by state. Now, 572 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: and this is getting pretty specific here for Christmas time stuff, 573 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: but I gotta say the most popular Christmas cookies by state. 574 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: We have. 575 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there's fifty states, so there's a lot of this. 576 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, New York, New York is it's ricotta cookies, 577 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: and Oklahoma is Ricotta cookies. Have you guys even had 578 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: a ricotta Christmas cookie? I didn't even know this was 579 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: a thing. Other places like let me see Illinois is 580 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: red velvet Italian Christmas cookies very popular in California. In 581 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: Texas and California both go with Italian Christmas cookies. This 582 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: is according to Delish dot com. I mean, I feel 583 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: like it's called Delish dot com. They got to know 584 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: this stuff. But yeah, peppermin Indiana is going with peppermint cookies. Really, Indiana, really, 585 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: these are some interesting ones. Gingerbread cookies out out west 586 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: in Nevada and Colorado. Also in Maine, the gingerbread gingerbread cookie, 587 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: Italian cookie. These are the top ones across the country. 588 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: So there you go. But yeah, Ricotta cookies. I didn't 589 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: even know that that was something that was going to 590 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: be on the list. Something's going to be going on 591 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: vip email are named. Joel says he had a tarantula 592 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: as a pet. It lived. She ah, part me, I 593 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: don't want to misgender. The tarantula live twenty five years. 594 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: He would let her crawl around on him from time 595 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: to time. And they won't bite unless you give them 596 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: a reason. Too. Well, darn it, No more talk on 597 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: this show of tarantula's biting people and being mean, because 598 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: apparently only it's only if you talk back to you 599 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: get a little saucy with the tarantula, and you know, 600 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: maybe it sings its fangs into you. But for the 601 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: most part, if you're just really, really really still, you 602 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: will have no problem. And it's furry legs will just 603 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: glide across your skin and yeah, gosh, I can't I 604 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: can't believe it. Oh, these are the Ricotta cookies. These 605 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: look good. Team just sent me Raca. I'm this is 606 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: the part of the show where you realize that I 607 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: don't want to get to eat lunch because I do 608 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: a radio show for three hours a day and I'm 609 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: getting hungry. But Ricotta cookies, I've got to say, Producer Mike, 610 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Producer Greg, is this is this your choice for Christmas cookies? 611 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: Number one? Are you? Well? Yeah, they're saying this is 612 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: this is the move. I mean they look they look delicious. 613 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: I like the icing, well well done on those ones. 614 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: I think that's an exceptional in exceptional choice. Red velvet cookies. 615 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know there were red velvet cookies, but 616 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: that sounds delicious. So there you go. What was the 617 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: one ray? Yeah, of course, the rain. I think that's 618 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: the Italian Christmas cookie, right, the rain When it's the 619 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: rainbow colored isn't that the Italian Christmas Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 620 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: those I see those, I see everywhere. They also sent 621 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: me this to the team. Taran Tella's origin connected with tarrantism. 622 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: It appeared in Italy in the fifteenth to seventeenth century 623 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: and was obscurely associated with the bite of the tarantula spider. 624 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: Victims seemingly were cured by frenzy dancing. This is what 625 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: the team just sent me. So, I you know, I 626 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: don't know why I knew that, but I knew that. 627 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 2: You know, I know some things. I know some things 628 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: about some stuff. Also here for all of you, we 629 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: have have the most popular Christmas movies, as evidenced by 630 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: the street Wow rainbow cookies usually made with almondflour. Oh 631 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 2: I could eat them. Yeah. Celiac disease, big, big bummer 632 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to confectionary stuff. And you know, you 633 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: can make anything great gluten free, but it's hard to 634 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: find it in a lot of places. The number one 635 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: Christmas movie according to streaming Right Now. I guess I 636 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: grew up at a time when it was all you know, 637 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: miracle on forty second Street. Did I see looks thirty 638 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: fourth Street, not forty second Street. Lord only knows what's 639 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: happening on forty second Street, and manut, I have no idea. 640 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: Santa Is like, eh, I'm a little drunk. No thirty 641 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: fourth Street, milk or Miracle on thirty fourth Street? My bad? Yeah, anyway, 642 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: I messed that one up big time. I thought the 643 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: old classics would be the primary the movies that everybody 644 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 2: get excited about ELF. ELF is along with Home Alone. 645 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: I think on the streaming service is the top Christmas 646 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: movie right now. 647 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 648 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm so. I'm not a I don't 649 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 2: know Will Ferrell. I'm not a huge, not a fan 650 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: of the work. To be honest with you, this is 651 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: not my thing. I know a lot of people love it. 652 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of his 653 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: politics either. Is that probably influences my decision making. But 654 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: I go die Hard, I mean, sorry, die Hard over ELF. Well, 655 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 2: of course that's true. I go Home Alone over ELF 656 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: a hundred times out of one hundred. I think that's 657 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: a close one. Everybody. Tomorrow my last show with you 658 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: for the year, So I'm excited to get to hang 659 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: out with you. One more time before I take off 660 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: for Christmas, Harry's birthday, my birthday, a lot of time 661 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: with the dogs, maybe even some eggnog. I don't know, 662 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: maybe even some pet tarantulis. Things can get crazy in 663 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: the Sexton household. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you. Then, 664 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.