1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Baron Browning is back. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Paul Calby's he joins me. The pass rush certainly an 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: area of the Cardinals needed to address this offseason, and 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: they have. Yes, Josh, what is the splash move? The 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: first move though, that came Sunday when the team mcgrid 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: terms with Baron Browning. He has since signed and now 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: joins us. Here on the show, It's Cardinals Cover two, 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: episode eight fifty nine, and it starts now. 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: What Heart? What rent? 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: He's a the ten half of five. He's it again, 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: So let me be among the first to wish everyone 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: a happy new year, as we are come to you 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday in the middle of March. Yes, 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: it is the official starts of the new league year. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Leave it to the National Football League to have a 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: day in the middle of March as a new year 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: or in a new event, as free agency is now 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: quote unquote officially underway. 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: You know what, with all due respect to the holidays, 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: this is the shopping season, is it not. I mean, 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: tis the season to go shopping now. Unlike the Black 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: Friday deals, where you know you're looking at severe discounts, 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: not exactly the case in free agency. You're not going 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: to find a lot of things on sale, at least 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: not in the first couple of days, that's for sure. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Dare I say you might even overpay a little bit. 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: But you know how it works, Craig, if you want 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: quality in this world? Okay, And what's the old saying 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: that my old man used to tell me. The cheap 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: man pays twice. So if you go cheap the first 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: time around, well, guess what, it doesn't work or a 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: break so or it doesn't last very long. You just 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: got have to pay for quality on the second time around. 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: So you know what, better to just go shopping for 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: quality the first time around. 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the Black Friday sales, the Memorial Day weekend. 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: Sales, the Labor Day sales. 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: There's no sales in the National Football League when it 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: comes to a discount for teams because I found this 48 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: interesting and I know you're gonna dissect this and eventually 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: you'll give us your off season. 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: What is the Rex Rex? 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: Right? 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean who wins the off season? That's right? I 53 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: mean Rex Ryan once upon a time proclaimed himself and 54 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: the Bills the winners of the off season, and then 55 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: he had a four win campaign. So it doesn't always 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: correlate winning the off season with winning the regular season, 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: all right. So here's an early. 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Team to consider might have won the off season day 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: one of the two day negotiating window, and this is 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: from the league itself. They sent out these emails and 61 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: of course I read all of them. Day one, the 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings spent in excess of two hundred and sixty 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: million dollars on six different signings or agreed to terms. 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Well Fries Bira and Murphy junior Jonathan Allen accounted for 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: most of that. But again, as they say, sometimes you 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: get what you pay for. Yet we've seen with the 67 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals historically sometimes there's a certain player Jordan Phillips 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: that sometimes you do pay in the offseason and it 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: just doesn't materialize in the regular season. 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: So with the Vikings, Let's see, they got bullied and 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: bloodied their last two games of the year, did they not? 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Against Detroit and then against the Rams, they really got 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: beat up. They didn't just get beat they got beat up. 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: So I get it. They're gonna spend money on the trenches. 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna build from the inside out. They're going with proven, 76 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: dependable talent, at least in their eyes, that's their estimation. 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: That's why they're paying the big money. But they also 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: have the luxury now of doing that with the rookie 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: quarterback contracts, So they jettison Sam Darnold, and they're like, 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's sort of like, you know, new money. 81 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: Isn't that saying I wish I knew, but new money? Right, 82 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: You come into new money, maybe inherited or whatever, you 83 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: get a winfall, you win the lottery, and then you 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: just start spending like crazy. So we'll see if the 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings live to regret that sort of spending spree 86 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: in what that does to them. We know, for example, 87 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people like to say, ah, the CAP's meaningless. 88 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: You can always navigate around the cap. Not so fast. 89 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: Look at the New Orleans Saints have been in cap 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: hell for three years, four years. Honestly, they're a longtime. 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: GM is still in charge in New Orleans, and it's 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: hard to understand why, considering the cap ramifications and how 93 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: it has hamstrung that franchise. And there's a reason why 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: they're near the top of the draft in the bottom 95 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: of the standing. So be careful. You might have the 96 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: room under the cap, doesn't mean you always have to spend. 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: It or just look closer to home. Within the division. 98 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine ers, and how many departures 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: there have been, either by their own choosing, they've been released, 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: they've left for greener pastures, or they've been traded. 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: What was the number. 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: Half of the starters twenty two starters from the Super 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago. Eleven of the twenty 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: two starters are no longer on the roster, and there 105 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: could be more depending on what happens here in the 106 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: next several weeks. 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, when the Cardinals played the last place forty nine 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: ers next year, it's gonna be. 109 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Wait a second, what happened to the last place Seahawks? Well, no, 110 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: that's that's that's so two years ago. Okay, right now, 111 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: this last year the Niners finished in the last place, 112 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: hence the last place counties n I did when I 113 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: hear last place out of your mouth, Well, I just 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: naturally assumed the Seahawks. 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just I'm looking at the standings and you know, 116 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: so there's nothing opinionated about that whatsoever. Facts as the 117 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: kids say, the last place forty nine ers, Man, have 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: they had a blood letting? Are you kidding me? Losing 119 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: their starting guard, their best interior old lineman and Aaron 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: Banks green Bay gave him four year seventy seven million 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: sixty three in the first three years. You know, they 122 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: lose Tarvarius Ward, who's an excellent corner, big money with 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: the Colts, Talanoufanga, who was an All Pro safety two 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: years ago. So he goes to the moroncos like Drake Greenlaw, 125 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: that Niners defense has not been the same last couple 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: of years without Drake Greenlaw just saying, and you know 127 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: they they lost other guys on that team. So we'll see, 128 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: we'll see. I mean, Brock Purdy has been at his 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: best when he's had all those weapons, and guess what 130 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: a lot of those guys have already hit the exit door. 131 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Deebo Samuel traded Brandon Ayuk. According to reports, they're 132 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: listening to offers, so it could be a much different 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers team for the Cardinals. 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: Maybe the biggest loss for the forty nine Ers was 135 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: assistant GM Adam Peters. We're tracking that, we're monitoring that. 136 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: How does GM John Lynch do minus Adam Peters because 137 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: the year plus into it not so good. Look what 138 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: Adam Peters is doing with Washington and look at where 139 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: the Niners have been trending. So I think that's worth monitoring. 140 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Also monitoring as we look at some of those free 141 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: agent deals that have been signed or agreed to terms 142 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: also from the league office, six different players signed or 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: agreed to on contracts of seventy five million or more. 144 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: That includes the Arizona Cardinals, and what Josh Wet. He 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: is one of those six players. Now, we hope to 146 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: hear from Josh Wett later this week. Right now, though, 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: as promised, how about we hear from Baron Browning. He 148 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: met the media on Wednesday, then sat down with the 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: two of us, Paul right here in studio. 150 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: So before we. 151 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Get into your return, let's flash back to when you 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: arrived mid season, having now a chance to kind of 153 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: look back first time in your career, moving teams, especially 154 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: mid season. How difficult was that in retrospect? Uh? 155 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was different, just because, like you said, it 156 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: was the middle of the season. You know, you're going 157 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: from one place that you familiar with, you know, you've 158 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: been there for four years, then going to a whole 159 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: new place, kind of like going to a new school, 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: tresh to a new school in the middle of the year. 161 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: You know, new friends you're trying to meet, you know, 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: you're just trying to fit in. So it was definitely 163 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: just an adjustment, you know. 164 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: And then it wasn't very long before you got into 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: a game. I'm always intrigued by that, like how much 166 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: did they put on your plate? And I mean, how 167 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: were you able to actually navigate? Because guys spend all 168 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: year learning to playbook and then you had like one week, right, 169 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: So what was that like when you actually had to 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: get into a game and you had such a little 171 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: knowledge of the actual playbook at the time. 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: You know, kind of when I got heard they just 173 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: you know, they gave me like a small portion of 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: what they wanted me to focus on. So then I 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: just you know, I studied that every day and leading 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: up to the game and before the game, and yeah. 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: How much help was Xavin Collins in that locker room. 178 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: I remember a conversation he had with us that he 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: used the terminology that you were familiar with in Denver Vance. 180 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Joseph was here in Arizona prior to the Broncos. 181 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: So help. 182 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: How did that help with the transition? 183 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: I think it helped a lot into you know, theay 184 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: you know, played in that system and then he's obviously 185 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: been playing in this current system, so he kind of 186 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: knew the terminology that I would be able to relate 187 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: to and kind of breaking down in Even then, like 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: after practice, we would spend time together walking through things 189 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: and him kind of playing to me, and even if 190 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: I had questions I would have, you know, I would 191 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: text some and he would, you know, send me pictures 192 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: of things. So it was a constant back and for 193 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: a dialogue we was having throughout the season. 194 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: How do you like your fit in this scheme? You know, 195 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: Nick Roless, Jonathan Gannon, how would you describe it, how 196 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: you fit into the scheme and maybe what it does 197 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: to elevate your game? 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like if I'm just speaking off last year. 199 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: It's kind of limited just because you know, I kind 200 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: of got her towards the end of the season, so 201 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: it's kind of a limited role. But like I said 202 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: in the previous interview, I'm not too sure how it 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: would expand this season, but I know it's multiple things 204 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 4: I can do, you know, far as being able to 205 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: play off the ball in on the ball. So I'm 206 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: not sure how they plan on utilizing me to the fullest, 207 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: but you know, whatever the team asked me to do, 208 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do to the best of my ability to 209 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: help my team win. 210 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: We know that they like guys who can not only rush, 211 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: but set the edge drop a little bit so you 212 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: don't have to come off the field. Even though they 213 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: like that rotation, you feel you're that three down linebacker. 214 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I feel like I've shown it in my film, 215 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: you know, from my rookiere playing inside linebacker, and you 216 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: know I could haven't running back and man coverage, so 217 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: I feel like there's nothing I can do. 218 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: You know, in weeks ten through eighteen, Next Gen Stats 219 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: put out some analytics that had you a top fifteen 220 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: edge guy in the NFL. The second half of last season, 221 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: right between Brian Burns and Miles Garrett. What sort of 222 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: upside do you think you still have left in your 223 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: NFL career? 224 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: I mean plenty. I mean this past season was only 225 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: my third year edge rushing. I didn't, you know, switch 226 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: full time until my second year in the league, So 227 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: I still been developing. I still been learning. I still 228 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: been teaching myself new things, and I'm excited, you know, 229 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: to be here with this staff and see how they 230 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: can help me elevate my game and with the dish 231 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: of Joshua, you know, and the other guys in the room. 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: You know, you had the foot injury early with Denver 233 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: beginning of the last season. At what point did you 234 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: finally feel like yourself last year? 235 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: I would say probably about around the second Seahawks game. 236 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, well the first Seahawks game was with Denver. 237 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: H No, I played two here, I played too, right, Yeah, 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: I played the Seahawks too many. 239 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: Times last year? Yeah, three total then because it was 240 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: weeks twelve and fourteen with a car Cardinals. Yeah. 241 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely say about that second Seahawks game when 242 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: we played them here and I was starting to feel 243 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: back like myself and kind of you know, getting a 244 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: rhythm and kind of get over the hump of that 245 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: foot injury. 246 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: That kind of makes sense because you look at the 247 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: snap counts and how they increase towards the latter part 248 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: of the season and playing better than fifty percent of 249 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the snaps. Not only your comfort level, but I think 250 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: the comfort level that the coaches had in you being 251 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: out there on the field. How did you feel your 252 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: role maybe expand from when you first got here to 253 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: how the season ended. 254 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think too, just you know, over each week, 255 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: you know, just them adding a little bit more on 256 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: my plate, getting a little more comfortable in the scheme, 257 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: you know, getting a little more practice trips each week. 258 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: You know, my comfort level kept growing in the system. 259 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: When the Cardinals signed Josh Sweat, what was your reaction? 260 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: You know, I was happy. I mean, you know, you 261 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: can never have enough edge guys, and I think you know, 262 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: the ego show that in the Super Bowl. You know, 263 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: they had a lot of edge guys they can rotate 264 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: and keep fresh. Soel you know, it just adds value 265 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: to our room. And you know it helps having a 266 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 4: lot of guys who can rest because everybody NERU can 267 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: just learn from so many different perspectives. 268 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: How much do you study other pass rushers in football? 269 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: Do you watch other guys and study their film? Yeah 270 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: a lot. 271 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: I mean shoot, last off season, I remember when I 272 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: was with Denver, I went back and watched all Varon 273 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: Russiers from twenty eleven to like twenty twenty two, and 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: I watched a lot of other guys, you know, top 275 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: guys like Miles Joshua Tamba. Yeah, I leave from the Chiefs. 276 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: I went back and watched a lot of guys. So 277 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: just anyway I can add value to myself and continue 278 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: to learn. 279 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Where do you see yourself right now? As far as 280 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: those past rush moves, do you have like a go 281 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: to or are you still kind of developing your own 282 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: moves based off what you see that has worked for 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: others and then maybe from what you has worked from yourself. 284 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: I think, you know what I worked for me. You know, 285 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: I definitely like using my spam move, but I want 286 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: to continue to build off things. You know, I don't 287 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: want to be a one trick pony. So and I 288 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: see what worked for guys, and then I try to 289 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: watch guys who are feeling to me in style. You know, 290 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: what can I take from that game because somebody might 291 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: be able to do something, but that might not fit 292 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 4: into you know, my stature, my game, and so you know, 293 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: it's just a constant, you know, tried things in practice 294 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: and see how it kind of correlates to the game. 295 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Baron Browning is our guest. I always liked to ask 296 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: edge rushers, Okay, who's on the most wanted list when 297 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: it comes to quarterbacks? Right A couple of years ago, 298 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: there was a rookie, my Jay Sanders. He immediately said, 299 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, I know against Aaron Rodgers last year, a 300 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: lot of guys just wanted you know, there you go, 301 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: four time MVP Hall of Famer. You got what Drake 302 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: May and Bryce Young last year. Is there anybody on 303 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: your most wanted list in terms of a quarterback? You 304 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: know that even in the next couple of years, you'd 305 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: love to get. 306 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: To shoot whatever quarterback ain mobile. The mobile must be 307 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: the hardest ones at tackle. So whichever, whoever, I just 308 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: want to stand there and don't move. How let your 309 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: boy speaking. 310 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Of mobile quarterbacks, I remember Kyler Murray when we asked 311 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: him about you, mentioned that he remembers watching you in 312 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: high school and how good you were in high school. 313 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: What kind of connection is there amongst the Texas guys 314 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: in that locker room. 315 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: I think it's a good connection. I mean I feel 316 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: like if you've come from Texas, you pretty much know. 317 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: If you don't know him personally, you just know of 318 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: who the top guys is coming out of Texas are. 319 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: So you know, I never knew Coyler personally, but I 320 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 4: already knew who he was just because I mean, you know, Allen, 321 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 4: there was a powerhouse in Texas and they went to 322 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: state every year and one I. 323 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: Mean, you were the for a defensive Player of the 324 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: Year in Texas, right, yeah, your senior year. But let's 325 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: flip the script. I mean, how well known was Kyler Murray. 326 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of guys come through here with 327 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: Texas high school backgrounds. They said Kyler was an absolute 328 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: rock star. Guys are always watching his highlights on YouTube. 329 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: Was there some of that for you? 330 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: I never watched his highlights, but like obviously seen highlights 331 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: of Allen winning on TV. You know they were in 332 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: sixth A classification. I was for it. So, like you said, 333 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: you know, the top guys in Texas already know, Like 334 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: I would quit like the fame Kyla had in Texas 335 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: High school to like, you know, Jonathan Gray. Everybody knew 336 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: who Jonathan Gray was coming out of Texas High school football. 337 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: So it's on that same level, I would say for Colin. 338 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: So then how does a Texas kid wind up at 339 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State? 340 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: Just for me, you know, out of the schools I 341 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: was considering, you know, I was I felt like Ohio 342 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: State kind of had the edge of everybody for what 343 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: they kind of did for their players after football. When 344 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: I kind of went to high State, coach me was 345 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: pretty big and having what we call real life Wednesday. 346 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: So we'd also have different CEOs come in, different you know, companies, 347 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: different speakers come in and just teach us about stuff 348 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: outside of football, you know, the proper way to dress, 349 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: you know, how to you know, present yourself on the 350 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: job interview. We would have like networking events and job fairs. 351 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: So so, okay, so you're the veteran in that locker room. 352 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Then amongst the Ohio State guys, is there some respects 353 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: and you make in Paris and Marvin doing some chores 354 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, do they respect the elder buck eye in 355 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: that room? 356 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: I think it's a mutual respect. Just so anybody who 357 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: came through a High State because it's a hard place. 358 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: So you know, when you see other High State guys 359 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: when the league, it's like you made it through. So 360 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: it's a salute for sure, But I don't believe in 361 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: all that haze and stuff. 362 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: Really, what was that like when you were a freshman 363 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: at Ohio State and all the talent. I mean, it's 364 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: such a factory, so many guys are going to be 365 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: highly drafted again this year. I got a measure coming 366 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: out of high school. You're the Texas for a State 367 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: Player of the Year. But that first full pad, full 368 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: contact practice at Ohio State must have been a little 369 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: bit different. Dare I say a little bit intimidating for 370 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: a young guy. 371 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, you know, you think you know 372 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: what working hard is until you go to a place 373 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: like a High State and then they just break you 374 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: all the way down. I remember my first week there. 375 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: High State was just coming off of getting blown out 376 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: by Clemson and a Fiesta bow thirty one to zero, 377 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: so that the winter workouts was super hard that year, 378 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: and I remember my first week just being like, man, 379 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, this was me. It was tough, for sure, 380 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: but you know, I made it through it, and I 381 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: came out on the other side much stronger as a 382 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: not only as a player, but most importantly as a person, 383 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: as a man. 384 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: We're speaking to you here on Wednesday, the official starts 385 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: of the new league year. 386 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: You agreed to. 387 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Terms on Sunday, prior to the start of free agency. 388 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Why not wait an extra day, a couple of days 389 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: to see what maybe the value was, or what other 390 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: teams valued across the league. 391 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: I just think, you know, having a communication with my 392 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: agent and have you know AZ traded for me. They 393 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: oanted me here, and like I said, you know, I 394 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: didn't feel like I have my best season last year, 395 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: just having more of one of my carillos dealing with injury. 396 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: So I think the fact that they, you know, believe 397 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: in what I can still do as a player in 398 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: my upside, you know, I think it was just only 399 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: right for me to stay here, and like I said, 400 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: I believe in my teammates and what we're building here. 401 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: You've played for some big names Urban Meyer. You cited 402 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: right Sean Payton, but you also talked about JG and 403 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: Nick Rowlss to the media. What is it about those 404 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: two guys that you found attractive and re signing with 405 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. 406 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 4: I think, more anything, just the energy, the way they 407 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: show up to work every day. You know, it makes 408 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: you as a player excited to be here and work 409 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: with them and continue to grow. So I've been in 410 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: places where you know you can't wait just to get 411 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: out of the building. So you know, that's that's a 412 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: difference making I think in building a winning coature. 413 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: What about that outside linebacker room now we mentioned Paul 414 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: mentioned Josh Swt added to that room. You've got Savin 415 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: in there, Bi, Joe Jilari coming off an injury, Xavior Thomas, 416 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: who the Cardinals I think are high on, even though 417 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: as a young player. But now having more guys in 418 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: that room to kind of disrupt offenses. 419 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: The more the better, right, So yeah, you can have 420 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 4: like I said, you can't have enough edge guys, you know, 421 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: and this league is becoming a league where you know, 422 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: you try to have as many as you can to 423 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: rotate and keep guys first. So and too, I think 424 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: it helps them scheming wise. You know, you can't just 425 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: scheme up one side. You know, you have to respect, 426 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: you know, whoever's on both sides. And I think it 427 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: allows to have more one opportunities. So that's that's what 428 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: really excites me. 429 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 3: Here's my question, okay, because I like to live vicariously 430 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: through the players in that locker room. Right, so boom, 431 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: you sign a deal, right, Okay? Do you treat yourself 432 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: to reward yourself? I know I'd go out and buy 433 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 3: some super sports car, That's what I do. I mean, 434 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: do you treat yourself a little bit when for an 435 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: occasion like this, I haven't. 436 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: Really did nothing, for real, I've just been chilling, just 437 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: living the same way. Anything that came to my mind 438 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: is just you know, paying off my parents' house and 439 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 4: I'm cool for real. 440 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: So that is that the plan? Or you have done that? 441 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm finna do here in the next 442 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: few days. 443 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that beats anything you've got playing there. 444 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: No, that's true. Maybe a little fishing. 445 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: Maybe a little fishing you got, Yeah, and that's that's 446 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: don't cost me no money at all. 447 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Really some good mental health right there. 448 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Baron, welcome back, appreciate the time here and look 449 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: forward to seeing what you can do on the field 450 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Thank you, So, Paul, we learned 451 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: something from Baron during that interview and a little bit 452 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: more after the microphones were turned off. But a big 453 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: fan of fishing and fly fishing, something that he picked 454 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: up in Colorado, not in Texas, as he told us, 455 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: because you can't really find any place to fish in 456 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. But it does in speaking with him, 457 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: this was spur Gang certainly my longest interaction with him 458 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: since he arrived, very casually in the locker room. But 459 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: fishing and just how soft spoken and chill he's the 460 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: vibe he sends out, I could certainly see him quite 461 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: enjoying a weekend of fishing. 462 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: We got to get him one of those bumper stickers 463 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: fish as right, always love that bumper sticker fish asy 464 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: because people don't think there's any fishing in Arizona. I mean, 465 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: you know it's not all Sonoran desert out there. Come 466 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: on now. So, yeah, he's a guy who really flips 467 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: the switch, who's a different guy on game day and 468 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: you know you heard him there talk about Yeah, it 469 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: took him a long time to feel like himself, to 470 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: be one hundred percent healthy, to really recover from that 471 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: foot injury he suffered in September in Denver and it 472 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: really wasn't until December January. Well guess what that correlated 473 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: with his production? That really correlated with him being a nuisance, 474 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: being a headache, And the analytics say as much he 475 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: was effective, he really puts some good film out there. 476 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's not totally unlike a mac Wilson senior 477 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: what he did his final year with New England. You know, 478 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: he puts some really good film out the last four 479 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: to six weeks of the season, not unlike what a 480 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: Keem Davis Gathier did for the Bengals, and the Cardinals 481 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: jumped on that. So if there's any opportunity to buy 482 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: low sell high in free agency, and it doesn't happen 483 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: very often, I think my osboard has done a good 484 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: job of identifying some of those outside linebackers, those edge guys, 485 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: some of those guys in the front seven who flashed 486 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: when finally given an opportunity and then you realize, okay, 487 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: you know what, that's who they really are, and then 488 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 3: how much upside is there? And you and you heard 489 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: Baron Browning just you know, just his reaction, the way 490 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: he nodded affirmatively, Oh yeah, there's stile lot upside in 491 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: my game. And you know, talking to some of the 492 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 3: coaches last year, Craig and he won't say this, but 493 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: you know, in Denver, I'm not sure it was the 494 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: greatest fit. The way they were using him. He wasn't 495 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: featured as prominently in the rotation. They rewarded a couple 496 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: of edge guys once he left, so he's considered expendable. 497 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: And you know, that scheme is different than what Jonathan 498 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: Gann and Nick Rolis are running. So I do think 499 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: it's a better fit. 500 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: And then you heard him mention that this is just 501 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: year three of him as an outside linebacker. Now he's 502 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: was drafted and played inside linebacker, making that move to outside, 503 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: and it does take a little while, especially playing a 504 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: new position. Heck, we saw it was Davion Collins moved 505 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: to the outside and now starting to really figure things out. 506 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: As far as within this defense, yeah, it's not just 507 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: go get the quarterback, it's can you can you stop 508 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: the run? Can you drop into coverage a little bit? 509 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Can you be that three down linebacker? To wear you 510 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: don't come off the football field, so you're not given 511 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: a tell to the defenses or to the offense. As 512 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: far as right, this is what we're doing based off 513 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: the personnel we're showing. 514 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: And how many times as Kyle Vannenbosch coached us up 515 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: and said, look, almost everybody in the NFL has that 516 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: initial move. You got to have the counter move. You 517 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: got to have the third move. And that does take time. 518 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: You know, when they study your film and they're able 519 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: to shut down your first move, your best move, you 520 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: better have something that you can go to or else 521 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna get stymied. And so that's been a process 522 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: for any pass rusher. I think Baron Browning showed some 523 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: of that and he said, you know what, he had 524 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: some more elements in his arsenal if you will. In 525 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: the second half of last season and down the stretch 526 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: in December and January, man he was getting to quarterback. 527 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: He was affecting quarterbacks. He was forcing guys to get 528 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 3: rid of the ball earlier than they wanted. And that's 529 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: exactly what Jonathan Gannon's looking for. 530 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Eighteen barons twenty one quarterback pressures with the Cardinals came 531 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: over his last five games. So again he became more comfortable, 532 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit healthier, and then on the field 533 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: doing a little bit more because the coaches trusted him 534 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: to be a part of that rotation. I think, again, 535 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: a full offseason with this coaching staff and now Josh 536 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Swett lined up on the other side, I think having 537 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: Sweat on the field is only going to uplift everyone 538 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: else as far as getting to that quarterback, because we 539 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: saw when Chandler Jones and Marcus Golden were bookends, how 540 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: much better Marcus's game increased because all of a sudden, hey, 541 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: we got to focus on fifty five on the other side, 542 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: and then Marcus Golden explodes with a double digit sax season. 543 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it on paper, right, Okay, on paper, 544 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: we're talking about you're going to have your top three 545 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 3: defensive lineman back who he didn't get a lot of 546 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: action out of and production out of a year ago, 547 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: and Justin Jones, Blall Nichols and Darius Robinson. Who might 548 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: you add in the draft. We'll see. Then you have 549 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: Josh Sweat, b Joe Jilari coming back. So now there's 550 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: Baron Browning. So once again it's the rising tide that 551 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: lifts all boats in the front seven and along that 552 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: that defensive line. And again for Baron Browning, I mean, 553 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: this was a highly sought after guy coming out of 554 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: Ohio State. He was a third round pick. He was 555 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: really productive for the Buckeyes, had a ton of talent 556 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: and not unlike Samon Collins. That's a good comp because 557 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: I think Manti ocibor, Jonathan Gannon and the new Cardinals 558 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: front office here, when they saw Zamon Collins coming out 559 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: of Tulsa, they had him identified as an outside edge guy. 560 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: Cardinals drafted him, put him inside. So it's interesting how 561 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: you know, it's all in the eye of the beholder. 562 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: Same thing with Baron Browning. They saw him and they said, 563 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: you know what, he might be better suited to the edge, 564 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: and if he is moved to the edge, and considering 565 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: how much money these guys now make, look at Miles 566 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: Garrett forty million a year, the best and the biz. 567 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: Once again, if you can buy low, sell high, and 568 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: you can get a guy with upside, and they do 569 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: believe Baron Browning has that potential. And to your point, 570 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: I mean, look just from the sideline last year as 571 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: many times the last four or five games at fifty 572 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: three was getting into the backfield. Just the eyeball test alone, 573 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: You're like, wow, okay, yes, the Cardinals have something in 574 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: Baron Browning a two year. 575 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: Deal with a reported fifteen million plus incentives. Again we 576 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: talk about sales in the National Football League. That might 577 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: have been one of those rare occurrences where the Cardinals 578 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: got something and maybe a little bit more bang for 579 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: their buck, if you will. 580 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: And what was his line to the media when they asked, well, 581 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: why did you sign before you know the market open? 582 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: Why didn't you a test free agency? And he said, well, 583 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, when you have a girlfriend who's a ten, 584 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: you know, why scout around? Why you know, boom, just 585 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: make the decision right there. What are you waiting for? 586 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: So that was his analogy. It was good conversation with 587 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Baron Browning. Also, again we hope to hear from Josh 588 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: what later this week. But some other guys one that 589 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: will be returning wide receiver j Jones. I think this 590 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: Paul was something that was expected, one of those twenty 591 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: unrestricted free agents that the Cardinals wanted to bring back. 592 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: Maybe not so much based off his production, but that 593 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: veteran presence in the locker room and what he meant 594 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: to those younger wide receivers. Now, does he want to 595 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: be more involved, Absolutely, But you noted that the final 596 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: two games with Jay Jones he had his best production 597 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: five catches over sixty five yards, So maybe there was 598 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: something later in the season that he wasn't showing earlier 599 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: in the season. He missed the first six games, unavailable 600 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: those first six games, and now all of a sudden 601 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 3: he's back with a second season within this offense. There's 602 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: no doubt. I think when you look back at last year, 603 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: there were two weapons on offense you didn't get a 604 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: lot of ROI out of, or at least you felt 605 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: like you could have received more return on investments Jay Jones. 606 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: Some of that was self inflicted obviously missing the first 607 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: six games, and then Greg Dorsch and both those guys 608 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: flashed in the last two games. So I'm wondering, Okay, 609 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: if you're the Cardinals' masterminds, you're running this offense, Drew 610 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: Patsen and company, You're like, well, you know, what what 611 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: can we do in twenty twenty five to get more 612 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 3: out of Zay Jones, Who's a big dude. He has 613 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: every bit of six to two. I mean, he's a 614 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: physical type. If you look back at his career, all 615 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: you have to do is search online. I mean, he's 616 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: had some huge games for the Raiders. For the Jaguars, 617 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: he was a high second round pick. He has this 618 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: skill set, he has the experience. You got to figure 619 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: out a way to make him more of a factor. 620 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: You know, in training camp before he had to sit 621 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: out those first six games. I remember in Indianapolis against 622 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: the Colts, in those red zone drills, here was a 623 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: problem for some of the Colts starting cornerbacks. He was 624 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: catching balls in them. So, all right, what can you do? 625 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 3: We know how the price tag for receivers has gone 626 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: through the roof. So you get him from one year 627 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: four million plus and you see what you have and 628 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: then you see if he can continue to get that 629 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: chemistry going with Kyler Murray, which you say on those 630 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: last two games, you know there were some key third 631 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: downs where he was the money guys. Those five catches, 632 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: I think three of them were key third and longs 633 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: where he got to the sticks. You know, how many 634 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: times do you see younger receivers right they make a 635 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: catch on third down a yard shy of the sticks. 636 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: That's not Jay Jones. He has that ability and the 637 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: wherewithal to be able to pick up the first down 638 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: and he has the size where he can break a tackle. 639 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: He can break an arm tackle and surge forward and 640 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: get an extra yard or two to move the sticks. 641 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: So I just think there's a lot of production that 642 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: can still be unlocked in Jay Jones. 643 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Eight seasons in the league. He knows what he needs 644 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: to do, he knows where he needs to be, and again, 645 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: getting that chemistry with Kyler Murray. Do think it was 646 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: there and then all of a sudden you're not there 647 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: for the first six games of the season, and the 648 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: team kind of moves on without you, and you try 649 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: to play catch up and it becomes very difficult because 650 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: at that point, you know, darn near half the season 651 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: is already behind you. So you get Zay Jones for 652 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: a full season as your third wide receiver or fourth, 653 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: depending on what happens. I know, Paul, you're you're kind 654 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: of angling for that speed guy maybe in the slot, 655 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: someone to kind of really expand that defense and make 656 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: things a little bit easier underneath for Trey McBride or 657 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: a Marvin Harrison junior. I have to wait and see 658 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: what happens there. You do have Xavier Weaver on the roster, 659 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: who we saw play briefly at the end of last season. 660 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: He's got that four three four four speed. Can he 661 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: catch the ball? I guess that would be the next 662 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: question because speed is great, but if you can't catch 663 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: the ball, then it does you no good. 664 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: Unless I missed it. Mkole Hardman is still out there. 665 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: You know, he's a burner. You know he could be 666 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: a guy, maybe a late signing and free agency for 667 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: the right price. Otherwise, I do think on the radar 668 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: day three of this draft, not a high draft pick, 669 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: but day three it's the sort of classic BA right, 670 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: if you can find a John Brown out there, some 671 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: guy runs around around a four to three and he 672 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: can be that dude to keep a defense honest and 673 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: run the scene and take the top off and just 674 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: run a bunch of go routes, bunch of nine routes. 675 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: I think there would be bene fit in adding that guy. 676 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: To me, he goes once again, when defenses had success 677 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: against the Cardinals offense, everybody now it was that shell coverage. 678 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: It was covered two and so if you can make 679 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: them get out of that too high safety, look, whether 680 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: it's by running the ball. You know, the pound game 681 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: with James Connor and Trey Benson or if you can 682 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: take the top off with a speed receiver or those 683 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: chunk throws downfield. And I thought Marvin Harrison Junior did 684 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: a better job of that in the last two or 685 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: three games. You know, they had some different routes out 686 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: up for Marvin Harrison Junior. And that's Marvin himself talking 687 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: to the media. Then okay, I think that is something 688 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: that can carry over into twenty twenty five. 689 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: So the Cardinals bring back some players, they also have 690 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to some players, and this is what 691 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: free agency is all about. So we want to give 692 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: our shout out to Kyrie's Tonga, Roy Lopez, a couple 693 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: of the two defensive linemen. Good guys in that locker room. 694 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: In the case of Roy, a hometown kid, able to 695 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: play for the hometown team and now moving on, according 696 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: to reports, to play with the Detroit Lions. Wish him 697 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: nothing but the best, because again, you need good guys 698 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: in that locker room, and both Kyriees and Roy, yes, 699 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: good guys, but also productive players on that defensive front. 700 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: You know, at first, when you see Roy Lopez going 701 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: to the Honolulu Blue You're like, okay, You're like all right, 702 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: So initial reactions Yeah, he's a Dan Campbell yep type 703 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: of guy. You can see. And then and then you 704 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: know what, that Cardinals defensive front was pretty stout, played 705 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: pretty pretty good against the Lions in Week three. You know, 706 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: they only put twenty points on that board. Cardinals lost 707 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: twenty to thirteen against the Lions in that game, and 708 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: that Lions offensive line, the best in the biz, did 709 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: not have their way in that game. And I'm guessing 710 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: that the Lions coaches made a mental note, Hey, that 711 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: Roy Lopez guy is going to be a free agent 712 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: at the end of this year, and if we can 713 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: make that happen, that'd be a nice addition there to 714 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: the center of the D line. So props to Roy 715 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: Lopez for drawing the attention of Brad Holmes, a GM 716 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: and the head coach Dan Campbell. And I can see 717 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: that as as a pretty good fit. And I know 718 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: a lot of fans are like, wait a minute, one 719 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: year four million plus to A Jones, why not one 720 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: year four million plus to Roy Lopez. Well, it's totally 721 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: different pay scales at those position groups. You have to 722 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: keep that in mind. So and with the Cardinals getting 723 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: Ball Nichols and Justin Jones, back and we'll see what else. 724 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: You know, they've they've been in the mix, at least 725 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: reportedly with some other interior defensive lineman. We'll see what 726 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: maniocap Fort has in mind. 727 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch from afar, Roy Lopez 728 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 1: and Kyrie's Tonga now with the New England Patriots. But 729 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: uh yeah, Roy Lopez next two and Aiden Hutchinson just 730 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: inside that left or right shoulder. I mean, that's that 731 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: could be fun for Detroit. 732 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that NFC North that sits his It suits his 733 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: style of ball, does it not? You know, I mean 734 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: getting down into all fours former heavyweight state champion wrestler. 735 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: You know, the few times that the Cardinals actually were 736 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: able to stymy the tush push, the key was Roy 737 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: Lopez because he's on the nose, yep, and he has 738 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: that ability, the innate ability to get lower than the 739 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: center and that's where it all starts or stops. And 740 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 3: Roy Lopez was really good at that, as good as 741 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: anybody in the business. 742 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Wish those two nothing but the best. Wish everyone here again, 743 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, and Paul again here we are in 744 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: the middle of March. Any New Year's resolutions that perhaps 745 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: you want to redo based off what you did January 746 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: one and fell off after like a week or two. 747 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: Something tells me you have a few in mind. You 748 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: have some some value added editions, some suggestions you're going 749 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 3: to make over to Calvic Consulting. Something tells me if 750 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: I don't have any, you will on my behalf. So 751 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: it's interesting. I kind of feel I kind of feel 752 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: a little flimflammed into this one here right off the top. 753 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting New Year's resolutions. So here's what I 754 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: wish for you. Transportation, I'll just leave it, yes, right, 755 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: that's right. Well, if not, I might have to carpool, 756 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: So go where you parked exactly, and I might need 757 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: a ride after we're all done here today. If you know, 758 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, save the environment, Craig carpool. 759 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this 760 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner 761 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 762 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: executive producer Joe Mama Hundre, our associate producer Cuddy Fincher 763 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: for Paul Calvic. I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to 764 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two can always 765 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: get worse.