WEBVTT - Cops Come Clean About Murdering Tyre Nichols (Part 1) 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.160 Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.400 welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.080 mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I'm your host, 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:09.840 ramses Ja. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.000 He is Ramsy's Jaw. I am q Ward. You are 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:14.480 tuned into Civic Cipher, Yes you. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.000 Are, and we have a what I believe to be 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.759 an educational show in store for you today. A lot 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.599 to talk about, the first of which is we're going 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.600 to spend the first part of the show discussing Tyree 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:33.239 Nichols once again, specifically the fact that the police have 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.440 come clean about the final moments of Tyree Nichols's life. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.320 For those who need a quick refresher, Tyry Nichols was 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.120 the young man who was you know, he was a skateboarder. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.519 He went back and forth from San Francisco or the 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:51.839 Bay Area to Memphis. He got pulled over for no 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.280 real reason that we now have confirmed from the officers, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:00.640 and he was beaten to death on video, maybe a 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.959 couple of blocks from his mom's house, you know, screaming 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.679 in terror or his life. And obviously he lost his 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.520 life at the hands of police. So we're going to 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.080 actually get into the story where the police finally have 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.560 come clean about why they pulled him over, what they 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.600 did to him, why they did it to him, et cetera, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:24.440 and give you a glimpse into policing as specifically policing 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.520 as an institution, not as a racialized necessarily institution, because 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.480 policing in and of itself it needs more than reform, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.119 because indeed, these officers that be Tyree Nichols to death 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.720 were black. And the second part of the show, we 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.280 are going to spend some time dissecting a video that 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:50.040 we came across online that has us re examining a 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.240 narrative that exists about whether or not black people were 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:59.080 kidnapped or sold into slavery. And the short answer is both. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.240 But I got to give you all that and so 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.760 much more. But before we get there, it's time for 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.920 some Ebony excellence. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.520 Shall we. I think you should take this one. You'd 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.760 like it, Okay. This week's Ebony Excellence sponsored by Actively Black. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:18.280 There is greatness in our DNA. Visit actively black dot com. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.480 This is from the Sacramento Observer. Ardrica Appleweight was selected 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.799 to serve as the new Director of Black Media at 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.519 the White House she's committed to ensuring equality for black journalist. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.440 Although she's only been in the position for about three months, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.359 the young director has championed inclusive efforts, creating new ways 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.960 for black press to connect with the White House. Quote. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.000 I think the future of black press is a self 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.120 fulfilling prophecy between the things that we're doing and the 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.320 policy things that are happening here. And then you bring 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.760 in press that is specifically talking to an audience that 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.840 are looking for that information and quote Appleweight explained as 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.560 audience continued to consume that it allows me to go 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.840 back and say I need more time with X, X 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.200 and X, because look at the interests were getting. Appleweight 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.920 as a native of Carrollton, Georgia, and a graduate of 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.840 George Washington University, where she majored in political science. Noting 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.280 that she was always interested in politics, the young scholar 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.160 grew up participating in debate teams and with dreams of 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.960 attending law school. It wasn't until she arrived in the 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.360 nation's capital that she realized there were so many career 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.919 choices she could pursue with the political science degree. After 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.480 working with Pete Budhachic, she served as senior communications as 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.840 adviser for the Michigan Democratic Party and joined the campaign 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.720 team that supported the twenty twenty two reelection of Governor 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.280 Gretchen Whitmer. The season communication expert returned to d C 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.480 following the successful campaign in Michigan, and she was working 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.440 with communications firms until the White House called, offering her 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.040 the opportunity of a lifetime and we had the opportunity 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.160 to meet this champion for all of us. And to 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.200 say she was impressive in that we were blown away, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.960 I'd say is an understatement. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.720 Absolutely, And that's why I thought you'd get a kick 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.640 out of absolutely. I know you didn't know that she 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:05.320 was going to be bless all right, So the cops 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:13.840 come clean about murdering Tyree Nichols. Okay, So I'm going 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.400 to share a little bit from NBC News because there's 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.159 a lot here, and I employ you to take a 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.440 look at this. But what you're going to see is, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.960 you know, there's a popular narrative and I believe that 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.640 there is a lot of truth to it. You know, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:33.080 white cops policing in black communities, you know, the racial 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.200 component there, the lack of cultural awareness and cultural empathy 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:45.240 and cultural understanding can lead to outcomes that are that 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.320 disproportionately negatively affect black people. You give white officers the 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.520 power and they don't understand. They're not culturally competent when 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.960 it comes to black people. They're afraid quote unquote. You know, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:02.760 we discuss how black skin is viewed as criminal often 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.840 enough to non black white people, officers will just speak plainly. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.479 But you know, in this instance, we're dealing with black officers. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.559 So what we do is we get to remove race 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.640 as a factor and we get to just look at 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:24.200 police policing and we're able to see some of what 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.080 happens behind the scenes with just police policing because race, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.200 again is not necessarily a factor here. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.039 Well, I don't know that race isn't a fact. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.239 Tyree Nichols is still black, yes, oh yeah, that part. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:41.080 And disproportionately, the victims of police violence there this level, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:47.360 to this extreme, to a fatal extreme, are often black, poor, Hispanic, 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.160 black and brown people more specific. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:51.160 That's a better way to say it. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:56.159 Race absolutely plays a part. It just shows that once 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.839 you are indoctrinated with what it means to be a 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.760 police officer in this country, your race doesn't matter as much. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.400 As that system that you've become a part. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.320 There you go. That's what I was trying to say. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.480 Good jobs. That's perfect, okay, So let me read a 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.360 little bit just to bring you up to speed. It's 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.840 from NBC News. A former police officer testified Tuesday that 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.479 he removed his body camera after he punched Tyree Nichols 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.760 at least five times and kicked him four times. Quote. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.920 I didn't want it to show what we were doing. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.640 Quote Emmitt Martin, I told a federal jewelry in the 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.200 trial of the of three former officers charged in the 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.560 beating of Nichols, who died three days later. Martin, who 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.560 initiated the traffic stop against Nichols, said in federal court 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.479 Monday that Nichols never posed a threat and that officers 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.839 downplayed their own actions during the encounter on January seventh, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.720 twenty twenty three, which led to Nichols's brutal beating. Martin, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.080 who has already pleaded guilty, said that Nichols ran away 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.560 shortly after he was pepper sprayed, but that he caught 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.120 up with him. Several officers were all right there. Quote 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.360 I ran in and assisted, and I kicked him. Martin 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.279 told the court, adding that his actions were deliberate and 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:13.240 inconsistent with Memphis police policy. Quote. I was angry. I 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.559 was already angry that he ran from the first stop, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.000 Martin said, referring to the traffic stop that set off 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.280 the encounter. Martin said he punched Nichols at least five 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.320 times and kicked him four times, and then stood by 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:30.240 and watched former officers Justin Smith and Tadarius Bean beat Nichols. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.840 Martin said he lied to a supervisor that Nichols was 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.600 high and threw a punch at him. Martin said in 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.040 court that his punches were deliberate and inconsistent with Memphis 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.480 police policy, and that they did not serve a legal purpose. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.880 He added that Nichols was helpless. All right. Now, Again, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.040 as I mentioned, this is a much longer article than that, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.320 but there are some key things to jump out, and 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:01.920 I want to get your thoughts, your acubes. So first off, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.120 he disconnected his body cam. Does that sound like a 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.000 story that you've covered on this show before? 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:08.280 Sadly yes? 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.360 Okay, So another question, why do you suspect a police 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.880 officer would intentionally hide, obscure, disconnect, turn off their body 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:16.800 their body Cam. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.480 Well, typically we have to figure that out ourselves. In 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.600 this case, the officer says it in the story, I 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.400 didn't want people to see what we were doing. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:24.840 Very good. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.680 He knew that it was not only cruel but illegal 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.959 and did not want to be held accountable, which tends 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.120 to be the case not just for specific officers, but 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.960 for the unions that represent them as well. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.079 Excellent, Now I want to go on. Now, this officer, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.760 Emmitt Martini, said that Nichols never posed a threat and 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.080 that officers downplayed their own actions during the encounter. Have 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.360 we covered stories have you encountered stories on this show 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.960 or really anywhere where an officer downplayed their actions in 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.840 a police brutality type of situation. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.440 The sad thing is that, of course, and this story, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.200 we could just see switch out the names and just 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:14.240 copy and paste this story every show, Yeah, every single one. Yeah. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:20.199 Okay. So one of the things that I didn't get 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.480 to in the article, and I just remember reading it there, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:28.560 is that this officer, Emmett Martin, the IID what he 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:37.960 did was he he was upset, angry because he hadn't 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:43.200 made any arrests that night. Okay, he saw Tyree Nichols 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.360 driving a little fast. I think that's exactly what his 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.280 words were. He was driving a little fast and he 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.120 didn't signal a laye change or something like that, and 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.920 then decided to pull him over and then call for backup, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.560 escalating it to a felony stop. He already said he 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.280 was angry and he wanted to find somebody to take 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.800 out his frustration on. He was looking for somebody to arrest, right, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.840 And so this was in the article. Again, you're welcome 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.000 to read it NBC News. Just you know, search Tyree 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.000 Nichols and perhaps the most recent article will come up 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.480 and you'll be able to see everything that we're discussing here. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.560 So what that to me says is that, you know, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.600 we always talk about bullies, and you know, bullies are 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.439 the sort of people that find people who they can 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:40.280 pick on, people that they have they can exact some control. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.199 Over people they perceive to be weaker, smaller, powerless. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.120 Okay, And when you're a police officer, that's everybody, that's 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:57.840 everybody exactly, but you are further divorced from potential consequences 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.560 if indeed the everybody that that you choose to bully 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:09.360 is from a marginalized community specifically black man, because police 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.680 tend to as as you put maybe it was last 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:17.840 episode or the episode before, they can connect black skin 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.000 with criminality very easily. Indeed, and not just the police, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.280 this is the this is them. They'll sell that narrative 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:24.800 to the public. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.400 The public will accept that narrative, and that's the that's 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.760 the part that's most important. There are segments of our 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.800 population that also see it that way, including other black people. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:45.840 So watch this. This man admits that Tyrie Nichols was 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.240 not high, and that Tyrie Nichols did not throw a punch. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.520 And that essentially he was never a threat. I think 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.680 literally never a threat. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.839 Now, let me ask another question. When we dissect these 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.120 types of stories on our show, do you feel that 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:08.240 it's possible for some officers to get off some of 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:13.720 their lies in defense of themselves because they feel that 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.480 there's a chance that they can ultimately be exonerated, and therefore, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.000 because it came from an officer, the public just accepts it. Well, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.920 he's through the first punch, or they didn't stop, they 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.480 didn't obey a legal command, or they were acting erratic, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.720 or you know, I feared for my own safety. Is 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.520 it possible? Is it conceivable that some of these officers 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.880 are outright lying. Indeed, like this officer is doing right here. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.280 Well, it's right here, he's telling the truth. Well yeah, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.640 But initially they lie, and it's not just conceivable, it's 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.320 often the case, especially when the things that they lie 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.040 about don't even have to justify the end or the outcome. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.440 He didn't pull over when we first let him up, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:04.040 He swerved a little bit. He had a gun. Even 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.840 it's not illegal to have a gun. Yeah, right, this 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.400 is the Second Amendment for people, right, So the possession 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:15.400 of the firearm also shouldn't render a person deceased at 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.880 the end of their interaction with you. So not only 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.000 do they often lie, not only is it conceivable and 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:24.440 likely happens far more than is reported, because when the 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.240 other person in the story is no longer with us, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.440 they can't give you their side of the story. Sure, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.600 the officer's account of what happened is not just readily accepted, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.920 it is the only piece of information that we have. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.839 But the interesting thing is even in those lies, like 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.600 I said, he threw a punch at me, that still 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.360 doesn't justify that person no longer being with us. So 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:52.400 it's they've The society that accepts these narratives are also 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.400 the reason that that sense of quote unquote fear. And 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.760 you know, I don't like using that word because I 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.800 think it's just an excuse for hate. The same society 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:06.120 that's saying we shouldn't have bump stocks banned, you shouldn't 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.520 have to go through a background check to get a gun, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.680 everyone should have a gun, are the same people that 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.720 are saying the police are justified in killing people because 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.600 their job is hard and they were afraid. Well, which 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.000 is it. Should we make their job less hard and 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.000 more safe so that they shouldn't have to be afraid 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.520 that every person they pull over might have a weapon 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.960 and might not be right mentally and might shoot them 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.480 because everybody can get a gun, any kind of gun, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.080 whenever they want, Like, it's hard to ask for both 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.200 things to be true when we as a society are 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:47.160 the ones perpetuating the circumstances, the scary circumstances that we're 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.520 putting these trained officers in. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.040 Me. I want to back up a little bit because 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:59.080 you said some really important stuff. I just want to 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.920 emphasize a point that you made for the benefit of 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.400 our listeners. When you were talking about the officer lying 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.640 in the initial report, saying that Tyree Nichols threw a 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.640 punch right, And of course the question was is it 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.040 conceivable that an officer would lie. There's so many people 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.040 that look at stories like this and they say, well, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.240 that's just a handful of officers. So that's just in Memphis. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.200 That's not all of the no q Ward and Ramsey's 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.080 Jah covered these stories across the country every single week. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.240 We've been doing the show for four years, every week, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.120 and we got them from Mississippi to California, to New York, 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:42.160 to Florida to where's this place? Memphis, South Dakota. I 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:43.440 remember that story. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.760 And the narrative that we're left with, and this is 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.800 Ramsy's favorite narrative. It's just a few bad apples, man, listen. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.000 And the really interesting thing about that is that there 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.240 is no system in place for those few good apples. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.640 Who come try to actually bring about. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.360 Help in any way to keep the bad ones in line. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.400 You're not just made out to be a pariah, but 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.480 you put yourself in actual danger. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.000 Let me let me add something right here. When people 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.840 say a few bad apples, what they're what they're saying 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.880 to me is that they are only aware of a 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.480 few bad stories. But you and I deal in data, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.960 and so we can see the data, and the data 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.600 says that it's not a few bad apples. It's a 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.000 corrupt white supremacist system, even with black people at the 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.760 forefront of it, like these officers that beat Tyree Nichols 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.520 to death. Now back to my point, them lying about 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.520 saying that he threw a punch at them so that 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.360 they could justify their subsequent actions beating him to death 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.240 is bogus. But it reminds me of the many videos 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.680 that you and I watch on this show where a 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.720 person is clearly not resisting and there's four or six 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:03.600 officers taking one human being down, yelling stop resisting as 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.200 they punch him and drag him and man handle him 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.800 and whatever. Stop it. He clearly cannot resist or otherwise 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.600 clearly is not resisting. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.640 Or cannot stop resisting. If by resisting they mean trying 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.480 to learn to not be unlive. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.159 Yeah, like you know, it's it's the wildest thing, but 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.800 you know, the stop resisting thing is another the other 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.480 side of that coin. Oh, he threw a punch. Okay, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.520 So first off, that's a lie, just like the stop 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.600 resisting thing is a lie. It's just something that they 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.920 say for the benefit of the videos. And then they 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.000 go back and they get their lawyers to look at 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.080 it and they find an angle that NOBE can see 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.000 and say, oh, he had his his hand that was 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.480 tucked behind him. He actually used that and pinched my 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.320 belly button and I didn't know what it was, so 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:47.240 I had to punch him. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.440 Yeah, there should be a more severe consequence for lack 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:57.280 of bodycam footage. Oh yeah, and this is what There 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.240 was an auto minimum punishment for not having the body 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.440 cam on and make it severe like ten years. Yeah, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.200 they would all have it on whatever disconnect their body. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.320 Can there would be less instance. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.719 And if they did, oh that's your bad, sir. Someone 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.720 there should have had bodycam on, right, And instances where 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.760 there's more than one officer and there's no body cam 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.760 footage minimum charge. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.600 Yeah. Remember the Tyree Nickels stuff we saw from street 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:28.040 camera footage. So all these officers were doing the same thing. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.680 And this is what I mean. Systems, A few bad apples, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.560 come on, all right, let me give you a summary 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.520 of everything else. Okay, So I read a lot of 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.520 messed up things about the police, okay, and again to 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.840 know that this was a black officer shows that it's 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.200 a police issue with black and brown bodies, not a 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:49.520 white people's issue with black and brown bodies. Only this officer, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.960 Emmitt Martin I, admitted to taking his body cam off, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.119 admitted to kicking and punching Tyree Nickels several times, and 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.000 the kicks and punches did not serve for legal purpose. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.159 Sorry about that. He admitted Tyree Nichols posed no threat 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.159 and that he only ran because he had been pepper sprayed. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.720 He admitted that Tyree Nichols was helpless, as the officer, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.280 saying this after he pleaded guilty, came clean about it all. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.120 This is rare that we get the chance to say, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.360 I told you so. I've been telling you the whole time, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.280 been telling you for years. CU's been telling you for years. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.560 The officer admitted there were no warrants. He admitted that 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.600 he downplayed the officer's actions and that he lied about 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.719 Nichols being high and attempting to throw a punch at 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.040 the officers. He said it was standard for members of 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.480 the Memphis Police Department Anti violence team to keep quiet 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.159 about using force. This is all a matter of public record, now, okay. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.080 The officer said he was angry because he hadn't made 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.159 an arrest yet. He noticed Nichols driving a little fast 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.399 as a traffic light was turning red and saw him 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.760 changing lanes without signaling and radioed other officers to make 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.199 it a felony stop. This officer also had a history 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.159 of violence, which we talked about last week with the 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.320 football player to help help me with his name, Tyreek Hill, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.199 Tyreek Hill. With officers having a history of violence that 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.919 are never held accountable, so did this officer. Emmitt Martin 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.120 the third. His history of a violence included once emptying 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.639 a full can of pepper spray on a suspect. I 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.680 want to say that again. Suspect innocent until proven guilty, right, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.399 That's what the criminal justice says, you know, is the 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:24.199 case in this country. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.960 But in this case, he's already saying the kid didn't 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.280 do anything. There was no warrant, there, he was no threat. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.359 He didn't like so even using the term suspect in 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.199 this case, they weren't investigating something that happened that they 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:40.520 weren't present for. This officer initiated the stop phoned in 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:45.119 other officers and intentionally instigated the situation to end up 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:46.160 in this young man's death. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.880 Now, this guy's nickname, you know, back to his history 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.199 was full Can. They called this officer Emmitt Martin the 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.800 third Full Can because his history included him once emptying 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:05.320 a full can of pepper spray on a suspect. It 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.399 just blows my mind. And again, if this was an 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:09.560 isolated incident, or this was something that we talked about 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.440 a little bit here and there, you know, over the 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.359 amount of years that we've discussed issues like this, you 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.840 have to be honest with yourself that this is indeed 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:22.320 a systemic issue. This isn't isolated incidents. He says that 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.720 we protect each other. He says that this is standard 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.520 protocol for us to keep quiet about using force. And 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.359 you can read this article. You don't even have to 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.120 read the article. It's this is what he said in court. 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.119 It's public record. It's not just you don't need a 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.080 journalistic source. You can go right to the source, right. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.679 And the crazy thing about it is that the police 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.920 will always find an excuse to your earlier point. Q. 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.639 Once upon a time, I might have shared this on 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.320 this show before, but Once upon a time, I got 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.880 pulled over by the police on a freeway okay, And 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:53.639 I had a choice to pull over where it was 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.080 safe or where it was unsafe and safe was a 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.399 little further along. And because I chose I wasn't speeding, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.080 I wasn't a scared, but I chose to pull over 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.080 where it was be safer for me and the officers 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.639 just was a little further up the road, about a 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.199 quarter mile okay. The officers had to ride behind me 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.680 with the lights on. They started beeping the horn, shouting 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.480 whatever on the freeway driving low speed man. They pulled 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.760 me out of that car, They handcuffed me, they called 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.959 extra officers, all this sort of stuff. They searched the car, 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:19.920 they searched me. I told him I had never done 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.080 a drug, drank alcohol, nothing in my life. Never. They're like, yeah, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.760 that's exactly what a meth head would say. WHOA Okay, 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.320 well you know what I'm saying. And they were escalating this. 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.560 Fortunately because I'm on the radio, they could one of 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.320 the guys heard my name and he knew who I 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.400 was and googled it, and it's like, okay, you guys, 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.040 we got to back off. And then they treated me differently, 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:39.840 but had I not been on a radio, that could 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:43.480 have ended up any number of ways because of that 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.439 bully mentality and then figuring out a way to escalate 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.880 a situation based off of nothing. I told them, that's 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.840 why it's safer here for you and me, And unfortunately 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.160 Tyree Nichols will never have that opportunity because he will 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.800 never speak again because now he's buried in the ground. 0:22:58.880 --> 0:22:59.679 So that's that.