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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February twenty sixth.

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Speaker 2: This is jack Bars Happy Out.

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Speaker 3: And now fresh from the combine, you know, like combining

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Speaker 3: a nice bourbon with a lovely cigar.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps J. P.

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Speaker 4: Chackridge surest me all too well.

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Speaker 5: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour and we are back again.

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Speaker 2: It is Combine week. We are here in Jacksonville. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to that coming up. Busy show. Mark Lamping had

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Speaker 2: some updates this week. Jaguars president on the construction for

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Speaker 2: the Stadium of the Future and the two London game

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Speaker 2: announcement this year in twenty twenty six. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: all that coming up. A Combine review sort of. Some

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Speaker 2: of the Jaguars front office executives were there, others were not.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into some reasons why we're gonna keep it

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Speaker 2: real and do that tonight. We're keeping it real a

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Speaker 2: little bit later.

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Speaker 4: And AFC South check in the first of three straight weeks.

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Speaker 2: We'll visit with an opposing announcer this week, the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer. We'll get into their needs this offseason. I

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Speaker 2: caught it with him on Radio Row in Indianapolis this

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Speaker 2: week as well. We're on ten Tenexlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars

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Speaker 2: YouTube JP, Shadwick with you, and at long last, Jeff

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Speaker 2: Loghman returns to the mill of Electric Center in the

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Speaker 2: Hyundai Studios.

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Speaker 5: It's been way too long, Logs, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good and your beard has gotten like thick

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Speaker 4: and bushy. Yeah since the last time I seen you.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of digging it. Well, one of these days

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Speaker 4: when I grow up and be like you, Logs. It

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Speaker 4: looks like and some of the old wrestling fans Tony

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Speaker 4: Kahn would know this. Jim Hacksall Dougan beer going on

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Speaker 4: right now, even two by four, the American flag, the

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Speaker 4: whole thing, that's right. Yeah, that would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we've got a lot to get to

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Speaker 2: here on a weird week, I mean usually, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get to this and keeping it real, the Jaguars presence

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Speaker 2: or lack thereof, of the NFL scouting combine this week

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Speaker 2: has kind of made some headlines.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to some reasons.

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Speaker 2: Why are why and you should not be concerned.

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Speaker 4: Or you could say was not in the headlines because

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Speaker 4: they're not there or that or that was some of

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Speaker 4: the headlines that they weren't there too, erect Well, we'll

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Speaker 4: get to that and see if it's a big deal. Also,

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Speaker 4: we've got to hear from Mark Lamping, Jaguars president. He

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Speaker 4: spoke earlier this week with the media yesterday about some

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Speaker 4: of the updates.

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Speaker 2: But let's get us some football, and some reports today

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Speaker 2: are around the Jaguars, including out of Pittsburgh today. Andrew

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Speaker 2: Philipponi of ninety three seven The Fan in Pittsburgh reported

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Speaker 2: today tweeted today that the Steelers have been in talks

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Speaker 2: with the Jaguars about wide receiver Brian Thomas Junior, and

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Speaker 2: that the two teams discussed a deal with the deadline

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Speaker 2: last year. Of course it did not go through. Here

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Speaker 2: we go, it's that time of year. Free agency starts

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Speaker 2: Mart's eleventh, the new league year. I mean, the Titans

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Speaker 2: made a trade today, Tovandre sweats gone. You're gonna start

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Speaker 2: hearing these kind of things ramp up the next two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tovandr set went to the Jets, right, that's right, yea, yeah, yeah. Look,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things that can fly

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Speaker 4: around this time of year, you know, because there's not

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Speaker 4: a whole lot going on, But then there is a

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Speaker 4: would I be surprised if there was a conversation about

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Speaker 4: gonna call me up and I'm James Gladstone, okay, and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: you think. I'm like, Well, look, everybody's got a price tag.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's very few in the NFL that don't

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Speaker 4: have a price tag. You got to be willing to

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Speaker 4: was unexpected, you know. So is it likely that this happened?

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Speaker 4: I don't know who knows, but if it did happen,

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Speaker 4: it would not surprise me one bit.

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Speaker 5: And let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers when it comes to receivers

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Speaker 2: last year they had some issues too, right, They had

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Speaker 5: And what the Steelers are doing this The.

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Speaker 4: Only thing that I think is a little it makes

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Speaker 4: me a little bit skeptical on this is that. Look,

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Speaker 4: have to pay Brian Thomas Junior. The price tag may

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Speaker 4: be big when it comes to draft picks, but when

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Speaker 4: you don't know what your quarterback situation is going to be,

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Speaker 4: I mean, are you willing to sacrifice a lot of

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Speaker 4: don't know who's going to be. That's why kind of

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Speaker 4: I think that again, I'm skeptical.

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Speaker 5: A lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: New head coach of course in Pittsburgh this year, and

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Speaker 2: we'll see if the old man Rogers.

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Speaker 5: Comes back or not.

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Speaker 4: Well, and you know, and maybe they've got a wink

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Speaker 4: that they know he's coming back, but he wants all

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Speaker 4: the publicity about maybe is he going to come.

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Speaker 5: Back Darkness Retreat and figure it out a couple.

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Speaker 4: Of that stuff, you know, so that he can get

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but the Darkness Retreat sounds pretty relaxing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows. I mean, there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 5: True, We'll see, we will see. We do know that

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars do not have a first round draft.

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Speaker 4: Pick, Yeah, which kind of makes the draft, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say uninteresting because with James Gladstone, I mean.

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Speaker 2: You never know, and you know what was something like this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get a first round

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe you back in somehow or future considerations.

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Speaker 4: But what I like is that, to me, the meat

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Speaker 4: I mean, sexy is day one, and obviously that's the

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Speaker 4: But how many picks do the Jaguars have on Day

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Speaker 4: two and three thirteen? I mean, holy cow, that's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a lot. And there's been drafts in

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Speaker 4: the past where I have been utterly glued to the

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Speaker 4: draft ticker, tracker, whatever you want to call it, and

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Speaker 4: my interest level wanes. But when you have a general

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Speaker 4: he's even going to find talent in round seven, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to be watching that draft ticker tracker, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to call it again on day two like crazy,

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Speaker 4: in Day three like crazy, because I want to see

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Speaker 4: how he's going to improve this football team, because I

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Speaker 4: have full confidence.

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Speaker 5: That he will.

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Speaker 4: That's different than in year's past. JP. You think, so oh,

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Speaker 4: totally different, totally different. I truly believe that. And not

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Speaker 4: only did he do a really good job in the

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Speaker 4: later rounds and look, in a lot of cases, the

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Speaker 4: to see a lot of that this year as they've

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Speaker 4: become healthy. But the undrafted players are also pretty dog

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Speaker 4: one good by James Gladstone and his crew. So I'm

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Speaker 5: I said thirteen ten picks.

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Speaker 4: Ten.

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Speaker 2: They traded away a couple for Jacoby, remember that, which

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Speaker 2: was totally worth it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they traded a couple for Greg Newsom too. That

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that did not work out yet.

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Speaker 5: Well not yet yet. Free agent coming up he.

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Speaker 4: Is and if he comes back and then all of

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Speaker 4: know what, you know, it did work out, but as

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Speaker 4: of but the one part of it that did work

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Speaker 4: out is the commitment to the contract.

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Speaker 4: So, and a lot of people don't look at this. Okay,

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Speaker 4: when you trade Tyson Campbell for Greg Newsom, how much

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Speaker 4: salary did you push away from your salary cap to

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns? Because when Greg Newsom comes in, there's

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Speaker 4: no future responsibility to your cap. Right, So, in a

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Speaker 4: lot of ways, I feel like that that trade was

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Speaker 4: no matter what.

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Speaker 5: Happens financially correct.

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Speaker 2: We're on tens and Exlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, it

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Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour. I got your thoughts on some

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Speaker 2: of these pending free agents and the two we haven't

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Speaker 4: Better the show with you last week? Kai Stevens nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she was great. She's our highest rated show to time.

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Speaker 4: That surprised me because I wasn't hear in Kay's huge.

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Speaker 4: She's a ratings huge, ratings driver time. She does a

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Speaker 4: great job. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But now we're back and you know what free agencies

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Speaker 2: in two weeks and the two biggest names, the two

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Speaker 2: names that most people are concerned about, let's say Devin Lloyd, linebacker,

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Speaker 4: I think I think they're gonna they're both gonna get

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Speaker 4: still continue to have conversations with the player throughout the process,

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Speaker 4: you know. And look, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 4: to lose Travis etn Oh my gosh, what a year

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Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd had. We don't want to lose him, you know,

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Speaker 4: And a lot of people think that if you don't

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Speaker 4: sign a player prior to free agency starting. Then that

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Speaker 4: means you don't have an in in that player. That's

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Speaker 4: not true. Okay, A lot of times it's best to

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Speaker 4: get to the market to see where the value is

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Speaker 4: and still to continue to have conversations along the way,

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Speaker 4: because if you have somebody that is what's the right

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Speaker 4: way to say this. If you have a general manager

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Speaker 4: it doesn't get into I can't believe you didn't offer

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Speaker 4: me at all before free agency began. That's disrespectful, right,

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Speaker 4: And I think that the Jaguars brass has a great

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Speaker 4: here's a big contract.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that things could still work. Are

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Speaker 2: We got to hear from Mark Lamping, Jaguars president, spoke

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Speaker 4: That's right, We've got Shall I share my combine story?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, we'll be back in just a few moments

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Speaker 2: for the thrilling conclusion of that. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with

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Speaker 2: Jeff Logman. We're at the Hundai Studios test driving Hundai

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Speaker 2: today only at your local Hyundaid dealer ten ten Xlamjaguars

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Speaker 2: Keeping it real about the Jaguars leadership not attending the combine.

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Speaker 5: We'll see if it's a big deal or not.

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Speaker 2: Jaguar President Mark Lamping visited with the media yesterday, had

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Speaker 2: with the future. From the Jags president, we.

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Speaker 1: Always said that, you know, if the end result was

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Speaker 1: you know, we call these community construction metrics. We're running

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Speaker 5: Smart Lamping, Jaguars President, more for him coming up.

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Speaker 2: The seating capacity next season will be forty two thousand

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Speaker 2: And Lamping said it again yesterday that the original plan

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Speaker 1: We were scheduled to play an additional game in twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: We work with the league. The league has agreed to

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Speaker 1: So that's happening for sure, So we think. You know,

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Speaker 1: We think that makes sense for all involved.

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Speaker 2: Spark Lamping Jaguars president. So yes, the Jaguars will play

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Speaker 5: Back to back weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is this is good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So those are the updates. He also did mention

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're in the mixing.

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Speaker 4: But it's just not feasible. Yeah, it would have been

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine the tailgating in the infield?

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Speaker 4: That would be come on, crazy cool? You think you

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Speaker 2: That seems safe for everybody involved. It really does. Hey,

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Speaker 2: let's come back in a moment. We got to keep

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Speaker 2: it real. We've been pushing it off too long. We've

439
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Speaker 2: been faked this whole time. We're gonna keep it real now.

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Speaker 2: Logs about the Jaguars leadership not attending the comb.

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Speaker 4: But you attended the combay I went, I mean wow,

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Speaker 4: I went, So leave me out of.

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Speaker 5: And forty other Jaguar employees.

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Speaker 4: Did you well, I'm where your logo to peril?

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Speaker 2: Did the shirt I'd left this morning? I'm wearing the

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Speaker 2: same shirt I wore this morning.

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Speaker 4: You just got that.

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Speaker 5: I literally got back. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Literally did you hold press conferences?

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Speaker 5: And everything? Over there? Did I hold press conferences? They

451
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Speaker 5: did not have me.

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Speaker 4: You hit radio row.

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Speaker 5: I walked around radio.

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Speaker 2: Back in a moment, keeping it real, and we'll hear

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Speaker 2: from Mark vandermir, voice of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: Coming up, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hondai Studios, ten

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Speaker 2: to Xtlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Loggaman.

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Speaker 2: Glad you're along with us on this Thursday afternoon. We're

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Speaker 2: here at four o'clock on Thursdays each and every week

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Speaker 2: in the off season.

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Speaker 4: It is time now logs for something we don't.

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Speaker 2: Do normally on Thursdays. We do it on Mondays every

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Speaker 2: week during the season. Okay, we keep it real, presented

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Speaker 2: by nobody.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've been kind of keeping it real on this

467
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Speaker 4: show for years.

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Speaker 2: That's what you think, that's what I know. We're about

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Speaker 2: to find out how really you get what you got?

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Speaker 2: And it's about the Jaguars Big Three. Liam Cohen, James Gladstone,

471
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Speaker 2: Tony Boselli did not attend the NFL Scouting Combine this year,

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Speaker 2: taking a page from the La Rams playbook. The last

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Speaker 2: few years, their leadership has not gone either, however, so

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Speaker 2: they're taking a little bit, a little bit of flak

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Speaker 2: for that was usually the first question I was asked

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Speaker 2: walking around Radio Row.

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Speaker 5: Why aren't they here? Why aren't they what's going on?

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Speaker 5: What's the deal?

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Speaker 2: And then then they realize, oh yeah, there are forty

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Speaker 2: other staffers for the Jaguars there, whole scouting department is there.

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Speaker 5: For the most part. Medical staff is there, which was.

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Speaker 4: The original purpose for the combine to begin.

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Speaker 2: With, right, So it's not like the Jaguars are not

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Speaker 2: represented there. They're doing interviews with prospects, they're timing and

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Speaker 2: testing players on the field, and the medical staff looked

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Speaker 2: at like one hundred guys yesterday alone.

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Speaker 5: So that all is going on, does it matter that

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Speaker 5: the Big three are not there? Though? In the long run.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it matters that they're not there because

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Speaker 4: they can actually have more productive use of their time

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Speaker 4: by not being there. Let me ask you a question, JP, Yes, sir, okay,

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Speaker 4: because one of the arguments about being there is that, okay, look,

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Speaker 4: you get to see the prospects, you get to see

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Speaker 4: how they interact, and you get to spend fifteen minutes

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Speaker 4: talking to them in a room by yourself, okay. Which

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Speaker 4: most of those guys are all prepped and ready for

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Speaker 4: that type of interview, right. They work with their agents,

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Speaker 4: they work with interview coaches, the whole nine yards, prepping

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Speaker 4: for the whole combine experience speed dating. So the amount

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Speaker 4: of time that it takes to interview the prospect and

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Speaker 4: then also the amount of time that it takes to

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Speaker 4: get to the combine, to travel between prospect interviews, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, Could you spend better time vetting the player,

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Speaker 4: talking to people that was around the prospects to get

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Speaker 4: a true one standing of what that person is in

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Speaker 4: his true environment versus a fifteen minute conversation sitting down

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Speaker 4: watching film or just having a conversation.

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Speaker 5: Right, It's an excellent point.

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Speaker 4: I mean to me, I want to go and make

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Speaker 4: phone calls and talk to his college coach, his college buddies,

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Speaker 4: people that he grew up with. I mean, do background

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Speaker 4: checks the whole nine yards. I mean to me, the

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Speaker 4: total vetting process should not be a fifteen minute interview.

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Speaker 4: To me, if you're putting so much emphasis on fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 4: you're missing the boat. You can't find out what the

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Speaker 4: true value, the true being of that person is in

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Speaker 4: that fashion. Now, there are some that will shine in

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Speaker 4: that interview, okay, and they may end up turned out

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Speaker 4: to be great guys, great people. And there are some

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Speaker 4: that will shine in that interview that when they walk

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Speaker 4: out of that door, they will morph fright back into

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Speaker 4: the turd that they were before they walked in that door, right, Okay,

523
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Speaker 4: that's the reality. So I want to find out if

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Speaker 4: this guy is good or bad outside in his normal environment.

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Speaker 4: And later in the pre draft process you can get

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Speaker 4: prospects on the zoom and talk to him remotely. If

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Speaker 4: there's thirty visits as well, and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they're going to do those. They didn't do him last week. Again,

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Speaker 4: I mean making the best use of your time. Would

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Speaker 4: you rather watch an extra film on guys to really

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Speaker 4: understand their skill set and talk to people that was

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Speaker 4: around that player. I just think, you know, the only

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Speaker 4: thing I think that you lose out on from the

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Speaker 4: combine standpoint is the exposure for the organization for all

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Speaker 4: the media and other markets around the league.

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Speaker 2: Because there's podium time for both the GM and the

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Speaker 2: head coach, and they make the rounds and they're on

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk and they're on McAfee and all these things.

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Speaker 4: And it's the same thing kind of we talk about

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the draft and that hey, look,

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Speaker 4: use your allotted time when you're on the clock, because

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Speaker 4: your logo and you're in the conversation on the TV

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Speaker 4: is about your football team and where it's at and

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Speaker 4: your organization, the players, et cetera, et cetera. So that's

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Speaker 4: stuff that you can't pay for. So in a lot

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Speaker 4: of ways, you know, would you like to have somebody

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Speaker 4: there for that exposure, publicity, et cetera. Yeah, maybe, but

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Speaker 4: are there other ways to get that? Okay, the most

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Speaker 4: important way to get that is to win football game,

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Speaker 4: absolutely right, And so if you're spending your energy trying

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Speaker 4: to be smart and getting really good football players, that's

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Speaker 4: probably more important than spending a little bit of time

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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis to meet the media.

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Speaker 5: And the other part of it too.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen did a lot of that stuff super Bowl week.

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Speaker 5: He went around Radio ro because he was.

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Speaker 2: There for the honors and you know, came in second

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Speaker 2: in the Coach of the Year voting.

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Speaker 4: And also, look, you can do a lot of that

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Speaker 4: stuff from here.

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Speaker 5: You can talk to the media, et.

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Speaker 4: Cetera, from your home city and from your office here,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. So yeah, I mean, you know, the reality

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Speaker 4: is is that when you go all the way back

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Speaker 4: to the beginning of the combine, the foundation of the

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Speaker 4: combine was a medical check. That's what it was. And

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Speaker 4: now it's turned into more of that just beginning of

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Speaker 4: the popularity of the NFL has just skyrocketed and people

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Speaker 4: can't get enough of the NFL. And so as this

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Speaker 4: kind of dead period exists, this kind of fills a

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Speaker 4: little bit of the fans void for football, and people

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Speaker 4: now have gotten into the forty times and the measurements

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Speaker 4: and interviews and the conversation conversation about prospect, conversation about teams,

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Speaker 4: and so I mean, I get it. But again, the

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Speaker 4: very foundation beginnings of the combine was about medical.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a feeling, well you had kind of

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Speaker 2: a medical story the Combine.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know if we need to go that deep.

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Speaker 2: You know, recruiting practices of some agents are interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now it's not like it used to be. Agents are

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Speaker 2: sign much earlier. Now it's not you're not like searching

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Speaker 2: for you know. But I don't know how detailed we

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Speaker 2: need to get into that.

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Speaker 4: No, I just don't just say this. You know, when

585
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Speaker 4: when when I was at Virginia, I mean I was,

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Speaker 4: you know, clean cut, kind of young guy.

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Speaker 5: You were getting ready for the draft. You had to

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Speaker 5: be clean cy and you try to unpress teams.

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Speaker 4: I just, you know, I didn't realize that there was

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Speaker 4: this this level of filth that existed in the agent business.

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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I thought all people were good and kind of wholesome

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Speaker 4: and honest. I didn't realize that there was a slimy

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Speaker 4: element that existed in parts of this world. And so

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Speaker 4: I had to combine one time. I mean, he had, oh,

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Speaker 4: here we go, they get to tell the story a

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Speaker 4: little bit.

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Speaker 5: Okay, clean it up.

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Speaker 4: I was at the Common I'll clean it up. Is

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Speaker 4: that the combine, and I already had an agent. I

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Speaker 4: had Brad Blank, who was based out of Chestnut Hill, Boston, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 4: who was wonderful. He was a great agent, did a

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Speaker 4: great job and still does some things to this day.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you a cool story about that too

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Speaker 4: in a minute. But so I'd already had Brad, you know,

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Speaker 4: and we were hanging out with some of the scouts

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Speaker 4: and stuff that we're friends of his. And we happened

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Speaker 4: to be at one of the hotels and sitting there

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Speaker 4: with Brad, and all of a sudden, some agent comes

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Speaker 4: up and introduces himself to me, and you know, he's

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Speaker 4: got slick back hair, and he's got a very pretty

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Speaker 4: woman with him, and and there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: insinuation about because I didn't say, hey, this is Brad,

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Speaker 4: my agent. I just say, this is a friend of mine, Brad,

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Speaker 4: and this is you know, a friend of the family

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Speaker 4: that's here with me at the combine who happened to

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Speaker 4: be a scout for the New Orleans Saints at that time.

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Speaker 4: And this agent comes up, you know, he sits down,

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Speaker 4: he's talking all this stuff, and there's this very very again,

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Speaker 4: very pretty woman with him. And and it was, uh,

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Speaker 4: what's the right way to say this. It was very

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable because she was looking at me. Oh I see,

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Speaker 4: and you could tell that that was kind of her job,

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00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: I guess. And I'd never really been in that situation before.

625
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Speaker 4: And I was very embarrassed because I mean I was like,

626
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Speaker 4: what is going on here? And then when they left,

627
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Speaker 4: Thank goodness they left, Brad talked to me and he goes, man,

628
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Speaker 4: he goes, that was very different. I said, yeah, because

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Speaker 4: the girl was not like an associate of his. It

630
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Speaker 4: was a she was an associate of his in some way. Yeah, yeah,

631
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Speaker 4: kind of like that. Yeah. That was yeah, not cool.

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00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: So the story is you stayed with your agent. You

633
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Speaker 4: didn't bolt to go to the other agent. Oh no, no, no, no,

634
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Speaker 4: just making sure everybody's on the same page.

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Speaker 5: That's fine.

636
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Speaker 4: No, But yeah, there were some guys that were very

637
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Speaker 4: excited to me eat this agent's associate at the combine.

638
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. And I'm not gonna mention any names.

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Speaker 5: I won't probably not, probably not.

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00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Speaking of the Combine, I was there

641
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: this week and caught up with all of the AC

642
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: South announcers and starting tonight, in the next three weeks,

643
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: we'll hear from one of each of the teams each week.

644
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: How about that? Who you got today?

645
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna start at the top, Well, the Jaguars at

646
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: the top and second place, we'll go straight down the list.

647
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Vanderm in terms of rank, in terms of standing, you

648
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: got the Texans played by play guard Mark Random, Mark

649
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: vander Yeah, goode been at it since day one of

650
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: the texts him and uh andre Ware andre Ware formed

651
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: the team of the Houston Texans radio broadcast and henre Ware, former.

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Speaker 4: Jaguar, was he wasn't he a Jaguar for a minute?

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Speaker 5: No? I don't think so. Was it he here?

654
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Speaker 4: I thought he was here for a minute.

655
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Speaker 5: You're just making this stuff. I don't know.

656
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Speaker 4: He's a good dude though. He's one of my favorite guys.

657
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: He's been Trophy by the way. His the job that

658
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: he does on college football is tremendous. He does a

659
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: really good job on college football.

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Speaker 2: So starting tonight, it's look at the division rivals and

661
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: inside look tonight at the Houston Texans that hated Houston

662
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Speaker 2: Texans with Mark vandermer Well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, JP, I'm glad you said the hated

664
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Speaker 3: Texans because I think we got to lean into this

665
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Speaker 3: this friendly, fun rivalry stuff.

666
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Speaker 5: Right.

667
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: I was on with Matt Taylor and the Colts, and

668
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: I said, listen, the Colts are my sworn, mortal football enemy.

669
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Speaker 3: Like I hate the Colts more than anything.

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Speaker 6: Sports wise in this world. I always feel like.

671
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Speaker 3: Hate belongs in sports, not in real life. Right, So

672
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: in sports we're allowed to hate. It's healthy hate. I

673
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: love Matt, and I love the people at the Colts,

674
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Speaker 3: and I love you, and I love Frank and everybody.

675
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Speaker 6: Works with the Jaguars and John and et cetera.

676
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Speaker 3: But hey, it's odd when we're on the field, right,

677
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars are a big rival, of course. And

678
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: I didn't like it at all that we're chasing down

679
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: the Jaguars down the stretch of the season and they

680
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: refused to lose. They just kept it going. And the

681
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: game at Denver, I thought, well, this time, it's definitely

682
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Speaker 3: over now. I mean, they did what they did before

683
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: it is over against Denver, and it wasn't. So that

684
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: was a real tough pill to swallow that the Jags

685
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Speaker 3: won the division. Luckily for the Texans, they still got

686
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Speaker 3: into the postseason.

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Speaker 6: But I think the Jags are very dangerous.

688
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Speaker 3: And I thought Trevor Lawrence, I didn't know what was

689
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: going to happen. You know, it was down, it was up,

690
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: it was down again, and now it's up again. And

691
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Speaker 3: now Liam Collins seems to have figured something out with

692
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Speaker 3: him and they got it going on. So very good

693
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: rivalry developing here and it's going to be exciting this

694
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Speaker 3: year and beyond Mark.

695
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Speaker 2: This Houston defense was so nasty this season. They just

696
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: had an extra bite to them. It felt like they

697
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: just wanted to suffocate whoever they played in Houston history. Right,

698
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Speaker 2: where does it ring in terms of defensive seasons all time?

699
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Speaker 3: This is the best season defensively we've seen from the Texans. Now,

700
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: we've had some good defenses. Number two and twenty eleven

701
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: that was good. That was Wats rookie year, but it

702
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: was really about him. It was Brian Cushing and Demiko

703
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: Ryans and Wade Phillips coaching the d for the first time.

704
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Speaker 3: Twenty twelve was pretty good. They're the number one defense

705
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Speaker 3: in the league yardage wise. In twenty sixteen, number three

706
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Speaker 3: and fifteen led the league in takeaways, I believe in

707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: fourteen or close to it, and so they've had some

708
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: good ones JP, but this was not only good yardage

709
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: wise points per game. They finished second to the Seahawks

710
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: by two tenths of a point because the Texans rested

711
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Speaker 3: guys in Week eighteen, the Colts put up thirty had

712
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: they held them to twenty. The Texans are winning both

713
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Speaker 3: categories and we're looking at possibly historic defense.

714
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Speaker 6: Have they been able to advance.

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Speaker 3: On the postseason? Everyone talks about the Seattle defenses. That's

716
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Speaker 3: the next legion to boom or whatever, or legion.

717
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Speaker 6: To doom whatever.

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Speaker 3: To me, I'm really regretful of the way it all ended.

719
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: But this defense was taken us for such a fun

720
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Speaker 3: rise ride. All the turnovers forced, all the great opportunities,

721
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: all the great moments throughout. It was really fun to watch.

722
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Speaker 3: And they all get along so well. It's a tight

723
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Speaker 3: unit on and off the field.

724
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Speaker 5: Is it sustainable on defense?

725
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: How many holes are coming up free agency and otherwise.

726
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Speaker 3: Everybody's back other than Sheldon Rankins at defensive tackle. Fully

727
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Speaker 3: fun of Kasi and also Tim Settle those three guys,

728
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Speaker 3: But have they if they do nothing? If they have

729
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: to play a game this weekend, for instance, they have

730
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Speaker 3: Tommy Togiai coming back and Mario Edwards returning from injury.

731
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Speaker 6: So those two.

732
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Speaker 3: Guys right there are good starters if you will for them.

733
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Speaker 6: But I think Rankins is really important.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't come back in free agency, I don't

735
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Speaker 3: know what they do. They have to find a way

736
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Speaker 3: to at least replace him. Not only caliber or play JP,

737
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: but also the kind of leader he is. Rankins is

738
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: great for this team. So Rankins. Tim Settle is another

739
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: good one.

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Speaker 6: So they that was the.

741
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Speaker 3: One position that got injury bitten on defense, along with

742
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Speaker 3: say the opposite Kaylen Bullock.

743
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 6: So safety was never really in great shape. MJ.

744
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: Stewart held it down for a while. They used numerous

745
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: players back there. Jalen Reid got healthy at the end

746
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: of the season, the rookie from Penn State. That was

747
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: pretty good. But let me tell you, everybody's back, daneil Hunter,

748
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: Will Anderson Junior. I mentioned Togii as he's au Schier's back.

749
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Speaker 3: You got the two corners back, maybe the two best

750
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: corners or at least among them in the NFL. Greg

751
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: Cosell was on with us. He thinks Calen Bullock is

752
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: the best deep safety in the league. He's back, of course,

753
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: So this is gonna be fun to watch them operate again.

754
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: Probably not for Jaguars, Colts and Titans fans, but we'll

755
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: see how it goes.

756
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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermer, Voice of the Houston Texans. Let's go to

757
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: offense now, and Davis Mills had to comeback to beat

758
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: the Jaguars and started that whole run down the stretch.

759
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: How many questions are there about CJ. Stroud and his

760
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: future and where he sits in the organization, Well, just

761
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Speaker 2: like any topic with the jack and I'm sure you

762
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: guys look at it like this, there's what the.

763
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: People outside the building think, and the people inside the

764
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: building might have a different opinion, right, and we might

765
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: have a different opinion than everybody, So who knows. But

766
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Speaker 3: my opinion is this that when you look at CJ. Stroud,

767
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: this is a fact. The season he had, they improved

768
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: in so many different categories. Offensively, they never really lit

769
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: it up, but he made some clutch throws.

770
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Speaker 6: It was timely hitting. To me, it's like baseball.

771
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 3: You know, they stole second and they got the base

772
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: knock when they needed it to drive the runner home

773
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: and bam, they go home with a win. Even Mills Yeah.

774
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 3: He had that third and goal from the fourteen run

775
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: against the Jaguars, which I think is the play of

776
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: the year for the Texans, completely turned their season around.

777
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: The next week, we're at Tennessee and it's thirteen thirteen

778
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: and it's gonna go bad maybe, and it's third down

779
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: and sixteen in Houston's end of the field. Mills hits

780
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: Nico Collins for the conversion. They eventually hit the field goal.

781
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Get out of there. That was timely hitting on the offense,

782
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: and CJ had a number of throws like that throughout

783
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Speaker 3: the course of the year. I think CJ is going

784
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: to be fine, but he's got to shake off the

785
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: playoff performance.

786
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Speaker 6: I mean against the Patriots. Four picks in the first half.

787
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: He obviously can't have that because if all you do

788
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: is putt, if all you do is hang out of

789
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: the ball and putt, you probably win that game. And

790
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: they tried to force a few things. Now, in fairness

791
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 3: to him, No, Trent Brown, that was a late scratch

792
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: in that game. Nico Collins already out, Dalton Schultz goes

793
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: out relatively early. Got to overcome those things. Another thing

794
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: JP is, since he came back from the concussion. He

795
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: stopped running with the football to protect himself and you

796
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 3: got to I get it. But in the playoffs, man,

797
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: it is so tough. Look at Drake May he ran

798
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: the daylights out of the football. Bo Nicks runs with

799
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: the football. I know Knicks got hurt, but you.

800
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.

801
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: You got to be able to take off and run

802
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: with it, and he was reluctant to do it, and

803
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: for health reasons.

804
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 6: I get it.

805
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: It affected them though, because the other weapons that I

806
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: just mentioned were down, so it was another reason why

807
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: they couldn't get it going offensively.

808
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: Final one with you, what are the two greatest needs

809
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: this offseason for.

810
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: Houston offensive line configuration? And we said this about last year,

811
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: but they're still working on it because at Ingram played

812
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: really well for them. At guard, he's a free agent.

813
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: They got to figure that out if nothing else. And

814
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: at right tackle, Trent Brown's a free agent and the

815
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: winning streak was built with Trent Brown at right tackle.

816
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: So do they like Blake Fisher? Do they go somewhere else?

817
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: I know people don't like to hear about offensive lineman

818
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: on other teams, but that is a big topic. And

819
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: running back because Nick Chubb's a free agent. Wood he

820
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: Mark's coming back. Great, but who's the other guys at

821
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: Chubb coming back?

822
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

823
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if that would be enough for them.

824
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: Everyone asks about Joe Mixon. I have no idea. I

825
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: would doubt that they would rely on him. It'd be

826
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: great to have him back, but I think even if

827
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: they traded for Kenneth Walker and Mixon came back, to'd

828
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, great luxury problem, let's deal with it.

829
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Speaker 3: Not traded for Kenneth Walker, signed him in free agency.

830
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 6: Whatever.

831
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: But you get my drift here. I think running back

832
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: and the old line. But every team Johnny and I

833
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: John Harrison, I did a whole show on under the

834
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: radar needs, and every team has those two. For instance,

835
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 3: Tommy Townsend, the punter is a free agent. You gotta

836
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: get a punter, and it's a really important position on

837
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: a football team. I mean, people pooh poo it, but

838
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: ask the coaches in the front office. Oh, no, we

839
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: need a punter. We need somebody to pin the ball deep.

840
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

841
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 6: We need somebody to get the ball off cleanly.

842
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: Go watch a combine workout of punters and you'll see

843
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: why punters last ten to.

844
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 6: Fifteen years in this league. They're hard to find.

845
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Mark, and let the rivalry continue.

846
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: Absolutely, JP, let's go.

847
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: Mark Vandermier, voice of the Houston Texans. Always a pleasure

848
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: to visit with him. Next week we'll hear from the

849
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts and Matt Taylor.

850
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: They've got a lot work to do in Indy.

851
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, obviously Houston split the season series

852
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: with the Jaguars. That game in Houston, the blown seventeen

853
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: point lead turned the season for both teams. Neither team

854
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: lost after that, and of course Houston goes in as

855
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: a wild card twelve and five, five and one on

856
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: the division. They win in the first round card game,

857
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: they beat the Steelers thirty to six, and then they

858
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: lost to the Patriots who were on that role in

859
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: the AFC Divisional playoff game. And yeah, offensive line really

860
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: was a big question mark a lot of this season

861
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: in Houston, a lot of injuries, a lot of changes

862
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: up front.

863
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look, I know that it was interesting

864
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: here about how there's an opinion outside about c. J.

865
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: Stroud versus inside and all that stuff and his opinion

866
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: and look, the reality is is that their quarterback. His

867
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: rookie year was a year that you were sitting there thinking,

868
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: to Miselle yourself, this is the next Patrick Mahomes. And

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Speaker 4: then since then it's been nothing but disappointment. And you've

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Speaker 4: got a defense that is hands down the best defense

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League, and they bailed him.

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Speaker 5: Out constantly, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Constantly down the stretch and they were winning because of

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Speaker 4: the defense and not because of their quarterback c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 4: So how he develops in the future is obviously gonna

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Speaker 4: be a paramount to their chances of success. But that

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Speaker 4: defense is legit if they add to it, because from

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Speaker 4: listening to him, it seems like everybody contractually that they

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Speaker 4: want to keep is gonna come back. So they have

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Speaker 4: the ability to make that defense even better, which is scary.

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Speaker 4: And uh, they've got to find a way to help

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Speaker 4: their quarterback out, and he's got to find a way

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Speaker 4: to help himself out.

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Speaker 2: Let's return and we'll hear from Microsoft co pilot. It's

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Speaker 2: also another thing we do on Monday Show. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear from Microsoft. We're not gonna hear, We're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at it. It doesn't talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Oh I thought maybe we're gonna hear it talk. No,

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Speaker 4: I don't think I thought. I thought the open doors house.

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Speaker 4: I was just wondering did I miss something while I've

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Speaker 4: been out for the last month.

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Speaker 2: To next la him, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome Back, It is Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Our Final moments from the Hundai Studios ten tenex Lam,

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Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadwick Jeff Logwan time

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Speaker 2: to get Microsoft co Pilot to help us Today Logs.

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Speaker 5: With a division rival quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: The question how long does Anthony Richardson have remaining on

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Speaker 2: his contract with the Colts? Of course, well, Richardson is

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Speaker 2: in the third year of his four year rookie contract,

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Speaker 2: which runs through the twenty twenty sixth season. He'll become

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Speaker 2: a fourth year player March eleventh, when the league year begins,

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Speaker 2: and they have until May first to figure out if

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Speaker 2: they want to take the fifth year.

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Speaker 5: Option on him or not.

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Speaker 2: They also set Today reports today that he can go

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Speaker 2: find a trade if he wants to. His representation can

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Speaker 2: go try to find one. Yeah, absolutely with the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and you do you think anybody is

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Speaker 4: gonna trade for him. Here's the crazy answer. Yeah, probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's a freak athlete. Well, I mean you think gets

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Speaker 4: hurt a lot. I mean, well, I mean he gets

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Speaker 4: hurt a lot, but he's a freakish athlete. But the

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Speaker 4: reality is is that, you know, quarterbacks on rookie contracts

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Speaker 4: are not cost prohibitive, correct, So if you want to

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Speaker 4: take it for a spin, you know, test drive the

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Speaker 4: car a year, so to speak, with with zero commitment

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Speaker 4: or obligation to pay any previous signing bonus, all you're

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Speaker 4: paying is paragraph five, which is you know salary. You

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Speaker 4: know the signing bonus has already been paid and gone.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't have any of that associated with your cap.

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Speaker 4: I think there may be somebody that would be willing

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Speaker 4: to do that for you know, a biscuit, you know,

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Speaker 4: late seventh round, seventh round, sixth round pick, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to think, because look, the reality is is that

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Speaker 4: that's the most valuable position on the field, period. And

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Speaker 4: there are some people that will go back and look

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Speaker 4: at their evaluations of Anthony Richardson back when he was

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Speaker 4: draft eligible and will rely on those and assume that

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Speaker 4: you know what, hey, we can coach them up. You know,

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Speaker 4: why would we not want to have an athlete of

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Speaker 4: that caliber. They didn't know what they were doing down here.

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Speaker 4: We know they would do a good job.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: We have some answers. We have the system that Anthony

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Speaker 4: Richardson can thrive in. I mean I wouldn't. I would

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Speaker 4: not be surprised. And I think some of this can

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Speaker 4: be a little bit of arrogance at times that they

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Speaker 4: think that they can make a player. But Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that it's arrogance, but quarterback friendly

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Speaker 4: systems that quarterbacks that have previously been cast off to

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Speaker 4: where they have thrived. Two places jump out and come

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Speaker 4: to mind. One of them is quarterback needy Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 4: The other one San Francisco forty nine ers. Would you

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Speaker 4: not take a gamble with Kyle Shanahan trying to teach

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Speaker 4: somebody that has talents of those caliber?

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Speaker 5: Interesting?

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Speaker 4: You know, so Rochester, that will be interesting to watch.

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Speaker 2: A few quick headlines here. Mike Evans, the Bucks wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: His agent said today that he wants to look at

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Speaker 2: all all thirty two teams in free agency.

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Speaker 5: Would you dare?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think he's a great wide receiver. Still to

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Speaker 4: this day, he's a Hall of Fame wide receiver and

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Speaker 4: he still plays at an incredibly high level. He had

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Speaker 4: some injuries last year, but look, that's the game of football.

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Speaker 4: It's not like he had injuries because he was old.

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Speaker 4: He's still producing at a crazy level. Absolutely, I would

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Speaker 4: consider him.

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Speaker 2: You hat like a long game with a catch streak too,

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Speaker 2: like something ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: He's so good. Yeah, when the ball's in the air,

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Speaker 4: do you ever think for a minute that he's not

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Speaker 4: going to come down with it?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's still got speed, got great catch radius.

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Speaker 4: Take him any day of the week.

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Speaker 2: A couple other notes here. Top defensive line prospect at

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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior out of Miami had his arm length

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Speaker 2: measured at the combine under thirty one inches.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty short.

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Speaker 5: Have you turned on the tape?

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Speaker 4: He's pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I call that the the let's not get

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Speaker 4: overly concerned with the measurement factor, you know, because there

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Speaker 4: were some guys that last time I checked, played pretty

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Speaker 4: good football when their measurements didn't exactly measure up to par.

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Speaker 4: According to a lot of people's levels of acceptance, certain

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Speaker 4: on the Miami Notre Dame game and then answer that

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Speaker 4: question for me. He was, I mean freak show with

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Speaker 4: Dwight Freenye did he have very long on I think

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Speaker 4: he was okay too.

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Speaker 2: Another division rival, the Titans, acquiring defensive end Jermaine Johnson

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Speaker 2: from the Jets for Tovandre's Sweat the big nose tackles

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Speaker 2: out of the division.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you know what, And that's very interesting trade

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Speaker 4: for me because Devandre Sweat doesn't exactly have a very

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Speaker 4: good reputation off the field, and so you're going to

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Speaker 4: an organization that needs to try to build something. To me,

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Speaker 4: that's uh, that's interesting. But Jermaine Johnson I think is

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Speaker 4: a very good football pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh, But Tovandre Sweat, I don't know if he would

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Speaker 4: be what you would consider a cultural building block at all.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back next week. Newly Year starts March eleventh,

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Speaker 2: the start a free agency, then the NFL Annual meeting,

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Speaker 2: and of March. We've got a little bit of time

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Speaker 2: between now and the next tent Pole event Logs.

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Speaker 5: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: You got it, Jeff log But I'MTP Shadduck And thanks

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Speaker 2: to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reaver, and thanks to you

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Speaker 2: for listening and watching.

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Speaker 5: It's Shaguars Happy Hour.