WEBVTT - Forbidden Love

0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Hidden Gin, a production of I Heart

0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minky Listener. Discretion

0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:32.279
<v Speaker 1>is advised many many years ago, in what seems like

0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole other lifetime. I had been a single parent

0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.680
<v Speaker 1>for quite a while, but I got remarried and I

0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.720
<v Speaker 1>moved from the DC area to Connecticut, where my new

0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.600
<v Speaker 1>husband was studying at a seminary. I'd moved to Connecticut

0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.120
<v Speaker 1>without ever having first visited it. I just picked up

0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.720
<v Speaker 1>my belongings and my young daughter bundled up in a

0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.480
<v Speaker 1>U haul and drove north. And while we lived in Hartford,

0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the capital of the state, it was a pretty sleepy place,

0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and I soon found myself sprit to fill my time

0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and make friends. So I sought out volunteer opportunities with

0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>organizations that I figured would attract like minded people, and

0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I was right. It turned out to be a great

0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.640
<v Speaker 1>way to make friends. One of those friends was a

0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>young woman in her late twenties, a researcher at Yale

0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.959
<v Speaker 1>who was volunteering at a relatively new advocacy organization. For

0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.919
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of the story, I will call her Sarah.

0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.319
<v Speaker 1>She and I were the only women in the group,

0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and having spent a lot of time together helping a

0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>new organization get off the ground, we ended up becoming friends.

0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Sarah was petite, but full of energy, incredibly dependable, thoughtful,

0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and warm. I took a liking to her immediately. She

0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>would come over to my plays, hang out with my

0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>family and other friends, and we'd meet up for coffee.

0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But I never went over to her place ever. I

0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.720
<v Speaker 1>knew that Sarah lived alone in an apartment in New Haven,

0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.040
<v Speaker 1>an apartment that she had moved into fairly recently. Now

0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we have been friends about a year when inevitably, one

0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.960
<v Speaker 1>day our conversation turned to merrite. Because the matchmaker and

0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.480
<v Speaker 1>me can't help but ask my single friends if they're

0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.520
<v Speaker 1>looking to meet someone. So I asked Sarah if she

0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was open to being introduced to a couple of eligible

0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.040
<v Speaker 1>bachelors that I already had in mind. Sarah took a

0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:24.760
<v Speaker 1>deep sigh and said, I'd love to, but I just can't. Now.

0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't exactly sure what she meant by that. Was

0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.959
<v Speaker 1>she too busy? Was she interested in someone else already?

0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Was she just painfully shy? Sarah went on, She said, Robbia,

0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going to think I'm crazy. But I have a problem.

0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I've wanted to meet the right guy and settled down

0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for years, but there's this this thing. It won't let me.

0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.440
<v Speaker 1>At that point, I thought, oh, maybe there's a health

0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.120
<v Speaker 1>issue she thinks is preventing her from being in a relationship.

0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't that at all. Sarah went on to

0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.400
<v Speaker 1>explain that for years, verse since she was a teenager,

0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>a gin had been following her. She tried everything to

0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.560
<v Speaker 1>get rid of it, prayers and amulets, seeking help from

0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.200
<v Speaker 1>spiritual healers, consulting exorcists, moving from one city to another,

0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.200
<v Speaker 1>moving from one apartment to another, but everywhere she went

0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.160
<v Speaker 1>it followed her. While mostly it didn't bother her, there

0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.440
<v Speaker 1>had been times it scared the heck out of her,

0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.239
<v Speaker 1>showing her that it was there with her at all

0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.680
<v Speaker 1>times and that it was powerful. Once, said Sarah, she

0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.520
<v Speaker 1>woke up in the middle of the night, disoriented. The

0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.120
<v Speaker 1>ceiling looked much lower than it had before, and she

0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.200
<v Speaker 1>thought for a second that she was dreaming, But she wasn't.

0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>She was hovering, floating a good foot or two above

0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>her bed, suspended and frozen in fright. She opened her

0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.000
<v Speaker 1>mouth to scream, but nothing came. Out. She said every

0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>prayer she could remember in her heart, and suddenly she fell,

0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>flopping back into her bed. Another time, she woke up,

0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.400
<v Speaker 1>warm and cozy on her blanket, still in bed, but

0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>her bed had been dragged to the other side of

0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the room. And then there are countless times that objects

0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.600
<v Speaker 1>moved from one place to another, things disappeared and reappeared,

0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Voices whispered from empty corners of her apartment, cabinets creaked

0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.880
<v Speaker 1>open and closed by themselves. There was always an increase

0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in activity, she realized when she began getting romantically involved

0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with somebody else. Eventually, one of the religious leaders she

0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.080
<v Speaker 1>consulted he knew about her entire Gin history, told her

0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that the Gin was really possessive, and it was jealous

0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of any man who got too close to her. That

0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for her getting into a relationship might be an impossibility.

0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.719
<v Speaker 1>The Gin wouldn't let it happen, because, you see, the

0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Gin was in love with Sarah. Now, of course, as

0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.839
<v Speaker 1>she's telling me these things, I went through a range

0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of emotions. This is ridiculous. I thought she's lying. She

0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.520
<v Speaker 1>has to be lying, But why would she lie. She's

0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:04.320
<v Speaker 1>not a lot, sire, She's level headed, smart, educated, honest. Okay, well,

0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's hallucinating imagining things. But over and over again,

0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.440
<v Speaker 1>for years and years, I remembered. I wasn't sure what

0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to do with my face. She was dead serious, and

0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.039
<v Speaker 1>I was confused. I returned home that day and told

0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.640
<v Speaker 1>my husband the story as he munched on some cookies. Yeah,

0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.560
<v Speaker 1>he said, completely unphased. That happens. He happened to know

0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot more about Jin than I did, so that's

0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.080
<v Speaker 1>when I first began digging deeper into the world of Gin,

0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.080
<v Speaker 1>tracking down everything I could find to read and learn

0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.560
<v Speaker 1>about them. Sure, I had heard spooky stories growing up,

0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and was familiar with some of the scripture that mentioned

0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.479
<v Speaker 1>these beings. But the more I learned, the more I

0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.920
<v Speaker 1>realized I didn't know. Every rabbit hole led to another,

0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And in one of those rabbit holes, I found centuries

0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of stories, love stories between humans and Gin. Like in

0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Sarah's case, it wasn't always a two way street, but

0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.120
<v Speaker 1>in many cases the love of was mutual. Today will

0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.840
<v Speaker 1>explore what happens when lovers aren't just star crossed, they're

0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.840
<v Speaker 1>supernaturally crossed. My name is Robbia Chaudry, and I'll be

0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.279
<v Speaker 1>your guide into the world of the Hidden Gin welcome.

0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.719
<v Speaker 1>If you aren't familiar with one thousand and one Nights,

0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you might think the only time Agin appears in the

0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.360
<v Speaker 1>whole volume is in the Tale of Aladdin and a

0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Genie from the Magic Lamp. If so, you might be

0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.880
<v Speaker 1>surprised to learn that not only wasn't this story a

0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.320
<v Speaker 1>part of the original collection in one thousand and one Nights,

0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but also that there are many other Gin stories that

0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.679
<v Speaker 1>are Some stories, however, are less palatable for the subject

0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of Disney films than others, and certainly, if there was

0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.440
<v Speaker 1>one subject that American audiences weren't ready for, it's the

0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.200
<v Speaker 1>repeated theme in one thousand and one Nights of love, marriage,

0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and sexual relationships between Gin and humans. While these stories

0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.640
<v Speaker 1>may seem wondrous and fantastic, they were delivered to an

0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.720
<v Speaker 1>audience that not only widely believed in the existence of Gin,

0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.280
<v Speaker 1>but in a coexistence between Gin and mankind, in which

0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the Gin occupied both supernatural and earthly planes, interacting with humans,

0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:29.400
<v Speaker 1>living alongside them, communicating with them, and naturally, given the

0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:34.160
<v Speaker 1>right circumstances, it was understood and accepted that both humans

0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and Gin could and would develop romantic feelings for one another,

0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.240
<v Speaker 1>which takes us back to the many tales, the one

0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one of them that Shahrazadey told her king

0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to keep him entertained and to keep herself alive, where

0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.640
<v Speaker 1>we repeatedly come across this theme. In one story, we

0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.200
<v Speaker 1>learn about a far away place called the Mountain of

0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bereaved Mother, given this name by passing fishermen who

0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.280
<v Speaker 1>heard ways and moans whenever they passed by the island

0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.680
<v Speaker 1>where the mountain stood. According to the tale, a beautiful

0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.360
<v Speaker 1>female Jin, a Ginia from China, had once fallen in

0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.680
<v Speaker 1>love with a mortal man, which didn't fare well with

0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.280
<v Speaker 1>her Jin family. She was desperate to have him, though,

0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and she came up with an idea. She searched the

0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.560
<v Speaker 1>entire world for a place that no man or Jin

0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.880
<v Speaker 1>could access, and found an island in the middle of

0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sea of Troubles, And so she whisked her love

0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.120
<v Speaker 1>away to that island, with or without his consent, it's unclear,

0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.920
<v Speaker 1>but she kept him there for the rest of his life.

0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.560
<v Speaker 1>She would secretly visit him, sneaking away from her Gin family,

0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and over the years they ended up having many children together.

0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Now how she hid that from her family is unclear. However,

0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.280
<v Speaker 1>every time she had a child, she would leave it

0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.000
<v Speaker 1>behind on the mountain with the other children and their father,

0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and the moans and the cries heard by fishermen were

0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in fact the whales of lonely children crying for their mother.

0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.600
<v Speaker 1>A complic hated love story, if you will, and whether

0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.200
<v Speaker 1>or not had a happy ending is debatable. Nonetheless, that

0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Ginia got her Man One thousand and one Nights has

0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.520
<v Speaker 1>dozens and dozens of such tales of human gin love,

0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.520
<v Speaker 1>sometimes ending in socially accepted marriage, other times ending up

0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:25.000
<v Speaker 1>an elopement, abduction, and even death. Now you might be thinking, well,

0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.640
<v Speaker 1>these are tales told within a tale and are about

0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.720
<v Speaker 1>as real as the vampire human love stories in Twilight

0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.440
<v Speaker 1>or True Blood. Maybe, But then you have the real

0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.400
<v Speaker 1>life stories like Sarah's and many others, and at one

0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.959
<v Speaker 1>point in time it was actually pretty commonly accepted that

0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:46.760
<v Speaker 1>these relationships took place. As one example of how ubiquitous

0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and while normal, the very idea of human gen romance was,

0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.520
<v Speaker 1>we turned to a tenth century volume titled All Fairest,

0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:59.600
<v Speaker 1>which means the Catalog, and it was indeed a catalog.

0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, alphaist is considered to be the very first

0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.760
<v Speaker 1>such catalog in history, indexing over ten thousand books inciting

0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.679
<v Speaker 1>to over two thousand authors. It was written and compiled

0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.800
<v Speaker 1>by the brilliant Bardadi polymath is shock Ibbin al Nadim,

0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:22.760
<v Speaker 1>who himself described the book as such, This is a

0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.440
<v Speaker 1>catalog of books of all peoples, Arab and non Arab,

0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.240
<v Speaker 1>existing in Arabic language and Arabic script, dealing with various sciences,

0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.040
<v Speaker 1>together with the accounts of those who composed them, and

0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the categories of their authors, their genealogies, dates of birth,

0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.439
<v Speaker 1>length of life, times of death, locations of the cities,

0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and their virtues and faults, from the beginning of each

0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:49.800
<v Speaker 1>science to this our own time. That time, by the way,

0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:55.280
<v Speaker 1>was the year b c. The catalog basically indexes every

0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.760
<v Speaker 1>book ever written in Arabic up to that point in time,

0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:04.439
<v Speaker 1>over a hugely vast array of subjects, politics, religion, history, science, literature, poetry,

0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and yes, the supernatural and I'll know them. Had two

0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.800
<v Speaker 1>sections directly relevant to our subject at hand. One section

0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.640
<v Speaker 1>titled names of those of mankind who loved the Gin

0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and vice versa, and the second section titled Lovers of

0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the Gin. These sections contained long lists of human Gin couples,

0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.640
<v Speaker 1>including head scratching entries like quote, I'll dre them the lion,

0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Judd the Liberal and Walks the Worthless, and another one

0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:41.360
<v Speaker 1>titled All Delfa, her Brothers and the Ginney. Now, whether

0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.400
<v Speaker 1>these were love triangles or threesomes, either way they were

0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty scandalous. But of course, who doesn't like a good scandal,

0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And what juicier drama than a love affair between a

0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.080
<v Speaker 1>gin and a human, an affair the society had no

0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.600
<v Speaker 1>power to stop, in which one lover could appear and

0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.360
<v Speaker 1>disappear right out of their beloved is bed. Never mind

0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the romance of a powerful supernatural entity choosing a mere

0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.960
<v Speaker 1>mortal as a partner. What about the actual physical experience itself. Well,

0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.839
<v Speaker 1>you can understand the kinds of things people imagined and

0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:19.360
<v Speaker 1>whispered incredibly seductive gossip fodder, if you ask me, And

0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.360
<v Speaker 1>ever more so given that it was believed that when

0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a Jin male or female fell in love with a human,

0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.360
<v Speaker 1>they would follow that human forever, and once that human

0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.520
<v Speaker 1>accepted the love, the gin would impart some of their

0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.040
<v Speaker 1>secret Jin knowledge to them, like how to heal disease?

0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Having a lover who could teach you powers others didn't have. Well,

0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that's quite a French benefit. These cross species trists were

0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.600
<v Speaker 1>apparently such a fairly common occurrence at the time in

0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the region that religious and legal scholars had debates over

0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the rules governing such relationships, about, for example, whether the

0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:59.120
<v Speaker 1>marriages to the gin were actually legitimate, and most scholars,

0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way set up well not but there were

0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.679
<v Speaker 1>some exceptions, and whether the children produced from such marriages

0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:16.959
<v Speaker 1>were legitimate. Now I can't help but wonder if maybe

0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes single women had to claim marriage to a jinn

0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.920
<v Speaker 1>when they ended up inexplicably pregnant in a society that

0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.439
<v Speaker 1>would shun children outside of marriage, and charges of fornication

0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and adultery could lead to some very serious consequences. I

0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.080
<v Speaker 1>can see how it's very much a possibility that gin

0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.760
<v Speaker 1>marriage was well a cover, and some scholars have even

0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.440
<v Speaker 1>positive that maybe unions with supernatural entities were a vehicle

0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.839
<v Speaker 1>for female liberation and protection. The sexual liberation of not

0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.000
<v Speaker 1>having to explain a pregnancy, protection from social or religious

0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:56.120
<v Speaker 1>consequences of such a pregnancy, and from the charges of adultery,

0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.839
<v Speaker 1>and liberation from the societal pressures of marriage to a human.

0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.240
<v Speaker 1>In a year old story shows how this arrangement could

0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.520
<v Speaker 1>protect a woman. The story takes place in the time

0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Caliph Ali, one of the men given the

0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.320
<v Speaker 1>mantle of leadership of the entire Muslim community after the

0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:19.160
<v Speaker 1>profit of Islam Mohammed had passed away. One day, the

0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Caliph Ali noticed a child in the area acting strange,

0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and he asked who the child was. Someone pointed out

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the child's mother, so Ali asked her who is the father,

0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and she responded, I don't know. One day I was

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>pasturing sheep for my parents when something in the form

0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of a cloud mate it with me. I became pregnant

0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and gave birth to this child, and that pretty much

0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:50.040
<v Speaker 1>settled the matter. Whatever purpose human gin romances may serve,

0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt that there's just a general fascination with them.

0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And for the record, the lure of love between the

0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 1>supernatural and mortals is not just confined to the Arabian

0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Peninsula and the t else that come to us from

0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one thousand and one Nights. You find it across different

0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.520
<v Speaker 1>cultures and religions throughout history. Those of you who know

0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.320
<v Speaker 1>your Bible will remember that in Genesis, the benni Iloheim,

0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.720
<v Speaker 1>known as the sons of God were commonly understood to

0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be angels that descended to Earth and took up human wives.

0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.480
<v Speaker 1>In Celtic and Irish folklore, it's not only believed that

0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.000
<v Speaker 1>fairies have long hooked up with humans, it's not uncommon

0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.320
<v Speaker 1>even today for families from the region to claim some

0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:33.800
<v Speaker 1>fairy ancestry. And South Asia abounds with stories of love

0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and marriage between humans and the mythical half human half

0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.480
<v Speaker 1>snake creature called the noggin if male or neguini if female.

0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.800
<v Speaker 1>They're said to be irresistibly beautiful and incredibly wise, and

0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they often seek to mate with human royalty, resulting in attractive, brilliant,

0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.120
<v Speaker 1>noble offspring. There does seem to be a rather universal

0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>inclination towards accepting and even honoring supernatural romance, says and

0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.360
<v Speaker 1>why not. Human curiosity has no limit, and our attraction

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.840
<v Speaker 1>for the unknown, the forbidden, the powerful, for love and

0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.160
<v Speaker 1>desire and to be desired sometimes at any cost, is

0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.560
<v Speaker 1>very much a part of being human, which is maybe

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.360
<v Speaker 1>why I'll gnaw them so matter of factly compile those

0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>lists of human and gin lovers in his book The Catalog,

0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like It's any other fact of life. One last note

0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.400
<v Speaker 1>about the book. Interestingly, All Fairest maybe the first documented

0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.000
<v Speaker 1>reference ever in history to the book One thousand and

0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.480
<v Speaker 1>one Nights. Unfortunately, however, All Nah Them wasn't very impressed

0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.320
<v Speaker 1>with it. He notes in his catalog that it is

0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.400
<v Speaker 1>quote a truly coarse book without warmth in the telling.

0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Shahrazadi would disagree. In the world of Gin,

0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.440
<v Speaker 1>there are some who fall in love with a person

0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and person do that one love for years, even decades

0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime. But then there are those who are never

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.840
<v Speaker 1>quite satisfied with just one partner. Two female Gin in

0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:16.200
<v Speaker 1>North African traditions are particularly flirtatious and amorous, collecting lovers

0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.199
<v Speaker 1>as often as they like. Both of these Gin with

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the honorific title Lula, meaning lady. Their names are Lulla

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Mulicca and La La Mira. As her name, which means queen,

0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.920
<v Speaker 1>suggests Lulla Mulca is Jin royalty. She is the daughter

0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of a Gin king. Malika is not just regal and beautiful,

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>she's chic as well. She likes to be well dressed.

0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>She only wears garments embroidered with gold thread, and she

0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.080
<v Speaker 1>expects her followers those who seek her to likewise be

0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>dressed beautifully and smelling nice. She loves clothing so much,

0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in fact, that it said that she lives inside of wardrobes,

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>where no doubt she's planning her outfits. As you may

0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.280
<v Speaker 1>have guessed, Mulika is an egg exactly a fearsome gin.

0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.879
<v Speaker 1>She's sweet nature and fun loving, often tickling people and

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>leaving them with uncontrollable giggles. La La Molika is a lover,

0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.160
<v Speaker 1>not a fighter, you might say, and she's a lover

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.680
<v Speaker 1>particularly of married men. When a man gets her attention,

0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 1>she unseen to him, passes her hands in front of

0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.680
<v Speaker 1>his eyes, clouding them over, putting him in sort of

0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a trance, a trance in which he forgets everything he

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.719
<v Speaker 1>knows and loves, even where he lives, and suddenly is

0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Speaker 1>taken over for a deep longing from Mulika, who he

0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>hasn't even seen or heard, but his heart already knows.

0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Lalla Molicca will then whisper to him, I want to

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.679
<v Speaker 1>marry you. I want you to sleep with me. Because

0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.439
<v Speaker 1>these men are usually already married, well, they have to

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>negotiate a bit with Molcca. They have to get Lula

0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Molicca's permission to continue to have relations with their earthly

0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:59.080
<v Speaker 1>wives before they'll enter into the sacred supernatural marriage with Mulika.

0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's not exactly a deal breaker for her. After all,

0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.280
<v Speaker 1>she has only one use for the man. She's not

0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly trying to settle down and have a family here

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>as long as her husband's agree to her terms being

0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.400
<v Speaker 1>clean shaven and well groomed, perfumed and well dressed, and

0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of course fulfilling her needs in their marital bed. She

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't much care for what they do in their own time.

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.399
<v Speaker 1>But even more popular and more powerful than La la

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Mulica is La la Mira, a ginia that's both feared

0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and loved by those who believe in her. You could

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>say Mira is complicated. She's both giving and foreboding. She

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>can be playful and charming, but quickly loses her temper,

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and unlike Mulca, she's jealous and possessive of her lovers.

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Mira too has a fancy for married men, but when

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 1>she wants a man, she will not share him. She

0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.600
<v Speaker 1>will come to him in his dreams. And I don't

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>mean just as a vision. She will actually visit a

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>man as he sleeps and enter his dream ames, making

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>those dreams well not exactly suitable for children. The dreams

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>will get more frequent and intense, even to the point

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of becoming debilitating for the object of her affection, rendering

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>him unable to sleep and unable to function when he's awake.

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Because when he's awake she expects him to basically spend

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>his time worshiping her. But if she gets bored with

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>her lover, he'll know because the dreams will get less frequent,

0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and eventually they will end all together. Now, as far

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 1>as Mara is concerned, her lovers should be honored that

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.959
<v Speaker 1>she's even interested in them, and they should be completely

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 1>and utterly fulfilled by her and her alone. That's not

0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 1>to say that she will never share a lover. She

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>has been known to negotiate terms, set up a schedule

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.199
<v Speaker 1>if you will, but she doesn't like it, and if

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.439
<v Speaker 1>you cross her or betray her, you will pay the price.

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>La La Mira attacks suddenly and viciously, leaving her victims

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>paralyzed or possess, sing them and leading them into hysterics

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and madness. It's rather interesting that both Lalla Molica and

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Lalla Mira prefer married men over single men, and you

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>can't help but wonder about that, especially because it's said

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that these gins sometimes appear to their lovers disguised as

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>women they already know. Seems pretty convenient if you ask

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>me a ready excuse for infidelity. After all, how can

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you blame the poor married man for being forced into

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 1>an affair with the gin. It's easier and less dangerous

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to just give the gin what she wants instead of

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 1>denying her right, even if she happens to look just

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>like the lady from down the street. Not all flings

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>with the gin are long term. Brief sexual encounters are

0:21:55.560 --> 0:22:00.200
<v Speaker 1>reported commonly, even going back centuries. The sixth century pre

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Islamic Arab poet Babbitt Ibn Jabber lived a very colorful life.

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>While he was known for his poetry about desert life,

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>he lived with a band of bandits that raided local tribes,

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and then they hid in the hills and mountains, evading capture.

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Out there, one night in the wilderness, he found himself

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>face to face with a female gin. Now it's unclear

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened next between the two, but Jabbar ended

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>up writing a poem about the meeting, called How I

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Met the Ghoul I lay upon her through the night,

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that in the morning I might see what had come

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to me. Behold two eyes and a hideous head like

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the head of a cat, split tongued legs like a

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.639
<v Speaker 1>deformed fetus, the back of a dog, clothes of haircloth

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>or worn out skins. Now, some have interpreted the poem

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to mean that he killed the gin and then he

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.239
<v Speaker 1>just kind of laid on top of her all night

0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>so he could take the Jin's body back to his

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>camp and showed the others. But others interpret the poem

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to mean that Jabbar made love to the ghoul, who

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>then revealed her true hideous form, and so he killed her.

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go with the second interpretation because, well,

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>it just makes more sense. And that's because there are

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>an entire class of Gin, both male and female, who

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>draw their energy from sexual relations with humans. You've probably

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>heard of them too, the succubus a female entity, and

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>an incubus a male entity. I didn't realize these creatures

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>are gin. Oh, but they are very low le gin,

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 1>on the very bottom of the totem pole of gin.

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But Jin, nonetheless, and both the succubus and incubus are

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.719
<v Speaker 1>after only one thing sexual gratification, and both of them

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>tend to sexually assault their victims as they sleep without

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:55.360
<v Speaker 1>warning and certainly without consent, a terrifying and you could

0:23:55.400 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>say paralyzing experience. The phenomena of being sexually attacked during

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>sleep is so common. In two thousand seventeen, the University

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of Leiden in the Netherlands conducted a meta study titled

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Prevalence Rates of the Incubus Phenomena a Systematic Review and

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>meta Analysis. The team of researchers reviewed thirteen existing studies

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that took a look at the sleep experiences of eight

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>people from across the globe, including Canada, the United States, China, Japan, Italy,

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and Mexico. They found that nearly eleven percent of the

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>general global population has at one point in their life

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>experienced something that could be described as an incubus or

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>succubus encounter, and of course this is not just a

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>contemporary phenomena. The researchers noted that the experience of being

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulted while asleep has been documented all the way

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>back to antiquity, and it seems to occur in every

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>single population group and every culture in every nation, in

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>every time in history. Each culture, however, interpreted the phenomena

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in their own cultural context. In Newfoundland they called it

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the Old Hag. In Japan, it's the cannashibari. In Brazil,

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>these creatures are called the piece of di era. But

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>no matter what people call it or how the creature

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is viewed literally and otherwise, the actual experience, regardless of

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the culture or historical context, was almost exactly the same.

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And here is how the study describes it. The incubus

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>phenomena is a paroximal sleep related disorder characterized by feeling

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of pressure on the chest while the sleeping individual has

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a sensation of being awake. Attacks are typically accompanied by

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis and compound hallucinations involving a creature sitting or

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>lying on the thorax, exerting pressure, and carrying out aggressive

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and or sexual acts. The creature may appear in the

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>shape of a human, animal or metaphysical being, or be

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of an indeterminate nature. Attacks may occasionally commands with a scream,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>whereas for the remainder of the time, persons experiencing an

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>attack tend to be mute, although they may be able

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to move their eyes. A tonia of astrit muscles prevents

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>them from making any other movements. Attacks are usually accompanied

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>by the feeling of a sensed presence and by vegetative

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 1>symptoms such as a cold, sweat, hypertension, of feeling of suffocation,

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes also sexual arousal. The duration tends to be

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>in the order of seconds to minutes, culminating and a

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>feeling of severe dread and the conviction that one is

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>about to die. Around that time, the sleep paralysis tends

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to come to an abrupt ending, and the hallucinated creature

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 1>appears to fall or glide from the bed, leaving its

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>victim behind in a state of anxiety and hyper arousal,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>being unable to go back to sleep out of fear

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for repetition. The researchers found that many participants dismissed the

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>experience as a nightmare, but for some, repeated encounters led

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to some very other real problems when awake, like off

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the chart's anxiety, anxiety from an increasing fear of going

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, and the terror of feeling like you might

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>actually die. They also found that while there wasn't data

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>connecting repeated attacks to sudden unexpected death syndrome, in which

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>people who are otherwise healthy and fine die in their sleep, well,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it was possible. It's important to understand that the framework

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of this study, and indeed most studies on the incubus

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>or succubus experience, is within the field of sleep paralysis itself,

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>which doctors describe as a perfectly explainable and common sleep disorder,

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and the terrifying creature that so many have described being

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>assaulted by during sleep paralysis. It's merely a hallucination, said

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the experts. The sleep demon, they say, is what some

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>people see when they're suddenly jolted awake in the middle

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of the rem sleep cycle. Their brain still stuck in

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>dreams or nightmares in this case, that are now being

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>projected into the dark room around you. Your brain, as

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it does when you sleep, has shut off the signals

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to your body that would ordinarily cause it to move, walk, run, turnover,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>so you're paralyzed, and as you're still in rem sleep

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that segment of our sleep patterns in which we dream,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing remnants of a dream projected onto the reality

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>around you. That says, science is what's really happening. And look,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe in science. I believe in climate change and evolution,

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in mitigating pandemics through social distancing and wearing masks. But

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>there is a part of me that wonders, why are

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>all these experiences so exactingly similar and why are they

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>always menacing? I mean, we all also have highly pleasant dreams.

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we wake up paralyzed it in a sunny

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>valley of mountains made of chocolate and gems flying through

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the air, surrounded by unicorns? Or why don't we wake

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>up in the middle of a dream with a sexual

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>encounter with someone that you might actually want to have

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>one with. Why is it always a dark, ominous, horrifying

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>creature pressing down in your chest, cutting off your breath,

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to kill you. I don't know, and a scientific

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>explanation only works to a certain extent for me. You

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>might be thinking, well, look, what about the fact that

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>people in different parts of the world see the creature differently.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't that mean that what they're seeing is indeed a

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>project of their own imagination? Well? Maybe, or maybe the

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>gin who can transform into anything, transform themselves into something

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that can be understood by their victim, that resonates within

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>their cultural context. For those who have lived through these attacks, however,

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>science may choose to understand them. They are all too real.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, Canadian journalist Peter Duffy wrote

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>about his first such encounter. I went to bed. It

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>was midnight, late for me, and that's when it happened.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I became aware of a strange presence in the bedroom,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>something emitting waves of malevolence. And then I saw it.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Something was rearing over me. I don't know how or why,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but instinctively I knew it was a demon of some kind.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I recoiled in horror, trying to make myself small, unable

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to tear my eyes away. There was no face. This

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>thing had a human form, but it was swathed in

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a black cowl like covering, like some kind of monk.

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And then it was on top of me, soundless and unstoppable,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>smothering me, assaulting me. There's no delicate way to put this.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I was vividly aware of this creature violating me. I yelled,

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>but nothing came from my lips. My struggles were in

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>slow motion. I was helpless, and then as suddenly as

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it appeared, the creature was gone. Duffy was so distraught

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>by the attack that he reached out to various people

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to try and understand it a psychic, a philosophy professor,

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a priest, and mostly the response he got was that

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a stress induced phenomena dig deeper into your life.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>He was told to figure out what's really bothering you,

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But Duffy wasn't so sure. He wrote, the incident was

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>so terrifying it haunts me still even now, three weeks later.

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>The memory of that dream makes me go cold. If

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>it actually was a dream, I shake my head, still

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>not convinced what happened to me was actually a dream.

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>While the succubus and incubus experiences are terrifying for a

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>number of reasons, the fact that they are violations or

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like violations, are probably the most distressing aspect. There's

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>no asking for or giving consent in these scenarios, but

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean there aren't people who actively seek out

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sexual relationships with the gin. In the fourteenth century, a

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Moroccan magician by the name of Muhammad al Timinsani wrote

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>a volume with the intriguing title Sons of Lights and

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Treasures of Secrets. In it, he gave readers the secret

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>spell to cast if you wanted to have sex with

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the daughter of the White King of the Jin. Pretty straightforward. Actually.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>First you have to isolate yourself alone in the desert,

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>where you must fast for twelve days while continuously chanting incantations.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>After twelve days, a dragon will appear, but you have

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to be fastidious, not get frightened, and maintain your composure.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're successful in ignoring the beast, the Jin Princess

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>will appear. She's pale, decked out in gems and jewels

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and walks with an enticing sway. She can be yours,

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>but of course it comes with a ice. If you

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>sleep with the Gin Princess, you might experience things that

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you can never imagine. But the price that you pay

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is this, you'll become impotent to all the real women

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.959
<v Speaker 1>in the real world. And that's quite the devil's bargain,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you might say. Thanks for joining us this week. Next

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>week we'll be back to take you another step into

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the world of the Hidden Gin. Until then, remember we

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>are not alone. If you loved today's episode, I'm gonna

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you a big favor. Please stop my iTunes and

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>leave me a rating and a review, even if it's

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>just one short sentence. Not only is that how other

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>listeners discover the podcast, but it's also what keeps the

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>podcast going. And for every thousand reviews that I get

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:57.239
<v Speaker 1>on iTunes, I'll release another Patreon episode absolutely free. That's right,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>We're on Patreon, so if you're a Gin enthusiast, check

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>out the Companion Patreon series at patreon dot com slash

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Hidden Jin. Again, that's patreon dot com slash Hidden Gin

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and remember Jin is spelled d j I n N.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 1>That's where you're gonna find an amazing series of interviews

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>between me, scholars, experts, aretas, historians, and every day lay

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>people who have had extraordinary experiences with Jin and everybody

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>can check out the first episode absolutely free. It's me

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and my husband sharing our gen stories and it was

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And if you have any Gin stories, well,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you. Email me at the

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Hidden Gin at gmail dot com. Once again, it's the

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Hidden Gin Gin with a D at gmail dot com

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and you might just hear back from me, or you

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>might hear your story on the show. And finally, don't

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>forget to follow us on social media. We're on Facebook, Twitter,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and Instagram with the handle the Hidden Gin. There you

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>can tweet, post, insta d m me. I'd love to

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 1>hear from all of you, and believe me, I read

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>every single message. The Hidden Gin is a production of

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>The podcast is written and hosted by Robbiah Chaudry and

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>produced by Miranda Hawkins and Trevor Young, with executive producers

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. Music for the

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>show was provided by smith Sony and Folkways Recordings. Our

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>theme song was created by Patrick Cortez. For more podcasts

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>from I Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.