WEBVTT - Space Weather - What's That?!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles w Chuck, Brian over there, and Jerry's not here.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're going to make it through somehow, uh, in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Stuff You Should Know. Um, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to call this one Chuck the Icarus Edition, because we

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<v Speaker 1>made it through the Sun Podcast just hanging on by

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<v Speaker 1>our fingernails before and through just an astounding act of hubris.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do another Sun related episode. Yeah. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot of this stuff in the Sun one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we did, but I don't think we went anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near into this kind of detail. So I'm feeling okay

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<v Speaker 1>about redoing this, doing something that that's like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a re redo a little bit. Okay, are you feeling okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling great. Oh good, I'm glad to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would say I'm feeling great,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's good that you are at least so. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Sun, believe it or not, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a specific thing on the Sun called

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<v Speaker 1>solar flares, which you may have heard of, but you

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<v Speaker 1>may not know much about unless apparently you've already listened

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<v Speaker 1>to our Sun episode. But um, we'll talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about solar flawers. But one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is extraordinarily interesting about solar flowers is

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<v Speaker 1>they belong to a larger category called space weather. And

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<v Speaker 1>I am just as jazz as can be about the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of space weather, aren't you? Uh not as jazz

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<v Speaker 1>as you, I don't think, but I do think this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is pretty neat stuff, and I'm glad we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting a chance to make it more clear than

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<v Speaker 1>we did before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a good that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point. I'm sure we talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's probably extremely confusing. So yeah, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>clear all that up. So space weather, especially stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the Sun, come mostly from the surface or

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere of the Sun, which is extraordinarily active. It's

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily hot, so hot, chuck. Um that the surface of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun is made of plasma, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people consider the fourth state of matter. It's like a gas,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a special kind of gas that um where

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<v Speaker 1>the particles are as jazzed about being alive as I

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<v Speaker 1>am about the idea of space weather. That's right. They're

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<v Speaker 1>supercharged and when they are moving around, they create something

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<v Speaker 1>called metic magnetic fields. Not the band, the thing, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it is a great band name and a great band. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are gonna you know, magnetic fields have their

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<v Speaker 1>own effect on all these particles and what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah. So the the energetic electrons that have

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<v Speaker 1>been stripped from the atoms, creating electrons and ions which

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<v Speaker 1>have a charge, they create magnetic fields, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields they create have an effect on them, um

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<v Speaker 1>so that they tend to follow these magnetic field lines.

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<v Speaker 1>But the the stuff is so energetic and so hot

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<v Speaker 1>that the magnetic fields that develop aren't like this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of orderly lines that keep their distance, you know, nice

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<v Speaker 1>and tidy like you imagine like a magnetic field to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Like these things are like roiling, curling, twisting. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a big orgy of magnetism up there. That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>way to put it. That's it. I had no choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to say it like that. Yeah, and then, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this stuff is going on. It's called solar activity,

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<v Speaker 1>and it depends on when you're observing the Sun, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more or less active. There's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a cycle, it's called the solar cycle that happens about

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<v Speaker 1>every eleven years when the magnetic north and south pole switch.

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<v Speaker 1>And within that cycle, UM, there's something called a solar maximum,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the period kind of where the biggest show

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<v Speaker 1>is going on. Yeah, there's also a solar minimum, but

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<v Speaker 1>the solar maximum is UM. We're in solar cycle twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five apparently, and the solar maximum is coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand. That's very appropriately UM. And so as

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<v Speaker 1>we're reaching the solar maximum, there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more of what people call sun spots. By people, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean astronomers, of course, um. And sun spots are these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of darkish areas on the surface of the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be little, tiny dots, they can be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of big, but they look really really small and they

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<v Speaker 1>look dark. UM. And the reason they look dark is

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<v Speaker 1>because they're relatively cool compared to the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>surface that's around them. Um. But even still, they're super

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<v Speaker 1>duper hot and they're still pretty bright comparatively speaking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a sun spot is about degrees fahrenheit. Because we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the sun so cool is a relative term here. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as bright goes, it's about that's about

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<v Speaker 1>ten times as bright as a full moon. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you go out at night in a full moon and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of feels like a little cool daylight, a

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<v Speaker 1>sun spot is about ten times brighter than that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you shouldn't go looking at these things. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good thing to say. Is like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a lot of stuff that's gonna make you

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<v Speaker 1>want to look at the sun. Don't do it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>go online and look at pictures of this stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the sun or videos even we have videos thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the good people at NASA, but um, the sun spots,

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<v Speaker 1>So it really just goes to show you how hot

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<v Speaker 1>and bright the surface of the Sun is. That these

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<v Speaker 1>things seem cool and dark by comparisons. And yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are really really big, So the width of them

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<v Speaker 1>can get to be up to thirty thous miles across,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about the width of Neptune, which is huge,

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<v Speaker 1>about four times the width of Earth. Um, and still

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<v Speaker 1>they look super dinky compared to the Sun. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that these things are cooler, chuck, is because they're

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<v Speaker 1>spots of magnetism that are so strong that they keep

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<v Speaker 1>the heat inside the Sun from poking out right there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how strong the magnetic energy is in these areas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's right. And because they're magnets, they form in

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<v Speaker 1>little pairs like little buddies, and they appear on the

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<v Speaker 1>surface of the Sun. And what we're actually looking at

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<v Speaker 1>if you can like go to uh NASA or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, and see a picture of a sun spot,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking at is sort of like the two

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<v Speaker 1>ends of um. If you think about these magnetic lines there,

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<v Speaker 1>these magnetism it's like a filament like a rope. Just

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<v Speaker 1>picture them twisted up basically running beneath the sun surface.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are some really really cool pictures and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one end of this sun spot is positive,

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<v Speaker 1>the other end is negative, and it's they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>act like rings of a tree a little bit. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as astronomers can like observe these things. The first

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<v Speaker 1>sun spots of each cycle are in the midd latitudes

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<v Speaker 1>and then they start moving around during the cycle, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can kind of see where you are in the

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<v Speaker 1>solar cycle by where and how many of these sun

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<v Speaker 1>spots there are. Yeah, so the more the closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the solar maximum you are, the more sun spots they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, and the closer they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>to the equator. So they tell a lot about where

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<v Speaker 1>where the Sun is in its solar cycle. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is when these magnetic field lines twists and

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<v Speaker 1>and curve and turn, um, they actually can interact with

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<v Speaker 1>other magnetic field lines. And when that happens, when they cross,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the proton streams crossing in Ghostbusters. When

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<v Speaker 1>that happens, UM, something called the solar flare, uh happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's an event on the Sun, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is such a huge, magnificently energetic event that it actually

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<v Speaker 1>can affect Earth things on Earth because it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>massive in such a huge release and sudden release of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a Ghostbusters ref penciled end later on if

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that. Oh, I can't wait to it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, when we both have to we have

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<v Speaker 1>one each. Um, Yeah, it has. And it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while since we listed dates by the years before since

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<v Speaker 1>Ghostbusters came in. Mind has a data attached to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll just have to wait. I can't wait. What

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<v Speaker 1>a great episode this is shaping out to be. So

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<v Speaker 1>these explosions, the magnetic fields are driving these explosions. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you you know, if you're lay people like us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you can either look at this is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of simple to look at on its surface, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to get into it, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>complex and not easily understood. But the simple answer is,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about magnetic fields, is that these adjacent

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<v Speaker 1>fields are pointing in opposite directions and they basically wipe

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<v Speaker 1>each other out and that releases all this magnetic energy

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<v Speaker 1>and all that heat, uh, kind of everywhere that surrounds it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just goes spew spew, spew energy heat shooting at

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<v Speaker 1>you from the sun. Right, So people have figured this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally that has to do with, like um, the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of magnetism interacting with one another and annihilating one another.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a big mystery attached to this, or there

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<v Speaker 1>there was for many many years, and that is that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we understand magnetic annihilation. But to this point, we

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<v Speaker 1>thought it took about ten thousand years for two opposite

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields to annihilate one another. Well, we're talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>these solar flares. They they annihilate one another and release

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<v Speaker 1>all this energy in a matter of minutes, maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>hour sometimes, So that doesn't quite job. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>back in the fifties some scientists started proposing a type

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<v Speaker 1>of magnetic energy released called magnetic reconnection. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>where magnetic field lines are so um twisty, turney writhey

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<v Speaker 1>and energetic that they can actually rip a field line

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<v Speaker 1>or like a magnetic field line can rip a part

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<v Speaker 1>and then reconnect with some neighbors. When that happens, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called magnetic reconnection. And they think that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of energetic release that would account for a solar flare. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this, you know, this can cause all kinds of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>um for things in space and for people on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>even which we'll get to that stuff in more detail

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. But the point is these things

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<v Speaker 1>are super hot. Uh. They burst out to the Sun's corona, which,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember from our Sun Up episode, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>outermost atmosphere of the Sun. Rarefied gas is all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place out there, and it has I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is super super hot stuff. Like normally the temperature and

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<v Speaker 1>the corona is about you know, a few million degrees kelvin,

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<v Speaker 1>but inside that flare, we're talking ten to twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>degrees kelvin. And we always like to uh think of

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<v Speaker 1>things in terms of either big max or hydrogen bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this case, it's got to be hydrogen bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of energy released during a solar flare is

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<v Speaker 1>about um it's millions of one hundred ton hydrogen bombs

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<v Speaker 1>all at once. Yeah, all at once. That's a really

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really important point too, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a real schmo for not having calculated that

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<v Speaker 1>in big bags calories. I know you could do calories, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's the calorie of a solar flare. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look and I feel like a jackass for

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<v Speaker 1>not having looked. Well, they go down easy, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that they do. So they're big, huge releases of energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're they're releases of radiation. They release um radiation

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<v Speaker 1>across the electromagnetic spectrum and that includes the visible light spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>So these things just turned into these enormously bright flares,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where the name comes from. And we've figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how to classify, and there's a classifying system for

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<v Speaker 1>solar flares. It's a lot like the Richter scale UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there's class A, B, C, M, and X.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really like the Richter scale. What's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Richter scale is that each of those classes UH is

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<v Speaker 1>ten times more powerful than the previous class. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>like an X is the highest, that is ten times

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<v Speaker 1>ten times in M, a hundred times of C. And

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<v Speaker 1>then once you get to X, uh. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't go Y and Z, they just said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>stick with X and then let's cool. Sure, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds totally cool, and then let's start attaching numbers to

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<v Speaker 1>them so you can have you know, X, one, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four and so on. Yeah, and so you know, each

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<v Speaker 1>each of those letter grades has a one through nine scale,

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<v Speaker 1>but X is so huge the excess scale goes beyond nine.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the biggest, the biggest one that they've

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<v Speaker 1>ever caught so far, UM that's ever been recorded. UH

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<v Speaker 1>burned out the set answers that were recording it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the censors UM were overloaded at X eight And they

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<v Speaker 1>did some calculations after the fact and they figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that they may have been an X forty five flare.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on November four, two thousand three. Yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. This was it was something called the

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween Storms of two thousand three, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun way. Uh, you know, it happened because it

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<v Speaker 1>was in October and near Halloween. So while the astronomers

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<v Speaker 1>got excited. And this one was a little bit weird

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<v Speaker 1>because although it was near the solar maximum, it was

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<v Speaker 1>two to three years after the peak, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>they said, NASA said it's generally a quiet period, so

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<v Speaker 1>they got really really excited. There were seventeen major flares

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<v Speaker 1>in that uh Halloween storm, and it was that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that is really going to get the white coats pretty

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<v Speaker 1>charged up. It totally is I mean an X forty

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<v Speaker 1>five that's just funding And I did a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of of derivative calculation. Technically it would be a double

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<v Speaker 1>A five A five, you know. I saw weird different

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<v Speaker 1>numbers too, though. I saw that the center cut out

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen and the estimate was X. Huh. It's really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's NASSY even had conflicting information. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>point this out that you just set us up for

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<v Speaker 1>a c o A that I wanted to include. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's two things. Um, there's a lot of disagreement on

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what a solar flare is and the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>that and coronal mass ejections, which we'll talk about in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And it's not necessarily a disagreement in astronomy, um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a disagreement among people who report on stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>astronomy and don't fully understand what they're talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>we ran into that quite a bit. So if we

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<v Speaker 1>get something mixed up, please forgive us. And then secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about some of these incredible um events

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<v Speaker 1>in physics terms, people who are in the field of

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<v Speaker 1>physics understand what they're talking about to one another, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have a great reputation of not figuring out how

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<v Speaker 1>to explain it to the rest of us, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll put it in different terms. And so when you're

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<v Speaker 1>researching this stuff, you're like, are you is this describing

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<v Speaker 1>a different thing than this over here or is it

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<v Speaker 1>just two different people describing the same thing two different

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<v Speaker 1>ways because they're not describing it in the true physics

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<v Speaker 1>way because I wouldn't understand. So we ran into that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot too, did you. Yeah, And it's frustrating to

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<v Speaker 1>literally see two different things both from NASA dot gov

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<v Speaker 1>on two different pages. But you know, who are we

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<v Speaker 1>too to call out NASA? I think we just did.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call out Space Force, sure. But the point is this,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that really underscores the fact that our understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the dynamics on the Sun are still really early

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<v Speaker 1>and premature, um, and we're still figuring a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out, including classifying the differences between solar flares and

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<v Speaker 1>coronal mass ejections. Yeah, and the light show and the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fund that the astronomers had in the

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween storms of two thousand three was immense, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was x X forty partied either way, they

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<v Speaker 1>did they surely did check. They had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of peach snops and went to tasted some half a

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<v Speaker 1>shot of brandy and then went to bed. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Prove us wrong, nerds, prove us wrong. I say, we

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<v Speaker 1>take a break and then come back and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>those coronal mass ejections that I teased. Okay, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back, everybody, m all right. So I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's difficult sometimes to discern the difference between a

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<v Speaker 1>solar flare, which is a huge burst of radiation across

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<v Speaker 1>the electromagnetic spectrum um all at once, which, by the way,

0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it takes just a matter of minutes eight minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>be exact to reach Earth because we're talking about carriers

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<v Speaker 1>of the electromagnetic force, which can travel at the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light. So it's where I guess, eight minutes, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the speed of light from the Sun, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Coronal mass ejections are something different. Even though they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be associated with solar flares in a lot of cases,

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<v Speaker 1>they also seem to be able to kind of stand

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<v Speaker 1>on their own too. Either way, they're impressive in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking in terms of um visual excitement, like

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<v Speaker 1>a solar mass I'm sorry, a coronal mass ejection is

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<v Speaker 1>like a full on Grateful Dead concert, whereas a solar

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<v Speaker 1>flair is like when John Mayer played with members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Grateful Dead. Oh that's mean I was gonna say

0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it was. It's just an Instagram video lesson of John

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor teaching you some Grateful Dead lick because you know well,

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.760
<v Speaker 1>but sol solar flares are more magnificent than that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so man, that's mean. Sorry, Sorry, John Mayor. If you're listening.

0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sorry, Josh. Sorry. He uh he's a nice guy,

0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:41.639
<v Speaker 1>he apparently, uh has I've seen some stuff like of

0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.680
<v Speaker 1>him teaching like people how to play Grateful Dead guitar

0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff and it's really really hard what he's doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>my hats off, right, So with man, I feel weird.

0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 1>It just apologized to John Mayer on the stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know ast about solar flares. You didn't see that coming. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't in my notes. So with coronal mass ejections

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<v Speaker 1>at least these these are not necessarily just bursts of

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<v Speaker 1>um of radiation like a solar flare is these they

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<v Speaker 1>do have some radiation attached, but they're big thing is

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<v Speaker 1>um particles, highly charged, super energetic particles that it shoots

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<v Speaker 1>like buckshot towards the Earth at incredible speeds. I mean,

0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they get they get accelerated very close to the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light, not the speed of light, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference between the speed of light and close to

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. So it takes about three or

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<v Speaker 1>four days usually for stuff um that's shot out by

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<v Speaker 1>a coronal mass ejection to reach Earth. But when these

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<v Speaker 1>things go off on the Sun, there like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're rather impressive. Yeah, like if you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this stuff and uh with a telescope and high

0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>powered telescope that is I don't I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>could well could you see any of this stuff anything

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<v Speaker 1>you have at home? You know, I've got a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good telescope, but it's for nighttime viewing only. So with

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<v Speaker 1>the UM, I think you can see coronal mass ejections.

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<v Speaker 1>I think solar flares. You're you're best with a radio

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<v Speaker 1>telescope or X ray telescope, but the X ray telescope

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be outside of Earth's magnetosphere. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a telescope, yeah, telescope. It's not a radio telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no no, no, I just we've never talked, we've never

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<v Speaker 1>scoped it up in conversation, and I would be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't, but I'm glad to know you do.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have one. Yea so flares, Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking through an X ray or a radio telescope

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<v Speaker 1>at a solar flare, it'll look cool, It'll look like

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<v Speaker 1>a flash of light. But those coronal mass ejections are

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<v Speaker 1>really impressive, big eruptions. Uh, the height can be many

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<v Speaker 1>times the size of the Earth, shooting out into space,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, and they're they're kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>belch from the Sun that actually releases part of the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a bubble of plasma that's just an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>um often billions and billions of tons uh in mass,

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<v Speaker 1>just coming right at the Earth, full of these incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>charged particles UM. And they're so big, so massive, and

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the plasma that they're made of is so energetic that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually have their own magnetic fields like the sawn

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<v Speaker 1>or the Earth UM. So when they finally do come

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with the planet, our planet UM, weird things

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>start to happen because it's own magnetic field and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the charged particles within the plasma contact our own

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<v Speaker 1>magnetosphere and then also our atmosphere UM, which is almost

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<v Speaker 1>designed to UM to deter the worst effects of those

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<v Speaker 1>things coming at us from the Sun. Yeah, so our magnetosphere,

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that's our little first layer of protection. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>like UM, although I was about to say like Wakonda's

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>protective shield, that may be more like the ionosphere. But

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the magnetosphere is that first protect and and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of brush away as many of those charge particles,

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>these protons that are shooting out as possible, and because

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<v Speaker 1>of solar wind though, uh, it's it's it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>shape to it. The magnetosphere has like a sort of

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a compressed side that faces the Sun. It's got a

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>little dip near the poles of the Earth where some

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>really magnificent stuff is going to take place, as we'll

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 1>see in a minute. And then it's got this tail

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.119
<v Speaker 1>end that flows out from the back, and the Earth's

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field is going to block these particles from most

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<v Speaker 1>of the surface. The Sun's the solar wind is going

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to push them along toward that tail and then that

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<v Speaker 1>dip at the poles is where you're gonna see these

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<v Speaker 1>really brilliant auroras. Yes, but the magnetism, the magnetic energy

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>from the coronal mass ejection can be so energetic that

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<v Speaker 1>it can actually push on the sun side, the day

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>side of the Earth's magnetosphere it's closest to the Sun,

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>push on it so much that it actually contorts the

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<v Speaker 1>Night's the tail end that trails off into space and

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<v Speaker 1>presses it together so that when it comes together the

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Earth's own magnetosphere um becomes energetic and quivery and then

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<v Speaker 1>when it goes back to its normal energy state, it

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<v Speaker 1>releases a bunch of energy in the form of light.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that happens, the auroras that tend to congregated

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<v Speaker 1>the polls can actually show up all over the planet basically,

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<v Speaker 1>even very close to the equator. Yeah, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about some of the bigger ones and

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the surprising places they showed up. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a magnetosphere. I mentioned the ionosphere. That's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of um, I guess the secondary protection that is another

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>high layer of the Earth's atmosphere, and that's going to

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>stop all the radiation because it's giving out a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of radiation. And if the ionosphere wasn't doing his

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>job and it wasn't there, we would be in big,

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>big trouble. Oh yeah, we we'd be toast. I mean, like,

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>these are incredibly energetic, fast traveling particles close to the

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>speed of light um and they would just shoot right

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>through the tissue in our our bodies, uh and do

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of damage because they would probably knock all

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>sorts of electrons off of our atoms that make up

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>our cells and our tissue and um, we would either

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>develop cancer of the long term or just drop dead

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>from a big enough dose of the stuff. So thank

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 1>goodness for the ionosphere. I mean, it saves us like

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>John Mayor saved the grateful dead. Just in case he's

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>still listening. There's like a percentage of our audience it's like, yeah, man, preach,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and there's a percentage that was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to turn this off. And then I'd say

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the vast majority are like American exactly, the guy that

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>dated Jen Aniston probably. Um. So you've got the magnanosphere,

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you got the ionosphere, and for the most part, these

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>things are capable of absorbing the worst of the on

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>belches and flare ups and everything, um, under normal circumstances.

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But even even when it is protecting life on Earth

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like us animals and the plants and the plankton and

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, um, the whales, that kind of stuff life

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>here on Earth. Um, there are things that we humans

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>have developed that can be affected by these this space weather,

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>by these geomagnetic storms. Yeah, I guess should we talk

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>about the the Carrington event one of the most exciting events.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was pretty exciting. Yes, it's pretty good. So, uh,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this is eighteen fifty nine. Um, like this kind of

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>thing now is pretty magnificent, But I imagine eighteen fifty

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>nine astronomers were just really really knocked out by something

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like this. They said, zeus is beer exactly. Uh. This

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>is sort of late summer August September and a big

0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>solar storm they later called the Carrington event became him

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<v Speaker 1>the strongest one on record. And this is named for

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Richard Carrington. He was an astronomer, one

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 1>of England's best at the time, and he was in

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>his observatory and he was hanging out and it was

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a sunny day and he was working with his telescope

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's projecting this image of the sun on a

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<v Speaker 1>screen and drawing. He there were cameras at the time,

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>but I guess the most I don't know, accurate or

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>efficient way to capture what he saw was to draw

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that he's observing, and that's what he was

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>doing on September one. Yeah, and while he was drawing

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the stuff, um, he saw that some of these sun

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>spots that he was he was um mapping, I guess,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>started to grow really really bright and he got really

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>excited because he'd been doing this for a while and

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't something he'd seen before. So he jumped up

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and he ran to get a friend who was going

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to witness this mistake. Yeah, he said. He was gone

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for a minute tops. When he came back, he found

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that these brilliant flashes of light had already started to

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like weakend. Can you imagine. He was a little bummed

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>about this, but he and he and his buddy still

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 1>watched these flares like go, you know, get lower and

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>lower and then turn into pinpoints and then vanish. Um.

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So what he saw he was the first person to

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>record a solar flare. No one had ever seen anything

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>like it before. And that was at eleven three am.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>It was, it was done, It finished, um and then nothing.

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 1>That was it until the wee hours of the morning,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>later that night, the morning of the next day, later

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that night, which I always just find endlessly confusing. What

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that it took that long? No that it's the next

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>that night is the next morning. For some reason, it

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>just breaks my brain every time. I realized how sad

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that is to admit. Yeah, so in the wee hours,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the skies put on a light show all over the

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>earth redan purple auroras, very brilliant, very exciting newspapers. You

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>could like read the newspaper at night. They saw this

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the Hawaii El Salvador and the Bahamas. They

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>saw the auroras in the boat that nuts. That is nuts. Uh.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>There were towns neighboring towns that thought the that like

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Shelbyville was on fire, Springfield thought Shelby Bill was on fire,

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. There were birds chirping, they thought because

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they thought it was dawn. Uh. There was a brick

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 1>mason crew in South Carolina that got up in you know,

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>they were like two beers in going to work when

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they realized that, hey, it's the middle of the night.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>And they looked at each other and said, man, this

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>is a hundred and twenty five years before Ghostbusters. Oh nice,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>very nice. Check. Yeah, well it seemed canned in because

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I prem, yeah, well i'll tell you what, how about this.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a huge hearty surprise laugh. And

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I hinted out the conversation before all right ready, And

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they all looked at each other, two beers in, and

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>said Ghostbusters won't even come out for another hundred twenty

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>five years. What. Oh my god, I did not see

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that coming. Dude, how long has it been since we

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about I don't know. That's perfect and we'll just

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>fix that all on editing. That's great, thanks, Chuck. I

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>need a I need a couple of beers myself after them.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So one of the other things, um, that really went

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>hey wire was the telegraph system, right, because this is

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty nine, and the telegraphs were at the they

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>were the leading edge, not bleeding edge. He's taught me

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that that's totally wrong, the leading edge of technology of

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>telecommunications at the time, UM. And these telegraph lines depended

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>on currents being sent over wires, UM. And so those

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>wires were overloaded by this geomagnetic storm so much so

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that sparks were shooting off of the telegraphs. UM. Operators

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>were getting shocked and burned. The telegraph paper was catching

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>on fire when was nearby. It was very much like

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a movie. All this is happening all over the world

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. It's just crazy. It's like very

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>very early morning of the next day after the Carrington event, right.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that got me was, um,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>they they unplugged the batteries to these things, the telegraphs,

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and they found that the wires were still so energetic

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>with electricity from the geomagnetic storm that they could still

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>send telegraphs even though they had no power of their own.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>They were they were able to send telegrams over the

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>telegraph line even within it's disconnected from the batteries. That's

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the fact of the show to me. Oh that's amazing.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Let me that. I mean, they must have thought it

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was haunted or something. I think, think like, sure, the

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>plug is unplugged and it's still working. They're like Zeus's

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>beard is crazy. There's another thing to um. Some telegraph

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>operator couldn't send telegraphs even though the lines were active

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>because the magnetism in these currents was so strong that

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the armature, the thing that they tap up and down,

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was like fused to the plate beneath it. It was

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>just the magnets. The magnetism was so strong and it

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't move. Thought it was possessed. The probably left the

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>room screaming. They did, says is Beard. Oh we got

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the third one in there. Yeah. Should we take another break? Yeah?

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh almost so. So one other thing. Let's just wrap

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the Carrington Event up real quick, Okay, so ten am.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>The effects of this whole crazy event are are done.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it gets talked about. This is a

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>worldwide event, but it's kind of like treated as a

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:53.239
<v Speaker 1>scientific anomaly, right people. People understand what happened and what

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>caused it and why it happened. Over the years as

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we learned more and more about solar flares and coronal

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>mass ejections, but it didn't become a parent that this

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Carrington event was actually a harbinger of like real, much

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>bigger problems that could happen to us alive on Earth

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>today until the seventies, and um, maybe we'll take a break, chuck,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and come back and talk about how that could be

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>problematic right after this great m hm. Alright, So the

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>world changed a lot between the Carrington event in the

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>mid eighteen hundreds and in the nineteen seventies when scientists

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>had a much bigger handle on what this kind of

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>thing meant. And in the nineteen seventies we were the

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>whole world was very dependent on electric power. You might

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>be surprised to learn, right, and they knew like, hey,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>if we had another Carrington event today, it could be

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>a big deal because and we'll get to this later,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>but like, we got a lot of metal on this earth,

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and we use the earth to ground everything basically with

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>ground wires, and that creates a unique problem potentially if

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we had another event like this. Yeah, the fact that

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>we chose to use the earth as a ground um

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to where are grounding wires go from. Our electrical components

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>tie into a metal rod that's driven into the earth,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>so that whenever excess electricity is generated by the electronics

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that we use, it gets distributed through the grounding wire

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to the earth where it dissipates. That makes all of

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>our electronics vulnerable to a geomagnetic storm, because in a

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>geomagnetic storm, the ground itself can become magnetized. And even

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>more than that, chuck, We've buried a lot of metal infrastructure,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>from like pipes to um cables to all sorts of

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>metal stuff is snaking through the ground right now, and

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>when the ground becomes magnetized into geomagnetic storm it can

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>create it can carry really powerful currents through all the

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure up through the grounds, through the grounding wires, and

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>into our electronic components, uh including things like power transformers

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and overload them to the point where they fail catastrophically. Yeah.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And this, uh, this sort of happened in August two

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>there was a big, big solar flare that knocked out

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>our long distance phone communication across Illinois. So that was

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>just sort of an early example of like, hey, this

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>can actually have a real effect here on Earth. UM.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And that was that was a big one. It took

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I think about fifteen hours to hit Earth, whereas it

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>usually to two to three days. UM. It also set

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>off these um we had. It was during Vietnam obviously,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and we had magnetic sea mines in harbors around Vietnam.

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>It exploded those. Yeah, So I don't know if they

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be like secretly there and if that

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like oh, whoops, sorry about that, or

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>if they knew that they were there and and they

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>just went off. But either way, UM, that was a

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty scary scene. It was, and apparently it was a

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>mystery for a long time until somebody finally figured out

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 1>why those sea mines all went off. They connected it

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to the UM, to that coronal mass ejection, I believe. Yeah,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>but you can imagine like all the damage uh that

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>could occur, Like even if you're just talking about the

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>electrical grid. If it really blew out, it wouldn't be

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>just like a blackout, like it would destroy parts of

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>our electrical grid such that it would take It's not like, hey,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>let me go out and fix this over a few

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>hours during a snowstorm. It's it might take weeks or

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>months or even up to a year if we had

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a big enough, uh like blast to the grid. Yeah,

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>because I mean it is by necessity. Our electrical grid

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is interconnected. So if one part of it gets overloaded,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that can overload other parts that are connected. And if

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you have a whole city without power, for let's say

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles went went out of power for a month,

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>what would happen? What would be the what would be

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>the outcome of that? You couldn't do anything? And when

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you start thinking like that, you start thinking about, oh

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>my god, like, think about all the stuff we do

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that requires electricity. Everything we do requires electricity in some

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>form or fashion. And so to be without electricity in

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a major city or multiple major cities for even a

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks is just unthinkable. But that's that's the

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>level of vulnerability whereat because of the way that our

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>electrical components are set up because they're grounded. Yeah, and

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and not just like a chain reaction and apocalyptic kind

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of activity, but um, just monetary loss, like the economic

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and financial damage for the city of Los Angeles to

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be without power for a month would be astounding. Um.

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So you know, there's stuff they could do. They could uh,

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>they could fit some very critical transformers with resistors and capacitors,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but these things are like hundreds of thousand dollars per transformers,

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's just too much money. So they're not doing that. No,

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not. And I wonder if there's going to be

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>like some close call that makes everybody Okay, we need

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to invest this in our infrastructure, or you know, are

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>we going to figure out some other means of you know,

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a backup system. I'm not sure that happens to like Topeka.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And then everyone says, hey, if this happened in Topeka

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and they lost you know, several hundred dollars, and that's

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>really mean how it's gonna say? Did you think do

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you think Topeka would do it? Do you think that

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>would convince anybody? I don't know. I'm so sorry Topeka,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but you get my point. If it happens somewhere sort

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of in a smaller area than the big cities. Might say, Hey,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that means it could happen to us, the people who

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>really matter, right, the coastal elites would stroke their beards

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 1>and struck their tongues. Yeah so, um so yeah, there's

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>there doesn't seem to be a lot of initiative right

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>now to figure this out, and we're just kind of

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting ducks in a weird way. It's nothing. I don't

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's anything to lose sleepover. But it's really surprising.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Like the more I dug into this, the more I

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, huh, this could kind of be a thing someday.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just you know, the electrical grid uh

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>here on Earth alone is what is all that would

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>be affected by that? There um, things we rely on

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>out in space, like satellites a bad enough to you,

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a magnetic storm could affect satellites and a out of weights,

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>so our GPS systems would be messed up. Or if you,

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>um so, if you use GPS for really important stuff

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 1>like say landing an airplane, you could be in big trouble.

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Um and if you're also on planes, the high frequency

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>radio communications they used to stay in contact with the ground,

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>especially when they're out over the ocean or something like that. UM,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that can be disrupted by a solar flare or a

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>chronal mass ejection too. Yeah, or what about a satellite

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe that is I mean, there are thousands of satellites

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>up there, but and you know, if a radio satellite

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>went out, it would be bad, but people could live.

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>But what if it affected a satellite that's UM in

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>charge of aiding in national defense. Things could get a

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit scary if those satellites were down or you know, spacecraft,

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>their spacecraft up there and they use satellites to help

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>orient themselves and and keep themselves safe. Uh, there's an

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I S S. Although the ice supposedly is UH is

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>protected right yeah, oh yeah. The the big threat to

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>UM astronauts from coronal mass ejections and solar flares is

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>when they're out on spacewalks, when they're doing like labor,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>say outside the I S S or something like that. UM.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Just like here on Earth, if we didn't have the

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>ionosphere of the magnetosphere, UM, we would be in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Astronauts can be in big trouble. The I S s

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<v Speaker 1>orbits within the Earth's magnetosphere, but it's beyond the ionop

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>so they are a little more exposed. On the I

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 1>S S. It's shielded, so they're not nearly as exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>But out on a spacewalk they if it were a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad chronal mass ejection, they could be in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble. Um like Sandra her face in that

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<v Speaker 1>movie exactly. Uh, what is your last name? I can't remember,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>sandraw Burning, Sandra Bullo, Sandra, Sandy Duncan, Sandra Bullock. Yeah,

0:40:55.120 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Sandra Bernhard in that movie Space Space trit Space Craziness.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you like that movie Gravity? Uh? Yeah, I thought

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty good if I've only seen it once. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if I would have cast

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>her necessarily, but it's fine. Or George Cleaning, I don't

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>think I would have cast either of him. I mean

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I had some issues. I mean it was a magnificent

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>looking movie, but I think in the end I had

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<v Speaker 1>some issues with the story in the script being like

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough for how great of a movie it

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<v Speaker 1>was trumped up to be. Did Um was that the

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<v Speaker 1>by the guy who did The Revenant? I think so? Yeah,

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So you and I went and saw The Revenant in

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii Wants when we were on vacation, because what else

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>is there to do in Hawaii on vacation but go

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>see movies. And um, we saw The Revenant and this

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>person next to us was there by by himself, and

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>he was so upset um by Tom Hardy's character and

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just how evil he was that this guy was like

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<v Speaker 1>telling him he was the dead of all. He had

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<v Speaker 1>his hand up at the screen and was praying against

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Hardy. He was really affected by Tom Hardy's character,

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>which made the movie like even more thrilling because we

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>would look at the movie and then we watch this

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>person reacting to the movie too, So it was something

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>something to see. Yeah, I saw that once as well,

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and I saw it on tour with you. Either it

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was either Phoenix or San Diego. I don't would have

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to look at the dates, but I just remember there

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>being palm trees. I think it was San Diego. Maybe

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>when we did a show at that spooky abandoned church, man,

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced still to this day that that's the church

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>from the Prince of Darkness that John Carton. That was

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a weird show because that was the one I know.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You remember that guy sat on the front row and

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>shot the whole thing with a video camera and he

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>looked like he was mad too, like he was documenting

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>evidence or something to use against us. We both were like,

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 1>I think we were so caught off guard. We didn't

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>know what to say. Do we call this guy and say, sir,

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>can you please put away your camera? So we just

0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>soldiered on. Yeah, we were pinned down by the unrelenting

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>glare of the lens. And then he went back to

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>his apartment and showed it on TV to his roommate,

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>who was the Tom Hardy guy, right, and that guy

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, these guys are the devil. I'm praying against them.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh man uh alright, so yes, back to the show. Yeah,

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>where are we? Oh, here's the deal. We're talking about

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>astronauts and satellite operations and GPS. This isn't stuff that

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we have just um said, well, this probably could happen

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is, but um, this actually has happened. Um.

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>We'd mentioned the thing in Illinois with the phone systems

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and then in um the two thousand three that c

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>m E that did disrupt satellites and that did disrupt

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>high frequency radio communications that aviation relies on, and that

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>did blackout a city in Sweden. Mm hmm, mammo. Everyone

0:43:55.040 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>says no, not mammo, yeah, mamo everybody. So this the

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing can happen. It does happen, it's just

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>never happened on such a massive scale. UM. They figured

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>out from looking at Arctic ice cores, apparently highly energetic

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>particles leave um remnants, not revenants, remnants in nitrates frozen

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>in the ice and at the polls and UM. By

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>examining these cores, they can see how bad or how

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>often or how many solar flares of hit Earth in

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the past. And they figured out that the Carrington event

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is like a five hundred years solar flare, and it

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>happened about a hundred and seventy years ago. Hopefully we're

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 1>in the clear. The key is we're still figuring out

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the dynamics of the Sun and solar activity, so we're

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>not exactly certain that maybe we're not due for a

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand years solar flare. UM. We're just starting to figure

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this out, but we are figuring it out. That's step one.

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And we also actually have space weather forecasters here on

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Earth at Noah and at the National Weather Service, there

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>are people whose job it is subtract solar activity and

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>predict things like coronal mass ejections and solar flares so

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that people can, like like utility companies, can maybe take

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.919
<v Speaker 1>um steps to mitigate the worst effects. Eventually. I think

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 1>right now we've got like eight to ten minute heads up,

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>so that's not enough. But as we get to understand

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it a little more, we'll have more warning time. And

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, astronauts can plan their spacewalks when they're out

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>doing stuff like building future space colonies. This is all

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>going to come into play for that too. Yeah, So

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.959
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they can get that up to at least over

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>an hour. That would help. Sure. So again, it's nothing

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to lose sleepover. That's not the point of this episode.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>It's more just kind of like ge whiz, this is

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing by Zeus Beard. I've never heard of

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>anything like the old fourth reference. Yeahs, surprising fourth one

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>did not see that coming. Did you got anything else?

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else? All right, everybody chucks that he's

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.919
<v Speaker 1>got nothing else. So that's it for this episode, which

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>means it's time for listener mao. Well, let me see here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually got quite a few today, which is uh

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 1>an abundance. We've been getting more than usual, I haven't. Yeah,

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>we've been getting good ones. All right, I'll choose this one.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call it Rush Girl. Hey guys, I've been

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a long time listener, but you have never But I've

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>never had a reason to write until your recent Fort

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Knox episode. In it you refer to the joke you

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>had made about women not liking the Three Stooges. By

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the way, I got a little grief for that and

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>also support for that. Weirdly, Chuck made the comment that

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like he had something had said something true,

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but they're like there being no women Rush fans. I

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>immediately laugh because my future and mother in law is

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the biggest Rush fan. I love this lady. She and

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>my fiance have a bond over this band. In contrast,

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought the band was made up just for the

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>movie I Love You Man. Wow. Yeah, Megan did not

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>know Rush was a real band. She thought that was

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a fake band in a movie. Megan, you have a

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>whole world ready to open up to you. Yes, you do.

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess that they fit the trope According to my fiance,

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they call female rush fans getty corns, which sounds made up,

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>but he swears it's true getty corns. I don't get that,

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but like a unicorn maybe, oh yeah, exactly, or or

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it could be candy corn. No, no, I'm sure it's

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like the Getty Getty Lee unicorn mash up. I like that.

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that until just now, so thank you.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>At any rate, I can recognize the joke, and I'm

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>not coming after you for that. I just found it

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>funny that all the stereotypical male bands you could have picked,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you chose my mother in law's favorite. Thanks for all

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you do. Your podcast has gone a long way toward

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>helping me distress after a day of teaching during COVID.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>And that is from Megan Power and Megan, thank you,

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and big ups to your mother in law for being

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a getty corn. Yeah, not to be confused with candy corn. Well,

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be like Megan and let us

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.239
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0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.880
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