1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is the 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation podcast with instant reactions and analysis to breaking 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: news and events in Cowboys Nation. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: The Saga of the Summertime is over. Micah Parsons has 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: officially been traded from the Dallas Cowboys to the Green 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Bay Packers in return for one player, and that player 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: is Kenny Clark, defensive tackle from the Packers and two 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: first round picks. The Packers then agreed to a four year, 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty eight million dollar contract, one hundred 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: and thirty six million dollars of that guaranteed to continue 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: their services with Michaeh. Parsons as one of the biggest 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: and brightest names in all of the National Football League. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: No longer employed by the Cowboys. This is the Dallas 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys Name Podcast. Patrick Nocy, Walker, Tommy Arish, Mickey Spagnola. 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans. 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Matt Kent is running everything in the back and this 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: news coming down about about thirty minutes ago or so, 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: and we've we've had to wait until terms were discussed 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: and the contract was final, and that the word was 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: out there, but there were there was a little bit 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: of buzz in the building really from early this morning 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: Patrick that this could possibly happen. But it's really a 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: culmination of a significant amount of time, and Michael Parsons 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: is no longer a cowboy. 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 4: It is it's it's unfortunately also a culmination of pride 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: versus pride. No pun intendent. We're speaking about the lion, 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: but this this hearkens back. And Tommy did a great 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: timeline piece on the mica osaga that's on Dallas cowboys 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: dot com. Make sure you check that out, and it 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: basically just details how things devolved over the past several months. 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: This is a situation we're in. 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: Not even a year ago, Michael Parsons was talking about 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: just how much he loved Jerry Jones and vice versa, 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: and they were buddy buddy, and they were at the 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: Cotton Bowl together and they were enjoying some hot dogs 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: and all was hunky dory. Michael Parsons went as far 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: as saying he wanted to be a cowboy forever. Everything 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: looked and smelled great. Things completely fell off of the map. 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: The will started to fall off when the agent was 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: not involved, and then Micah chose to. At that point, 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: Michael said, Hey, I want to negotiate nothing further without 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: my agent present and involved in the conversations. Jerry Jones 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: felt as if, very vocally felt that he had a deal, 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: a handshake deal with Michael Parsons, and he was not 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: willing to entertain renegotiating a new deal with his agent. 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: So from there you have the trade request that you 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: came out of out of the asteroid belt and landed 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: on Earth. And of course at that point any one 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: of us, and all of us, particularly Coyle Nikki, we've 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: all seen ugly negotiations. We've seen DeMarcus Loan it's weaponized 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: his shoulder injury to get a deal done to come 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: off of that second franchise tag. So we've seen things 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: get ugly, but this had a different tone the longer 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: it went forward. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 5: So here we are. 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: You know, like you said, how the whispers around the 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: building over the past couple of days were growing and 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: that this was a possibility, and then it started to 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: inch towards likelihood. And even then it was still difficult 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: to fathom that the cowboys would actually pull the trigger 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: on this. 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: But here we are. 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 4: The trigger is pulled, and Brian Schottenheimer is simply hoping 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: that this doesn't turn into an extinction level event in 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: his first year as head coach of the Dallas Comeboys. 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, talk about this for your first first year as 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 6: an NFL he. 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to the before his first game job, and a 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: week ahead of his first game against the coach against 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: the reigning Super Bowl champions. 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: So you know, the timing on this is what makes 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 6: it really unfortunate, I think really for everybody, because now 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 6: you've got reportedly the trade was for Kenny Clark, the 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 6: Pro Bowl defensive tackle, and he's got now less than 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 6: a week to ingrain himself into Matt Eberfluss's scheme in 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 6: this defense. And Michael Parsons, who hasn't practiced at all 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 6: since who knows when he's been training on his own, 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: now has to go to Green Bay and it's going 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: to take some time to ramp back up. So this 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 6: has been such a fascinating, interesting, weaving road that you 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 6: always kind of felt, and I always kind of felt. 83 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 6: Really only the last couple of days it was I 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 6: really considering the chance that something like this could happen. 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 6: I think it's safe to say in my opinion, and 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 6: I'm not speaking for anybody else except for myself, that 87 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 6: this is one of, if not the most shocking trade 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 6: in NFL history, just because you always felt like everything 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 6: that was going on was a negotiation tactic to get 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 6: to a point where the Cowboys would extend Michael Parsons, 91 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 6: making the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. And 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: even you know, some of the buzz about a potential trade, 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: you felt like, hey, maybe that's just trying to They 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 6: say deadline lines make deals. Maybe that's just trying to 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 6: push that forward. 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: And here we are. 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 6: It's come a long way since that conversation in March 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 6: that you mentioned, Patrick, where Jerry Jones said that he 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 6: and Michael Parsons had talked out just about everything that 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 6: came with the deal, and Parsons wanted to get his 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 6: agent involved, as a lot of players, really most players do, 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 6: and Jerry Jones doesn't want didn't want to move off 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 6: of the agreement that they had. And here we are, 104 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: and now Michael Parsons goes to the Green Bay Packers, 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 6: and we've got a big red circle on Week four 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: of forty twenty five calendar, when the Green Bay Packers 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 6: come to Dallas on Sunday Night football appropriately standalone game. 108 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 6: Of course, Parsons returns to Faces now former team. 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 7: They sell any tickets for that game. 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: Yet if they did, they're gone. 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 7: Look when you mentioned Schottenheimer, I used to tell Jason 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 7: Garrett this all the time when things like, not to 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 7: this extent, but things would happen, and I'd say, so 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 7: you wanted to be a head coach, and welcome to 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 7: being a head coach, Brian Schottenheimer. 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: All right. 117 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 7: So I learned my lesson during in eighty nine when 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 7: the Cowboys traded herschel Walker and they didn't divulge all 119 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 7: the details immediately on what the trade was, and we 120 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 7: kind of panned the trade, and then we found out 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 7: a couple of days later that part of the trade 122 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 7: was not the five players, but the draft choices that 123 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 7: were attached to the five players. So I would like 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 7: to see number one, not the agent's numbers, the real 125 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 7: numbers that get filed with the NFL. 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: And number two. 127 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 7: Is there anything more than Kenny Clark? Because I wrote 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 7: down this morning when we were talking about it, I 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 7: wrote down two first round picks and two starters. Yeah, 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 7: so I'm one starter almost I'm one starter, Sure you gotta. 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Find one more. 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 7: Nobody else got to be thrown in. But but but 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 7: think about it this way. So from the Cowboys standpoint, 134 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 7: it's not like a deal that knocked your socks off, right, 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 7: so they must have wanted to do it right. It 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 7: wasn't like, oh, we gave you four first round picks. 137 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 7: It's two first round picks, and they're not in the 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 7: same year, so you don't get to, uh, you know, 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: reap the benefits of the trade until twenty twenty seven. 140 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 7: And where's those picks going. 141 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: To be exactly if they end up being legitimate because 142 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: Green Bay was already super now and now arguably they've 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: not even arguably they've gotten better. 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: Yep, we'll see what that. You know, how that transpire 145 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: is in the record in the postseason. But I mean, 146 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: if these two first round picks end up, I mean 147 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: thirty thirty one, thirty two, one of the like that's 148 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: second rounder. 149 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: That's basically a second rounder. 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: Right in the voice of Josh Rodery, what are we 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: doing if it turns out to be that? 152 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: What do we dooing? 153 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 7: So to me, and you know, Ambira wanted to quick 154 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 7: answer what I thought of this, and I said, I 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 7: think we need to ask the question did you really 156 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 7: want to keep Michael Persons? And it sounds like from 157 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 7: the negotiations they had to be hesitant to sign them 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 7: to a long term deal. I mean, it's not that difficult, right, 159 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 7: And the other thing I was telling people all the 160 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 7: time was, you know, everybody said, well, we know what 161 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 7: the number is. You know, because this is what's going 162 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 7: to make him the highest paid. It's going to be 163 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 7: forty one million a year. And I said, well, how 164 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 7: do you know they're not asking for fifty Well. 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: Forty seven pretty high right. 166 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 5: Now. 167 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 7: We got to see because there's two different numbers out 168 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 7: there for guarantee. One's one hundred and twenty at signing 169 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: one's one hundred and thirty six. Ye, so there's some 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 7: funny things in there. So I want to see the 171 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 7: rest of the deal. But I wanted I didn't want 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 7: to ask the question to Jerry in front of everybody, 173 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 7: but I wanted to know, do you really want. 174 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: To keep them? 175 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: But that's an excellent point and not entirely dissimilar was 176 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: the Amari Cooper situation. So although they had already paid 177 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: Mark Cooper, gave him one hundred million dollar contract. But 178 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: thereafter things as far as the relationship between the organization 179 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: and Amari Cooper, it deteriorated to the point where so 180 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: many of us, as analysts and Cowboys fans alike, they 181 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: were like, well, why would you even entertain moving off 182 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: of Mark Cooper? And at that point, and Mark Cooper 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: was still arguably peak. Okay, so he was still one 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: definitely good player's route runners, and he was still a 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: contributor at a high level. But to Mickey's point, if 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: the Cowboys came to the determination with Michael Parsons similar 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: to what they came to the determination with Mark Cooper 188 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: and just said, you know what, we could keep you around, 189 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: we could pay you, we just don't want you here anymore. 190 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: And if that's the case, then that explains them pulling 191 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: the trigger and sending him away, not only away, but 192 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: to an NFC team, and not only in the NFC team, 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: but one that is a contender and also one that's been. 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: A thorn in your ass. 195 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 6: Yeah they haven't lost at and T Stadium yet ever. 196 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, and now they have Michael Parsons. 197 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 6: And now they have Michael Parsons when they come back here, 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 6: week four. 199 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 7: Well, there was a point when they never beat Green Bay. 200 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: Green Bay. 201 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: Also there's a time there too. 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: I lived it, the storylines and the layers to this 203 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: whole thing, because, like you said, this is all reading 204 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: tea leaves. I'm wondering how much transparency will receive now 205 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: that it's done, Now that it's over with and the 206 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: saga has come to a close, because over the next 207 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: few days, when Brian Schottenheimer speaks, I know Jerry Jones. 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: Probably is around the corner. 209 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: He's probably got a radio hit coming up in the 210 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: next couple of days going into week one. Either way, 211 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: there's going to be conversations to the media about this 212 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: and how is it going to be transparent or is 213 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: it going to be a smoke screen of Oh we 214 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: felt one way about this guy, we felt another way 215 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: about this guy. We felt comfortable taking the return and 216 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: we couldn't say no. I think that's probably the more 217 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: likely scenario. 218 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 7: Well, think about this. How many times have we heard 219 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 7: or Jerry point out we have three years of control 220 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 7: on him. Yeah, right, So to me, I don't think 221 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 7: it was the money. I think they were hesitant to 222 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 7: pay him a long term deal with a signing bonus 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: that large. 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 6: And to build off of that back in March when 225 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: we talked to him at the owners meeting is April first, 226 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 6: excuse me. When you talked him at the owners meetings, 227 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 6: he was talking about, ow hey, look, if we're going 228 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 6: to pay Michael Parsons this sump of this lump sum 229 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: of money, then we need to see more from him 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 6: as a leader. And you define leadership however you'd like 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: to define it. Everybody's different, right, Everybody has a different 232 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 6: leadership style. Some guys are just natural at it. Some 233 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 6: guys aren't really leaders and that's okay. And I don't 234 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 6: I think that, you know, building off of what you 235 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: said Patrick, what you said, Mickey, I think I would 236 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 6: think it's safe to say that part of this has 237 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 6: to do with you know, maybe there's a part of 238 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: there's maybe people that just don't think that Parsons showed 239 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: enough of what they wanted from a leadership. 240 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: Stand Well, think about the lasting impact here, Think about 241 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: what his final image as a cowboy will ultimately be 242 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: for Cowboys fans in the front office. It was him 243 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: laying it that is that that's the lasting impact. That's 244 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: not necessarily what Michael Parsons was to this organization. I mean, 245 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, you look at the film, 246 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: they both tell a story that is he is one 247 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: of the best edge rushers in the National Football League 248 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: and he has a chance to be one of the 249 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: greatest to ever play this game playing it simple. The 250 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: numbers and the stats in the film, they all say that. 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: But when you have that as the lasting impact, I'm 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: wondering if that was the straw that broke in and 253 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: took this thing to a new level. It made it 254 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: wasn't the only thing. That was not the. 255 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: Only thing, because there are certainly people in the locker room, 256 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 6: like Trayvon Diggs amongst others, that have that have respect 257 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 6: for Michael Parsons, that love Michael Parsons as a teammate 258 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 6: and as a football player, no question, Kyle, I mean, 259 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 6: this guy's one of the best in the league. It's 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 6: not you know, he has potentially, like you said, to 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 6: be one of the best pass rushers of all time. 262 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 6: He and Reggie White are the only two defensive ends 263 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 6: in NFL history who have twelve sacks in their first 264 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: four years of football. Gust twenty six years old. So 265 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 6: he did Reggie White play for the house. 266 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: Say you just made this point. 267 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: The Cowboys just gave the Green Bay Packers the another 268 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Reggie White. 269 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: They just gave them a new and it might. 270 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 6: Be better, it might end up being it's it's got a. 271 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Long way to go. 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a what a what a move 273 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: by the Green Bay Packers. Hate to give them credit 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: for that, but man, they pulled that off. 275 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they did. 276 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 7: They fly him in for an mri imer. 277 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 5: I don't know where. I don't know where you went. 278 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 7: What happened to the bad back? 279 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: Maybe the second opinion came back clean. Also, forty eight 280 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 4: million helps a band aid. 281 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: And I'll say this too. 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 6: You know you look at you guys mentioned in the 283 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 6: herschel Walker trade earlier, that was five total draft picks, 284 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: if I'm remembering correctly. 285 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Now, it was more five than whatever players. 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 6: There was never going to be another herschel Walk No, right, 287 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 6: there was never going to be anything like that. I 288 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 6: look at then the terms are now official. By the way, 289 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 6: the Cowboys get defensive tackle Kenny Clark three Pro Bowler 290 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, first twenty twenty seven, first for Michael Parsons, 291 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: And again I'm speaking for myself here, I think Parsons 292 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: is worth more than that. 293 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: I think I I. 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 6: Well, if i'm talking in my opinion, I know Michael 295 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 6: Parsons is worth more than I'm saying that. You know, 296 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 6: it's completely fleeced or anything like that. That that term get, 297 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: you know, two first round picks is very valuable. 298 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: I want to be very clear here. I agree with 299 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: you when it comes to x's and o's, but remember 300 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: you're not taking on a single dollar of that contract. 301 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: Now Green Bay has to turn around and pay him, 302 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: and they're okay with doing that. 303 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: They're cool with doing that. That's part of why this happened. 304 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: You might have been okay with it. 305 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: You should have been. 306 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: I agree, we're on the same page here, but just 307 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: remember that's a part of this trade too. Not only 308 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: are they having to give up two first round picks 309 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: and a Pro Bowl type defensive tackle which I don't 310 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: even want to bring Clark into this. 311 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: And I feel bad for Kenny Clark. 312 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: Because he's always going to be tied. 313 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: He's going to be tie that. He's a really good player. Hopefully, 314 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: hopefully you'll turn it out today. 315 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: He's been a very good player in his career. 316 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Yes, coming off of a down year, but still a 317 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: really good player overall. I think when it comes to 318 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: this whole scenario, the contract played a huge part of that, 319 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: and you don't. 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: Have to pay a single dollar of that. You have 321 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: that salary cap. 322 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: Maybe it opens up the possibility for more moves down 323 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: the line. 324 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: Who knows. 325 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of Cowboys fans out there rolling, so. 326 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: Let's let's ye. 327 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: But it all plays in a different factor. 328 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: So if and I will give the Cowboys credit for 329 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: being far more active in this this past spring as 330 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: they try to set up the roster for Schotenheimer over 331 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: last year when they exceptionally did not the rule exactly 332 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: that being the exception, Yes, you free up the twenty 333 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 4: four million dollars that you would have had fully guaranteed 334 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: for Michael Parsons. That to my calculation, gives you roughly 335 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: around forty four million dollars in salary cap space right now. Yes, 336 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: you can roll over that unused portion for the twenty 337 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: twenty six free agency so forth and so on. That 338 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: sounds great unless you don't do anything with it, And 339 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: that is the has typically been the normalody here right 340 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: whereas the Cowboys are not typically if at all active 341 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: in free agency. So yeah, if you walk around with 342 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: forty four to forty five million dollars in salary cap space, 343 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: but it's just burning a hole in your pocket, then 344 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: you know what do you have the space for? I 345 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: will also counter that no one on this roster. Now 346 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: this isn't to say a guy like Donovan is rock 347 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: who doesn't have a high ceiling. We talked about it 348 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: this morning when we were rating the positions talking Cowboys 349 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: shameless plug, I had I believe he has a high ceiling. 350 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 4: I believe Marshawn Niland has a high ceiling. We know 351 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: what Dante Fowler can be coming off of a career season. 352 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: We're waiting to see what Sam Williams can be. Will 353 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: he need a grace period coming off of that toWin 354 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: a c O. 355 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 5: We don't know. 356 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: But when you look at this defensive end room without 357 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: Michael Parsons, there is no one on this roster right 358 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: now that will give you what Michael Parsons gives you. 359 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: What were those numbers that you just said, comforable to 360 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: Reggie White? 361 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, comforable, Reggie. 362 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: Is there anyone on this roster you see that can 363 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 5: do that? 364 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: The only one right now, but he possibly get there 365 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: is Donovan as a. 366 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 5: Rocker, and that's probably a year conversation. Three. 367 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: Maybe that's an astronomical ask and unfair to the rookie 368 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: one beyond unfair. 369 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 6: And the thing we talked I've talked about all season 370 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 6: and we all collectively have said it. The Cowboys pass 371 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 6: rushing unit is very deep. But they were very deep 372 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 6: because they had Michael Parsons in the front of it. 373 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 6: And when you have a player of that caliber, he's 374 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: going to make things so much easier for everybody around 375 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 6: you to get to the quarterback because of the because 376 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: of the attention that he gets. Now you think about 377 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 6: this too from a number standpoint, If you don't think 378 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 6: the numbers marry that. Since twenty twenty one in expected 379 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 6: points per play on the defensive side of the ball, 380 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: the Cowboys were first in the league with Michael Parsons 381 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: on the field. When he wasn't, they were dead last. 382 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 6: If one player is making that big of an impact, 383 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 6: ground there's no middle ground. 384 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: So one player is making that big of an impact. 385 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: Then why did they do it and didn't have to? 386 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 5: Because no, they didn't have to. 387 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: They didn't have to they won it, they. 388 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 6: Had the car I could fully understand. I think there 389 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 6: is I think there is a level of they wanted 390 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 6: to You're right, and I think you know, financially you 391 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: look at it. Think about the other thing too, the 392 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 6: other of the five hundred and sixty seven layers that 393 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 6: are on this you've got. We'll talk about the guys 394 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: that are coming up for extensions here soon. 395 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 7: Well they can get them now, thank you, mickeydron. 396 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: Bland, Brandon, Aubrey Tyler Smith, George Pickens who has the 397 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 6: same agent as Michael Parsons, by the way, and David Malletta. 398 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 6: And you know that's that's four guys that are going 399 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: to be key players for you this year, that are 400 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 6: going to be are going to be up for for 401 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 6: money this year. 402 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 5: Now. 403 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: I don't think any of them are going to reach 404 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 6: Michael Parsons level of money. So maybe they look ahead 405 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 6: and say, you know, we'd rather have these four guys 406 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: instead of one. And I'm not here to tell you 407 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: what's right and what's wrong. I'm just telling you what. 408 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 7: But they probably are, but they're looking at how many 409 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 7: players can I get for one guy? 410 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: Of course they are, but of all the names of 411 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: the names you just mentioned that are up for contract extensions, 412 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: only one is going to reset the market. His position 413 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: is Tyler Smith, right, and that's I could if he continues, 414 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: If he continues, if he has another season, No, the kicker, 415 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: that's fair. 416 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: Reset it. 417 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: But they're breaking their levels to resetting markets positions. Okay, So, 418 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: Brendan Aubrey, you're right, Mickey, Reddan Auburn resetting the kicker market. 419 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: It's not quite the same as defensive end and offensive 420 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: guard and offensive tackle. But so, yes, Mickey's right, they're 421 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: looking at it as Okay, well, instead of paying Michael Parsons, 422 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: we can pay three or four guys. Here's the problem 423 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: with that philosophy is it's continually not paid off for 424 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: you as far as postseason wins are concerned. It's a 425 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: philosophy the Cowboys have carried for a very very long time. 426 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: And how long has it been since you've been to 427 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: that promised land again? 428 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: Thirty years? 429 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So at a certain point, and this isn't to 430 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 4: say that they haven't recently paid because they paid Dack, 431 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 4: they paid CD Okay, they're you know, they paid Jake 432 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: Ferguson to a lesser degree, pay treyvon Diggs. So they're 433 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 4: willing to pay guys, but typically the guys they're willing 434 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: to pay are coming in less than market resetters, with 435 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: the exception being Dak and see he was kind of 436 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: like dollars to donuts type. Sure, but at a certain point, 437 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: when are you going to concede to the possibility that 438 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: getting three or four good to slightly above average guys 439 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: is not equivalent or better than getting one planet shifting 440 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 4: talent not. 441 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 5: So long ago, And I'm gonna throw it to you 442 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: not so long ago. 443 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: You guys, remember, right, cowboys could not get after the quarterback. No, absolutely, 444 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: Now it was the Marcus Lawrence and who else especially 445 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: isn't Postmarcus where it is Brandy Gregory. And then that 446 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: didn't work out, okay. Jerry Jones was the very individual 447 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: who said he was looking for He coined the phrase 448 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: war daddy. He said, I'm looking for a ward daddy. 449 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: I'd give up a limb to find a war daddy. 450 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: That's generational, cter cetera. You just had one, and you 451 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: just sent them to Green Bay. 452 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here just for a second. 453 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: Not because the this is completely all good, and I 454 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: agree with you. I still think about point. This is 455 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: just an alternative point. You talk about how things haven't 456 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: worked in the past, right, and how they haven't turned 457 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: in the postseason wins because you continue to resign your guys. 458 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: Part of the downfall of continuing to resign your guys 459 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: is you have to rely on what. 460 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: Young draft picks. 461 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: Young guys, young guys that have rookie contracts and they've drafted, well, give. 462 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: Them the credit. Credit and that scouting department. 463 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: It hasn't been perfect, but they've drafted now, but it's 464 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: pretty if you're able to marry those contracts the guys 465 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: that you do believe in and you have seen. 466 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: Be established in the lead. Tyler Smith's the the George Pickens, the. 467 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: CD Lamps, the Dak presprescott these guys together with a 468 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: multitude of picks which they are going to have. Remember 469 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: the last two times they they've selected twice. In the 470 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: first round two thousand and eight, which didn't necessarily work 471 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: out a ton who did they take Felix Jones. 472 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: And Mike Jankins. 473 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: But then the one before that, in two thousand and five, 474 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: they took a guy named DeMarcus Ware and another guy 475 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: named Marcus Spears. 476 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: So it can work. 477 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 7: If you had him in the same year, if you 478 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 7: have him in the same year, they're. 479 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: Not it can work. 480 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: That's really the But that's got to be their thought 481 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: process here is maybe we are trying to sell as 482 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: a Cowboys organization speaking on their path. Maybe they're trying 483 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: to do something different, and this is their shot at 484 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: doing it. I know it's not what people want to hear. 485 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, Michael Parsons is 486 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: gone and he is in Green Bay and we're just 487 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: gonna as Cowboys fans, have to look at that and 488 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: deal with it. But right now, what you're going to 489 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: do next is what's going to define whether this was 490 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: the right move or the wrong move. And I agree 491 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: with you Patrick, you have to supplement that with the 492 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: salary cap, with draft picks, and with resigning the guys 493 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: that are worth being re signed. And at this point 494 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: in time, they don't feel like Michael Parsons was there. 495 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 7: Or the reason why they don't trust him. 496 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 6: Sure, and I'll add this too, I think if you 497 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 6: are trying to find some sort of I understand that 498 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 6: for Cowboys fans and really Dallas Area sports fans in general. 499 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 6: Over the past year, it's been it's been. It's been tough, 500 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 6: and I think tough is maybe putting it lightly. Will 501 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 6: McLay and this scouting staff are one of the better 502 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: ones in the league, if not the best one in 503 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 6: the league. You just look at their recent track record. Right, 504 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 6: everybody's got their misses here and there. Right, you just 505 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 6: naturally do. You can't go without it. But the level 506 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 6: that they've hit on has been so much better than 507 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: so many more organizations around the league. Now that said, 508 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 6: you got to go out and do it. Like you said, Kyle, 509 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 6: you have to go out and hit it. Part of 510 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 6: the reason why the herschel Walker trade worked out so 511 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: well for the Cowboys is because they hit three home 512 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 6: runs at least, Right. 513 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 7: But what the bottom line was, they had so many 514 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 7: draft picks they could miss and it didn't show up 515 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 7: because they didn't hit on all those picks. 516 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Right, what they had, they had. 517 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 7: A third round pick, they didn't even make it out 518 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 7: of training camp. Yeah, right, Well, there's when you've got 519 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 7: the volume. Then not every pick is so important. 520 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, they have two first round picks in twenty six 521 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: and two first round picks in twenty six, right, So 522 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot on the table for them and the 523 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: way that. 524 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 7: They trade and get as high as you want to 525 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 7: get whoever you want correct because you could say, well, 526 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 7: I'm going to package two first round picks now and 527 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: i want to get that guy in the top ten. 528 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 6: Right, And you can do that, or you can take 529 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 6: a second or a third round pick and try to 530 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 6: move up in the first if you've got a guy 531 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 6: that you really like, and so. 532 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: Maybe you need a quarterback. 533 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: If let's say, God forbid, Dak Prescott doesn't work out 534 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five and you need to go get 535 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback, you've got the capital to do that. Now 536 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: you have the capital to go draft a quarterback or 537 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: a pass rusher or a pass rusher, or go get 538 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: you out rush. But that's the one that hurts because 539 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: even if they go and draft a really good pass rusher, 540 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: is it going to be up to the level exactly? 541 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: Probably not. 542 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 7: Well, it kind of reminds you of the nine eight 543 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 7: draft when they passed on Randy Moss along with twenty 544 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 7: other teams and took Greg Ellis. And Greg Ellis had 545 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: a fine career the rest of his you know, for 546 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 7: what ten twelve years, but everybody always compared it to 547 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 7: Randy Moss. Yeah, he wasn't Randy Moss. And Randy Moss 548 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 7: didn't get drafted to the twenty first pick if I 549 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 7: remember correctly, the Cowboys were at like eight. 550 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: I believe for every TJ. 551 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Watt or for every Micah Parsons, there's a Taco Charlton 552 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: and a TJ. 553 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 3: Watts scenario. You know, like that's just the draft in general. 554 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: Right, that happens now that we've kind of hit that, 555 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: that's what's next. 556 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: We've happened. 557 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: We talked about what's happened here. I just want to 558 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: close us out here by saying, why or how did 559 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: we get to this point? How did we get here? 560 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: I keep circling back to the August first trade request, 561 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: when we were on the tennis courts in Oxnard, California, 562 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: getting ready for training camp practice, and all of a sudden, 563 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: actually it wasn't even a practice that day, it was 564 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: an off day, and the post comes out on X 565 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons requests a trade, and like Tommy mentioned at 566 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 2: the beginning of the show, I think all of us 567 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: collectively said, it's part of negotiations. It's part of this 568 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: whole scenario, this whole process. I don't think that was 569 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: necessarily an empty thought process from that point forward, and 570 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: I think there were real feelings both on the Michael 571 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: Parsons side and on the front office side. There were 572 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: real feelings of either frustration or discontent between one side 573 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: or the other that led us to this point. 574 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: What do you believe, Tommy, I believe what you just said. 575 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: I think that you know we said it was, oh, 576 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 6: this is part of the negotiation, because we've seen it 577 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 6: twice already this offseason Terry McLaurin and Miles Gearrett, both 578 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 6: of them got extended, and you know that we thought, Okay, 579 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 6: this is just the same thing with Michael Parsons. The 580 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 6: Cowboys have taken a long time later than some other 581 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 6: teams to get their star players ex signed. You just 582 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 6: saw it last year with Seede Lamb and Dak Prescott. 583 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 6: It seemed like everything was going just like things had 584 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 6: gone in the past, and things were going the same. 585 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 6: I think the fact that there was no communication between 586 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: both sides after that initial meeting in March rubbed Michael 587 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 6: Parson's the wrong way, and in part rubbed Jerry Jones 588 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 6: the wrong way because he thought they had an agreement. 589 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 6: Parsons thought it was a conversation about leadership and not 590 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 6: a negotiation. They never saw eye to eye to that, 591 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: and ultimately that was the hurdle they could never get over. 592 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 7: And then he went out and watched practice. Yeah, he 593 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: didn't want to be here, but he went out and 594 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 7: watched all those practices. Why do he do that? 595 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: You scouting for week four? 596 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 7: Why was he out there doing conditioning work the other day? Right, 597 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 7: bad back, but he was doing conditioning work. So I 598 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 7: don't want to be here, but I'm going to come 599 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 7: out and stand on the sideline for all these pre 600 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 7: season games. Why didn't he go? But because he is 601 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: not a chance getting fined, Right, It came down to money. 602 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 7: So and this whole leadership thing he had three months 603 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: of leadership in his entire career here, Yeah, because he 604 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 7: was not a leader before that. Right, And I'll guarantee 605 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 7: you there's people in this building that are applauding this. 606 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 7: Sure just almost like good riddance. 607 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: There's people in the fan base. It's not the majority, 608 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: not the fans I'm talking. Oh, I know this, Oh, 609 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: I understand that completely. But from the fan base, there's 610 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: a split. It's not a majority split on the good 611 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: written side. That is not the split that I'm seeing, 612 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: But there is a split. There are people out there 613 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: that are happy with this deal and that are happy there. 614 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: So here here's my question to those individuals. It's just 615 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: a very simple question. Feel free to drop your answer 616 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: in the chat. No, it's really it's really a simple question, 617 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: all things considered, we're talking about subjectiveness on what you 618 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: define leadership as versus what you don't define leadership as. 619 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: Was he on the sideline because he didn't want to 620 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 4: be fine, which I believe is true. Was that solely 621 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: the reason or did he also really have the camaraderie 622 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: with his locker room? You saw the camaraderie show itself 623 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: on social media when he demanded the trade and things 624 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: started to go south. Guys were changing their avis. Defensive 625 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: players are changing their avis in solidarity for Michael Parsons. 626 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: All of that's true. Trevon Diggs and how he feels 627 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: about Micah, all of that's true. Simply put, are the 628 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: Cowboys better right now on August twenty eighth without Michael 629 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: Parsons on the roster? 630 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 5: No? No, No, absolutely, not all. 631 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: Right then, because I'm of the mindset of and maybe 632 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: this is the super competitor in me. Okay, the super 633 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: competitor in me says, if we're teammates, as long as 634 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 4: you're doing your job and we can be civil and 635 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: we're winning games, I don't have to like you. 636 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: I just want to win. 637 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: I want to win, and as long as we can coexist, 638 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: I don't need to come to your you know, your 639 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: your daughter's graduation, shouts out to her. But I don't 640 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: need to come there. You don't need to come to 641 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 4: my cookout right. But if we can win and coexist, 642 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: then that's all I require because I'm trying to win. 643 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: Anything short of that becomes pride getting in the way 644 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: of the main thing. And at a certain point you 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: got to ask yourself, are you still keeping the main thing? 646 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: The main thing? 647 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: The main thing right now is the main storyline, and 648 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: that this is this is done. It is done, and 649 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons is no longer a Dallas Cowboy. The Cowboys 650 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: will have to try and replace him as soon as Thursday, 651 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: September fourth, against one team that's up in Philadelphia that 652 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl just a couple months ago. With 653 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: some really good play where on their defense from their 654 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: front seven. 655 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 7: Well, now they got somebody to stop the runner. 656 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: And now they got somebody to stop the open. Kenny Clark, 657 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: he's a good player. Don't hate on. 658 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 5: Clean, No, No, that's what I mean. 659 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, like you talked about, Kenny Clark can come in 660 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: and he can be a very solid He's Anthony Davis, right, 661 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: but unfortunately or no, because Anthony Davis can't stay healthy 662 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: and Kenny Clark actually can hopefully. But Kenny Clark, you know, 663 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: I would urge everyone to kind of try to mentally 664 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: not attach Kenny Clark's productivity or whatever he does on 665 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: the field to Michael. But realistically speaking, human psychology dictates 666 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: he will always be tied to the Michael Parsons trade 667 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: and he and unless he goes out there and has 668 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame season Kenny Clark does, then you 669 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: can tell there's there's gonna be a lot of fans 670 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 4: that just they were going to say that that was insufficient. 671 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 4: And that's fine because I actually agree with Mickey and 672 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: that this Hall just wasn't enough for me. And that's 673 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: not a knock to Kenny Clark. I just expected more 674 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: for a player of the caliber of Michael Parker. Don't 675 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: you think there's no kitchen sink here? Where's my kitchen? 676 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: Where's kitchen? 677 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 7: They're at least as smart as us, right what we've 678 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 7: said up? 679 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 6: Oh? 680 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, right, So they didn't have to do this, There 681 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 7: was no gun to their head to do this. They 682 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 7: wanted to and they went ahead and did it, right, 683 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 7: So why. 684 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: There's a reason. 685 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: Uh, before we go, last thing, very quickly, one word, 686 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: is this the second most polarizing trade. 687 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: In Cowboys history? Behind only the herschel Walker trade? Patrick? 688 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Nickey, is there one that stands out almost, say 689 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: Roy Williams wide receiver. 690 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 5: But I'm going to go I'm going to say now, 691 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: since then? 692 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: Since then? 693 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 7: Because they didn't want they didn't want herschel Walker. 694 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well, I mean that's what you're saying about Micah. 695 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 7: Well, then is it a polarizing trade or did they 696 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 7: do what they wanted to do? 697 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: Maybe that's the answer that to the general public, right 698 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: to the general. 699 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 5: To the general general, this is the Lucra trade. 700 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 7: To the Yes, I mean you had a team on 701 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 7: its way to one in fifteen and you had one 702 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 7: player basically and you said Okay, I'm gonna trade them, 703 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 7: and then you got multiple Pro Bowl players out of 704 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 7: the trade. 705 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 5: But now you only got two pigs, and they might 706 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: be in the. 707 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: Right late right exactly. 708 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: Man. 709 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 7: And the thing on that one was they didn't come 710 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 7: clean on what the trade was until two or three 711 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 7: days later. So the whole thing on the Netflix thing 712 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 7: bad about we got the guys, keep bad guys. 713 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: We got, we got some guys, yet. 714 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 7: They had no nobody had a clue what they had. 715 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: What do you think, Tommy, Yes, I think so too. 716 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: All right, that does it for us? 717 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: Catch Tommy Ketch Patrick on talking Cowboys with myself tomorrow morning, 718 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: nine am. 719 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk more about it. 720 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 5: Uh. 721 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: I had a game lined up that's not gonna happen tomorrow. 722 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 3: We'll do that later. Got a lot more big shots 723 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: at noon. I'm getting there, Mickey Mick shots at noon. 724 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: Didn't want Bill Jones. It is in Everson Walls and 725 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison. 726 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: They'll have it breaking down to be sure to join 727 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: us throughout all of tomorrow's podcasts here on Dallas Cowboys 728 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: dot Com. 729 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: More to come. 730 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot going on there. Still more 731 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: unwinding but the bottom line, Michael Parsons traded to the 732 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers for two first round picks, one in 733 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: twenty six, one in twenty seven, and Kenny Clark defensive 734 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: tackle on his way to Dallas. Thanks for watching the 735 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys Nation podcast We'll see you next time. 736 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 737 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboy