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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Many years ago,

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Speaker 1: at me without hesitation and said, I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you a piece of life advice as a friend right now,

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Speaker 1: never tell a rich man how to spend his money.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to remember that because every single

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Speaker 1: time we see an athlete take less, there's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people that love to yell into a microphone and

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Speaker 1: yell at their radios and yell at their TV saying

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Speaker 1: this is what everybody should do. What if, just what

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Speaker 1: if every single circumstance is different. It's Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Vitz hanging out with Carrie Rhodes. We're broadcasting

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Speaker 1: should be. Carrie Roads, you played for a long time

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. You had a bunch of success. You

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Speaker 1: know what this is like to be an athlete with

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to make luckily unfortunately, after a lifetime of work,

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Speaker 1: money that can change the family forever. Right, And yes,

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Speaker 1: there's this moment when we see that happen, and we

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Speaker 1: saw Jalen Brunton take less money with the Knicks. The

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Speaker 1: people use this like this Brady moment, and everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to yell, this is what you're supposed to do, Let

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Speaker 1: them build the team. I find that difficult because what

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Speaker 1: we forget sometimes in these situations is that every single

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Speaker 1: maximize their value in everything they do. I can't apply

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Speaker 1: simply because I love the game they play. Brother.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's beautiful, beautiful, beautifully said, and obviously yes,

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Speaker 2: everybody has their own own things going on. Some people

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Speaker 2: have their own agendas, some people have other agendas. Right,

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Speaker 2: And I think with the guy like Jalen, this is

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Speaker 2: another chance for him to cash in, cash out, whatever

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Speaker 2: for his team to get better possibly and you know,

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Speaker 2: to save some money and not be all in on gluttony,

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Speaker 2: which is which is a beautiful thing. And I think

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Speaker 2: But again, I mean, we're talking about millions and millions

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Speaker 2: it seems like, you know, Jalen's on board with that.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't care who we're talking about. He's Carry Roads.

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Speaker 1: Carry twenty five Roads, at Jason fitz hanging out, give

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday. Look, there are certain companies that guard

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Speaker 1: fact that the open market is what the open market is. Right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you have to get what you're worth.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's and that's you know, that's part of

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Speaker 2: sure in these talks and what's been going on with Jalen,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they've been talking about this for a while.

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Speaker 1: Well, and so much of what we heard around Brady

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Speaker 1: So it's it's hard for me and looking at Jaylen

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Speaker 1: always said the music business, there were three reasons you

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Speaker 1: So that's like the music business mindset. Well maybe for

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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying on the bus, Jason, I.

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Speaker 1: Should I could have picked another I didn't pick the maps.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's that, but I think it's it's all

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Speaker 1: the context around it with quarterbacks particularly, and what what

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Speaker 1: here and say, well, yeah, look, you know the Browns

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Speaker 1: They should all do what you know, what Brady did

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of teams with quarterbacks on rookie contracts that

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Speaker 1: don't win Super Bowls. So like there is no clear

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Speaker 2: him having anything left, he has something left. And so

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Speaker 2: this is a perfect match style player team. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to see what he does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the defensive side of it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really interesting to me because Mike McDonald is now

436
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, which is gonna

437
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Speaker 1: be great. But Ravens fans, we're fans. I shouldn't say

438
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Speaker 1: Ravens players were really open. I thought last year about

439
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Speaker 1: the fact that part of the reason the defense clicked

440
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Speaker 1: is that it took them a minute to figure out

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Speaker 1: his system and what they wanted to what he wanted

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Speaker 1: them to do in that which we don't talk enough about.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I get really nervous. Even when you

444
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Speaker 1: have an established coordinator coming in that everybody knows and loves,

445
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Speaker 1: I still look around and say, yeah, but change can

446
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Speaker 1: sometimes take a few weeks, a few months. It takes

447
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Speaker 1: a minute to get guys on the same page. Even

448
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Speaker 1: if they played a lot of ball together, they still

449
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Speaker 1: got to figure that stuff out. Like, that's not a

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Speaker 1: given for me in this process. So I am genuinely

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Speaker 1: interested to see if the defense holds up there under

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Speaker 1: the bargain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense is going to be interesting. Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the when you're bringing a new defensive coordinator or

455
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Speaker 2: a new coordinator in general, it does take time. And

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Speaker 2: I think not even just under the understanding this game.

457
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Speaker 2: It's understanding how he wants to call the game. It's

458
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Speaker 2: understanding how he calls the game in certain situations, and

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Speaker 2: it's some familiarity that has to take place there.

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Speaker 3: And so yes, it will take some time to click.

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Speaker 3: And even if even if it clicked.

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Speaker 2: Early, there's gonna be a lull there where there's there's

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Speaker 2: an adjustment period of how that how that marriage is

464
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Speaker 2: going to work between the defensive coordinator and the defense.

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Speaker 2: So I do want to see what happens with them

466
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Speaker 2: and see if they regress a little bit. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, with with that safety out there in

468
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Speaker 2: Baltimore and Kyle Hamilton and those guys, and and him

469
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Speaker 2: going into year three and him becoming more of a

470
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Speaker 2: leader on that defense and being able to show what

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Speaker 2: he does day in and day out, I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: see what he does and in this next year and

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Speaker 2: see if that defense can build and become even more

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Speaker 2: dominant with him, with him being a leader there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a fine final one because we talked

476
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Speaker 1: so much about the things that need to improve. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, the Ravens have been so good yea

478
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Speaker 1: in the regular season, and I don't want to devalue

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Speaker 1: I just I refuse as a person to devalue the

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Speaker 1: regular season the way so often the NBA does. Like

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Speaker 1: to me, if Dak has had struggles in the playoffs,

482
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that he

483
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Speaker 1: was second in the MVP voting for the regular season,

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Speaker 1: Like that is not a bad quarterback. Like a team

485
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Speaker 1: that goes out and wins twelve thirteen, fourteen games is

486
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Speaker 1: not a bad football team. It's a team that's got

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Speaker 1: to figure a couple of things out in order to

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Speaker 1: fly in the postseason the way they want to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dak stuff is so it's so interesting because

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Speaker 2: we talk about who a person is and what their

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Speaker 2: value is. Right if you talk about Dak and when

492
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Speaker 2: he Dak first came into the league, he was a

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Speaker 2: fourth round pick. This wasn't somebody that we thought was

494
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Speaker 2: going to be a superstar anyway. So he's exceeded expectations.

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Speaker 2: But then when you get to a value number with

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Speaker 2: the contract, and then you start being put in situations

497
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Speaker 2: where now you have contemporaries and that number says that

498
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Speaker 2: you should do this, or you should have a championship

499
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Speaker 2: with all these things.

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Speaker 3: Then we devalue the player.

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Speaker 2: And the person in that in that instance, right, And

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Speaker 2: so I think Dak has been really good and really

503
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Speaker 2: good quarterback in the NFL. Is it's a really good

504
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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. It doesn't matter regular season playoffs,

505
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Speaker 2: any of that. That's what it is. But then once

506
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Speaker 2: you get the postseason play obviously at that point we

507
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Speaker 2: are worried about who wins the championship. So it's just

508
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Speaker 2: one of those things where it's kind of skewed. Dak's

509
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Speaker 2: been good. He needs to get over humped, not just him,

510
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Speaker 2: but also his team, and so we put all the

511
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Speaker 2: blame and all the negative vitriol towards him. But it's

512
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Speaker 2: more than him. It's his team, and so we got

513
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Speaker 2: to see what they can do as a team to

514
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Speaker 2: kind of advance and get past that that early exit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna say, I remember when

516
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Speaker 1: everybody was loudly screaming Peyton Manny couldn't win the big one.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 1: That isn't part of the conversation on Peyton Manning anymore, right, Like,

519
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Speaker 1: it's amazing how different at one game that's actually controlled

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Speaker 1: by fifty three active players on each roster. Yes, not

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Speaker 1: one quarterback, but it's amazing how one game changes the

522
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Speaker 1: way we talk about one quarterback forever.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. Now, I remember Peyton Manning early on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people thought he was gonna be a bus.

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Speaker 2: I mean he threw more interceptions that he did touchdowns

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Speaker 2: in his first season, right, I mean, I'm throwing the

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Speaker 2: bus word out there. I don't think anybody thought he'd

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Speaker 2: be a bus but he had. He had a not

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Speaker 2: so good rookie season, right, and so there were still

530
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Speaker 2: questions and doubts, and so you know, he gets over

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Speaker 2: the hump he still has, like you said, was having

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Speaker 2: a hard time beating New England and getting over to

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Speaker 2: hump in those in those seasons from like five to seven,

534
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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he breaks through wins

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Speaker 2: and wins a couple and now he's you know, he's

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Just just remember it was oh, he can't even

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Speaker 1: beat Florida. Okay, we're coming at a lot from the

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Speaker 1: TI Rack doc on his collus the Ravens. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it was. It went all over the place. Everybody,

541
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Speaker 1: yeld it. The Ravens aren't the only interesting team coming

542
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Speaker 1: into training camp. There's a couple of Super Bowl contenders

543
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Speaker 1: that I'm also curious if we're maybe over hyping. We'll

544
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Speaker 1: break that down, but first, Manzie's gonna get us caught

545
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Speaker 1: off on everything going on? Manzi? What's going on? Hi?

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Speaker 6: Fellas, Happy Sunday? How are we great?

547
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Speaker 1: Time? Great?

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Speaker 6: I'm good, Jason. I have a bone to pick with you.

549
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I just saw a video that you posted on

551
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Speaker 7: Twitter of you throwing the ball to your dog, annabel Yeah.

552
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Speaker 6: Why can't I see Annabelle? Like, why is she not

553
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Speaker 6: in your video?

554
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Speaker 1: This is a very okay, I'm glad you asked me. Yes,

555
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: this is a very true story. I hate put photos

556
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Speaker 1: videos of myself. I would passionately hate anything that I'm in.

557
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: So all I ever posted, particularly on Instagram, is videos

558
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Speaker 1: of her. So somebody yesterday was like, will you like

559
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Speaker 1: put yourself on any of these? And I was like, Okay.

560
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Speaker 1: So today I was just like, I'm sitting there, I'm

561
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball for I was like, I'll post one

562
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Speaker 1: of me, and now you are raising the very thing.

563
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Speaker 1: See like people want Annel, they don't want me.

564
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Speaker 6: I canna lie to you. I want Annabel. I'm not

565
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Speaker 6: saying you can be in it too, but can we

566
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Speaker 6: just have both of you, not just one or the other.

567
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Speaker 1: We chase is the orange bowl, brings me the orange ball.

568
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Speaker 1: She races for the Orange Bowl. I can't get her

569
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Speaker 1: to stop there for a picture. You got to follow

570
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Speaker 1: me on Instagram.

571
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 6: No, that's what this is. So this is my problem.

572
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Speaker 6: I'm not following you on Instagram.

573
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Speaker 7: And so I literally was like Annabel and I immediately

574
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Speaker 7: went to Annabel the Doll.

575
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Speaker 6: And then I was like, oh no, he's throwing a

576
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Speaker 6: ball to a dog. Yeah, Annabel Doll. I love that movie.

577
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Speaker 6: That movie is so good.

578
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Speaker 1: So I'm a horror movie finato. Yeah. Yeah. I got

579
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Speaker 1: her in October and not black Dog. I was like,

580
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna name her after a Halloween character, So it

581
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: was between Sydney from Scream. I almost named her Sid

582
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Speaker 1: and then instead I went Annabel because she just it

583
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Speaker 1: just seemed to fit him more. I thought I might

584
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Speaker 1: shorten it at some point, but now she is Annabel.

585
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Speaker 6: I love that. I love that. And you're gonna get

586
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Speaker 6: a follower in just a couple of seconds.

587
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Speaker 1: On Instagram fits on Instagram.

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Speaker 6: Give me, give me one minute, let me give you

589
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Speaker 6: an updake.

590
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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, Well, I'm gonna start with the unfortunate, sad

591
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Speaker 7: news out of the NFL that was reported by the

592
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Speaker 7: Baltimore Sun.

593
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Speaker 6: Former Ravens receiver.

594
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Speaker 7: Jacoby Jones has passed away at the age of forty.

595
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 7: KPRC television out of Houston reports that he died overnight

596
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 7: in his sleep at his home. No cause of death

597
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 7: has been announced yet. He did play nine seasons in

598
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Speaker 7: the NFL. He was part of the Super Bowl team

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Speaker 7: in twenty thirteen, where the Ravens defeated the forty nine

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Speaker 7: Ers thirty four two thirty one. Never a good way

601
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Speaker 7: to transition out of that. But other NFL news, the

602
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Speaker 7: NFL Network reports that the Bengals and star wide receiver

603
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Speaker 7: T Higgins will not do an extension by Monday's deadline.

604
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Speaker 7: I think everybody was expecting that he already signed his

605
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Speaker 7: franchise tag. He's going to play on it, but apparently

606
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Speaker 7: he's going to be a top free agent in the

607
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five offseason. In Major League Baseball, Gunner Henderson

608
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Speaker 7: is getting ready for the home run Derby. He just

609
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Speaker 7: hit a two run shot and the Orioles of taking

610
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Speaker 7: the lead.

611
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Speaker 6: Over the Yankees.

612
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Speaker 7: It's two to one bottom of the third inning in Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: Out of Wimbledon, Carlos alca Az does it again.

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Speaker 7: He defeated Novak Djokovic for the second straight year, this

615
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Speaker 7: time in straight sets. It was his second Grand Slam

616
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Speaker 7: win this year, the fourth of his career and he's

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Speaker 7: only twenty one. And the twenty twenty four year old

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Speaker 7: championship between Spain and England that's gonna kick off on

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Speaker 7: Fox TV at three Eastern.

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Speaker 6: Then later today the Copa America.

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Speaker 7: Final between Colombia and Argentina that kicks off at eight

622
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Speaker 7: eastern and you can catch all that action also on

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Speaker 7: Fox TV.

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Speaker 5: Back to you, guys, Colombia and Columbia, Columbia and Argentina and.

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Speaker 7: Argentina, Argentina, Argentina.

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Speaker 6: And Jason fits follow follow at that literally.

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Speaker 1: All right, now we can continue with the show. You

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Speaker 1: guys should do the same. By the way, you follow

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Speaker 1: me on it's at chas if it's a carry what's

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Speaker 1: your what's your Instagram? Carrie?

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Speaker 3: This is my name, Carrie Roads.

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Speaker 1: That's ry at Carry twenty five Roads on tong Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you. I'll tell you a story about that.

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Speaker 1: Then after the break, Oh no, you can tell me.

635
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Speaker 3: Oh we got that. Hell yeah no.

636
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: So I got off Twitter a long time ago and

637
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Speaker 2: tried to get back on log on.

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Speaker 3: Somebody took Carry Roads, so I had.

639
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Speaker 2: To figure out a way to keep Carry Roads and

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Speaker 2: also add a little thing in there.

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Speaker 3: And it was twenty five and my number. It just

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Speaker 3: made sense.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that was why somebody took it. Somebody stole

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Speaker 2: my handle.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I originally was not

646
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: at Jason Fitz on Twitter. And when like one of

647
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Speaker 1: the few times that I've ever tried to flex a

648
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: little muscle and it actually worked, when the band I

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Speaker 1: was in had the number one song on every chart

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Speaker 1: in America at the time, that one of the few

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Speaker 1: things I did was I like, I had our social

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Speaker 1: media people at the record label go to Twitter and

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can you help me? Because whoever

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Speaker 1: had taken Jason Fitz wasn't really active, and like a

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Speaker 1: week later, I woke up and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I was at Jason Fitz. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie like it felt good this one. I felt good.

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Speaker 3: That's big time, big time, Jason.

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Speaker 1: Forget Hits. I just wanted my check mark with my

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Speaker 1: name on it. That's all I That's all I really

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Speaker 1: want to Sometimes you just want a little recognition. T

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Speaker 1: Higgins wants a recognition and form of a long term

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Speaker 1: contract with the Bengals. It's been reported he will not

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Speaker 1: sign an extension with Cincinnati, which means, obviously, after this year,

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Speaker 1: his time with the Bengals, as we mostly expect, it

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Speaker 1: is gonna come to an end. But the Bengals, to me,

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Speaker 1: carry are kind of interesting because here's the thing, like

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Speaker 1: I could if you wanted to talk me into, Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow is gonna be healthy, and he's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow that we've seen and it's gonna be electric

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Speaker 1: and amazing. And by the way, this offense is gonna

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Speaker 1: come together and Lou and Arrumo will have the defense

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Speaker 1: back where it was a couple of years ago. If

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Speaker 1: you wanted to talk me into all of that and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals being in the Super Bowl, I could buy it.

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Speaker 1: But if you also wanted to talk me into man,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals always invest in the offensive line, it never works.

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Speaker 1: T Higgins isn't gonna be particularly happy for a lot

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Speaker 1: of this year. Is he gonna protect his body? God

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Speaker 1: only knows. Joe Burrow can't stay healthy. I mean it's

681
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Speaker 1: time to say injury prone around Joe Burrow and this

682
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Speaker 1: defense last year took a massive step back. The Bengals

683
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Speaker 1: are going to continue to decline and it's gonna get

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Speaker 1: really desperate. You could talk me into that too. I

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Speaker 1: think the Bengals are actually more interesting this year than

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Speaker 1: a lot of people want to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bengals are, in my opinion, the best team

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Speaker 2: in that division, even with even with Burroughs healthy right

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Speaker 2: at this moment, and so I think you.

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Speaker 3: Can look at it either either way.

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Speaker 2: They do have potential obviously, and if Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 2: at his best, we we saw what we saw what

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Speaker 2: can happen, right, But as of right now, really in

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Speaker 2: that division in the AFC North, I mean I have

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Speaker 2: the Ravens first, have the Browns second in a close second,

696
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Speaker 2: and I have the Bengals third and and obviously Pittsburgh

697
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Speaker 2: is Pittsburgh. I mean, if Russell Russell Wilson can play, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, they'll be right in the mix in there

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Speaker 2: somewhere as well. So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they won't pay t Higgins is also interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy has been super you know, super productive.

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Speaker 2: He's there, he's their number two guy, and without him,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously Chase isn't getting as free as he

704
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Speaker 2: would like to. And so that combination, it's just funny. Man,

705
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Speaker 2: you need to start taking care of these guys. And

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Speaker 2: if he goes to another team and it becomes number

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Speaker 2: one with another team, he's gonna play well. And so

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Speaker 2: you talk about him obviously going into this year maybe

709
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Speaker 2: trying not to get hurt. I see him having a

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Speaker 2: big year and playing really well and trying to get paid.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I think you're probably right about that too.

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Speaker 1: And the hard part is the argument, well, we just

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Speaker 1: can't pay everybody is harder and harder to absorb when

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Speaker 1: you see teams like Philadelphia turning around and paying their

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Speaker 1: quarterback and their wide receivers, right, like, there are teams

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Speaker 1: that are making this happen. So if the Bengals argument was, man,

718
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Speaker 1: we just can't afford to put that much money into

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. If I'm t if I'm agent,

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Speaker 1: if I'm his agent, if I'm his camp, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, I'm looking over and saying, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I would love to know why you feel you cannot

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's that whole thing is such a

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Speaker 2: cop out.

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Speaker 3: We can't afford to pay everybody.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've obviously seen you pay who you want

728
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Speaker 2: to have around and you make sure that happens, right,

729
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Speaker 2: so it can happen. You gotta be sometimes you got

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Speaker 2: to be a little creative and making that happen. But

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Speaker 2: there are ways around making this happen. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: that's you can't say that to to anybody that's been

733
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Speaker 2: around the sport long enough to know, and.

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Speaker 3: You can't say it anymore.

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Speaker 2: That's just not a feasible, feasible approach to acknowledging that

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Speaker 2: you know this guy isn't paid yet, or we can't

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Speaker 2: do this. It just you can't do it now to Higgins,

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Speaker 2: deserves to be to be paid.

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Speaker 1: Man. Even twenty years ago, Tim Brown said, teams will

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Speaker 1: use this salary cap to get rid of you if

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Speaker 1: they don't want you, and they'll find a way to

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Speaker 1: keep you if they do. That was twenty years here,

743
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Speaker 1: Like we are so much smarter as a fan base,

744
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: Like we went from never really knowing these things and

745
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Speaker 1: understanding these things to having twenty websites we can go

746
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Speaker 1: that will break down who gets paid what and what

747
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Speaker 1: happens if this guy gets cut after this date. Like

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Speaker 1: it's amazing how smart we've all gotten. It's just funny

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Speaker 1: to me that this comes back to the way we

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Speaker 1: open the whole show, like the way most fans look

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Speaker 1: at it. Instead of looking at their favorite organization and

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Speaker 1: owners and saying like man up yours sign him? They

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Speaker 1: instead they turn around and say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamarica less and that it's like they shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to there's a way to do like guess who

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Speaker 1: makes all the money. It never has to take less

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Speaker 1: the ownership groups, like I don't understand this. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, even if the ownership groups, because of the

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Speaker 1: way the salary cap works, like it's it's forty nine

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Speaker 1: percent of the money they make, right like, so it's

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Speaker 1: it's not even like there's a variable here. The money

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Speaker 1: has to be spent. The owners always make them an

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: Carry I'm on a soapbo Jason.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, Just just take care, take care

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Speaker 2: of the guys that are bringing your organization money, take

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Speaker 2: care of the guys that are helping you win.

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Speaker 3: And t Higgins is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: We're coming at your live from the Tirack dot com studios.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals interesting, but there's another team that's off the

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Speaker 1: radar that could turn into a wildly interesting team. Could

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Speaker 1: we be saying playoffs? We'll talk about it next Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. He's carry Roads. I'm Jason. He's carry Roads.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitzcher. Listening to Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Follow us on Twitter at Jason fitz at

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Speaker 1: Carrie twenty five Roads. Follow us on Instagram. Somebody already

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Speaker 1: did I got the immediately. Where's the picture of Annabelle?

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Speaker 1: So I posted a picture from this morning of annabel

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Speaker 1: because Carrie, I do you have dogs? Carry? Are a dog?

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Speaker 3: No dog? Guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean I do love dogs, but no dog, no

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Speaker 2: dog on my on my end right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Annabel is basically my life. And while I

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Speaker 1: was in the shower today, she decided that she was

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Speaker 1: gonna lay on the shower mat, like right where the

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Speaker 1: door opens. So I opened the door and I reached

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Speaker 1: out onto the sink, grab the phone, took a picture

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Speaker 1: because I'm sitting there and I'm like this, how I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna die? Like I gotta walk over the shower mat

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Speaker 1: with the cold tile floor with my feet wet, like

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't dry him. I'm not like a

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Speaker 1: particularly bendy, flexible guy that's suddenly just like getting myself

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Speaker 1: dry in the shower without having to do something, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I gotta figure my way around this. And then

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Speaker 1: the whole time I'm thinking I'm gonna step over, My

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Speaker 1: foot's gonna hit the floor, it's gonna slide out from

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Speaker 1: under me. I'm gonna die. That's how luckily, as you

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Speaker 1: can tell, I didn't get you're here. But Annabel also

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Speaker 1: did not move, let me tell you, man, Like she

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Speaker 1: just sat there. She watched me walk over, and she

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Speaker 1: was just like, well done. I appreciate that that that's

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Speaker 1: that's the joy of owning a dog. Like she's trained me.

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Speaker 1: I haven't trained her.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, who am I going to impress today?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna impress impress Annabelle today. That's what it starts there,

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Speaker 2: stars and ends with annabel I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my whole conversations during the day, Like, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a life. Okay, we're coming that to

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Speaker 1: live from the tyraq dot com studios. I want to

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Speaker 1: give you a team because the Ravens rookies reporting to

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Speaker 1: training camp have me thinking about sort of our expectations.

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Speaker 1: I want to give you a team that I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of. And I again,

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Speaker 1: I think this could go horribly wrong, or we could

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Speaker 1: certainly sit around and say, oh my god. And it's

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Speaker 1: all because we don't know what to expect. To the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't think most of us know who Will Levis

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Speaker 1: really is as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 1: And as a result, I think right now, anybody that

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Speaker 1: tells you they know definitively what the Titans are going

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Speaker 1: to be this year are kind of lion Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know Bill Callahan as a coach. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Will Levis is a quarterback with these weapons around him,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the running game looks like without

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry. Like there's just there are so many maybes

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Speaker 1: that I just don't know how to sort of categorize

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Speaker 1: the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Woof the Titans. I think they're going to be bad.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I mean, Levis shows some flashes in

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Speaker 2: the year. He's obviously a big, big, big kid, strong,

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Speaker 2: strong kid, can can make the throws, competitive toughness there.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see that team. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: getting outside, getting off the Derrick Henry train will give

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Speaker 2: them a chance to really see what they are and

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Speaker 2: who they can be. But like you said, it's it's

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Speaker 2: a it's such a big unknown at the moment, and

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Speaker 2: I think these this is one of those teams that,

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Speaker 2: though that can come out of the what works and

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Speaker 2: play okay because the expectations aren't there. And so when

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Speaker 2: you start out with you know, no expectations from the

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Speaker 2: outside world, you get you get a chance to bond,

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00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: and you get a chance to get to work, and

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Speaker 2: you actually get a chance to put together game plans

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Speaker 2: and schemes, not you know, based off of what you

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Speaker 2: have that can really accentuate your talent as you move on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they were a pro heavy Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: play action, take some shots with Tanny Hill. But now

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to divide something totally different. So it'll

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Speaker 2: be interesting to see what they come up with. But

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Speaker 2: as of now, yeah, I don't really I wouldn't put

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Speaker 2: too much stock into the Titans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was a little surprised that they didn't

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Speaker 1: at least explore quarterback in the draft this year. New

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Speaker 1: regime would have thought. But I think the logic and

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Speaker 1: the way they've built the roster actually makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. Let's go out and get as many weapons

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Speaker 1: as we can right now and just see if will

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Speaker 1: Levis has got it, and if he doesn't, then we

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Speaker 1: know the cup bait next year. The problem is next

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Speaker 1: year's draft classes we've talked about last week isn't particularly great.

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00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here saying, like, look, fans, Titans fans

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Speaker 1: right now are automatically thinking, they address jac Latham, addresses

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You've got a quarterback that's coming from

865
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or a coach that I should say that's coming

866
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, and you've got a quarterback that showed some flashes,

867
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: there's a reason for hope. I just also think that

868
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: if you played the shoes on the other foot game

869
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: and say, okay, well, but what's the flip side of it.

870
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't love relying on a rookie in the draft

871
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: to be the number one offensive line that I can

872
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: rely on from day one to be absolutely everything. I'm

873
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: not sure I love Will Levis. I mean, I don't

874
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: think that people are talking about Will Levis the same

875
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: way they're even talking about let's say Bryce Young right

876
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: now and Bryce Shung, and the people are saying, well,

877
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: should we be cat up on Bryce Shung? So I'm

878
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: not sure I love Will Levis. And I just a

879
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: first time head coach always cares me because they don't know

880
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: what they don't know yet, Like a hey, coaches, sometimes

881
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: it works, sometimes it doesn't. The majority of the time,

882
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: a new head coach ends up getting fired. So like

883
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: it's just hard man.

884
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Titan situation is you said, like even bringing

885
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: in a new quarterback in the draft this year. I

886
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: mean they did that too. They did that two years

887
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: in a row, right, I mean they did Malik Willis.

888
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: That didn't work out, then they bringing Will Levis and

889
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: so to go quarterback again would have been just maybe

890
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: a lot.

891
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: But again you I guess.

892
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: With Levis, we did see some, like you said, some

893
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: positive some positive stuff during the season, and I do

894
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: want to see what he can do being the full

895
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: time guy. I just don't have I don't I don't

896
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in what he can do

897
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: at the moment, but that can change.

898
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm also a little bit on the incomplete mode on

899
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the Colts too, like last year and did such a

900
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: beautiful job. Like the knock on Anthony Richardson coming in

901
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: was that he needed tape, he needed experience, and like

902
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: the worst part of that injury last year was that

903
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: he didn't get the game reps. I think he needs,

904
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, to even know what he truly looks like

905
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: in here.

906
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: Two Yeah, And it's it's crazy because he was starting,

907
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: he was looking pretty good right when he played, and

908
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: the time he had he was making plays.

909
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: He was doing the things that we thought he could do.

910
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: We could he could run the ball, he could you know,

911
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: get the tough yards, he can make some throws and

912
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: and he to me, honestly, he actually outperformed what I

913
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: thought he would do early on in the year, So

914
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: so it sucked, but yeah, I want to see what

915
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: he can do. And theyre there's a lot of questions

916
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 2: man surrounding certain teams in the quarterback positions.

917
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and the quarterback position, you know, like sometimes

918
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: it feels like oversimplification. It isn't like we we are

919
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: in a world where you know, frankly, when you talk

920
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: about the way we judge the teams right now, because

921
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: the best teams have quarterbacks situations that are not just stable,

922
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: they have stars. It's hard for anybody to know what

923
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: to expect until we know what categor where your quarterback

924
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: has put in. And that's just being fair in the

925
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: conversation of an AFC that also has a Joe Burrow

926
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: and a Patrick Mahomes and a Josh Allen and you know,

927
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: let's see what looks like this year for Justin Herbert.

928
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: So the amount of quarterbacks that are proven entities is

929
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Speaker 1: just going to continue to change the conversation. Speaking of quarterbacks,

930
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: we all loved the show Quarterback on Netflix. It got

931
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: everybody infatuated. Well receiver does too, but it may have

932
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: us sleeping on one team coming in next year. We'll

933
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Speaker 1: talk about it next on Fox Sports Sunday. Jason Fitz

934
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: Kerry Rhoads, he's carry Roads. I'm Jason fitz It's Fox

935
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. And look, there's no real football happening, but

936
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: the entire world is infatuated with Netflix Football. But maybe

937
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: there's a lesson we can take away from Netflix Football.

938
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Speaker 1: Maybe we learned something and Receiver, we were reminded of

939
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: something during the series Receiver that we need to remember

940
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Speaker 1: going into this year. We're broadcasting live from the ti

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Speaker 1: iraq dot com studios. Tyrack dot com will help you

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Speaker 1: com the way tire buying should be. Carrie, I was

945
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about receiver because you know

946
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: more about receivers than most, having to deal with them

947
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: and shut them down on the field. But before we

948
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: do that, Moncy just told us about the Wimbledon result.

949
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Twitter and I see my buddy

950
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: Michael Luke Junior out here talks about how the the

951
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Wimbledon trophy is perfect. I looked it up it's boring.

952
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Are you like, are you a boring trophy? Like? Like,

953
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: to me, the Wimbledon trophies just look like somebody like

954
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: somebody went to a trophy shop and got something made

955
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and you threw it up on the on the on

956
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: the shelf. Like I like my trophies to be a

957
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: little bit more elaborate. Where are your what's your stance

958
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: on trophies? Carrie?

959
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. The Wimbledon trophy is really good.

960
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: It's just it's it breeds like it it's it's it's

961
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: it's audacious, it's big, it's like a big old cup.

962
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot of gold.

963
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: It's SAME's fancy, right, it doesn't the same it doesn't

964
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: the same fancies to you, Jason.

965
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like it's ornate and the women's

966
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: trophy looks like just a plate like let's be Oh,

967
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: you're like, what am I using that as a charger?

968
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Am I putting that for a Chacuter report? What am

969
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I doing?

970
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: Are you sending out subliminals?

971
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: That's right, Like, we gotta fix that, Wimbledon.

972
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Let's go.

973
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm a fan of the Stanley Cup.

974
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: It's huge, like you could drink out of it, or

975
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, go to the bathroom minute, whatever you want

976
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: to do, Like the minute. If you walk into a

977
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: room from all the way across the room, you know

978
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: that Lord Stanley's Cup is there. Or if you look

979
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: at the Lombardi Trophy, like the Lombardi Trophy when you

980
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl and they have that whole

981
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: setup where they have all the different super Bowl trophies,

982
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: they just there's a there's a shininess or to it.

983
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: Even the Larry O'Brien in the NBA, like the ball

984
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: sitting on the rim. I love all that, Like there's

985
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: so much part to all of those trophies. The Wimbledon

986
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: one just looks like, you know, I won a local

987
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: country club tournament.

988
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: I'm out. That's what you get from a wow. I get.

989
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: I get all this is from it. It's it's especially

990
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: the men's it's it's it's bigger. You got to hold

991
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: it with two hands. It looks a little gaudy, it

992
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: looks kind and heavy. You know it some substance there.

993
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: If you walked into a room and you saw it,

994
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: it would catch your attention. I would think, you know

995
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: what I mean?

996
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know, Jason.

997
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: I agree with the designs of the of the Stanley

998
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: and and and obviously, you know, in football you get

999
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: to see the football. It's a thing. You kind of

1000
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: know what it is when you see it. So maybe

1001
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: you're right with not knowing what it is. But I

1002
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: think it catches your attention though.

1003
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: Moncey, any thoughts on the Wimbledon trophy? Where are we

1004
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: on the trophy from Wimbledon and its greatness?

1005
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: Moncey's in there talking to Steve right.

1006
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: Montes he left, Monty left. That's what I'm sitting here saying.

1007
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: The Wimbledon trophy good that you're listening to the show.

1008
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 7: Just got here, and I breing burritos, So he's getting

1009
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 7: his burrito. I bring burritos every Sunday, so she should

1010
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 7: come on Sundays.

1011
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: You know what. So here's the thing. Burrito is great.

1012
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: The Wimbledon trophy, the Wimbledon trophy just doesn't. It's not

1013
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: as im as I want a trophy like that to be, Monsy.

1014
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 6: Why what is it? Is it uncomfortable because it's like.

1015
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Not, Well, the women's one is basically a plate, which

1016
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: is just awful, right, and the men's one is just like,

1017
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks like I went to a

1018
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: trophy shop and I was like, hey, make me an

1019
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: ornate country club turn the trophy. Like it's just it

1020
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same sleekness to it or the same

1021
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: grandeur of it. Like the Stanley Cup isn't sleek, but

1022
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: it's huge, right, and it's got this legend aura around it.

1023
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1024
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: The Lombardi is sleek. You hold it up, even though

1025
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: it's one hand, You hold it up and it just

1026
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: it looks like you were holding up something from the gods.

1027
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Like the Larry O'Brien looks cool because of the colorization

1028
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: on it and the way it's sitting on the rim

1029
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: and the gold. It's just it's perfect. The Women to

1030
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: one just looks like a cup. It's like, congratulations, this

1031
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: is your this is your victory cup.

1032
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 7: Really, I feel like there's so much detail to it

1033
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 7: that it just like it looks very like old.

1034
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: Like it like it's like it's been around for years. Classic.

1035
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 6: That's what it looks like to me.

1036
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 7: I I feel like it's more like uncomfortable to carry.

1037
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 6: Like I'm just carrying around right now, Carrie.

1038
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, Like I think it's more uncomfortable than anything.

1039
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 6: But I actually think it looks quite regal and like royal,

1040
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: if that makes sense.

1041
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: You know Jason too, I know, Look, Jason, you can

1042
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: you can only get one thing.

1043
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: You can get a follow or her listening to the show.

1044
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: Which one do you want?

1045
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'll take the follow. That's where like, look,

1046
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: you guys are wrong. You can tweet us, by the

1047
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: way at Jason Git's at carried twenty five rounds. Let

1048
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: us know if you think the Wibbledon trophy is overrated,

1049
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: because I certainly do. But you've both made a good point.

1050
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: It's ornate and I don't like. So this is the

1051
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: counter that happens in culture, right, like whatever your parents overdid,

1052
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: as the next generation, you seem to want nothing to

1053
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: do with. So like the two things that my parents

1054
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: were all in on like anything antique. So they were

1055
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: buy like any antique piece of junk and just cram

1056
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: it in the house, borderline hoarders with all this antique

1057
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: stuff around, so like I own virtually nothing that's old.

1058
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: And then my mom had like plants everywhere. I cannot stay.

1059
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: If I walk into a house and there's plants, I

1060
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: might come out I'm out, Like, I don't have a

1061
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: single living thing in my house other than me and Annabel, Like,

1062
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: there's no plants, there's no any of it. So when

1063
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: you guys say, oh, it's ornate, Nichola's historic, and it's old,

1064
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: those are all the things I hate. That makes sense.

1065
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: Carriy like, I'm out on this because of my culture.

1066
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 6: Well, it's a good thing. You're not gonna win one.

1067
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 6: Tell me about it.

1068
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: That's all it is.

1069
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're getting attack there. And also I'm going

1070
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: to say, you just live in your rebel stage. That's okay,

1071
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: you can live it. It can be a little later,

1072
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: but you're being in your rebellious stage.

1073
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: I get it.

1074
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm late forties. It's probably a little late

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00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: for that. Exactly, here we go, we're coming that to

1076
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: live from the Tirak dot com studios. Rebellious would would

1077
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: describe wide receivers. But here's the thing. I binged watched

1078
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: receiver only to find out that by the way, cause

1079
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: I do some digital work on the side for fun

1080
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: with the Raiders every once in a while, my favorite team,

1081
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: they used one of my audio clips in episodes, So

1082
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: go back and check it out because I was sitting

1083
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: there watching it with Annabell, might have might have had

1084
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: an edible or two, and all of a sudden I

1085
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: heard my voice and I was like, what the hell

1086
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm hearing myself. But here's a funny thing. I walked

1087
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: away from that saying, man, I think we have forgotten

1088
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: just how good the Detroit Lions were last year. Like

1089
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown with that whole offense and

1090
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the swagger they were playing with and the way they

1091
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: were beating teams. I think somewhere along the way we

1092
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: have like we thought it was a cute story last

1093
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: year because it's the Lions. They've never done it. And

1094
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: as I watched Receiver, I thought, man, I think we

1095
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: might be undervaluing them coming into the season this year.

1096
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1097
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, they've built something special with

1098
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. Obviously we could kind of see that brewing

1099
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: and for it to come to a head last year

1100
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: where they legit had a chance to make it to

1101
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and you know a couple of players

1102
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: here and there, you know, changes changed the outcome of that.

1103
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: And so really good team, really deep team, very physical team,

1104
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: all the formula, all the pieces of formula that you

1105
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: need to be to be successful in that league, and

1106
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: so I'm excited to see what they do and this year,

1107
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: hopefully they don't take a step back and they continue

1108
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: to ride that wave. But now it comes to a

1109
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: point of can you be consistent and do this at

1110
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 2: a high level consistently? And I think that's the question

1111
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: that's going to be answered here really soon.

1112
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's interesting that consistency is the bar. Yeah,

1113
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: because I think the other team that I really sat

1114
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: here and said, man was watching because they also followed

1115
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Debo and George Kittle, seeing so much of the forty

1116
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: nine ers and seeing even the forty nine er players

1117
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: acquiesce like, man, we've been good. But this feels different, right,

1118
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Like you think about how stinking good they were for

1119
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: the majority of last year. They went their little lull

1120
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: in the middle when Diebo was hurt, but how stinking

1121
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: good they were last year, And it really feels like

1122
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: as much as we sit here and as a society

1123
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: we obsess over a team like the Cowboys, and we're

1124
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the Eagles right now, and we're

1125
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the NFC North obviously for good reason.

1126
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a few minutes, but

1127
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: right now I'm looking at it and saying, Man, the

1128
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers in the Lions were kind of the

1129
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: clear cut to cream of the crop teams in the

1130
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: NFC and maybe the NFL for the majority of last year.

1131
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: They were.

1132
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: But I'm going to throw in another team that's going

1133
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: to challenge them this year, and I think that's they're

1134
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: going to take a step forward. It's going to be

1135
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, and I know we're we're going

1136
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: to talk about that division a little bit later, but

1137
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what they do and and to

1138
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: see just how Jordan Love progresses in this second year

1139
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: being a starter, because down the stretch, I mean, he

1140
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: was so good down the stretch last year, and so

1141
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see him. But yes, as far as

1142
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: last year goes, the Lions and the forty nine Ers

1143
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: were definitely the toast of the NFC.

1144
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Well, and if you watch just the camaraderie they all had,

1145
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: the brotherhood they all had, which is something that that's

1146
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: the one thing we could keep an eye on right

1147
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: now when we're starting O ta's and you're watching your

1148
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: favorite team, look for does it feel different because so often,

1149
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: and you know this, how often are we here after

1150
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: a championship, whatever sport we're talking about, somebody from the

1151
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: team comes out and says, man, there was just a

1152
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: special bond this year. And I genuinely believe that your

1153
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: odds of winning a championship increase if you can get

1154
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: everybody fighting for each other in any sport in a

1155
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: different way.

1156
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: In that locker room, you have to like the guy.

1157
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: You gotta like the guys you're going a battle with

1158
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: every day. I mean, you're around these guys so much

1159
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: in a short amount of time. It's not like the

1160
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: word it's drawn out right because there's gonna be roster

1161
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: changes at the end of the year. All these things happen.

1162
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: But when you're in a season, a long season, a

1163
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: tough season, you're working hard with the person next to you.

1164
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: If you like that guy, and you like your coaches,

1165
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: and you like the people that are around you and

1166
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: that organization, it just it does wonders for your morale.

1167
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: It does wonders for your team camaraderie. And obviously, like

1168
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier, there's gonna be moments when it

1169
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: gets tough and there's gonna be moments when you know

1170
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: there's gonna be disagreements and arguments and all that stuff happens.

1171
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: But if you disagree and you argue with somebody you like,

1172
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: it's a little easier to kind of come to common

1173
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: ground on that stuff. And when you don't like people,

1174
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: it's a little harder to come to coming ground. So yes,

1175
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: it definitely matters.

1176
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Speaker 1: The funny thing is I always raise my hand y'all

1177
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: and say loudly, look, I'm five nine and a half

1178
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy pounds. What the hell do I

1179
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: know about being in an NFL locker room?

1180
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1181
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Right, Like, was not athletically gifted. But I can't tell

1182
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: you what it was like to live on a tour

1183
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: bus with you know, we have four buses out and

1184
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, for the majority of that touring life, and

1185
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: you live with twelve other human beings on a tiny bus.

1186
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: You're in and you're out for week after week after week.

1187
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: And what I tell people all the time is that

1188
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: one you could have ten great personalities, you could have

1189
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: eleven great personalities. One problem on a bus and it

1190
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: changes the entire tenor of going to work every day,

1191
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: and even when you think you've solved the problem, when

1192
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: that one person says that same thing again, everybody just

1193
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: gets riled up. And I think about what a difference

1194
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: it makes when you're just running around on stage playing

1195
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: a show. For some people, I cannot imagine the difference

1196
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: it makes when you're coordinated and moving together as a

1197
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: unit like it's just it speaks to being on the

1198
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: same page, which I think is such an underrated part

1199
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Speaker 1: of coaching. When you talk about great coaches NBA, great

1200
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: coaches NFL, they how to make sure that everybody understands

1201
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing and how they're doing it. But

1202
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: they also know how to make sure to explain to

1203
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: everybody how to come together as one. If you don't

1204
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: have that, you don't have a chance.

1205
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: And if you don't have somebody in as a leader,

1206
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: in control of that team that understands each and every individual,

1207
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: that's going to be the that's the main state, that's

1208
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: the main stay power. That's where you can unite a team,

1209
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: and you can give, you know, different players, different verbal

1210
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: communications or different ways to communicate certain things to them

1211
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: that it may not be needed for another guy. But

1212
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: understanding your unit, understanding your guys. Understanding the personalities around

1213
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: you matters so much. And so when you see teams

1214
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: again that go on those runs or have success, it's

1215
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: probably because number one.

1216
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: What we sayd they like each other.

1217
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: But also the people in charge, as I do air

1218
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: quotes in charge of that team gives the right recipe

1219
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: for all those guys as individually, because as much as

1220
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: it is a team, each individual in that team circle,

1221
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: in that team circumstance, has to do their job. And

1222
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: if they're not doing their job, just one guy, it

1223
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: messes everything up. And so it's such a tough business

1224
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: and that's why it's the ultimate team game.

1225
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: So I was the musical director for the band as well,

1226
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: and it was my job to listen back to every show.

1227
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: Is my job to make sure we were all on

1228
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: the same page. And I remember after one of our shows,

1229
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: because I came from Juilliard, like I came from a

1230
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: very harsh world of communication, that's what I respond to.

1231
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: And I walked up to our guitar player and my

1232
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: mother affed him up and down because it was a

1233
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: bad show. I just I went nuts. And then I

1234
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: walked into the drummer and I did the same thing

1235
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: because that's how I communicate, and the drummer i'd known

1236
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: for fifteen years at that point. A couple of days later,

1237
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: he still wouldn't even look me in the eye. So

1238
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: I walked up because he's like a brother to me,

1239
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: and I said, no, Boom, what's wrong? And he said, Man,

1240
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: you really hurt my heart the way you talked to

1241
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: me after that show. And I realized in that moment

1242
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: that the way I communicate would never work for him

1243
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: that way. So I had to really dial myself down

1244
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: after Badge and know that I could go up to

1245
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: the guitar player because he responded to it, and I

1246
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: could mother f him. And then I had to walk

1247
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: three feet over to the drum riser and hug boone

1248
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: and say, man, you know, we'll get him tomorrow, like

1249
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: today doesn't define anything. We'll get him tomorrow. Toughest lesson

1250
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: I ever had to learn, and leadership toughest lesson I

1251
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: ever had to learn in the road. And to your point,

1252
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing that we talk about

1253
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and leadership style, like the guy in the locker

1254
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: room has to be able to read that out. That

1255
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: is not easy to do, and not every team has it.

1256
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: It's it's the ultimate thing when it comes to team

1257
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: sports or team anything. I was what you just said

1258
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: about about the band stuff, it's one hundred percent that

1259
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: is a team. If one person isn't doing their job,

1260
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: then it sounds bad, right, And so that's where it

1261
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: gets to it. And me as a being a captain

1262
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: on my teams in New York and you know, getting

1263
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: you know, getting past myself and my own ego. And

1264
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: I think that's the number one thing as a leader

1265
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: you have to understand. It's as a leader, it's not

1266
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: about you. You're expected to do your job anyway, and

1267
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: you should do your job if you are a leader,

1268
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: So you can to counsel that out, right. So now

1269
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: it's about the other ten guys or the other eleven

1270
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: ten guys in you in your instance as well. Where

1271
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: all right, do I know this guy who's standing beside me?

1272
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: Do I know this guy who's playing with me? Okay,

1273
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: I know he's a little sensitive, Okay, this guy likes

1274
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: to be coached hard. This guy likes to be told

1275
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: what it is, no matter what, and that's all it is, right,

1276
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: But being able to identify that and identify those personalities

1277
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: are everything, and I learned that as well in New York.

1278
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a young guy. I'm twenty four or

1279
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: twenty five leading men right and I'm wearing a seat

1280
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: on my chest, and I take that very I take

1281
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: that very personal. I want to be the best at

1282
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: what that entails as well. And so you got to

1283
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: do your work and understand that. You know, everybody learns

1284
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: and everybody you know takes criticism a little bit differently.

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Speaker 1: One guy that always does the work is Davante Adams.

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: He was featured on Receiver and a lot of people

1287
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: are talking about his future. I'll tell you why everybody

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: has got it absolutely wrong. When we come back Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, He's Carry Rhodes. I'm Jason Fitz. I don't

1290
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: want to be the bearer of bad news. But sometimes

1291
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: as much as we love drama and as much as

1292
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: we love for things to just feel good because it's

1293
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: fun to talk about it, facts have to matter and

1294
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: they just keep getting in the way when it comes

1295
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: to Davante Adams. Let me be clear, I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any chance Davante Adams plays for any team other

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00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: than the Raiders during this entire NFL season. I cannot

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: be clearer than that, It's Fox Sports Sunday. He's carry

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Speaker 1: roads on, Jason Fitz. We're coming at you live from

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: the tiraq dot Com studios and carry This is all

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Speaker 1: about value, Okay, so hear me out. Last year, all

1302
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: of these Davante Adams rumors started to circulate everywhere right like,

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: people were saying, Davante's gonna go to the Jets.

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: So I took my phone book and that's I think

1306
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: one of the most important things most of us have

1307
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: in life anymore is the connections we have. So I

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00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: reached out to people smarter than me, plugged into the league,

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00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: people that cover the league, inst cider scouts. I did

1310
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: a general survey and I asked everybody, before last season,

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: what do you think the going rate would be in

1312
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: a real trade for Davonte Adams, And this is before

1313
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: last year. And the answer I got, the highest answer

1314
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: I got was a high second round pick because of

1315
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: his age and the value of his contract. So nobody

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: wanted to give a first rounder for Davante. I laughed

1317
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: at that point, said there's no way the Raiders are

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00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: going to give up on Davante Adams first second round pick.

1319
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Now we flash forward all the way into a new year, right,

1320
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: we are going into yet another year. We watch all

1321
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: of the highlights from receiver where he makes it clear that,

1322
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy g naid O'Connor, we're gonna get him

1323
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: killed with the way they were throwing the football, and

1324
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: you see his frustration, and it leads to this conversation

1325
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: resurfacing where people are like, oh, Davante's going to get

1326
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: traded for what? Like, there is no chance in my

1327
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: mind that the Raiders is going to look. I don't

1328
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: care if he becomes the biggest toxic piece of the

1329
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: locker room, which by the way, is not who Davante

1330
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Speaker 1: has ever appeared to be. I don't think there's any

1331
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: chance Antonio Pierce and Max Crosby turn around and let

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Speaker 1: that behavior be the reason that somebody gets out the door.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance that they trade him

1334
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: for what they would get for him, which would likely

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Speaker 1: at this point be what mid second rounder? What the

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: hell you gonna get with the mid second rounder that's

1337
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna make anybody feel better about life right now? With Davante.

1338
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Adams answer is nothing. So the facts simply mean Davante's

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00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a Raider.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be a Raider.

1341
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you can have big wishes if you're a

1342
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: Jets fan obviously that you know, he gets reunited with

1343
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: his buddy Aaron Rodgers and you know has a you know,

1344
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: a great season there. But it's just not gonna happen. Again,

1345
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: the value doesn't add up to the player at this point,

1346
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: the pick doesn't add up to the player. You're not

1347
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: getting anybody that's gonna be on that level right now.

1348
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: And with the Raiders obviously there, they are trying to

1349
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: be competitive, trying to win. Got a new new regime,

1350
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: and so that would just set that regime back even

1351
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: more for failure.

1352
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: It's just it's not gonna happen.

1353
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: Davante actually saying, like down the stretch he was having

1354
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: fun with with Peers being the interim, having the interim

1355
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: tag at that point last year, but now being the

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: head coach.

1357
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Speaker 3: So I just think the relationships matter. He'll be there.

1358
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also super tight with Max Crosby. Yeah, I've

1360
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: spent a good amount of time with Max over the years,

1361
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Speaker 1: and I said, like we're buddies. And he's one of

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00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: those people that when you spend five minutes in the

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: room with him, you just you light up. You want

1364
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: to run through walls, you light up. He makes you smile,

1365
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: like I think, once Josh McDaniels got out of the building,

1366
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Max became a dominant personality to that. And it's funny.

1367
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: And I want to point out too, the delusion, and

1368
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: this is a common problem in the NFL, the delusions

1369
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: on both sides. Like I have raiders fans hit me

1370
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: up all the time. They're like, well, you know, they

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: get two first rounders for him. It's like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell were are you thinking? In the number of times,

1373
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: not even just a great player, the number of times

1374
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: we see fans of a team turn around and decide

1375
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: that some middle of the road players worth you know,

1376
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: two seconds and a first for that. Like, I don't

1377
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: understand sometimes what the hell fans think when they look

1378
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: at what they perceive trade value to be a.

1379
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Speaker 3: Player, Saxon.

1380
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Speaker 2: It's crazy because I mean when I got trade Arizona,

1381
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: obviously I was still, I guess in the prime of

1382
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: my career as well, and you know, the Jets got

1383
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: two picks for me at that time. It was a fourth,

1384
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: a fourth, and a seventh, and that fourth round pick

1385
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: ended up being a good pick for them down the line.

1386
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: I think they got McKnight, the retirement got from USC

1387
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: and somebody else. But so, I mean that was two

1388
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: picks for me in my prime. Still, Davonte, I would say,

1389
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: it's on the other end of that prime still really good.

1390
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're just not going to bring in any

1391
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: pick or any player that's gonna, I guess make that

1392
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: loss seem like it can be a feasible one.

1393
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just it is delusion.

1394
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then then you start thinking about just the

1395
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: money that's involved in it too, Like a team that

1396
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: would try to acquire them right now would have to

1397
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: immediately start soaking up. Now, the Raiders do have an

1398
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: out after this year, right like, so currently this year,

1399
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: his capit number is twenty five million dollars. Going into

1400
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: next year, the capit form is an astronomical forty four

1401
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: million dollars for the next two years. So if we

1402
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: want to talk about after this year, I think there's

1403
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: probably a pretty reasonable conversation of if the Raiders have

1404
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: won some games and they like things going in the

1405
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: right direction, and then they're able to acquire a quarterback

1406
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: that he's really happy with, maybe they figure out a

1407
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: way to keep him. If not, maybe next year, going

1408
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: into next season when he'll be thirty three at the time.

1409
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: Maybe then all of a sudden he goes to a

1410
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: place like the Jets and tries to win it. And like,

1411
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: we can have that conversation all day long, but I

1412
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: think anything until then, even looking at the trade deadline

1413
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: this year, it just isn't going to make sense. The

1414
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: smartest thing too for the Raiders, And this is one

1415
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: of the hard parts about being in Patrick Mahomes's division

1416
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: is everybody perceives that your team stinks. Well, the Raiders

1417
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: won eight games last year, right, Like they weren't an

1418
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: easy watch. The offense was abysmal, but they won eight games.

1419
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: So if you're sitting there and you're Mark Davis, the

1420
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: owner of the team, it's gonna be a hell of

1421
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: a sales job from anybody in that organization. After he

1422
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: fired everybody and kept the interim people to then turn

1423
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: around and say midway through this season, when he won

1424
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: eight games last year, when now we just got to

1425
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: give up on Davante, Like I can't imagine walking into

1426
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: the boss's office and be like, got this great plan

1427
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, I know we said we weren't going

1428
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: to rebuild, We're just gonna trade devon dea Adams Like

1429
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: you might as well just start packing your desk up

1430
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: that day, man.

1431
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm old enough to realize and actually see

1432
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: you know that teams had to go through, go through

1433
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: things to become a winner. Right we're trying to you know,

1434
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: GM this thing or office GM this thing to where

1435
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: all the pieces add up and you win right away.

1436
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen often.

1437
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: And so you know, teams and ownership start to run

1438
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: and deviate from the game plan after one unsuccessful year

1439
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: or one tough stretch, and then you think that you

1440
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: have to do this quick fix to make it all

1441
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: come together.

1442
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: It just does not happen.

1443
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: And so for any any team building personnel guy out

1444
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: there that would be listening, or the fan that thinks

1445
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: they could do it as well, like, this stuff takes time,

1446
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 2: and so be patient. Give these guys a chance to

1447
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: implement their system, implement their style of play, and then

1448
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: see what happens.

1449
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: You don't just bail on people after one year.

1450
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: He's Carrie Rose I'm Jason Fitch coming at your live

1451
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: from the Tirack dot Com studios. Carrie just said something

1452
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: that is absolutely brilliant. When we come back, I will

1453
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: explain the biggest disconnect that we have between fans and

1454
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: organizations when it comes to what we root for. But first,

1455
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: MANCI get us caught up on what's going on?

1456
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 6: No, how's Annabel doing?

1457
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1458
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: We go social? She like, so the funny thing Annabel

1459
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: is so like, look she she needs to play all day.

1460
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: But here's the funny thing. At night, Like you know,

1461
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: she crawls up on the bed when I first go

1462
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: to bed. She comes up every night, she kisses like,

1463
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: she gives me a lick, right basically, and then she

1464
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: jumps off the bed because she's like, I will not

1465
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: cuddle with you. And then after I fall asleep, she

1466
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: gets up because every morning when I wake up, she's

1467
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: pressed up against my legs. So at some point in

1468
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the night she will, but she will

1469
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 1: not give me the satisfaction. But get yeah, four years

1470
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: of playing hard to get like she's she's somewhere in

1471
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: another room waiting for me to throw the ball.

1472
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: He's gonna go to sleep, right, now I'm gonna make

1473
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: him pay.

1474
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 7: I know, right when he's snoring, it's when I'll go

1475
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 7: cuddle exact when he's.

1476
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: Snoring, I'll go. When she knows that I can get

1477
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: no fulfillment out of here, just like a woman.

1478
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, God, well, you know we are one

1479
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 7: in the same.

1480
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 6: We are one in the same. So I don't blame her.

1481
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 6: I don't blame her.

1482
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 7: All right, let's start in baseball, fellas, where the Ools

1483
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 7: have retaken the lead over the Yankees at home three

1484
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 7: to two. It's the top of the six inning. Dodgers information.

1485
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 7: I don't like this one, but I'm not gonna lie

1486
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 7: to you. I'm not surprised.

1487
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 6: Dodgers starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto has.

1488
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 7: Been moved to the sixty day IL, leaving him inactive

1489
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 7: until at least August sixteenth.

1490
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 6: So we really have no pictures. We just don't. We

1491
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 6: don't have any.

1492
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 7: So if you know of any, let's send him to

1493
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 7: the Dodgers, because we are completely out of them.

1494
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 6: Apparently.

1495
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 7: Let me see get out there, carry exactly in the

1496
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,959
Speaker 7: w NBA, one game going on, and it's a tie

1497
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 7: one between the Mercury and the Sun. They are tied

1498
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 7: at twenty nine with less than six minutes to go

1499
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 7: in the first half. At Wimbledon, Carlos Alcaraz does it again.

1500
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 7: He defeated Novak Djokovic, this time in straight sets. It

1501
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 7: was his second Grand Slam win this year and the

1502
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 7: fourth of his career. He's only twenty one in the NFL.

1503
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 7: Unfortunate news, former Ravens receiver and Super Bowl champion Jacoby

1504
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 7: Jones has passed away at the age of forty. According

1505
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 7: to KPRC television out of Houston, he passed away overnight

1506
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 7: in his sleep, and no cause of death has been

1507
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 7: announced yet. He played nine seasons in the NFL, starting

1508
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 7: in Super Bowl forty seven and twenty thirteen, where the

1509
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 7: Ravens defeated the forty nine Ers thirty four to thirty one.

1510
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 7: He became the first player to score a receiving touchdown

1511
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 7: and a return touchdown in the same game in Super

1512
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 7: Bowl history. He had one hundred and eight yard kickoff

1513
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 7: return touchdown to open the second half, which was the

1514
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 7: longest scoring play in the history of the Super Bowl.

1515
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 7: Other NFL news, According to the NFL Network, the Bengals

1516
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 7: and Star wide receiver t Higgins he's not going to

1517
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 7: do an extension by Monday's deadline.

1518
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 6: He did sign his franchise tag. He's going to play

1519
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 6: on it.

1520
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 7: But apparently he's going to be a top free agent

1521
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty five off season.

1522
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: Back to you guys, as always, she's Mancy, Belonga's doing

1523
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: great work. Case Fitz's carry roads. Uh, we'll stick all

1524
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: the soccer pronunciations with Moncy for right now.

1525
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 6: Yes, And that's just the.

1526
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: Way it's going to be. We're hanging out on Fox

1527
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, all right, So hear

1528
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: me out, Carrie, because you just talked about patience and

1529
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: here's the single greatest disconnect in all of sports. And

1530
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: then I feel this to my core because for me,

1531
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: I grew up a Raiders fan. Right, We've talked about that,

1532
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: and when I was a little kid, my dad would

1533
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: get a dozen donuts. We sit down, we eat a

1534
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: dozen donuts while we watched the Raiders game together. That

1535
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: they were the La Raiders that became the Oakland Raiders

1536
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: that are now the Vegas Raiders. Like I've lived this

1537
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: my entire life. I remember the house I was sitting

1538
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: and where I was sitting when Sebastian Janakowski was drafted.

1539
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember where I was sitting for the tuck rule

1540
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: and why I broke up with that girl afterward. I

1541
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: remember all of these different moments in my life based

1542
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: on heartbreak around my beloved Raiders. I remember the chair

1543
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: I was sitting, and when the Raiders lost the AFC

1544
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Championship game fifty one to three, I remember at halftime

1545
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: looking at my dad saying, well, they scored that much

1546
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: in the first half, we can score that much in

1547
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: the second half, right, Like, I remember so many of

1548
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: these key moments. So every time there's a new regime,

1549
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: it's impossible for it to be new for me because

1550
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: I have a lifetime of watching things mostly fail. So

1551
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: immediately I'm jaded. It's like when all you've ever done

1552
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: is be in relationships with people the cheek, you can't

1553
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: give the new relationship benefit of the doubt. And unfortunately,

1554
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: what happens is a new regime walks in and like

1555
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: if you are a new regime in any organization, if

1556
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: you're in the first two years in any organization, whatever

1557
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: happened in the past ain't your fault. Nothing you can

1558
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: do about that. And so there shouldn't be any We

1559
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: should be clean slate. But the problem is, for any

1560
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: of us that are fans, we can't clean the slate

1561
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: of what we've seen with our eyes on our soul

1562
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: for the last twenty thirty forty years.

1563
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense.

1564
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a tangible feeling now, right, it's

1565
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: happened to a point where it's all most like imprinted

1566
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: on your DNA because that's what you're saying, that's what

1567
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: you've been accustomed to.

1568
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: I understand it. I get it. Sports is just a

1569
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: different Sports is a different animal. I know.

1570
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: Like we go into the year again, we talk about

1571
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: teams having expectations of all having this idea that we're

1572
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: gonna win a Super Bowl, Right, it's no different with

1573
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 2: the fans. I think with the fans perspective of it, though,

1574
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: it's my team's gonna win a Super Bowl, right, that's

1575
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: the optimistic fan. There are some fans out there that

1576
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 2: says my team stinks, but I'm still gonna rock with them.

1577
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: But I think for the most part, we're all in

1578
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: this thing together.

1579
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: We got a new we got we got a new

1580
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: slate of games.

1581
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: We're all zero and zero at this point, and we're

1582
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: gonna be great, this is gonna be our team's year,

1583
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: and it's fun, it's exciting, all those things. But when

1584
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: things hit the fan early, those fans jump off that

1585
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: righte really quickly, where the players have to still ride

1586
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: that out and get through it. So I would say,

1587
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: as a former player speaking to fans and me being

1588
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: a fan now, having that patience is so key because

1589
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: as you live and you.

1590
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: Get age and mature, mature a.

1591
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: Little bit, you know, things don't happen overnight in our

1592
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: world and our society anywhere, So why would it be

1593
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: any different there on the football field. And so I

1594
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: would say that that would be my impassioned speech to

1595
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: a fan that's been through hard times, through trauma, just

1596
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: realize the new regime has nothing to do with that.

1597
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: They're trying their best to get this thing handled and

1598
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: going in the right direction because their job depends on

1599
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: it as well. So give them a little patience. That's

1600
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: what I would say that, Okay.

1601
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: You're right. Everything you just said is right and true.

1602
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: It's just easier said than done. This is the whole

1603
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: reason that I started to really lose my mind during

1604
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs and everybody kept saying, well, the Celtics

1605
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: always blow it. There has to be context to that, right,

1606
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: It's not just the Celtics always blow it. Every year

1607
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: is different, Every playoff loss is different. You're not going

1608
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: to sit here and create some big, sweeping narrative about

1609
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: the Bills and ability to get past the Chiefs, because

1610
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: every one of those games has been wildly different. Like,

1611
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to sit here and say Kyle Shanahan

1612
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: is a choke artist because he lost the Super Bowl.

1613
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: To me, that Super Bowl is much different than, for example,

1614
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: the twenty eight to three debacle where he was in

1615
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: offensive court. Yeah, right, Like all of these are such

1616
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: different moments that because we as fans it's one team,

1617
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: it's one moment for the professionals that are involved in it,

1618
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: every game, every season is so different than the one before.

1619
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a through line you can

1620
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: really take.

1621
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: It really isn't, but that is that's the connector with

1622
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: the fan and the team, right, Like the disconnect of

1623
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: not knowing exactly or being privy or being aware to

1624
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: what you just said, The dynamic of each of those seasons,

1625
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: each of those games are totally different now the result

1626
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: and being result base is still kind of a linear approach, right,

1627
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: It's either one loss, but when it's outside of that

1628
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: and the circumstances or the factors that make or that

1629
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: going to that game or into that loss or until

1630
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: that win is totally different. And then usually there's added

1631
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: characters or added cast to what's going on to that

1632
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: particular season. So the teams aren't even the same, they're

1633
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: totally different. So yes, I agree with that, with that take,

1634
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: for sure.

1635
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's all kind of funny because we want

1636
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: to make one sweeping generalization about all of it and

1637
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: then turn it into well, these results aren't good enough,

1638
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, I understand that, but you really have

1639
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: to ask yourself to why. It's why I constantly say, Look,

1640
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: my hope every single year as a fan isn't that

1641
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: I go in and my team has a great record.

1642
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: My hope is that I watch good football. Like that's

1643
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: far more. I mean, I remember watching seasons where teams

1644
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: won ten games and didn't make the playoffs, and now

1645
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: we see teams some years win ten games that do

1646
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: make the playoffs that we all know as fans, we're

1647
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: smart enough to know they stink. I want to watch

1648
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: a good football team and whatever else happens from is

1649
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: it controllable.

1650
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: We can't control exactly.

1651
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: I remember, I mean my time plan. I mean I

1652
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: remember the Patriots going I think they went. They won

1653
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: ten games with was that Matt Castle?

1654
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: What year was that was that?

1655
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the mac Castle without two thousand and seven

1656
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: they didn't make the playoffs. And I mean there's times

1657
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: when we were nine wins, ten wins and that, and

1658
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: that's when it was sixteen games we didn't make the playoffs.

1659
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: So yes, and we know that that year we didn't

1660
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: make it was two thousand and eight, we were nine

1661
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: and we were nine and three. We lost the last

1662
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: four games down the stretch, went nine to seven. But

1663
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: you know, Brett Farm had an arm issue. But if

1664
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't, we were a really good team and we

1665
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: probably could have made some noise. But at the end

1666
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: of the day, another team sneak saying that you know

1667
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: isn't going to win, and it's like, well, well they

1668
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: took the spot, so they made it.

1669
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 3: But doesn't mean.

1670
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: That they were a better team or even a good

1671
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: team at that time. They just were, you know, had

1672
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: a circumstance. What it got in and that's what it is,

1673
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: and that's what we'll remember.

1674
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: Right. We didn't make it, they made it.

1675
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: I always say it's better to be lucky than good,

1676
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: but I think short term it's better to be lucky

1677
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: than good. Long term, it's better to be good than lucky.

1678
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: We're coming at your live from the tire rack dot

1679
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: Com studios with all this NFL talk, be remiss if

1680
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: we don't mention that we're about to go into an

1681
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: unprecedented year in college football, not just because of playoff expansion,

1682
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: but because of a wild changing in the guard. We'll

1683
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: talk about it next on Fox Sports Sunday. It's Fox

1684
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Carry Roads. I'm

1685
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: Jason Fitz hanging out with him. Follow us on Twitter

1686
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: at Carrie twenty five Roads at Jason Fitz. Follow us

1687
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram too, just at Carry Rhoads at Jason Fitz.

1688
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 3: Jason, Jason, I got, I got a little, I got

1689
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: a little, a little.

1690
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: Bernie just told me you were possibly die hard Met

1691
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: and Jets fan.

1692
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: Is that is that true? Is there any truth to

1693
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: the truth?

1694
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: Zero truth today, zero truth, No Mets, no Jets for me, No, No,

1695
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm a one. I'm a We're coming at your life

1696
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: from the tyro rack dot com studios. I'm a one

1697
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: team man, brother I am. I am a Raiders fan

1698
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: and nothing else. Like I was a big Lakers fan

1699
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: as a kid, but that that sort of died off

1700
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: over the years for me. And I'm a big u

1701
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,520
Speaker 1: LV fan, but they're never relevant. So you know it's

1702
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm from Vegas originally. So yeah, no, no, no Mets

1703
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: Jets love for me.

1704
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: Uh uh oh man, So the birdie was completely wrong.

1705
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: So my sources are terrible, is what you're telling me.

1706
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: Your sources. Your sources are terrible sources. Your sources are off.

1707
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: Uh that that that that is not happening. What is

1708
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 1: what's your baseball team? I should know this.

1709
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Speaker 3: I'm a Yankee. I'm a Yankee guy. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: a Yankee guy.

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean be in the boxes watching those games in

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and man, was I was there when it

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: was the real captain was there, Derek Jeters?

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: So you know you know how that goes.

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: God, that's such a glorious era to be just saying

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01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: it around like you know, that's the thing. And and

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons I love everything, Like, look,

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: my I'm a grown ass man, and I could admit

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: as a grown ass man that it's stupid that my

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: week is just impacted by how the Raiders play. Like

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: the Raiders typically lose on Sunday. Monday, I don't want

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: to watch anything because I don't want to be reminded

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01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,480
Speaker 1: of how painful the loss was. They never year. Tuesday,

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: I'm still in my feels about it. Wednesday, I start

1725
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: to look forward to it a little bit Thursday. By then,

1726
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: I've convinced myself next week's gonna be different. Friday, I'm excited,

1727
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: like this is my path, so I can't devote that.

1728
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: But that's why I love covering every other sport because like, look,

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,879
Speaker 1: I've made a lot of my living around college football.

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: I don't care who Winter loses, and that's a glorious thing.

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01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely when everybody else is screaming in a bar,

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, that's gonna be a good story,

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 1: which means good ratings, and I am happy.

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: That's funny.

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 2: You sound like an actual NFL football player with that

1736
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: schedule too, Yeah, that's how it goes. It kind of

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: goes for us too. Monday you're like, you kin kind

1738
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: of mending the wounds, and Tuesday you're kind of like,

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: we got to play better. Wednesday you go through the

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01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: process of getting better. Thursday, Friday you're kind of over it.

1741
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: Now you're like, we're gonna play better this week. Saturday comes,

1742
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: you rest, Sunday, you go out there and lose again.

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of part of the part of the deal.

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: Man. I've always said too, like being an NFL fan

1745
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: is just like a bad relationship when the Super bowls over,

1746
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: when your season's over for your favorite team. It's like

1747
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: when you just broke up. You have such a per

1748
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: fixed view of what your favorite team is. Yeah, and

1749
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: then a couple months later you're like, I don't know.

1750
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: Free agency is coming up. You're like I do. I

1751
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: do kind of miss the way she laughed. And then

1752
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: like you get to the draft and like, man, it

1753
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: wasn't all bad, Like we had some really good vacations

1754
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: on this and then you get to OTA's and you're like, ah,

1755
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: I just miss her smile. And by the time you're

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: back in the season, you're like, you know what, we

1757
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: fixed it. We had patched up. We're back together. It's

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna be great, and then you hit week three and

1759
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: you're like, she's still crazy. That's just that's the way

1760
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: it goes. Like it's a cycle that never ends.

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 3: It is.

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: It is a never ending story, like one of my

1763
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 2: favorite childhood movies, never ending story. It all changes, man,

1764
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: and it comes back to the same point being the

1765
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: reason that it didn't work probably is the reason it'll

1766
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: happen again.

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: So that's what it is.

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's alarming by the way, never ending story.

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: True classic in that song in that movie is absolutely

1770
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: But like even as an adult, I still cry every

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: time that movie is coming on, Like I've is carrier,

1772
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: Like when you play in the NFL, can you be

1773
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: a movie crier? Is that allowed? Ah?

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: In my own place of residency, maybe a few tears

1775
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: was said, but not out in public.

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01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

1777
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: See that's the difference. When you're a musician, people are like,

1778
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:09,959
Speaker 1: oh my god, here's so sensitive.

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 3: Exactly.

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01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: I remember seeing Armageddon with a bunch of buddies and

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: like the end seeing of Armageddon, like there wasn't I mean,

1782
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: it was ugly crying up in a group of men

1783
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: and it was just ugly crying. And I looked around

1784
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is proof positive that not

1785
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: a single one of us will ever be an athlete,

1786
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: because it was just like sobbing, weeping, like a funeral

1787
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: sort of thing at Armageddon. So I ad met that.

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 2: Care Jackson, look at this real quick before we gotta

1789
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: get out there. But yeah, I had that moment too.

1790
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: I was sitting in the movie theater by myself because

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01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: I like to go at the matinee times. I'm usually

1792
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: there alone or it's like me and two other grandmothers, right,

1793
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm sitting there watching The Greatest Showmen and

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm baal and I'm like, why am I crying in

1795
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: the Greatest Showman? So you know I'm there now I'm

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: a car here as well.

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01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: No, man, the Greatest Showman, I'm not gonna lie. Like

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: when I was doing the Fourth of July Hot Getting

1799
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: Contest a few years ago, I was driving back with Gojo.

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01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: We were driving back from the broadcast, and we're both

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: big Greatest Showman fans. Yeah, and he put that soundtrack

1802
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: in and rolled the windows down, and I mean, you

1803
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: had two adult males singing at the top of our

1804
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: lungs like we were singing like we were headed to

1805
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift Concert All for the Greatest Show and

1806
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: like I think it's one of the most high hype

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01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: soundtracks of all time.

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01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's you just press play and just listen the

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: whole way through. It's never enough, never never.

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: What did you used to listen to to get hype?

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01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: Before games?

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: I was a jazz I was like a classical jazz guy.

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01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: I didn't listen to any rowdy music. I wanted to

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01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: be calm because I had to make a lot of decisions,

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: make a lot of checks. So I put myself in

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: his HOMEO stations listening to jazz or a little you know,

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: probably jazz was my number one.

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: So that's only funny to me because, as we mentioned before,

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01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: I worked for a long time with Harry Douglass was

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: so close to me and HD when I asked him,

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: said classical music because he realized that he got two

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: ammed if he listened to stuff that amped up to

1823
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: changed his whole calendar getting ready for a game. It's

1824
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 1: crazy to think think of you guys listening to jazz

1825
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 1: and classical music and not listening to like some thumping

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: thing that gets you going.

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

1828
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: We can hear that once once we're on the field

1829
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: and once the live the live bullet star flowing. But

1830
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 2: as far as getting ready, I need to be chilled

1831
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 2: and be calm.

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01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing a locker room full of a bunch

1833
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 1: of people wearing headphones and everybody like meditation music. They'll

1834
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: crying and it's like just getting in the visits. That

1835
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: needs to be a keen peel sketch someday, like they

1836
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: bring it back just to give us that sketch. In

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01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: the meantime, man, it has been a blast as it

1838
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: always is. Thanks for letting me sit in and hang

1839
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: out with you today, brother, I appreciate.

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01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 3: It, no question.

1841
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on Jason and holding it down for

1842
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: my buddy and my running mate Dan, who's not here.

1843
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: He'll be back next week. But thank you Jason. You've

1844
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: been great.

1845
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: It's been an awesome time getting to chat with you

1847
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: and get to connect with you.

1848
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1849
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: Well, let's thanks for letting me keep the seat warm

1850
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: in the meantime, keep it here right here all day

1851
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio for Carrie Roads.

1852
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz. We appreciate you guys hanging out with us.