1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. This 11 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: is Strange Joshua Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren, and 12 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand 13 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: new my glowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: can do at home, and a lot more. On this 15 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: edition of the show Dead Aliens. You will not believe 16 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: what I received in the mail a few days ago. 17 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: This is one of the weirdest stories that I've ever heard. 18 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I think it will be one of the weirdest stories 19 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: that you've ever been told. And so you know what 20 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: it means when I say something like that. It's time 21 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: to grab your soda pop, pour your cup coffee, pour 22 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: your glass of wine, grab your bottle of whiskey, turn 23 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: down the lights, do whatever it is you do when 24 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: you prepare yourself to hear something that's going to make 25 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: you say augietato zume. It's one of those stories. And 26 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I've been dying to tell you this for a while. Okay, 27 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: where do I begin. I was recently contacted online, initially 28 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: through my Facebook page, by a couple named Nathan and Angel, 29 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: and they live outside of Phoenix, Arizona. And the first 30 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: message I got this was a public post. Nathan says, Hey, Joshua, 31 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: have you ever heard the name John Edmonds in the 32 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: OUFO E T World? If so, I have a crazy 33 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: story about him. God rest his soul. And my initial 34 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: response was Nope, never heard of him. But it turns 35 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: out that I had heard of him. I had just 36 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: forgotten about it. It was a long time ago, so 37 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: I'll get back to that later in the story. So 38 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: he wrote back and he said John Edmonds had a 39 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: place here in Arizona called Star Dust Ranch, said to 40 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: have been visited by aliens numerous times, and he killed 41 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: several and had alien DNA that he got tested, he 42 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: was on Ghost Adventures. He had a lot of strange stories. 43 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: But he goes on to say that recently John Edmonds 44 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: died and that Nathan and Angel were part of the 45 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: team to go in and repossess this ranch after it 46 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: went into foreclosure. And he said that when John Edmunds died, 47 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: his wife just walked out the door, basically leaving all 48 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of their possessions behind, including the DNA test results from 49 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: the alien DNA. And I was like wow, So I said, look, 50 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: please contact Mobius and tell him more about this, to 51 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: see if we can examine anything you have. Because you 52 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: have to understand, I get so many messages that it's 53 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: absolutely impossible for me to read all of them, and 54 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: so I at least stri if I can't correspond with everybody, 55 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll pass them often to Mobius and let him be 56 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: that first point of contact and look over things and 57 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: figure out whether or not it's something that I need 58 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: to pursue. You know, I have to have to guard 59 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: my time like that, and so uh and you know, 60 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: and it is funny. You never know what you're gonna get, 61 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: what kind of reaction you're gonna get. There was a 62 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: guy one of these fellows about a week ago who 63 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: emailed me and he said, hey, I saw your UFO stuff. 64 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, may I send you this clip of a 65 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: UFOI shot to get your opinion? And I said, sure, 66 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: you can send it to me, and I have a 67 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: team that will look over it and we'll give you 68 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: an opinion if we can. That's how this works, I do. 69 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: I have a team of people. They're all experts. We've 70 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: been doing this a long time, people who have college 71 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: degrees and all kinds of stuff, experience working in TV 72 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: and movies. And so this guy sends this clip. I'm 73 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: talking about a different person than Nathan here. Okay, this 74 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: is just another guy who sent a clip and we 75 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: open it up, we all look at it, and it's 76 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: just one of these things where's just like a white 77 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: light in the sky and he's telling me it's shape 78 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: shifting and all these faces and stuff. And we just 79 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: wrote him back and said, well, I'm sorry, we're not 80 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: able to deduce anything from what you've said here. We 81 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: don't have enough information. And then I got one of 82 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: those well strew you emails back. That happens a lot. 83 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: So you trying to be nice and courteous and somebody 84 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: asks you to look at their thing and you say, well, 85 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know what you know. I don't 86 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: have anything for you, I don't see what you're saying, 87 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: and they just hate your guts for it, you know. 88 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: So you never know if you're going to be dealing 89 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: with somebody who's sensible or not. Well, fortunately, Nathan and 90 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Angel are very sensible people from what I can tell, 91 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and so Nathan he contacted Nathan and Angel, they contacted 92 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: Mobius and they explained what this was all about. And 93 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Mobius and I became immediately intrigued because there is a 94 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: heck of a twist to this story that you're going 95 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: to hear about. You might not even believe it. You 96 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe what I'm holding in my hands right now. 97 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm serious, Okay. I bought this book. I started researching 98 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: this guy, John Edmunds, and the reason that I at 99 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: first that I hadn't heard of him was because I 100 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: just forgot his name. And I do remember, however, seeing 101 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: him on this episode of Ghost Adventures back in the day. 102 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you more about that later. And I thought 103 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: it was weird because the Ghost Adventures wasn't doing too 104 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: much in the alien et world, and it was unusual 105 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: for them to go to this place called Stardust Ranch. 106 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: And Dave Schrader was on that show. And anyway, I'll 107 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: tell you more about that later. But this guy, John Edmonds, 108 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: he wrote this book. Apparently he just passed away a 109 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and he wrote this book called 110 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Stardust Ranch The Incredible True Story, authored by him and 111 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Bruce McDonald. I got this on Amazon dot com and 112 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: I also started watching videos with John Edmonds and listening 113 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: to podcasts. And here's the gist of the story. Okay, 114 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert and I 115 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: know all the little ins and outs, but this is 116 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: what I've been able to gather as the basic story. 117 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: John Edmonds was a counselor and a therapist who lived 118 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: in Arizona and is late. He was in his late 119 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: thirties and he decided that he didn't want that kind 120 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: of stress. He wanted a more natural life out in 121 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: the country, making money off of horses and outdoor activities. 122 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: And so he and his wife, Joyce bought this horse 123 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: ranch in Buckeye, Arizona, almost an hour's drive outside of Phoenix. 124 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: And they purchased it I think around nineteen ninety six. 125 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Now this ranch had been built in the late nineteen seventies, 126 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: so it was about twenty years old. And it was 127 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: not originally called Stardust Ranch. That's a name that John 128 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: gave it over to. I'm due to the sort of 129 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: cosmic activity there. And it's one of those things where 130 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: in his book he says, we just bought it for 131 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: a really good deal. You know, ten acres, three and 132 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: a half thousand square foot house with five bedrooms, three bathrooms, 133 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: a big living room and kitchen and storage areas and 134 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: an inground swimming pool and plenty of accommodations for all 135 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: the horses. And you hear that sort of thing a lot, 136 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: don't you, When when somebody buys something and it's just 137 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: a really good deal, you just can't refuse, couldn't turn 138 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: down that bargain. It might be a haunted or cursed 139 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: idol our location. Some people just give it away. And 140 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: when John and Joyce went into this house, they were 141 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: even more surprised because it was fully furnished. All the 142 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: furniture was in there, even the kitchen was stocked with food, 143 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: and a realtor told him, although the previous owners just 144 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: used it once in a while for vacations, and they 145 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: were okay with just you know, selling everything in the 146 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: house along with it. So he said, look, we couldn't 147 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: turn down this still, and so he was just jumping 148 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: for joy to buy this house. But his wife, on 149 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: the other hand, had a bad eerie feeling from the beginning, 150 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: and you know how that goes. That happens often as well, 151 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: And sure enough, not long after they got settled in, 152 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: all kinds of spooky, ghostly stuff started happening on this ranch. 153 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: It was just a two of them. They would see 154 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: shadows moving around, objects would be displaced, and he finally 155 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: found out at some point many years before, a seventeen 156 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: year old boy who lived in the house had put 157 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: a shotgun in his mouth on graduation day and killed 158 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: himself in this house. That's just the beginning. That is 159 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. When we come back from 160 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: this break, I'm it's really if you think this is 161 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: a weird story, it's really starts getting weird. 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Warren. 197 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 198 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: Welcome back Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 199 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the 200 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua pe Warren, beaming into your wormhole 201 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 202 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 203 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Gietato Zume. Do you think you'd be a little freaked 204 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: out at night being on this ranch, this stardust ranch, 205 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: just you and your husband, kind of in the middle 206 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: of nowhere. He describes this is being one of the 207 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: more remote and undeveloped areas, and he talks about how 208 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: that there's not really much around. He says, if you 209 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: look at Stardust Ranch in the satellite view of Google Maps, 210 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: you'll see dry, hard land with very little green, a 211 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of orange red and brown. It's the kind of 212 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: land you'd see in an Old West movie. And when 213 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: you have your feet on the ground in Buckeye, that's 214 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: exactly what it feels like. Except for the house itself, 215 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: which is fairly modern, my ranch looks like it's from 216 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: an Old West movie. It's the kind of hard, scabbed 217 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: land that a man looking for true solitude would feel 218 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: comfortable then. And when I saw it, I saw my dream. 219 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: So they're out there in the middle of nowhere by themselves, 220 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: on this ranch, and now all this weird stuff is happening, 221 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: spooky things. The list is too long to go down, 222 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: but you can imagine the typical spooky stuff, and then 223 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: it kind of really kicks off after a couple of months. 224 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: I want to read to you this portion from his 225 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: book called Stardust Ranch, The Incredible True Story See what 226 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: was this published? This was published twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, 227 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: not too long ago. I like a I say, he's 228 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: only been dead a couple of years. I believe so. 229 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: He said he'd been carrying a gun around on the property, 230 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: a three point fifty seven magnum And he said sometime 231 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: in our second month at the ranch, I was home 232 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: alone while Joyce was at work in Phoenix. I saw 233 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: a man come off the road and begin walking up 234 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: my long dirt laneway. Right away I knew there was 235 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: something off about him. He was about five feet nine 236 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: inches tall. He wore a military style shirt with the 237 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: sleeves cut off over a T shirt. He had on 238 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: a very well worn pair of jeans that looked as 239 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: though they had not been washed in some time. A 240 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: very worn pair of lace black boots adorned his feet. 241 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: He had long gray hair parted in the middle, sort 242 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: of like Willie Nelson, and somewhere between a one and 243 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: a two week salt and pepper beard over very gault cheeks. 244 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: I put the gun into the back of my pants 245 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: and walked out of the house to meet him on 246 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: the laneway. And as I got closer to him, I 247 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: could see an intensity to his eyes, something I'd come 248 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: to equate with the many psychotics I met in my 249 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: counseling practice. His teeth were in horrible condition, yellow and broken, 250 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: marking him as someone who had lived rough for a 251 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: while years maybe. But what caught my attention most was 252 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: the well used twenty four inch machete he was carrying 253 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: in his hand. He did not appear to have a 254 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: scabbard for it. A man walking around with a machete 255 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: was not out of place in a rainbow valley, but 256 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: a man walking around holding a machete was unusual. It 257 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: made me tense up in the way I used to 258 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: feel when I was walking around my old neighborhood, a 259 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: place where anything could happen. I had to be prepared 260 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: for immediate spontaneous violence. So anyway, he says, we both 261 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: came to a stop around the midpoint of the one 262 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: hundred yard laneway, ten feet between us, squared off like 263 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: a couple of gunfighters, cautiously studying each other. I spoke first, 264 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Can I help you? I live here? He said, Excuse me, 265 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: I asked. I tried not to be too rude or incredulous, 266 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: because I did not know what the guy was talking about. 267 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: He pointed up with the machete, off to the deaths 268 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: off the to the distance there, stating he lived there. 269 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: I took a glance behind me. I assumed he meant 270 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: the storage shack about twenty five or fifty yards from 271 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: the main house. I had already taken a look inside 272 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: of it. I did not see the makings of any 273 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of squat for this homeless man. I had the 274 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: sense that he was a veteran. In any case, I 275 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: was extremely tolerant of him. I'm sorry, I said, I 276 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: don't have an arrangement with you. Did the previous occupants 277 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: allow you to live on the land. Did you help 278 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: out around here or something? He then said something that 279 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: made my whole body tighten up. I killed the monsters, 280 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: know why, but even thinking back about this all those 281 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: years ago makes me uncomfortable. I quickly became impatient with 282 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: the man and said, look, I don't know what arrangement 283 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: you had with the previous owners, but I don't want 284 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: you living here. He sort of cold caught me with 285 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: a thousand yards stare and simply said, you're going to 286 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: regret that. Then he turned around and walked away, as 287 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: he had come between the man with the machete in 288 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: my lane way and the entire contents of the house. 289 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: I still did not connect with Joyce's intuition about the place. 290 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: I guess I should have seen it. It could not 291 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: have been a stronger fore warning by the law of 292 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: circumstance and synchronicity. The only thing missing was the crazy 293 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: old man from the Friday the Thirteenth movie franchise warning 294 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: the teenagers not to go to Camp Blood. Well that's 295 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: that's not a good sign, is it, you're dude. Dude, Well, 296 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: sure enough. Not long after that, this is when the 297 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: activity picks up. And you know, again, I could go 298 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: into a lot of detail here, but I got one 299 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: podcast to tell you what's going on here. They finally 300 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: start seeing some of these ghostly figures become more and 301 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: more tangible, and then they realized that when they can 302 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: get a better look at them, they're actually seeing what 303 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: look like the grays, the gray aliens, you know, the 304 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: typical ones that have the big oval head and the 305 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: big black eyes. And one of the weirdest things is 306 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: that he said it began when they started catching glimpses 307 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: of them, and that when they would see him, it 308 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: would look like that. Sometimes they were peeking out from 309 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: behind a shower curtain in the middle of the room, 310 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: except there was no curtain in the middle of the room, 311 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: so it was almost like that they were literally partially 312 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: cloaked and occasionally peeking in and out from another dimension. 313 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: And then things really ramped up when they began to 314 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: feel like they were becoming abducted. As a matter of fact, 315 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: here in the back of the book, his wife Joyce 316 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: actually wrote some about her experience, and she said it 317 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: was horrifying for me. She said, the grays make a 318 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: hissing sound, and I could hear things moving around at night. 319 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: John and I woke up in the morning and both 320 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: of us were extremely raw and chafed on the inside 321 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: of our thighs, and we figured out that we had 322 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: been abducted. It proceeded to the point where I was 323 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: being taken multiple times, right, So this continues. John even 324 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: says at one point he goes into the house and 325 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: he actually sees he goes into the bedroom at night, 326 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: and he actually sees his wife levitating out of the bed, 327 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: and he doesn't know what to do. And this is 328 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the point where he starts trying to attack whatever these 329 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: things are. Almost every night they're popping up around the property. 330 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: He ends up shooting at them on a number of occasions, 331 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: but the shooting doesn't really seem to phase them, and 332 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: they're hopeless, you know, they're thinking about just leaving the property. 333 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: And then one day he was driving home on this 334 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, rural road, and he said there was a 335 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: truck in front of him that was just packed down 336 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: with a bunch of junk, just way too much stuff, 337 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: and he just knew that something was going to fall 338 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: off this truck. And sure enough, at one point, a 339 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: couple of items tumble off of the truck in front 340 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: of him, and so John lays on the horn and 341 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: the guy just keeps on going. So John gets over, 342 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: He pulls over, he gets out of his car, and 343 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: he goes to see what's falling out of this truck. 344 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: And here in the road is a samurai sword, a katana, 345 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: and I actually owned the samurai swords. And so you have, 346 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: if you're that kind of person, you know, you have 347 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: your three different types of blades. You have your tonto, 348 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: which which is a short one, and then you have 349 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: your wakazashi, which is the medium sized one, and then 350 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: you have your katana, which is the big long one 351 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: with the nice curve blade on it, and he just 352 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: immediately felt there was something beyond synchronistic about the fact 353 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: that he you know that literally, this this katana just 354 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: fell out out of this truck at his feet, and 355 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: so he picks up this mystical sword. He has in 356 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: no way of tracking down the man who dropped it, 357 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: so he says, I guess I am now the owner 358 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: of this katana. So after that, whenever these aliens appear 359 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: at his house, he runs out and he starts slicing 360 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: them with this katana, and guess what it works. It 361 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: kills them, and all kinds of fluids go everywhere, and 362 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: then the alien hits the floor, but then immediately it vanishes. 363 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: It's like they're from another dimension. Matter and energy are 364 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: flexible and transient, and so every time he kills one 365 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: of these things, the body just vanishes, and then some 366 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: of the fluids and stuff will vanish as well. So 367 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: this puts him in an even weirder position because now 368 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: he's killing these things but he can't prove that they 369 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: exist physically. He and his wife are starting to feel 370 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: like they're going insane. But then he discovers something. 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That's Coast to coastam dot com. 392 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 393 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network, heard on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 394 00:26:47,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: or wherever you find your favorite shows. 395 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 396 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paronormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, 397 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 398 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: How would you like to live at this ranch that 399 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: John Edmonds basically describes as a place where anything and 400 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: everything is happening. It's like a portal. It's like Skinwalker Ranch. 401 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: You've got You've got ghosts and aliens and UFO and 402 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: psychic phenomena. It's like Brown Mountain in North Carolina. It's 403 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: like Point Pleasant, West Virginia in the nineteen sixties. It's 404 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: like perhaps even my own land in Rachel, Nevada, where 405 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm working on building my portal machine. A little bit 406 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: of everything's happening here, and so yes, you have various 407 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: interdimensional interactions. And here he is fighting like crazy for 408 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: this beloved ranch, trying to protect himself and his wife 409 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: who are being abducted. They even believe that their experiments 410 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: being done with their private parts. And you know, these 411 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: things are running around hissing like snakes. These grays and 412 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: he's happy that he can at least kill them with 413 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: the sword, but he's stunned when he finally chops the 414 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: head off of one and the body does not vanish. Okay, 415 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: this is this is a game changer. So he takes 416 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: the body and the head and he packs them up 417 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: and he puts them in this big freezer. And now 418 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: he's saying, this is my opportunity to do something to 419 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: prove what's happening here. And I don't know if he'd 420 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: been telling a lot of people about this what was 421 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: happening to him or not. So he's tried to figure 422 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: out what do I do? What do I do? And 423 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: he said, you know, you might think if you had 424 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: a dead alien, that you would just call the news 425 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: or call the cops and go out and tell the 426 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: whole world. But he says, that's not the way it 427 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: is that honestly, right off the bat, you think, is 428 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: it possible that somehow, some way what I've done here 429 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: is illegal? Because you didn't want to mean, you never know, 430 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: you might get into some kind of trouble for during this. Secondly, 431 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: he says, I don't want the entire world to dec 432 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: end on my property tomorrow. That's become a huge circus. 433 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: You know what, how do you handle something like this? 434 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: He was clueless, He even wasn't he thought about maybe 435 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: even you know, destroying it. But apparently he back in 436 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: his days when he was working with you know, like 437 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: corrections officers of people like that, he ended up working 438 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: on some cases and he met this guy who became 439 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: a good friend, who was high up in the military somewhere, 440 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: and this retired military man was was trusted, and so 441 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: John Edmonds. And by the way, I should have done 442 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: this to begin with. But if you ever look this up, 443 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: Edmunds is spelled well, John is spelled j O h 444 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: N and Edmunds is spelled e D M O N 445 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: d S. John Edmonds calls up this military guy, and 446 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: the military guy somehow says, well, here's this scientist that 447 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: you can send this stuff to. And I think he's 448 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: he's the man. His name is doctor W. C. Levin Gooode. 449 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: And Levin goood had been around for many, many years. 450 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: He was already an old man. He was up in 451 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: his eighties, I think. And he said, and I'd seen 452 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: actually Levin Wood's work. He'd done a lot of work 453 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: on crop circles, and even though he had a lot 454 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: of credibility, he was very open minded to strange and 455 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: metaphysical things. So John decided to send some of the 456 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: body to this scientist, Levin Goood, and he goes to 457 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: the freezer and guess what, the body has vanished. So 458 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: even they still apparently vanish even if you cut their 459 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: head off, but it just takes a little longer. And 460 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: he says he's not sure if they come back and 461 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: collect the dead or what. But he still had some 462 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: tissue left over. As a matter of fact, there's a 463 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: picture of his samurai sword with kind of like a 464 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: pool of blood. So he gets some of these tissue 465 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: samples and he sends them to doctor Levin Goood, and 466 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Levin Goood studies them and sends back this big report 467 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: and says, I've never seen anything exactly like this, except 468 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: maybe around animal mutilation sites. He goes to paraphrase and 469 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: this is a very long detailed report, but he basically 470 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: says that these these molecules from this tissue, it almost 471 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: looks like an animal plant hybrid, doesn't It doesn't quite 472 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: look like any life form here on Earth. It's a 473 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: mix of these things. And this is very exciting, and 474 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: so they're going to continue pursuing this and then all 475 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Leven Goood dies. Now from what I know, 476 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: from what I've heard, it was just natural causes. Like 477 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: I say, he was an old man. Well, what happened 478 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: to all these tissue samples and stuff? Well, apparently his 479 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: wife had access to them. And then right after that, 480 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Levin Good's wife died and they ask well what happened 481 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: to her? And somebody said, oh, she slipped and fell 482 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: or something very general like that. Yes, here we go 483 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: down the road of conspiracy. Is somebody trying to cover 484 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: this up? Or are or some truths just not allowed 485 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: to be exposed by Mother Nature because the universe doesn't 486 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: want them exposed? Or is this just all too convenient 487 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: and it's just a bunch of boloney to cover up 488 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: a baloney story. Well regardless, after all this happens, John 489 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: Edmunds he decides that he look, he's got to just 490 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: tell the world about this and see if what needs 491 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: to be done. He gets frustrated. He ends up going 492 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: on ghost adventures, which is really weird. You know, I've 493 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: been on ghost adventures a number of times. I've worked 494 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: with Zach Began's on a lot of different projects over 495 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: the years on the Travel Channel, Paranormal Paparazzi and Paranormal Challenge, 496 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: as well as Dave Schrader and Dave Schrader was on 497 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: this episode of Ghost Adventures. It came out on July 498 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: thirtieth of twenty sixteen. The episode was called Stardust Ranch. 499 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: And on my TV, if I go to Discovery Plus, 500 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: that is my Roku Discovery Plus, it's listed as season fifteen, 501 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: episode three. I think if you go to different places platforms, 502 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: that might be slightly different, but it should be somewhere. 503 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: I think in season fifteen Stardust Ranch. And in this 504 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: in this show, well, the guy John Edmonds is there 505 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: with Zach Begans. He takes out the Samurai sword. I 506 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: have all these screen captures of the two of them 507 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: holding this sword and John is talking about, you know, 508 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: killing this thing. I'm actually looking at pictures of them 509 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: right now holding the sword. I have this picture also 510 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: of the sword and a pile of blood or some 511 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: other kind of fluid. And then at one point in 512 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: the show, like Dave Schrader goes out by himself into 513 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the desert at night and tries to see if anything happens, 514 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: and you know, they captured a lot of weird, creepy stuff, 515 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: but you know, nobody got like abducted or anything, and 516 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: they didn't you know, they didn't capture a video of 517 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: a grape. Well after that, John he started coming out 518 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: and talking more and more about this. He would go 519 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: on radio shows, podcasts, and I don't know, honestly, if 520 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: he was actually out there trying to make money from 521 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: this story. I just don't know. But I do know 522 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: that finally he put his ranch up for sale and 523 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: they just had to get out of there. Put it 524 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: up for I think it might have been somewhere in 525 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of five million dollars and nobody ever bought it, 526 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: and I wonder, why would you want to live there? 527 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I would buy it. And then it 528 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: is my understanding that he died February of twenty twenty two. 529 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know how old he was, but I 530 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: think he might have been like in his early sixties 531 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: or something like that. And then apparently from what I 532 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: was told by Nathan and Angel, after that, like I say, 533 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: his wife, who never wanted her face to be shown, 534 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: who never wanted to be identified with this stuff, and 535 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: it's I've heard through the grapevine that she may actually 536 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: have some law enforcement connections that she was sort of 537 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: worried about being connected with this. She just walked out 538 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: and left everything, which is weird because when they found 539 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: the place, it almost looked like the same thing had 540 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: happened with the last folks who owned it, that they 541 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: had just walked out and left everything, And that apparently 542 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: is what she did. And as I speak, I'm looking 543 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: at Zillow and this property, this ranch is listed on 544 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: Zillo for sale for one point three million dollars, And 545 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, what are the real estate disclosure 546 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: laws at Arizona regarding stigmatized property, you know, because I 547 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: did a show about that episode one forty five Stigmatized 548 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: Properties the Facts, and I looked it up and it 549 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: says here for Arizona, UH, under the Arizona Stigmatized Property law, 550 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: a seller, a landlord, and any real estate agent are 551 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: not required to disclose that a natural death, a suicide, 552 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: or a homicide occurred in the home. So anyway, I 553 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: said to Nathan an Angel, can you send me any 554 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: of this kind of DNA stuff that you know I 555 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: could have tested. And this is when Nathan and Angel 556 00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: blow my mind. Nathan says, oh, I uh, I've I've 557 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: got the sword. Uh exqueeze me. He says, yeah, I've 558 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: I got the sword from the house. You know, this 559 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: is apparently the sword that he was killing aliens with. 560 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: And I said, could you like swab it and send 561 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: me some samples of it? And he said, he's such 562 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: a supporter of the show. He and Angel are such 563 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: supporters and fans of the show. He says, look, I 564 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: will gift this thing to you because you know how 565 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: to do something with it. You know it'll be significant. 566 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. And I said, oh my, 567 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: uh yeah, please, let's make this happen. Well, guess what 568 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: I got in the mill three days ago. I received 569 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: the sword in the mill and I'm holding it in 570 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: my hands right now. And when we come back, I'm 571 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: going to tell you what happens next. 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I am your host, Joshua pe Warren, 592 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: and yes I am holding it in my hands when 593 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I went to FedEx and picked us up. Let me 594 00:40:50,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: just tell you talk about a kid on Christmas morning. 595 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I got this back to my house. 596 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: I took out this sword and this man, John Edmond 597 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: said that he killed eighteen or nineteen aliens using a sword. 598 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: And I took out this sword and I looked at it, 599 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, this doesn't look like 600 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: the same sword that was on TV. And so I 601 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: got the screenshots of him holding the sword and Zach 602 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: Began's holding the sword, and this is not the same sword. 603 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: I mentioned. I collect samurai swords, and the one that 604 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: he has on TV, and the one that he showed 605 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: in one of the pictures online was a very traditional 606 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: looking katana with the typical sort of black and white 607 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: wrapped handle and a very certain looking guard, and the 608 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: blade had that slight curve to it. This is very similar. 609 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: This is definitely designed to be a katana, but it 610 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: is a lightweight wooden handle, there's no wrapping on it. 611 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: The guard is very different. It looks it's looks like 612 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: it's made of brass or something like that. It's a 613 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: very brass colored, brassy colored metal, and it has some 614 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: flourish and then the blade is much straighter than a 615 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: typical katana. So I thought, well, this is really odd 616 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: that this is not the same sword. And yet I'm 617 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: looking at this sword and it's got all these weird, 618 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: nasty stains and and spots all over it that really 619 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: do look like some kind of blood or tissue or 620 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: something like. And I contacted Nathan and Angel and I said, 621 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: if you look at these pictures of the sword that 622 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: he was holding, this is a different sword. And they 623 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: were like, oh wow, man, that's you know, I can't 624 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: believe that. We thought we had the smoking gun. And 625 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: I go, but wait, you know, this could be good 626 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: because this guy was scared to death of these things, 627 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,479 Speaker 1: and he was stashing weapons all around his house, and 628 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the one that he showed on TV was being handled 629 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: by other people. It's probably the one that he took 630 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: rubbings off of that he may have sent to the doctor. 631 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: This may be even better because this has not been touched. 632 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I can look at this blade and it 633 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: does not look like any anybody has wiped on it, 634 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: or there is one little section where it looks like 635 00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 1: a scraping may have been taken. And this is at 636 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: a thirty five inch long sword from top to bottom. 637 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: It's very well balanced. It feels good in my hands. 638 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, I keep this compass 639 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: on my desk here that I bought years ago when 640 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: I was in Transylvania in Romania, and when I lower 641 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: this blade down near my Transylvanian compass, it just goes bonkers. 642 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: It's the compass goes bonkers. It's so cool. I know, 643 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's probably just because it's a big metal, 644 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, big piece of metal, but it just it's 645 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: just such a cool thing when I lower this sword 646 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: to see that compass just go crazy. So I'm holding 647 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: in my hands this sword that was obviously used, like 648 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: I say, with spots and stains and god knows what 649 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: kind of little rust like tissues. I see fingerprints on it. 650 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot on this blade. Okay, I'm holding this 651 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: in my hands, and I am going to do everything 652 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: in my power to have this properly tested. And I'm 653 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: going to start by talking to some of my contacts 654 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: at the University of Nevada Las Vegas UNLV and then 655 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: take it from there and figure out like the best 656 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: way to have this sword tested, because this may actually 657 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: be the real smoking gun, because this is not the 658 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: one that was handled by Hollywood, but he obviously was 659 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: cutting up something with this, and this is now one 660 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: of the most weird and potentially amazing items that I have, 661 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: and who knows what is going to be revealed. At 662 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: some point I will post pictures of this sword, maybe 663 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: even a video and that kind of thing online for you. 664 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: When I'm ready to give my complete report and kind 665 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: of tell you what the outcome of this, whether it's 666 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: something earth shattering or not, I will give you the report. 667 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know how long this is going to 668 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: take to get this properly done. I don't know how 669 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: much it's going to cost, but that's okay. I'm going 670 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: to do it. And I just you know, I can't 671 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: thank obviously Nathan and Angel enough for being you know, 672 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: my kind of people saying like, look, if you can 673 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: do something with this thing here, it's yours, it's a gift, 674 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: go take it. Let's see what you can find out. 675 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: And I believe this is such a great opportunity that, look, 676 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: we may determine that there's nothing here of it's extraterrestrial extraordinary, 677 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: and if so, that's fine, But what if there is 678 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: DNA on here from a gray what is that gonna 679 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: mean for the world. You have to stay tuned. And 680 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, if I actually if I 681 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: killed an alien, I don't even think I don't have 682 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: a freezer big enough to put the alien in. I 683 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: guess I could cut him up in little pieces. I 684 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: was talking to Lauren the other day about our dog, 685 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: our Chihuahua, Dolly, and you know how sometimes people they'll 686 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: cry o freeze their dog so they can put it 687 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: on the shelf, you know, after it's dead. And I 688 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: said to Lauren, I said, you know, Lauren, I think 689 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: we should cry o freeze Dolly before she dies so 690 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: she looks more life like. Now now, is the process 691 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 1: going to kill her? Of course it is. I mean 692 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: she'll freeze to death in an instant. But it's a 693 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: lot like what happened to Han's solo and the Empire 694 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: strikes back, except well he survived, and well obviously you 695 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: know Dolly's not going to But you know, that's just 696 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: a bitter pill. And look, I'm joking, everybody, I'm joking. 697 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: Please don't email me. That is a joke. Of course, 698 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna freeze my dog. That's ridiculous. It's like 699 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: one time they told me and Lauren our dog was 700 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: too heavy for the airplane, and I said, hold on 701 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: a second, will cut her legs off, all right, that's 702 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous humor. I grew up hearing jokes like you know 703 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: what's red and green and goes around and around a 704 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: frog and a blender. That's western North Carolina blue rich 705 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: mountain humor. That's how I was raised. And trust me, 706 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: it gets a lot worse than that. But no, seriously, gosh, 707 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: what if you could kill one of these grays and 708 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: cryo freeze it. Would that make a difference? Would that 709 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: prevent it from vanishing? Or is there some other technique? 710 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 1: And this is the thing that also, I mean, John 711 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: Edmonds was talking about if these are beings that are 712 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily one hundred percent here and they're not one 713 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent and another dimension, well then how does that 714 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: affect the body when it dies? And again it sounds 715 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 1: very convenient to say, all right, well the guy says 716 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,959 Speaker 1: he's killed eighteen or nineteen of these things, and yet 717 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have the body or even a 718 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: picture of a body that I know of. Is that 719 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: what happens to a lot of these creatures like Bigfoot 720 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: and these other beings that die. And by the way, 721 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: I was I was told by Nathan that in the 722 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: house when they went in there to do the repossession, 723 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: and they had to go through everything that all the 724 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: cameras he had camp quarters there, but all the tapes 725 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: were gone, All the computers were white clean, all the 726 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: stuff was in the house, but no imatry. All of 727 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: that stuff was gone. So what's going to happen with 728 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: this sword and my data? You, my friends, will be 729 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,439 Speaker 1: the first to know because you listened to this show 730 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: called Strange Things. So once again, that book if you 731 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: want to read all about this on Amazon, it's called 732 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: Stardust Ranch The Incredible True Story. Thank you Nathan, Thank 733 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: you Angel. I'm still in shock. So now, however, we've 734 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: talked about some pretty twisted and weird stuff. Shall we, 735 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: as usual relax and let's end the show on a 736 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: very positive and uplifting note. If you can close your eyes, 737 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, let us all meditate together on 738 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: the one the only original good Fortune tone. That's it 739 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter 740 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: at Joshua P. Warren. 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