1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Gino, look go lay 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: it up over the top. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: Count of man out there. 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Pitter fucker, he got it? 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Touch good, say Hawks, getting you ready for Seahawks football 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: every Sunday. 7 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: Hurts drops back, hastime, loads up pros AYJ Brown the defense? 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Don't you keep your feet in? Does seyhowk Ball? 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. Now 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: here's your host, Jen Mueller. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. We are also 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: counting down today, So Christmas, John Boyle, do want to sing? Oh? 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: Next year? 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: We should totally sing the entire podcast to Christmas too. 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: You go right ahead. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: We could also put out a Christmas gift ideal list. 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: Okay, we could really own. 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: This as you can't really own this as a holiday, John, 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: we could really own this as a holiday. Why do 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: I feel like you're not buying in on this? I 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, I think we should start early. We can 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: get some sponsors involved and. 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 5: Can I'll you lead that charge in Okay, right, I'll 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 5: just play along. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: Well, okay, John, if you don't like that. You might 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: like this. I was reading something this morning. This is 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: not going to surprise you that people do not plan 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: their weddings in the fall on days where their team 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: is playing. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: That's smart, right, smart? 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: Right? 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: Did you know that the Washington Post has actually done 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: analysis on this really and found that in twenty twenty two, 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: So we're going back. You know a couple of years, 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: five point three percent of weddings for the year took 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: place on a weekend where. 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: Auburn and Alabama had to buy isn't that. 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: Pretty chunk of weddings? Basically, the whole South plans their 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 5: weddings around the by. 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: Right, here's what I want to know, Like, I can't 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: even fathom planning a wedding in the follower went like, 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't plan anything. 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: My fitness instructor just came back from Hawaii. 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: She's like, you should try it sometime this year. It's great, 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: nobody's there, And I'm like, when are we ever taking. 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: Time off during fall and winter? 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: Bye week? 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: I guess I guess. 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: My point is this, how many NFL fans do you 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: think are starting to sweat things out for January and February, 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: including Seahawks fans and Vikings fans not knowing how the 53 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: playoffs are going to play out. If you took a 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: chance and you scheduled like a January wedding, you might 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: have some in attention. 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 5: I mean you mentioned that because I have a friend 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 5: from high school that got married in January. 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: This is like homegren Ere. 59 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: I forget what year, And it was on a wild 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: card Saturday if the Seahawks played, and I vividly remember 61 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 5: a bunch of us sneaking upstairs to this little room 62 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: in the wedding venu where they had a TV. 63 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you tell them first? 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 5: I mean we'd go and then you know, someone would come, Hey, 65 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: they're gonna do the first dance, and we'd come down. 66 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of back and forth. 67 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: So you got your step. 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: Sorry, Brian, you try not to. 69 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: But also like you are taking a chance, and right now, 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: not only are the Seahawks in position. Look, you would 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: have liked to have won that game against Screen Bay, 72 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: but you still are in position to win the division. 73 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: The Vikings meanwhile, at twelve and two, they're going they're 74 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: looking at a number one seed. 75 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: Potentially they saw the Lions to end their season. So there. 76 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, this is a team that had a 77 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 5: losing record last year. I think they expected to be better. 78 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 5: But I don't think a lot of people saw this coming. 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: And you know, we'll get into this, like Sam Darnold 80 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: is not a guy that people thought was going to 81 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: lead them to a potentially top seed, and he's been 82 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: great this year. So yeah, they're one of the one 83 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: of the bigger surprises in terms of how well they're performing. 84 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Well, we don't want to look too far into the 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: future when it comes to playoffs for the Seahawks or 86 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: the Vikings for that matter. If you are playing fantasy football, 87 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: you were absolutely looking at the playoffs, because we're gonna 88 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: narrow down that field quite a bit this week and 89 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: get a little bit more from our fantasy insider, Scott Engel. 90 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: Thanks jenn and John. Welcome to Week sixteen of fantasy football. 91 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 6: And this is the week when you could get to 92 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 6: your fantasy super Bowl, down to the final four in 93 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 6: most leagues. But don't overthink things. Go with the players 94 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 6: that have gotten you this far. If you overthink, things 95 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 6: could get dangerous and you could make movies like Benching 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Don't overthink things based 97 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 6: on a matchup. We have some great recommendations view for 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 6: this all important Week sixteen. Starting at quarterback, Baker Mayfield 99 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 6: is top five play in a great matchup against the 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys and running back to Roam fod taking over 101 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 6: the lead running back duties for the Cleveland Browns. The 102 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 6: Bengals have allowed the most fantasy points per game in 103 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 6: running backs over the last four weeks. Also check the 104 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: teams starting at running backs for the Titans between Tony 105 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 6: Pollo and Taji Spears. That's always a fine matchup for 106 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 6: running backs against the Indianapolis Colts. And wide receivers. Keep 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 6: the fantasy faith in dk Metcalf. The Vikings have allowed 108 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: the most fantasy points per game to wide receivers so 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 6: far this season, so he should have some upside this week. 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 6: Also a bounce back game for Cooper Cup against the 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: Jets defense that has allowed the fourth most fantasy points 112 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: per game to wide receivers over the last four weeks. 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 6: And it's tight end sleeper for you who's actually a 114 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: back end fantasy tight end one Chigaquono of the Tennessee Titans. 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 6: The Colts ranked thirtieth and fantasy points per game allowed 116 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 6: to tight Ends. For more of my information at recommendations 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: for this week, go to Seahawks Newstab on seahawks dot 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 6: com Fantasy Insider, and also check out my complete rankings 119 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: on rotobowler dot com. Back to you, Jen and John 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 6: for Week sixteen, and happy holidays everyone. 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: Thank you Scott. 122 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio by Sony, 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. 124 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: So let's get into this matchup just a little bit more. 125 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: John, when you talk about exceeding expectations, I love the 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: conversation that you had with your counterpart at the Vikings 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: to try to get a little bit of insight on 128 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: what's going on with this team, because it is not 129 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: luck and it's not just scheme. 130 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: There is something else happening in Minnesota. 131 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it's just one of those 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: classic It's not one just oh my goodness, this one thing. 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: It's like a lot of things came out that they 134 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: did well in free agency. They added a bunch of 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: pieces to that defense, and they have, you know, great 136 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: scheme on both sides of the ball. And then I 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: mean obviously big Pieces has to be the quarterback. That's 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: I mean, that's true for any NFL team, But you know, 139 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: people think McCarthy's probably going to come in and eventually 140 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: take over that job, and then he gets hurt and 141 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: it's like Sam Darnold's kind of you know, he obviously 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 5: came in as a highly drafted guy, number three overall pick, 143 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: but you know, things didn't work out with the Jets, 144 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: which has been true with a lot of quarterbacks we've 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 5: gone to that franchise, So maybe we don't put it 146 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: all on him. But yeah, I mean, not entirely the 147 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: same path as Gino Smith, but a lot of similarities 148 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: of you know, a hyped guy early doesn't work out, 149 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: a lot of people have given up on him, and 150 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: he gets in the right situation and he's playing some 151 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: really good football. 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: He is, and that is a scary thing for the 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: Seahawks to think about, and it's also kind of interesting 154 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: the way it shows up on tape. 155 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: According to Mike McDonald. 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 7: I've only gone against Sam and since he like in 157 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 7: backup duty where he hasn't been the main, the main starter, 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 7: just he just feels like he's playing really really decisive, 159 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 7: really confident. You can see all the talent coming to life. 160 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 7: So I think he's I think he's doing a heck. 161 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Of a job. 162 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 7: I mean, their their offense is playing a high level 163 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 7: and the arm talent is there. Being able to hit 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 7: all the you know, all the all the throws in 165 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 7: all the areas of the field. Seems like he can 166 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 7: get it there pretty seamlessly and it's on time. And 167 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 7: then you know, one thing about his game that that 168 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 7: we respect is just the ability to extend the play. 169 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 7: So that's something we're gonna have to account for. 170 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: As well well. 171 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: And when you look at some of these numbers, he's 172 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: got a nine game streak where he has passed for 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: at least two hundred yards. It's the longest active streak 174 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: in the NFL. You want to know who has the 175 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: longest streak of those games this year? You know, Gino 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: Smith went twelve straight games with two hundred or more yards. 177 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: That ended on Sunday when he was not able to 178 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: finish the game against the Packers. The good news, kind 179 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: of the side note that I'm sure you've all heard about, 180 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: Gino did participate in practice this week. He is trending 181 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: the right direction towards Sunday will get more into that 182 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: in just a minute. 183 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: But the other kind of part of Sam Darnold. You 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: can look at the number. 185 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: Of explosive plays fifty five passes of twenty or more 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: yards that leads the league, and he's got a passer 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: rating of one hundred plus in eleven of fourteen games 188 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 3: this season. This is a totally different guy than we've 189 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: ever seen. 190 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's again, sometimes for quarterbacks, it's like 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: they get given up on and you forget this guy 192 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: was drafted very highly for a reason. There's a lot 193 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: of talent there, and you put him in the right 194 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 5: situation where you know, the weapons they have in that 195 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: team are pretty nuts. 196 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: They've got, you know, an offensive. 197 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 5: Coordinator or a former quarterback who's a head coach out 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: and got that offensive coordinator play caller mindset. So it's yeah, 199 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 5: I think he just got himself into a really good 200 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 5: situation and he's taken full advantage. 201 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: And you talk about the weapons that he has around him, 202 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: there's some pretty good ones. I mean, Justin Jefferson by 203 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: himself is pretty good, but Jordan Addison adds another dimension 204 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: and does create some complications on the back end of 205 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: the defense. 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 7: Those guys they play all the positions, so you got 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 7: to count for him and. 208 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: All the spots. 209 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 7: Probably the most averse route tree that we're going to 210 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 7: get from a duo yet this year, and they deserve 211 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 7: a lot of credit for that because that's not easy 212 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 7: to learn all the spots, learn all the routes, and 213 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 7: then having the timing with the quarterback so you can 214 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 7: still play on time. So easier said than done. Yeah, 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 7: just two really dynamic players that we're going to have 216 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 7: to count for. Can't double everybody all the time, so 217 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 7: we're gonna have singles and our guys will be matched 218 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 7: up and let's go to work. 219 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: The Seahawks really like the cornerbacks they have, you know, 220 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: led by Spoon and Riku Wollen. Yeah, as he said, 221 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: you can't double everybody every play. Sometimes a guy is 222 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: going to be on island and have to make a 223 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: play and that's no easy task for those guys. 224 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, and Kobe Bryant was saying this week that part 225 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: of what those two do is force you to play 226 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 3: a little tighter, a little closer. You're not going to 227 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: be able to have that same sort of like pad 228 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: and safety in the back end. But justin Jefferson with 229 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: twenty four receptions of twenty or more yards that leads 230 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: the league. Almost nineteen percent of the Vikings offensive plays 231 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: are explosive, so you really you have to play tight, 232 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: you have to play smart. And I would say this, John, 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: maybe the blessing and disguise of last week's game and 234 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: a couple of those DPIs whether you agree with the 235 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: defensive pass interference calls or not. It has been in 236 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: the conversation and a point of emphasis this week because 237 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: you know it's going to come into play on Sunday. 238 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. 239 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: A team that's going to throw downfield a lot that 240 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: puts a lot of stress on a defensive back who's covering. 241 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: And I mean both those EP has lost. 242 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 5: Those are so hard, those underthrown beat balls where it's like, 243 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: especially the one that called on Josh Job was like, 244 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: you're playing that perfectly, You're right there, you're running side 245 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: for stride and then the receiver throws on the brakes 246 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: and it's I mean, by the rule, it's a penalty, 247 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 5: but that's such a tough call on the DV. 248 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: It is and I don't know that you have any 249 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: different coaching points on that one. However, when you emphasize 250 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: something in practice, and I'm not saying that they don't 251 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: always do that, but I am sure that it is 252 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: a bigger part of the conversation this week. The huge 253 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: conversation taking place for Seattle is what offensive weapons will 254 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: they have at their disposal. It's not just Gino that 255 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: we were looking at. It's Ken Walker, it's Olu Oluwa, Timmy, 256 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 3: There's there's been a number of guys that we're checking 257 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: in on, and I think everybody can kind of breathe 258 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: just a little bit of a sigh of a relief 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: on Gino. 260 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 7: Gino feels good, did walk through today. We'll see how 261 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 7: many reps. We got a plan for practice, We'll see 262 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 7: how it kind of alters as practice arts is a clare, 263 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 7: but he'll be out there for a significant capacity today. 264 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 7: We'll see how many reps he takes. 265 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: And that was before Wednesday's practice, and then Gino Smith 266 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 5: was a full participant on the injury report. So yeah, 267 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you can't guarantee anything this early in the week, 268 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 5: but it would sure seem like they're going to have 269 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: their quarterback, which it's an obvious point, but that's a 270 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: pretty damn big deal for the Seahawks have Gino Smith 271 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: out there. After you see him, you know, limping off 272 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 5: the field and not able to return. You know, your 273 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 5: mind can go to bad places there. But going to 274 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: this very important three game stretch, they should have their quarterback. 275 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: Well. I also think it's not just having Geno out there. 276 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: It is having his playmaking ability to get the ball 277 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: down field. It is also just dealing with the pressure 278 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: that the Vikings are going to bring. I mean that 279 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: that is kind of characteristic of Brian Flores and you 280 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: look at him and it looks like they're going to blitz. 281 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily the case, but it is unique in 282 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: the way that he attacks an offense. 283 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 7: I think they're They're roster is designed where guys can 284 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 7: do multiple things, getting out of different fronts and structures 285 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 7: without having to declare their personnel. So that helps the 286 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 7: stats and like the pressures and the zeros. That's that's evolved, 287 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 7: and it kind of it's for week to week type deal, 288 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 7: but you kind of know what they can get to 289 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 7: at any given point and not afraid to come after 290 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 7: you at any given point in the game, you know, 291 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 7: which is not as common as you might think. 292 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: He got me with a pause there. 293 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 5: I was almost talked over, just tried to cut him off, 294 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 5: just like a press conference. 295 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: I like how he. 296 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 5: Did reference to stats, how they're not always quite right, 297 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: because it was funny. And DK Metcalf's press conference. Brady 298 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: Henderson of ESPN great at what he does. He asks 299 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 5: a question about their blitz right being high, and he's, 300 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 5: you know, referencing in the ESPN stats. And DK's point 301 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: was like, well, that's not exactly accurate because they're a 302 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: team much like the Seahawks, not the same scheme, but 303 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 5: one thing they have in common is they like those 304 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: simulated pressures where it's we're only sending for, but you 305 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 5: don't know which for. And that's where it gets tricky 306 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: for a defense or for an offense. Excuse me where 307 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: you got. You know, you might have eight guys mugg 308 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 5: and the line of scrimmagines four going to drop, four 309 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: gonna come, and you don't know who it's going to be, 310 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: and that that can be a big challenge for everybody. 311 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: Yes, And you know, as I was talking to Ken 312 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: Walker yesterday, he said, look, your communication happens before the snap. 313 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: Once that ball is snapped, you're not talking to the 314 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: guys next to you, right, So like you're trying to 315 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: identify on your own and hoping that everybody is seeing 316 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: the same thing that you're seeing, which is how it 317 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: ends up breaking down. You know what's funny because I 318 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: was kind of chuckling about that exchange yesterday with DK 319 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: and Brady, and I totally get it because then I'm 320 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: reading on the Viking's own website, and the Viking's website 321 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: in their article that's written about the matchup this week, 322 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: says that Minnesota's thirty eight point nine blitz percentage on 323 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: dropbacks is higher than five and a half percent higher 324 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: than Kansas City. And I started to think about that 325 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: and wondered, wait a minute, are they counting it the 326 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: same way that we're counting it? And yeah, maybe they're 327 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: getting fooled on what they're seeing. 328 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all these I mean, they're great tools. I mean, 329 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: this is a whole other conversation, but yes, all these 330 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 5: different forms of analytics they're great tools, but they're not 331 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 5: an exact science. You have people who aren't in the 332 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: meeting rooms, who aren't part of the game plan, making 333 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: somewhat subjective decisions when they're evaluating it. So it's imperfect, 334 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 5: but it's good data. But yeah, I just kind of 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: find here DK be like, where are you getting that? 336 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 337 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: And then also to hear him rattle off all the 338 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: numbers and he's like, Nope, it's this, this, this and this, 339 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: and you're like, wow, I know that you guys game prep, 340 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: but to know the tendencies that specific now. 341 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Only on Wednesday. He's got three more days. 342 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: I mean, imagine what else he's learning it. It will 343 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: probably blow my mind. 344 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: You know, here's the number that is not in question though, 345 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: the sixty hurries that have been forced by that Vikings defense. 346 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: They're the most in the NFL this year. 347 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: And when you take a look at Seattle and what's 348 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: happening on the other side of the ball, Gino Smith 349 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: is being pressured on a lot of his dropbacks, in fact, 350 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: the highest rate of any quarterback in the league. 351 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: And right now I'm looking at that number. 352 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the number quick pressure on eighteen 353 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: point nine percent of his dropbacks. 354 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: So you need a healthy. 355 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: Gino Smith and you also need an offensive line to 356 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: come together a little better than life. 357 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: Last week, Yeah, it was. 358 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 5: It was tough because the Arizona game two weeks ago, 359 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: we're talking about the best performance that lines had all year. 360 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 5: No sacks, two quarterback hits, season high rushing yards. To me, 361 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: so much of this goes back to game situations, how 362 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: the game's unfolding. You're playing from behind the whole way 363 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: against Green Bay and you can't run the ball, or 364 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 5: I shouldn't say you can't. They had some success right 365 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: the all, but you're just not running the ball much 366 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: a lot because of the game situation, and you're getting 367 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: behind the sticks and they know you're throwing, and that's 368 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: just where it becomes so much harder for an offensive line. 369 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 5: So that's why, you know, as cliche as it sounds, 370 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: if you get that running game going, if you're succeeding 371 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: on first and second down, that's why we saw in 372 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: Arizona there just weren't as many chances for the Cardinals 373 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: to get after it. 374 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: Right. 375 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: It is also starting fast, right, and the defense said 376 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: the same thing. The coaching staff said the same thing. Right, 377 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: It is tough when you go down two scores. I 378 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: did talk to a couple of guys on the offensive 379 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: line because the number, when you say, it's hard to 380 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: put stock in the ratings absolutely true. 381 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: When you are. 382 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: Grading an offensive line, there is no I'm really sorry 383 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: for the fans of PFF and I have talked to 384 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: the guys at PFF and I've said, look, I really 385 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: appreciate you trying to quantify it. Those numbers mean nothing, 386 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: right unless you're sitting in the room with the offensive 387 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: line coach for that team, they mean nothing. 388 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: I say that Stawelamea did not have a great game 389 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: based on the numbers. 390 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you talk to some of those guys on 391 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: the on line and go, look, he's a rookie. He 392 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: had a rookie game. We've all had one of those 393 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: games where you get your butt kicked and you can't 394 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: It's like having a bad day at work, right, Like 395 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: it just snowballs. You have one bad thing happened, and 396 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: then the next bad thing. 397 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: And you can't pull yourself out. 398 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: It's unfortunate that it happened in that game, but it's 399 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: all part of that growth and that learning curve. And 400 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: it's nice to have consistency and start the same unit 401 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: that does not make up for experience. 402 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 5: No, and that's hopefully he learns from it. And you know, 403 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: he played really well. A couple weeks ago, I would 404 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: expect him to bounce back and be better. So yeah, 405 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 5: but again, I think the best thing you can do 406 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: for that offensive line is, as you said, startle faster, 407 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: keep the game balanced where it's not just these situations 408 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 5: where the Vikings can bring that pass rush, whether we're 409 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 5: calling it a blitz or not right exactly, they can 410 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 5: do these things that make it tough on the offensive 411 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 5: line and on the quarterback. 412 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 413 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: I also really just liked I always liked the perspective 414 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: of Abe Lucas, and so I was asking, you know, like, oh, so, so, 415 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: like does the game plan need to look different with 416 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: more he goes. Look, you can game plan all you want, 417 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: and it very rarely goes according to plan. I was like, Oh, 418 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: that's kind of like life, Like that sea goes. Yeah, 419 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: it's pretty much a metaphor for life. You think you've 420 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: got it all worked out and it is not even 421 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: the case. 422 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 423 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 424 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. We've got a 425 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: little bit more offensive line conversation. 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When you do Delta Official airline of 436 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. 437 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: I promise some kudos to the offensive line. I had 438 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: no idea that this was a stat of Lake and 439 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: Tomlinson until you and I were talking to him in 440 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: the locker room this week. John, what is the milestone 441 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: that he passed against the Green Bay Packers. 442 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: So, first, for some background, Laken, Tomlinson's wife, Rachel is 443 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: smarter than. 444 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: All of us. 445 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: She's combined. 446 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 5: Yes, he's a PhD. Who I'm not even to try 447 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 5: to explain what she does because it's just way too, 448 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: way too advanced for us. But in addition to her 449 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: real job, she also likes to get really nerdy with 450 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: the football stuff, you know, especially when supporting her husband, 451 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: which is lovely to see. Earlier this year, she pointed 452 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 5: out how rare it is for a player to get 453 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: to one hundred and fifty starts, which he did earlier 454 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: this season, and this week it was he went over 455 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: the ten thousand snap threshold, which of players he was 456 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 5: a twenty fifteen draft pick, of players from his draft class, 457 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: and more recent he has played the most snaps of 458 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: any offensive player and he's in I think it's fourteenth 459 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: from this chart, she tweeted, of every active player. So yeah, 460 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: I mean he's had a heck of a career just 461 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: in terms of being a really good player. The combination 462 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: of being good and durable to be on the field 463 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: that long like he has. 464 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty commendable. 465 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: And so just for reference, because we were also trying 466 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: to look up Jason Peters numbers to figure out like, okay, 467 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: wait a minute, Like this is impressive, but where does 468 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: he rate according to Jason Peters. Poor Jason Peters is 469 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: okay for the day, folks, Yeah, Jason Peters has crashed 470 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: the forty. 471 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: Year old threshold. 472 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: He's forty two and the I think he's actually forty three. 473 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: Hang on a second, I have his page up. Let 474 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: me tell you how old he is. This is really exciting. 475 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: Great radio, great radio. 476 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: Right here. 477 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: They don't have it in front of me. It doesn't 478 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: matter he's over forty. Here's here's the problem. 479 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: The numbers only go back to two thousand and thirteen, 480 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: and we only have half of his stats because he 481 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: entered the league in two thousand four. 482 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so half his career. He's played eight thousand snaps. 483 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: Right, regular season snaps. 484 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: But when I was going to point out, like what 485 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: this means, so when he was playing a full sixteen 486 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: games as a left tackle for the Eagles, he was 487 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: getting over one thousand snaps in the regular season. That's 488 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: we're not counting playoffs in Super Bowl runs. So Laken, 489 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: just kind of you. If you use that, you're getting 490 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: like nine hundred to one thousand snaps a year. That's 491 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: really impressive. Yeah, that also feels like a car wreck 492 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: every Monday morning. 493 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: Well, especially that position. 494 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 5: Yes, like no offense to quarterbacks or kickers or whatever, 495 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 5: but like a lot of them come out of a 496 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 5: game pretty healthy. Quarterback to get hit, but if things 497 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 5: go well for quarterback, you come out of the game 498 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 5: feel pretty good. Offensive lineman, you can play the best 499 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 5: game of your life and you're going to come out 500 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: of game hurting. 501 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: It is true, and yet he's always smiling. I would 502 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: also say you are treading very close to a hot 503 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: button topic in the locker room. Job. 504 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: What's that? 505 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: Well, you've heard the guys debating who has the harder job? 506 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 4: Have you ever? 507 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: You've heard the DB's debating like if your job is 508 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: harder than linebackers? And then the linebackers are like, but 509 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: every time I hit somebody, it's like a car wreck, 510 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: and the dbs are like, yeah, but I'm on an 511 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: island back here. 512 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: I am not taking sides on this one. 513 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you this is a hotly debated topic 514 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: in the locker room. 515 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to just depend on how you like. 516 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: Quarterback is the most mentally demanding, like what you have 517 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 5: to process? 518 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: A center's probably pretty close. 519 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think anyone would give you that quarterback 520 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 5: has the most on their plate. You could say cornerback 521 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: maybe is the most physically demanding in terms of movement, skills, speed, 522 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 5: all things you have to do. But it's not the 523 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: as you said, not the car that linemen and linebackers. 524 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: Is like, okay, we're the double team or do you 525 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: like eight hundred pounds pressing on you? 526 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: Yes, so then it's okay, what's the most physically you know? 527 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 5: So this is how you want to look at They're 528 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 5: all hard. Look this is you don't get to this 529 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 5: level of this sport without being really freaking good at 530 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 5: what you're doing. 531 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: And they're all very challenging jobs in their own right. 532 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: By the way, you probably only have six hundred pounds 533 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: pushing on you because I don't think you have four 534 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: hundred pound line Then I just this is why I 535 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 3: don't do numbers, spreadsheets or math on that one. This 536 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: NFL season, feel every play, every hit, every moment with 537 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: a Sony one thousand XM five noise canceling headphones, the 538 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. With premium noise cancelation, 539 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: you were in the zone, no distractions, just pure football. 540 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: Whether you are in your living room or on the go, 541 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: you will never miss a beat with Sony headphones. I 542 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: feel like we've spent a lot of time just talking 543 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: about the Seahawks and what they need to do, because 544 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: quite honestly, John, it really comes down to them. You 545 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: can talk about the weapons that the Vikings have. 546 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: We haven't even touched on. 547 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: The running game with Aaron Jones, and we haven't mentioned 548 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: the specific playmakers on defense. But to me, everything comes 549 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: back to how Seattle executes. And I would have thought 550 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: we're getting close to our two things that I need 551 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: to see. I would have thought with the energy and 552 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: the building on Sunday, it would have been a different start. 553 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: And I would have thought, just based on how some 554 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: of these games have gone, that the record would. 555 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: Show a home field advantage. It hasn't, but we still 556 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: need the twelves on Sunday. 557 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think, you know, are we to our 558 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 5: things we want yet? 559 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: That let's transition. That was not a smooth segue, John, but. 560 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: It's it's a segue, hey, you know it'll take you know, 561 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: a little plunky. 562 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: So I was going to say, one of the things 563 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 5: I really want to see, and you touch on this earlier, 564 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 5: is a fast start. 565 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: And I don't care how it looks. 566 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 5: It could be the defense gets some turnovers even if 567 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: the offense isn't on its game, or maybe the offense 568 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: starts out in course two touchdowns, But that's going to 569 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 5: get the crowd going. That's going to pump up the 570 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 5: energy in that building. And I mean, we've seen how 571 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: much better this team operates, especially offensively, when they're not 572 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: having to chase a game from behind. So let's just 573 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: say I don't care how they get there. Was going 574 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: to the halftime with the lead. That's what I want 575 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: to see. 576 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Okay. Secondly, I wasn't really ready for a second one, but. 577 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: Wait a transition before being ready, John, let me. 578 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: Just make something up. 579 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: No, stop turning the ball over, especially in the red zone. 580 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: But just we've you know, they went two straight games 581 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: without an offensive turnover. We don't need to talk about 582 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: special teams against the Jets, but they win a couple 583 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: games without an offensive turnover, and we saw what that 584 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: did for him. And then you turn over a couple 585 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: of times and it gets you in a lot of trouble. 586 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 5: So both those interceptions very costly. One cost you a 587 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 5: potential touchdown, one set up a touchdown for your opponent. 588 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: So take care of the football. 589 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to be on your side with scoring fast. 590 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: And I would also say be consistent in your scoring 591 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: because the Vikings have held opponents scoreless in twenty one 592 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: quarters this season. 593 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 4: That is the most of any team in the league. 594 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: So it's nice to get out to an early start, 595 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: but you're gonna have to keep the foot when they 596 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: get out exactly so that. 597 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: You can keep the pressure on. 598 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: We did not talk too much about the running game 599 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: outside of the fact that ken Walker is trending towards plane, 600 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: which would be good. 601 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: This number blew my mind. 602 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: The Vikings defense has contacted opposing rushers behind the line 603 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: of scrimmage on over forty four percent of their carries, 604 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: and they've allowed less than three hundred yards before contact. 605 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: That is the second lowest in the league. That means, folks, 606 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: that they are busting through. They're playing on the other 607 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 3: side of the line of scrimmage and you are going 608 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: to have to get up ahead of steam to get 609 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: some positive yards against this line. So I want to 610 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: see ken Walker after a couple of weeks not being 611 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 3: on the field, I want to see him use that 612 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: power and his ability to avoid defenders and get that 613 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: ground game going. 614 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: Does that sound like a plan? Sounds great? Okay, I 615 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: like that point. 616 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see, We'll see how that plays out, and 617 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to work to get John on board with 618 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: our holiday plans for next week. We're going to be 619 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: on a short week next week. There's still going to 620 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: be stuff to talk about. That's the next time you 621 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: will hear from us on the Seahawk Insiders podcast