Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets
Speaker 1: are on sale now to see me on tour, the
Speaker 1: Prince of Christmas Tour. That is, I'm doing my whole
Speaker 1: album have you heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more
Speaker 1: with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www
Speaker 1: dot Matt rodgersofficial dot com to see me in a
Speaker 1: city near you.
Speaker 2: And now Lost cult drums. Look, oh, I see you
Speaker 2: my own and look over there is that the culture? Yes, goodness,
Speaker 2: Lost culture ding dong, lost culting. This is breaking bread culture.
Speaker 3: We are breaking absolute chabada back get Pacaca. Tonight is
Speaker 3: the friends giving episode of Lost Coat.
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that?
Speaker 3: It's giving friends. You are all invited, you know, auditorily
Speaker 3: in a sense. Don't come to my house please, there's
Speaker 3: not room. It would be too much if you guys
Speaker 3: all came over, but one at a time, one at
Speaker 3: a time. Please, you're invited to this whole up based down.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, now you're getting horny. Not you insinuating?
Speaker 2: You like to be stuffed before all this stuff. They're
Speaker 2: all I like to be sniffied and sniffed. Have you
Speaker 2: ever gotten on Sniffy's. Oh of course I brows. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't have the gumption, the bravery to the braver
Speaker 3: to post up on it, to literally post on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I've never downloaded Sniffies. I've never went there.
Speaker 2: You know my download it's a website. Oh is it
Speaker 2: a website? I didn't even know experience. You were so innocent.
Speaker 2: I'm so I'm like the young Doe. I'm like the
Speaker 2: young Lamb, young Lamb, a female de Wait, that would
Speaker 2: be a good rendition, a female de Yeah, but this
Speaker 2: isn't that kind of No, it's not beside the point
Speaker 2: because Dough is still the like Dough, ray me. What
Speaker 2: are you trying to get out? What I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get at is if you sort of did alterations with
Speaker 2: that melody, it was sort of like, no, as long
Speaker 2: as you hit the as a long as you get
Speaker 2: each first exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry, Please
Speaker 2: take the liberty, do d I'm sorry, this is now
Speaker 2: music theory podcast. Oh my god, what's your experience of music?
Speaker 2: That shit is hard. I don't know how y'all memorize
Speaker 2: the circle of fifths, you know, music theory girls. It's
Speaker 2: actually something I never thought I would be able to understand.
Speaker 2: And now I'm in my I'm in three times a
Speaker 2: week vocal lessons, getting ready for this. You hear it
Speaker 2: and I'm now understanding. Oh, it's just about like it's
Speaker 2: just something to learn. It's something to learn. It's math,
Speaker 2: it's something that half the back of your head. Right.
Speaker 2: Do you think you can develop perfect pitch? I think
Speaker 2: you could hear a tone and then call it. Call it.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, that's any sharp. You definitely could, No,
Speaker 2: I can be definitely could.
Speaker 3: I can call an a just because I grew up
Speaker 3: with my One of my only toys as a young
Speaker 3: cable list child was the metronomey, So you're just playing
Speaker 3: around with the metronome, went, was that me? That's I
Speaker 3: think that's an a readers case. Pulps is finalists, perfect
Speaker 3: pictures for anyone to have perfect picture finalists?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, you know, speaking of finalists, tons of finalists,
Speaker 2: kind of storming the culture. Look at this list of
Speaker 2: things that have happened in culture. Hit all. Look at
Speaker 2: this list. What you see what's number two on hot ones? Bow?
Speaker 2: And on hot ones? You have to talk about your experience.
Speaker 2: Well you want to go in order on the list, Well, literally,
Speaker 2: the first thing is this is what I wrote down.
Speaker 2: Wicket is out, critically beloved, huge at the box office.
Speaker 2: Hold space for that old space with the lyrics, hold
Speaker 2: space with let's talk about success, because can I just say,
Speaker 2: let's talk about it, Tracy Gilchrist, if you're listening, I've
Speaker 2: had the privilege of talking to Tracy before. She is
Speaker 2: a wonderful journalist. She holds space.
Speaker 3: She does, and that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this was again important context. I think it's really
Speaker 3: vital for people to know that this was the week
Speaker 3: of the election that was recorded the weekly Election. Yes,
Speaker 3: emotions were high, feelings were raw, Like I think that
Speaker 3: really touched Cynthia, even if Tracy only saw it on
Speaker 3: two posts.
Speaker 2: That well, I work in Crimitius. I have seen a
Speaker 2: couple of posts the whole thing of the pinky too.
Speaker 2: It's all funny to me, all so good.
Speaker 3: Everyone's having fun with it, and you know, like you're
Speaker 3: gonna get that moment in the press tour with a
Speaker 3: queer outlet, like out with someone like Tracy who looked fabulous,
Speaker 3: and she did, she looks great and Also, I just
Speaker 3: I love that we all kind of got on board
Speaker 3: with it and lost our minds just a little bit,
Speaker 3: because God, baldan Down is out here posting it. Tweeting
Speaker 3: about bald end Down is an icon.
Speaker 2: The biggest preda is.
Speaker 3: What I found out after the fact that she was
Speaker 3: trying to get in on the John Mlaney Chopper own
Speaker 3: episode of S and Now and I could have so
Speaker 3: easily on her ticket.
Speaker 2: Oh that will be made up, and we will make
Speaker 2: that up to you.
Speaker 3: Bald end Down, any show you want the season, Please
Speaker 3: let me know what would happily have you arrived.
Speaker 2: Come.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm so sorry. I can make schaple happen. But
Speaker 3: you are so important to the culture. Balding ePAT, She's
Speaker 3: accurate tweeting this video is changing the way I talk.
Speaker 2: Yep was bald Endaud the one that was like, it's
Speaker 2: a language I don't understand, but they do. Someone was
Speaker 2: like they are speaking a language fluently with each other
Speaker 2: that I do not speak, and like breaking down every
Speaker 2: single thing of it. The holding of just the pinky,
Speaker 2: the accepting of the compliment as if she wrote the song.
Speaker 2: That's really powerful. That's really that's what I wanted. That's
Speaker 2: what I wanted to have. Every element of it is
Speaker 2: part of a larger conversation that I want to have
Speaker 2: about the wicked press stour, which is it's incredible, it
Speaker 2: is so funny and like, it's amazing, it is funny,
Speaker 2: and the fact that we will think back on this
Speaker 2: press stour, this is so fun and the image we
Speaker 2: will have in our brains is Ariana wiping away at
Speaker 2: the air around her face so she doesn't cry. And
Speaker 2: that image of them running away from just like them
Speaker 2: hiding from their own tears, sorates this presstur And the
Speaker 2: same way that there could be one hundred people in
Speaker 2: a room serrated the Star Wars press story, we would
Speaker 2: always remember this press store. And if it's irritating you, honey, honey,
Speaker 2: you don't want it, it's gonna be. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: over very soon. We're gonna do it again, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna do it again next year, who knows, who knows,
Speaker 2: who knows, But thank you so much for saying that
Speaker 2: it's funny. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: Everyone's also like it is sitting next to the fact
Speaker 3: that they are both giving Oscar worthy performances and.
Speaker 2: Now we can say it because now they've said it,
Speaker 2: they being all the critics and everything, like I was
Speaker 2: saying in the beginning, I was everyone that was kind
Speaker 2: of like being very gay about it and being like
Speaker 2: it will be nominated for Oscar Lily, Like, now let's
Speaker 2: not set a bar that's crazy high totally. But then
Speaker 2: having seen it, I left being like, Oh, this movie's
Speaker 2: got it, like it can go the distance because it
Speaker 2: emotionally works at every emotional beat. Heads. Yes, and the
Speaker 2: performances are very rich, and the characters are complex and dynamic,
Speaker 2: and you know the world is so fun. Yes, and
Speaker 2: now you're seeing I think on gold Derby. As of today,
Speaker 2: Arianna is in the two spot in Supporting Actress and
Speaker 2: Cynthia is at seven, And suddenly that best Actress category
Speaker 2: looks very crowded, dacked, stacked, sacked category.
Speaker 3: Can I just say when we're thinking about the of course,
Speaker 3: the crying, Yeah, we got to experience that individually, yes,
Speaker 3: on this podcast, And let's just say like in the
Speaker 3: room it gets you. Yeah, And it's and watching Cynthia
Speaker 3: tear up about this character that she obviously has has
Speaker 3: sat with for years. Yeah, just let her Yeah, like
Speaker 3: she delivered. Everything else is just fun, is just fluff basically,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's actually really Coach number six.
Speaker 3: Let actresses be actresses. Let actresses be actresses. That's what's
Speaker 3: what's what they're going to do. And it can confirm
Speaker 3: from us. I think maybe being the first interview where
Speaker 3: there were tears shed and this wasn't even when they
Speaker 3: were together. We separated them.
Speaker 2: We separated them. The emotions are real, they are very real.
Speaker 2: Like I'm mom, am I out here just like crying.
Speaker 2: I was about to say I'm not out here just
Speaker 2: like crying, but I guess I kind of am. Anytime
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 3: It's so, it's real, it's real, it's wonderful, it's earned.
Speaker 3: I don't have the capacity to cry the way that
Speaker 3: I used to. If something's going on, it's just because
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Oh you feel too tired to cry? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: see when I'm tired, that's when it happened. Oh fun,
Speaker 3: I'm not classic like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's great. Let me. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna veer away from the tea word. The tea word.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's move on. We're not holding space for
Speaker 2: t word. We're not holding space for TEA word hot ones.
Speaker 2: I want to hear all about hot ones, because of
Speaker 2: course all the conversation, you know, as it should be,
Speaker 2: is all about them doing their press store. You have
Speaker 2: turned some l e wks and I specifically want to
Speaker 2: say kudos to you and the number one in the game,
Speaker 2: Michael Fisher, the number what you wore on the tonight show, Bitch,
Speaker 2: that suit was everything. Speak about that one. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Valentino had to toe Valentino very good.
Speaker 3: They they would not make a single session adjustment because
Speaker 3: it's Valentine. They go, no, you're wearing You had to
Speaker 3: tell Valentino he's not wearing anything else.
Speaker 2: When a house says we're dressing you, you listen to that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, period, I'm not. I am not pushing back.
Speaker 2: That was amazing. That was a great look, Michael Fisher,
Speaker 2: the king that you are dressing me for my tour.
Speaker 3: I mean this. This man doesen fu dressed Josh Nira
Speaker 3: and for the Dick's press tour.
Speaker 2: Dressing Sebastian Stan for all his stuff. By the way,
Speaker 2: can we say, can someone fucking up? Maybe this will
Speaker 2: be my I don't think so, honey, Yeah, but let
Speaker 2: me just say like right now, actually, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hold space on this one. It's Sebastian Stan related
Speaker 2: at the end of the episode, but that's kind about
Speaker 2: how it thinks to Honey talk about hot ones.
Speaker 3: So this is a dream, this is this is like
Speaker 3: such a cool opportunity. I'm hot, dusk culture down. You
Speaker 3: did amazing, Thank you. That was so much fun. I
Speaker 3: left buzzing. My stomach lining was only ruined for like
Speaker 3: one day. The rest of the day. Then I woke
Speaker 3: up the next day being like, oh I was I
Speaker 3: feel fine, but it was an experience on the toilet later,
Speaker 3: not even on the toilet, it was just like because
Speaker 3: I had a full like I had a day, I
Speaker 3: was running around and then it was.
Speaker 2: Just like, oh my stomach feels awful. So did you
Speaker 2: have more stuff to do after that? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So they say people that have done it were like,
Speaker 2: I'm so unhappy that I scheduled more things after that
Speaker 2: because of the way it fucked me up. You didn't
Speaker 2: experience all. I didn't experience that.
Speaker 3: I was just my bowels were irritated, and that was
Speaker 3: the syndrome I had.
Speaker 2: IBS.
Speaker 3: I hear you in that moment, and then just in general,
Speaker 3: I was worried about you as someone whose stomach is volatile.
Speaker 2: Wait, is this a thing about me? Because I have
Speaker 2: multiple toilet with you, in a room with you so
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 3: Sure, multiple people are like you are king of my
Speaker 3: tummy hurts, and I'm like, I don't say those words.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you ever say that. I just
Speaker 2: think you will have an intense bowel reaction. Well, I
Speaker 2: got my got biown checks. There, you got.
Speaker 3: What's the I'm so, I'm overall fine. I have a
Speaker 3: huge overpopulation of one fauna, which is the bacteria that
Speaker 3: creates all I guess.
Speaker 2: This is going to connect you with a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, guys. This is not for the
Speaker 2: first time I've said this. Look it up.
Speaker 3: This is not sponsored Florea dot com f L O
Speaker 3: r E not dot com.
Speaker 2: Just Google Florea, got buy dot gov? It should dot gov.
Speaker 3: Well, and the Biden administration because it's RFK Junior.
Speaker 2: Sure ain't touching that. No, we can't talk about it.
Speaker 2: But poop in the tube. Send it in. It will
Speaker 2: show you the world. Oh this is this is a
Speaker 2: call back to your poop in the tube. This is
Speaker 2: the poop and the two. Oh, so this is what
Speaker 2: it ended up saying, yes, and it's it was very
Speaker 2: valuable information, especially because you were going on the Hot
Speaker 2: one show.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm taking my you did custom made me
Speaker 3: pre biotic.
Speaker 2: How much of the experience was enjoyable from a taste perspective,
Speaker 2: so enjoyable, I would say.
Speaker 3: They're all very good hot tosses except Debam, which I
Speaker 3: always knew was that girl when Charlie's there and described
Speaker 3: it as battery acid. I said, well, now I know
Speaker 3: exactly what I'm in for. And it was even worse
Speaker 3: than I thought.
Speaker 2: Even worse than No, I have some? Do you want to
Speaker 2: try some? Oh? Kind of? Is it going to ruin
Speaker 2: my night? They let you take it with you. Part
Speaker 2: of the gift bag, part of this back bag is
Speaker 2: they give you one bottle of each. Do you want to?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? And we're having chicken tonight? Right?
Speaker 2: We're having chicken tonight? But should I wait? Or should
Speaker 2: I do it? Should I do want a dap just
Speaker 2: a little bit? Yeah, let's do a little dab episode,
Speaker 2: just one little dap. I don't want you. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I swear to God, no this is a huge moment.
Speaker 2: I don't need milk. You don't have any milk. You
Speaker 2: know what's funny about the milk of it all? I
Speaker 2: actually love drinking milk. Yes, me too, I love milk.
Speaker 2: That would be one of my favorite parts of being on.
Speaker 2: It's the case and washes away the spice. Do you
Speaker 2: want to try it? You know what, I'm actually not
Speaker 2: gonna try it, just because we have a full night
Speaker 2: of friends coming over and if I react badly, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I want that. And also I'm going to
Speaker 2: hold space for my opportunity to one day do the show. Yes, no, man,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna let I'm gonna kick it down that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep this way for myself that I wanted
Speaker 2: to get the opportunity to go. You will show, absolutely will, Matt.
Speaker 2: You are you are literally the superstar of my life. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's enough. More on.
Speaker 3: More on Sean Evan and chemistry with that was there chemistry?
Speaker 3: I just find him to be so charming and he's
Speaker 3: so thoughtful, such a great interviewer.
Speaker 2: Just comment below if you think that there was chemistry.
Speaker 2: Clip if you think she should suffer.
Speaker 3: Handsome guy, very handsome man, he is very handsome, and
Speaker 3: I bet in person it's even better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: But like, listen, you know me, like when I see someone,
Speaker 3: I'm not a big flirt. You don't think unless I
Speaker 3: really call my target, I'm like, I want to flirt
Speaker 3: with that person. M I'm just like, no, I'm a
Speaker 3: big flirt. I know you are who who loves that?
Speaker 3: Does someone knock?
Speaker 2: Okay, while he goes and checks and sees if someone
Speaker 2: just knocked, even though it's an hour before someone is
Speaker 2: supposed to be here, I'm gonna say so, he asked
Speaker 2: you actually this act, so it was all a great experience.
Speaker 2: You definitely were flirting. You said that he mirrors, he mirrors,
Speaker 2: so he so whatever you just by the way, let's
Speaker 2: just get this out of the way. I chose tenders. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: people are a wonder I love. I love a way.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to deal with bones that day because
Speaker 3: that just gets my my fingers get too oily and
Speaker 3: it just becomes a whole.
Speaker 2: I think you in even closer to legendary status when
Speaker 2: you chose tenders. Why why do you say something? Because
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people don't do that.
Speaker 2: I feel like people are just like, oh, no, I'll
Speaker 2: do the wing thing. Because I also think there is
Speaker 2: this ideology that like you're gonna go do the wing show,
Speaker 2: and like maybe this is like, you know, the patriarchy speaking,
Speaker 2: but it's like a real wing is on the bone,
Speaker 2: but you queer culture, you'll take it on the tender.
Speaker 3: Absolutely taken on the tender. Plus it's it's a bigger bite.
Speaker 3: It's more surface area. Like yeah, with a wing, you're
Speaker 3: kind of just like what puncturing the skin with your
Speaker 3: teeth and then you nibble this a little bit off
Speaker 3: and then it just kind of like it's a little
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know something about a tender. It's like you are. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I took some bites and I wouldn't understand that with
Speaker 2: a wing. Did you eat a lot of them? Or
Speaker 2: is a bite of each bite eight about a half
Speaker 2: of each And for some of them, like those early ones,
Speaker 2: I was like little dicks. It's the pair one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh that was interesting. I don't think i'd seen that one.
Speaker 3: But paar and ghost pepper or pair and habernaro. That's
Speaker 3: a wonderful sauce. I'm so excited to have it in
Speaker 3: my pantry.
Speaker 2: So you are one who has the bomb in your house.
Speaker 2: Now you have a weapon in your home. I have
Speaker 2: a weapon. You don't need to get a gun. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm someone comes into my house, I'm throwing that in
Speaker 2: their eyes. It's the bomb on site. Beyond ins beyond insanity.
Speaker 2: It's that bad. That bad. And the last dab delicious
Speaker 2: really okay good because it really, it really does.
Speaker 3: It peaks at the bomb and then like the last
Speaker 3: stabbed so but I noticed you did have a hard.
Speaker 2: Time with the second and last one too, like it
Speaker 2: was it wasn't food after it wasn't good.
Speaker 3: I would have tolerated it if the order had been
Speaker 3: the second life, if the bomb was the second last,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I hear you like all the way up to
Speaker 2: de bomb, I was like, this isn't that bad? I
Speaker 2: love you know, like my my sesshwenties food. I love
Speaker 2: my spices.
Speaker 3: I I look up hot sauce production videos when I'm
Speaker 3: eating a spicy meal at home by my lonesome.
Speaker 2: You were a legend on that thank you, and you
Speaker 2: were dragging your outside. But I thought, again, Michael Fisher
Speaker 2: killed Michael Fisher. That was a ware. It's so fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was good.
Speaker 3: That was a great time. I'm so grateful I got
Speaker 3: to do it and that whole crew, that staff. There
Speaker 3: loveliest people, the loveliest people in digital media, and we
Speaker 3: love First we faced a lot of people in the
Speaker 3: comments saying who is this guy?
Speaker 2: And I go, really, at this point, this is my
Speaker 2: this is my thing. I go, no one can possibly
Speaker 2: know who everyone is in the culture. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: really don't think so nothing, Like I don't even know
Speaker 2: who this is. It's like, okay, I don't know who
Speaker 2: half of the girls are and I don't know either,
Speaker 2: So like it's that's not a it's not a thing
Speaker 2: worth spending your thumb muscle energy typing. Oh so, it's like,
Speaker 2: if you're commenting on a video, who is this person?
Speaker 2: And the person you're talking about is in the video.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you watch the video you'll find a little
Speaker 2: bit of it, maybe you're about maybe you learn more
Speaker 2: about the person that you're Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're
Speaker 2: in lack in terms of knowledge about I thought it
Speaker 2: was a wonderful appearance. And when he asked you your
Speaker 2: mount rushmore of albums for the year, I did not
Speaker 2: leave that brap either way. They cut around that you
Speaker 2: definitely didn't have Brat in the episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that like it was, and people are calling me
Speaker 3: on it and rightfully, but I think what we must
Speaker 3: what you must understand, is that I did, of course
Speaker 3: give Bratt's flowers.
Speaker 2: Do you want to in an episode that we will
Speaker 2: not edit because this episode never has had its one
Speaker 2: every time? What is your actual amount? Rushmore of pop albums?
Speaker 2: And they're before so this will lead us into the
Speaker 2: Grammy nominations category. But I mean because we didn't get
Speaker 2: to talk.
Speaker 3: About it, I think you didn't get to talk about it.
Speaker 3: And things have since changed with Beyonce with this Christmas
Speaker 3: Yes performance. Yes, So I'm very excited about that. Me Zoo,
Speaker 3: that does change things for me. I'm like, thank you,
Speaker 3: She's giving us a moment with Cowboy Carter. I would
Speaker 3: put Cowboy Carter up there Brat for sure. See this
Speaker 3: is where it gets hard. I got two more slots.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say short and Sweet.
Speaker 2: Which didn't make it in the episode, and I revisited
Speaker 2: this week because I'm just like, this woman has the
Speaker 2: number one movie, the number one album, has had a
Speaker 2: number one album this year, and when single Eternal sentine
Speaker 2: is still so fucking Eternal Sunshine is fucking phenomenal. In fact,
Speaker 2: I was wearing like the sweatshirt the other day, and
Speaker 2: the merch goes off to speaking of a merch, I
Speaker 2: have Sabrina Carpenter Short and Sweet. I'm happy you said
Speaker 2: it has now re emerged back in the I don't
Speaker 2: know why I pit that against Eternal Sunshine. They're both
Speaker 2: excellent albums and very emblematic of the year I went
Speaker 2: to the tour. Please tell me you were there when
Speaker 2: Domingo was there. I was there when Domingo was arrested,
Speaker 2: and it was he was arrested for being too hot.
Speaker 2: Like the show was great. Of this show funny, so funny.
Speaker 2: Every song is good. Also, not only is every song
Speaker 2: and Short and Sweet good, And obviously in the show
Speaker 2: Justice for Tornado warnings. Oh, go back and listen to
Speaker 2: Tornado Walls. Yes, she knows, she knows how. It's like
Speaker 2: a really fun part of the show and just like
Speaker 2: I don't know, just the whole thing is a blast.
Speaker 2: Like Marcelo being up there as Domingo was so fun.
Speaker 2: Did you know what that guy did? Yeah, he flew
Speaker 2: out the writer writers.
Speaker 3: He spent his own coin and flew out the writers
Speaker 3: good and flew out on Kara and Hair the amazing
Speaker 3: Karen the wig Maker.
Speaker 2: What a fun moment. It was great. I was really
Speaker 2: happy to be there for that, and it was a
Speaker 2: really fun concert, really really just like a oh. Then
Speaker 2: I turned around, who's sitting next to each other behind me?
Speaker 2: And literally the entire I felt so weird about this
Speaker 2: because the entire stadium turns around and looks at the
Speaker 2: fact that je Jeffreys were there. Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: knew when they were catching up. Oh, and he was like,
Speaker 2: how do you spell your name again? It's coming up
Speaker 2: on the holidays. It's like, what the three year anniversary
Speaker 2: of our Gaylayan episode? You gotta try tois That's some
Speaker 2: of my proudest words, honestly, the Twelve Days of Christmas,
Speaker 2: the McDonald's episode, and the Gilayan episode and the Mary
Speaker 2: m Cosbia But twelve Days of chres The culture should
Speaker 2: do that again. Maybe we should yea four years has
Speaker 2: it been? I guess yeah, because that was twenty twenty twenty. Okay,
Speaker 2: so what was I saying? Oh? John Mayer and oh
Speaker 2: John Mayer and Katy Perry in the same but well,
Speaker 2: they clearly didn't know what was happening. And then I
Speaker 2: felt weird because everyone was turned with their phones out
Speaker 2: facing them, watching them talk, and I was just like
Speaker 2: facing forward, like you guys, please don't like.
Speaker 3: That's not But in the words of Jenner Maroney, respect
Speaker 3: celebrity privacy, respect.
Speaker 2: Celebrity privacy, celebrity rights. But everyone was enjoying the short
Speaker 2: and sweet tour. How did Juno go? Juno was amazing?
Speaker 2: Bad can looked so chem is great? Is Juno is
Speaker 2: probably now? Nowadays? Yeah, this song I listened to the
Speaker 2: Oh it's fantastic. By the way, Nonsense Christmas looks so fun,
Speaker 2: Lauren Mandell Culture Awards. The only reason you produced that
Speaker 2: to produce that down she produced nonsense Christmas. Yeah, we say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can say. I mean, we try to move heaven
Speaker 2: and Earth to do everywhere asked, asked to be in it.
Speaker 2: We can make it work. We're so to be lovey Sabrina.
Speaker 2: We were actually doing a Culture Awards related thing in
Speaker 2: la and she was shooting it in New York and
Speaker 2: we heard we got the ask and that would have
Speaker 2: been so fun. But it's been so fun. Oh well,
Speaker 2: next year is none sense? Christmas, Christmas. She's the perfect
Speaker 2: person to do a Christmas special. It's the humor. It's
Speaker 2: the Oh my god, if I just had the word
Speaker 2: humor after that, Oh my god, that was such a
Speaker 2: fun episode. Wasn't that fun? I listened back and I
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, this is even more fun than I remember.
Speaker 2: It's also about a pancake berk. Okay, what else is
Speaker 2: on the list? I have Charlie XCX on SNL. So
Speaker 2: that episode was so much fun. I have to say
Speaker 2: Shrek oh actually is back. Shrek is now permanent relevant monoculture.
Speaker 2: It's actually a rural culture. Number fifteen. Shrek is now
Speaker 2: permanent relevant monoculture. There's never a time because by the
Speaker 2: way they keep coming out with shreks.
Speaker 3: Yes, Rerek Five's coming, and also Puss in boots is oh,
Speaker 3: beIN off, come on, but Shrek will never not. What
Speaker 3: about you sent me a Lord Farquad.
Speaker 2: Thing the other day. I don't know why this is.
Speaker 2: So I don't know why this happened, but I found
Speaker 2: myself I like woke up from a blackout and was like,
Speaker 2: on Lord Farquad's Wikipedia, like looking at like information about
Speaker 2: his past, and I just like was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know why I'm here. I'm screenshotting this and putting this
Speaker 2: on my story. But it was basically like it was
Speaker 2: like farquad like like but I forget. It was like
Speaker 2: his basic info and I was just like, I don't
Speaker 2: know why I'm here, But the reason is because Shrek
Speaker 2: is on the plane. Shrek is never gonna be far
Speaker 2: from top of mind. Everyone. Not everyone. I had the privilege.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I go to the Today Show and
Speaker 2: then I'm here going tomorrow morning. Huh, I'm actually going
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. Yeah, I'm on the nine am hour. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, we're talking to hold on Johnna. No, I'm
Speaker 2: talking to reading. I'm reading the Now from Now and
Speaker 2: Crag and everybody. Oh yeahell crag Auroker. If you can
Speaker 2: talk to Sean Hickey today, Jenna Enhota want us to
Speaker 2: do something? What do they want us to do? Because
Speaker 2: you said at the end of segment there's going to
Speaker 2: be a surprise and a surprise for Hoda but Hoota
Speaker 2: kind of knows about it. But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: off link. Okay, I'm into it. I'm interested because I
Speaker 2: keep wanting to go involve us recording something in the studio. Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Now I think I have an idea about
Speaker 2: what this might be. And obviously you know I'm interested.
Speaker 3: I'm so interested to send off hote Kodby Are you
Speaker 3: kidding me? WHOA, Sorry, I'm saying too much. Hote a legend,
Speaker 3: hote a legend.
Speaker 2: She is a legend.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't believe I got to look
Speaker 3: her in the eyes and say thank you so much
Speaker 3: for the years you put in and for sharing everything
Speaker 3: about your life with us, about Hope and with and
Speaker 3: Haley like that is so special.
Speaker 2: God, I love her just the best? Would it be? Oh?
Speaker 2: I was on Today's show?
Speaker 3: And then in between segments, first of all, the stunning, wonderful,
Speaker 3: incredible pal Mescal.
Speaker 2: And I are next to each other in the dressing rooms.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she got to introduce herself to each other.
Speaker 2: He's so excited, He's I can't wait for him to host.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, he's show.
Speaker 3: And then lovely staff member on Today goes. But when
Speaker 3: John Liftgo would like for you to say hello, John Liftket,
Speaker 3: Lord Farquad himself, Wow, this is.
Speaker 2: Couldn't have been nice. John liftg would like for you
Speaker 2: to say hello. I was like I was being invited
Speaker 2: to meet the King. Wow, I mean in a way,
Speaker 2: in a way I've met him years ago. I interviewed
Speaker 2: him and Blithe Danner about a movie at Sundance, and
Speaker 2: they do they have the gravitas. They are like Americ.
Speaker 3: People constantly think he's British, Yeah, even though he's American.
Speaker 2: Yes, probably because the Churchill of it all is the
Speaker 2: Churchill of it all.
Speaker 3: But anyway, Shrek is on the brain farqquad. You know,
Speaker 3: I never got until years later that it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be like a play on fuquad.
Speaker 2: Oh is it really? Yes? See the thing about Shrek
Speaker 2: it was subversive, very subversive. I'll never forget. Like my
Speaker 2: grandfather was fighting me and when we was a kid,
Speaker 2: he was like, you really want to see this movie? Yes?
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to see it. It has
Speaker 2: a good review in Newsday, which was the Long Island newspaper.
Speaker 2: I was like, it has three stars, and newspaper, we're
Speaker 2: going it might even have four stars because whoever was
Speaker 2: reviewing that Newsday fucking understood the assignment. Yes, And my
Speaker 2: grandfather was like, all right, I can't believe we're going
Speaker 2: to see Shriek. And so we go there and immediately
Speaker 2: it starts giving this most biting humor. Yes, and he
Speaker 2: was Monday said, du luck is oh perfect, Please please
Speaker 2: keepop up at the grasshand your shoes wipe her face.
Speaker 2: So come on, this is great comedic work.
Speaker 3: Jennifer Saunders thinging holding out for a hero in the
Speaker 3: second one, Yes, Rupert Everett playing Prince Charming. That was
Speaker 3: the first time they let a gay man really go
Speaker 3: off into Fantasy world.
Speaker 2: Rupert Everett walked. So Jonathan Billy, Oh good period, twirl
Speaker 2: his ass. Thank you for that close up shop by
Speaker 2: the way, you know the shot I'm talking about, y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know Dance in your Life where he yeah, really
Speaker 2: has asked in face If you get to see that
Speaker 2: twenty feet tall at Imax, I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful. But I've been a fan of Jonathan Billy's
Speaker 2: Austince Bridgerton since Bridgerton in the first episode. You see it,
Speaker 2: and it's all it's going since crashing, since Final Fantasy fourteen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep saying it. Fellow travelers too. I mean,
Speaker 2: the sex scenes and fellow travelers are real and intense.
Speaker 2: Happy for everyone involved. It's so happy for those boys
Speaker 2: that they got to live their dream. But no, what else?
Speaker 2: What else about? I oh so so so so that
Speaker 2: we changed to distrect the musical and then she was
Speaker 2: so fun. So did you know from Charlie that she
Speaker 2: was doing Coachella? Did she tell you that? We know
Speaker 2: she didn't. It's a very close. Now they've announced Coachella
Speaker 2: for next year Daga headline. And when she took to
Speaker 2: Instagram and said I have long dreamed of hosting a
Speaker 2: night of Chaos in the desert, I said, you better
Speaker 2: talk to us about what you've long dreamed about.
Speaker 3: I'm long dreamed of toasting a night of chaos in
Speaker 3: the desert, right right, right, right, So the desert is
Speaker 3: the place for chaos, right, Gaga ending every sentence with right, perfect,
Speaker 3: It's right.
Speaker 2: She's going to be out there. So it's first of all,
Speaker 2: Friday Night is going to be freakish. Missy Elliott into Gaga.
Speaker 2: I can't believe. So, I can't believe you're working. I
Speaker 2: can go to second week, I can't for the first.
Speaker 2: Oh God, literally flying in Sunday to go to Are
Speaker 2: you actually going to get that? But do you know
Speaker 2: I haven't, mister Malone, Yes, oh, post Malone on Sundays,
Speaker 2: Megan the Stallion, I am.
Speaker 3: Just devastated to miss Charlie and Gaga and Missy Like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, that is really Green Day.
Speaker 2: I love Green Day. It's a pretty tough series of
Speaker 2: acts Tomists, but it's going to be worth it. Sunday
Speaker 2: is going to be amazing. We're gonna have a great time,
Speaker 2: Yes we will. I'm so excited about Twigs, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like the lineup is good, like I would say it's
Speaker 2: more exciting in the headliner space. But the thing about
Speaker 2: like not knowing a lot of the people on the
Speaker 2: because I'm not familiar with a lot of the acts,
Speaker 2: like below the line, below the line is you discover
Speaker 2: them and it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: I'm really That's that's how Chapel blew up.
Speaker 3: Yes, so you know, like that is Coachella at its
Speaker 3: best when it's like, oh this is a place where
Speaker 3: people like find someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chapel roon and the Gobi tent going absolutely off.
Speaker 2: You better go see Tea Pain this year. Oh there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm missing Tea Pain. My story last year,
Speaker 2: Dave Mazzoni and I were all we wanted was to
Speaker 2: see Tea Pain, but the Heineken House where he was
Speaker 2: performing was absolutely it's give. We had to do te
Speaker 2: Pain in the Coachella. I was there for my absolute sponsorship. Like,
Speaker 2: listen to this fucking sentence, you got to go. That's
Speaker 2: I did. I did get to go. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I cannot wait. I was hanging out
Speaker 2: with some friends the other night and just doing gay
Speaker 2: music videos and Disease came on and I go, this
Speaker 2: fucking video rules. It really does rules. It's so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like like something's going on in the culture
Speaker 3: right now where a lot of people are doing stuff
Speaker 3: in the suburbs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the music video space, what do you think
Speaker 2: is it to appeal?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think it's just it's just a
Speaker 3: fun backdrop always, especially when you have Debactri going on.
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on, speaking of the music space,
Speaker 2: any thoughts on the Grammy nominations.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I Awards season is upon Awards, season
Speaker 3: is upon us. I think for the most part, like
Speaker 3: what we wanted. Yeah, I think exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 3: But obviously Ari was snubbed. Barri snubs and she's like,
Speaker 3: I don't care. She's like, I've got Well, it's not
Speaker 3: that she doesn't care. I think she's just like, I'm
Speaker 3: on a totally different journey. I'm so proud of that album,
Speaker 3: but it's not top of mind, and in a way
Speaker 3: that I think is so healthy.
Speaker 2: My thing is like she's gonna get an OSCAR nomination,
Speaker 2: and of the nominations she did get, she can now
Speaker 2: say that she's nominated for a Grammy alongside Brandy and Monica,
Speaker 2: Like to me, it's me the morning was a wain dream,
Speaker 2: like to look at the list and see there is
Speaker 2: my name next to Brandy and Monica, as it should be.
Speaker 2: But like, I was so happy with that nomination because
Speaker 2: their vocal in that altogether was so crazy. That song
Speaker 2: is great, but I just that album is really spectacular.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to see all of the Album of the
Speaker 2: Year nominees six of the pop girl least and then
Speaker 2: Jacob Collier and Andrews two thousand for an instrumental album
Speaker 2: like it's a cuckoo year, like that they would do that,
Speaker 2: like and I guess, I guess the one big pop
Speaker 2: girl who missed out on the Album of the year
Speaker 2: nine was Arianna, maybe because it came out super early
Speaker 2: or March March, it feels earlier than everything else. It
Speaker 2: was September of last year, right, what are your what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts? Well, the thing that I had hoped,
Speaker 2: my predictions for winners, or at least my hopes for winners,
Speaker 2: can all happen. Yeah, and I hope they spread the wealth.
Speaker 2: I don't know that they will. I don't know that
Speaker 2: they will. My dream would be Album of the Year, BRAT,
Speaker 2: Record of the Year, Espresso, Song of the Year either
Speaker 2: Good Luck Babe or Birds of a Feather Chapel roon
Speaker 2: Best New Artist Pop Vocal Album. That is where Arianna
Speaker 2: could win. I would give it to her now that
Speaker 2: she isn't up for the other big ones, but I
Speaker 2: could see Sabrina taking it also Chapel that category stacked
Speaker 2: pop duo. I think you have to give it to
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars, but I could also sing it.
Speaker 2: I could also see it being Billy and Charlie because
Speaker 2: that song is fucking huge. It comes on and you
Speaker 2: feel so excited. Of course, it's so exciting. I do
Speaker 2: think Diaret a smile, Yeah, Diet the smile fastest billion
Speaker 2: and it's number one. Now I think it's like that
Speaker 2: song could could win a lot more than we think.
Speaker 2: And also I realize I didn't say Beyonce in any
Speaker 2: of that, but watch out for this Christmas Christmas thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a football game on Christmas?
Speaker 2: Did you know about that?
Speaker 3: I know that classically very big footbuckins on Thanksgiving and Christmas,
Speaker 3: But otherwise if it's part of her Netflix deal, yes,
Speaker 3: because it's it's the live game on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Okay, So people are all up in arms about the
Speaker 2: potential for this to be a nightmare because I guess
Speaker 2: big glitches with the Jake Paul Yeah, Jake Paul love
Speaker 2: blind stuff, like like Netflix is live. Thing is just
Speaker 2: always technically a little we gotta get it together. You
Speaker 2: gotta get it together for Beyonce. Comm on heed Head.
Speaker 2: Speaking of awards, have you been seeing any Oscar movies?
Speaker 2: I'm so behind? The answer is no, I have recently.
Speaker 3: Last time, I watched to Look Back, which I think
Speaker 3: will probably get nominated for It's Gonna be Time, but
Speaker 3: it's an only an hour long, it's a it's an
Speaker 3: anime movie. But I certainly think it might it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to categorize either. I need to do
Speaker 3: some more reading on this too. Like it should be
Speaker 3: up for Best Animated Film. It has a chance of
Speaker 3: being foreign Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got to look into like the
Speaker 2: criteria for short film. I actually don't know. I feel
Speaker 2: like it usually they are less than like okay, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know the ins and
Speaker 2: outs of that. Like I haven't been looking in I
Speaker 2: haven't been in that animated short space. I've been there
Speaker 2: the year that I really kind of go all the
Speaker 2: way down the ball. Are you a member of the Academy? Girl?
Speaker 3: If I were a member of the Academy, I would
Speaker 3: not leave the house. I would I would be on
Speaker 3: the app, the Academy app all day, all night. It's
Speaker 3: probably not far away for you.
Speaker 2: I listen. Janet Yang, the legend you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I got to meet Janet Yang at this event, and
Speaker 2: she was so nice to my parents. She spoke to
Speaker 2: my parents. I was like this, this woman can take
Speaker 2: over the world if she wants. Yeah, President of the Academy,
Speaker 2: the cheakest woman. Oh you're not. Your invitation is not
Speaker 2: far away, Well, I don't. I don't know you'll be
Speaker 2: getting one. But I'm really only in it for the app.
Speaker 2: I'll be transparent. I just want the Academy app on
Speaker 2: my Apple TV. I get that. I've seen a few things.
Speaker 2: I saw a real pain, yes Jesse the Eyes and
Speaker 2: Breaking Karen Culkin. I thought it was good. I mean
Speaker 2: I thought it was like, it's a great examination of
Speaker 2: that relationship, like a brotherly relationship, but you know, complicated
Speaker 2: and estranged. It's bizarre to me that people are saying
Speaker 2: like So I went and saw it because it had
Speaker 2: Oscar buzzed, and I was like, oh, Kieran Culkin is
Speaker 2: in the one spot on gold Derby for Supporting Best
Speaker 2: Supporting Actor. You go see it. He's in ninety five
Speaker 2: percent of theirs. So this is the theme of This
Speaker 2: is gonna be a theme of the year, I think.
Speaker 2: And then I was looking at Best Supporting Actress and
Speaker 2: Zoey's Heldonna is in the one spot and they're saying
Speaker 2: she's the lead of that movie. So I'm like, and
Speaker 2: I think there are very few people in that business
Speaker 2: as talented as Kieran Culkin and zoweys Hel Donna. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I think that like, if their performance is like that consideration,
Speaker 2: they should be in the Austar conversation. But the problem
Speaker 2: with just throwing rules to the side in a post
Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman world. Yes, my thing with when a lead
Speaker 2: performance wins or is nominated for a supporting category, it
Speaker 2: really just like it robs all those character actors and
Speaker 2: those supporting players of the opportunity to get that shine. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, it's just it's actually
Speaker 2: really because why even have a supporting category if you're
Speaker 2: just going to ignore the rules? And I can't help
Speaker 2: but wonder, like what exactly makes them feel like they
Speaker 2: can make those decisions sometimes, Like if Zoe Seldanna, the
Speaker 2: lead of Amelia Perez, who is also the lead of
Speaker 2: not just Avatar but also the Marvel series at large
Speaker 2: in Guardians, who has been a star since the late nineties,
Speaker 2: who has consistently worked year in and year out, why
Speaker 2: do they feel like they can bump her down to
Speaker 2: supporting bummer for everybody, because yeah, supporting ends up being
Speaker 2: this repository now it feels like, Oh, don't worry, we're
Speaker 2: gonna campaign you for the oscar, just not the one
Speaker 2: that is like the one, everyone's gonna be talking about
Speaker 2: why if Zoe Saldana is brilliant and Amelia Perez and
Speaker 2: I haven't sitting yet, but by all accounts she is
Speaker 2: like ferocious, her best performance whatever, then why aren't you
Speaker 2: campaigning Zoe Saldana. Yeah, someone literally everyone in America in
Speaker 2: the world has seen her movies. Why isn't she competing
Speaker 2: in Lead Actress if she's the lead of that movie.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why they have. Like, obviously it's
Speaker 2: a studio decision so they can hopefully maximize their opportunities
Speaker 2: to win more Oscars. But like you know, if you
Speaker 2: move Zoe to lead, maybe you do get two nominations
Speaker 2: and Best Actress with her, and you know Royla Sophia
Speaker 2: gascon Now they're talking about nominating Isabella Rossolini in Conclave,
Speaker 2: a movie I saw on Election Day God, which was
Speaker 2: rough to watch old white Catholic men count votes on
Speaker 2: election day and then check my phone. But Isabella at
Speaker 2: for supporting She has like maybe three scenes, doesn't really
Speaker 2: do much. Yeah, but she's gonna compete with Zoe Saldana
Speaker 2: the lead of the movie, and Ariana Grande, the lead
Speaker 2: of the movie. Like if these performances are good enough
Speaker 2: to be in lead, which they are. Put them there,
Speaker 2: put them there.
Speaker 3: It is interesting right now currently Golder because Mikey Madison
Speaker 3: the favorite for Best Actress.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Anura?
Speaker 3: I have not, I have, I'm meant to. I'm very behind,
Speaker 3: like I said, But yeah, it's like you're seeing your
Speaker 3: Angelina's and your Nicole's and you wonder if all the
Speaker 3: shuffling is just to make room for them.
Speaker 2: Where yeah, you must have wondered how they feel about it?
Speaker 2: Where I don't know. I mean, their feelings are important,
Speaker 2: but also like not the most important thing. But for me,
Speaker 2: the thing I'm thinking about the most is it's like
Speaker 2: you just want the opportunity to reward character work, and
Speaker 2: especially with someone like Hiaran Kulkin, who is a character actress.
Speaker 2: His entire career has played character roles, and he has
Speaker 2: built his career playing roles like this, and then he's
Speaker 2: a lead in the movie, especially after he wins a
Speaker 2: lead Emmy for a show that has three arguably four leads. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: they did the right thing with him there put him
Speaker 2: in the lead category. He wanted, deserved lead Emmy for that,
Speaker 2: Like why are you putting him in the supporting category.
Speaker 2: He's not a supporting role or a supporting actor. So
Speaker 2: the direction of this matters.
Speaker 3: Where it's on Olivia Coleman thing where she gets bumped
Speaker 3: up from supporting to lee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when the true leads were bumped to supporting. Well yeah,
Speaker 2: so it goes both ways in that situation.
Speaker 3: But like you're talking about how it moves from top down, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it moves down. Yes, you need to read
Speaker 3: Oscar Wars by Michael Shulman, Right, I do. I do
Speaker 3: idea you would love, you would eat it up.
Speaker 2: But I guess my point is, like, if we can
Speaker 2: lift like for example, Viola Davis in doubt Great Supporting
Speaker 2: nomination one amazing scene sequence if you want to call
Speaker 2: it that, she becomes a superstar and then years later
Speaker 2: she gets to commit her own category and win Best
Speaker 2: Supporting Actress for Fences. You know what I mean. It's like, so,
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't have the superstar that is Viola Davis
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying with without the nomination making room
Speaker 2: for a nomination like that, and that's why it's important.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have like, you know, Octavius Spencer, like as
Speaker 2: this like Marquee name. It's it's important to make room
Speaker 2: the supporting work because it actually opens up a door
Speaker 2: to interesting actors who are doing interesting work in these
Speaker 2: types of roles, who are crucial functionally to these movies.
Speaker 2: You need to run this business. But if I did
Speaker 2: run the business, they'd be like, oh, we can't do
Speaker 2: that because money. I'd be like, Okay, I think this
Speaker 2: is what I would do. If you're in more than
Speaker 2: seventy percent of a movie, a jury looks at it.
Speaker 2: For example, a lot of movies have ensembles that are
Speaker 2: in the whole movie. Think about Who's Afraid of Virginia
Speaker 2: Wolf Right, It's an ensemble of four people. They're in
Speaker 2: the movie the whole time. You would look at the
Speaker 2: role of Honey, A jury would look at it. She's
Speaker 2: in more than seventy percent of the movie, and they
Speaker 2: could decide this is a supporting role because Elizabeth Taylor
Speaker 2: is the lead, and that I think would be fair.
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying if you're in more than seventy
Speaker 2: percent of the movie you must be considered a lead.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if that's the case, let's at least look
Speaker 2: at it so that this can hold some like fairness,
Speaker 2: because there needs to be something in place to achieve fairness,
Speaker 2: because the current system is not fair Yang Legend, take note,
Speaker 2: Hire Matt ninety. I think it's a pretty easy fix
Speaker 2: and a pretty reasonable say, and it doesn't even change things.
Speaker 2: Is afraid of Virgina for example? It's perfect too, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so she's in the movie, but it's it's Richard, right,
Speaker 2: But you can create new stars with Oscar nominations, so
Speaker 2: do that. I am very happy to see Clarence Macklin
Speaker 2: be number four for Best Supporting, but he should win, right,
Speaker 2: That's exact exactly. Slarence Macklin, for in Sing Sing should
Speaker 2: win that award, and because because Kiaran Colkin is there,
Speaker 2: who by the way, it's nothing against him. I think
Speaker 2: he's so talented and he's terrific in the movie as
Speaker 2: a lead. It's it's the system of it all, and
Speaker 2: that Clarence Macklin's performance is a supporting revelation definition of
Speaker 2: what should be highlight by that category. And he's in
Speaker 2: the four spot, you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 2: is the category for the scenes stealing work. How much
Speaker 2: is Denzel in Gladiator too? I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: apparently he tears it up. Yeah, I hear he's having fun, Yeah,
Speaker 2: putting on these rings on the stress and going crazy.
Speaker 2: It was his line I saw Saturday Night. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think it would be better if it were all Muppets.
Speaker 2: You're so right. I don't know why I'm there. Like
Speaker 2: the way that it moves throughout thirty Rock in different
Speaker 2: characters comes in literally uppet, it's the Muppets, and I
Speaker 2: was like, this should have been the moment.
Speaker 3: It's like the moment in thirty Rock when you see
Speaker 3: the world through can size and he sees Liz walking
Speaker 3: around as a muppet.
Speaker 2: Literally, that's the entry shape. Like Belushi's behavior of the
Speaker 2: movie Muppet Assma even Chevy like where he's like like
Speaker 2: a cat and everything. Like, I just think the way
Speaker 2: the characters moved in and out and like they all
Speaker 2: just like popped in their little moments, like this is Muppets,
Speaker 2: and this movie would be more memorable if if they
Speaker 2: just committed to it. And maybe it was the fact
Speaker 2: that Jim Henson is there in the movie mentioning the Muppets,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this should all be Muppets. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 2: like that scene where little Mama, Andrew bars Feldman gets
Speaker 2: too high. I'm like, this is a Muppets, this is
Speaker 2: the Muppet and he's given kind of like a muf
Speaker 2: I love him. He's giving kind of like a Muppet performance.
Speaker 2: I love and no, he's great, fantastic Andrew bars Feldman
Speaker 2: and no hard feelings. Oh he's so good. He's so
Speaker 2: good in that movie greatness movie too nol. Muppets should
Speaker 2: be an Anora Honora is one of the great movies
Speaker 2: of the year. You're gonna love it. I'm so hi,
Speaker 2: she's She's incredible. That's that. I saw myself on Scream
Speaker 2: When I saw her, well, oh yeah, I did like
Speaker 2: a Staten Island stripper. They're like, come on, let's go
Speaker 2: to the ATM. I was like, I I get her.
Speaker 2: She's a hog you guard character, Oh definitely, definitely. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: didn't she do did she did eighties cocaine? Why? Wait? No?
Speaker 2: She played Mike? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: we really went niche with this. No, people people loved it.
Speaker 3: I see Conclnes the brutal ass Nickel Boys is the
Speaker 3: first time I heard.
Speaker 2: It's really good hearing this. Oh, based of the book
Speaker 2: of course, Ellis Taylor tears it up. She's and she's
Speaker 2: she's listed as well. Well, this is an interesting year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I went to the theater last night.
Speaker 3: You need to tell everyone about Gypsy, Audren So when
Speaker 3: you also saw Sunset Boulevard. I saw them at Boulevard, Yes,
Speaker 3: so across the street from Sunset Bulevard. Audra McDonald is
Speaker 3: in Gypsy. And I went to the third preview.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the tone that I took when I
Speaker 2: saw Sweeney Todd in previews and say, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give this all the benefit of the doubt. It was
Speaker 2: the third preview, and I've also heard this director in
Speaker 2: particular works a lot out in previews, because from what
Speaker 2: I saw, a lot needed to be worked out in
Speaker 2: previous and they worked it out with Sweeny Toddamy absolutely,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that that's kind of the
Speaker 2: thing with previews is you see, at least from a distance,
Speaker 2: like what's working, like things are in process. I get it.
Speaker 2: She is spectacular, she Audre McDonald. I happened to have
Speaker 2: like a seat where I was pretty close to her,
Speaker 2: and she kind of comes very forward and gives roses
Speaker 2: turn like right in the first row. It's the highest
Speaker 2: quality acting on Broadway. I would say, yeah it is,
Speaker 2: and it's her roses very interesting. It's almost like pathological.
Speaker 2: It's almost like she's playing Rose's mental illness more than
Speaker 2: we've ever seen because like because a lot of actors
Speaker 2: will love to play to the break. Yes, I feel
Speaker 2: like Bernadette is giving like seductive narcissists. Yes, Patty is
Speaker 2: giving like bombass, bombass bull of a woman. I don't
Speaker 2: take no for an answer. This like almost like it's
Speaker 2: born in her culture to take over. And then the
Speaker 2: despondency when she realizes she's gone too far does it
Speaker 2: just gives me like it's an attitude issue that goes
Speaker 2: out of control. Audra, in her quiet moments, you see
Speaker 2: her like processing and working out disappointments and make her angry,
Speaker 2: and then she leaps into action in a way that
Speaker 2: you know her brain is telling her, you'll die if
Speaker 2: you don't fix this, and it's thrilling to watch. You
Speaker 2: can't have a more special experience than watching her do
Speaker 2: roses turn. From an acting standpoint, hmm. Everyone that's wondering
Speaker 2: about how her voice is gonna fit the music, it
Speaker 2: really just depends how married you are to Patty Lapone
Speaker 2: and Bernadette's like, you know what I mean? And yeah,
Speaker 2: it depends how married you are to like a brassy
Speaker 2: belty Rose. If you're married to that, this is gonna
Speaker 2: feel weird to you because it's it's very audra, it's
Speaker 2: very legit sounding. It is mixed, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess we're splitting in the culture as to what
Speaker 3: we want, which is some people might be married to
Speaker 3: the classic roses and then others might be like, maybe
Speaker 3: it is time for something new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how has you got to get a gimmick? Amazing?
Speaker 2: I love that song. It is a Act two of
Speaker 2: Gypsy really source Yeah, like Act one is good, but
Speaker 2: Act two of Gypsy is incredible. The gimmick ladies or
Speaker 2: it's always like my favorite part of Gypsy. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: besides like the big show stoppers, but you gotta get
Speaker 2: it get I'm just like, this is so fun. It's
Speaker 2: just a three it's three charm songs in one yep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so good. And the costumes are great, like the
Speaker 2: perform the actresses are so good. It's just so crazy
Speaker 2: because across the street and Nicole is so different, so different,
Speaker 2: like doing this like avant garde abstract, like almost like
Speaker 2: multiple personality performances, like a disordered singing down. But now
Speaker 2: I think she made it really fucking tough her. And
Speaker 2: can I say my note my critique for Nicole what
Speaker 2: the moments that are played for comedy pushed pushed, No
Speaker 2: need to do the Vali girl voice. It doesn't need it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're putting too much sauce on it. I think they
Speaker 2: here's the thing, it's like Audra is so it's it's
Speaker 2: crazy because like you cannot deny the performance, the power
Speaker 2: of like Nicole's performance, like she is spellbinding and amazing,
Speaker 2: and her singing is out of control. It's almost like
Speaker 2: you've never heard the songs like this in an amazing
Speaker 2: way on the street. Audre sings the songs from Gypsy
Speaker 2: and Audre McDonald is one of the greatest singers alive.
Speaker 2: But the style of singing is so different from what
Speaker 2: people are accustomed to that you're also hearing those songs
Speaker 2: like Odra to Me and the bar is kind of
Speaker 2: whatever for Nicole. Well, now I think the bar is
Speaker 2: so high for Nicole because everyone's talking about it, and
Speaker 2: I think she made it really difficult for herself saying
Speaker 2: this stupid comment about the hat on Russell Brand's Instagram
Speaker 2: because in terms of Tony voting, No, that's alienating so
Speaker 2: many people. Well, the Tony voting block is only eight
Speaker 2: hundred people, so that's a community of people. So you
Speaker 2: really do need a community to rally around you, and
Speaker 2: I don't know that they rally around her after even
Speaker 2: an explained comment like that when they have other options,
Speaker 2: And the way that the comment was explained also could
Speaker 2: have gone better. In my opinion, here's what I'll say.
Speaker 2: I believe her when she says I'm just a religious person,
Speaker 2: but that's not really an excuse. I mean, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know a lot of it's weird
Speaker 2: to me, but like it's a shame because I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of her performance, and I still do think
Speaker 2: everyone should go see this production, which I think is incredible.
Speaker 3: I want to go see a Manny Gonzales on Tuesdays
Speaker 3: because I hear she is incredible. It's a different take
Speaker 3: with the same production. Obviously she does every Tuesday. She
Speaker 3: does Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: Okay, we should, we should go.
Speaker 3: I would love to see her and I mean just
Speaker 3: I mean the direction of the show I think is phenomenal.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, you did enjoy it. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: It was amazing. That's my thing is it's like as
Speaker 2: it stands right now, like if you're picking between the
Speaker 2: two performances, like the one production is just way more memorable.
Speaker 2: But again, maybe Gypsy will get there. But I'm saying
Speaker 2: death becomes Her next month, and I'm I heard it's
Speaker 2: to die for.
Speaker 3: And we, of course, can we give respect to the
Speaker 3: name Megan Hilty obviously period, but the are yes one
Speaker 3: of our best.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I all I'm hearing is that they tear
Speaker 2: it up and the show is so fun. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love it. No. And also to say nothing of
Speaker 2: Michelle Williams, of of course, like when you see Michelle
Speaker 2: Williams the day after Beyonce on TV. Oh my god, yeah, wow, wow.
Speaker 2: I'll have to do something with Kelly. Absolutely have to
Speaker 2: play Lay It on Me for my parents. The music
Speaker 2: video la Lay It on Me, Death Becomes Her will
Speaker 2: be a gag. I mean, I mean that we've been
Speaker 2: asking for it as a cold but the great cast.
Speaker 2: I love Meghan healthy, Oh my god, love she was
Speaker 2: great on watching It Happens Live. Yeah, she's great. She's
Speaker 2: so fun. Watch Smash again, Watch Smash again. She even
Speaker 2: when the third graders, because the original third graders were
Speaker 2: writing Smash. Those third graders are now they're like they've
Speaker 2: grown up, they have kids. But when they were in
Speaker 2: third grade writing Smash, it didn't matter to Megan. She
Speaker 2: tore up no matter what the storyline was and always
Speaker 2: sang her tits off, of course, and she was dealing
Speaker 2: with Republican leads before anyone else. Kathy mcfuugh mcfuk were
Speaker 2: Jensen Mard.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just I just got to say.
Speaker 3: I got to meet her at the Tony's and it
Speaker 3: was I was gagged. She was my favorite part of Company,
Speaker 3: my favorite part of Company. I had to see company.
Speaker 3: She was fabulastic company. She was making my ass laugh.
Speaker 2: I love. I mean, like everything I've seen her do,
Speaker 2: I do love. I was super excited when I found
Speaker 2: out it was the two of them, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's really fun. They found people that are really gonna
Speaker 2: give it yes, yes, like like that would be so
Speaker 2: easy to like cast Stundy totally, but they found like
Speaker 2: some of the real girls. Here you go. Here's what
Speaker 2: I have. I have housewife. There's a whole ton of
Speaker 2: stuff happening with the house. Of course, let's do quickeats quickets.
Speaker 2: Team to Eat or Team Kyle. I'm gonna go Team
Speaker 2: to Read. Even though she's going through something. She's more
Speaker 2: fun to root for in this moment.
Speaker 3: Because Kyle, I don't know what to feel because she
Speaker 3: is not really she's being vague in the information when
Speaker 3: she was every right to be. I just I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, my few things are on this
Speaker 3: like I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I'm toom to Eat. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: have to be Team to Read because as much as
Speaker 2: I love Kyle, and I as much as I give
Speaker 2: her name when I order at Starbucks, something about dere
Speaker 2: eats I like on the verge, flying down the canyon
Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette. I'm like, this woman has no fucks
Speaker 2: to give, and therefore I believe she's gonna come and
Speaker 2: be honest, that's what you want to see on housewives,
Speaker 2: and you don't.
Speaker 3: It's not fun and not that it's for fun or entertainment,
Speaker 3: even it's a show, but it's like, and she's done
Speaker 3: a deeply personal painful thing, not painful, but.
Speaker 2: Just sensitive thing. It's not fun for someone to be
Speaker 2: cagey about something that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will also say,
Speaker 2: like when they were picking on her hat that she
Speaker 2: wore for this surreal party, I'm like, you guys know
Speaker 2: that she's one of the only ones that's like actually
Speaker 2: kind of doing the surreal assignment. Sure, y'all are dressed
Speaker 2: as woodland creatures, you' all being like goofy? Yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: you're talking about we're about retap. Yeah, her her thing
Speaker 2: that she wore to the surrealism. I thought it worked.
Speaker 2: I thought antlers didn't really make and why were they
Speaker 2: all in them? I don't know.
Speaker 3: We're talking about like Dali surrealism, right, mac greet surreal
Speaker 3: margreet surreal, like wear an apple, put an apple on
Speaker 3: your face, you know, like do that. Yeah, some many
Speaker 3: people were ringing goofy and random.
Speaker 2: It was too goofy for me. No bows, I love
Speaker 2: I'd like bows. I likes the vibe, even though like
Speaker 2: whatever her like career history is is kind of weird
Speaker 2: and checkered. I don't know if it's checkered or not.
Speaker 2: My question is just like why it's like when she
Speaker 2: was like, I worked here and here and here and
Speaker 2: here and here and here, you and I don't know
Speaker 2: any companies. Usually when someone has worked at a lot
Speaker 2: of places, it means they've had to leave a lot
Speaker 2: of places. But I also don't want to take anything
Speaker 2: away from her because she's clearly a very dynamic, compelling,
Speaker 2: ironic person. I'm very I think this is the right vibe.
Speaker 2: And I don't really miss You're Crystal calling Minkow. Oh.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about her. I don't think about
Speaker 2: any of the housewives that aren't on anymore. That's why
Speaker 2: whenever anyone's like, oh, we miss so and so, I'm like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna miss so and so. I'm like, you're not.
Speaker 2: Though the only exception is because maybe it's a full reboot,
Speaker 2: is is Ronnie, because then we'll talk about Ronnie's Roney
Speaker 2: is nothing. It is tough. I was rooting for them,
Speaker 2: we were all daring this whole fucking Aaron Aaron.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, girl, what are you doing to me?
Speaker 3: She's not even the pro she's not even the problem.
Speaker 3: But like the Rebecca Minco the prank quote unquote, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I hated the prank Duck's Ball. Yeah, I hated the prank.
Speaker 2: Aaron didn't even need to do the prank because I
Speaker 2: was like, you're one of the ones actually giving a storyline. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: like so many of them are not, and they can't
Speaker 2: get me to care about Rakau. They can't get to
Speaker 2: care about recD. I dodn't even know the women from
Speaker 2: last season. Really, It's like, why are you suddenly doing raquel.
Speaker 2: It's like I don't know the girls that we have
Speaker 2: on the show already, right, I'm like, sorry, what is it?
Speaker 2: What is uba about? Again? Like what happened to the
Speaker 2: hot sauce? Like I would love to know what happened
Speaker 2: with the hot sauce?
Speaker 3: And I like the hot sauce Jessel I'm rooting for
Speaker 3: still in a way, Puvet makes it very tough. That
Speaker 3: is one of the lamest motherfuckers to ever be on television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he I said that thing of like when straight
Speaker 2: men like negative lives, like the like thing of like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be annoying as a funny thing and
Speaker 2: eat on our therapy zoom. I would turn to my
Speaker 2: husband and say, you better close your mouth and put
Speaker 2: that snack away, right, now you're embarrassing so disrespect. You're
Speaker 2: embarrassing me while the cameras are on. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The reason why you're embarrassing me is because you are
Speaker 2: embarrassing yourself. Yes, and now I'm on this television show
Speaker 2: on therapy and you are not being funny and you
Speaker 2: think you will and it's humiliating. And his thing of
Speaker 2: like constantly minimizing her. I get that she's no saint,
Speaker 2: and like obviously like of course, of course their relationship
Speaker 2: was established as being very like the meanness to each other.
Speaker 2: It is like a fore play that they do. But
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, come on, come on now, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're you're just like a wanna be tech bro. She
Speaker 2: wouldn't want the daughter to be Taylor stuff, but he
Speaker 2: would want his daughter, his son to be like like
Speaker 2: you said it all and I'm like, you Jack op
Speaker 2: to the cyber truck or something like he literally he's like,
Speaker 2: I want a cyber truck. I'm like, this is this
Speaker 2: is our guy, not our guy, but I'm just this
Speaker 2: is the guy it's given cabinet appointment. Okay, so oh see,
Speaker 2: I thought Simpson won. The reason Simpson, you're the dumbest girl.
Speaker 2: Don't don't you ever call me your dumbest girl I met,
Speaker 2: I've ever fucking I ever fucking metal lies told sorry, Alexis, Sorry,
Speaker 2: you're a wonderful mother. I'm sure they're all wonderful mothers.
Speaker 2: Like these people they come on and I just wonder, like,
Speaker 2: what did Alexis think this was going to be? Like,
Speaker 2: what exactly did she think was gonna happen when she
Speaker 2: went fresh off getting together with the star of the
Speaker 2: show's like and like have no like contrition about it?
Speaker 2: Did you expect it to have like a future on
Speaker 2: the show? You're in, You're out defense against the Dark Arts, Katie,
Speaker 2: that was top I wanted to come back though, I
Speaker 2: do I want I want that as well. I think
Speaker 2: there's extrapolation there. I thought one of the lowest parts
Speaker 2: of the reunion was that I think it was Heather
Speaker 2: Debro who I do like brought up that years before
Speaker 2: that legal situation that I was like, this is like
Speaker 2: not relevant and feels pad so petty, And I think
Speaker 2: she she felt bad, how she feel bad? And then
Speaker 2: that's where she went over. I don't know that's part
Speaker 2: of the reason why she went over and then you know,
Speaker 2: and Tamra, I don't. I don't buy it needs to
Speaker 2: be a three times a week therapy for so many reasons.
Speaker 2: Potomac I am so on board with. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Someone stopping today in the street as I was getting
Speaker 3: into an uber she was like, old time your word.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, what's she gonna say? She goes,
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know I love Gizelle.
Speaker 2: That you wouldn't have changed my mind on it, And
Speaker 2: I said, but wait, she's fun again. I like her again.
Speaker 3: I was like, really, I'm gonna sorry, I need to
Speaker 3: start watching Potomac. So this, I never drew down to
Speaker 3: share a partial to share that like we had helped
Speaker 3: her change her mind on Gizelle, because if anyone knows
Speaker 3: the history of our podcast in Gizelle being very anti yes,
Speaker 3: now with the Robin digs out of picture, now that
Speaker 3: I think the producers and then I think Gizel might
Speaker 3: have been a little you know, scared buyer under her ass.
Speaker 2: Something happened. Now she is. I think she's very enjoyable.
Speaker 2: And I never thought I would say those words. I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying Gizelle. I'm in even enjoying Ashley like, I'm actually
Speaker 2: I'm actually enjoying the group as a whole. And I've
Speaker 2: also I think Wendy is so much better when she's
Speaker 2: not filming. She has to anxiously be on the defensive
Speaker 2: all the time. Miss Stacey is I have obsessed. She's
Speaker 2: She's here to stay. I said, I want Stacy in
Speaker 2: a confessional after every scene, even when she's not in.
Speaker 2: I want her reacting to every single thing that happens
Speaker 2: on the show. The boyfriend is, Oh, I love it,
Speaker 2: It's too good.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just can I just say, like, none of
Speaker 3: it is embarrassing, none of it like lowers any sort
Speaker 3: of thing I have.
Speaker 2: For Stacy, Like she is, I am well, I will
Speaker 2: follow her to the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I'm a Stacey's Sarah and are like, that is the
Speaker 3: most beautiful woman Sarah and I are she she she.
Speaker 2: Now takes the crown away from Lisa Barlow A. Lisa
Speaker 2: has not been doing it for me lately. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Transitioning to salt Lake, Yeah, we are. We are sort
Speaker 2: of at an impasse, you and I with Bronwyn. I'm
Speaker 2: very pro Bronwin and I'm not to draw comparison to pubbots,
Speaker 2: like rich people being funny and quirky is like taking
Speaker 2: a plane and going to Vietnam to eat a bond
Speaker 2: me and I don't know if this is fair to
Speaker 2: like to drop parallel, but it's like you dress up
Speaker 2: in an inflabled dinosaur costume to go greeg your husband
Speaker 2: or you have I don't know, like tacky pe days
Speaker 2: and you have dog trds around the house. I'm like,
Speaker 2: something is off. You revealed what it really is about
Speaker 2: Broadway though for you one of the things. That's not
Speaker 2: the main reason.
Speaker 3: But she does trigger me and for lack of a
Speaker 3: better word, to this awful person that I knew growing up, and.
Speaker 2: It's because like this and the way she confronts is
Speaker 2: with this, I don't like that tone of voice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fucking hate it. I will say. For me, my like
Speaker 2: of Bronwyn is because I do think that she's able
Speaker 2: to explain her perspective in a way that I've noticed
Speaker 2: some thing about the Salt Lake women. They often don't
Speaker 2: get it. They can't they can't explain their own point
Speaker 2: of view. They can't see the forest for their trees. Emotionally,
Speaker 2: like at lista ball of most of all. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's funny and it's great. I feel like Bronwin is
Speaker 2: the most grounded, and she's like, no, I know how
Speaker 2: I feel. My moral compass is what it is. You
Speaker 2: might not agree with it, but I'm going to eloquently
Speaker 2: and intelligently dress you down and get you together. No.
Speaker 2: And she's like the first like good, like on the spot,
Speaker 2: like conversational, like high EQ.
Speaker 3: Yes, sure, And then sometimes she lets things slip in
Speaker 3: a way that I'm like, WHOA, Well, she's like, have
Speaker 3: an I bogger loyalty. I sign in first class because
Speaker 3: I because it was my credit card, which.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess the first class of it all.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like when she's when she's backed into
Speaker 2: a corner in a real way, I think she kind
Speaker 2: of it's tough. Yeah, But I do think though, like
Speaker 2: if you take all of your friends on a private
Speaker 2: plane to your home for your anniversary with your husband,
Speaker 2: you do get to say to someone that they're being
Speaker 2: an asshole and it's fucked up when you paid for shit.
Speaker 2: I do think you get to say that. As a
Speaker 2: real housewife of Salt Lake City, I think she's within
Speaker 2: her rights now. Todd scares me though.
Speaker 3: Todd's and I think we're gonna see that marriage really
Speaker 3: kind of the hood of that pop up.
Speaker 2: But that's gerardy Ish as fuss. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 2: not in a legal way, in like a that's set
Speaker 2: up is giving me. I have not made up my
Speaker 2: mind on Bronwyn. I'm just and I see potential for Giselle.
Speaker 2: If I can get it, just can get me to
Speaker 2: like her. Anything's possible. So and Bromwin just seems very,
Speaker 2: very very interesting, and that's what the show thrives on.
Speaker 2: I think the fact that Heather is so pressed about
Speaker 2: Bronwin is because I think Heather Heather doesn't realize the
Speaker 2: audience can tell. Like Heather's trying to make it about
Speaker 2: like I am very protective of this group because we've
Speaker 2: been through a lot. Yes, And it's like, Okay, that
Speaker 2: might be true, but what you're protective of is the
Speaker 2: dynamic of the groups, yes, and your status and Bronwin
Speaker 2: makes the show better. But I don't know if in
Speaker 2: Heather's mind that's true, because I think Bronwyn brings a
Speaker 2: big personality and takes up a lot of space and
Speaker 2: when you're there. That's something I was thinking about like,
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that with like Housewives. I
Speaker 2: was actually watching an interview with Bosima on Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 2: and Kelly was like, so, what's been your experience of
Speaker 2: being on Housewives? And Bozema goes, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: dissimilar to being in the boardroom. Uh huh. She was like,
Speaker 2: you're all sitting there and you're trying to work out
Speaker 2: a problem or a solution, and people are very convinced
Speaker 2: of themselves and you have to be able to broke
Speaker 2: her communications and conflict and resolve and everyone has different
Speaker 2: things that they want. She was like, I can liken
Speaker 2: it to that. And I was thinking about that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, braun Win brings a new
Speaker 2: element to that boardroom, and you don't have a great
Speaker 2: set of minds on Salt Lake City. I think in
Speaker 2: a boardroom sense, I think you have a lot of
Speaker 2: people screaming, very convinced to themselves entertainment. But Ronin is
Speaker 2: just bringing a new element to the boardroom and Heather
Speaker 2: is uncomfortable with that.
Speaker 3: But she should get totally. She should get comfortable. Bron
Speaker 3: Win's here to say, I do kind of bristle a
Speaker 3: bit at like the vernacular who definitely makes the show better.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the vernacular she possesses, the vaca
Speaker 3: she possessed she does not have. But I think Bronwyn,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I agree with you yet that
Speaker 3: she makes the show better.
Speaker 2: Who makes the.
Speaker 3: Show objectively better? Talk about it, angiek, Angie katanaevis we
Speaker 3: this is a standic. This is a stand account for ANGIEK.
Speaker 3: You have shown vulnerability this season. You've also pulled the
Speaker 3: campiest stunts that loop all the way back around to
Speaker 3: them working the scroll is so stupid. You executed it
Speaker 3: so beautifully, and timing and the timing of it was
Speaker 3: so bad that it was good.
Speaker 2: It was brilliant. But I'm just saying, like it was
Speaker 2: so bad that it was good. You know, she when
Speaker 2: she does like can't be housewipe thinks like when she
Speaker 2: shows up and it's so clear she knows she's on
Speaker 2: camera for me with her with almost no one else,
Speaker 2: it's charming. The awareness works. Yes, it's like, well, Meredith,
Speaker 2: I actually was gonna want to talk to you about this. Meredith.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, Angie, wind up, it's so beautiful. Oh Lisa,
Speaker 2: you you are not a good friend to me, and
Speaker 2: I think it's shown Lisa. I'm speaking like, I'm just
Speaker 2: like you better be a housewife, Lauren. Matt's got an
Speaker 2: Andrew k Or. They gave me another shot and I
Speaker 2: go in there with just Angie k If. I go
Speaker 2: back in there years and years and years later for
Speaker 2: my third screens as ad SNL after You're gone, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, this I'm Matt Rogers and today I'll be
Speaker 2: doing Andreie cats nave us immedia and I just do
Speaker 2: her for five minutes of the media. Actually no, I
Speaker 2: say for fifteen. I refused. Lease, yeah, don't leave. You're
Speaker 2: doing it. She's like Edie Cale with it. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: we love you Andree so much. Can we come stay
Speaker 2: at your places? Hotlake? I got the invite. Oh I know,
Speaker 2: but I want to come to No. Can we both
Speaker 2: tell me, Angie there's room in that house. This is
Speaker 2: I don't think the honey.
Speaker 3: This is the segment where we take one minute to
Speaker 3: rail against something in culture, and we are going to
Speaker 3: do just that right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, I have something. I alluded to it earlier
Speaker 2: in the episode, and I just yeah, I'm ready to Okay,
Speaker 2: this is not rogers. Don't think so many time starts. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, that Sebastian Stan doesn't get
Speaker 2: to do an Actor's on actress for the Apprentice for
Speaker 2: Variety because no one would sit with him and talk
Speaker 2: about that movie crazy. He was quoted as saying that
Speaker 2: no actor would agree to sit down with him and
Speaker 2: talk about the Donald Trump biopic that he is in.
Speaker 2: That is so cowardly and stupid. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the publicists. I don't know if it's the actors themselves.
Speaker 2: Just sit down and talk with this man about his
Speaker 2: good work. And he's also in another movie called A
Speaker 2: Different Man, which was getting rave reviews. He apparently gives
Speaker 2: a terrific performance. Like this guy is a great actor.
Speaker 2: He takes himself seriously, Like, because you're what scared of blowback?
Speaker 2: Trump vhoters aren't watching the Variety Actors on Actors. I
Speaker 2: agree with you. I don't think so, honey. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: Sebastian Stan, if I had a movie out there, I
Speaker 2: would sit down with you. You were going hot ones,
Speaker 2: you would do Actors on actors with Sebastian. I would
Speaker 2: do anything. Michael Fisher address you both. I love Sebastian
Speaker 2: Stan and I didn't like seeing him be disrespected because
Speaker 2: he shows up, you know, he looks like he does
Speaker 2: a great job and his stuff. He seems like a
Speaker 2: nice guy. I've we've heard that he's such a sweet,
Speaker 2: nice guy, and I think it was incredibly brave of
Speaker 2: him to do that movie. Yes, and someone should step
Speaker 2: up and not be a loser, and especially now, you
Speaker 2: would get a lot of credit for doing it. Of course,
Speaker 2: so because he called it out, Yeah, and I'm happy
Speaker 2: that he did. Yeah, me too, because because that is
Speaker 2: really important, because are you telling me that we're we're
Speaker 2: just now we're going to take what's happened and move
Speaker 2: forward in fear.
Speaker 3: No, no fucking way that implies the mandate and let
Speaker 3: him host desen l.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if do you think he would
Speaker 2: want to do that.
Speaker 3: I've heard that he wants to. Oh great, and I
Speaker 3: would love for him to do that. He would be fantastic.
Speaker 3: I mean for him and I Tanya. It's like he
Speaker 3: can do a fun voice, a fun accident, he can commit.
Speaker 3: He's my favorite actor. I'm on record on this podcast
Speaker 3: He's my favorite actor. Sebastian I watch you before I audition.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so beautiful and it works because she books
Speaker 2: one really quickly. Yes, okay, so this is Bowen Yang's
Speaker 2: I don't think so funny. On the Friends Giving episode
Speaker 2: of wats cluse, we hope you've all enjoyed and celebrating
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving with us. We hope you had a sanak and
Speaker 2: cocktail or not or not? Ah, this is bonetings. I
Speaker 2: don't think as many as time starts now, I don't
Speaker 2: think so many pejorative on theater kids at this point,
Speaker 2: it's like we get it, like it's fun to make
Speaker 2: fun of them, but also like what's the alternative? These
Speaker 2: people grow up and have no outlet.
Speaker 3: For their creativity, the innate creativity at all human beings have,
Speaker 3: and what they grew up to be a fucking like
Speaker 3: mass shooter, Like shut up, like stop it.
Speaker 2: Don't don't like stop this culture.
Speaker 3: Like, look, you got two theater kids in front of
Speaker 3: your well, I'm one of them, not you, Like I
Speaker 3: think you were late, but I count you do count.
Speaker 2: We booked you buff the I'm a late in life
Speaker 2: theater kid. This is this is the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the alternative is bad okay, right,
Speaker 3: so like not too much on the theater kid, you know,
Speaker 3: put nonsense, like it's not even that Like I am
Speaker 3: annoyed that people are making fun of them.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, can't we do better as a culture.
Speaker 2: It's like the least original thing when people like five
Speaker 2: second one and I'm like, you don't really know me
Speaker 2: that well, I have sex and I play video games
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah that's one minute. He fucks he plays
Speaker 2: video games and he's a theater kid bowing, and I'm
Speaker 2: a dancer period, and he danced down in Wicked. The
Speaker 2: discourse online has gotten so bad that everyone's going to
Speaker 2: Blue Sky now, like this is gonna become garbage too,
Speaker 2: though this is either a social media platform becomes for
Speaker 2: like suburban people who don't really give a fuck about
Speaker 2: It's a funny little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's like it's like Facebook is for moms,
Speaker 3: we love moms, Instagram is for like as am all now,
Speaker 3: like like like social media always no, but it's not
Speaker 3: even for millennials. It just it's always every platform veers
Speaker 3: off into some yeah, crazy new identity that was has
Speaker 3: nothing that had nothing to do with what it originally
Speaker 3: was meant to do. Yeah, like the Facebook being for moms,
Speaker 3: it's like not nothing against moms. It was for cool
Speaker 3: college students. Yeah, and then it became something totally different,
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 2: Just will always fall off a cliff, and like podcasting
Speaker 2: is kind of not that it's a social media platform,
Speaker 2: but podcasting sort it's so funny and I'm like, god,
Speaker 2: like Matt and I are kind of like keeping an
Speaker 2: old school Oh, this is for sure an old school podcast.
Speaker 2: So weird. We gotta we gotta end the podcast. The
Speaker 2: chef is coming. We're having a chef cook us, our
Speaker 2: our our friend. I was gifted a shut a chef,
Speaker 2: so it's a lovely gift, you know, Happy friends giving everyone.
Speaker 2: This is our episode, Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow. I apologize on
Speaker 2: this episode. I'm a little nasal. I have little allergies,
Speaker 2: but we still are going to soldier on and end
Speaker 2: every episode with we love you so much. Holy quite
Speaker 2: an impression. Happy to beyone you want to? I was close.
Speaker 2: I don't miss it. If you are lucky enough to
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Speaker 2: It's the first song Sabina before Last. Culture Racis is
Speaker 2: the production by Will Ferrell's Big Many Players in My
Speaker 2: Heart Radio podcasts. It's created and hosted by Matt Rodgers
Speaker 2: and Bowen Yank Executive produced by Ana Hasnier and Hans Sony,
Speaker 2: produced by Becker Ramos, editing mixed by Doug Bamimimi for board,
Speaker 2: and our music is by Henry Kmerski. Hey everybody, it's
Speaker 2: me Matt Rodgers, letting you know.
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