WEBVTT - Mailbag! - MCU, Star Wars, Comics & Horror Recs

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<v Speaker 1>Warning this podcast he'd spoilers for Star Wars Rebels kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a discussion of lots of horror, sci fi, fantasy,

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<v Speaker 1>book shows, movies, and more. Hello. My name is Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Vitepsion and I'm Eersey Night, and welcome for the final

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<v Speaker 1>time to x ray Vision, the Cricket Media podcast where

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<v Speaker 1>we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture for.

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<v Speaker 2>One last time. In this episode, ride one last Ride

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. Look, it's a giant mail bag where

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<v Speaker 2>we're clearing out the mailbag of all the best questions

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have sent that we haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 2>answer and a few new ones that you sent to

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<v Speaker 2>and in nerd out. This is a great final nerd

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<v Speaker 2>out for this iteration of the pod. Someone who's been

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<v Speaker 2>so important to our pod, to our disco community is

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<v Speaker 2>h the co host of the Escape Hatch podcast formerly

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<v Speaker 2>known as June Pod, and he's gonna be nerding out

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<v Speaker 2>about something really special coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Mailbag. First question from JM what are some of your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite image or other independent comics. Have either of you

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<v Speaker 1>read The Department of Truth by James Tinian four. I

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<v Speaker 1>have read that very good Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Any thoughts my favorite image comics, man, there are so many,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely for me. I mean, obviously we talk a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about the big ones like Saga, you know, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very I have a very big soft spot

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart for The Wicked and the Divine by

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Mcalvey and Karen Gill colors by Matt Wilson. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that is a book that was very much a huge

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<v Speaker 2>part of my comic book experience when I was working

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<v Speaker 2>in the comic shop. It was something when I was

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<v Speaker 2>really getting back into comics after Young Avengers. So I

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<v Speaker 2>always send people that way. I will also just say

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm no surprises to anyone, but I love Spawn.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if you haven't checked out Spawn, just read Spornow.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love Tom MacFarlane, the Todd Father, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's grown into a great kind of

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<v Speaker 2>uncle of comics over the years. There was a great

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<v Speaker 2>video recently on Wired that was like a him answering

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<v Speaker 2>questions about making comics that kind of enamored me to

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<v Speaker 2>look back at Spawn again. So I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>especially those first kind of eleven issues, it's really just

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. And also Ultimate wife Guy comic because he

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<v Speaker 2>basically like he literally was like what would hell be?

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<v Speaker 2>And he would be like hell would be for me

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<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't see my wife again? And I just

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<v Speaker 2>I love the energy. So what about you? What are

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<v Speaker 2>some of your favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Am Well, first, let me speak on the Department of Truth,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a fantastic, so good, prescient and very artistically

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<v Speaker 1>like genre pushing book that to be one honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't I have to read one issue basically a week

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<v Speaker 1>because it melts my brain too much and gives me

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<v Speaker 1>a headache. But I love that book. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a here's a wreck that I got from Zig

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<v Speaker 1>Lately that I love, a power bomb. Oh, it's so good,

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<v Speaker 1>just a one an Eisner Award, just one an Eiser Award,

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<v Speaker 1>seven issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Daniel Warren Johnson just a total powerhouse in the

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<v Speaker 2>comics industry. Just absolutely unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the idea is, you know, it's this dimension

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone's a professional wrestler and they don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>in this world, professional wrestlings fake. It's super fun, just wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>The art is wonderful, funny and fast moving. Loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great stuff. There's so many good image comics.

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<v Speaker 2>So just go go to your comic shop and ask

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<v Speaker 2>them to show you all the image trades. They're very affordable,

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<v Speaker 2>great place to jump on. This was a good question,

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<v Speaker 2>love image comics.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question?

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<v Speaker 2>With so much good stuff out there, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>good soundtrack for this. Sometimes I go through periods of

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<v Speaker 2>time where I find it hard to decide what to

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<v Speaker 2>watch next. Sergio says, I feel like whatever I decide

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, there's something better I could be watching. Since

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<v Speaker 2>I recently went through this, my question is for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever feel the same way? And do you

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<v Speaker 2>have your own ways to get around it?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever get overwhelmed by the amount of great

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<v Speaker 2>stuff out there to choose?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? I deal with it in different ways. So

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<v Speaker 1>with TV, I'm a completionist. If I start, I'll finish

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<v Speaker 1>it even if it sucks and I don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I find it useful to articulate why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the thing and be like, do I have

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<v Speaker 1>they changed? Have they changed my mind? They? Did? They?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they win me over? Or did they not? With books,

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<v Speaker 1>if I am not in like after the first fifty pages,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm just gonna move.

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<v Speaker 2>On to That's something I've learned how to do this

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<v Speaker 2>year with books because I used to always have to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait a minute, I could be reading

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<v Speaker 2>a great book or rereading something.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just so many books. There's literally like five centuries

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<v Speaker 1>of books.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's like so many more books than you could

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<v Speaker 2>ever even combrand to read in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>So that with those, I think the last book that

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<v Speaker 1>I read that I like pushed through to read that

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<v Speaker 1>I hated for the first like one hundred pages was

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<v Speaker 1>The Children of Men, the original, the book version ofren Men,

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<v Speaker 1>which is significantly different than the movie, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>which is my favorite movie maybe ever. But so the

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<v Speaker 1>book is really really different and it's really just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like is revving its engine for the first hundred pages,

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<v Speaker 1>although ends really interestingly and it's, you know, significantly different.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the last time I read a book

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, oh, I hate this. Usually I'm just out.

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<v Speaker 1>I also try to select shows specifically for can I

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<v Speaker 1>finish it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I started watching Hijack on.

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<v Speaker 2>Your exactly just the trashiest, most silliest focus.

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<v Speaker 1>People on a plane who are all stupid, yeah, are

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<v Speaker 1>making the dumb decisions only seven episodes. It's so I

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<v Speaker 1>can absolutely get to the end of that one because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, wait, why did you Why did they

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<v Speaker 1>do this?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the ultimately at the TV show, Ye're like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that, don't do it, broke every decision. Interest makes

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<v Speaker 2>this terrible, But you're like, interests, I love you, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>please make this work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's well known that if you hydiack a plane, you

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<v Speaker 1>can do anything you want. The pilots are not opening

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking door.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even get me started.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not opening it. Do they open the door in

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<v Speaker 1>this show? The craziest fucking reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely deranged television. I approached this with something I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to bring more into my life. When I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>I was definitely like a fomo person, like fear of

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<v Speaker 2>missing out, and that also included TV. I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>watch every prestige thing I wanted to be in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in our job that's part of it too,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's talking about TV or trying to write our

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<v Speaker 2>own TV. But as I get older, I'm racing Joemo

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<v Speaker 2>the joy of missing out, like being happy that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about something or that I stayed home or

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<v Speaker 2>ever instead of going out, so I generally am the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, do I think I can finish something the

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<v Speaker 2>bear I'm gonna watch it. It's like I know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna like it. I know I can finish the episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>English TV trained me on shorter seasons. So like something

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<v Speaker 2>I recently started that I definitely did not need to

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<v Speaker 2>and will take me like three years, was Supernatural because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was like, God, why haven't you watched this? Like please,

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking like watch Supernatural? So I got out on

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<v Speaker 2>DVD and I'm gonna watch it at some point. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I've kind of I just focus on things

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<v Speaker 2>that my friends like that I want to watch. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's something i'm covering, then I'll obviously watch it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the best thing is just try something. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in that stage where you're feeling really overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe go back to something that made you really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about TV and kind of rekindle that feeling and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can kind of start new stuff because it is

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<v Speaker 2>so overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I guess the number one thing we're both

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<v Speaker 1>saying is value your time exactly. Just value your time

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much good stuff out there that just

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<v Speaker 1>allows something to resonate with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, especially because now there are streaming services like

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<v Speaker 2>Criterion shudder. There's every kind of niche streaming service where

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<v Speaker 2>you can really be catered to, so you don't just

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<v Speaker 2>have to watch stuff for the sake of it. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>find something that resonates with you and enjoy your time

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<v Speaker 2>watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex asks when will we see Mephisto for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Thanks, Alex. I appreciate this question as a huge

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reason to blame for the Mephisto scandal

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<v Speaker 2>of the wonder Vision era of a Marvel TV as

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who was a Mephisto truther. You know who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heard rumors that they are going to cast

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<v Speaker 2>Sasha Baron Cohen as Mephisto, and he will be an

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<v Speaker 2>ironheart and he will be like a businessman version of

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<v Speaker 2>Mephisto whoomps among us knows. I do believe Mephisto will

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<v Speaker 2>be in the MCU soon, but I also believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the people behind the MCU understand the weight of introducing

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<v Speaker 2>Mephisto now post one division, so it will probably be

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<v Speaker 2>I would say before phase six, well, definitely before the

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<v Speaker 2>X Men are introduced, but otherwise, I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic four. Yeah, I think it's Fantastic four.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that he's a He's an important kind of

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<v Speaker 2>play thing in that world.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh prediction, I think they retcon. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>retcon because the phases have not come out yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think they uh because of the King issues. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they I think they switch gears and the bad guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the big bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy is Mephesto. Is the easiest retcon because you can

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<v Speaker 2>just say he's been controlling everything the whole time, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's very easy for them to do that. So Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is soon, but we don't know when. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when he does show up, we will have

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<v Speaker 2>something to say about it. Just curious if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have watched any of the newest Star Trek content being

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<v Speaker 2>put on Paramount Plus and can it get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of extray love? Jason, have you watched any?

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<v Speaker 1>I have, and it will get some X ray love

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<v Speaker 1>when next we see you again, So stay tuned watching

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast feeds for when we reappear back in such

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<v Speaker 1>a place. Cool kid Coda asks thoughts on the X

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<v Speaker 1>Men run since twenty nineteen started reading Dawn of X

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<v Speaker 1>and want to know what y'all think of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the best time ever to be an X Men.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so great, Like there hasn't been an era like

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<v Speaker 2>this since, like New X Men, and even at the

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<v Speaker 2>time people didn't really know Morrison and Quietly's New X

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<v Speaker 2>Men was this huge era. I feel like something they

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<v Speaker 2>did really well with House of X and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>EX era and the Hickman X office is they got

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<v Speaker 2>people excited for the event space that it was in,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously now you have all these beautiful collections you

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<v Speaker 2>can read to lead into everything coming up to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Fall of X and the huge events of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hellfi Gala recently. I just think it's so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think this is one of the X Men

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<v Speaker 2>eras which we haven't had enough of in recent years,

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<v Speaker 2>where there's something for everyone. Yeah, you like a comedy comic,

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<v Speaker 2>read Hellians like you want to read something that's serious

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<v Speaker 2>and scary, getting the main Hickman stuff. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy incredible production on your comics in a way you've

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<v Speaker 2>never really seen before in design that's Tom mular designing

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<v Speaker 2>those books like this is just such an interesting, good

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<v Speaker 2>space and I love it and I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens next with this era of the X Men,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do think it's one of the strongest that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a long time. As a lifelong X Men fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just I've always just wanted them to have a place.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Krakola era is the x Men with a

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<v Speaker 1>place in the world that's pretty much in viable now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's really interesting about what's going on now

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<v Speaker 1>is having given them a chance to govern themselves. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the what's the quote from Abraham Lincoln that

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<v Speaker 1>from like eighteen thirty eight or whatever, like, will will

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<v Speaker 1>a European giant step across the ocean and smash us

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<v Speaker 1>at a blow? No, if we're if destruction is to

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<v Speaker 1>be our lot, we will be its author. The x Men.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's too much drama in that group. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard hard to govern themselves when there's that much drama,

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<v Speaker 1>that much history. And I think that's what's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But it's been the best and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>the best time ever literally ever to be an X

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<v Speaker 1>Men fan. There's so many books. The books are great.

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<v Speaker 2>There have so many different kinds of people telling the stories.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a power in the in this world now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not just like on the edge of extinction being

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<v Speaker 1>hounded like to the death, or living in a city

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<v Speaker 1>or an island off the coast of a city somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>just like trapped there. They have a nation, a burgeoning nation.

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<v Speaker 1>They start to colonize space. They're a real power now.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is like what what will they do with

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<v Speaker 1>it and how will they serve? But it's been fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>and adding to the points you made, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>real eye opener in terms of the characters who've been

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to really pop and resonate, like mister There's never

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<v Speaker 1>been a better time to be like, Yeah, mister.

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<v Speaker 2>Sinister is vibeb incredible cake, Yeah, I love him. And

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<v Speaker 2>as asks, this is a great question for you, Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for those who want to consume content responsibly during

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<v Speaker 2>the strike, is there anything we should or shouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>to show solidarity. I have seen mixed reports going around

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<v Speaker 2>about whether or not to boycott or cancel subs to

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<v Speaker 2>con certain streaming services ET cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the WGA and SAG both have not

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<v Speaker 1>said people should boycott. There's nobody's calling for that. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, like, your dollar is your dollar and

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<v Speaker 1>send it where you want, depending on how much value

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're getting back from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and support the Entertainment Community Fund which are always

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<v Speaker 2>linked in the show notes share posts. That's all I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Writers and actors have been saying. So just show your

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<v Speaker 2>solidarity online. And if I'm when that call comes, so

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully it won't. We're hearing you know, there might be

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<v Speaker 2>talks going on that could lead to a good resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>If that call for a boycot comes, then you'll know

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<v Speaker 2>because people will well they'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anders asks what is a book series, comic series, video

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<v Speaker 1>game series, any type of fandom that you have not

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<v Speaker 1>yet personally got into but want to in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie, I really want to learn how to play Dungeons

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<v Speaker 2>and Dragons.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great I'm glad that you said this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my big I want to have a campaign. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to player with a party like that's my big

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I haven't gotten to do. And everyone I

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<v Speaker 2>speak to, everyone I know who does it has the

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<v Speaker 2>most fun. I met an amazing kid in the comic

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<v Speaker 2>shop recently this weekend when I was at Spiras Heroes

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating their anniversary who recently got into it and they

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<v Speaker 2>dress up with their party like, that's my big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot of books of different tabletop games

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<v Speaker 2>just because I like to read them, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>actually played a campaign, so that's my big one.

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<v Speaker 1>I exact same answer, and extending on that I recently purchased.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bad decision because I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of actual work to do and I recently purchased Balder's

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<v Speaker 1>Gate three, which is as far as I know and

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<v Speaker 1>from everything I have read, the most like granularly accurate

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<v Speaker 1>depiction of playing D and D in a video game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I haven't played it yet, I'm I guess this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, if this is what D and D is like,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if I'm doing it wrong. I've taken three

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<v Speaker 1>days now to build my character.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like just sounds exactly. So I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet actually entered the mix, but I hope too soon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I too would love to play D and D.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a D and D game, you're in

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<v Speaker 2>l Yeah, yeah, last night X Ray Vision will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Back and We're back Homie and PEPSI asked, what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of your favorite superpower reveal moments in comics movies?

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<v Speaker 1>Anything like the reveal of the Resurrection team in House

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<v Speaker 1>Powers of X with the team on a suicide machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so mine is like really sorry, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is like the nerdiest answer ever, but I stand by it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it also does connect to a modern thing. During

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Wars the Jonathan Hickman assad Era, the final page

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<v Speaker 2>when you learn the real reason that they did the

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<v Speaker 2>whole event, which was to bring Miles Marales into the

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<v Speaker 2>main six one six universe from the Ultimate Universe. The

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<v Speaker 2>way that they reveal that Miles is in the universe

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<v Speaker 2>is on the page they change from mixed case lettering,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what they're use in the Ultimate Universe, to

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<v Speaker 2>all caps, and that's how you know Mariles is in

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<v Speaker 2>the main universe and you know that now there is

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<v Speaker 2>a new Spider Man. That shit like blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was so clever and so subtle, and

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<v Speaker 2>currently in the Automate Invasion book, also by Jonathan Hickman,

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<v Speaker 2>which I am like absolutely loving. The first issue is

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite issues years of any comic I've

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<v Speaker 2>read recently. That book The letter does the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>where you learn which world you're venturing into with the lettering,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's Brian hitch who I think is at his

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<v Speaker 2>best here drawing and colored by Alex Sinclair. This book

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<v Speaker 2>is just so cool and for me, those little production

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<v Speaker 2>nods where you learn like there is a huge power

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<v Speaker 2>reveal that I won't spoil in the first issue of

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<v Speaker 2>All My Invasion, but you once again learn about it

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<v Speaker 2>just by the fact that they're not using all caps,

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<v Speaker 2>they're using mixed case. That to me is like some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most powerful stuff that gets me, like really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great answer for me. I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the heat of my comic book buying fandom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go with this is kind of a dodge,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's I think it's the qrurect way

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<v Speaker 1>to answer this question. Personally. For me, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>the reveal in Wolverine seventy five nineteen ninety three is

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine number of Wolverine's bone Claus so so Wolverine with

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<v Speaker 1>the metal he had the adamantium still in his body,

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<v Speaker 1>he had taken a taken a swing at Magneto and

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<v Speaker 1>had cut him. Magneto got super mad and was like

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking idiot, Master Magnetism, like you're still doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>You're still trying me. And he's like, I'm watch what

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<v Speaker 1>real power is. And he just like liquefies all the

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<v Speaker 1>adamantium in Wolverine's body and sucks it out severely injuring him.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're thinking, so you're thinking for a period

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<v Speaker 1>of time now and I forget how many issues you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this like, as he recovers and then eventually decides like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can still be a help to the X Men,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, Okay, he doesn't. He doesn't have unbreakable bones anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't have the claus but he's still got

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy healing factor some like he could still surely help.

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<v Speaker 1>And then during a a a training session, his he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes like, you know, instinctively, like he's trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>and to contribute to the team, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden snicked and these crazy, like mangly looking bone

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<v Speaker 1>claws pop out of his hands and he's like an

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<v Speaker 1>immense pain. I have to say, as a kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, freaking mind bull.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely, because I feel like all of us kind

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<v Speaker 2>of also didn't really know, like whether clause something they

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<v Speaker 2>added in the web and next program, like oh, those

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<v Speaker 2>naturally occurring as part of his mutation. But obviously that

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<v Speaker 2>reveal is like the bone claws, he had them all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, they just covered them without him.

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<v Speaker 1>They just covered it or like replace whatever however however

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<v Speaker 1>they did it. But I will also say that what's

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<v Speaker 1>funny to me about that scene is like, so Wolverine

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<v Speaker 1>has just had recently had all the adamanciam removed from

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<v Speaker 1>his body, and doctor turned villain Moierriic Taggert is there,

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<v Speaker 1>like with the rest of the X Men, including Jubilet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, early nineties X Men, just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you and go through this session a bit oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's too he's too injured to do this and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, and then the bones the claws pop out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy that where are Taggart? A doctor, a world

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<v Speaker 1>renowned doctor and scientist. Was never like, hey, you just

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<v Speaker 1>had all the metal pulled out of your body. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I should have said you let me take a look

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<v Speaker 1>to see if anything has happened, and so everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>just surprised by the Bone Club. Anyway, he had.

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<v Speaker 2>The healing ex Markina. Chris asks where does Ahsoka happen

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<v Speaker 2>in the timeline? Meaning the newest TV show. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>Rebels for the first time. Was delighted to see more

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<v Speaker 2>Mofma finally going public with her rebellion. I realized Rebels

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<v Speaker 2>must be after all the same time as Andors. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm confused but excited about Ahsoka. I do actually

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<v Speaker 2>know the answer to this, Okay, So the a brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>actress who's playing Sabine Ran and Natasha lu Bodiso, she

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<v Speaker 2>had said that it will occur and currently to the

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian season three, which I believe the Mandalorian season three

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<v Speaker 2>is eleven a b y, which is basically like seven

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<v Speaker 2>years after Return of the Jedi, So you're basically in

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<v Speaker 2>that space between the old and the new, and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be very interesting to see because also we're now hearing

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<v Speaker 2>these Ahsoka episodes are going to be in that thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minute range, so like how much are they going to

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<v Speaker 2>get in I don't know, but yeah, it will be

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<v Speaker 2>concurrent at least partially to the Mandalorian season three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very exciting. So first no for nascent, first order

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<v Speaker 1>remnants of exampire running around the galaxy where and various

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<v Speaker 1>Since you're just watching Rebels, I must spoil it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. But let's just say various mysteries that are

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<v Speaker 1>presented to you at the end of Rebels. One surmises

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<v Speaker 1>will then beered by this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we have seen in the latest Ahsoka

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<v Speaker 2>trailers in very interesting locations from Rebels, especially near the end,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Slander Man asks this may have been answered in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you all have a definitive favorite superhero movie?

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<v Speaker 1>If so, what separated from the rest? Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a hard question, obviously, I think if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the truest heart of heart answer for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably just Batman Returns, Okay, Like I think it's that

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<v Speaker 2>I love Batman eighty nine. I love all the MCU movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I love like thor Ragnrock. There's so many different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of those stories that I love. But when I think

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<v Speaker 2>about like a movie that truly as a little kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen Batman eighty nine, it's actually like one

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<v Speaker 2>of my earliest memories is watching it when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like two, but Batman Returns was like I was a

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<v Speaker 2>young goth like. I loved it. It has all these characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I love, Michelle Fiffer's obviously iconic, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the one. I go back to a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>I think about a lot like what would a Batman

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<v Speaker 2>Returns comic book look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What would these what would the kind of stories I

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<v Speaker 2>would want to tell in that world? And it has

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<v Speaker 2>such an unbelievable cast. So I think for me, if

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<v Speaker 2>I had to pick, it would be that one. But

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to pick because it's really a spectrum. What

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<v Speaker 2>about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me it would be probably the first

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers movie. That's not it. I don't even think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best MCU movie. But I couldn't believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>had done it, they had done it really well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that every character somehow had this really emotional arc that worked. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know when Banner says I'm always angry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a fucking rush.

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<v Speaker 2>Three sixty shot of them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was awesome, and that was sitting in the

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>theater for that was like a mind blowing experience. I

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 1>would probably be a tie with that and Winter Soldier

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>just because in the winter, so I just love Winter Soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>The Elevator Fight for me is the Topelieree mc moment ever.

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Eric osks he's been reading The Black Tongue

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Thief based on Jason's recommendation and he absolutely loves it, says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure this has come up previously. Any other suggestions

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.959
<v Speaker 2>of similar novels worth my time? And then he has

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<v Speaker 2>a second do you guys? So he's he asked me specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>like what are the best under the radar horror books

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to check out? I do read a lot of horror.

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend. I don't know how under the radar

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 2>a these are, but like I love Riley Sega, Like

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't read any of his books, he made this.

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 2>He wrote this book called Final Girls, which is probably

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites, which is like set in the

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 2>world of Slashers. He's done multiple different books and each

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 2>one is kind of a playing on like a horror trope.

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 2>He did like a Haunted House book, like kind of

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>an inspired by Amateurville, and they all sit in like

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a mystery horror space. I've also would say, if you've

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 2>never read Clive Barker's books of Blood. They're actually really

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>easy to get now, and those are so unreal, Like,

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>you will read those stories and whether you're a reader

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>or a storyteller, you will got Oh my fucking god,

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I've never read anything like this, and it makes you

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>want to tell crazy stories. I mean, I love horror.

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 2>I actually wrote a horror list at IGN as well

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>that we can we can link back to because there's

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>always so many different brilliant books out there. I also

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 2>love anything by Read Jew. She has a new book

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<v Speaker 2>out soon called The Reformatory. I've been reading a lot

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>of dark Academia recently. It's brilliant. Yeah, so check those out. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I read a really great book that

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<v Speaker 2>if you love horror, is worth reading called The Black

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Guy Dies First, and it is by a really brilliant

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 2>woman called doctor Robin Armines Coleman and an author called

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Mark Harris. And it's this really fun academic history of

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 2>horror and like blackness in horror, but it's put together

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>in such an unbelievably readable way, and if you're a

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>horror fan, you will just love it. Like I recommend

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>it to people when they ask me for horror books

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 2>because it makes such a good companion piece to those books. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those are just some of them, but there's there's so

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>many good ones, Jason, is there any more kind of

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>like fantasy books in the Vein of Black Tongue Thief

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>that you love.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll say some horror stuff. This is definitely not

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>under the radar Stephen King, but he.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Does have many books.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My favorite, like when I was a kid that

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing that Stephen King wrote was a collection

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of short stories called Night Shit. I think it is

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>his first collection of short stories and it's a bunch

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>of stories that appeared when he was a freelancer in

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>various men's magazines, including Cavalier, Ubers, Penthouse, you know, like

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>lad mags of the Day, and it is really gritty,

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>scary stuff, and I just remember, you know, it's very

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>rare that I actually get scared. Part of the reason

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>that I like horror movies is like I can watch

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>them in the middle of the night just I enjoy them,

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>but they don't really scare me. I got really scared

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>by this book, Jerusalem's Love and all almost all of

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>these stories have been adapted into stuff. So it opens

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>with Jerusalem's Lot, which is the vampire story that then

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>became a vampire I believe TV mini series starring David

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Soul really scary about this guy who like inherits this

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like mansion that then has creepy sounds and things happening

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>inside of it is probably vampires living in the basement.

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Graveyard Shift, which was I think was also adapted, and

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I Forget Where Night Surf, which is like super trivia.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:16.959
<v Speaker 1>This is like a lot of this stuff is like

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Stephen King's drug phase. I Am The Doorway, which like

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is I think still one of the great like teleportation

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>stories of all the time. Trucks which became Maximum Overdrive.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Strawberry Spring, which to this day I find one of

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the absolute scariest reads ever about. I don't want to

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>spoil it, but it's about a series of serial killings

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that happen in and around a college campus when the

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>fog of a of a you know, kind of like

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>late summer rain or over the university, and it is

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>really mind melting and scary. The Ledge, which is just

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>one of the many stories from this that got adapted

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>for the horror anthology The Cats. I if anybody lawnmore

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Man which became The Running Men starring Arnold Schwarzenegger Quitters Incorporated.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>That's another Cat's Eye one. Children of the Court, which

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>game a long running and it's been very, very campy

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>movie series about a town in which, like you know,

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>all the adults are murdered, just like great, great, great

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>great and really really scary. Check it out. Chris asks,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>who is the chosen one? Luca Anakin, I think they're

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>very I think the prophecies are very clear.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I personally, I'm like a I spent so much

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>time in this world that I'm kind of like a

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.959
<v Speaker 2>prophecy hater at this point. I feel like prophecies can

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>always be misread or re read or reconstrued. I believe

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>that they probably will keep finding a chosen one, I

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>think when to fit their needs. That's kind of the

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>problem with prophecies. But Jason, I believe you have a

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>more distinct belief on this one.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's I think is a chosen one.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that the prophecies were pretty clear, and I

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>think he did bring balance to the force. Now, like

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 1>all prophecies worth their salt, there is a ton of

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>context that is missing from the prophecy that detail how

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly you get to that point. But I think it's Anakin.

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's clearly Anakin.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I like the angle. He definitely did bring balance to Force.

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It was just like what fucking costs? Yes, yeah, okay.

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Another Star Wars question. JG asks over Under on one

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>great Star Wars movie in the next decade. Do you

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>think it's possible?

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Great, that's the subjectiveness of it. This decade, So we

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>have another, let's.

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Call it in the next decade. So we've got ten years, so.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>We do have ten Yeah, well yeah, I think yeah.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think the truth is that there

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>will be some unique, interesting take, whether it's your four

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand years ago at the beginning of the Force,

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>whether it's some slightly lower budget Western inspired Star Wars movie,

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a Pixar Droids movie. I just think there's

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>so much scope, and it feels unlikely at the moment

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>because they have struggled to find the right thing. But

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe that there will be a great Star Wars

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>movie in the next decade, because there tends to be.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a cycle. It will happen.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>One more short story, Mary gateskill wrote a story called

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>The Other Place that appeared in The New Yorker maybe

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>ten or twelve years ago. That is nothing bad happens

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in it, but it is really really scary from the

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>perspective of It's written from the perspective of an adult

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>who has a kid who is displaying the same kind

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of violent fantasies that he had when he was a

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>younger man. And it terrified me, okayly terrified me.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And in that case, I just actually need to say,

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I believe this is under the radar. If you don't

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>randomly read like old horror shit, I would say read

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Shirlie Jackson's The Lottery, also published in The New Yorker.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.479
<v Speaker 2>You can literally read it on the New York website.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>They have that sha ark that will terrify you. It

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>will also make you so unbelievably furious that you have

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>never come up with something so simple, and then take

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>a great joy in reading all the letters that were

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>written about that story when it was first published. Is

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>probably my favorite horror story ever, and I live to

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>create something that is just so unbelievably unsettling.

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca asks GENI. Survivor spoilers here. Spoilers boiler spoiler Wanning,

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't help but think about how similar passing through

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the Abysses two thousand and one Space Odyssey slash Interstellar,

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>any inter dimensional travel in sci fi pop culture. Does

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>anyone think Disney is trying to plant a multiverse seed here?

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could argue, oh, what a person Chris

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Rebels Ahsoka question plugiers. I think the stuff

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that happens at the end of Rebels very very very

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>very clearly seeds the idea of maybe a multiverse in

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. All of which is to say, Rebecca, I

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree with you. And I think that

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 2>looking at like Dag and Jarah and the idea of

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 2>like how long people can survive in this space, I

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>think that there is a multiverse is always a foot

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>especially because, as we know from the history of storytelling,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that is where you get the freedom to tell all

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stories and then bring in what you want

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>in a way. Star Wars is already working with that,

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>with the way that they bring in the expanded universe

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and legends and kind of canonize and decanonize them. So yeah,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I think Rebecca, you are correct. A asks I can

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes be a bit burnt out from surfing the waves

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>of the big ip content ocean, can't. We all would

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>love to hear from you both what you think of

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>some of the best stand alone original story genre films

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>or shows that may have gotten lost in this plethora

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>in the last few years and need more appreciation. I

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>love all these horror questions, same, Jason Jeviny, Immediate things

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>that stand out indie horror movies, shows that might not

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>have gotten the love they deserve.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've been telling you. Here's a movie that I've

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>been talking about to you guys that I haven't mentioned

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>on the pod. George Miller of Mad Max of bib

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Big released a movie Couple Man, I'm Wanna Say You're

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Go and a half a couple of years ago, starring

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>adri Selber. Until the Swinton title one Thousand Years of

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a Longing, I almost say so, I almost like you do.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's fucking great. It's great. Go see it. It's

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>about a woman who unleashes a genie and the relationship

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they have, and it's a lot about it's honestly just

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>like a story about storytelling and how we create, how

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>we turn our lives into a story, how we can

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>turn it into the story that we want to hear

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>and see. It's really wonderful and I loved it a lot.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mine would be I think I have recommended this

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>before on the podcast, but if I think it was

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>because Jeff passed away sadly. But there is a movie

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that I just adore that's up there with my favorite

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 2>horror movies of all time. It's called Blood Quantum. It

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>was written and directed by Jeff Barnaby. It's a twenty

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen like Canadian horror movie and it's basically about a

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:49.439
<v Speaker 2>zombie apocalypse that happens in Canada and then what if.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, what if the indigenous community in the

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Mickmac community were not infected and what if everyone else was?

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's so so good. It's furious, it's angry. It

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 2>has a brilliant cast, including kde Every Jacobs from Reservoir Dogs,

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Michael gray Eyes who's like an absolute legend. But it's

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like so good and it is just like I would

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>love to see it at the movie theater. It was

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>only ever on Shutter, so I never got to. But

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 2>it is just like gory, fast paced, like brilliant shutter

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 2>is really good for that kind of stuff. They also

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>had a show that I was really into that came out.

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's so good and it kicked documentaries.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you're a fannal documentary.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Watch the documentaries about horror on Shutter They're so good.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like they did a show that I

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>also really loved. There was a New Zealand show, an

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 2>other indigenous show called The dead Lands, and it was

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>like it's a little bit more zena ish even though

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not as serious, but it's still kind of gory

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's about a warrior who has to get like

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>sent back into the dead lands and they come back

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 2>from the afterlife to kind of find redemption. And that

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 2>is just so good. Like if you like fantasy and horror,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that's just such a good show. And both of those

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I think are up there for stuff that should have

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 2>gotten a lot more shout outs. And I mean, if

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to watch Prey and then watch Blood Quantum,

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you would be having a really special double

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>bill of really great indigenous genre horror.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Rob Asks Suit Division was a mess on both the

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<v Speaker 1>micro and macro levels. Which megafranchise do you think will

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<v Speaker 1>be the first to decanonize an existing tent pole part

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>of the franchise. Allah when EU Star Wars became Legends. Wow,

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a really big question. I think

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a good question to ask. I also think.

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<v Speaker 1>The Star Wars not count because either do.

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<v Speaker 2>It in a way they're already doing it because think

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<v Speaker 2>of something like Agents of Shield that was emc U canon,

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 2>it was sold as emc U canon. Caang, it's about

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to happen, baby. I just don't think they're gonna do it.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I think we're moved past the time of like somebody

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>from corporate saying we on, this is no longer can

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like they did never happened. That made people. That makes

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>people angry. It makes fans feel like they invested their

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>time in something that isn't worthwhile or doesn't matter. So

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I think we're more in a space where it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be kind of like we talked about this before

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 2>for Dark World, a lot of that felt like it

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't really important until they made it important again. And

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I think rather than decanonizing anything definitively, you're gonna be

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 2>in a space where something like Agents of Shield, they

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 2>had the dark Hold, and they used a different one

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>in the new movies. They had morgana the Faye, but

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>they they gonna She's gonna be a different character, you know.

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Like it's very interesting, but I think they're kind of

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 2>already doing it. They're just not And as as Rob

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 2>greatly points out here, he says, all will studios just say, oh,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 2>it's a different timeline. Yeah, I think that's the same thing.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Along those lines. I do think it is very possible,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>considering the kind of structural issues that the MCU has

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>with with they're kind of original stars on the way

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>out or largely having left already, and the ongoing superhero fatigue.

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>There's kind of beset culture. I do think that there

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is like a non zero chance that the MCU is

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>just like kills everybody, go yeah, just comes and kills

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody after Fantastic Four and they restart the whole thing.

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Also, because if you're smart, in my opinion, the X

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Men movies, the x Men universe that they inevitably lead

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to under Marvel Studios doesn't need to be part of

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the MCU. That's just x Men, you know what I mean.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 2>The MCU can be done. So I agree with you

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that's really real.

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>X Ray Vision will be back and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Ronan the Key asks what's the best fan theory

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>or wish this was true for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this actually might be true, but I'm gonna say

0:38:55.680 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that that Polly betrayed Tony at the end of The

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Sopranos and was the one who ordered Slash engineered the

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>what is clearly a David Various David Chase comments have

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>made it clear that Tony does die at the end

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of The Sopranos, and there had been for many years

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>now has been an active theory that, because of certain

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>conversations that happened, and including one outside of Centril's, that

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Paully is the guy who basically pushed the button to

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>make it happen, and you know, made a deal with

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>New York so that he would then take over the family.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And I have always found it really compelling and I

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>continue to find it compelling, and I hope it's true.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>What about you?

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that mine is. This is like a movie

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>pitch that felt very realistic for a little while, but

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>is inevitably never going to happen. This was a Comic

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Shop favorite conversation when I was still working in the shop,

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and it was the idea that you would do a

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Four movie and you would have Tiker probably as

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the kind of years went on directing and playing mister Fantastic,

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and it would begin in the sixties and be like

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>an out there kind of Tiger style party, and then

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you move them to the present MCU as like a

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>fish out of water tail after they've been in the

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>negative zone. That came up so many times as just

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>something that like friends said or that I would think about,

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and then multiple people started and I think when Matt

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Shackman first got kind of connected to it, that was

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the theory of like what the movie might be about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they'll do that. I think that the

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Four will exist in their own space. But I

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>really would have loved to see that kind of like

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>swinging sixties Fantastic four and then thrown into a fish

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>out of water scenario.

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>That would be really really why.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I still think it's the best way to do it,

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 2>and I wish we hadn't kind of missed the boat

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>for Tiger being the right person on that. But yeah,

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>that was that's mine that I think about a lot Okay,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Jan and Nil nineteen eighty two asks what is the

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>next Barbenheimer and why is it not Saw Patrol?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sow Patrol for those of you who are not

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>online enough, is the idea that much like the Barbenheimer phenomenon,

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Saw X.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe it, Yes, it is the tenth Saw movies, Saw.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>X and the paw Patrol supercre movie will then combine

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to create this you know, cinema going weekend event called

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Saw Patrol. Uh. Honestly, like, in terms of the label.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lab well, I think that's the thing.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 2>It's the titling is so good. I will say, culturally,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>outside of America, this is a lot harder to do

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how many people know the ins

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>and outs of movie rating systems, but our ratings are

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>very very unique. In England, for example, Saw will be

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 2>rated eighteen and no one under eighteen will be able

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to go and see it, So I think that cuts

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>off a little bit of the accessibility of Barbenheimer, where

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people could go and see both. Though

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>actually Oppenheimer was al rated, so maybe I'm wrong. Is

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the crossover as large for a animated kids movie trying

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the coppaganda of the cartoon and

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>turn them into superheroes. And a prequel about Jigsaw getting

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 2>scammed by a cancer treatment unit so he decides to

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>kill them. All sounds like I would watch it, By

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the way, I don't know, but I do. I like.

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like studios trying to recreate this, but I

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 2>do like how much fun people are having putting these

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 2>things together. And Saw Patrol is just it works so

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>well in the name, like you just can't you can't

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 2>hate it. But what will the next one be? We

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 2>will never know, and it will happen and it will

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>be so random and we'll all be in shock. Though,

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>if you go and see por Patrol and Saw X

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>on the same day, please tell us.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, uh, I'm just like picking one at random. It's

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna do it. Here's the movies that I

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think you could possibly do it with as the kind

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>of uh as the more serious version of the movie,

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.879
<v Speaker 1>like the Oppenheimer in this formulation. I think you could

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>do it with Dune Part two. I think you could

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>do it with and It just again requires that other movie.

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you could do it with The Hunger Games,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Yeah, honestly, Hunger Trolls.

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Patrol.

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Is good. The Trolls is good, especially because Trolls is

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>a musical. Yeah. And also the new Hunger Games movie

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 2>is like an insane like retro futuristic steam punk movie,

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>so they're very different.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I like that Napoleon. I've come to you to say

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>it can happen Napoleon. How about this Napoleo. So it's

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Napoleon and Leo starring Adam Sandler.

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, that's the one, because that's fast as fuck.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So the movie and the week would call would be

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>called Napoleo.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Ridley Scott, listen to that one. Get make it

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>happen baby? Okay.

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Bertolt mech asks thoughts on the Health Fire Gala and

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the potential end of the Best X Men status quo,

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 1>since at least Morrison I could argue best, I think

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it is best. I have not read the Health Fire Gala.

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Rosie, I'm just gonna say I agree. I'm not

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>going to do any spoilers and listen out on your

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 2>feeds for when we come back, because the hell Fire

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Gala issue or episode is on it's too long to

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about right now, but you're not wrong, and it's

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 2>definitely going to be a conversation we have in the future.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Sarah asks, why have Marvel movies lost some of their

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>sparkle lately? Who? I think, you know, just this is

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>naturally what happens.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, transitional phase.

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We're in a transitional phase. There are always going to

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>be issues with regards to the you know, the cast leaving,

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think clearly they over invested in the space

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>yes saturation, which honestly is you could criticize them for this.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that every single movie studio that had

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>this rocket ship would have exactly done the same thing.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Where's where is the break even point in the money

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>if more money keeps coming out the more we invest, exactly,

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and shouldn't we just keep investing and see how much

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>money comes out? Like every This is uh, this is

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the incentive that underpins basically our entire system of doing things.

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think this is always going to happen.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's you got to remember endgame. You're talking about

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>like the biggest movie on Earth. It's going to be

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 2>incredibly hard to follow that up, especially when those movies

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>had been barreling along at such an unbelievable speed and

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>rate of success. I think it was a lack of planning.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it is a slight confusion about what made

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 2>people love the movies. Yeah, and I also think it's

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>this transitional phase. How do you follow up the biggest

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 2>movie in the world, as we've seen, it's really really hard.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.919
<v Speaker 2>But that's not to say we haven't had incredible things

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Wonder Vision. I still stand that that is going to

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 2>stand for years as just a truly great television series.

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think, as we've kind of spoken about before,

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the best thing about this phase, which seems kind of

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 2>messed up and weird and in you know, a lot

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>of ebbs and flows, there's going to be a lot

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>of cool stuff to kind of wreck on and pull from.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And also if it leads to other people go in

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and see them movies like Barbie Oppenheimer, Teenager and Ninja Turtles,

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, cool like go see other movies, and the

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 2>MCU will still be around. These comics have been around

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>for almost one hundred years. The movies are still going

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.399
<v Speaker 2>to be here. But yeah, I think it's a lack

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 2>of planning, and I think it's very very hard to

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>follow up the most successful movie of all time.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just very hard. The chase asque what's

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>more important for franchise IP satif satisfying old nerds or

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>generating new nerds? Wow, interesting existential question.

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I believe it is a balance of both. I think,

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>do you have to introduce new audiences? Hence why think

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>about Star Wars, think about superhero movies, think about Ninja titles.

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of what they're doing with those movies is

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.399
<v Speaker 2>selling merchandise to children, and that is the children's entry

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 2>point into the movie. I think that making things accessible.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I love the recall model. I love The Force Awakens,

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I love the New Scream movies. I think you can

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>do something really fun where you have legacy characters but

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 2>introduce new audiences with new characters. I think the reason

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>The Force Awakens was so successful financially is because it

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.399
<v Speaker 2>essentially was a retread of what worked well in Star

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Wars as a jumping off point to then something so

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>different and incredible like The Last Jedi. I think that

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a balance of both. I think there's no harm

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 2>in Easter eggs in fan service. I love those things.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I love seeing a character that. I know, I love

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>getting a nod to the source material, but I think

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing is going to survive without new audiences. So I

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 2>think it's a balance of both.

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you're exactly right, and I think for an

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 1>example of something that got the balance way wrong, you

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 1>can just look at a movie we recently covered Indian

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Drones and Style of Destiny, which made almost no attempt

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to bring in anyway fans, and it's just kind of

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like a movie the for like senors, I guess, and

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>did they like it? You know, it's like not, It's yeah,

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens when you get that balance from mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Another good thank you super producers all for these combinations,

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's another great existential question. My Pneybone good Name asks.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering if your mood or state of mind

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 2>affects your viewing experience when you are watching fandom related content.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Me So like I would say yes, because like, if

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a chill mood and I'm feeling open minded

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>and i just want to watch something fun, I can

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoy something that is maybe objectively not great. But if

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling like kind of bummed out and down watching something.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, we can't watching Secret Invasion. It could

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of bum me out, like I'm not if i

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't in an open minded mood where I'm like so

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 2>many people worked on this, like this is something that

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.720
<v Speaker 2>people spend a lot of time on. When I'm thinking

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.399
<v Speaker 2>like that, I can appreciate. But if I'm feeling kind

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>of down or something and I watch something that doesn't

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 2>necessarily adapt something that I really love, I can definitely

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>be affected by it. I can also be affected by

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 2>watching something and that thing bumming me out if it's

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 2>like depressing, or even if it's really really great but

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 2>still kind of bleak, Like I definitely have to sometimes

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I just have to watch like a cozy mode of mystery.

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 2>If I'm feeling down, I can't be putting on like

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>an anxiety interesting show.

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm the same, and that's for any content. It doesn't

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be even nerdy stuff like I recently finished

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 1>The Bear season two, and that's a show that like,

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm longing out watching episode seven. I cannot do it.

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:42.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just too much, too much screaming, too much, people

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>being toxic. Too many times, I'm like yelling at the screen.

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Just fire this fucking person already, Like.

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh you fucking quit if you don't want to

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fucking quid. And it's so well made that

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it just like creates those feelings in my body that

0:49:58.120 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I then have to be like, Okay, I gotta just

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>like watch below Deck or something like that, Like I

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 1>just gotta throw on you know, vander Pump Rules or

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>something very very light. Yeah. Absolutely my mood. All of

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>which is to say, usually it's not my mood that

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 1>affects how I respond to the thing. It's the thing

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>affecting my mood. Yeah, Mike Asks, congratulations. Rosie and Jason Frall,

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>they're awesome writing lately. They you have a lot of

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>amazing things from cover stories to comics to movies. It's

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing as a fan to get to follow. I would

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>love categorically any XRV writing discussion on really any aspects

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of those processes.

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so for me, I think me and jaysonatchally quite

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 2>similar on this. But like, I love writing stuff, but

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 2>finishing stuff is very hard. So something that I always

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>try and do is just get through a first draft

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>as quickly as possible. That is like my biggest tip,

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.879
<v Speaker 2>especially if it's something shorter, a comic script, a screenplay,

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 2>a pilot. Guys Done is Spooly Love. She is smooching

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 2>super producer Chris. She knows it's the last episode and

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>she's saying goodbye in a romantic way. But yeah, I

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 2>just I try and finish stuff. Doing something I'm trying

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>to do at the moment. I've got a novel that

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to finish by the end of the year.

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I am doing our long writing sprints and just separating

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 2>an hour off and really really trying to finish something.

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Also something I'm doing is just appreciating how much actual

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 2>writing output I have because I do writing challenges. I've

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>done two thousand words of summer, which is really great.

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 2>But the truth is I didn't really realize until I

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 2>started doing them that a lot of people don't really

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 2>write anything in a day. But sometimes even if I'm

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>not writing the thing I want to write, like a

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 2>novel or a screenplay or a pilot or something, I

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 2>will be writing like five thousand words for multiple outlets.

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So also just recognizing that my output is really high

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's just about recentering on my stories. That's what

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to focus on at the moment, so that's me.

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I try and do writing sprints and also just try

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and finish the thing and then go back in at it.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 1>That's my number one thing is finish the thing. There's

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a great I've purchased every single book about writing that

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>there is to purchase, and one of the best ones.

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you my two favorites on writing by Stephen King,

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.439
<v Speaker 1>which just has great, great, great nuts and bolts, how

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>to do it, what you don't need to do kind

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of stuff from a master shortteller. And and Laman Spurred

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>My Bird, which is more of a philosophical take but

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>which has some of the great revelations that have changed

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>my writing life. And the most important one is shitty

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>first drafts. Yeah, your first version of whatever the thing

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you're writing is is going to be bad. Let it

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>be bad and don't question it. So I do the

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>same thing Rosie does. Let's take a TV script, like

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a half hour sitcom script for egasample. I will try

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to write that in one or two days, like as

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>fast as I can vomit it out with placeholder jokes

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like here, character A does a joke and character A

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>character b response to the joke, like some cliche dialogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Let go back and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get it down, because that's the hardest part because

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>there's always that voice that's going to be there that goes,

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>this fucking sucks, this bad, Holy shit, this is so bad.

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>What if people see this? And it's important that you

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 1>have that voice because that's going to be the thing

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.839
<v Speaker 1>that powers you through the editing where you rewrite and

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you make it good. But you'll never get there if

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>all you do is listen to that voice and you

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>just here's a thing that happens, has happened to me.

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And continuing to also continue to try to finish my

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>novel is if I read what I wrote last night,

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.919
<v Speaker 1>then I'll just keep rewriting it. And I'll just keep

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>rewriting it, and next thing you know, for two weeks,

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been working on the same chapter, the same paragraph,

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>two paragraphs in a chapter. Just finish it. It doesn't

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>matter if it fucking sucks. It's it's supposed to be

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>really bad, it's supposed to be really really really shitty.

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Finish it and then go back and then you can

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>make it better and make it better and make it better.

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:16.320
<v Speaker 1>So just like I cannot stress this is enough for

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>your first draft. Whatever you're writing, it's gonna suck. It's

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna suck. Mute the voice that is telling you it sucks,

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and just push through and to the end. The second

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you start feeling yourself reading two sentences before where you

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are or three sentences or a paragraph and going oh shit,

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that's bad, stop and just maybe close the document and

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>come back and you feel like you can just like finish.

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.359
<v Speaker 1>You can push through again and just don't reread until

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you finish. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the other thing I would say, just find

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>friends who want to read your stuff. That will be

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the ones who help you go from bad first draft.

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a great second job. It's amazing third draft. With

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.839
<v Speaker 2>my Pilo and my screenplays, having friends read them over

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 2>go oh this works or this doesn't work or this

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 2>person needs more has been like invaluable. So I would

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 2>definitely say.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>That that's very important. And to add on to that,

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're getting notes from your friends, again super important

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to have those people that you trust

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:15.919
<v Speaker 1>to give you the notes. If you're in a place

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 1>where you're not finished, it's okay to tell them, hey,

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>don't give me a note that will make me go back,

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, just again. It's the hardest thing to do,

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but finish, finish.

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 2>It, and you'll feel so good when you know you

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 2>can finish one thing. It makes finishing everything else so

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 2>much easier.

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just finish it up next to it out.

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 2>In today's not outweare you tell us what you love them, why,

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a theory you're excited to share, or a quick question

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 2>we can answer. And you have sent us so many

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 2>over the last two years. Heh friend of the pod

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and co host of the Escape Patch podcast, which you

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 2>might know is Doom Pod, pitches us on honestly one

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of the best shows of like the last decade, which

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>is Warrior.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Jason and Rosie, it's h for the final nerd out

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 3>of X Ray Vision Volume one. I wanted to point

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.760
<v Speaker 3>you out at the excellent TV show Warrior, currently streaming

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 3>on Max. The show was created by Jonathan Tropper, the

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 3>creator and showrunner of the groundbreaking action drama series Banshee

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.720
<v Speaker 3>that launched Anthony Starr's career, produced by Justin.

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Lynn, and is based on the writings of Bruce Lee.

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 3>A historical martial arts drama set in eighteen seventies San Francisco.

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 3>It follows the story of our hero, Assam, a recent

0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Chinese immigrant who comes to America with nothing to find

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:43.800
<v Speaker 3>his sister, who was previously sent over. Assam is quickly

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 3>sucked into the Tong Wars, with competing Chinese gangs fighting

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 3>for control of the illicit trades in San Francisco. The

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 3>series features incredible martial arts action, all of which is

0:56:55.120 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 3>extremely grounded, beautifully intricate, and always story driven. But the

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 3>show really shines because of the fantastic characters, including the

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 3>heads of the competing Chinese gangs, the unemployed Irish masses

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 3>indignant at a new wave of immigrants being exploited and

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 3>taking their jobs, the mostly Irish cops trying to keep

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 3>the peace, and the business and political forces manipulating everyone

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 3>to keep the money flowing same as it ever was.

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 3>All of this is set to a bangin Riza style soundtrack,

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 3>with each episode ending with a different killer Chinese rap song,

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 3>so you will be seriously entertained while you take it

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 3>all in. However, what makes the show truly unique is

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 3>its representation of Asian and Asian American people. Series leads

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Coogi, Whoon Lee Diane Doane and Olivia Chang are

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 3>never shown as caricatures, stereotypes, or side characters.

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Rather, they are.

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 3>The center of attention and fully flushed out with their

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 3>own agency at the center of the show. I remember

0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 3>an interview with Alan Yang, producer of Louke and Master

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 3>of None.

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Saying that Hollywood never even shows the intimacy of Asian

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 4>characters kissing.

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, this show's a hell of a lot more than that,

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 3>and leads viewers with a lot to think about in

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 3>terms of our legacy of exploitation, though never in a

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 3>preachy or sanctimonious way. If you love great storytelling and

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 3>stunning martial arts, this is the show you've been waiting for.

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 3>The season three finale airs this week, and all three

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 3>seasons are streaming now on Max. Watch the first five

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 3>minutes of episode one and you'll be hooked. On a

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 3>final note on behalf of all the fans of the pod,

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 3>including the Fantastic community and the discord, I wanted to

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 3>say thanks to both of you and the entire production

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 3>team for all the hard work and passion you've brought

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the last two years to make incredible episodes week after week.

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>You've inspired us to not only be passionate about the

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 3>stories we love, but to care about and support the

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>creators and the unique stories they're telling.

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Cannot wait for volume two of the show

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 4>to begin. Peace out.

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Thanks h. If you have theories, passions, or quick questions

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to share, hit us up at x ray

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 2>at crooked dot com. Instructions are in the show notes.

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>That's it for us, Rosie any plugs.

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Just keep an eye on your feeds to hear why

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna hear us next. You can follow me Rosie

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>marks at Instagram and they're boxed and yeah, like, thank

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you for listening.

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Same here. We'll be back soon, hopefully soon. We're not

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>touch would hopefully soon. Secondarily, I co wrote a movie

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>with Shay Serano that's on a platform that's struck, so

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I won't mention it, but if you use the Google Machine,

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you can figure out what it is and you.

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Can watch it if you want to, if you want to.

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Some quick thank yous to some of the people who

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 1>have been really so integral to the creation and running

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<v Speaker 1>of this pod. It couldn't have happened without them. First

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<v Speaker 1>and foremosts are our super producers, Chris Lori and Saul Ruben,

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<v Speaker 1>who have been amazing every week, week in, week out,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the prep ready, helping us with fact check, and

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<v Speaker 1>just basically being kind of like a compass on what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. Vasillis who Without Vacillis, everything would sound like crap.

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<v Speaker 2>You would never be able to hear us, It would

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<v Speaker 2>sound bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Delon, who without whom you would never see us and

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<v Speaker 1>never know what we look like. Just a fantastic person.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Wallashton who came in late but helped me tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>on Takeline and is just like an all around great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nikki Shane and Bradford, without whom many of our omnibuses

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<v Speaker 1>would have been factually wrong, just incorrect, incorrect. Kendrick James,

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<v Speaker 1>who helped us on the management side, Jordan Sarah, Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>Restin who again was like really really influential on Takeline

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<v Speaker 1>and again here on launching x ray Vision. Sandy Gerard

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<v Speaker 1>who just like helped put together so many of the

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<v Speaker 1>really really important pieces away. Akulatee who helped us on

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<v Speaker 1>the social side so that people could get the message out.

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Dunfee, Sam ben Desi on the marketing side, Gabby

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<v Speaker 1>Leverrette and of course, the founders John John and Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>who gave us a shot here at Crooked and let

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<v Speaker 1>us run a show that is crazy. Carlton Gillespie who

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<v Speaker 1>again helped launch the show and it was super super

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<v Speaker 1>important on the takeline side. And Brian Vasquez who sadly

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer with us but wrote the fantastic and

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<v Speaker 1>catchy title song to extra vision and all the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like interstitial little musical pieces. Thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>of those folks. Yeah, could not have done it without it.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you to everyone who listened to the show

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<v Speaker 2>and just sent your super cool questions and theories, who

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<v Speaker 2>joined us in the discord, who left us really nice

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<v Speaker 2>five star reviews, and who just supported the podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>made this like a really incredible community.

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<v Speaker 1>We love. We love bringing stuff that we love talking

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<v Speaker 1>about to people who also love it, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch full episodes of the podcast on YouTube now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also check out a Twitter at xr v port and

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<v Speaker 2>you can join Audist Code. While we will still be

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with there, We're still in the discord. It's

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<v Speaker 2>still going baby, and that's a great place to get

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<v Speaker 2>info on what will happen next.

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<v Speaker 1>Five star ratings, five star reviews, Weed and we Gotta

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<v Speaker 1>Have You Gotta give us this. Here's one from track Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Best pop culture podcast out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, five star reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast, Thank You.

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<v Speaker 1>Extra Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show is

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<v Speaker 1>produced by Chris Lord and Solrubin. Executive produced by.

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<v Speaker 4>Me Jason Temps.

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<v Speaker 1>You and O are editing. A sound design is by

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<v Speaker 1>Chriscillis Fatopoulos. Video production by Delon Villanueva and Rachel Guayeski.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media by Awa Oklati and Caroline Dunfie. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Brian Basquez.

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<v Speaker 2>For our themes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back. If you're looking for more takes on

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<v Speaker 1>the nerd culture you know and love, We're excited to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about the geek Buddies. The geek Buddies John,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and Shannon are writers, critics, actors, and EPs, and

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly friends and as the geek Buddies, they're inviting

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<v Speaker 1>you into their conversation where they discuss their first impressions

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<v Speaker 1>of new shows, movies, give in depth reviews, and generally

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<v Speaker 1>just share their thoughts and everything geek in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of entertainment. And boy do they have thoughts since they've

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<v Speaker 1>each been in the industry for a while. You won't

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<v Speaker 1>just hear the fan experience, though they certainly are fans

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They'll share the goss their opinions from the

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<v Speaker 1>creator side of things, So tune in to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>latest on Marvel in DC, casting news for your favorite franchises,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. You can watch The Geek Buddies

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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. So hang out with your buddies,

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<v Speaker 1>the geek Buddies. It's a great time over there.