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Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottley.

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Speaker 2: Whatta Radio are already app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in oh

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Speaker 2: I've heard lots of discussion in regards to this topic. So,

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton's got a strained calv he wasn't himself, It

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Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred percent. And you know, we're told it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a game time decision tomorrow night in

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Speaker 2: to Game seven and the Thunder try and win their

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Speaker 2: first NBA title. But I've I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 2: people saying a myriad of similar takes in that it's

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Speaker 2: selfish of Halliburton to play if he's not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And I can only tell you that again, is my

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Speaker 2: player perspective and my coaching perspective is one and the same. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So we had a litany of injuries this.

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Speaker 2: Incredibly legitimate. You know, Anthony roy Nation's leading score broke

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Speaker 2: his ankle. Now I didn't tell anybody broke his ankle.

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Speaker 2: I just said he has an ankle injury and that

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Speaker 2: he's working his way towards coming back, but we didn't

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Speaker 2: give anybody a timeline. It's not anybody else's business, but

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Speaker 2: but anything, I was trying to protect him because we

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Speaker 2: didn't know he was getting an extra year, and I

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Speaker 2: didn't want the NBA people to think, well, he's got

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Speaker 2: a broken ankle and they would knock his stock down

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Speaker 2: in any way. But here is again, this is now

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Speaker 2: the coaching perspective and the general basketball perspective of this

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Speaker 2: going to try and play a strangth calv is a

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Speaker 2: pull calf, which means the partially torn calf. We don't

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Speaker 2: know how much it's torn, and yeah, you can always

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Speaker 2: but my guess is that it's, you know, a partially

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Speaker 2: have that type of injury, you're constantly going to be

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Speaker 2: feeling a tugging in your in your calf and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna hurt your performance, But doesn't mean you can't perform

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Speaker 2: or you can't be smart about it again. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how bad it is. But the way in which

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Speaker 2: athletes coaches, especially in basketball, like just tell us how

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Speaker 2: we how we judge you, is like, you're gonna you

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Speaker 2: either do everything you can to try and play, and

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Speaker 2: if you can play, you play. And if the coach

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Speaker 2: determines while you're playing you're just not being effective, then

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Speaker 2: it's something to the coach to take you out, which

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Speaker 2: is what Rick Carlile did. But anyone who thinks it's

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Speaker 2: selfish of him, no, you're judged totally differently. If you

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Speaker 2: opt out and you're like, I just can't do it, you.

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Speaker 3: May be right.

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Speaker 2: You may know your body, but in these your backs

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Speaker 2: are against the wall games. I'm telling you at most

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Speaker 2: people in basketball, probably eighty five ninety percent judge you

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Speaker 2: by this standard. If you can walk, you can run.

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Speaker 2: If you can run, you can try. If you can try,

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Speaker 2: you can play, And if you can play, you play

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Speaker 2: until it appears obvious to everybody you cannot.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 3: Let's Get to the Fox says, and now.

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Speaker 2: Every day at this time and the bonus podcast you

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Speaker 2: play for your previous portion of a Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: or Fox Sports One show, here's Dan Patrick talking about

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark and how we consume our sports.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's amazing what ends up on our phone. Everything does. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be inundated with Caitlin Clark. Correct, even if

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Speaker 4: you don't, you're not, you don't care, you're not concerned,

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Speaker 4: Well, on Sunday with the US Open, one website had

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Speaker 4: one article about the US Open, and I think five

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Speaker 2: The Caitlin Clark thing is pure gold. And as much

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Speaker 6: Once again, if he had enough rings to be considered

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Speaker 7: He had anything, then I would have said, Lebron, why

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Speaker 8: You're the one away who ran away.

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Speaker 7: You the one to put together a super team so

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Speaker 8: You would have wanted to, were afraid not to win.

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Speaker 7: Winning rings because that's what he wanted to win. Such

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Speaker 2: It's really good take from from from rob really gonna

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Speaker 3: But he can't make that argument, so this becomes the argument.

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Speaker 2: That would have been great, But he didn't do that

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Speaker 9: One of the things that I think makes a mayor

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Speaker 9: Erica really special. The Dodgers recently had a national anthem

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Speaker 8: The American version of it.

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Speaker 9: And it was dissent on display, and whether you agree

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Speaker 9: it was organized, it was four hours, a little bit

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's an interesting way to get to it.

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Speaker 2: I again, Descent when it's organized is okay. Descent when

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Speaker 2: it's not okay. So you're allowed to protest, but you're

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Speaker 2: that you not where your protests legal organized protests are. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's not one of them. So yes, descent is part

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Speaker 10: That and the and Colin's point, like what's great about

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Speaker 10: It makes for great content on in radio and TV.

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Speaker 10: But like it's like, I guess the analogy would be this. Okay,

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Speaker 10: has every right to remove that mascot. Disney Land has

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Speaker 10: every right to fire that mascot because in their corporation,

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Speaker 10: in their place, they don't want customers to be uncomfortable.

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Speaker 10: So like there's a false equivalent here. Colin's saying that

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Speaker 10: That's different. The Dodgers have a business they're trying to run.

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Speaker 10: Why would they why would they put something in place

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Speaker 10: a business, a corporation. Now her representation. Today's news is

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Speaker 10: that the agent says, the Dodgers told them we will

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Speaker 10: no longer have any of your clients. That's their right,

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Speaker 10: that's their right. Nobody's going to prison. Nobody was trying

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's again.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what I talked about yesterday, Jason, which

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Speaker 2: is people don't understand what freedom of speech actually is.

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Speaker 2: Like once again, our school system continues to fail us.

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Speaker 3: You know, schools continue.

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Speaker 2: To fail us, even those of us are adults that

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Speaker 2: we don't understand the dynamics of freedom of speeches. Freedom

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Speaker 2: speak out against the tyrannical government. You're allowed to disagree,

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Speaker 2: but time and place that doesn't free you up for ramification.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Fox said.

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Speaker 10: I think I think most Americans that live through this

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Speaker 10: I think that there's like, I think Russell Wilson can

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Speaker 2: Like he could literally say no, this is guys, this

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Speaker 3: He says. Does anybody believe he's not full of shit?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've joked about Memphis, in downtown Memphis being the

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Speaker 8: Why are we doing this because we can?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I don't know why I've discussed so much in our

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