1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: What's up? His way up with Angela Yee and you know, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: I loving my boy Naji is here to talk boxing. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: This was especially when because you were at this fight 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: in Detroit at Little Caesar's Arena. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: The energy was crazy in there. It was a lot 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: of people, a lot of minx, the Aunties was out. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Detroit, don't play franchion, cruise dessert, thank you for joining us. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: It was the main events and against Clarissa Shields in 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: a unanimous decision. She did win. So what was that 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: energy like for you though being in there? 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: Well, listen, Detroit has always had love for me, and 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: it was funny walking out. You know, I was on 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: my little Beyonce thing and I'm prepared, you know, you 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: go a root for the whole team. And they played 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: whooped that trick. So I started working too, because I'm like, 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: whichever trick getting whooped, we just gonna be whooping. You 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: feel me? But it was good. 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, eighteen thousand people bought tickets, seventy percent were women. 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: That's a huge deal for women's boxing and for women's 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: sports period. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, shout out to Clarissa. She 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: she did her thing, you know, sold a lot of tickets. 25 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: But I was very happy that I had a lot 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: of people come from all over, like everywhere I went. 27 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: They stopped me from from Illinois, from Ohio, people in Detroit, 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: East Coast showed up, d MV showed up for me. 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: So I was very happy about that. Did my little part. 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, now you were there, Najia, you were actually commentating. 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I coated the undercard. It was a 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: great atmosphere. I feel like y'all got right into it right, 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: which I. 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Love, by the way, because boxing, when people be dancing 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: around and you gotta wait for some action that happened, 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: you were right. 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: No, Nah, Listen, it was a lot of stuff transpired. Honestly, 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: if it was up to me, I probably wouldn't even 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: if thought, really, yeah, it was a lot of unfortunate 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: things that took place. The day before the wedding, the 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: weigh in where I was injured going into the fight, 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: and if it wasn't for the fans, and if it 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: wasn't for you know, the people that really loved me, 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: just for them, that's the reason why I went, you know, 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: I wanted. 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about what happened the day before, 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: because I know we've seen it. That was a lot 48 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: of press for people to even know the fight was 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: happening too, just more added press. But there was a 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: situation you guys were She said, I guess you head 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: bettered her and then she pushed you, and then the 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: crews got into a fight. 53 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'll talk briefly on it because facts are 54 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: being gathered. But I'm a professional, especially against somebody I've 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: known since they were fifteen years old. I'm a person 56 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: that honors the sport, somebody who's been doing it over 57 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: half of my life. This ain't my first rodeo. I've hit, 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: I've showcased in the UK, So any hostile environment, I'm 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: gonna be professional because once when you do crazy things 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: like that, you get fined. The fight would be off 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to jeopardize that. So, like I said, 62 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: I forgot my head was on because I'm locked in. 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm be small. We here, we made way, 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna fight, and as you can see, I bumped 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: it to her. We locked in and I took my 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: head off out of respect, even though through being a 67 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: be small, I'm like, nah, it's you know my bad whatever. 68 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: I wouldn't hit but her, and I didn't hit for her. 69 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what exactly happened? Because there was 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: the moment right like y y'all got in each other's face, 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: the hat, she pushed you, and then it seemed like 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: another like bro kind of ensued and I know you 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: said you got hurt. What exactly happened from your POV 74 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: when you got injured? 75 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: A lot of stuff. I can't speak on it because 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: you know, I just wanted Everything I do is from 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: logic and I speak from facts. So I don't want 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: to make any assumptions because even though it's a lot 79 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: of assumptions being said about me, being said about my 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: family which are not true, I want to make sure 81 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: and I step. I stepped correctly. But it was just 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: a lot of unprofessionalism. It was a lot of lack 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: and security, and for me, as an independent contractor from 84 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: contractor to do a job, I don't want to do 85 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: it in the hostile work environment. So I can't speak 86 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: on it. The publicity to whatever's in the public chopping screwed, 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: that's what y'all see, but that's not the real picture. 88 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: What type of injury can you say that, did you? 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes. My ankle and my knee and my 90 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: shoulder was injured going into the fight. You see, I 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: had it wrapped up. I was out there looking like 92 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: a flat too, so that I got a pain, it's pleasure. 93 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: It was already my drilling was ho hell too. And 94 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: I had to do it for the fans. I mean, 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: if Beyonce can perform concerts need a knee surgery, I'm 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: gonna walk for my fans, and I'm gonna walk for 97 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: the people, and I'm gonna wear my outfit shout out 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: to Catwalk Boutique. 99 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: Did you ever consider not because you said you know 100 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: there were fans there and you wanted to do it 101 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: for them. Was there a moment when you were like, 102 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good idea. Should I try to 103 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: reschedule this if I have an injury? 104 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, I you know this. I'm in Detroit, I'm on 105 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: her promoter, even though we signed to the same promotional company. 106 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: This this has been one sided from the beginning. I 107 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: had no leverage, I had my hands was tied and 108 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: I still have a family to feed, I still have 109 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: things I gotta do. And yeah, it was times like 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: literally I wouldn't have done it because it's dangerous not 111 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: only going to to the ring, not one hundred percent, 112 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: it's dangerous with the people around because if I'm in 113 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: a control setting and things can happen like what happened, 114 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 3: who knows what could happen at the thing. My blood 115 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: pressure is usually one hundred and nineteen or one hundred 116 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: and twenty three. Before the fight, my blood pressure was 117 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: one fifty six. And I'm a trade athletes. So from 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: that moment that everything happened into the fight and after 119 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: the fight, I was in fight or flight molde and 120 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: those are things you cannot control. It's involuntary things you 121 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: cannot control. 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I think about Devin Handy and Ryan Garcia and all 123 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: the things that went wrong before that fight, and then 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: maybe it shouldn't have happened, right, because you know you 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: think about that too. But so in this instance, is 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: this a situation where maybe you would want a rematch? 127 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I've been waiting ten plus years. 128 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: For it and this is the first rematch. 129 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: And it's like, listen, everybody's like, we don't want to 131 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: see that, But nobody had a problem with seeing Pacia 132 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: Marquez fight and nobody had a problem with see a 133 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: Tyson and holy Field fight. So to this credit me 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: or say I'm not worthy of that. When we had 135 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: the whole little season Arena jumping, had the whole Internet jumping, 136 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: had everybody looking at women's boxing, of course, I mean 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: if I'm not gonna say, give me even playing field, 138 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: because it would never be even playing field because she's 139 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: an investment. People got a lot invested in her. She 140 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: do numbers. But if it was just somewhat something like 141 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: without the brawl and all of that nonsense, it would 142 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: have been a different fight, and I could put that 143 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: on everything. I love. 144 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting because sometimes we don't know in boxing if 145 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: something is for marketing purposes. Because when I saw that 146 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: online right now, did you think that too? 147 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I was in the third row 148 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: when it happened. 149 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: I knew. 150 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's real, like this real. I 151 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: mean definitely helped the social media aspect of it. 152 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's just you know, unfortunately, me and 153 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: the people that were with me and my team were 154 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: casualties to social media. And I'm an entertainer. I don't 155 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: have a problem entertaining anybody, but not to the to 156 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: the extent of my health and my and my safety, 157 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: you know, but we got it done. I'm a gooon. 158 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna step every time. 159 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: I didn't start to get like I guess personal right, 160 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: because I feel like I was. I hosted the first 161 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: press conference in December, and when we did that, everything 162 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: was cool, right, It seemed like everybody. 163 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: Wanted everybody was cool. The third one that was hosted 164 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: in Detroit was cool. She just went on, if you listen, 165 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm here, you see me. My stuff is consistent across 166 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: the board the day before the way in the press conference. 167 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: I watched her since I was thirteen. I've looked up 168 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: to her since I was fifteen. She's my idol. She 169 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: actually called me that everything flowers and everything we good 170 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: stuff went left, and I know that's out of fear. 171 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be honest. This is out of fear 172 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: because you've never seen any great athletes, any other goats. 173 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: And then Muhammad Ali didn't have to do no stuff 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: like that. Leyla ain't have to do nothing to that extent, 175 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: like the people you call great greatness don't involve all 176 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: of that, you know. 177 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: So what was the left moment for you? Though, because 178 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: I feel like I was trying to watch everything on 179 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: social media. I was when did it go left for you? 180 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: Where you was like, all right, this felt like something 181 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: that crossed the line. 182 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: When after the win, I'm cool for boxing even pushing me, 183 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: because unfortunately it's something she said that I knew I 184 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: was getting pushed. Why would I put on fourign hills 185 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: if I know I'm gonna get pushed right, come right? 186 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: But that would have jeopardized the fight. I'm about my bag, 187 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm about my business. I'm about integrity. You could talk 188 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: crap to me. She could have did all that, but 189 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: even her putting her hands on me, I was like, oh, okay, okay, 190 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: as it is, we still got a fight. But when 191 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: that other stuff happened. 192 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, after the fight, people thought that everything was 193 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: good because afterward, you know, you guys embraced each other. 194 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: You said I love you, and so people look at 195 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: that and they're like, okay, why is there an issue 196 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: now you said it right after the fight and felt 197 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: like that we aren't friends. 198 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Well, that was a genuine moment in a ring, okay. 199 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Because you know, and one thing I will say, because 200 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: watching one of the undercard fights with Joe George Junior, 201 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: and we saw him fall off the stool in the corner. 202 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: And one thing they said is everybody wants to make 203 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: it out alive. That's the thing. It's boxing, but nobody 204 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: wants to see anything happen like that. 205 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I you know, I did a 206 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: live to clarify that when I said I love you, 207 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: I do did love you, but it was I love you. 208 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: How could you do that to me? How could you 209 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: hurt me? Because she hugged me, but you never seen 210 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: me hug her back for real till she started pleading, 211 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I did this. I'm sorry. I didn't want 212 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: to hurt your family because she was cellible, she was 213 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: with her corner. I had to pull her over because 214 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: we need to have a moment. But as a professional 215 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: and as a person, that's truly for women's boxing and 216 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: women in sports. It's a time and place for everything. 217 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: I knew it was little girls, little guys, just people 218 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: really inspired by the moment. I couldn't what I look 219 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: like be like yeah, b this, that and the third 220 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: which I wouldn't even call her that. But if I 221 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: start popping off in the ring, I'm gonna look like 222 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: a sore loser. I've been boxing almost twenty years. I 223 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: could take a l I could take a w It's 224 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: nothing I fight, it's my life. But for that, I say, 225 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: you just got to tell the truth. Nobody knew the 226 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: whole conversation. They got the other clips and stuff because 227 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: the media, they'll do what they want to do. But 228 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: when you speaking with your heart, your heart and your feelings, 229 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: then I had to think with my mind. Friends, don't 230 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: do what was done. 231 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I sell you on saying that you had to 232 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: go live because people were talking crazy to you on 233 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: social media and the comments and it bothered you or nothing. 234 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: You were like, hold on, I gotta clear some things up. 235 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Character is everything. I'm gonna stand on my word. 236 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: That's all I have. That's what's got me far in 237 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: this business. And I'm not a phony person. Anybody that's 238 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: worked with me, anybody's been around me, they know I'm 239 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: love And if we got a problem, we talk it out. 240 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: If we gotta swap it out, we're gonna do it. 241 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: But what you see is what you get. I'm not 242 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: phony by a long shot. And she could tell you that. 243 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean she she tweeted, you know I think it 244 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: was yesterday that she has real love for you. 245 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: You know she know because that's all I've given her. 246 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: But do you where do you where do you stand? 247 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: Is that love like reciprocated? Do you feel like you 248 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: know we had a moment we could put it behind. 249 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: I know this girl. I was there teaching this girl 250 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: how to shave her under arms. I was there when 251 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: she first got her first man carry y'all. Like, I 252 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: don't want to get emotional, but that was traumatic as fuck. 253 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: My mother was beaten and robbed in front of our house. 254 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: Then I couldn't get to her and to see some 255 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: things that happened happen. Of course, I'm gonna be fed 256 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: up for a fight. And I'm just like if anybody 257 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: you y'all you, but I just gotta let God sort 258 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: it out because I'm not the one. 259 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Is there an investigation or something happening that we don't 260 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: know about yet or. 261 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: No, I'm just I'm just chilling. I hope you know 262 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: everybody got their money's worth. Our whole women's box and 263 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: keep getting this light. You know, don't don't buy care. 264 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: I learned the hard way. Nobody give an f about 265 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: you because even with facts on the table. Nobody cared, 266 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: and they laughed at my pain or laughed at me 267 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: being traumatized. But it's cool. Let God sort it out. 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: I think that's and a lot of what you bring 269 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: up is too right when it comes to we're watching boxing, 270 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: people don't have the empathy, like we're watching this as 271 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: a sport, right, and we don't know. 272 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm a gladiator. I'm still human. Sorry and cut you off. 273 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 3: But the end of the d this is what I 274 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: signed up for and nobody cares. Nobody cares, and I 275 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: learned that and that's cool with me. And that's what 276 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 3: people want. Is what we do is we do you Yeah. 277 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: In a perfect world, what would you like to see 278 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: happen moving forward? 279 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 3: I would like a neutral playing field. I would love 280 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: to rematch before I'm freaking forty five years old. 281 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: You have time, you know, I got that. 282 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: Look, the needs won't bad, y'all. I just was the 283 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: fight a fight. I couldn't move like I wanted to. Yeah, yeah, 284 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: I'm coming to sneaker. Yeah I should have put the 285 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: air forces on. But I mean, you know, my thing 286 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: is I worked hard in this industry and you, as 287 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: a woman in the male dominated feel. 288 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: No one cares. I understand that, like no one cares. 289 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: And it's like for me to be the butt of 290 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: a joke, for me to be a mockery. I'm like 291 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: me big Marvel to heavy hitting diva with even Terrence Crawford, 292 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: the best of our air comes give me respect and 293 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: he could tell you memories about the things he looked 294 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: up to me about. Because if you go back when 295 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: they was winning, I always been so to come on 296 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: this stage and work this hard to get to this point, 297 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: to be treated this way, that's crazy to me. But 298 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: it ain't my problem. 299 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: Do you have another fight lined up? 300 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm being honest, I don't because. 301 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: Last year you fought once, right and this year she 302 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: said you wanted to have two fights. Yeah? 303 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm still let's let's let's bring it back 304 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: to a positive note, do it. I'm still to unified 305 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: super middleweight champions, big Mama keeper belt, all right, So 306 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: it's still work out there for me, and it's still opportunity. 307 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: She want to keep pushing it. Three times you undisputed. 308 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: She could come down fight shit days to get them 309 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: belts and come see me at super middleweight. 310 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: But who do you want right now, I feel like 311 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: there's a couple of girls that you know could be 312 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: in the mix. Is this somebody that you're like, all right, 313 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: this this is what I'm looking at right now? 314 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: Is this PG? Thirteen? 315 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: This is X Yeah, so you say whatever you want. 316 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: So for ten years I got my thing hard for her, 317 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: and I feel like I finally got the hit and 318 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: it won't work. Shit Like, I feel like it won't 319 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: even work. It was trash right, So I don't know 320 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: who's really out there. Of course I would love to 321 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: get a Savannah Marshall or you know, get that look 322 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: back from the UK shdaja, She's I don't know, nobody 323 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,479 Speaker 3: want to fight me on an even or semi even playing. 324 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel like with Savannah Marshall that wasn't on 325 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: an even playing field. 326 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: No, I was in the UK. I was in the UK, 327 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: and it was. 328 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Wondering when you hear you know, like, how much does 329 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: that affect you when you can hear the audience, because 330 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can count. 331 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: I tell you one thing. That's why I'm the ambassador. 332 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: That's why I'm Big Mama, because I can go to 333 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: any any hood and be good just like I went 334 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: to the Detroit. They was trying to boo. They bowed 335 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: a little bit, but at the end of everybody was cheering. 336 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: So maybe we need a fight in like Virginia or Maryland. 337 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: To New York. Madison Square Garden a big part. I've 338 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: made history there. It's whatever. Like right now, I'm just 339 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: going I got a lot of other things going on. 340 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: To the fashion Yeah, you know what's that? 341 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: Man? I missed New York Fashion Week to be out 342 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: Detroit messing with Claressa Like come on, but you know 343 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: I have a lot of material to work on to 344 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: release now, especially what happened. I'm a real person who 345 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: expresses themselves through their craft. So people already calling me, 346 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: you want to do New York Fashion Week it September 347 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: and they want to do showcases with me. But honestly, 348 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: with this situation, I'm just trying to sit down, breathe 349 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: because I know through all bad, all storms, the sun 350 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: is gonna shine. Have the opportunity to talk to you 351 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: guys on this platform. 352 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Is they said? I said absolutely, And I said, I 353 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: know you want to be here all the time, Detroit. 354 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Get it back into Yeah, would you work yourself out 355 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: to a song. 356 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Honestly, when me and her for in our pro debut, 357 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: I walked out to my first, my only I walked 358 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: out to my own song. I created my own uniform. 359 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: So everything is happening now. I've been doing it. 360 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I've been a blueprint blueprint. 361 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: I dressed her. I dressed her about four or five 362 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: times in box. I made her uniforms. 363 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: See, people don't even. 364 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: Know I made her the history. 365 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: You know. All right, let's get a little person on 366 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: now for you with boxing. So you actually met your 367 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: husband because he was your trainer. No, so he was 368 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: spiring partner. Okay. 369 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: He used to give me the business, like you know, 370 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: we're front in the city of Baltimore. So he used 371 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: to give me the blues. And I ain't know. I 372 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: didn't know he liked me till he told me he 373 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: was spying bust my little lips. And I'm sitting on 374 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: the ash like do I want to do this? And 375 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: he came and kissed me on my forehead and I 376 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: was like, this is weird. I can't do that, nah, 377 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: but him like I want to. I know. It's a 378 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: lot of things said about Glindas Earn Junior and him 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: as a man and not as a boxer. He's one 380 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: of the hardest working men I ever seen in a box 381 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: and he's dedicated to his sport. You open his head, 382 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: he got Hagler Hopkins, Ali Sugar, Ray Robinson, that's him. 383 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: He loves the sport. But my love for him became 384 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: deep because he was my friend in hard toms. The 385 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: first time me and Clarissa Shills met at the Olympic Trials, 386 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: he was there when, just like this, everybody turned on me. 387 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: He said, don't give up on yourself. He was the 388 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: only one platonically. And then when my mother started experiencing 389 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: her experiencing her health elements, he can't sit for me. 390 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: He checked on her and became best friends for her. 391 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: So I'm over in China fighting for Team USA. He's 392 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: giving me a piece of mind by watching out for 393 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: my mom and just that love he had for her 394 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: and the respect he had for me. And then he 395 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: asked me to be his wife in front of his 396 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: eighty plus your old grandmother who's still here shout out 397 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: Granny Annie and my mom in her hospital room. I'm like, 398 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: what me, you know, because I'm a strong ass black woman. 399 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: I don't need no man. But he was he was 400 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: strong enough to tame me and he lets me flourish. 401 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: He doesn't try to minimize me. He don't try to 402 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: change me, and that's my best friend. So those things 403 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: were hurtful. Take the brawl away. But for her somebody 404 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: she admired too because she she liked Glynn. She want 405 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: to get a man like Glen. When you see them 406 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: hitting the past and stuff, that's me and him we've 407 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: been doing. I could give you takes from twenty eleven. 408 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: Pat be hitting the past now. 409 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Papy, we've been hitting her head when we beat 410 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: her at twenty fourteen, he was hitting the past and 411 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: walking me out. Go look at that fight. But you know, 412 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: I you know, y'all know you can't play on somebody 413 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: you love. And I'll go to war for him, And like, 414 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: you can't plan on his character because anybody could tell 415 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: you to have Sha cour Stevenson trying to talk about 416 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: the bral. You know she court gonna say what you 417 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: got to say, and that's Clorisa right hand. But he 418 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: was like, nah, I can't because I know everybody involved 419 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: because it's respect there. So I just want to say, 420 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: y'all could think what y'all want glendasern is a great 421 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: man and a great person. 422 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm looking has Claricia reached out to you after 423 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: the fight after all of this, have y'all had a conversation? 424 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: Crazy? This pitch is really crazy cause she took a 425 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: five to ten second clip that I put somebody took 426 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: from my life talking about me introducing myself to new 427 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: followers and new fans, like what I'm supposed to. They 428 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 3: don't know me like that, so I'm telling you what 429 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: I do. I said, a lot of stuff you like 430 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: about her, whether it's the fashion she does, rapping I've 431 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: been I'm a real musician, I'm a real FASHIONI stuff 432 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: I do those That's what I do. She went and said, 433 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: I said, I'm hating and I'm being negative. So I 434 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: just told a cut to BS. She's like, you cut it. 435 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: So she wants to probably talk to me, but I'm 436 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: not gonna gauge. 437 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we gotta patch that up. Man, y'all 438 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: too cool, Like it's so much history there, you know 439 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: what I'm saying for this to kind. 440 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: Of get in the way, And I also think about 441 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: what you both have gone through in the past, like 442 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: what she's gone through, what you've gone through. 443 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: It's not an easy My story too heavy, mind you. 444 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a mature woman. I'm not old, but I'm 445 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: a woman who really lived life. I trained, I was 446 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: on team, you'll say, before money was involved in all 447 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: the perks. I worked three jobs. I took care of 448 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: my mother and pursue of college degree with no help. 449 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: So we can't me and her can't put on the 450 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: same hill. We different. 451 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Mmm, well, I you know I think that this fight, 452 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: albeit like I know that this is a painful experience, 453 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: just because it didn't happen the way you would have 454 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: liked it to. It showed the power though of women's boxing, 455 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping this is something you'll be able to 456 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: use to your advantage when it comes to negotiating the 457 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: next fight. 458 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, you know what. I'm so overwhelmed front 459 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: of responses because you know that it. 460 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Was an active fight. I will say this much. I mean, listen, 461 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: they had Clarissa win every single round, but it was 462 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: an active fight, and I was like, if these rounds 463 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: would have been three minutes instead of two. 464 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody never put you down? 465 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: Look, she said she was gonna knock me out. She 466 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: did mix me up. I'm like, oh shit, all right, 467 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: well this is this it right here? You know what 468 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: I'm saying. She couldn't knock me out. I was like, 469 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: I fit, you know what I'm saying. But I'm overwhelm 470 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: with all the love and the responses I've got. Of course, 471 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: she got trolls, but I could tell you eighty percent 472 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: of the messages and the comments I'm getting is just 473 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: showing you know what I'm saying. So I'm still holding 474 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: on to that breakout moment where I can show, like 475 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: why I am who I am, Why a person like 476 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: Clarissa idolize or look up to me? Why these young 477 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: girls still listen when I speak. I hope I can 478 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: still get that moment, you know what I'm saying now. 479 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: Clarissa's always professed that she's the right greatest woman of 480 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: all time. If anybody can speak to that, or you 481 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: know you can you for her multiple times and amateurs 482 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: and the pros. Do you feel like she's the greatest 483 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: woman ever? 484 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: I feel like she gets the greatest opportunities. I feel 485 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: like she has a great work ethic. I feel like 486 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: with her on paper, it looks beautiful, but I can't 487 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: I can only speak for where I'm from because, just 488 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: like y'all see how this hold the bakra. Whatever how 489 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: things went with this, it was very biased from posting 490 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: posted with my picture in my face in it, but 491 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: not tagging my name, not mentioning me when I'm an active, 492 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: current world champion as well. It's not one sided. I've 493 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: been dealing with this since amateur, since she stepped on 494 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: the scene. They've always tried to minimize, minimize me and 495 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: put me down. But Whitney Houston said, the best people 496 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: need somebody to look up to, and she's the one. 497 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: I told her, she's the future. I told her this 498 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: last fight, you do what you deal with you're supposed 499 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: to do, carry it, carry it. 500 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: This year, theigg's paid eight Hell no, no. 501 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: No, no, I've seen eighteen thousand in. 502 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: There, eight people and people in the arena. 503 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: Why you think I'm real mad? That ain't even but 504 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: the brawl had me mad. But they ain't pay me 505 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: enough for this. They ain't pay me enough of this. 506 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: How much you got, I don't talk about money. It 507 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: won't enough. It won't enough. And that was not my 508 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: biggest payday. So I'm come from humble beginning So anything 509 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: I get, I'm grateful because I work hard for it. 510 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: I know it's other women in boxer who may not 511 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: have made that, but from what I've made, what I've 512 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: been making, that wasn't it wasn't worth all of that, 513 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it. 514 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Who else do you like? What other women in boxes? 515 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Would you say? I like watching this person. 516 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: I said that I'm like the the new age pioneer. 517 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: So I'm a young o GI. I like a lot 518 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: of the new girls. You got the Caroline du Bois, 519 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: you got the Alicia Baumgardners, you got the Michaela's, you 520 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: got the Katis. Even a young lady on a car, 521 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: Jazmine at Fort, I sponsor her on the low. I 522 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: didn't ask for no, like you know what I'm saying, 523 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: Like you got my baby girl over in Ukraine, Kira Kiarra, 524 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, I'm connected to I'm 525 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: like mother for real, Okay. So I'm gonna support all 526 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: the young ladies, the old ladies, the young guys. 527 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: You know what did you think about the whole Leila? 528 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: I leave Clarensa Shields back and forth. 529 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: It's unfortunate because she proved the right Clarissa kind of 530 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: proved the right, you know. And I'm cool with Layla too, 531 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: and I would never like being as though I know 532 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: what I went through in the Amateurs, I can only 533 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: imagine what she went through in the pros. But how 534 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 3: she flipped it from dancing with the stars having her 535 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 3: own personal brand, and that's something you look up to 536 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: the respect like, Okay, hold on, what you mean? 537 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: Proved the right? Though when you say that, what you think. 538 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: I mean you've seen the whole readdown for someone. It's 539 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, just patterns. Like people that do try to help, 540 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: they end up on the bed and the short end 541 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: of the stick. You know what I'm saying, It's a pattern. 542 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like and out of all people, I stay neutral. 543 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, h even as you see, I could have 544 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 3: went real low, real fast, real quick talking about her relationship. 545 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: That was another thing I had a problem with when 546 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: she started talking about Glenn. I ben knew about their 547 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: situation right and even with the build up to the fight, 548 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: I never used that as a jab at her because 549 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: it's not my place. I said, if you happy, be happy, 550 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: watch out for yourself. When she pulled me and another 551 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: person in a private room almost two plus years ago 552 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: and told me what was going on. I'm just saying, oh, okay, 553 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: you good, all right, long as you good, I'm good. 554 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: I can't speak on it. But you attack my family. 555 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: You come at a real solid thing. Fourteen years. Me 556 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: and this man have been together the same time I 557 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: met you, and you do that? 558 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: What is he saying about all this? Who? 559 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: Old man? Yeah, my husband. You don't say nothing, gle 560 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: I'm saying nothing. 561 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Just chill. 562 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: He just chill. 563 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: Now. 564 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: They said Glenn got a short temper. That's what they're 565 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: saying on the line. Is that true? 566 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: No, he is an old man. He is literally a 567 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: young man, but he got the soul of an eighty 568 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: five year old person. And he's a man of realness. 569 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: He's a real yeah, and he gonna stand on business. 570 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: But people know everybody, No, don't start nothing, won't be nothing. 571 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: But he ain't a person to start stuff. He's the 572 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: one that's gonna protect and he's the one gonna defend. 573 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: So Nah, he ain't got a short temper, but he 574 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: ain't got time for the bullshit. 575 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: Are we gonna get a Franshine life story? 576 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: Man? My movie gonna be crazy. You think what was 577 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: her movie Firing the Pit? Because she from hell. She 578 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: a demon, that's what she is. Nah, I could speak 579 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: like that. 580 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, because y'all know each other. 581 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pray, y'all. I really gotta pray and let 582 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: God sort it out because I don't care. 583 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: I hate let him use you. 584 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: I know that's right. Listen. I can't wait till y'all. 585 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: And I know at some point you guys are gonna 586 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: have a conversation. Yeah, I know it. It will happen. 587 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: Nah, I'm good, I'm good. She's great. She got I 588 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: told her, I said, you got what you wanted. You 589 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: got what you want at the expensive something that you had. 590 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It takes. It's just balance 591 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: you sometimes you got to let go to go to 592 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: that level. And she on that level and she's going, look, 593 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: you got a little Clarissa Doll over there. Yeah you 594 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: know se She she looking at me and stuff. She's 595 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: like yeah, I like, yeah, I hear you. But I mean, 596 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: every everybody's journey is different, and that's her journey, and 597 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: I'm just staying on mine and we just it is 598 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: what it is. Let the universe do his thing. 599 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: All right, well listen and keep us updated on what 600 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: you got going on, because for the next fight, I 601 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: want to make sure you come through. It's gonna be 602 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: at the garden, is what we're looking at, manifested, manest 603 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: what you said? 604 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: Barclays over there, you know what I'm saying. And I 605 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 3: could walk there too, sneakers. Yeah, and don't you get 606 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: don't you have your property out Detroit? 607 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but she's from Flint, Okay, so Flint, Michigan, So 608 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: it's not a long drive from Detroit. But Detroit loves her. 609 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: But yes, I love going to Detroit and I'm there. 610 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: I love that, like I love watching strong women like 611 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: yourself and make moves like I get inspired by things 612 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: like that. 613 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: So, and where you're at right now, Maryland is a 614 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: great place to invest too. But I love the and 615 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: seeing you as an entrepreneur outside of boxing. I think 616 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: that's important as well. 617 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, can I shout out my sponsors Grand 618 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: Aesthetics was a major day, were on my chest. They 619 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: really pushed me as a husband and wife, a small 620 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: black owned business, female owned business. Fire Gods of course, 621 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: undisputed who supports all the boxing and you know, gave 622 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: us a boxing game when it wasn't one. And you 623 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: know my manager, Peter Kahan, he's the one who makes 624 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: a lot of things happen for me. And I just 625 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: shout out, you know, Detroit, DMV, everybody who had a 626 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: hand of helping me. And I'm so grateful and thank 627 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: you guys. 628 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you for joining us. We'll see 629 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: you again, Yeah for sure. Okay, it's way up.