1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can'tf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Doug McIntyre pinchitting for John Cobbolt. I will be here 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: till four o'clock when Timmy comes along. Tons of stuff 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: to talk about today. Later on this hour, we're going 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: to talk with Quentin Schultz, who's written a book about 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: the beloved Christmas classic, A Christmas Story. But there's breaking 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: news all over the place. Meanwhile, welcome aboard everybody. Deborah, 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: have you seen the Christmas tree that's in here by 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: the way in this studio. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: I guess I have. Yeah. Where did they get this? 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 4: Is? 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: Did somebody get this at Rue Paul's yard sale? 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 5: Y know, you don't like the pin. 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: It's not that I don't like it. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, yeah, it's unique. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: It is it's uh, let's put it this way. Eliza 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Minelli wouldn't have it. 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 5: I especially like the big ice cream cones that are 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 5: on there. 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: We've got tons of stuff to talk about, as you know, 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: the whole country has been fascinated by the intrigued and 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: horrified and celebrating. It's a mix of emotions over the 24 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and this morning, 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: a suspect, a person of interest has been picked up 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: in association with that case. And to give us the 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: very latest on this as ABC News cars wanted Dave Packer. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Dave, thanks for being with us. 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 6: Oh you bet. Yeah. After you know, all of this 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 6: police work and searching through Central Park and the bus 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 6: that apparently he got on maybe forty five minutes after 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 6: the shooting and them losing track of him, we were saying, 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 6: probably yesterday they may never get this guy. Are they 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 6: going to find him? And sure enough he turns up 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 6: in Altoona, Pennsylvania, which is I guess between Harrisburg and Pittsburgh. 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 6: It's way out there. He was on a Greyhound bus, 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 6: this gentleman, and he Luigi Mangioni, twenty six years old. 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 6: He gets off, there's a McDonald's. He's sitting there having 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 6: a bite, and an employee in the restaurant recognizes his 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 6: face from all of this coverage from the police photos, 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 6: and sure enough turns out to be somebody who they're 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: saying is a person of interest. NYPD just arrived in Altoon. 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 6: I take him probably about two and a half three 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 6: hours to get out there. They're there now, they're questioning him. 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 6: He's being held on gun charges. But it's fascinating. This 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 6: individual an Ivy League graduate. He has an undergrad and 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 6: master's degree in engineering from University of Pennsylvania. He was 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 6: a valedictorian in his high school. He was involved in 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 6: Greek life. He posted on social media. It's somebody who 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 6: apparently had a lot of friends, and it's kind of 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: interesting that nobody identified him until now. 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's very difficult to get away in the modern 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: age where his digital cameras essentially everywhere, and there were 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: certainly plenty of photographs that the police had made no 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: secret of. You know, they weren't keeping it close to 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: their vest. They wanted the public to see him. And 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: apparently that ultimately led to him being id'd in Pennsylvania 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: because the pictures have been so widely disseminated. Now we're 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: getting obviously cryptic information leaked to us, including reports that 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: he had in his in his possession when he was 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: taken in a manifesto, a handwritten manifesto. 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Can you tell us anything about that? 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, he had, And in this manifesto he was this 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: document three page handwritten document, which the police are saying 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 6: speaks to his motivation and mindset. It does seem that 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 6: he had some ill will toward corporate America, police said, 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 6: and in some of it we're seeing also he's talking 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 6: about the healthcare industry. We know that he had grandparents 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: who passed away over the last ten years, and we're 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 6: probably going to look into the circumstances of you know, 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 6: what was were they denied care? You know, these are 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 6: all going to the motivation. 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: Also, there were there's. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 6: Some reports that there were peace is of the Unit 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 6: Bombers manifesto quoted by him, all of this in his 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 6: own handwriting, and detective is now trying to work backwards 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 6: with this from Altuona to figure this all out. 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: We're talking about ABC News correspondent Dave Packer. Dave the 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: Unibomber quotes are fascinating because Ted Kaczinski, aka the Unibomber, 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: was a highly educated person, much like the suspect in 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: this case, Luigi Mangioni. 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: He was. 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: Also an anti technologist, which is why he ended up 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: living in that shack. 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: In the rural outback. 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: And this young man apparently has a long both academic 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: and even professional interest in high tech, so he somehow 88 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: he ended up transposing that onto admiration or at least 89 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: inspiration from an anti tech person. 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot going on. He was involved I 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 6: think some you know, they were reports that he was 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 6: involved in a in the free healthy food movement and 93 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 6: different environmental causes, different left wing causes. But it's it's, 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 6: you know, not clear exactly this is what prompted him, 95 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 6: this is what what sent him over the edge and 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 6: sent him to New York to go shoot Brian Thompson. 97 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: We don't we don't have that, but we do have 98 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: a general sense, and again we don't know what the 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 6: police know, but from what we're hearing, we get a 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 6: general sense that he was disgruntled generally with corporate America 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 6: and specifically with the healthcare system and the healthcare industry, 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 6: healthcare insurance industry specifically. 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: And as we're finding out, we'll spend more time talking 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: about this this afternoon. Lots of other people appure apparently 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: share that. Sure, that animosity towards the healthcare industry specifically 106 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: in corporate America sort of generally obviously not to this extent. 107 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: One of the things that we know. 108 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Always have its especially in this particularly hyperpartisan time, is 109 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: the politics of crazy that when one of these people 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: acts out, there's a race to try to hang an 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: ideological bent on the person for political gain. And sometimes 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: they get it right, and there is a political a 113 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: real sort of left right political agenda attached to it, 114 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: and then sometimes it's a convoluted mess. I remember there 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: was a guy named Joe Stack in Austin, Texas that 116 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: set his own house on fire and gassed up his 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: plane and flewed into the IRS building in Austin, Texas 118 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: and killed a grandfather who was working on a weekend. 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: And when his manifesto came out, it was just a 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: hodgepodge of all kinds of crazy beliefs, anti Catholic, anti 121 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: socialized man, all kinds of different things that he was 122 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: upset about. And in this particular case, the first thing 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: that jumped out at me is a guy who's apparently 124 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: into health and fitness and concerned about, you know, the 125 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: healthcare in America, And they got him at McDonald's. 126 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 6: That occurred to me too. I guess see he's that's 127 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 6: not the only place where he slipped up, but certainly 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 6: that's one of them. Yeah, he was talking about antidepressant 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 6: drugs in this manifesto and all sorts of things. But 130 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 6: you know, the question is what sends somebody over the edge, 131 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 6: especially somebody that you think, Okay, he's got something to 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 6: live for, somebody has a good education, apparently is gainfully employed. 133 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 6: But again, something there's something that really just gott in 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 6: his claw that he couldn't get rid of, and and 135 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 6: that led. 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: To this, Well, well, undoubtedly were they're gonna obviously we'll 137 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: get his life, you know, at the granular level presented 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: to us. But one thing that strikes me also is 139 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: he was taken alive. He has a manifesto, and a 140 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: lot of times these people want to be heard and 141 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: may in fact wanted to have been caught at some 142 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: level because the trial will be his platform. 143 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely, And he did put those you know, those words 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 6: on the shellcasings deny, and so yeah, I mean, and 145 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 6: we're going to be able to match the handwriting on 146 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: those casings to this manifesto. We have the ideas, and 147 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 6: he did use the very same idea when they identified himself, 148 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 6: you know, in al Tuona that he used at that 149 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: youth hostel. So perhaps that's intentional and he didn't you 150 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 6: know resist arrest in any way, So you may be right. 151 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 6: It may be that he wanted to be caught. Who knows, 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 6: it's it's this is something for a psychologists to study. 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: But what we do know is this person of interest 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: is most likely going to be charged as a suspect 155 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 6: and it's going to be brought back to New York, 156 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 6: and the New York police are there right now, and 157 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 6: the folks at United Healthware health Care released a statement 158 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 6: saying that they're hoping that this is the individual and 159 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 6: that the family can get some closure. 160 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: Okay, as of now, again not charged with the murder 161 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: of mister Thompson, but that's likely to change in the days, 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: certainly within a week or so from now. Thanks so much, 163 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: Dave appreciated from the ABC newsroom in New York. Dave 164 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: Packer with us. We've got a ton of stuff to 165 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: talk about this morning. Quentin Schultze'll be with us in 166 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: just a bit and we're going to talk about his 167 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: new book, He'll Shoot your eye Out, Life Lessons from 168 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: a Christmas Story. But when we get back, I want 169 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: to talk about the murder of Brian Thompson and the 170 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: glee with which so many literally millions of people are 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: not shy about posting this under their own name on 172 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: their social media accounts. They're actually celebrating the murder of 173 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: this man because of the deep seated distrust and the 174 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: only word for it is hatred of the healthcare industry 175 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: for some. 176 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: So we'll get into that. Mcatire in, John Cobbolt. 177 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 7: six forty. 179 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Doug mcatar In for John Cobalt coming up, and just 180 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: a bit, Quentin Schultz, who's got a brand new book 181 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: out called You'll Shoot your Eye Out Life Lessons from 182 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: a Christmas Story, which is the beloved holiday classic that 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: is seen endlessly on TNT right around Christmas Eve. Right, 184 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: we'll get into that in just a bit. Why because 185 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: all the other stories are horrible. That's why, Well, Man, 186 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: although there's some there's an interesting story. The serious story 187 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: is fascinating in a lot of ways. And we're going 188 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: to spend some time on that next hour. I know 189 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: it's a long way away, but man, that's a game 190 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: changer in the Middle East, and it affects so many 191 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: other stories. It can affects Ukraine, it can affect a 192 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: ran certainly putin and an opportunity for incoming President Donald 193 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: Trump as well as a Secretary of State to be 194 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio. So we'll get into all of that, but 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: I want to get back to the Brian Thompson murder. 196 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: We now know that he hasn't been charged yet. 197 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: But the person of interest who's being held picked up 198 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: this morning at McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, is Luigi Mangioni, 199 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: and as it turns out, he allegedly is a purportedly 200 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: is a cousin of Nino Mangioni, who is a Republican 201 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: assembly member, former Republican assembly member in Maryland and a 202 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: radio host a WCBM. 203 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: So we have no idea. 204 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: Again, as I mentioned talking with Dave Packer, we always 205 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: get involved in the politics of crazy when somebody goes 206 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: nuts and starts shooting people up. We try to because 207 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: we look at everything sort of in a left right paradigm. 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: But one of the pitfalls of thinking that way is 209 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: that when you're trying to take the normal what passes 210 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: these days for the normal political spectrum of how people 211 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: think and behave, and you take somebody who's clearly an. 212 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: Outlier who's who's. 213 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: Whatever their political beliefs are or personal beliefs are, have 214 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: metastasized to the point where they then take another life, 215 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, to try to hang them around our political 216 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: opponents to score, you know, low hanging fruit political points 217 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: is a really dicey proposition because the next nut who 218 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: comes along might be on your quote unquote team. But 219 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: but what has happened in the aftermath of the United 220 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: Healthcare CEO's murder is an astonishing outpouring of support for 221 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: the murderer. I mean, really, this is the the number 222 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: of Americans who have come forward and posted under their 223 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: own name. It's not like they're using an anonymous accounts 224 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: and burner phones and fake Facebook and Instagram accounts. 225 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: People are putting their. 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: Name on these posts where they're outright celebrating. I mean, 227 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: that's not too strong a word. In New York City 228 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: there was a dance party in the strains. They had 229 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: a contest to look alike contest for the assassin. 230 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 231 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: There are people posting under their own names and I 232 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: and I got to wonder whether or not people are 233 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: thinking clearly when they do this, because it's one thing 234 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 2: to say, oh, I had it coming It's another thing 235 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: to post on your own name. I want to see 236 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, every employer now checks your social media accounts. 237 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: If you're applying for a job and the HR department 238 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: finds out that you're posting high fives because the CEO 239 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: is gunned down in broad daylight in the middle of 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: New York City, I had to think that that might 241 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: be held against you. But above and beyond that, forget 242 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: about the sort of the in the weeds consequences of that. 243 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: How is it? 244 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: How has it gotten to this point that we literally 245 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: see so many people that are happy that this man 246 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: was killed. Now, look, the healthcare industry makes life and 247 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: death decisions on a daily basis, and they make profits 248 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: and billions of dollars of profits. But is this any 249 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: different If you are a person who's happy that Brian 250 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: Thompson was killed, are you then one of those people 251 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: that condemns the people who want to shoot up abortion clinics? 252 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean, how is it different? We can go back 253 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: through the pages of history and we can find all 254 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: kinds of people who have committed murders who had supporters. 255 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: For instance, one of the famous names from American history, 256 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: John Brown. John Brown's body an epic poem. Right, John 257 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: Brown was a rabbit abolitionist who started basically a mini 258 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Civil war. You could make a case he really kind 259 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: of started the American Civil War in the eighteen footies 260 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: were bleeding Kansas and then ended up in manasses in 261 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: Harper's Fairy in a battle with American troops that became 262 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: a bloody shootout, and he was captured and ultimately hung 263 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: for his crimes. But history validated his point of view 264 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: because he was a radical abolitionist, and over the years, 265 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: as more and more people came to realize the evil 266 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: of chattel slavery, John Brown became a martyr for millions 267 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: of people. But in his own time, Bleeding Kansas was 268 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: horrible when you actually read the details. People were killing 269 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: each other with pickaxes. It was unbelievably violent and vicious. 270 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: So at some point, I know, millions and millions and 271 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: millions of Americans may be horrified by the profits of 272 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: big pharma. And you know, the Sackler family is out there, 273 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, with their billions of dollars. There are a 274 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: lot of corporate villains that we can point to. But 275 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: if you celebrate the death of I's Ryan Thompson, and 276 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: that's now the moral compass by which we're making our 277 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: decisions of right and wrong. Then what happens when somebody 278 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: else kills somebody on the other side because they believe 279 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: that person is an arch villain. This is a kind 280 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: of vigilante street justice that is anathema to the concept 281 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: of the rule of law, and unfortunately it's becoming absolutely pervasive. 282 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: It's this situational ethics where one person's villain is another 283 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: person's hero. I mean, all of the reports, and some 284 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: of them very well documented, of people celebrating on the 285 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: morning of nine to eleven of September eleventh in Jersey 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: City and other places, and especially globally. While a lot 287 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: of the world, the Western world was horrified after the 288 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: World Trade Center and the Pentagon and Shanksville, Pennsylvania took 289 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: place on September eleventh, there were people who were celebrating. 290 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: There were people who was celebrating after the out too 291 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: over seventh attacks in Israel and are on American campuses too. 292 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: So this is a this is something that's it's a 293 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: moment of reflection. Not that I think we do any 294 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: of that anymore, because we're too busy high fiving and 295 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: celebrating the takedown of people we don't personally like. But 296 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: I am telling you from my in my ancient dotage, 297 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: as there are more candles and more and more candles 298 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: showing up my birthday cakes every year. This is a 299 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: slippery slope that we are riding on morally. As much 300 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: as you may have animosity and an outright hatred of 301 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: quote unquote big health, if that's what you want to 302 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: call it. When you celebrate the cold blooded murder of 303 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: a fifty year old because you don't like who he 304 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: works for, then there will be other cases coming when 305 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: you're not going to be so happy with the outcome. 306 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: And it's really kind of a sad commentary that if 307 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: you are successful in today's world, you got to really 308 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: really watch your back. 309 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: And I'm serious. 310 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: On the morning that the Mets side Juan Soto for 311 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 2: this crazy amount of money seven hundred and sixty million dollars, 312 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: I have to wonder, man, Steve Cohen and Juan Soto 313 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: gotta have security. 314 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: You just have to. You gotta target on your back. 315 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: Now. 316 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: Thank god, I'm in radio, I don't have to worry 317 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: about it. 318 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 319 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 7: six forty. 320 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: Doug mcate in for John Cobalt. I will be here 321 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: until four o'clock next hour. We're going to get into 322 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: the fall of the Asad regime in Syria. This is 323 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: an enormous story with all kinds of implications. Also, Daniel Penny, 324 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: you may remember he was on charge trial in New 325 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: York for murder for killing a man who had been 326 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: threatening other subway riders. We'll get into that. He was 327 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: a quitted by the way in court today. So there's 328 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff going on. Seven hundred and sixty 329 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: million dollars to one Soto. Have we lost our minds 330 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: as a nation? 331 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: So tons of stuff to talk about. 332 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to take a brief time out from all 333 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: of the major headline stories because we are on the 334 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: eve of Christmas, and that means that TNT is going 335 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: to be showing on Christmas Eve for twenty four consecutive hours. 336 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: A Christmas Story, the famous tale that features the famous. 337 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: Line you'll shoot your eye out, kid. 338 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: And that's the voice of Gene Shepherd, who created A 339 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Christmas Story, was the co author of the screenplay and 340 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: the narrator of it. There's a brand new book that 341 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: talks about the life lessons from the movie A Christmas Story. 342 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: The author is with us. 343 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: The book is called You'll Shoot your Eye Out. It's 344 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: a pleasure to welcome to KFI. Quentin Schultz, Quinton, how 345 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: are you. 346 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: Hey, Doug great man this time too. I don't have 347 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: to get red eyes listening to you late at night. 348 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Oh those are the days. And Quentin, thanks for being 349 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: with us. I appreciate it. The movie A Christmas Story, 350 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: pretty much everybody has seen. It was actually a failure 351 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: when it came out nineteen eighty five. I remember seeing 352 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: it in New York when it was one thousand degrees 353 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: and I went because of the air conditioning and because 354 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: Gene Shepherd was involved in the project. But it didn't 355 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: really do well. It found itself, and it found this 356 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: massive following once it got to television. 357 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Well, once it got to the video 358 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: cassette in the video conciter reental shops, people started picking 359 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: it up there. They needed PG rated movies for those 360 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: shops and also seasonal movies, and it won both categories. 361 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: Interesting story here is that I contacted Gene Shepherd, who 362 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: is the principal writer of that screenplay and did many 363 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: other types of storytelling because I was a new communication 364 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: professor at Calvin University and I wanted to learn storytelling 365 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 4: from the best, and Shepherd was the best person I 366 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: could find in the country who knew how to tell 367 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: stories really well, as you see in that movie too. 368 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: So we became friends and actually co taught at Calvin 369 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: University the storytelling and he told me all about the 370 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: stories in that movie even before the movie came out. 371 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: And as you say, it did kind of bomb. It 372 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 4: lasted barely from Thanksgiving until Christmas in nineteen eighty three, 373 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: but then it started taking off. Now you can reasonably 374 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: say A Christmas Story is the most popular movie in America, 375 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: seen by over fifty million adults annually on cable TV 376 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 4: channels alone. Last year, Warner Brothers sold almost nine million DVDs. 377 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: It's stunning. But from my angle, the most interesting thing, Doug, 378 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: is that it's not just an entertaining flick. Geene Shepherd's 379 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: stories were always parables that worked on two levels. For instance, 380 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: the leg lamp that everybody loves is actually a trophy wife. 381 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 4: And Gene said to me that the whole deal there 382 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: was the old man became obsessed with that thing, had 383 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: to put it in the front window to turn on 384 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 4: the neighborhood, and Mom had to end the affair that 385 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: the old man was having with that lamp. And for 386 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: Jean that what all of that meant is that guys 387 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: get obsessed with technology and especially things that turn on 388 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 4: and light up and so on, and women have to 389 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: keep them from going bonkers. He felt that way about 390 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: cars too, So the whole movie is filled with these parables. 391 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: One of the funniest parables has to do with the 392 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: idea of not trusting the media. And so he's got 393 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: this thing with the little orphan anti decoder ring and Ralphie, 394 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: the kid you know, goes and he wants this thing. 395 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: He wants to be part of the secret Society and 396 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: all he gets there and he finds out it's a 397 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: crummy commercial and he calls it sob and so that 398 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: was the beginning of his life and not trusting the media. 399 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Chrummy commercial for ovaltine. We're talking with Quentin Schultz. The 400 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: book is called You'll Shoot your Eye Out Life Lessons 401 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: from the Movie at Christmas Story And by the way, 402 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: it's not just available at Amazon, but if you want 403 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: to get a signed copy, you can go to Quentin 404 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Schultz Square site and we'll get you all of that information. 405 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: So I want to talk about Gene Shepard for a second. 406 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: I am sitting behind the KFI microphone today because I 407 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: grew up listening to Jeene Shepherd as a kid, sneaking 408 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: a nine volt transistor radio underneath my pillow when I 409 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: was eight, nine, ten eleven years of age. I was 410 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 2: literally weaned on Jean Shepherd. Everything I've ever done in 411 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: my professional life I owe to him, even though I 412 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: never met the man. He's one of the great geniuses 413 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: of this medium of radio. It's ironic that the movie 414 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: A Christmas Story really has become his legacy. But his 415 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: true genius was in narrative storytelling, basically spontaneous fiction that 416 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: he would tell on a nightly basis on AM radio. Today, 417 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: he'd be a podcaster. But what's interesting to me about 418 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: the movie, Quenton, is that it's very nostalgic, and yet 419 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: I've never I never believed Gene was interested in nostalgia. 420 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: In fact, he was too cynical and had too dark 421 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: vision of humanity for actual nostalgia, And that kind of 422 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: is is summarized in the Little Orphan any Dakota rings 423 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: scene because it's a disappointment. 424 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And in fact, he had a pretty negative 425 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: view of human nature, and that works through all of 426 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: his stories. I talk about that in the book at 427 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: some length. It wasn't totally negative. There were things that 428 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 4: would happen that were funny and interesting in life that 429 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: he enjoyed. But yeah, he had a pretty negative view. 430 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: But what a phenomenal storyteller up and down the East Coast. 431 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: When he was on wr radio at night, he influenced 432 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: so many people. I remember talking to Jerry Seinfeld and Malibu, 433 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: and Jerry says that he learned his entire comedic sensibility 434 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: from Gene Shepherd. So when you watch this movie, you're 435 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 4: not just seeing something that's pretty superficial storytelling. And how 436 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: Gene gets his point of view all of these life 437 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: lessons in there, twenty life lessons I outline in the book. 438 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 4: He gets them in there because he plays the older. 439 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: It's not an objective narrator. He's there speaking as an 440 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: older Ralfie on what the meaning was of life and 441 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: what he learned growing up. So the kind of anti 442 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: nostalgic aspect of it is him reflecting back on the 443 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: fact that things were not quite as great as he 444 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: thought when he was a kid. 445 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Bob Clark director Bob Clark, who was 446 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: also credited as one of the co writers of the screenplay, 447 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: gave it that nostalgic veneer that probably made it a 448 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: commercial success, because Gene was always sort of a boutique product, 449 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: encapsulated by the way. I remember hearing Gene say something 450 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: fifty years ago that stuck with me forever, because it's 451 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: one of the greatest definitions certainly of a young boy, 452 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: of like a nine year old Ralphie, aged boy that 453 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: ever already said when I was nine, I didn't have secrets. 454 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: I was a secret And I think that. 455 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: That's really you see that element in Ralphie's life as 456 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: portrayed in a Christmas story when he has to spill 457 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: the beans that has real lust. His obsession is this 458 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: red writer bb gun that the whole adult world is saying, 459 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: you will shoot your eye out, and even Santa Claus 460 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: and ultimately nearly does. Clinton Schultz is with us. You 461 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: know what I want to talk about the comedy of obsession. 462 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: Gene also talked about the movie a Christmas Story, and 463 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: he referred to Moby Dick and he as as this 464 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: is you know, Ralphie getting the bb gun is his 465 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: white whale. And he described Moby Dick as a comedy 466 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: if you look at it the right way. It's this 467 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: guy's nuts about a whale and he takes everybody down 468 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: with him. 469 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: Okay, so here we go, Doug, this is this is 470 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: one of the secrets in the book that I got 471 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: from Shepard directly. All males pursue something to the point 472 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: of obsession, certain things. He believed it was built in 473 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: It was primordial in the genes, baby, and so we 474 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 4: pursue things as males, we get super obsessed about them, 475 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: and then women have to bring us back to reality, 476 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 4: whether it's a car or a rifle or this contest 477 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: that he's obsessed with winning, and Mom's the one who 478 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: gives him the right answer for it, and that leads 479 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: to the leg lamp. This is what he saw, and 480 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: he believed that we all have this male problem. In fact, 481 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: he had the reverse of the common stereotype of male 482 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: and female. Men were incurably romantic and irrational and women 483 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: were rational and problem solvers who would get men out 484 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: of problems that they got into because of the very 485 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: obsessions that you're talking about. 486 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Quentin, tell folks where they can get a sign copy. 487 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, the best thing to do is just go to 488 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 4: my website, Quentin Schultz. Don't worry about how to spell it. 489 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: I'm the only Quentin Schultz out there. You'll get it 490 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: and on there, I'll have a link to the place 491 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: where you can get a sign copy if you want, 492 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: or of course you can go to Amazon or whatever 493 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: it's you'll shoot your eye out. Life Lessons from the 494 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: movie A Christmas Story. 495 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: All right, good luck with the book. Thanks so much 496 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: for being with us today. I appreciate it. 497 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Great to talk to you. 498 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into I 499 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: want to tell you when we come back. I'm going 500 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: to tell you about how one teacher spent his Thanksgiving weekend. 501 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how your Thanksgiving went, but this is 502 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: a kind of an interesting way one teacher decided to 503 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: spend his Thanksgiving. 504 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: And we'll update you on all the breaking news stories. 505 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six. 506 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: Doug mcatarre in for John Cobbolt till four o'clock. Timmy 507 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: will be along at that time. Hey, we're in December. 508 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: People are doing holiday shopping. How about getting a copy 509 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: of my book, Frank Shadow. Put that under the tree, 510 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: put that under your minora, put that wherever you want 511 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: to put. I don't care where you put it. Just 512 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: get it out of my attic. It's available at Amazon 513 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: dot com. And by the way, if you'd like to 514 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: sign copy of that, I'd be happy to do that. 515 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: Go to Doug Mcatyre dot com and you can purchase 516 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: a signed copy, which I'll get out you pronto in 517 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: time for the holidays. 518 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: But I appreciate the support on that. 519 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, So there are I just spend I haven't 520 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: seen you deb since Thanksgiving? 521 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: What did you? Was it at the house? Yes? 522 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: I had it at our house and we had all 523 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 5: the kids. Our kids are all scattered all over the place, 524 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: so we had about twenty people at our house. And no, 525 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: I did not eat any turkey. 526 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: Well I know that you're not going to just gonna 527 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: have a cauliflower shaped like a turkey. 528 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, Okay, it was very nice. 529 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: Did you have a nice Thanksgiving? I did? I did. 530 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm almost done with the dishes. Huh. A couple more 531 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: days and I'll have them all put away. 532 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: Oh no, I had to have everything done the next day. Bye, 533 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: the next day, I actually did. I just am obsessive 534 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: about that. I just jump right in because if they 535 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 5: it's like taking the lights down. The Christmas lights, which 536 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: I put up on December first, will come down on 537 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: New Year's Day, on January first, when the rest of 538 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: the country is watching the rose Ball Parade. And I 539 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 5: know people in Pasadena hate when I call it that 540 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: because it's a tournament of roses parade. 541 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Right, it's a rose ball Paraye. 542 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: I will be on a ladder taking the lights down 543 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: because if it goes to January second, they'll be up 544 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: in August. 545 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: You gotta take him down, right, Yeah, I get it. 546 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: I get it. 547 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, so we had you know, the first major holiday, 548 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is over. We're steaming towards Christmas and all of 549 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. Meanwhile, here's how a gentleman in Florida chose 550 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: to spend his Thanksgiving weekend. He's a teacher, I should 551 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: say he was a teacher. He was a teacher, and 552 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: he lost his gig because he was found naked inside 553 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: a classroom, surrounded by a peculiar assortment of items, including 554 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: sex toys, women's underwear, pot and some food and a laptop. 555 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 5: This is a teacher, Yeah, what grade does he teach. 556 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: He's a thirty four year old named Joe Urius and 557 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 2: the school was closed over the Thanksgiving a break. Nobody 558 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: else was on site, including no children present. Was nobody 559 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: inside the school, but somebody noticed a person moving around 560 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: the dime. Cops showed up, and the cops came in. 561 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: And I love this quote from the Port Saint Lucy 562 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: police Chief Leo Nimzic, who said there were no children present. 563 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: There was nobody inside the school at the time. He 564 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: was by himself. 565 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 6: You know. 566 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: As to the vulgarity, I think I just don't even 567 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: want to get into his mind and think about what 568 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: he was thinking. 569 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing. 570 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: I think, for all of our sakes, that's probably a 571 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: good idea. The police gave Chase. He ended up punching 572 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: one of the cops, and the cops said, I hit 573 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: him in the jaw and I was able to hold 574 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: him with a jiu jitsu seat belt grip. 575 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: While this guy was naked. 576 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 5: He was causing all this. 577 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that cops getting enough money. Oh god, 578 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: that's he said. 579 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: He was homeless and that he had been doing his 580 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: teaching at his school and then hanging out of the 581 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: Starbucks and then sleeping in public whenever he can. He 582 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: had been a teacher at Somerset College Preparatory Academy. He 583 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: has promptly been fired from that position. This is not 584 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: how you want your Thanksgiving to go. 585 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: No, uh. 586 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: And you know, we'll see how his story plays out 587 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: over the next couple of years. But there is a 588 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: I remember a worse one from a few years back 589 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: when there was a guy caught in West Virginia who 590 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: was caught having. 591 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: Unnatural relations with a sheep. That's unnatural, Yes, in a 592 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: living nativity scene in the town square. 593 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 594 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just not right that you were going to 595 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: definitely want to make sure you use some woolighte before 596 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: you get near that. 597 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: Anyway, this stuff happens, and sometimes people just go off 598 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 3: the rails a little bit. 599 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 600 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: In the next hour, we have tons of stuff to 601 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: talk about. Will update you, uh, the very latest information 602 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: that comes in on the person of interest related to 603 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: the murder of mister Thompson, the CEO of United Health. 604 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: We have a person of interests whose name is Hi 605 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: and apparently whose cousin. Nino Mangioni, is a radio host 606 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: of WCBM and a former member of the General Assembly 607 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: in the state of Maryland. Appears to be a Maryland native. 608 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: He was picked up at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. 609 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: Has not yet been charged with the murder of Thompson, 610 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: but is believed to be the person who did so. 611 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: He's held on weapons charges. Found with a weapon and 612 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: a manifesto. By the way, I'm actually thinking of writing 613 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: a manifesto. 614 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: And here's why. 615 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: I don't have some burning hatred for any particular person 616 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: and or place or thing in the world, but I'm 617 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: thinking of writing one just because it would make me 618 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: so much more interesting when I do croak. I mean, 619 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: if my wife is going through my personal effects, or 620 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: the kids, god God bless them, if they have to 621 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: go throw my Frank Sinatra CDs and presidential biographies and 622 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: ABA nostalgia. But if they find like a thirty eight 623 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: page handwritten manifesto, all of a sudden, They're going to 624 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: see me in a whole different light. I think we 625 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: could really shape our legacy if all of us would 626 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: just take a little time to write a manifesto, just 627 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: as long. 628 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 5: As we're not talking about killing people and doing stuff 629 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 5: like that. 630 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 3: Right, Let's put it this way. Even if you are yeah, 631 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: don't do it, but I'm just saying, get it out 632 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: on paper. 633 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 5: So you're going to get it out on paper. 634 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: Made you wish that? Maybe you did arms. We all 635 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: have moments. We all have moments. 636 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: You can remember somebody that used to work for or with, 637 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: In fact, you used to work with me, didn't you. 638 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: Well, I understand where your manifesto may have been coming from. 639 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: That was a long year. 640 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: All right, ladies in general, let's get into that KFI 641 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: newsroom the very latest and here's debor Mark. 642 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 643 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 644 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 645 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on iHeartRadio app.