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Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry

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Speaker 1: over there. Stuff you should know. I'm just so sick

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Speaker 1: of my voice right now. I just looked over almost

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Speaker 1: a check to see if Jerry was there. Even though

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Speaker 1: this room is so small, She's always visible, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I did that. How are you okay?

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Speaker 1: It's a dude, it's my voice. Man, it's driving me crazy.

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Speaker 1: So wound up and caffeinated, and we just talked about

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Speaker 1: dark money. Oh yeah, maybe we should have recorded that

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Speaker 1: last Maybe he could have just done power lifting for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Jim, what do uh? So

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Speaker 1: we did an episode. I'm not done talking about power lifting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm just kidding. I don't want to interrupt you. Uh.

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Speaker 1: November we did an episode on collective hysteria? Yes, not

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Speaker 1: too long ago. What is collective hysteria? Yeah? And it

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Speaker 1: was a good one. Was that a shot at me

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Speaker 1: just now? Because I interrupt you a lot? Was what

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Speaker 1: a shot that? You don't want to interrupt me because

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Speaker 1: I interrupt you? It's part of the show. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to, and I feel badly when I noticed it.

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Speaker 1: How do you notice it? I would say six tenths

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Speaker 1: of the time, So three fifths is another way to

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Speaker 1: put that. I can live with that. Um, it was

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Speaker 1: a good episode, but we did not cover There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of cases of mass hysteria, and we only

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Speaker 1: covered a small portion. Yeah, we're not gonna go in

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Speaker 1: depth about what mass hysteria is. If you want that,

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Speaker 1: go listen to that episode, which is a good one

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. Yeah, we should talk about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit, sure, because I think there's stuff in

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Speaker 1: here that we didn't even cover about the overall thing,

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Speaker 1: or at least it didn't seem familiar to me. So

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Speaker 1: it's also called mass psychogenic illness, collective delusions, uh, conversion disorder.

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Speaker 1: What else? Um, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: You need to duplicate that though with like tin Josh

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Speaker 1: is doing it at once. That's a good right there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jerry could do that, she says she can't. It's

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Speaker 1: a real thing, though, and basically it is when um,

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Speaker 1: people have physical symptoms of something without there being a

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Speaker 1: physical cause. Not only that, so that's a psychosomatic illness.

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Speaker 1: For a mass psychogenic illness, the psychosomatic illness is catching. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's an epidemic, an infection of imagined illness, that's right,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty awesome. Oh, it's amazing. I mean not

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Speaker 1: when you're going through it and you're suffering, because the

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Speaker 1: people who are suffering are actually experiencing suffering. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: there there. It might be made up, it might be

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Speaker 1: all in their heads, but to them it's quite real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it is sociologically and psychoical, logically, psychicologically speaking, I'm sick, people,

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Speaker 1: so I apologize if I'm not talking good m uh.

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Speaker 1: Psychologically speaking and sociologically, it's just like utterly fascinating. Um.

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Speaker 1: One thing that happens is is usually triggered by some

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Speaker 1: sort of stress, uh, some sort of emotional trigger. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it usually happens in very close knit communities. Um,

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Speaker 1: often among young women. They're very susceptible to it, apparently,

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Speaker 1: perhaps isolated communities. Yeah, and then communities of people who

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Speaker 1: lot of say in their own lives. Um. And they, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a means of saying there's something very wrong

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Speaker 1: in my world. Yes, that's people who study these things.

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Speaker 1: That's what they've come up with. Like I've got no voice,

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Speaker 1: but I can break out in a rash. I can

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Speaker 1: bark like a dog and make you do it too, exactly. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the outcome supposedly for this, for getting over this is

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Speaker 1: better in children than adults, even though more children are

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Speaker 1: makes total sense, like a kid's more likely to follow

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Speaker 1: along with the crowd. But then also be like, what

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Speaker 1: were we just having a rash about? Let's go play Nintendo?

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Speaker 1: So let's all go play Nintendo because it's I wish

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Speaker 1: I had an old any Yes, like the original one

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Speaker 1: and a copy of Mike Tysones Punch Out. That's all

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Speaker 1: you need. Yeah, I was into the whatever that first

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Speaker 1: Mario game was where it was the big world? Mario Brothers?

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Speaker 1: Was that a super Mario Brothers? And then Metroid? Did

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Speaker 1: Genesis maybe head street Fighter. No, I wouldn't say of Genesis.

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Speaker 1: made grades in the classes. In the classes, man, I

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Speaker 1: need a nap. You want to talk about semes hysterias? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about nuns in the Middle Ages? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So in in uh, the in medieval times, not the restaurant, no,

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Speaker 1: there weren't mental asylums at the time, so you couldn't

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Speaker 1: convent or a nunnery. Wow. So like a brother could

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Speaker 1: do that to a sister. Oh, yes, yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: rightfully there's Or if you had a daughter who was um,

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Speaker 1: unattractive or possibly disfigured, Uh, you could say, I don't

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Speaker 1: a comment or a nunnery. And it sounds pretty bad,

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Speaker 1: and in a lot of cases it was. But it

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't it wasn't all bad. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: why did did anybody get sent to convents? And that

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Speaker 1: But these these places were very strict and tight knit,

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Speaker 1: and so they were ripe for mass psychogenic illnesses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're worried about that. After the convents, after the nunnery Uh,

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Speaker 1: But uh, in medieval times there were more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred cases of mass hysterias breaking out. It happened a

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Speaker 1: lot those one in Spain and the fifteen hundreds where

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Speaker 1: nuns bleeded like sheep and had convulsions, one in France,

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Speaker 1: a cat. Yes, caught on, caught on like wildfire. Apparently

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Speaker 1: in this convent. By within a few days, all of

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Speaker 1: the problems though. In medieval times in France, cats were

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Speaker 1: stopped me. Right. But that's that's a really important point

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Speaker 1: that there is a widespread belief that you could become possessed,

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Speaker 1: Rather than them just me owing and going along with

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Speaker 1: All right, maw, let's uh move on to the kissing

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Speaker 1: bug scare of eight. Uh try a toman bugs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: a parasite that can cause a disease called Chagas disease,

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Speaker 1: and Chagas disease wasn't described until nineteen o six or

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Speaker 1: o nine, and this kissing bug outbreak was eighteen ninety

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Speaker 1: nine in the United States. And a kissing bug is

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Speaker 1: called that because they bite you. They feast on your

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Speaker 1: for you afterward. When it finishes feasting on your blood

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Speaker 1: through your lips, it turns around and poops on the

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Speaker 1: that was coming, and in doing so, it can infect

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Speaker 1: the top of California all the way across the United States,

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Speaker 1: and anything below that, um, you might have kissing bugs.

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Speaker 1: So by this bug was well known to science already,

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Speaker 1: talk about the Halifax slasher of ninety eight. Halifax, England,

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Speaker 1: it is. It's not the Princess Pride. King Humper didn't

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00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: get it or Prince Humper didn't gets it from somebody.

423
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: It's what I'm thinking, Well that happens. Are you sure

424
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: there's something When you're thinking, yeah, somebody Old right in

425
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: and tell me. It was like they were faced off

426
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: and we're gonna fight, and then they and the guy

427
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: had a knife I think on his knuckle. And then

428
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: at the variant, Oh, I know, Platoon got it. Tom

429
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Barnger and Charlie Sheen he cuts had had the blade

430
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: on his knuckle and he had it right in his eye,

431
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: and he was gonna punch him, and they all talked

432
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: him down and right at the very and he just

433
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: went slash and slashed him. Well, Platoon and Princess Bright

434
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: are virtually interchangeable, the same same story. Good point. So yeah,

435
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Platoon was a good movie. That was a big college

436
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: movie for me. I'll watched that a lot. All right,

437
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: we're rambling, so that means we should take a break in.

438
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Old, get us back in order. I think I

439
00:25:50,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: said Platoon is a good movie. All right, Chuck, Let's

440
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: head on over to uh tangan Yika also known as Tanzania.

441
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: You mean Tanzania, but back in nine two was known

442
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: as Tanganyika and um in Tanga Tanganyika, there was a

443
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: boarding school, a girl's boarding school, so you can understand

444
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: what's about to happen there. And some girls started to giggle,

445
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and apparently it wasn't like a happy giggle. It was

446
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: like a nervous giggle, you know, like anxious laughter. And

447
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: it started to spread, Yes, which is normal enough, giggling

448
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: like the church giggle you ever heard of that it's contagious,

449
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: hard to stop. And that's usually if you're in a

450
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: place where you shouldn't be laughing and you can't contain it,

451
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: and then your friends starts laughing and you can't contain

452
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: it and you have to go excuse yourself. Then you

453
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: never go back in the room. So this supposedly lasted

454
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: though for like six months, six months to a year

455
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: and a half, spreading all over the place, depending on

456
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: who you ask. Uncontrollable and contagious laughter. Uh, they had

457
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: to shut down the school, yeah, for two months and

458
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: then they're like, okay, surely it's over, and I opened

459
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: it back up, started by back up. So this one

460
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: bothered me a little bit because you can't just constantly

461
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: giggle and laugh, and it's impossible. I read this this

462
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: interview with the guy. Um, I read the same one,

463
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the Chicago Tribune interview. Yeah, so that I think he

464
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: made a pretty good point. He was saying, like, there's

465
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: very there's a lot of misinformation about this. First of all,

466
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: it's called the laughter epidemic. So people just think like

467
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: it's like the Monty Python, It's Funniest Jokes Kit or something, right, Um,

468
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: that's not the case. It was again, it was not

469
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: joyful after it was anxious laughter. And then there were

470
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: plenty of other symptoms too. There was crying, there was pain,

471
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: there was fainting. Yeah, Um, and there was definitely laughter.

472
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: And it definitely did spread, but it wasn't just like

473
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: constant laughter. Yeah, and um it did. It did last

474
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: for at least six months, and it did spread to

475
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: other villages because when these girls who were at this

476
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: boarding school away from home were sent home because the

477
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: school was shut down, they actually took it with them

478
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: to their other villages, which suggests that the stress that

479
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: um kicked this off was not just at the boarding school,

480
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: that it was larger than that. And around this time

481
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: Tanzania was had gained independence, so there was a lot

482
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: of anxiety about what the future held. So it started

483
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: at the school where the girls were apparently very challenged academically,

484
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: and then uh, it spread it through the stress of

485
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: you know what, what's the future gonna bring. That's the

486
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: that's the official line that this one linguist has come

487
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: up with. I believe it. That one's not so great now.

488
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the off sited examples though,

489
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: of a genuine mass psychogenic illness. You know, because the

490
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: fact that it's spread from outside of a tiny boarding

491
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: school into the larger into villages outside of it, that's

492
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: that's a tense situation. It is very tense. Uh. The

493
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: West Bank fainting epidemic of that spring, about a thousand

494
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: young Arabs in the West Bank started feeling sick and uh,

495
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Like a lot of these cases, it's like dizziness, headache, weird,

496
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: stomach pains. It's like things that you can't really put

497
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: a finger on as far as tracing it back, like well,

498
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: this must be something. Uh. And so of course because

499
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: of where it was uh. And then these were young schoolgirls,

500
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: largely we're twelve to seventeen years old. So because of

501
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: where it was in the world, Uh, Palestinian leaders started saying,

502
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: you know what, Israelis are using chemical warfare against us. Yeah,

503
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: because the first kids to fall ill had reported smelling

504
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: like a foul odor, kind of like rotten eggs. And

505
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: if you're in that part of the world, you got

506
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: kids breaking out in rashes and and uh, stomach pain

507
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: and blurred vision and they're smelling something funny. That's pretty

508
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: logical conclusion to come to. And so the Israelis countered

509
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: back with if there's any chemical warfare being used, you

510
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: guys are using it on your own people, so you

511
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: can blame us. So these kids fell ill from the smell,

512
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Palestine and Israel are like

513
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: publicly going at it, accusing one another of using chemical

514
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: warfare on their own on Arab kids. This is a

515
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: big deal. When this happened, it was a big deal,

516
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: and it could have escalated to who knows what, But um,

517
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: the fact is there was nothing going on at all.

518
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: It was another case of mass collective hysteria. They closed

519
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: schools in the West Bank. Um, no one else got sick. Uh.

520
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: They've they've searched all the buildings and the schools, and

521
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: they found no chemical residue, no mouthfeasance going on whatsoever.

522
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: They found a smelly bathroom, though, and they think that

523
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: might have been the source of the initial foul smell

524
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: that kicked it all off. A stinky bathroom. Some boy

525
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: uh went into the hurt locker. He logged out. That

526
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: was a reference to a listener mail, by the way,

527
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I know, and somebody else wrote in the best one

528
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, logged out. I was like, you want

529
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: logged out for taking a poop? I gotta go log out.

530
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay, I got it. Well, that's pretty good.

531
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: It is good. It does relevant. It's like that Simpsons.

532
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: I think I just logged onto my internet. Do you

533
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: remember was that Ralph? No, it was m Carl went

534
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: back when they were kids when they can't fig about

535
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: why Homer's having a mental breakdown. It's because he discovered

536
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: a dead body years ago and then repressed the memory.

537
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: And Carl's talking about the interneting on his bathing suit.

538
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: And then later on he goes, I think I just

539
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: logged onto my internet. So great. They blamed the West Bank. Uh,

540
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: fainting epidemic on stress and anxiety. Uh. And then of

541
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: course there were news reports of the toxic gas and

542
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: so that's why it's spread. And Chuck, we can do

543
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: this all day, but we're not going to. Let's bring

544
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: it home with one more so. In Portugal, in May

545
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: of two thousand and six, there was a teen soap

546
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: opera called Save by the Bell, called Morongos calm asuka.

547
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: That's my Portuguese. What do you think? Pretty good? I

548
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: mean strawberries with sugar. It was the name of the uh,

549
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the the teen show Delicious, And in May of two

550
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: thousand six, the show aired an episode where this mysterious

551
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: illness was striking kids down left and right, and the

552
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: source of the disease was at school. It was being

553
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: spread at school. It was a virus, and all of

554
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, kids in the real world who were watching

555
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: strawberses Sugar started to come down with a very strangely

556
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: similar disease. Yeah. Um, I don't know if we said

557
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: it was in two thousand and six. All right, well,

558
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: let's drive that home because that was a big year. Um.

559
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Was that the year we started our show No. Two

560
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: thousands seven eight, But we've added since two thousand eight.

561
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy year eight man, who knew that we would

562
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: one day be veterans of a medium old veterans like

563
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: we were good around on our porch or their Confederate

564
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: pistols under our blankets. That's right. Uh So these kids

565
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: were not only at one school, they were at fourteen

566
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: different schools around the country, which was a little different

567
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: than most cases because usually it's like it starts in

568
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: this one school. But that's because the clear cause of

569
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: this was this television show that kids loved all over

570
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: the country. The yeah, was this episode of a TV show. Absolutely,

571
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: and luckily the Portuguese authorities health authorities, they did some

572
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: investigating and they figured out that this is mass psychogenic illness.

573
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting stuff, and they said, what, the kids are

574
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: really stressed about our final exams? Well, they think it

575
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: started with some kids who had actual allergies and had

576
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: seen this episode and started worrying that their own allergies

577
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: were actually symptom of a disease that spread the kids

578
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: who were basically going along with it be out of

579
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: stress from exams. Yeah. The good thing about this one

580
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: is because it was two thousand six, you can go

581
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: on the internet and look at their articles. You can

582
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: log onto your internet. You can log onto your internet

583
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: and look up art articles that are like is the

584
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: strawberries with sugar virus? Real? Like people were writing into newspapers.

585
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: You know, my kid is having these symptoms, Like is

586
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: it a real thing? Did they or did they just

587
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: make this up? And it still goes on? I mean

588
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: apparently this these So there's two kinds. Basically, there's motor

589
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: um illness and then there's anxiety. And anxiety is more

590
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: like fainting, upset, stomach headache, motors where you're twitching and

591
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: mowing and stuff like that. Um. But there's supposedly hundreds

592
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: of these cases around the world every year. They happen

593
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: a lot. Maybe it'll come to your town if you're lucky,

594
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: join right in. I say, yeah me, Allen, bite the

595
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: night away, let it loose for a week. Uh. If

596
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: you want to know more about mass hysterias, go listen

597
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: to what is collective hysteria or other episode and then

598
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: uh you can search for mass hysteria also in the

599
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: search part Houston works dot com. Since I said also

600
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: it's time for your listener mail, I'm gonna call this

601
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: long overdue. I printed this one out months ago and

602
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: told Georgia that I was going to read it and

603
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: for god, it's about the fairy tales. Hedge Hedge. My

604
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: name is Georgia. I live in Stockholm. Hedge, I think

605
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: hatch hedges. Hey, hey, sure in Swedish. Uh, Stockholm Swedie. Yes,

606
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: we did another good episode on Stockholm. Singer right that

607
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: a k a. The Swedish Delight. Sure, that's what the

608
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: cops call it. He's got the sweih del My name

609
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: is Georgia and I live in Stockholm. I've been listening

610
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: to your show for a few years. I love it.

611
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: I recently listened to the Dark Fairy Tales episode and

612
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I asked my husband about the term ashen put since

613
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: he's German and I often used Disney movies to help

614
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: teach me Swedish. Uh. He figured out that it's kind

615
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: of a play on words and implies a scullery maid

616
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: covered in ashes. Ashen is ash as opposed to cinder,

617
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: which is incorrectly used in the English name, since if

618
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: you were covered in cinders, you know severe burns. As

619
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: it is pieces of burning slag. It's true. It is

620
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: translated from the French word for ashes, which is cinda. Uh,

621
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: puto doesn't exist in German, he says, Uh, I don't

622
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: know that sounds so German to me. It sounds pretty German.

623
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: But the term for scullion or kitchen helper is ashan brutal.

624
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you took German. So this is the

625
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: male form, he thinks, Ashan put it sounds like words

626
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: are just growing in your mouth, like you know those

627
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: dinosaurs you can get wet and they turn into giant

628
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: sponge dinosaurs. No, but I do know the little lead

629
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: pellets that you would like that would grow into big

630
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: snakes close enough, Those are what are growing in your

631
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: mouth when you're saying during the words. He thinks, ashan

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