WEBVTT - Orel Hershiser on Dodgers Territory

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<v Speaker 1>Oral, good to be with you, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>As we are basically a third of the way through

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<v Speaker 1>the season. What grade would you give your Dodgers to

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<v Speaker 1>this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So the bar is so high. I can't give

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<v Speaker 2>them an A because you know that would be probably

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<v Speaker 2>undefeated for the bar they raised for themselves with this

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<v Speaker 2>roster and talent and everything they got going. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely at a B plus. And I'd say there a

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<v Speaker 2>B plus because it's a little streaky. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>streaky for the offense. You know, there's the big highs

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<v Speaker 2>of ten games or so of over ten runs, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you have the games where they don't score three,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they would tell you that they're a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more streaky. But they're beating the teams they should beat,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're beating some of the high caliber teams too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, got a high caliber player there both sides

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<v Speaker 3>of the ball with show Hao Tani. And we talk

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about show Hao Tani, and also the same times,

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<v Speaker 3>not enough about what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>We know what he could do with the bat.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen that a lot over the first two years

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<v Speaker 3>of him and Dodge Blue. But now he is a

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<v Speaker 3>full time two way player in his third season in

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<v Speaker 3>Dodge Blue, and it's impressive. We're talking about right now

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<v Speaker 3>in era as of the time, we're recording an era

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<v Speaker 3>under one. Even when he doesn't have his best command,

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff is still just so dangerous, so dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen anything like a show Hey Otani,

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<v Speaker 3>even down to the little league where you guys were

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<v Speaker 3>going to pitching and playing shortstop and you know, catching

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<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff at the same time, like the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of talent that this dude has just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>talk about seeing the unicorn day unicorn day in and

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<v Speaker 3>day out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you have a million people at the

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<v Speaker 2>little league level that can do this. Then it as

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<v Speaker 2>you go up the pyramid of sports and you get

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<v Speaker 2>near the peak, of course it's it's only one. There's him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>where do they start to fall off. They really start

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<v Speaker 2>to fall off around college because high school coaches let

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<v Speaker 2>their best athletes do both. They're in the game no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what, with their bat, with their arm on the mound,

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<v Speaker 2>that shortstop. At college, you see a few and there's

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<v Speaker 2>few more now that show Hey is doing what he's doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and the big leagues are grasping and really hugging the

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<v Speaker 2>two way player because it expands their roster. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that but one of a kind. He's one of

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<v Speaker 2>a kind, and it's not only one of a generation.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be one of a lifetime for people, and

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<v Speaker 2>it could be once every hundred years we see somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't mean somebody's going to do it both ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody is going to do it at an elite level.

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<v Speaker 2>And elite is not an easy word to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can say elite for him on both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and you're not stretching it. Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been accused on this podcast of being a rookie

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<v Speaker 5>Sasaki apologist, and I think it's important to remember that

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<v Speaker 5>he is, although he comes rightfully with so much hype

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<v Speaker 5>and fanfare, still a pitching prospect, and as we saw

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<v Speaker 5>him go through May took a lot of steps forward.

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<v Speaker 5>What have you seen from Ropie over the last few

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<v Speaker 5>starts that has you encouraged?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he's gone through the natural adjustments of

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<v Speaker 2>somebody coming from the far East, and the change of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and the number of games and how often

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to pitch, the length of the spring training,

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<v Speaker 2>food culture, travel, all the different things, but the microscope

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<v Speaker 2>was on him and he wasn't really allowed to go

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<v Speaker 2>through those without being judged. And then the performance of

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<v Speaker 2>last year and then you know, putting it together and

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<v Speaker 2>then contributing in a big way in the playoffs in

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series. I thought it was a great transformation

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<v Speaker 2>and a great step forward. But then he comes back

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<v Speaker 2>into spring training to be started on and he starts

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<v Speaker 2>and amazing. It's probably because he needs to throw a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more pitches and a lot more consistently, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had not built the consistency yet. He had the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to be a short reliever. He had the stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>go out there for an inning or two, but to

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<v Speaker 2>go around the order a second time, to let the

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<v Speaker 2>opposing team start to see what you're landing and what

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<v Speaker 2>you're not landing. He went through a serious learning curve

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<v Speaker 2>and went through a lot of defeat and with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it softened his personality. It softened his ability

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you know what I do need to change,

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<v Speaker 2>and that happens with all young players. With certain players,

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<v Speaker 2>we see them go up and down from the miners,

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<v Speaker 2>they get exposed, they learn what they need to work on,

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<v Speaker 2>they go back down to the Triple A, they get

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<v Speaker 2>exposed again, they get called up and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>work on even more. We're not seeing that with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's having to develop at the big league level. I

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<v Speaker 2>think one thing it's because they really think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to pop at any time, because of the great ability.

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<v Speaker 2>The other reason I think is because he's very popular

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<v Speaker 2>on the team and guys around him want to succeed

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<v Speaker 2>and we have the ability of a rott to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of carry somebody. Kind Of like when Sandy Kofax came

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<v Speaker 2>to the big leagues and he was a draft pick

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<v Speaker 2>that got one hundred thousand dollars or more and he

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<v Speaker 2>had to stay in the big leagues for the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>to keep him because that was the rule. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the same thing around Sasaki. It's like, the

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<v Speaker 2>potential is there. We've got him, we got time to

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<v Speaker 2>develop him, and we've got the talent around him that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to hurt our playoff chances that he

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<v Speaker 2>can do it. And what have I seen in him

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<v Speaker 2>physically or mentally or emotionally. I've seen mechanical changes. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen consistency, I've seen the confidence grow, and at all

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<v Speaker 2>is like executed, and the results are when he's in

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<v Speaker 2>the strike zone. We knew if he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the strike zone, he's going to be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And that Connor McGinnis and Mark Pryor have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>added the slider and up the usage of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's gained confidence in that. And now he actually has

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<v Speaker 2>a breaking ball to compliment the split, to compliment what

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<v Speaker 2>used to be the fork, to compliment the four seam

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<v Speaker 2>fastball up and the four seam fastball and two seamed

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<v Speaker 2>fastball down. He's got to another breaking ball that gives

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<v Speaker 2>him a weapon that on certain days when he's not

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<v Speaker 2>landing the split, he can land the slider.

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<v Speaker 1>August thirtieth, nineteen eighty eight, the sixth inning of a

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Expos ended in the tenth inning of

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<v Speaker 1>the September twenty eighth start against the San Diego Padres.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, very early in my tenure with you on

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<v Speaker 1>the set for Sports and at LA we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the scoreless inning streak and it came up that

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<v Speaker 1>you had fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you did that? Was you? You're like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't know that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that now. I know that now it's

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<v Speaker 1>so impressive. It's still the record in Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>for consecutive scoreless innings. So, Bulldog, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>brag a little bit on what Christopher Sanchez of the

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<v Speaker 1>Phillies is doing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the interviews have started. I think he's at around

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<v Speaker 2>forty four as of this taping. I think that with

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Sanchez, he's going through a great time in his life.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing something that he loves and he's doing it

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<v Speaker 2>very well. The baseball probabilities of us ground ball pitchers,

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<v Speaker 2>their balls are being hit at people. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not making mistakes up and when you do, your outfielders

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<v Speaker 2>are catching it for you. It's a team record, but

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<v Speaker 2>it also gets attributed to an individual. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the worst part of my personality when I got to

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<v Speaker 2>the big leagues was reacting to things and not responding

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<v Speaker 2>to things. And so you have to be learned to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good responder. And a response is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a thoughtful thing where the nerves and the pressure and

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty thousand people and this is for the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>or this is for my team, or this is for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the World championship, and this could be the last

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<v Speaker 2>pitch if I get this guy Tony Phillips out and

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<v Speaker 2>you start almost crying, and you think about little boy

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<v Speaker 2>things and they tell you to enjoy it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't enjoy it. I had to go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>focus and respond to the situation. So I hope he

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<v Speaker 2>has a great response to the chasing of the record.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I'm so present tense. I am so present

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<v Speaker 2>tense that to think of the past and how it

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<v Speaker 2>might affect my future, it already has and so I

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<v Speaker 2>am not going to wish Ill Will on somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to have a life changing moment, a

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<v Speaker 2>life changing headline, and then see what it happens for

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<v Speaker 2>him with that. I think the most important part of

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight and that string you talked about is that

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<v Speaker 2>it continued into the playoffs and the World Series, and

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<v Speaker 2>winning the MVP in the NLCS, winning the MVP in

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series, being on the mound for the last

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<v Speaker 2>pitch of the World Series, doing the Disney commercial, and

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<v Speaker 2>having those memories with all my teammates. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing a lot of things. As we continue on,

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<v Speaker 2>those trophies will get dust, they'll get rusty, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the relationships will last forever. So I want to respond

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<v Speaker 2>to this, not react to it now. I can't can't

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, I have the broadcast today. I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>that the same feelings are for my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to say I am responding and thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and I am not gonna I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to put ill will onto somebody or root against him

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<v Speaker 2>that has a chance to have a life changing moment.

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<v Speaker 3>For the transparency of the audience. We are recording this

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<v Speaker 3>before Christopher Sanchez's most recent start, which I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>starting for the Phils on Tuesday, So there's behind the

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<v Speaker 3>scenes there. But Bulldog, you're talking about the past and

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<v Speaker 3>how it could relate.

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<v Speaker 4>To the future future for everybody. I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>The CBA negotiations of course in ninety four. Yeah, putting

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<v Speaker 3>you on the spot here, and of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>don't upset the organization.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want to cut off your paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'll just sign a new deal too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know we love that congrat Yeah, that's an important

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<v Speaker 3>one there.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get back to me.

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<v Speaker 3>How long, how long we still got a bulldog in

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<v Speaker 3>our life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we signed a three year deal with another option,

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<v Speaker 2>so we might be here till I'm ancient. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven. So we're signed till seventy one.

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<v Speaker 5>Congrat breaking news, breaking news on doctor territory, congratulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting five stars. You know, you know we'll still be

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for.

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<v Speaker 3>Your So did he mash that thumbs up button for

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<v Speaker 3>the bulldog there? And having him around? And maybe he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to get back into podcasting with Joe Davis, But

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a lot of work. You guys do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good work. It's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 4>Was Itkjuski? Did he get did he get lazy? On

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<v Speaker 4>you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Nouy is the man, doctor Krajewski. His nickname for me

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<v Speaker 2>is oral Intelligence because he hands me a five card

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<v Speaker 2>and I look smart. I love one of the best.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Richard as I call him. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it annoys him, but I love calling him Richard.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So ce b. Nineteen ninety four. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the season is cut short because there's talk of a

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<v Speaker 3>salary cap. Now we're hearing salary cap back in the ethos,

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<v Speaker 3>back in the lexicon. Here, you don't necessarily need to

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<v Speaker 3>speak so much about this now, But as a former

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<v Speaker 3>professional baseball player, what would a salary cap do to

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<v Speaker 3>the player's side of it. Obviously the owners want a

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<v Speaker 3>reason to not spend money, but how bad could this

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<v Speaker 3>be for baseball or for players?

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<v Speaker 2>A lead off that I'm proud to be an American.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in the free market system. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of what goes on is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>protect the health of the sport. And I think ownership

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<v Speaker 2>tries to protect the health of the sport. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think players are always looking for freedom. And those two

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<v Speaker 2>equations don't always match up. Because there's the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>the fans, the heart of the cities, the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>we developed a player, we'd love to keep him, that

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<v Speaker 2>we've invested in, players, we'd love to keep them. And

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<v Speaker 2>players are like you know, as I grow and as

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<v Speaker 2>I earn and as I get better, I want the

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<v Speaker 2>freedom to have the highest bidder for me. And that

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<v Speaker 2>does not exist because you have to earn that with

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<v Speaker 2>free agency. But it does exist a little bit with arbitration,

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<v Speaker 2>it does exist a little bit with minimum salaries. And

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<v Speaker 2>then then there are other perks around that, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>which are really off the chart as far as human

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<v Speaker 2>comforts is whether it's you know, the Dodgers in their

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<v Speaker 2>playing or the locker room, the way it's built, and

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<v Speaker 2>other expenses that you know, it's fantastic to play in

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<v Speaker 2>the big leagues. So the CBA is a very tough,

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<v Speaker 2>tough year. It's a sad year for I think everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>from players to owners to fans, and hopefully it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that we can get to the pressure points early enough

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<v Speaker 2>that baseball is not taken off the board. We usually

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<v Speaker 2>see that both sides start from very far off tangents

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<v Speaker 2>and then both sides work theirselves to what is the

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<v Speaker 2>middle where we have no idea where the middle is,

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<v Speaker 2>and usually it is the players that are giving in

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<v Speaker 2>because we can see how the needle has moved through

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<v Speaker 2>the years. I think early on when the union was formed,

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<v Speaker 2>it was looking like the players were winning because they

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<v Speaker 2>were gaining back something as far as freedom, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as a retirement fund, as far as a portion of

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<v Speaker 2>the national TV package. But the revenues now are so

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<v Speaker 2>great and are so complicated, and the needle has moved

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<v Speaker 2>so far is into a king's ransom salaries and perks

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<v Speaker 2>for the players that it seems like the players are

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<v Speaker 2>always giving something up and that okay, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing for the players where their fight is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be is protecting all the different generations of players,

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<v Speaker 2>from even the minders to the early big leaguers, to

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<v Speaker 2>the rookies, to the to the guys eligible for arbitration,

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<v Speaker 2>to then when you qualify for free agency, and then

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<v Speaker 2>how much money you can make once you get into

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<v Speaker 2>those equations. And so it's a very hard, complicated equation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, hopefully for me as a broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>as an ex player, as an ex Union rep, as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a rookie that made it as a minor

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<v Speaker 2>leaguer for four and a half years, as playing the

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<v Speaker 2>Dominican Republic in Venezuela Arizona Instructional League, go into all

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<v Speaker 2>those spring trainings, you know, put all that work in.

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<v Speaker 2>It turned out to be a wonderful life. But this

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<v Speaker 2>CBN is the kind of thing that you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a tough, tough time or all.

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<v Speaker 5>The other day at Chase Fielder, we're having a conversation

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<v Speaker 5>pre game about mister Justin Robleski, and I think his

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<v Speaker 5>approach to pitching is the perfect blend of that old

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<v Speaker 5>school mentality and really being open minded to the analytics

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<v Speaker 5>side of the game. What do you see from Robleski

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<v Speaker 5>that reminds you, maybe even a little bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>My fastball moved a lot more, but he is very

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<v Speaker 2>much into fastball command. I did want to throw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball inside and outside, but my primary motive was to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure it moved first, because I know late movement

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<v Speaker 2>is the number one tool, because we know a knuckleball works.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has decided that I am going to pound

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<v Speaker 2>the zone and watch Clayton Kershaw at the tail end

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<v Speaker 2>of his career when Rableski was up and saw a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that had less stuff than him but was having

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<v Speaker 2>a much lower er than him, was having much more

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<v Speaker 2>success than him, And he's like, so it's not about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What is Clayton doing that his making him succeed? And

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<v Speaker 2>what it is is he controlled the count, he controlled

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<v Speaker 2>the batters. He didn't back down when all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden there was things melting down around him with men

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<v Speaker 2>on base, Clayton continued to attack, and he attacked mainly

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<v Speaker 2>with two pitches, his fastball and his slider. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there was the curveball from heaven, but the curveball from

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<v Speaker 2>heaven even his last three four years was not there.

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<v Speaker 2>He used it more as an off speed pitch. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing Clayton had to do is he had to

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<v Speaker 2>make adjustments and start throwing to the arm side instead

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<v Speaker 2>of the glove side, and he threw there more often.

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<v Speaker 2>He even tried to develop a changeup. So Rableski, what

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<v Speaker 2>he has done is he's realized and I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the pitchers need to realize this. There are

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<v Speaker 2>so many different equations for success. Other than measuring your

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<v Speaker 2>velocity and your spin rate. It really does come down

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<v Speaker 2>to movement and execution. And if you can make the

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<v Speaker 2>ball move at seventy miles an hour or you can

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<v Speaker 2>locate at one hundred miles an hour, the equation is

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<v Speaker 2>right there in front of you. And so I love

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<v Speaker 2>it when all of a sudden, the light bulb goes

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<v Speaker 2>on for somebody and they start to pitch. And pitching

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<v Speaker 2>is about counts. It's about getting outs, it's about getting

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<v Speaker 2>quick outs. It's about finding a swing and miss when

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<v Speaker 2>you need it and only you need it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite quotes from our little conversation there

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona was the fact that you said, let me

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<v Speaker 2>think at sixty seven I almost blanked on it. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't get any reward for a swing and missed than

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<v Speaker 2>when the count is zero to one. It doesn't strike

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<v Speaker 2>a guy out. It just is a strike. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would rather in my day, if there's a man on second,

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<v Speaker 2>no out, I don't want the guy moved over to third.

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<v Speaker 2>I might think about finding a way to get a strikeout,

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<v Speaker 2>not getting the ball put in play man on third

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<v Speaker 2>less than two outs, definitely maybe going to think about

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<v Speaker 2>a strikeout. But if the scoreboard says six nothing my lead,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going to risk a crooked number for

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<v Speaker 2>the team to come back just to try and save

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<v Speaker 2>my ear. I'm going to trade it out for a run.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's starting to understand that whole winning equation,

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<v Speaker 2>not only about the batter, but the scoreboard, the situation

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<v Speaker 2>where the wind's blowing, all the different things of my

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<v Speaker 2>on artificial turf, am I on grass? Do I want

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<v Speaker 2>the out to the left side to the right side.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many parts of pitching that are about winning,

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<v Speaker 2>not about spin rate and velocity.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I could listen to you talk about pitching forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned so much from you. I learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>from Pedro Martinez is just an encyclopedia of knowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>it actually not to say that you're done it down,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have a way of explaining things that's just

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<v Speaker 1>really poetic. I want to talk about Dave roberts maturity.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking a little bit about Rableski's maturity and his development.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Roberts or you and I were there when he

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<v Speaker 1>was introduced to the organization. I want to say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is back in twenty sixteen, and you know he has

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<v Speaker 1>just taken this team to new heights, but he's also

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<v Speaker 1>had to mature as a manager. What have you noticed

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<v Speaker 1>about Doc's development?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I think some of his development people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to think. I think the description that made it look

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<v Speaker 2>like he wasn't ready was the public description was people

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<v Speaker 2>that got lazy and just said, well, he's new and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where he came from, and this is what

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to do, and this is how strong the

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<v Speaker 2>ownership is, and this is how strong the front office is.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dave Roberts is just a puppet, and that pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much at the beginning was the whole thing, and that

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<v Speaker 2>got sutantiated a little bit because they didn't go very

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<v Speaker 2>far in the playoffs with an unbelievable roster, and so

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<v Speaker 2>some of the maturity and some of the growth as

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<v Speaker 2>a manager is reacting to negative things in the press.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to talk to him three and four times

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<v Speaker 2>a day, and then the fan reactions on talk radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and then how we're you going to turn that around

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that that doesn't infiltrate your roster. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think Dave's maturity is really just the growth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not something like, oh he was lacking. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>stress and the losing early on and the outside influences

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<v Speaker 2>of the media and different people. I think it exposed

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<v Speaker 2>great character. I think exposed amazing character, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's always been there. And then as the stature grew

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<v Speaker 2>and he showed he could handle it, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative changed, and the narrative has changed to who

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Roberts really is now. People grow and change and

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<v Speaker 2>he has for sure, and it's in confidence in how

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<v Speaker 2>he introduces the team in spring training, on how he

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<v Speaker 2>sets goals, how he verbalized the goals. Now, like if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't win a World championship, you know what, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lost season. It's not what we're out here

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<v Speaker 2>for so he's able to be confidently out there right

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<v Speaker 2>at the very beginning of a season, right for the

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<v Speaker 2>repeats and the tree peats and all of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>who knows how long it's going to go on. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've always told him in our text messages and our

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<v Speaker 2>face to face phone calls and whenever we talk, that

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to play for him. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have ran through a wall for him like I did

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<v Speaker 2>for tomlessword, I would give up my body for him

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<v Speaker 2>and just say, let's go win the game. Who cares

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<v Speaker 2>about tomorrow? Because he loves his players so much. He

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<v Speaker 2>cares about their careers. He looks at everyone individually, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he starts out with, you know, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable being uncomfortable, but let's do it in your own style,

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<v Speaker 2>in your own way. And he has been been an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing friend and an amazing manager.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the people who like to complain, of which they

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<v Speaker 3>have quieted down, but the people like to him playing

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:01.959
<v Speaker 3>over fire. Dave roberts, it's like, find a better person

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<v Speaker 3>to to manage all of the personalities, all of the

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 3>people who drive nice cars. As Mookie would say, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a tough gig and he is only getting better with age,

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<v Speaker 3>like wine like red stitch wine. Shameless plug there for

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<v Speaker 3>for doc another guy I want to talk about. I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned Mooki there. It's been a little bit of a struggle,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a slog for.

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<v Speaker 4>Him this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Less about the mechanics side and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Just mentally, can you think back to moments in your

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<v Speaker 3>career where you have kind of felt yourself struggling and

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<v Speaker 3>lost at sea?

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<v Speaker 4>What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you get yourself mentally back on track? Because

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<v Speaker 3>we saw him check out last year and that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of worked for him after you know, his wife says,

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, be yourself. How do you how did

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<v Speaker 3>how did the bulldog get himself mentally back on track?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think it would be hard to uh to

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<v Speaker 2>compare us because an everyday player has to get up

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<v Speaker 2>the next day and do it right away, where a

0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 2>starting pitcher you've got four days or so to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of regroup and talk with the team psychologists, talk with

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<v Speaker 2>your wife, You go out to dinner, relax, try and

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<v Speaker 2>get away from the game, play with your kids, play golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyday player you immediately have to get right back out there,

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<v Speaker 2>so any therapy that I was doing when I was

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<v Speaker 2>bad mentally, I had a lot of time where an

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 2>everyday player they have to speed up that clock in

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<v Speaker 2>a hurry, whether it is how do I get to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep tonight because I can't because I'm depressed and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grinding on everything. But I need my rest aspire a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of control, and it's going to lead injuries or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just it's just really hard for an everyday player,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of my friends everyday players, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Mike's Socio hit four hundred every April and

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<v Speaker 2>then by the end of the year he was hitting

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<v Speaker 2>two forty because just the grind of being a catcher

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<v Speaker 2>and then carrying a pitching staff for Muki, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Mooki has matured in a big way of dealing with this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he was the guy in Boston, he was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy in LA and now he understands he has

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<v Speaker 2>a role with this team and he will be a

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<v Speaker 2>the guy on certain nights in certain series and possibly

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<v Speaker 2>an MVP of a National Championship series or a World series,

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<v Speaker 2>and that could happen. But there's a role now on

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<v Speaker 2>this team, and I think he's I think he's embracing it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's helping him relax and deal with

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<v Speaker 2>ophers a little bit better and deal with looking up

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<v Speaker 2>there with a two hundred batting average. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>can just say, you know what, every day. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that he turned the corner last year was

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<v Speaker 2>with I'm going to come out every day. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at my numbers. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>look at how I feel. I'm going to do something

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<v Speaker 2>today to help this team win, and to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself and into the team. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big step.

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<v Speaker 5>Oral, I want to hit on maybe a bigger picture

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<v Speaker 5>baseball question because I'm a baseball traditionalist and I believe

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<v Speaker 5>in the value of stats that we've used to evaluate

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<v Speaker 5>the game throughout its history. Not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>agree with me, though. It's the Cardinal way, thank you

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<v Speaker 5>very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though we're tell you on your side now right.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll have to teach me the dodge your way. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm willing to make the adjustment, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to pitcher wins, we as an industry just don't value

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 5>them the same as we used to do. You still

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<v Speaker 5>see the value in a starting pitcher win.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean you've heard me talk in this interview

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<v Speaker 2>and you can tell that I don't think about baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>So so the win to me is still very important.

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<v Speaker 2>The eer is still very important. I loved lately that

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Roberts said something about I don't mind a bad swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Where it's a blue pit, it's called a hit, and

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<v Speaker 2>he gave himself a chance. It's not a swing and miss, strikeout,

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<v Speaker 2>come back to the bench. I think that I still

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<v Speaker 2>value who's up next and what my pitch selection should

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<v Speaker 2>be because of who's up next. I still value there's

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<v Speaker 2>a base open. I still value strike one. I still

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<v Speaker 2>think the most important pitch is the one to one

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<v Speaker 2>pitch because it can go to one, two or two

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<v Speaker 2>to one. So yes, the W I think is still important.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to what we talked about with Robleski, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if the score is three to one and there's two

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<v Speaker 2>outs in the seventh and there's a tying run or tying

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<v Speaker 2>run at the plate, my number one job is to

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<v Speaker 2>not let him hit a home run. My other number

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<v Speaker 2>one job is to know who's in the bullpen and

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<v Speaker 2>who's fresh, and who could come in behind me. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's the next guy. Does he strike out a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there's so much about pitch selection and where

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<v Speaker 2>you put it. This is black and a ball, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not missing over the middle. This is I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to knock this guy down a little bit. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can risk that I'm going to hit him, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay if he ends up standing at first base, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to give me a better chance to get

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<v Speaker 2>him out away. And I want to get him out

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<v Speaker 2>away because the wind's blowing out to the pull side,

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<v Speaker 2>so I want him to have to hit the ball

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite field. I mean, that stuff all comes into

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<v Speaker 2>w's now. I understand we can break it down where

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<v Speaker 2>it's no big deal, but I also understand in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the game and the stats and everything

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<v Speaker 2>around it in that moment, that moment is so much

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<v Speaker 2>more special than all the stats that tell me exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what to do, compared to what I see, what I feel,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I have as far as the current data,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to let you go at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have to wrap up our show, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to wrap it up without talking about what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You continue to reinvent yourself. You and Dana have created

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<v Speaker 1>such an amazing life for you guys, and for your

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<v Speaker 1>kids and all of the things. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen you smile more than at the open

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<v Speaker 1>house for Oral Herscheizer, Chevrolet and Sino. Tell me more

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<v Speaker 1>about how this came about. Was it Chino?

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you? I can't remember, Gino, California. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I have a life triangle all on it. I

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>have this triangle because we live in Pasadena, and I

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>drive out the Chino to the dealership. It's about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes and I stay there from about nine in

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the morning until about two in the afternoon, and I

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>take the hour drive from Chino into Dodger Stadium and

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I announced the game and I get home and I

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have this whole triangle. We also have that at our ship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We you know, got into the car business by way

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<v Speaker 2>of a commercial being asked to endorse for Tolo Chevrolet

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<v Speaker 2>and fell in love with it. The great thing about

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the car business is it has a bad reputation at times,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can bring in a better reputation and say

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to stand behind our word. We're gonna have integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I love about it is I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anybody buy a new car and not be smiling. And

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>it's so it's like a football game. You come to

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the game, you're smiling. You leave the game, hopefully you're smiling.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Your team won. You leave a car dealership you've won,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're driving your new car, and you're getting to

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<v Speaker 2>go to grandma's house and you're getting to go travel

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to work, and you're getting to go to the kids'

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>soccer games and you're doing all this and that new

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>car smell and everybody's having fun. And so we can

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<v Speaker 2>stand behind my word. I have a reputation of being

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<v Speaker 2>an okay guy, and so people come in and know

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to get it on a shake, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a lot of fun to I start

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>a tradition there. On Sundays when I'm home, I go

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<v Speaker 2>to one of the flower guys under the bridges and

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I buy them all of their flowers. I buy twenty

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>five books and I take them to the dealership and

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>any female that comes in, I feel like it's the

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<v Speaker 2>female that's going to make the decision if or cars

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>for the female. So I'm like, I am given every

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>lady that walks in a bouquet and put them in

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>a good mood. And if they're in a good mood,

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we got a chance. And our car we went from

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<v Speaker 2>like two to three cars to like seven or nine.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Look at that. Now they got flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the charm of fifty five. It's all right, what's

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>coming up at Legends Attic? What do you got going

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<v Speaker 1>on there before we say goodbye?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we always have appearances and things. I think we've

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>got Chris Taylor coming out after he announced his retirement.

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<v Speaker 2>We've always had, you know, the list as goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just love Legends Attic because we make it

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<v Speaker 2>memorable to buy memorabilia and so the is gorgeous. We're

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>now in three locations. We're going to open up another one.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>We're probably gonna have a free standing building up ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand feet soon, in about another six months or so.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just love making it memorable that people

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>are coming from memorabilia, whether it's cards, jerseys, helmets, whatever

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>it is artwork. That's the fun part. That's the fun

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>part of that too. And it's all smiles and people

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>say to us, you know, we can't believe that you

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>don't charge an admission. I'm like, it's not about the admission,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It's about you coming in here, having a great time,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and if you buy something that's fantastic or I'm proud

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of you.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Always have been an ambassador of the game, an ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>of the Los Angeles Dodgers, and every single bit of

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this was earned, nothing was given to you. Thank you

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>so much for taking the time. We appreciate it and

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we look forward to talking to you again soon.

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Bulldog, you're my original friend in this crew, but these

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>other two are becoming my friends now. And you know, Katie,

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>she's got her ways of becoming friends. It's not it's

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>not even you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gathering you don't have a choice.

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't have a choice to have on the Dodger beat.

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>She is changing the whole beat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't doubt that.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I hope it's a good big we'll figure we'll figure

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 5>it out.

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>He's quite the addition to Dodgers territory as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, give my love to Dana. Thanks for being

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<v Speaker 1>with this, Bulldog.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you you guys, take care