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Speaker 1: What is up? What's going on? Y'all?

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Speaker 2: This is the Beatdown Podcast. Welcome in week eighteen edition.

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays to everyone, Marry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah.

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Speaker 1: We obviously took a week off to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: And while we were gone, the Commanders secured a playoff

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Speaker 2: birth with an overtime, thrilling, overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy, obviously.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the best seasons of my career here

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Speaker 2: in six seasons with the Washington Commanders Slash Redskins, last

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Speaker 2: Washington football team, and I'm super pumped that we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be playing for at least one more week. Despite all

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Speaker 2: the hard palpitations that they gave me against the Eagles

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Speaker 2: and the Falcons, it was definitely all worth it to

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Speaker 2: see Jade and Daniels do some Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 2: caliber stuff. That was really the firing force that ended

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Speaker 2: up getting them wins over the Eagles and the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: But this week they do have the chance to lock

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Speaker 2: up the sixth seed with a win over the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: who beat them earlier this year in November. They really

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Speaker 2: cannot get out to a hot start there. They did

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Speaker 2: come out, come back late in that matchup. But as

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Speaker 2: we all know that within the last thirty seconds they

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Speaker 2: are about fifty billion touchdowns scored, including a ninety nine

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Speaker 2: yard touchdown on the kickoff and then des by Terry

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Speaker 2: McLaurin getting the go ahead touchdown with about twenty seconds left.

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Speaker 2: Austin Cier misses the extra point, the Cowboy's still still

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Speaker 2: up twenty to twenty seven, and then obviously all the

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Speaker 2: antics ensued after that.

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a good matchup between these

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Speaker 1: two teams.

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Speaker 2: We don't exactly who's been playing a quarterback, We don't

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Speaker 2: know exactly how intense the Cowboys are going to be

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Speaker 2: intent on winning this game. Either way, this will be

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Speaker 2: a chance for the Commanders to get their twelfth win

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Speaker 2: of the season, which would be the first time.

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Speaker 1: This is nineteen ninety one. And how are they going

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Speaker 1: to do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that is what we're going to be discussing today.

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Speaker 3: With me.

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Speaker 2: We have Alex Flohm from DCU and dc News Now

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Speaker 2: and Eithan Gdo covers the commands for Monumental Sports too.

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Speaker 2: Maryland are well to say, including me, three Maryland grads here, guys,

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Speaker 2: how are we doing.

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Speaker 3: Doing great man, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty good and good to good to be always

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Speaker 4: good to be on with terps.

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Speaker 2: Right we should we should be on the Maryland basketball.

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Speaker 2: I have Maryland Pride. Now I've been may show up

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Speaker 2: doing their home games. But uh yeah, really really glad

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Speaker 2: to be discussing this game with you guys and everyone

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Speaker 2: else you know listening.

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Speaker 1: They know the deal.

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Speaker 2: Here I would be asking these guys three questions on

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Speaker 2: an offense, on a defense, more of a general question

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Speaker 2: here were doing a little bit different than third question

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Speaker 2: because obviously, as everyone knows by now, we have the

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl selections out in Terry McLaurin and Jade Daniels,

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Speaker 2: we're both selected with a bunch of other alternates there.

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Speaker 2: We'll wet to dive into that a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: Uh that there will be points giving out at the

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Speaker 2: end of each round. There will be a winner, and

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Speaker 2: I will get to the side because it's my podcast. As

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Speaker 2: I will say, I get to do whatever I want

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Speaker 2: and I get the heavy burden of deciding the victor.

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Speaker 2: But as always, if you be more focused on what

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Speaker 2: these guys have to say and they're takes, on their

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Speaker 1: Of the show.

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Speaker 2: And with that being said, let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 2: And I think we have to discuss who's gonna be

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Speaker 2: we don't really know right now. You know, Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: not really there yet on who's going to be playing.

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Speaker 2: Could be Trey Lance, could be Cooper Rush, could be

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Speaker 2: you know whoever it is. And Trey Lance even said, look,

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Speaker 2: you here, and what should the Commanders expect from trail Lance?

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Speaker 4: Well it's funny with him coming up here potentially because

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Speaker 4: The Manders were the ones who weren't really playing promunch

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Speaker 4: Flipped around situation. But actually, you know, I used to

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Speaker 4: So I have seen in some coverage what Trey Lance

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Speaker 4: So it's got to be in there somewhere for him.

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Speaker 4: So I think that Commanders secondary, which at points has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at his his status at North

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Speaker 2: Everyone was you know, going crazy over twenty nineteen had

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Speaker 2: you haven't really seen much of that.

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Speaker 1: For for several reasons.

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Speaker 2: Right, They the fort Niners took him for you know,

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Speaker 2: you expecting to see out of Trey Lance? Because again,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's the age old question, right,

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Speaker 5: I Mean, the calendar just shifted over to twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing with Trey Lance. He really hasn't had

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Speaker 5: a long leash to prove why. He was the number

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Speaker 3: Pick back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: The one year with San Francisco where he was his

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Speaker 3: A few weeks later and that was all she wrote.

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Speaker 5: I think the dual threat and mobility running with the

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Speaker 3: They've had some success.

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Speaker 5: I mean earlier this year, Kyler Murray didn't do too

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Speaker 5: out with the concussion against Washington. I would say Lance's

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Speaker 5: We've seen some accuracy issues. We've seen just inability to

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's a real true sample size to

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Speaker 3: He's barely played in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: He's been in the league for five years now and

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Speaker 5: has played in seventeen games, just eleven starts. I think

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Speaker 5: the unknown is just as scary as the known, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I really am too, because I do

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Speaker 2: Have no idea what he can be as an NFL prospect,

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Speaker 2: he's been a long term project that I would, just

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Speaker 2: We'll focus on the unknown factor of it here, because

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't enough to get them in the game.

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Speaker 2: And he does it does enough with stretching the field

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Speaker 2: back to you, like, I mean, how going just touching

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the good thing first off, in the

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Speaker 4: you know, he came in after injury, so the Commanders

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Speaker 4: didn't exactly expect to be facing him that day. I

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Speaker 4: looked at more tape on Trey Lance. But it is

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Speaker 4: tough when you don't have that sample size. But like

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Speaker 4: I said, I'll go back to the point I made before.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you're going up against Jayden Daniels, who's

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Speaker 4: you know, they're not going to underestimate any opponent, any quarterback,

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Speaker 4: no matter how little they've played in the NFL or

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Speaker 4: Jaden's been making plays with his legs all season.

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Speaker 3: Jayden can make deep throws. You know, Jayden's accuracy most.

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Speaker 4: Of the time has been very on point. So the

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Speaker 2: True, and to that point has turned to the like

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Speaker 1: So far this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think establishing the run early and consistently is

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Speaker 1: You certainly hope so.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the team did did get one hundred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I think I'm you're gonna expect

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm really curious about the running game specifically,

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Speaker 2: So Ethan, since you brought it up first, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if there is an easy fix, I

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Speaker 5: And honestly, if they did that, I wouldn't necessarily blame them.

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Speaker 4: that running game because we know be Rob's skills set.

439
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Speaker 4: You know, talk about how Chris Rodriguez and Jeremy McNichols

440
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 4: have been able to make nice plays as well, but

441
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Speaker 4: Austin really brings that aspect of the passing game and

442
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Speaker 4: that speed on the offensive side of the ball. You know,

443
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Speaker 4: there's been a lot of plays, probably several this year,

444
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Speaker 4: where they dumped it off to him or handed it

445
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Speaker 4: off to him, breaks off for twenty thirty yards and

446
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you picked up a huge chunk downfield.

447
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Speaker 4: So I think it would be massive if you get

448
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Speaker 4: Austin Eckler back in there, just as a whole other

449
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Speaker 4: dynamic to the offense. But again, you know, I'm also

450
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Speaker 4: looking at the offensive line and the health situation there.

451
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Speaker 4: You know, I brought up the Tennessee game before, and

452
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Speaker 4: I think if you look at the tape, that was

453
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Speaker 4: probably the Commander's best game in terms of run blocking.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they were opening lanes and winning just about

455
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Speaker 4: every matchup in that one. And that game, Cornelius Lucas

456
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Speaker 4: started at right tackle. It obviously Tyler Biatis was that

457
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Speaker 4: out there on the field. So both of them dealing

458
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Speaker 4: with injuries as well, So I think that's another thing

459
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Speaker 4: that's going to be key, you know, and also Andrew Wiley,

460
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Speaker 4: you know, to have that rotation in there on the

461
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Speaker 4: offensive line. So I think the offensive line needs to

462
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Speaker 4: get healthy. And the good thing is they have this

463
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Speaker 4: week before the playoffs to kind of do that, and

464
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Speaker 4: ideally they get the offensive line back to full strength

465
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Speaker 4: and Austin Eckler back on the field and they'll be

466
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Speaker 4: ready to do it for that but like they said

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Speaker 4: Dallas first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, absolutely right, and and I think Eckler's

469
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Speaker 2: value just comes so because the shiftingness is I think

470
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Speaker 2: I think he's one of the best parts of his

471
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Speaker 2: skill set. And you know, it was funny whenever I

472
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Speaker 2: was when Eckler first signed with this, I was really

473
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Speaker 2: excited and in my roommate was like, why are you

474
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Speaker 2: so excited about Austin Eckler being on this offense? And

475
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Speaker 2: you see, like you know, the fleet flicker screen that

476
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Speaker 2: they had against Baltimore, you see some of these other

477
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Speaker 2: plays that he's had, And that's exactly why, because he

478
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Speaker 2: adds like this this unpredictability to it to to this

479
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Speaker 2: offense that I think it is really really benefited from.

480
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Speaker 2: And I hope he gets to come back, whether this

481
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Speaker 2: week or next week, we'll see. Seems to be on

482
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Speaker 2: the right track with again, with concussions, he never really

483
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Speaker 2: know for sure. So final question before we move on

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Speaker 2: or update. You guys are still tied, So we'll come

485
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Speaker 2: down to this last case we're gonna make here, and

486
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Speaker 2: it has to do with the Pro Bowl. So we

487
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Speaker 2: had commanded to have two Pro Bowlers for sure as

488
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Speaker 2: primary players. We have Jay Daniels, Terry McLaurin, both of

489
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Speaker 2: which who are having extremely successful years. Terry on his

490
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: way to having a career year. Jade and Daniels put together,

491
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Speaker 2: quietly one of the best rookie performances we've seen, maybe ever,

492
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Speaker 2: you know, at least in this franchise history, maybe even

493
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Speaker 2: in the last you know, twenty years or so, in

494
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Speaker 2: terms of what he's able to do. But there are

495
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Speaker 2: a lot of other players who are listed as alternates

496
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Speaker 2: on the Commander's roster that did not get the primary votes.

497
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Speaker 2: Here we have Bobby Wagner, Tyler aut Nick Bloor, Talabiatic,

498
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Speaker 2: Luvu Tresway, Austin Eckler, Dante Fowler, Jeremy Reeves, Jeremy Chen

499
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Speaker 2: and Zach Ertz. All these guys are alternates at varying degrees.

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Speaker 1: So Alex, we'll start with.

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Speaker 2: You here, and I want you to make the best

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Speaker 2: case for which player deserves to be in the Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl of the of this list of alternates.

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Speaker 3: So I have two if that's allowed.

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Speaker 1: If that's allowed the judges, the judges have conferred, and

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: So allowed, it is allowed. Okay.

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Speaker 4: On offense, I'm going Tyler Piatt. If we're just talking

509
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Speaker 4: about him in the anchor in the middle of that line.

510
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Speaker 4: You know, the offensive line has been much improved this season.

511
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Speaker 4: He's been good in.

512
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Speaker 3: The run blocking. He's been a.

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Speaker 4: Rock for Jade and Daniels in the passing game right

514
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 4: in front of him. You've just noticed the difference when

515
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Speaker 4: Tyler Biadish is not on the field, the offense takes

516
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: a huge step back when he is out there. Obviously

517
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: been more like a well oiled machine. So I think

518
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Speaker 4: he's for sure a pro bowler. And then Frankie Luvu

519
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 4: from the gate, right out of the gate start of

520
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Speaker 4: the season, he was all over the field if you

521
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Speaker 4: heard his name everywhere. It's been like that most of

522
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Speaker 4: the season. He's found a great home here with the Commanders.

523
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Speaker 4: So I think he's incredibly deserving to be a pro

524
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Speaker 4: bowler as well.

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Speaker 2: Both guys have serious reverberating effects on both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 1: They are just beyond it.

528
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: Has been such a key piece for Jaden Louve obviously

529
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: has been a stud in so many different ways, having

530
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Speaker 2: a career as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: All right, ethan same.

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Speaker 2: Question, and since Alex get have two, you can also

533
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Speaker 2: have two as well.

534
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Speaker 5: Well, with Alex having two, he took mine on the second.

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Speaker 5: Frankie Louhu, I'll just touch on that again. I don't

536
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Speaker 5: want to steal your answer, but the fact that he

537
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Speaker 5: didn't make it. He's been there everywhere for the Commander's defense.

538
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: He should one thousand percent be a pro bowler. But

539
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Speaker 5: I'll go on the.

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Speaker 3: Defensive defensive side to start or continue.

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Speaker 5: I guess Bobby Wagner another one hundred tackle season, just quietly.

542
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Speaker 5: I think his thirteenth one hundred tackle season, tying London Fletcher.

543
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Speaker 5: We saw that earlier this year. He is the rock

544
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Speaker 5: of this defense. And entering the year, when Bobby Wagner

545
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Speaker 5: signed here, everyone was like, oh, I mean, he's been

546
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Speaker 5: playing in the league for ten plus years, won a

547
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl, been All Pro Pro bowler almost every single year.

548
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Speaker 3: Why would he come to Washington. He should be ring chasing.

549
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Speaker 5: So to say, well, he comes here, this defense turns

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Speaker 5: around for week one to the end, and a lot

551
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Speaker 5: of it is him, his leadership, his ability. He's still

552
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Speaker 5: playing at an elite level even in his early thirties.

553
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Speaker 5: I think there's no reason he shouldn't be a Pro

554
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Speaker 5: bowler alongside Franklin Lulu. Those two have, in my opinion,

555
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 5: turned this defense around completely from what we saw at

556
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Speaker 5: the beginning of the year, but also what we.

557
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Speaker 3: Saw in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: And if you give me another one, I'll take another one,

559
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Speaker 5: mister proposal.

560
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Speaker 3: Jeremy Reeves, I think he should absolutely be a Pro

561
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Speaker 3: Bowler special teamer.

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Speaker 5: Ever since twenty twenty two, when he actually was a

563
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Speaker 5: Pro Bowler and All Pro, he's really just taken that

564
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Speaker 5: role in stride and done everything he could to be

565
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Speaker 5: the best Pro Bowl gunner he could be.

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Speaker 3: And last year, obviously he is the ACL.

567
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Speaker 5: He misses most of the year, he comes back this

568
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 5: year returns to the top of his game, one of

569
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Speaker 5: the best at his position in the league, if not better.

570
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Speaker 5: Every single time there's a punt return, he seems to

571
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Speaker 5: be the one making the tackle then going to hype

572
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: up the crowd at Northwest Stadium. I think he absolutely

573
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Speaker 5: deserves another trip to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: All Pro Revo.

575
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Speaker 2: I've been given that name for a reason, and I think,

576
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: you know, him proposing to his to his girlfriend at

577
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: the end of that Falcons game is just such a great,

578
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, way to end that that crazy night.

579
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Speaker 1: You know, the work we're all up till about.

580
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: One in the morning, and you know he's out here

581
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: just you know, creating an even better moment for himself.

582
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: He'll obviously never forget for a variety of reasons. Final

583
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: decision here, this one was super tough. I feel like, uh,

584
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: you know, we've become the Frankly the Frankie Loebu podcast recently.

585
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: I feel like he's been brought up a few times

586
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: of the last month or so, and deservedly so. Also

587
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: with Hallibiatita. I think he's again his effects on the

588
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: offensive line.

589
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: He is clearly the leader.

590
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 2: I Meank calls him badass because he is a badass

591
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: and what he's able to call out the defense and

592
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: help Jayden out. With that being said, man I cannot

593
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: argue with the Hall of Famer and Bobby Wadner's influence

594
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: on this d this team, his relationship with Jade, and

595
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: his relationship with everybody on that on that team, he

596
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: is a mentor to all these different guys. Uh so

597
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: ethan first time on the podcast, First victory, Do you

598
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: have any parting words for us before we hit our

599
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Speaker 2: way out of here.

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Speaker 3: That's a one hell of a streak right there.

601
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Speaker 5: I'll have to come defend my crown another time, but

602
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 5: no for seriously, thanks for having us.

603
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Speaker 3: This was a ton of fun. It's been a lot

604
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: of fun to cover this team this year.

605
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Speaker 5: Back on the beat, so looking forward to the Sunday

606
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Speaker 5: in Dallas and a playoff run that hopefully can go

607
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: a few weeks.

608
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I certainly hope so.

609
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: And you know who knows what the scene is gonna

610
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: be between you know now and then with their sixty

611
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: with their seven seed. Either way, this the season has

612
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: been magical for so many different reasons, and I I

613
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: really believe that Washington has a shot at beating any

614
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: team that they go up against this year just because

615
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: of their offense, where the defense has improved. They it's

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Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna be something special, I think. And

617
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Speaker 2: it's been a great start to Decuse tenure, great start

618
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: to add in Peters tenure, both of which I think

619
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Speaker 2: should be Coach and Executive of the Year candidates for

620
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: what they've been able to do to turn this team

621
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Speaker 2: around from going four and thirteen a year ago to

622
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Speaker 2: being on the cause of winning twelve wins, tripling their

623
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Speaker 2: win total in less than three hundred and sixty five days.

624
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: That just is phenomenal. But again, guys, thank you so

625
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: much for coming on. Really appreciate this has been great

626
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: talking to you guys, And like Ethan Hope with the Commanders,

627
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: will be celebrating a win with their twelve and five record,

628
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: hopefully against the Dallas Cowboys, because it's always good to

629
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Speaker 2: beat the Dallas Cowboys, no matter when it is, no

630
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Speaker 2: matter what the situation requires.

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Speaker 1: And we will be seeing you next week Trar the

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Speaker 1: Playoff Push.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Be sure to rate, review, subscribe wherever

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