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Speaker 2: The fuck up. My my, oh geez are back in

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Speaker 2: He told me. If I had a part of the

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Speaker 3: I would love to have you on that on the side. Boy,

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Speaker 3: y'all missed it both, y'all. Orlando Magic, that's right, Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 1: Great, that's right. Yeah, the word great.

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Speaker 1: Key word was. You know, it's crazy. I was in

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm happy we brought that up because when I

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Speaker 3: And Bill, you you really need no introduction. You really

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Speaker 1: No, no, well, I'm not gonna be arrogant. I was

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Speaker 1: wanting to pass up Bill uh Wilt Chamberlain in points

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Speaker 3: School all American, you need to hear these stories.

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Speaker 1: I get to the high schooled American game, being the

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Speaker 1: you can get more done. Pat was serious and always here,

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Speaker 1: Why before I got to San Antonio was in Germany

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Speaker 1: So after the thing was over, he was walking, I

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Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, Coach Brown, can you see me

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Speaker 1: He said, how long you been in the army soldier?

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You can stop sending letters. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just I got I got three years left in high school.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to join the army because this this

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Speaker 1: That's the bullshit answer, the real answer. As I went

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Speaker 1: She was twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you're so beautiful. And she's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. That that does come into play when

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Speaker 1: No, but you know what, because they sent me out

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Speaker 3: Shoot, that's what happened when you come from South Dakota

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Speaker 3: to the University of Florida. Hun Killer, that's how I got.

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Speaker 2: I can tell a story for Beta minus the dunks

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Speaker 1: Is perfect, yes, perfect, Yeah, no disrespect. But I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: When I've been in South Dakota a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: But by the way, Ud shack shacka opened up his

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Speaker 2: That was that was epic times.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing that for me too, an.

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Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, I mean talk about that obviously, the Orlando connection,

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Speaker 2: I get six I didn't get six man a year there,

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Speaker 2: I got Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: Apologize, Killer, I know you got rookie. Ye, my apologies.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you get six man? Did you share

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Speaker 3: the ship started to run together, my bad. I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I'm big on relationships. So when I first met Killer,

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: And he he showed respect. I show respect back. I

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Speaker 1: can I work out? He was a gentleman. Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: can I work on your gym with team Man? I

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Speaker 1: I'm already letting t mac in man and so he

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Speaker 1: I approach him backs like I've never been a guy. No,

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Speaker 1: But Mike has always been cool. And what you thought

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Speaker 1: So you know, I saw that he was a kid

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Speaker 1: I can imagine.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine the first time I ever went to

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Speaker 3: just let you know, anybody, Yeah, I've been back to

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Speaker 1: So you know it's crazy about then the house, I

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Speaker 1: told it. I should have kept it.

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Speaker 3: Man, that was a nice The motherfucker bed was as

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Speaker 1: I should have kept it. Oh no, I brought the

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Speaker 2: Know, big fellow. Talk to me though, real quick, because

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, Like when you made that change to go

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Speaker 1: It's about maximizing your potential. You know, we talk about

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Speaker 1: years you could renegotiate. I said, what's renegotiate me? He said,

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00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: you can get more money and then probably, you know,

432
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: my agent was brave, you know Lin ro Mondol. He said,

433
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: probably didn't It'll be worth a hundred millions. Motherfucker. What

434
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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so, I'm fuck it's forty. I'm leaning right,

435
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: So now my time is up. And hey, I done

436
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: been a scorer. You know this, And then and boom

437
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: boom pennies. There we rolling. We're the team of the future.

438
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: And then I'm the type I don't I don't really

439
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: talk much, but you hear the guys talking about they

440
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 1: want ninety, so you know what us men do If

441
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: he get ninety, I know I'm better than him. I

442
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: won one fifty, so you know, we threw the number

443
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: out there, and it wasn't working. But the advantageous thing

444
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 1: is every time we lost in Orlando, I was in La,

445
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: so I was familiar with. If I wasn't that familiar

446
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: with La, probably would have probably would have took a

447
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: little longer, or probably would have tried to do something different.

448
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: But you know, LA was a hot spot then. So

449
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: we're in the ninety six Olympics and agent calls me.

450
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm at Magic City, me and uncle Jerome. You ain't

451
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: been to Magic City? Killers, Like, yeah, that's not your thing.

452
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: It's like two thirty eight. We having a good time

453
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: eating chicken wings watching them do that. Yeah. And I

454
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: had and I had the big a dope man phone.

455
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the big block phone. Yeah. Yeah, Hey,

456
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Speaker 1: get to the hotel now. So I get to the

457
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Speaker 1: hotel now. The late Jerry west I know you and

458
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Speaker 1: Jerry are a great leadership. He was in like one

459
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: of the vasachi ros. He was smiling. Yeah, he had

460
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Speaker 1: an envelope And I had never met Jerry Weston know

461
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: he was. He said, you want the good news or

462
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: the bad news? I said, well, what's the bad news?

463
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: He said, we can't get you at one fifty but

464
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be happy with this. So I

465
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: opened up the envelope. I have never seen so many

466
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: fucking zeros in my life, and I was like, oh shit,

467
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: is this shit's real? Like I'm telling them people one

468
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: fifty and they this me. These motherfucker won't give me

469
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: one twenty. I'm signing right now because I don't believe.

470
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: In the next day, I ain't. I'm like, so I

471
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: signed no, like pity, ain't even know I signed. So

472
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: like we got to practice over that. They bombard him

473
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: with it. And that's what it was all about, maximize

474
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: my potential. So now when I get to LA, I'm

475
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: asking my guy, can we do the same thing. So

476
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: were going back and forth and then Jerry Jerry Budd says,

477
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: I need to start winning championships and then I can

478
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: do what I'll give you another extension boy in a row, right,

479
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, things go boom. Then I get to Miami

480
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: and Pat and Pat did the most gangster shit at all.

481
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: Remember when I was up for another one twenty. Yeah,

482
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: Pat came in he said, Shack, I love you. I

483
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: can give you the whole one twenty and we can

484
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: have nobody or I can give you one hundred, get

485
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: u D some more money. I can bring in Posey,

486
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: I can bring in GP, I can bring in all

487
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: them guys. And I was like, you know what, I

488
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: need to win because you know what I'm here. I'm like,

489
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: I gotta win one before old boy get one. So

490
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: fuck it. I got enough money, I got the biggest

491
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: house to do it, and that's what I did. So

492
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's not about money. It's about

493
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: maximizing your potential. If you got the ability to do more,

494
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to do more.

495
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Speaking speaking speaking of winning three peas, that's like tell

496
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: people because you know, obviously we were fortunate enough to

497
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Speaker 2: do two in a row in Miami and exhaustion, but

498
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: I was never in a situation like you where it's

499
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: physically you have to dominate games and do that thing

500
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: for three straight seasons is unbelievable. Talk about that for

501
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: a minute.

502
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 1: So why why I love this podcast because all three

503
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: of us speak the same language. We're all hard, right,

504
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: you do know there some sensitive I don't like to

505
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: be talked about it in a bad way, especially when

506
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: it's my fault. So all the times we lost, check

507
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: missed a couple of free throws he should have missed.

508
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: It's always my fault, so that just always ate me up.

509
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: You're not gonna fucking break me right. Then we get

510
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: to the finals in one year in Orlando and we

511
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: had ten days off. My leadership wasn't intacted, being d

512
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: Sky were in Atlanta, we in Miami, and in day

513
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: five we come back and we try to practice because

514
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: we had played Houston like a kam with way better

515
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: than me. But he never did what he did to

516
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: me in the finals during the regular seasons. He's like,

517
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: so I learned that when you get to that level,

518
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you gotta step it up or not. See, I didn't

519
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: know that. So we like we playing, were playing the Rockets,

520
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: we don't beat him before in that first game we

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: started rolling and then we lose and we get swept.

522
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: So now I'm saying myself, I'll ever get back to

523
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: the fucking finals again. I gotta dominate so so well,

524
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: especially if I'm not shooting shooting free throws. Well, i

525
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: gotta have such a dominant performance and it ain't gonna

526
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: even fucking matter. So now every year we leave Shack's

527
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: fault doing movies. Every year release check Folk he's doing

528
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: out boom boom boom, and then Phil comes. He said, bro,

529
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: need you put all that shit down? I did it

530
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: at my best year and we started winning. So now

531
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: after I win, I think I'm getting respect from stephen

532
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: A and Kenny and chunking all the motherfuckers. Nope, bet

533
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: you can't get another one. Now I gotta go win

534
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: another one. After you win too high? What you gotta say? Oh, well,

535
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: badging them got to a bet. You can't three peat.

536
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: Pat Rowley owns the term three people, but you can't

537
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: three pea. So now I freaking got a three peak.

538
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: And then Draymond Us had this discussion. And you guys

539
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: notice too, when you win it all the time, it's

540
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of hard to stay at that like, especially when

541
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: you win two three, it's kind of very difficult to

542
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: stay at that level. So it's just things didn't work out.

543
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: And then I ended up in Miami and then I

544
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: got challenged again, body fat down. You need to get

545
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: it down, d Wade. You can't make him this and

546
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: you'll never win with ud. He doesn't have a fifteen

547
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: foot of them. But I was like, bro, I just kept

548
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: hearing it, and I'm sensitive. I don't like hearing that ship,

549
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: so I said, okay, let me fucking step up. But

550
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: U D knows this the year, the first year I

551
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: got here, we made it to Eastern Commerce finals. Stan

552
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: van Gundhy. I love Stan, but we had a We

553
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: had a situation to where we had the number one

554
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: spot and I go to stand, says Stan, let me

555
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: sit out, said no, he made me play. Fucking Jermaine

556
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: O'Neill comes down and lane and look, I'm gonna show

557
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: you this you do, I still got to not look

558
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: at that. Yeah, put the camera down on own to

559
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: show people if you can.

560
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: So that's terrible. I'm so.

561
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: Jermaine O'Neill comes down the middle of lane and we

562
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: fucking four or five games in first I need. I

563
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: want to be like, let me take a rest and

564
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it. Jermaine O'Neill comes down lane and

565
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: hits this right here, splits it. But I can't let

566
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: my guys down, so I'm shooting it up doing all that.

567
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: By the time we got to the Eastern coastin final,

568
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk, but we still almost won the game,

569
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: and I think, I think I believe it. We would

570
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: have made to the to the finals against the Spurs.

571
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I think I could have got something to see that

572
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: so we we definitely, we definitely could have had too.

573
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: So I just always think back that if I would

574
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: have stayed out and been healthy and I was just

575
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: I was damn like that was the best shape I was.

576
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I was that ever because Pat and build that body fat,

577
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I was fucking slimming and running the court again, and

578
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: d Wade was coming on his own and we had

579
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: a chance to play Spurs and all that. But I

580
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: had that injury, and.

581
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: You never told us you had the opportunity to play

582
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: with some of the greatste guards. When you talk about Penny,

583
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: you talk about Kobe, you talk about d Wade, when

584
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: you just go back because we talked a little bit

585
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: earlier off crame and you talked about you know, people

586
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 3: thought that you and Kobe had issues or whatever, but

587
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, Kobe always came to you man to man,

588
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: and you know, said whatever he had to say, and

589
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: you always respected that. We respect motherfuckers to have out

590
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 3: of our communication. When you put your head down and

591
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: mumble some ship and walk away, you down at the

592
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: end of the bench and throwing your towel and lining

593
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: and shit with that. We don't respect that, but we

594
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: respect when you come to us man and man and say,

595
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: what do you got to say, whether we agree with

596
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: you or not, we respect when people come to you

597
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 3: and say man to man. So can you just talk

598
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: about the differences of Anthony Hardaway, Penny, Kobe, and d Wade,

599
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: Just the differences of those three on the off the court,

600
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: whatever differences you see, because they were all great in

601
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: their own way.

602
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: So let me start off with Penny. Penny already had

603
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: everything as he did. Never had to have any discussions

604
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: with Penny. He had everything. And I told the story.

605
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys knew it. You know me,

606
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't really pay attention to a lot of motherfuckers.

607
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I won't really give a fuck who you are. So

608
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing blue Chips, blue Chips, and Orlando's like, Nick, no, yeah.

609
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: And Orlando's like, oh, we don't want you doing movies.

610
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: You don're not gonna be working out. So I had

611
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: it in my contract or work out three hours before

612
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: we shoot. So we're playing pick up and it's a

613
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: skinny motherfucker. Every time I put my hand up, he

614
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: got that motherfucker right there, and he nice with it

615
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: too when he wanted to. I'm like, damn, who is

616
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: this actor? And he's like, no, that's Penny heard. I'm like, whoa,

617
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't know who he was. I don't know. I

618
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: don't watch Colla. That's Penny all the way. So now

619
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I do my research and they say, yeah, he can't

620
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: beat the number three pick. Then we get the number

621
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: one pick. So this guy would always tell me, you, man,

622
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: you gotta I'm not that guy. I want to come

623
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: do my job and then leave. I'm not the guy

624
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: to go upstairs and tell people what to do. I

625
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: had to I had to become that. So these guy's like, man,

626
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: you need to tell the people you want Penny. So

627
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I went off to be like, hey, if y'all don't

628
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: get this Penny all the way kid, when my deal

629
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: is up, gonna do something new. And I was like,

630
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: oh shit, I don't believe. So now I'm at the

631
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: house watching the drive and they don't pick Penny. They

632
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: picked Chris. I bust out every window in the back

633
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: and then the phone ring and John Gabras said, Shack,

634
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: you buy the TV. He's like, yeah, watch this, we

635
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: have an announcement that the Golden State Warriors Orlando Magic

636
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: trade Chris for Penny. I was like, oh, ship, now

637
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: I got him because when I was at the movie set,

638
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the next man Chick and Kareem Penny had it.

639
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Kobe wanted it right after playing with Penny. We're gonna

640
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: let you get a young fella relaxed. Nah, he wasn't relaxing.

641
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: He was. When he first came in, we called him

642
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: show boat because he was, you know, the high crowd

643
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: in a slow him down, but he would never slow down.

644
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: So finally when he started coming into his own I

645
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna have to use them. But

646
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: he's the puppy that when you spank the puppy A

647
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: lot of puppies. He was the one that show you

648
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: his teeth. Yeah, I like that so well. I used

649
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: that so a lot. And you see me do this.

650
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I'll say something personal just to get you mad, because

651
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: I know when you're mad. I know when you're mad. Yeah, ain't.

652
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about so a lot of stuff that was

653
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: going on y'all, not y'all, but the fast Oh they

654
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: don't like it.

655
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: Not.

656
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I knew what I'm doing as a leader, like I

657
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: already know what I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give

658
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: you twenty eight ten playoffs, thirty forty. I need somebody

659
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: else to do that too. Motherfuck you shoot too much?

660
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: What fuck you doing you? Motherfucker? You you ain't Mike,

661
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: you ain't. Matter of fact, I got another kid in Cleveland, Lebron,

662
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: he Bron the man. You ain't ship like I used

663
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: to do it because one I know, he not in

664
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: a punk I know, and I used to eat him up,

665
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: used to eat him up. And I always tell people,

666
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: if if if we hated each other that much, look

667
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: at our first championship, when the when when when the

668
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: horns ain't and there's twenty thousand people on the floor,

669
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: who was the first motherfucker jumping arms? Yeah, think about

670
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: that and then and then you're not me and you

671
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: had one or two arguments. But after after we get

672
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: out the showers as yo, man, what's the name of

673
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: that soul who's about to like this? Is that that

674
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: that happens in relationships? D Wade, from what I saw,

675
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: he already had it. So now mess up with Penny

676
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: arguing with this other kid in LA. I'm gonna do different.

677
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: You know, you was there first thing I did when

678
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: I came to mind me, I said, you heard a

679
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of shit about me that ain't gonna happen with

680
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: me and you. This your ship. Yeah, remember this is

681
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: your ship. I'm gonna help you graduate this ship. Ship.

682
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't want them to because I know, shock of

683
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: d Wade, because it was already it's your ship already.

684
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I came here because of you, because I need a

685
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker like you to help me get one. More So,

686
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: me and him never had a problem. I think the

687
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: first time we all jumped on him was after the

688
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: finals when we went down too and we was like yo,

689
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: and like he looking for us. I'm like, now, mother fucker,

690
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: go to work. I got four people on me and

691
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: I ain't playing well. Fucking go to work. And then

692
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: those fucking next four games, he was crazy. It was

693
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: it was crazy. He just took off. That's the difference.

694
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: But you know, they were all great. They were a

695
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: lot of great guards. Steve Nash was another one, Rondo

696
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: was another one like that. Just I'm just glad I

697
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to, you know, to play with guys

698
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: like that. But those three the ones that uh, well,

699
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: two helped me win championships and with three are definitely

700
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: made into the fund. But Penny, Penny ad it, so let.

701
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: Me, let me, let me go, let me, let me

702
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: just rewind just a little bit. You got on the

703
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: phone with them people and say, if you don't draft Penny,

704
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a decision.

705
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: And you left anyway though I did. But no, but

706
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: hold on so you hood wing no, no, but when

707
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: he came, we did. We were supposed to games, and

708
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: then we made to the finals and then again I'm

709
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: trying to maximize my potential. That forty is cool, but

710
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: that ship's going on. Oh no, for sure. You know

711
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: how that fucking house that Mike talking about the gym,

712
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: I had to pay for that ship, so I needed

713
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: some more bread.

714
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: So before we move on, I just want to know,

715
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: as a businessman, is that where you your business wheels,

716
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: your business minding, your wheel start turning when you got

717
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: to LA Because as a businessman like you set the

718
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: fucking standard for a lot of us out here who

719
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: just look at what we want to do outside of

720
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: basketball and after basketball, like every other day, every other

721
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: day I'm looking at every other day, I'm looking at

722
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: you big fella, and that shit is motivating, you know.

723
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Another story about my father as he

724
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: beat me up. That beat me up as he's disciplining

725
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: me was the.

726
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Second to day we used to get asked with, Yeah,

727
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: I was real, That's right, I was real.

728
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: His words was, motherfucker, listen, just listen. So when I'm

729
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: in LA I'm looking at Magie Johnson and I'm listening

730
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: to what he's saying. He keep grasping one day and say,

731
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: hey man, it's nice to be famous. At some point

732
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: you want to start learning business and owner shit. And

733
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: when he first said, I'm like, what the fuck are

734
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: you talking about? But then I hear my father, My

735
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: fucker listen to him listen, because you know a lot

736
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: of us have to be done playing. We don't have

737
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: four to five years as we've done playing. We don't

738
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: have nothing fucked up. And I didn't want to be

739
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: like that because I remember in Orlando, in Alaquais Lakes

740
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: looking at a seven hundred thousand dollar house and my

741
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: mom thinking, with the old family and we can't afford it,

742
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: And I tell a lady, I'll take it, give you cash.

743
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Put out a briefcase she count seven hundred from my mom.

744
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Be like Mom at your house and them fucking big tears.

745
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: I can't lose that. Fuck my house in my cars.

746
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: I got to keep my mom. No, I'm thinking about it.

747
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: My mama. Yeah, because we grew up in private. My

748
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: mama gonna keep that house forever. She's no longer deserved.

749
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about business and doing that. Just about listening.

750
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: So a lot of times when people talk, even if

751
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: you perceive it as criticism, you listen. Like a lot

752
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: of times when people criticize me, I would listen, well,

753
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: fucking shacky, he's a dominant player, but the double team

754
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: is coming. He needed to he needed to do something else.

755
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Now I know I can't go to the jump hook.

756
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: Now I know I got to go to the drop

757
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: step or the fate away that you used to hate

758
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: when I fucking shot it. Fuck that big feeling. We

759
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: ain't come to see that ship.

760
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Because he was the most dominant player. So it was like,

761
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: I guess, fucking dominate. But I get it, Bro, I mean,

762
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: but I'm happy you brought that up the way you

763
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: respond to criticism, because you recently had comments and you know,

764
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert had his opinion on how he felt. You

765
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: know you, you made your opinion on him, but you

766
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: responded to criticism by saying, fuck that, I'm gonna show

767
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: you if you want to talk that shit, I'm gonna

768
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: show you when I get in between those lines and

769
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: you just want to. I'm touched on that because I

770
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: think for me and I understand you, and I know

771
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: who you are, and as as as an NBA player

772
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: and as the people, when you get the Defensive Player

773
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: to Year trophy, there's an expectation. So I think Rudy

774
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: taking it personal. This ain't about you, Rudy. This is

775
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: about the fact that you keep taking home that motherfucker

776
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: trophy and as an expectation when you take come that

777
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: trophy to handle your business. So it's not even personal.

778
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's personal. I think there's just

779
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: an expectation, you know, to who much is given. Much's

780
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: fucking required. Like the old heads used to say, you know,

781
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: it's not personal because you've been in the trenches with me.

782
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: If I'd have said some shit like that to you,

783
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: you came and pissed off ad.

784
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: To come in that motherfucker.

785
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: Tell somebody head lock me in the room with that motherfucker,

786
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: and I promise you I come out.

787
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Locked me in a room this motherfucker. I promise you

788
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming out. And that's what I like. So a

789
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: lot of these big men, when I put out these challenges,

790
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: they fail the test because they respond sensitive. First of all,

791
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: if you're getting two fifty, now what what? What? What

792
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: is your renewal check? ONNA say? You can answer it, Mike,

793
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the way the money is now. They just signed this

794
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: six being down. If you're making two fifty and you

795
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: playing up to par, what's your next check gonna be three?

796
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help No five hundred. I'm trying to help.

797
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you get it. You know, when

798
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I speak, I try to speak from facts. It may

799
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: come out wrong and you may think I'm hating and

800
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: his comments. You're trying to stay relevant. Motherfucker. I got

801
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: fifteen commercials. Fuck you talking about this is true? True, true.

802
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm the manstang. I want you to protect this thing

803
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: of ours because if you play well and get five

804
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: hundred million, there's a kid right now in high school

805
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: that could be making seven hundred million. But if you

806
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: keep playing, how you playing and you fuck the money up,

807
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: you fuck the money up, you have these owners out

808
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and get this guy too, filly, he's not worth it,

809
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: and you fucked the money up, then this thing of

810
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: ours is ruined.

811
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean, for me, I understand that, and I speak

812
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: that language because my fucking life and my whole reputation

813
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: has just been built off facing challenges and building grit.

814
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: So when I got to the NBA, that ship was

815
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: just a part of my DNA, you know what I'm saying,

816
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Like facing all that shit, I still remember today. And

817
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: I love Dan LeBatard, you know what I'm saying. He

818
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: family three or five, but I remember he wrote an

819
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: article when I came to play with you and he

820
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: said Shaq had never won with a player under six

821
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 3: to eight playing next to him, or something like that.

822
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: I was like, motherfucker, Shock this one with Travis Knight

823
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: and I eat his fucking lunch like you got me

824
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: fucked up?

825
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: And I love Dan.

826
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: But instead of getting mad at Dan, that shit lit

827
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: my fire and I said to myself, I'm a proved

828
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: that I could help Shock win a fucking championship. Instead

829
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: of getting mad and saying fuck you Dan and all

830
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: that bullshit. I use that shit as motivation, and that

831
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: shit pushed my buttons to help you win a fucking

832
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: championship and be whatever I needed to be, just to

833
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: be able to prove those people wrong.

834
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: And if you're a historian on the game, I'm doing

835
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: what the big guys did to me when I got

836
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: to LA. All they did was compare me and Kareem

837
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: said one day, Yeah, Shaq may be good, but they

838
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: don't win no championships. That motherfuckert G twenty classification. Fuck,

839
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: i'ma go back at Kareem be right. So all the

840
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: stuff I'm saying about Rudy Iraq, you don't think I'm right.

841
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: Look at this play right here? Why when Why wouldn't

842
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: somebody push you down your fall you grab their knees

843
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: and put your head between their legs. What the fuck

844
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: is that? That was weird?

845
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: I don't understand that what I'm saying, like, motherfucker, put

846
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: both of us coming down, I tackle your ass and

847
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: all us.

848
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: Rolling on the ground. Take your foot and put it

849
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: right in the stummach like do something like come on, bro?

850
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: And then and then again you did you brought to

851
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: say you're the defensive player of the year. But every

852
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: SKYT report I'm looking at they targeting you.

853
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, And then again that goes with the expectation.

854
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that the expectation as the

855
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: defensive player of the is that you got to be

856
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: at a guard your yard and there shouldn't be a

857
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: fucking scheme or a situation that we can't play you in.

858
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you got Anchi defense.

859
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: You got a Anchi defense. You can't be the guy

860
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: that they're picking on. You can't be the guy that

861
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: they're isolating. So can you read his quote? There's an expectation, Rudy.

862
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: It ain't personal, it's an expectation. Read his quote, Mike,

863
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: can you read it from me? Because I want to

864
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: break it.

865
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me. You got

866
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: it up there.

867
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: It's sad to see one that has accomplished so much

868
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: as Shack did both sports and business still be triggered

869
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: by another man's finance. This is an accomplishment. First of all,

870
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm not triggered by your finances or your accomplish that

871
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: big bank, big bank, take a little bank.

872
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: All day.

873
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Just go take that big bank, take a little bank.

874
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: All day trigger. Yeah, and if you're talking about your

875
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: accomplishments of those little trophies you got, that's not enough.

876
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: When you're making two fifty young man, it's not enough. Hm.

877
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: You want to you want to impress me and U

878
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: D and Mike. Win a championship and shut us the

879
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: fuck up. That's how you shut us up. That's win

880
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: a championship and shut us the funk up because you

881
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: got a young dog over there with you.

882
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Win a championship.

883
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: You got a dog, So win a championship and everybody

884
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up the whole really shut up.

885
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, and to stay relevant, I don't want

886
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: to be relevant. The only thing I want to be

887
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: able to buy my mother and the things she wants

888
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: about my mother, her first looking person.

889
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: You've accomplished that, big.

890
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: Dog, I know, But I just like to explain people

891
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: who like. I don't need likes, I don't need views.

892
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: I need to be able to walk in a purse

893
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: store and get my mama three thousand dollars purse with

894
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: motherfucking ease. I bought my mother first bluey defining person

895
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: and she had the biggest spise of the face. That's

896
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: all I want in life. I want my kids to

897
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: be able to go to any college.

898
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: I want to.

899
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: Work and do this. I told my son the other

900
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: day we were riding and my house is nice, and

901
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: it was this fucking house. It was beautiful. I said,

902
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: who else is that? He said, I don't know. That's

903
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: how I want to lift. I'd rather motherfuckers didn't know

904
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: who I was. You just know that motherfucker got that

905
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: new twenty twenty four cyber truck sitting on a thing

906
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: like that, Like, I'd rather be like that. So I

907
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: don't even know where the fuck you stay. You stay

908
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: by me, That's what I'm saying. So stay by me

909
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: in Sothwest being irrelevant, I'm just just trying to give

910
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: you a game. But I would not like to have

911
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: him in my locker room because I'm not gonna go

912
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: to war with him. This guy right here next to me,

913
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm quick to brag about how I got four rings.

914
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: He's the motherfucking reason now, d Way, well, yes, yes,

915
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the way, yes, lom but him, because he did all

916
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: the fucking dirty work. He was the one that showed

917
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: up and worked extra hard. He was the one that

918
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: kept everybody.

919
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: In check, and the motherfuckers tried to leave me open, Yes,

920
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: and I had to make shots, had to make shots.

921
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: Think rather, yeah you got if you think I'm gonna

922
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: be the motherfucker reason we lose a ring?

923
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: You got?

924
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: What was the game plan?

925
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: Up me ship? Let it fly was?

926
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: What was the what was their game plan? You tell

927
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: about the game plan?

928
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: Leave me, leave me open. He's done, motherfuckers. I don't

929
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: know why after after Dallas tried to ship, Indiana tried

930
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: to ship twice, like I'm just like, y'all, just motherfucker,

931
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: y'all just think I'm gonna miss open shots like this

932
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: ship don't go like that, Like I'm ready for the moment,

933
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: like stay ready to say you ain't got to get ready.

934
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: And y'all also talking to a motherfucker who had to

935
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: fight for everything. I couldn't wait to get at this

936
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: fucking platform. I couldn't wait to get here to show

937
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: all you motherfuckers that said I couldn't show you motherfuckers.

938
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I could. And this is what I'm fighting for when

939
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your finances, because he deserved that two

940
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: fifty he didn't even get Did you even get fifty?

941
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: That's my fucking point. I got a dog. You want

942
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: to get somebody to fit to give it to this motherfucker.

943
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Not you. You don't deserve it. So I ain't fucking triggering.

944
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the truth. And if you act

945
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: like you deserve it, prove me wrong. I will be

946
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: the first to come up there and be like, Okay,

947
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: you proved me wrong, but you haven't proved me wrong yet.

948
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: When winning, winning cures everything is wrong.

949
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, since we're talking about it, what's what's the biggest

950
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: Because everyone always talks about their eras and and and

951
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: I've been all tiptoe both of them a little bit.

952
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: But what's the what's the difference between now the basketball

953
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: players now, the team's now, the playstyle now compared to

954
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: when you were coming through.

955
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: What I hate about watching this game now is everybody's

956
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: running the same place. Do they even have fucking shoot

957
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: around there? No, it's not really plays, it's position. It's positions.

958
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: A lot of reading react, a lot of reading react.

959
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: That's dumb. Like, you know, we we jump on Joel

960
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: and b like what you're shooting thirty foots for? Yeah?

961
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Like everybody's running the same play like that? That that

962
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: right there is a first Yeah, it's a lot of

963
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: read and react. Nobody wants to take advantage of their abilities,

964
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: not the talent. You have to take advantage of your ability.

965
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: If I'm the biggest guy out there, I'm not shooting

966
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: fucking jumpers, Mike. I wanted to step out there all

967
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: the time and fucking put my l and make my

968
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: shit look as pretty as yours. But no, you did

969
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: be ay, motherfucker didn't pay to see that. Get your

970
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: ass down load and fucking like second thing, and then

971
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: the third thing. It's it's not as physical, and I

972
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: don't really like to compare errors either, but you know

973
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: I want I want this thing of ours protected. Like,

974
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: just signed a deal for six billion, what do you

975
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: think the next deal gonna be? We can get ten?

976
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: So now I heard the other day that Luca may

977
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: be the first hundred million dollar man. I'm happy for Luca.

978
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: He deserves that. But guess what, it's a young Luca

979
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: right now looking saying. Because let me tell you something

980
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: that fifteen men and John Contact made.

981
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Over fucking your contact right there.

982
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: That ship fucking motivated me. Yeah and again and again.

983
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: All I wanted was eight million. For ten years, I had,

984
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: I had everything, I was gonna get a Bens. I

985
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: was gonna get a Jimmy Blazer. I had it. I

986
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: was gonna get a house blazing around my house. I

987
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: had it all figured out. So fucking man one hundred million. Listen,

988
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: I wish I was seventeen right now, I'll be doing

989
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: three things training hookah, listen. Something else.

990
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: I think we all all I think figured out. Yes, yes,

991
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: something else, Hey, listen, I think all three of us

992
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: can agree, like we came out to Sack just a

993
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: little too early.

994
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.

995
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: If our old boys would have hell known just a

996
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: little longer, we would have been we would have been

997
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: out there with them hundred two hundred balls for real,

998
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: for real.

999
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: My favorite part about U D right, it is like,

1000
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: let's just say we go to New York because you

1001
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: know they talk about Lebron and them were the Heatles.

1002
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: We were the original Heatles. So let's just say, let's

1003
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: just say I go to New York and party a

1004
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: little too much. You telling the first three men's if

1005
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready or not right, So like, if I'm fucking

1006
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: don't talk about that motherfucker you ain't ready, don't trow

1007
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: about that mother fucking he out there bullshit. Coach you.

1008
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I'll be like, now, come on, big Bell, we need this.

1009
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Gave you out there bullshit and so like I would

1010
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: like like U d would keep everybody in check.

1011
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: But he responded, Bro, it was like it was I

1012
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: challenged him out of eye communication. I wasn't mumbling with

1013
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: my head down walking to the end of the bench

1014
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: talking about them behind his back. Man and man communication. Hey,

1015
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: by fellow, we need you tonight. Now come up with

1016
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: that bullshit. Yeah, come up with that bullshit.

1017
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, all right, just let me get

1018
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: some water right quick, because hey, we used.

1019
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: To be out Let me get some water.

1020
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I'm the first guy. I'm the first guy

1021
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: to convince Pat to break his waist because when we

1022
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: first got here, we were winning and playing well. But listen,

1023
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay out. Yeah, so so fucking Pat came

1024
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: us one day. We don't give you guys curfew, and

1025
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: if you break curfew one thousand dollars. I went in

1026
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: this office with a check for forty one thousand. Yeah,

1027
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: I said, I did. I said thousand times forty one

1028
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: home games. I'm a grown man. That's just not gonna happen.

1029
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I said, I don't drink, but the other guys, I said, Pat, okay,

1030
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: the other guys drinking were gonna go out. Just move

1031
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: practice back to twelve, what said Pat?

1032
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: For me?

1033
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: So now if you go out at three, get in

1034
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: the bed at four, you still because listen, you know

1035
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: it's affletus. We only need three or four hours, right,

1036
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys nineteen forty two in and

1037
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: patrolling and they get in at three and then want

1038
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: to show up at eight. Our practices used to be

1039
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: fucked up, man, I said Pat. That shit back to twelve.

1040
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: So then Pat was like, well, if you do it,

1041
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: you better do show me something. That's when we went

1042
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: on that streak, a legendary streak. But then after the

1043
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: streak was broken, he went back to the eight o'clock shit.

1044
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: But I mean, one thing you did do when we

1045
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: did used to go out, you made sure we come

1046
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: together and we all leave together, like everybody leaving at

1047
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: the same time. We ain't ain't no strigglers, we ain't

1048
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: leaving nobody behind. We all leaving this motherfucker's time to go.

1049
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: Let's get the fuck up out of here. Because my thing, though,

1050
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: as the catalysts not drinking. I could start us off.

1051
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying. I don't drink. I don't taking

1052
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 3: no drinks.

1053
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: So like in the game, I can especially like if

1054
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: they're not ready now, I know, I gotta be ready

1055
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: to keep it closer. Now after they swept some of

1056
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: that shit out, and I could be like, you did

1057
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: doctor basket. Yeah, he doubling, so you know that was

1058
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: our thing. But he definitely moved that thing back to

1059
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock because, bro, we used to We used to

1060
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: be out to three four Mansion and love and then

1061
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to wake up at eight and hey, bro, our

1062
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: practice used to be sloppy shit.

1063
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, this ain't the greatest example, but I mean

1064
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: when you talk about like leadership, and one thing I

1065
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: do know about the game of basketball is you just

1066
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: can't show up to practice at eight o'clock and practicing,

1067
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: then go home with your family and then do it

1068
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: the next day. You got to spend time with your

1069
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: guys off the basketball court. You got to build those relationships.

1070
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1071
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: You got to get to know the guy that's playing

1072
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: next to you. And it's always more important to you

1073
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: when you play next to a brother as opposed to

1074
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: somebody who just say it's a teammate. I just see

1075
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 3: for a couple hours a day. So we was able

1076
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: to build that bond and we were bonding and then

1077
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: when we stepped on the basketball court, that was your man.

1078
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: So when you can have those personal out of I

1079
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: communication communication things and it w with't nobody tripping.

1080
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: And when I'm doing my job at t n T

1081
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: talk about these players, I don't. I can care less

1082
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: how sensitive there because again I think I've I have

1083
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: G fourteen classification.

1084
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking speaking of speaking of tn T and talk

1085
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: about these players, what's your thoughts on on the teams

1086
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: right now? Most importantly hot topic this this bron and

1087
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: Brownie situation. What's your thoughts on that?

1088
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: Well, didn't talk about t n T too. We're gonna

1089
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: we talk about Bronnie.

1090
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1091
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: I have to be I have to be a I

1092
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: have to be a consummate professional. So we definitely have

1093
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: one year left and they're working on some things. That's

1094
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: all I'm I liberate yourself.

1095
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: Hey, so this last year, you're gonna get me on

1096
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: on on the desk, which you promise with my finest suit,

1097
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you promise finest.

1098
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: So in a perfect world. I would love for us

1099
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: to stay together forever, but you know it's in the

1100
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: hands of the powers right now. So, but this last

1101
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: year is gonna be a phenomena year. You know, Chuck

1102
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy. I'm gonna go crazy. It's gonna be fine.

1103
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: And hopefully this is not the last year. Listen, do

1104
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: me one favorite.

1105
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: I hope it's not the last.

1106
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Listen, tell me do me one favorite.

1107
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: Tell Chuck he got to start with the Street Meets.

1108
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: He got the street.

1109
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: He got to start with the Street meet Man. I

1110
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: told her, I can't take it, I said, Chuck, do

1111
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: you know what street meet means? No, I said, Chuck,

1112
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: street me I said, street met ain't no good terminive.

1113
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: I ain't from the who for Alabama? I said, street

1114
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: met ain't no good term where I'm from. Dog to

1115
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: stop with the Street Meets is the funniest dude that

1116
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to.

1117
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: Because I talk about great players. You had to play

1118
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: with You play with Bron too? Yeah, how then we

1119
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: missed that?

1120
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, Bron Bron was a guy I never had

1121
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: to say. The thing was, I was so amazing his

1122
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: leadership and how he played and when I was with him.

1123
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't the shock, but I was a good role player.

1124
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: We were first in my conference, played Boston, Big Baby

1125
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: broke my hand. I gotta leave for six weeks and

1126
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I try to come back.

1127
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: I come back.

1128
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. We lose to Boston. But you know,

1129
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: these are things I think about when it comes to rings,

1130
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: like I should have eight rings, and I'm not talking

1131
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: about free throws, and I'm just talking about messed up opportunity.

1132
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: We should have had to.

1133
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: But you see what you see the obsession, How obsessed

1134
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: you gotta be because he ain't talking about the rings

1135
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: he got. He talked about how many he should have.

1136
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: Like that's the ship that run through our minds. Is

1137
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: you fucking obsessed that you don't think about the ones

1138
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 3: you want? You think about the fucking ones you didn't get.

1139
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: I should have got one or two with Penny right

1140
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: being cold lost to the Detroit. You should have got

1141
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: that one. When I first heard we lost, we lost Detroit.

1142
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: Should have got that RI fucked up played with bron

1143
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: I should have got that one. And when I was

1144
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: with Boston, we could have got one up there too.

1145
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: So if everything would have went perfectly, I could have

1146
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: had eight or nine rings, and I could have been

1147
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: like Robert Alry right now. But what I'm looking forward to.

1148
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: I like storylines. We all know Boston had the easiest

1149
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: run ef to that championship. They did. Can they pack

1150
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: it up? They did, that's all. They didn't back it up. Okay,

1151
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: you had an easy don't matter you want it? Can

1152
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: you back it up? What you're gonna do? Philly? They did?

1153
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: Paul George, they did Joel and Bid. What you're gonna do? Milwaukee, Hey, Orlando,

1154
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Miami would like so in the

1155
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: East and so in the East. I'm looking for that story.

1156
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: What you think about us? What you think about us

1157
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: if we're healthy? A healthy Miami, A healthy Miami. I

1158
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: like you, But I still think you need one more

1159
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: big body score one more big guy. Yeah, one more no, No,

1160
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: not a.

1161
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: Big, big scoring guy somebody can put up.

1162
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: Yes, so Donovan Mitchell, somebody like that.

1163
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Hey, big fella, you predicted you predicted Dallas last year?

1164
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: What's your what's your predictions this year? That was a

1165
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: that was a big time prediction last year.

1166
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta I gotta, I gotta be

1167
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: able to look at people a preseason. I don't know,

1168
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: but Dallas, Dallas definitely gonna be a tough one. But

1169
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they need another guy that can calm those

1170
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: guys down or step up when those guys are not hitting,

1171
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: because the problem I had with Dallas is one game

1172
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: is Kyrie, one game is Luca, and they would go

1173
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: back and forth. Give me a give me a consistency

1174
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: of both you guys doing that every night, then I'll

1175
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: say you're you're, you're, You're scary. The Lakers thing. Bron

1176
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: little Bronni is my nephew. Happy for him. I wish

1177
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: him well. I know his work ethic and there's a

1178
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of storylines, good and bad behind that. I just

1179
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: hope everything goes off. I just I just I just

1180
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: sat here with Marlon Williams on my podcast. He said,

1181
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I want my kids to be happy. I want young

1182
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: fellow to be happy. And I kind of know what

1183
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: he's going through because you know, my son Sharif, he's

1184
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: still trying. He was a good player, he had the

1185
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: harder tech situations, still trying to get in. So you

1186
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: know the only thing for kids like that is they

1187
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: have the a lot of pressure because of the last name.

1188
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: I like, they don't even they don't even really get

1189
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do what they want. They're always going

1190
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: to be compared to us. But I tell them all

1191
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: the time, we don't need another basketball playing this family.

1192
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: I just want you to be happy. Yes, So right

1193
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: now if it is with me at Reebok and we're

1194
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: doing big things, we're actually talking to a couple of

1195
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: year players, Mike, and that's right, that's what it's all about.

1196
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: So my wish for Brownie is to be happy. Yes,

1197
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: I hate the storylines and I hate the nepotism talking on.

1198
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. He's in. I want them to be

1199
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: happy and I want him to perform, and I wanted

1200
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: to do well because his son and my son are

1201
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: best friends. I'm not going to jeopardize their relationship just

1202
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: by saying some bullshit. I wouldn't say no Butcher anyway,

1203
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: because Bron and his family's always been good to me.

1204
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: But he's like a nephew to me. So I just

1205
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: wish him well.

1206
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's done a great job of,

1207
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, just quieting and the noise and focusing on

1208
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: the things he can control. And when he do speak

1209
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: he makes specific points will let you know that he's

1210
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: mature enough to understand his position, because when he speaks,

1211
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: he talked about being like a Drew Holliday type guy,

1212
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: or these type of guys that know they're not necessarily

1213
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: the top scorers on the team at this position, at

1214
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: this point of their career, but they're guys that you

1215
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: can't win without. Just switch on the knife guys, the

1216
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: guys that get over, get under, get through screens. They

1217
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: blow up fucking pick and rolls, and they can blow

1218
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: up a whole play. So if he can come in

1219
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: and make an impact like that, he just builds and

1220
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: he starts staying. He deals with that. So I'm looking

1221
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: fun to do good things too.

1222
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: You know us for setting up that wild dream I

1223
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: want to play my son, that ain't gonna happen. No, man,

1224
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: that's that's big right.

1225
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: There, still playing at a high level and doing that ship.

1226
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Hey hey, big fella, before we let you get off here,

1227
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: question a little bit.

1228
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: I know you gotta go smoke your hookah. Yeah, big hookah,

1229
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: gotta get up out of you.

1230
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: Touched on a little bit, but where was your mindset?

1231
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Is like transition in the business because we talked about

1232
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: here a little bit like you are the staple of

1233
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: that in my opinion, Like how you transition to business

1234
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: and senior.

1235
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: All commercials into when you get the time the.

1236
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: Big chickens and Rebok and and all all these companies.

1237
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: Like where was your mindset at? What age was your

1238
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: mindset there?

1239
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: I remember when you just started buying those car washes?

1240
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: You was here.

1241
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: Now you got like eight one hundred of mon motherfuckers

1242
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: like you. Just you know what I'm saying, How you

1243
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: got the time you DJ and the shit spending my

1244
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: fucking records and shit, yeah, DJ Diesel.

1245
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the first thing you have to have is

1246
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: a motivation that could never be broken. Wan My mom

1247
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: have everything she ever wanted, the hustler spirit. If you

1248
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: motherfuckers don't understand. I seen this lady. I seen this

1249
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: lady have three pair of pants and she would alternate Monday,

1250
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday and the shirts never complain. I've seen

1251
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: this woman wake up, cook us a hell of an eye,

1252
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: hoppish breakfast, eggs, sausage, pancakes, go to fucking work, come back,

1253
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: cook a dinner and never complain and never have shit.

1254
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: Hey mom got twenty dollars ago as to it, I

1255
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: ain't got it. So now as I'm working towards getting this,

1256
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: I got it. So now that I got it, you

1257
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: know the stories. Amen, A lot of y'all guys get

1258
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: that shit and lose it, not losing it, because if

1259
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: I lose it, this woman about to lose his little

1260
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: bends about her now, don't want that happened? Like she

1261
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: She did so much for me to get that. So

1262
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: now I got to learn. I'm watching people. Oh he

1263
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: did that? And then again, jealousy is motivation to me.

1264
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Damn magic did what? How can I do that? Oh?

1265
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Magic with Starbucks? Okay, I'm gonna give with Papa John's.

1266
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Magic bought two cleaners, all right, I'm about two like

1267
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing that and I'm teaching myself. But again, the

1268
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: motivation will never be broken. I want this lady to

1269
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: have whatever she wants. Now. I got a beautiful wife,

1270
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: and I got beautiful kids. Daddy, can we can? We

1271
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: can we go to Disney? How much canna be cost

1272
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: to get six kids and do the six thousand? I

1273
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to always do that for them? Right?

1274
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: So now I got my mama, I got my kids

1275
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: and I still got that fear. I'm not losing the shit.

1276
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: So that's what It's not that I'm smarter than everybody.

1277
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll do that. It's just that I want this woman

1278
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: to be able to get whatever she wants, because again,

1279
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I remember that feeling. I'm like in Orlando. I had

1280
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: to trick her into taking this big ass house that

1281
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: she's that she thought we couldn't have liked. I took

1282
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: her to the store with the best buy and I'm

1283
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: getting stereo shit. I'm ordering shit boom boom, because I

1284
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: know what I got. I just looked at my ship.

1285
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: I got about nine million, right, So I'm ordering ship

1286
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for my mom. She's in the office

1287
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: talking to him about layaway because that's all she knew,

1288
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: and I had to pull up and said, man, that

1289
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: shit's overweight. No, baby, you she's just forty thousand. Mama,

1290
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah like that. No, But like she's like,

1291
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, she know I made it, but she don't

1292
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: really know financial literacy like that. She you know, she

1293
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: she heard what I got, but she don't really know

1294
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: what that means. I know what it means because I

1295
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: went to the Bank of America. How much I got,

1296
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Oh you got by men? Cool? Don't one that of

1297
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: fu like that's that was a proud muma for me.

1298
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: So I haven't played. I haven't played twenty years and

1299
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm still having those moments. I'm about to move my

1300
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: family back to Orlando. It ain't no wait mama, what

1301
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: how she wants? And I'm walking that motherfucker with conforts

1302
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: and be like, here you go, thank you. It ain't

1303
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna be no thirty, no bank loan, none of that shit.

1304
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: Whatever she wants, I'm gonna get it. You know, my

1305
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: mom was that woman. She don't want a lot, but

1306
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, so you know we're about to move back

1307
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: to Orlando. So just to be in that that that

1308
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: is what motivates me. It ain't about oh you're doing

1309
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: this what nah fuck that I have to protect the

1310
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: woman that protected me, telling me bro I used to

1311
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: see her. I used to see her wear the same

1312
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: outfits to all office parties, little black thing with the

1313
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: little fucking shirt with the little thing. And you know,

1314
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: we're going there and I can see all the other

1315
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: moms in the new outfice and they're fucking talking about us,

1316
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like okay, and God and my father picked me.

1317
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: Like my my dad told me, you don't play well,

1318
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: we don't eat. And he was fucking dead serious. No,

1319
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm seriously, you don't play well, we don't eat. So

1320
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: now when you come from nothing and you get something,

1321
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, you know, if you play well,

1322
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: you can get more, motherfucker. I want it all. If

1323
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: I got forty now and come buy my mom a

1324
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: little house. What the fuck you think I'm gonna do

1325
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: when I get this hundred many? And then when you

1326
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: get the hundred many, hey man, you win champ ship,

1327
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: you can do. Motherfuck. I want it all. I want

1328
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: it because seven kids now want to be able to just,

1329
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, do whatever they want. And I'm teaching my

1330
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: kids respectable Nepertis, Like I tell the story over the time.

1331
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Remember when Nick signed the when Nick's mother gave when

1332
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Nick's grandmother gave him two hundred fifty me. Yeah, it

1333
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: was an article in the paper that Mickey's son, Mickey's

1334
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: mom gave Nick and Kelly all this money. So the

1335
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: next day I'm in the gym, we're working out at night.

1336
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: This motherfucker. They're cleaning the locker room. Nick cleaning the

1337
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: locker room, and I don't know. He just got two

1338
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: fifty tax free. Yeah, my little two fifty fighter, whoever

1339
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: the fuck fighter is he taking all that shit? Fighter? Fighter? Fighter?

1340
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: If I ever see you at the hookah bar, I'm

1341
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: knocking you the fuck out. You know, took so much

1342
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: of my goddamn money. I hate you, fighter fighter you. Yeah,

1343
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: but anyway, s motherfucking they're picking up jockstraps and I'm like, yeah,

1344
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: so I never said that something. So I asked Micky,

1345
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: I said, make you no disrespect, but your son just

1346
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: got the two fifty and boom boom, and why is

1347
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: he He's like, nope. My dad had me working on

1348
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: boats and screws on little boats and work from the bottom.

1349
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: So that's what I do with my kids. I don't

1350
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: give them none until them they got to work.

1351
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. They were upset. I saw coming that.

1352
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: You said, this ain't my money or some shit. If

1353
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: you think you're gonna get some of my money, you

1354
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: got another thing coming some shit.

1355
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: You said like that. Yeah, because you know one of

1356
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: my sons, and listen, I have six seven perfect children.

1357
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: I have no problem. So kind of put my foot

1358
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: in my mouth. So one of my sons will say, man,

1359
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: you do good in school, I'll get you what you want.

1360
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: It's my fuck called me from the Tesla dealership. So no, no, no,

1361
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: you take your ascross street to the Honda. You don't

1362
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: get no motherfucker. And I said, my man, we ain't rich.

1363
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm rich. You don't get it. You don't get no cybertruck. Motherfucker.

1364
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: I do, but you don't. So but they respect that.

1365
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: They're working hard. My oldest son, the DJ Sharif, is

1366
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: executive at a Rebok work with me. Still trying to

1367
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: get at your care is that family? One of my

1368
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: daughters just graduating, got too at Florida. Yes, I just

1369
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: to be a little baby. Gatis. Yes, Gatis, We're good.

1370
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: So big fellow, we're gonna let you get that hookah

1371
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 2: bar man.

1372
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you, big fellow. Man. I'm about to

1373
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm about to catch a flight to Madison.

1374
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: My final Some of my finest some of my finest

1375
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: moments was was playing and just spending time and the

1376
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: memories that I always have. Obviously, just you believing in me,

1377
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: undrafted and one of the best players in the fucking world,

1378
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: one of the most dominant players. Believing in me, man,

1379
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: that ship went a long way, bro. It was priceless,

1380
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: and I appreciate you for that.

1381
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Though. I will always shout you out. You know, a

1382
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: lot of these guys get championship. We kind of know

1383
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: us about us, but I know the real With our

1384
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: guys like you and Big Shot Bob and Rick Fox

1385
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: and Robert Laid, I wouldn't be here right now. So

1386
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for working way harder than

1387
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: I ever worked. And I appreciate you, and you know

1388
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: how much love of God for anybody fucking my boy.

1389
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: You d out here Miami, You're gonna have some problems,

1390
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: you understand. Don't forget where your motherfucker's at the beach.

1391
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: They can't stay out there. Yeah, they gotta leave the

1392
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: damn showcase.

1393
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: Stay here.

1394
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Love you guys.

1395
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate your brother.

1396
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: Hold on. Shout out to this O G crew. These

1397
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: motherfuckers as professional and the motherfucker, oh for sure, the

1398
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: camera man saw a fucking fly on a planet. That

1399
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: motherfucker just took the plant through it out the window.

1400
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: I was like, damn that, hey, I just got a story, man.

1401
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: It was just real quick. Remember that time Pat kicked

1402
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: Being Gary out of the practicing. Did you people try

1403
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: to hit me with a brew stick?

1404
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? But on what happened?

1405
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: So he was gassing ship up though he big fella

1406
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: me gassing ship. He be the gas man and Pat

1407
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: go ahead man. Pat kicked us the funk out, and

1408
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: GP was waiting for me in the tunnel with a

1409
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: brew stick.

1410
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: So wes a practice one day? One thing you're not

1411
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna do to u. D You're not gonna punk them.

1412
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: You're not having punk them. So I told the story

1413
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: on my podcast when I'm When I get to new teams,

1414
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: I got to know who the fuck I got with me.

1415
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: So we playing. Hey, motherfucker, get the rebound and immediately

1416
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be too many more motherfuckers. What fuck

1417
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: you said? I'll beat you at You may beat my eyes,

1418
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: but don't forgive where the fuck you at. You're in Miami?

1419
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: Now I know I got a dog. No, no, no, no,

1420
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: I know I got a dog. Leave this motherfuck alone.

1421
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: He with me? You're already with me. Go to the

1422
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: next monthfucker he not like first day. I gotta find

1423
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: out who the fuck with me? So now I do

1424
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: my research. Yeah, motherfucker from Miami. You know some people

1425
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: chill out. Now I know you know the same people

1426
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: I know.

1427
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: Used to know people in the streets of the best

1428
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: players in the league. One of the fucking highly talk

1429
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck the word is, and he know people

1430
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: in the streets.

1431
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: It was crazy. And now I know he know the

1432
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: same people I know, and they got tremendous amount of

1433
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: respect for him. So now I really know this motherfucker's

1434
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: with me, lean him alone, So now I know I

1435
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: can talk to him any type of way respectfully. Hey man, motherfucker,

1436
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: you wide open. I ain't gonna be passing ball. You

1437
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: keep fucking missing and instead of and instead of oh

1438
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: you're doing that ship club all right, big dog, and

1439
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: then fuck the same thing with me. Hey man, you

1440
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: got this motherfucker on and you're shooting that fucking faia away.

1441
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: Fuck that pussy ship before so we had to and

1442
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: then guess what when when you're from this type of

1443
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: area and environment, that's how the fuck we talk to

1444
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: each other anyway. Motherfuck take the motherfucker dumb. I had

1445
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: flip fuck like it. That's how we do. And then

1446
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, he could look at me and be like, motherfucker,

1447
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: you ask you, motherfucker, ask you like that's how we

1448
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: talk to each other. So I knew that he was

1449
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy with me. And then coming from

1450
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: winning championships, you gotta have dogs. So I got him

1451
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: as a dog, the wade as a dog. And then

1452
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Pat said, okay, we lost this yest year. I'm bringing

1453
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: in some dogs. But you have to make a decisue.

1454
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: You gotta make a decision. You can take all the

1455
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: money and we ain't gonna have nobody, or you can

1456
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: just give me some of his money. I'm gonna get

1457
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: you posy shout, get you motherfuckinge, and I'm gonna get

1458
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: you your arch enemy, Like who is that? Alonzo? Alonzo? Who? Alonzo? Morning?

1459
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: You have a problem with that? I said, no, I

1460
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. And then that changed all that.

1461
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: Was smart with that ship too, because he knew what

1462
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: he was doing. Because every day you were you were

1463
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: challenged like this motherfucker body fat down. I'm getting my

1464
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: body fat down. This motherfucker run fast. I'm gonna run faster,

1465
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: so block two shots. I want to block three shots.

1466
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: This motherfucker. Every day it was still a competition between

1467
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: those two. Motherfucker. I went one, you went too, Like

1468
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: every day they was pushing each other, even still at

1469
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: the age they were, they were challenging each other iron

1470
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: shopping and iron every day.

1471
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 1: And that motherfuckers to take his shirt off. He looked

1472
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: like a fucking he man. Damn, I look look I'd

1473
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: be at to be trying to eat a burger and

1474
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: that my fucking give me a solad. Well, give me

1475
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: a motherfucker chicken season salad with the motherfucking balsamic. I

1476
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: hate fucking balimon. Want a cheese bird. But so it

1477
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of it kind of you know, motivated us. But

1478
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: you just think me and gave me prot I appreciate you.

1479
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: You have no idea, you have no idea.

1480
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: Appreciate love my brother man, appreciate everything.

1481
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: Shut out to the ol G podcast. You got me

1482
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: the time. And guess what. I ain't signed, no papers,

1483
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: send it, tweeted, do what they want to do it.

1484
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping.

1485
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: Oh Jezu, oh jez I appreciate your brother.

1486
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: My my my my, my my my my my my, my,

1487
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: mam my my