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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get

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Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking to Jonathan Gilliam. He's a

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Speaker 1: former Navy seal and FBI agent. He's been on the

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Speaker 1: show before, but he has a deep expertise in active shooters,

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Speaker 1: security failures, manhunts, and terrorism, all these different things that

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Speaker 1: unfortunately we're seeing around the country right now, from the

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Speaker 1: National Guard shooting, a terror attack that left a National

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Speaker 1: Guard member murdered, to the Brown University mass shooting and

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Speaker 1: the killer still on the run, to what we saw

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Speaker 1: in on bond A Beach in Australia as well. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to ask him a lot of questions about

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, like why haven't they been able to

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Speaker 1: catch the Brown University killer? Is it suspicious about what

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Speaker 1: the killer allegedly said? What do we know about that?

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Speaker 1: Why aren't they telling us more about that? Also, with

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Speaker 1: hundreds of cameras, how do we not have better images

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Speaker 1: of this individual?

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Speaker 2: Does it seem like an expert. I'm going to ask

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Speaker 2: Jonathan all those questions.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about the ice is inspired

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Speaker 1: bond A Beach terror attack, is terrorism on the run,

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Speaker 1: both here in the United States as well as elsewhere

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Speaker 1: in the world. So all these questions and more, I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot stay tuned for. Jonathan Gilliam. Well, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you back on the show. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: like every time you come on, it's.

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Speaker 2: Because something bad to get destruction.

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Speaker 1: I know, I wish we could talk about lighter things,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately, you know, you've got a background protecting our country,

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Speaker 1: so you're the guy to go to for some of

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Speaker 1: these things, so or most of these things.

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Speaker 2: But sorry to have you on when it's always really

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Speaker 2: depressing news.

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Speaker 3: Well it's you know, it is what it is, and

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Speaker 3: that's a part of this world. And the more I

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Speaker 3: look at it, the more information we give people, the

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Speaker 3: better off they'll be. And that's a good thing. So

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Speaker 3: that's the positive spin of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think so too, And you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think most Americans and you know people are really

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Speaker 1: around the world. Right now, we've just seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of things, right you know, you've got the National Guard

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Speaker 1: shooting that you know, calling a terror attack, killing at

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Speaker 1: least one National Guard member. Fortunately the second Andrew Wolf

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Speaker 1: then we have this bond A Beach BONDI Beach terror attack.

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Speaker 1: And then we have Brown University, which we're still figuring

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Speaker 1: out what the heck happened, but let's start with Brown

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Speaker 1: for now. The shooters still at large and it's been days. Now,

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Speaker 1: how is that possible.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's all it's possible because if the individual got away.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say that that all the cameras were in

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Speaker 3: I mean, it would be possible because the individual was

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Speaker 3: it was an anonymous person, yeah, that would be possible.

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Speaker 3: But let's look at the reality of this situation. It's

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Speaker 3: appearing more and more that the university was as rich

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Speaker 3: their camera systems are horrible. It appears that somehow this

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Speaker 3: And then it appears that the police force there, the

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Speaker 3: they don't know how to properly start an investigation for

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Speaker 3: a subject of a crime that just happened where they

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Speaker 3: add to that the incompetence of the mayor the president

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Speaker 3: those things together, and that's how the individuals able to

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Speaker 3: They it's spotty and comes out in bits and pieces

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Speaker 3: unless he's just a random guy walking around with a

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Speaker 3: that doesn't appear to be his behavior. I'm still not

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Speaker 3: But they just have not shared the university and the

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Speaker 3: police and in their briefings, which is a whole nother

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Speaker 3: side note on how bad this nation needs law enforcement

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Speaker 3: and we need particular information to be given to the public.

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Speaker 3: And that's it. And stop making this a political a

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Speaker 3: political grandstanding brief and stop making it in the case

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Speaker 3: of Brown, where they're trying to avoid any type of

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't estimated anywhere from eight hundred to

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred cameras on Brown University's campus. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are asking themselves, how

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Speaker 1: but you would also think surrounding the building, does that

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Speaker 1: what do you kind of make of you know, their

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Speaker 3: So I was a part of investigation in New York

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Speaker 3: after it happened. I inherited the investigation, and it was

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Speaker 3: the Times Square bombing in two thousand and eight, where

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Speaker 3: an individual wrote up on a bicycle after riding all

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Speaker 3: And most people don't even know about that bombing or

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Speaker 3: individual has never been identified. And we have more cameras

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Speaker 3: than boxes of cameras of camera footage. So just because

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Speaker 3: there's cameras doesn't mean that the clarity you need is

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Speaker 3: the same time, they're not placed in the particular places

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Speaker 3: need him to capture. I think ring cameras as you

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Speaker 1: Don't take the point of having all these cameras exactly

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Speaker 1: Like it's like, why even spend the money if they're

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Speaker 3: Well, that's in the security business, you know. And I

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 3: My company's been on tour with a major entertainment tour

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Speaker 3: We do threat assessments and venues every day, big arenas,

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Speaker 3: that's the question we should all be asking why I

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Speaker 3: are important images that were captured. And that's where I

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Speaker 3: one point he has a sling bag on At another

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Speaker 3: find that very odd. Where's that sleen bag? Perhaps that's

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Speaker 3: what they were looking for when the FBI was walking

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Speaker 3: They could ask the public, have you seen this random

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Speaker 3: sling bag sitting around the way the individual is standing?

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Speaker 3: When they he stood, the person stood and was looking around,

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Speaker 3: a very unique trait and one that people notice if

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Speaker 3: they know somebody, What was that individual looking at? Where

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Speaker 3: they looking at that building? Because they arrived at a

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Speaker 3: We're talking about a building that most likely did not

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Speaker 3: other people were shot. Those may have not been. Those

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Speaker 3: So what's the group, what's the class? Was it a

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Speaker 3: special group that was meeting there? And why have they

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Speaker 3: Now know we know their names, but who are they

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Speaker 4: Have they had a run in with anybody?

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Speaker 3: These are questions that should be part of these briefs

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Speaker 3: know them thinking so they can say this is particulars.

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Speaker 3: I've seen reels were people saying that the teacher was

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Speaker 3: a Jewish and that the individual was heard saying al akbar,

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Speaker 3: But we've heard no official reports on that.

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Speaker 2: Is there a reason behind that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we live in the age where leftists

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Speaker 1: would almost rather get killed than actually cracked down on crime.

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Speaker 2: You know, like it's like that insane.

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Speaker 1: So like, is the reason why we're not getting more

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Speaker 1: information at a Brown University and some of these local

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Speaker 1: officials because they're intentionally not disclosing information that would make

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Speaker 1: this appear to be a terror attack? If that's what

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Speaker 1: it is, Like, I don't know, is there a reworld

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Speaker 4: A cover up?

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is Lisa, you know, I would say fifteen

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Speaker 3: years ago, you probably wouldn't have asked that question, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're crazy now or not?

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Speaker 3: But they it is that is that radical that they

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Speaker 3: would I mean, look what they're doing with where the

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Speaker 3: And so as we saw in Pennsylvania with the threat assessment,

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Speaker 3: they're going to feel most likely because they didn't show

440
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Speaker 3: up there saying I want the Great American dream. They

441
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: showed up there because they were fleeing from war. But

442
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: they didn't flee from the Middle East because they hate

443
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: their life. They fled from there because they were in

444
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Speaker 3: the middle of war. And so when you bring them

445
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: into another modern country, it's not a happy place for them.

446
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: They may be able to drink the water, but when

447
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: people don't react and act the way that their culture

448
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: says that they should, then they're going to act out.

449
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: And that's why you're seeing rapes all over the world, murders,

450
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Speaker 3: and I believe what we're seeing now is an increasing

451
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: movement of jihad and terrorism because once those people get

452
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Speaker 3: into a modern country, they are ripe for the picking

453
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: to be radicalized. And that is despite the amount of

454
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: people that have been pushed all over this world, the

455
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Speaker 3: people who are going around and radicalizing or recruiting them

456
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Speaker 3: to fundamentalism that has not been forced. That is the

457
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: way that groups like Iran hamas isis al Qaeda, they

458
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: purposely put the recruiters all over the world so they

459
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Speaker 3: can then go in and preach hate and radicalized these people.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're.

461
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Speaker 1: Committing suicide by allowing all these people into our country.

462
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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean yes.

463
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Speaker 3: And again I brought up the southern border last year,

464
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Speaker 3: well actually this year, but this is a perfect thing.

465
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Speaker 3: This year I was in Mexico with a tour and

466
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Speaker 3: we were down there for a month. The year before that,

467
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Speaker 3: and the year before that, I was in Mexico before

468
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: Trump was back in office, and we were there for

469
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: a month. Both of those times and the previous two years,

470
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 3: at three in the morning, the whole tour would go

471
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: to an airport and it would be like rush hour

472
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Speaker 3: in Manhattan. The airports at obscure small airports in Mexico

473
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: were packed to the brim, and most of those people

474
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: were coming to the United States. And I don't think

475
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: people realize how many people came over the border legally,

476
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Speaker 3: not illegally.

477
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Speaker 4: They came over illegally.

478
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Speaker 3: Because they went and signed that got on that app

479
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: and got the ability to get here or in other

480
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Speaker 3: cases to get closer to the border where they just

481
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: walked over, in which.

482
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Speaker 2: Case fifty one and I talk got yeah.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

484
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Speaker 3: So this year when we went to Mexico, the same

485
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: airport's same time, nobody was there. It was a typical

486
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: empty Mexican airport. So when you think about that and

487
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: you think about people, those people cannot afford they were

488
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: showing up. The people I saw on the airport, they

489
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: didn't have luggage, they were dirty, and they had plane

490
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: tickets that cost you know, hundreds, if not thousands of

491
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Speaker 3: dollars to fly into the United States.

492
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Speaker 4: So the fact that that.

493
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Speaker 3: Stuff was was not only allowed to happen, but was

494
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: paid for by groups or people leftists to make this happen.

495
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: Al Qaeda isis Iran would take advantage of the same

496
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: exact thing to put recruiters all over the world because

497
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: they knew that their people were coming in.

498
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Speaker 2: I don't understand why.

499
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Speaker 1: It's like we're letting people into our house who we

500
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Speaker 1: know want to destroy it. Common sons like you wouldn't

501
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: invite someone into your home if you know knowing that

502
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Speaker 1: they're going to come in and start like, you know,

503
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Speaker 1: throwing your glasses against the wall and like kicking your

504
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: table over, and you know, like taking a sledgehammer to

505
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: your house.

506
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Speaker 2: But yet that's essentially what we're doing to America.

507
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: Well, these people, as we were talking about earlier at

508
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: Brown University, they think differently. Culture is everything. As I

509
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: go around the world, the one thing I've noticed is

510
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: that culture can kill a community or a country or

511
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: a nation, or it can make it great. And I

512
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: would say that the leftist culture has kind a foothold

513
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 3: almost everywhere I've gone on the other side, conservative or

514
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 3: not even conservative, but people morals and ethics and people

515
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: who are loving and kind has has really.

516
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: Become more of the my.

517
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: And in large part because of social media, that people

518
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: who want good things to happen and work hard, they

519
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: come home and get on social media and they grumble

520
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: and that's all they do. They don't even they don't

521
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: even go to the voting poles anymore, hardly at all,

522
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: you know. So they come out for president in this country,

523
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: but the midterms, conservatives are the people who are not

524
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: Liberals refuse to go to the polls and vote. So

525
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: as I'm going around the world, this leftist culture was

526
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: first secreted into and now it's just is really the

527
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: majority almost everywhere I go and wherever they are, that

528
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: is where this attitude and this weird thought process of

529
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: global community. And by global community, they just mean anybody

530
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: can go anywhere they want. It's not like they're loving

531
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: and say, you know, the whole thing about migration that

532
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: with the left, it's not about love. It's about letting

533
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: people go wherever they want and thinking that the cultures

534
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: that they don't like are the bad ones. And strangely enough,

535
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: typically as you see, the cultures they hate are the

536
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: freest cultures with morals and essays. So it's you know,

537
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: all I can chalk it up to is it's the

538
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 3: same lie that happened in the garden of Eden, and

539
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: it's happening right now, and the human beings are doing

540
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: the same gullible thing in believing the lie.

541
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Speaker 4: Quick break.

542
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Speaker 1: If you like what you're hearing, please shore on social

543
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: media or send it to your family and friends.

544
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: So I guess what do we do?

545
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, how hard is it for like the FB,

546
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: when you have that many legal aliens in the country

547
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: and then you have that many people are are you

548
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: living here susceptible to radicalization?

549
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: Like how do you stop tax?

550
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you're going to be able

551
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: to stop attacks. This is another good point about these

552
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: stupid briefs that are happening at Brown University is that

553
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 3: the mayor came out and said made the point of

554
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: saying that there's no known threat. Okay, that is the

555
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: dumbest thing that hear law enforcement say on a regular basis.

556
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: There's no known threat. There was no known threat on

557
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: nine ten, two thousand and one. There's no known threat.

558
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: The day before that individual walked into Brown University and

559
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: shot to two people to death and wounded eight others.

560
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Speaker 4: You can't.

561
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: You're not going to be able to stop attacks just

562
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: by going off of whether they're no the threat is known,

563
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: or it's not. So I think if we want to

564
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: make this nation safer, let's take the drug epidemic for instance,

565
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: maybe you might want to go out and really start

566
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: cracking down on drug dealers and then promoting, like they

567
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: did in the eighties, young people not to use drugs

568
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: and really making the penalties stiff enough where people just

569
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: won't do it, instead of legalizing it or legalizing a

570
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: lot of it and then giving people who are capitalists

571
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: the ability to go in and manufacture clean drugs for people.

572
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's got to be one of the other,

573
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: because right now we have a violence and a drug problem.

574
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: So if you and I'm not saying I'm all about

575
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: legal as of drugs, but doing nothing is where we

576
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: are right now. And it's the same thing when it

577
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: comes to terrorism and violence, especially leftists and Islamic violence,

578
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: which if you don't know anything about the Red Green Alliance,

579
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: you should look that up because Islam and Marxism or

580
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: communism have worked hand in hand for many many A

581
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: long time. I mean we're talking one hundred years or more,

582
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: and so wherever you see one, you're you're probably going

583
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: to see the other.

584
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: That's why.

585
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: Sagan what aligns them so much ideologically.

586
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: Because they're both they're both dependent on control, and so

587
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: they work naturally together. I think that I think I

588
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: don't really know exactly. It's hard to tell what goes

589
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: on in the minds of I know why the Islamic

590
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: function of faction would function with them is because they

591
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: see the Left is like another criminal element that would

592
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: be able to that can assist them because they're in power.

593
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: And that's that's always been the case. You've always seen

594
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: throughout history the progressives, and that's really that's the reality

595
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: of who the left actually is is the bulk of

596
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: the left are progressive. And I'm trying to be short

597
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: winded on this because I know we don't go too long,

598
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: but it's a very fascinating subject when you look at it.

599
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: But what it does is when we look at Islam

600
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: and we look at the left and the Red Green Alliance,

601
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: what we see is that there are the pathways are

602
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: opened for these people to get in and manipulate social

603
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: cultures and so that is how this is spreading so

604
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: fast and the foothold that it has is being able

605
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: to progress so.

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Speaker 4: Quickly before we go.

607
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Speaker 2: Do you think they'll catch the Brown killer.

608
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Speaker 3: I think that eventually that person is going to be known.

609
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: I think that somebody is going to realize that. I

610
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: don't know if the person will go around and say, hey,

611
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: I did that, perhaps they will, but I think they'll

612
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: they'll eventually be caught because they have to have known

613
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: people that were there.

614
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: There's a reason why they.

615
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Chose that particular place, and if it comes out that

616
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: it was ideological, then I think that will probably eventually

617
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: come out because they will want people to know that

618
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: they that was done in the name of this. If

619
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Speaker 3: it was personal, I think that that relationship will eventually

620
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: come out. So I think that's probably where they're going

621
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: to eventually find them. If it's not for CAM, if

622
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: they don't come up with some technology or some DNA

623
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: that they found somewhere, then I think it's going to

624
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: be through a relationship or an ideology that that basically

625
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: makes this person known.

626
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Speaker 1: Donathan appreciate your time, thanks for breaking this all down,

627
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and we pray that they catch the killer.

628
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: That we learn more about him or her.

629
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Speaker 4: Got listen. I apologize I'm long winded, but as I always.

630
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Speaker 1: Say, but oh, this is a place to do it

631
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Speaker 1: because you don't have commrcial breaks.

632
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's it's not a What we're talking

633
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: about is it's not rocket science, whether it's the tack

634
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: itself or all these things that are going on like

635
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: in Bondi Beach, which we you know, I really didn't

636
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: even get into that. But the reality is with with

637
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: all of these things and the spread of these terrorist attacks,

638
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with this Red

639
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: Green alliance and Islam riding the coattails of the leftists.

640
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: And now we see in this nation leftists like we

641
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: saw the attack foild in California by leftists that call

642
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: themselves Turtle Beach or not Turtle Beach but Turtle Island

643
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: Liberation Front. We are seeing the same type of tactics

644
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: that have been used by Islam and by the fundamental

645
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: Muslims that are that are going out and pursuing terrorism.

646
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: We're seeing that now on the left. And it's another

647
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: example how they share tactics, techniques, and procedures verbiage. You

648
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: see the left taking up for Hamas and then you

649
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: see both of them sharing the same verbiage and tactics

650
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: and probably training.

651
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: And I think if the FBI gets into this and.

652
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: Starts looking beyond the responsive investigations, if the FBI starts

653
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: being proactive and starts hunting, they will find that these

654
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: Islamic attackers, the groups that they are with, and the

655
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: leftists and the groups that they are with, are most

656
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: likely working together and funded and trained by a lot of.

657
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 4: The same people.

658
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Speaker 1: Jonathan, appreciate your time. Thanks for breaking this down for us.

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Speaker 4: You got at least to take care and gobblin.

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Speaker 2: That was Jonathan Gilliam.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You can listen throughout the week. I also want to

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Speaker 1: thank my producer, John Cassio for putting the show together.

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Speaker 2: Until next time,