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Speaker 1: That's the main thing. While I'm on hold, I thought

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Speaker 1: I really need to say this to the Buffalo Bills,

431
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Speaker 1: and I used to cover them years ago for a station.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I just want to say thank you from

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Speaker 1: the top, from ownership to the front office, to the players,

434
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Speaker 1: to every one of them for helping me and a

435
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Speaker 1: lot of my friends and family through the last couple

436
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Speaker 1: of years. It I can't begin to explain how I've

437
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 1: got goosebumps right now just thinking about it. How when

438
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: things were totally sideways for everybody in our whole country,

439
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: for them to give me something to tune in at

440
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: one o'clock on Sunday or night game, whatever it happened

441
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: to be, to just take our minds off the negative.

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00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: And these guys, oh my god, unbelievable excitement. I started

443
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: following them when I was a kid. I was three

444
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: years old when they came into being in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: kind of off and on. But now the excitement I

446
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Speaker 1: can't really even put into words how much I appreciate

447
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Speaker 1: you guys for help and all of us stay sane. Well, Glenn,

448
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: I thank you for that. That's an awesome comment. Thanks

449
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Speaker 1: for calling in. It's always great to hear something like that.

450
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: I completely agree with what he said. It was amazing

451
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Speaker 1: to have the bills to work for and to cheer

452
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Speaker 1: four and to pass the time when we were all

453
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Speaker 1: in quarantine and the past two years with COVID. Hopefully

454
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: this year is way different than years past. Hopefully the

455
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Speaker 1: NFL and the world continues to open up more and

456
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: more and more. But his player breakout player for twenty

457
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Speaker 1: twenty two, Dane Jackson A good choice there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like that a lot because I think that if you

459
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Speaker 1: looked around, you know, if you looked at both sides

460
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Speaker 1: of the ball all twenty two here, if you will,

461
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Speaker 1: the one can census spot where people are probably wondering

462
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Speaker 1: who's going to start. It's a corner opposite Tredivious White,

463
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Speaker 1: and right now it's probably Dane Jackson, right, probably Penciliman. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: but I mean it's the one spot where people say,

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Speaker 1: you could maybe still have somebody challenger, could you bring

466
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Speaker 1: a rookie and could you draft them one at twenty

467
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Speaker 1: five is you're still veteran out there, you could sign

468
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Speaker 1: and if Dan Jackson does start, does have that breakout year,

469
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Speaker 1: that will solve a lot of those questions. Right. But Unfortunately,

470
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Speaker 1: we don't know that. I think the coaching staff has

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Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Dan Jackson. Yeah, did you

472
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Speaker 1: did you call radio shows like talk shows like this

473
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Speaker 1: when you were I did not. My dad used to,

474
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Speaker 1: and I think still does. He's in Chicago, but he

475
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: would call into shows when he was younger and just

476
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Speaker 1: driving home from work, listening to Chicago sports talk radio

477
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Speaker 1: or listening in after Bears losses. That was my favorite

478
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Speaker 1: time to listen in to sports talk radio. I mean,

479
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: the Bears have been terrible for a long time, and

480
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: so I would go home when I wasn't working in

481
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Speaker 1: the NFL, I would be able to go home sometimes

482
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Speaker 1: and was home over weekend during football season, and he

483
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Speaker 1: would just be like, we have to turn on sports

484
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: talk radio because these calls are about to be off

485
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Speaker 1: the wall hilarious with how angry people are at the

486
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, at the team, and so it so much

487
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Speaker 1: entertainment from listening to angry Chicago Bears fans call in

488
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Speaker 1: to sports talk radio shows. The reason I bring it

489
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Speaker 1: up is the was it Glenn who called? Right Glenn?

490
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Speaker 1: And he said that he forgot He's on the whole

491
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Speaker 1: of this train of thought. Right, Well, so Maddie, Like,

492
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Speaker 1: I used to listen to a lot of sports talk

493
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Speaker 1: radio and people in Buffalo would remember the name Art Wander.

494
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Speaker 1: He was a big sports talk show host. And I

495
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: used to call this show all the time. And I

496
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: was in high school, and I trained myself because the

497
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: same thing would happen. I literally would take a piece

498
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Speaker 1: of paper and him stuff. I'd write down what was

499
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Speaker 1: on my mind training for this job. I guess right

500
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: when I was back then and doing that, and then

501
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Speaker 1: I would actually call it and I dare check myself

502
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Speaker 1: and go back and how did I sound on the air.

503
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Speaker 1: But that's the trick, man, when you're gonna call, if

504
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be on hold, like we might not be

505
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Speaker 1: able to get to, you gotta be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: write down what you think about that. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Owners meetings last week, I'm sitting there and there's a

508
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Speaker 1: reception going on Monday night and all these people are

509
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: hanging out and having drinks and eating and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And I sit next to this this older couple, very

511
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Speaker 1: nice gentleman and his wife, and they have their lanyard

512
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Speaker 1: on and it has a Chicago Bears logo, and I'm

513
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Speaker 1: just like I like talking to anybody, right. So I

514
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: was like, hey, how are you know? I start talking,

515
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Speaker 1: I said, bears huh. And I knew. I knew I

516
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Speaker 1: would regret saying this right away in a way would

517
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Speaker 1: make me sound kind of stupid. I go, and what

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Speaker 1: do you do? And I said, wait a minute, I

519
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Speaker 1: bet you you like I look at the name. It

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00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: says McCaskey. It says McCaskey, one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the owners, family members of the owners. Anyway, it was funny.

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Speaker 1: We had a little laugh. We struck up a conversation.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly who it was. I'll have to

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Speaker 1: go back and look and look at their you know,

525
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Speaker 1: ownership whatever. But it was one of the mccaskey's and

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Speaker 1: his wife, and we started talking a little just about

527
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Speaker 1: life and football. Was kind of, yeah, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: I feel like during the offseason you have different things

529
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Speaker 1: or different events that happen, whether it be the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: or whether it be owners meetings, or whether it be

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Speaker 1: the combine that there's just so many people in the

532
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Speaker 1: room that are usually never in the room together, or

533
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Speaker 1: are rarely in the room together. I'm sure a lot

534
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Speaker 1: of cool people to talk to a lot of cool

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Speaker 1: people to meet. But we're going to go back to

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Speaker 1: the phone lines. Brian from Iowa, I'm gonna go to you. Brian,

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Speaker 1: you're on with us. What's up? Hey? I was just uh,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna make a pitch. I heard you

539
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Speaker 1: guys talking about interior linement. Cornerback wasn't available. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thought. Okay, so Tyler linden Ball is possible, might

541
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Speaker 1: drop down to you know, somewhere in the thirties. He's

542
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Speaker 1: the best run grade center in the Big Ten. In

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Speaker 1: the last three years. He's actually went five points higher

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Speaker 1: than Tristan Worse when he went out. I remember when

545
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Speaker 1: he came into block for Tom Brady. Well, this guy's

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Speaker 1: Tyler linden Ball. He had the point five great higher

547
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: than than Tristan Worse. So I think maybe w we

548
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: could draft him, protect Josh on the inside, move him

549
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Speaker 1: over to guard since we had Mitch Morris resigned, and

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Speaker 1: then what do you think I mean? That would be

551
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: a pretty dang good offensive line. If Tyler Linderbaum is

552
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Speaker 1: available at number twenty five in most mock drafts I've seen,

553
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna go before that. But thanks for calling in.

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00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: What do you think about Tyler Linderbaum. A funny tidbit

555
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Speaker 1: here is he's an Iowa guy and Sean mcdermotich just

556
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: loves his Iowa guys. I mean, Micah Hyde, aj Epanessa.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I was i was actually a really

558
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: good program to come out of you know, And I

559
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: mean they've had great coaching and they do they It's

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00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of I feel like Iowa is

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Speaker 1: run like an NFL program in a lot of ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of those guys come into

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Speaker 1: the league and they're expected to kind of contribute. And

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Speaker 1: think of all the tight ends that came out of

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Speaker 1: Iowa too recently, I've had to run on tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean, look, if this team has if

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Speaker 1: this team can get their hands on someone as as

568
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Speaker 1: good as him, um, it's hard to pass up. However,

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Speaker 1: I will say Mitch Moose obviously did just resign. You know,

570
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Speaker 1: he said at center for the next few years. You

571
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: do like the position flexibility if you want to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that. Um. Linnenbaum, by the way, the

573
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Remington Trophy winner a unanimous All American last year, So

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Speaker 1: I doubt he'll be there. That position you never know,

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00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean, and you can start to move guys around,

576
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: and the Bills do love their position flexibility. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: been somebody that hasn't been mocked to the Buffalo Bills.

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00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: But he is a name that I have heard talked

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Speaker 1: about amongst NFL analysts when you talk about the number

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Speaker 1: twenty five pick. If he was available, that would be

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00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: maybe a nice pick for the Bills if they could

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: move him over to guards. So definitely a big name

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Speaker 1: there in the twenty twenty two NFL drafts. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here. When we come back,

585
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: we'll dip into the tweet sheet, possibly answer some phone calls,

586
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: talk about who we want to break out on defense

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00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: this season. One Bills Live is presented by Kalidah Health

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00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back here on One Bills

589
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Speaker 1: Live Tuesday afternoon. I hear it's great outside. It's feeling nice.

590
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: The sun is out. We are kind of blocked in

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00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: here in the studio. It's really dark, but I'm excited

592
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: to get outside after the show. I love this time

593
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: of year when it starts to warm up. But it's

594
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: almost like Buffalo loves to just like give us taste

595
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: of nice weather and then they just rip it, rip

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00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: it away, and then it snows. Yea, hopefully you were

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: done with the snow, you know last year, like like

598
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: right around this time last year, like five straight days

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00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: when the seventies and even eighties a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and then it got down again into like the forties

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00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: for a few It was crazy. But that's Buffalo. That's

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah. I was in California a couple of

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: weeks ago, drove down the coast of California, so of

604
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: course it's going to be cold in northern California. But

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00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: we drove all the way down to La and I'm thinking,

606
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, California for a week and escape terrible weather.

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be in the sun, to be in

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00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: warm weather. It was basically as cold as Buffalo in

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00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: northern California. It was freezing in southern califor Cournia. I

610
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: might be whining a little bit here, but it was

611
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: like sixty and cloudy, and because there's no humidity, it

612
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: felt like it was in the forties or the fifties.

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Speaker 1: So I haven't gotten to get into any good weather yet.

614
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: As we're in April, soon to be May, so hopefully

615
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo can just get going on that we can some

616
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Speaker 1: of the best spring. Yeah, so we have some of

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Speaker 1: the best like summers and falls. Oh my gosh. The country,

618
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: there's not about it. It's the place to be during

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Speaker 1: the summer. When I first moved here, you know, you

620
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: put a lot of your vacations in the off season

621
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Speaker 1: and in summer, and people are like, I'm just gonna

622
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Speaker 1: give you a little pro tip here. Do not book

623
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Speaker 1: a lot of vacations for the summer because you want

624
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Speaker 1: to be in Buffalo during the summer because that's when

625
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: we have our best weather. That's right, Yes, now, I

626
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: know that's right. You got to you gotta be a

627
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Speaker 1: you know, available during the summer to do all that

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Speaker 1: stuff because what we do for a living. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, like you know, as the summer gets on,

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Speaker 1: training camp, that's like the best time of year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. All right, We've got a bunch of callers

632
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Speaker 1: waiting on the line. We're gonna go to Judy and Buffalo. First, Judy,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Good? Thank you? I think

634
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: are the changes on the offensive line that they've made

635
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is going to improve. What

636
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I would like to know is, because I haven't read

637
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: too much about it, they made significant changes with the

638
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: coaching personnel. Can you bring me up to date on that. Yeah,

639
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: we'll bring you up to date on that. Thanks for

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00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the call, Judy. Well. Let's start with some of the

641
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: biggest changes. I mean, we talked about Ken Dorsey being

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Speaker 1: promoted to offensive coordinator, not necessarily a new name, a

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00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: familiar face who's moving into a new position from offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Smiley also moving into the special teams coordinator position.

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Speaker 1: He was the assistant special team's coach last season. Heath

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00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Farwell is now gone, so Matthew Smiley moves into that role.

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Speaker 1: And the fun thing about Matthew Smiley is that he

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Speaker 1: was actually on staff before Heath Farwell came along, So

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Speaker 1: he knows the special teams players really well, knows this

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00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: roster really well. Um, the guys love him. Bobby Babbage

651
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: moves over to linebackers coach because his dad, Bob Babbitch, retired. Um,

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Speaker 1: so Bobby was with safety. Yeah, Bobby was with safety,

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Speaker 1: so he's staying within the defense. Um, let's see Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady gets added to the staff as the quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm really really excited about this. Higher I've gotten to

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Speaker 1: meet Joe Brady. He is an awesome guy. He came

657
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Speaker 1: um from the Panthers, where he was their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's very well known for being on LSU's coaching staff

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Speaker 1: when they won the national championship, made that run there.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Brady, I'm excited to see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Aaron Kromer offensive line coach. He's also a

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Speaker 1: familiar face for Bills fans because he was on the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. What year was that Aaron Kromer was here? Uh,

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Speaker 1: he was right before, right before Sean McDermott was hired

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, righteen sixteen. Yes, So so many good things

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00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: have been said about Aaron Kromer. A lot of excitement there,

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Speaker 1: I think as well for him being the offensive line coach. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's see Jim Selgatto moved over to safety's he was

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Speaker 1: the nickel coach, so he moves into where Bobby Babbitt

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Speaker 1: used to be coaching. Mike Schula we talked about yesterday

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Speaker 1: as the senior offensive assistant. I think that is pretty

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Speaker 1: much the highlight of the Yeah, they did hire anybody.

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Speaker 1: They hired a couple of quality control coaches. Jalen Finner

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Speaker 1: as a defensive quality control coach. Kyle Schumer also on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side quality control, which is interesting because he

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Speaker 1: was a quarterback. Yeah, right, So he's gonna be working

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side, which is cool because he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to give perspective from a quarterback's perspective

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Speaker 1: on what's going on in the defense in place versa

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Speaker 1: a little bit as he's moves over on that side.

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Speaker 1: And he was hired there. Corey Harkey assistant special teams

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Speaker 1: coordinator under Matthew Smiley. Corey Arkey's dad is the Yankees

683
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Speaker 1: bullpen coach, also played for the Chicago Cubs. There you go,

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Speaker 1: that's right him, Mike Harkey. He is actually So that's

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00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: an obviously an athletic family, right there, both of it

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Speaker 1: involved in professional sports. Nick Lacey is hired as a

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Speaker 1: strength and conditioning assistant coach. Austin Gunn is the new

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Speaker 1: Fellowship coach. And how about Eric Washington, We should give

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Speaker 1: him a little love here, who's promoted to senior defensive

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Speaker 1: assistant as adding on to his defensive line coach duties. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so if you forgot about some of those names, didn't

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Speaker 1: realize how many changes happen. That's a little rundown of

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Speaker 1: all the additions, all the changes to the Bill's coaching

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Speaker 1: staff as we approach the twenty twenty two season. Going

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Speaker 1: to go back to the phone lines here, we've got

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Speaker 1: Jerry from Ken Moore on with us. Jerry, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about today? A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: A draft. First of all, I really don't unders understand

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Speaker 1: people's fascination with running back. It's not how you win

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00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: in this league anymore. The best running backs in the

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00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: league actually keep you from winning because when you have

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00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: to feed a bell cow back, you don't throw the ball,

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00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: which is the method of winning in the league right now,

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: Look at the best running backs in the league, gush,

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00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: you're none of them were in the playoffs or got

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: eliminated very early. Do you know how the top twenty

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00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: five rushers of all time, only nine of them have rings,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is Shady McCoy, who didn't play

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Speaker 1: in either Super Bowl that he was in. It's not

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Speaker 1: a real method of winning games anymore. I would be

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Speaker 1: shocked if they didn't take a corner or a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Because this is a smart coaching staff and management group.

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Speaker 1: You draft people at the highest price positions because you

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Speaker 1: want expensive players on rookie contracts for as long as possible.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with a lot of what Jerry said.

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Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Jerry

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Speaker 1: in the position value, and I think the Bills share

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Speaker 1: that just how I've operated, and we went back to

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Speaker 1: this with Devin Singletary is a third round pick and

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss a third round pick. Now, look, I do

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Speaker 1: think you're in a position now, though Jerry will say

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Speaker 1: though they're in a position where they feel they have

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Speaker 1: one guy that if they can add that extra element

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Speaker 1: to their offense or even defense for that matter, that

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Speaker 1: maybe you say now is the time to strike. But

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Speaker 1: I think generally overall, I agree with you, and the

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Speaker 1: game has changed. This is a pass heavy team. They

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Speaker 1: want to keep the ball in Josh Allen's hands. And

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Speaker 1: I'll also throw this out. If you take a running

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Speaker 1: back in the first round, I think there is pressure

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Speaker 1: on a team, any team, to give that running back

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Speaker 1: a second contract once that first contracts over. And that's

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Speaker 1: when you're talking a lot of money and you don't

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Speaker 1: really want to go down that road. Yeah, Jerry, do

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Speaker 1: you have any names that you like at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: or cornerback in the draft? Honestly, I think we might

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Speaker 1: move Tremaine Edmunds on draft Day and move up and

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get the corner from Cincinnati somehow, Kobe Bryant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, I think that's the corner is talking about, right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. There a lot of talk about Tremaine.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it necessarily from this organization. They feel

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00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: so good about him and where he is and what

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Speaker 1: he means to the defense. I understand that even the

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Speaker 1: Bills have said, like they would like to see more

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: game changing plays. Yeah, But we media and fans a

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00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: lot of times don't see the things that Brandon Bean

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott and Leslie Fraser talk about Tremaine Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: how valuable he is to what the defense does, and

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Speaker 1: he is your starting mental linebacker on a team that

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Speaker 1: has favored to win the Super Bowl. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you voluntarily just move him off the team, you are

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Speaker 1: getting weaker there. And I don't know if that's something

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00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: they really want to do right now. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: talking about Sauce Gardner was, oh, I'm sorry, that's right

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00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: there you go, that's Sauce's way up there. Sauce will

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Speaker 1: not be available for the Buffalo Bills at number twenty

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Speaker 1: five if they decide to stay at number twenty five.

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00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, Simus Kobe Bryant, I'm sorry, that's the That's

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Speaker 1: that's why I was thinking of my apologies. No, all good.

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Speaker 1: There's so many different corners that could go off the

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Speaker 1: board in the first round of this year's NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Um Sauce Gardner Derek Stanley are the two big names

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Speaker 1: that should go way earlier before the Bills are available

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Speaker 1: at number twenty five. Who could drop to the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Could Trent McDuffie be available then? Andrew Booth Junior has

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Speaker 1: been a popular name. Kayer Elam from Florida, the names

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: go on. Kyler Gordon from Washington are our names that

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Speaker 1: I've all seen being mocked to the Buffalo Bills at

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Speaker 1: number twenty five. That that conversation about Tremaine Edmunds moving

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Speaker 1: on or deciding to trade Tremaine and get up in

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft of I think it's an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sold on it because, like you said, this

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Speaker 1: team is projected by many people to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: to make it to the Super Bowl, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think you make it all the way there without Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmonds on your roster. I think he catches a lot

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Speaker 1: of flak from people, but he is what linebackers look

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Speaker 1: like in today's NFL, or what you want linebackers to

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00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: look like if you don't have one. He makes other

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Speaker 1: people's lives so much easier. You talk to the secondary,

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Speaker 1: you talk to the defensive line about what Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: does you talk about. You talk to Matt Milano about

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Speaker 1: how he makes Matt's life easier. You rarely find a

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Speaker 1: player who has those physical traits in that physical makeup.

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Speaker 1: I bet you you're going to get a lot of answers.

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds answered to the question today, Yeah, what defensive

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Speaker 1: player do you want to have a breakout season? Because

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Speaker 1: I feel that even though he's made two Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Bills fans don't feel he's had that

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Speaker 1: breakout season, and I would tend to agree. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been a good player Tremaine Edmands has been good.

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Speaker 1: He's a good football player. I don't think he's elevated

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Speaker 1: to that, oh my god, breakout superstardom type of linebacker.

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Speaker 1: But Matty, you make a great point about like there

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Speaker 1: he There are a lot of things he does that

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Speaker 1: make everything kind of that you don't see, and one

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00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: of them is I think his length in his range

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Speaker 1: really do affect the passing game. He's not a great

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Speaker 1: one on one cover linebacker, but he's very good in

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Speaker 1: zone and part of it is he's so long and wide.

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Speaker 1: Receiver runs at Tremaine Edmonds and wants to turn around,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of room to do it

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Speaker 1: because Tremaine Edmunds is there and he's got that wingspan

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Speaker 1: and he's athletic. So I think for that reason he

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Speaker 1: does impact how quarterbacks see the field and have to

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Speaker 1: maybe go away from that read particular or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is maybe not a star player, but you definitely

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Speaker 1: have to look out for Tremade Edmonds when you're scheming,

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Speaker 1: scheming up against the Buffalo Bill's defense because of his length,

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Speaker 1: because of what he can do. Do you think he's

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Speaker 1: hindered at all because of what he's asked to do

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Speaker 1: by the coaching staff. Do you think that could be

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Speaker 1: a reason why he hasn't broken out yet because of

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Speaker 1: the responsibilities that he has to this defense. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if hindered the right word, but I know where

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Speaker 1: you're going, and I would say this, this is not

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Speaker 1: a defense that's predicated upon middle linebackers making a bunch

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Speaker 1: of tackles by going just basically taking on going, shooting

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Speaker 1: the a gaps and that kind of way. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: wanted to make tackles. This is a defense predicated upon

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Speaker 1: the guys in front keeping those guys clean so they

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Speaker 1: can go sideline to sideline. The Bills want athletic linebackers

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Speaker 1: because they want to be able to play in today's NFL,

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Speaker 1: where everything is sideline to sideline. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: athletes on the off You have to cover these tight

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Speaker 1: ends who are very fast, have to cover these receivers

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Speaker 1: who are all different different sizes and different speeds and

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Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, I think because of the

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Speaker 1: Bill's particular scheme, it takes away from his numbers, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it takes away from I think that's

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Speaker 1: what they want. They want him to be able to

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Speaker 1: do so many things. They're not looking for a Ray

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Speaker 1: Lewis to be, you know, leading the league and tackles

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Speaker 1: and blowing things up from a gap to a gap.

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Speaker 1: That's not what this mental linebacker is asked to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's what my argument is a lot with Tremaine

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Speaker 1: because of what he's asked to do. He made. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he needs to have those pop off, those those splash plays,

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Speaker 1: but maybe he's not a linebacker that's going to have

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Speaker 1: three of those one of those every game because of

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Speaker 1: where he fits in with his responsibilities on defense. I

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Speaker 1: think he's asked to do a lot with the position

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Speaker 1: that he plays in that maybe limits some of those things.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: We've got Bruce Feldman coming up at two o'clock, a

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Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic. We're going to get into his

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Speaker 1: freaks list and his latest NFL mock draft, So stick

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00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: enjoying some vacation time. We know where Steve Tasker is

853
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: because it's been all over social media. Steve Tasker lucky

854
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: enough to go to Italy and meet up with our

855
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: friends from Buffalo Bills Backers Italy. So we know Buffalo

856
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: Bills Bills Mafia. They are worldwide. There are fans in

857
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: so many different countries that watch Bills games, that support

858
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: the Bills, that are part of Bill's Mafia, and Bills

859
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: Backers Italy is a group on Twitter that is very,

860
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: very active. So they met up with Steve Tasker and

861
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: Steve actually went to a soccer game, a football game

862
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: I should call it, in Milan, Italy. Rhino's Milano is

863
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: the name of the team. He was their honorary captain

864
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: for the day, got to take the take the atmosphere

865
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: the game in with his friends at Bill's Backers Italy.

866
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Got to meet a bunch of those guys who are

867
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: very vocal on Twitter, um always tweeting at us, always

868
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: tweeting at the Bills, always supporting Bill's Mafia. So it's

869
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: been really fun to see them detail Steve's trip. To

870
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: see those pictures, it's so cool. When you get to

871
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: meet people from across the world that have a common

872
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: interest with you, that's so awesome. I hope he brings

873
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: that flag back. That's a cool looking flag, that Italy

874
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: flag with the Bill's logo on it, right, I want

875
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: one of those. That's really nice. So I hope he

876
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: brings it back because that's super cool. And what a

877
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: throat for those those people, those guys in lay to

878
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: meet Steve, and you know, to get a chance to

879
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: meet one of the Buffalo Bill's legends. You know, I

880
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: say all the time, how how lucky we are, privilege

881
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: we are. And I grew up here and I watched

882
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Steve growing up. I went to games, and I'm like, yeah,

883
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: Steve's one of my heroes growing up, like Thurman. And

884
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: now you work in the same industry and you're on

885
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: set with them and you do radio with them, and

886
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's you're trying not to take it for

887
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: granted because of that. To see that right there, what

888
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: we're watching, that's amazing. That is awesome for anybody watching

889
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: on the On the TV side, dude literally wrote eighty

890
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: nine with a Tasker nameplate on his marker, and Steve's

891
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: signing his bear back. It's amazing some intense Bills fans

892
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: there in Italy. We love you Bills backers Italy. We

893
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: love your Twitter account. We love all the support that

894
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: you guys give Buffalo. Yeah, Steve Tasker is a big name.

895
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: When I got my job here with the Bills, my

896
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: dad was like, um, yeah, Steve Tasker's big name who

897
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: I remember from growing up watching footb ball. And then

898
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: a couple weeks later, I was like, yeah, I met

899
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and I'm going to do a lot of

900
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: stuff with him. He works on the media team here

901
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: with the Bills, does a lot of stuff with their broadcast, radio, broadcast,

902
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: you name it. He's always been around, and my dad

903
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: thought that was super cool that I get to work

904
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: with a name like Steve Tasker. He's an awesome guy.

905
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: We love Steven. When we opened the show and have

906
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: the clips of Steve and you just realize again I

907
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: know how great he was. I remember the first time

908
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: I saw like the open for one Bills Live, I

909
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: got like chills watching it. I mean, you watch some

910
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: of these these highlights and plays and again these these

911
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: these people who you know, they know who the Bills

912
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: are they know who the Steve Tasker is, what he's

913
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: meant to this organization. Yeah, it's awesome to be able

914
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: to see that. So good for Steve to be able

915
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: to go and visit them. I think it's cool that

916
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: he took the time to do all that. I think

917
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: one thing that's also super fun with Steve is when

918
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: you have some of our current special teamers talk about

919
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Tasker as someone that they look up to. I know

920
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: when we signed to Ran Neil and he had his

921
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: press conference earlier this offseason, it feels like forever ago,

922
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. Steve was in here. I was doing

923
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: the show with Steve Surrand. Neil came on to talk

924
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: about the extension, and Surran was talking about Steve's playing

925
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: days and how he looks up to someone like Steve

926
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Tasker and what he could do on special teams and

927
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: wants to be like Steve Tasker. So I think that's

928
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: always so cool when you have players of today showing

929
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: respect talking about guys like Steve Tasker, people from the

930
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: nineties who who they look up to. Yeah, so good

931
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: job on him to be able to do all that,

932
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: and uh, that's cool. We're gonna have to get some

933
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: stories when he comes back. I know, I'm excited for

934
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: the stories that will come. We are both also going

935
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: to go to Italy uh this summer, so maybe we'll

936
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: have to also try and meet up with some of

937
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: the Bill's backers there in Italy. UM, popular players together.

938
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: You're going separately, it's my honeymoon there you go. We

939
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: might overlap though we were talking about this. We're gonna

940
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: be in the same area. We're going on a um,

941
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: we're going on a little European cruise, your wife are

942
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: going and Max and Max Max getting in a cool trip.

943
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: Max is eight and he's been to Europe three times already. What, Um, well,

944
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: my wife was from Germany and he actually forget he

945
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: was actually in They came over to London when the

946
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Bills played there in fifteen and they were there for

947
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: a few days. And yeah, he is worldwide. He was

948
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: in a stroller pretty much. But you know that's that's

949
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. Yeah, wow, really fun, really cool.

950
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Um awesome for Steve. Can't wait to hear all the

951
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: stories break time for us when we come back. We

952
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: are going to have Bruce Feldman on with us. He's

953
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: an NFL writer for the athletic. We're going to talk

954
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: about his latest mock draft, maybe what he thinks about

955
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: some of these prospects. Who is the freakiest guy in

956
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft? One Bills Live presented by Clyde of

957
00:47:52,600 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio had a step taster who

958
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: has spread all all river fields. He was kind of

959
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, sell Steve a blimp.

960
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: We're not even in the spreaded fear of normalcy. Welcome

961
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon, Matty

962
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: Glave alongside w gr's Bills Beat reporter and sideline reporter

963
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Sal Capaco. We will be here all week. One hour

964
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: left in our show today and we are going to

965
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: go straight to the phone line to get back to

966
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: our Twitter conversation and phone conversation of course, who is

967
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: the one Bills defensive player you want to have a

968
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: breakout season in twenty twenty two? Tom from Buffalo, you

969
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: are on with us. Who would you like to have

970
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: a breakout season this year? Hey? Kids, I would say

971
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: you because at my age I'm allowed to do that.

972
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: What player on our roster? Okay, on the roster, I

973
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: would hope Epanasta because he's this is a third year

974
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: and we got Rousseau and we got Boogie Basham, and

975
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: those are the guys I expect to step up. I mean,

976
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: you could pick somebody in the middle line of defensive tackle,

977
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: but it's the edge pressure we got von Miller. So

978
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: the more pressure we can give on the quarterback, the

979
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: better roff we're gonna be. So I'm gonna say all

980
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: the edge of Russers, but out of all of them,

981
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: I would pick a Banasta. I think Epanessa is a

982
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: great pick. What do you want to see him do

983
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: this season? Are you thinking sack numbers? Are you thinking

984
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: just snap count? How much he plays? Where do you

985
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: want him to break out? Uh, sack procures, quarterback prectures,

986
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: even dropping under coverage if he has to. I mean

987
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: he knows the system. Now, yeah, you are right, Tom.

988
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: I rotate the players all the time, so most definitely, Tom,

989
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I think aj Epinessa is a

990
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: great name. He is somebody that I would also pick

991
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: to break out on defense this season. I think we

992
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: saw some flashes there last season, especially early on in

993
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: the season. I think we saw some hopeful things out

994
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: of aj Epinessa. I think we will continue to see

995
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: that there's a reason why he was drafted where he

996
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: was drafted in the second round of the twenty twenty

997
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. All these years are coming together. Um the

998
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: year that we did not have a first round pick

999
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: because of Stefan Diggs coming to the Buffalo Bills. But

1000
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: I think he offers a lot of interesting things at

1001
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: that position with his size, based on with his skill set,

1002
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: what he can do, what the Bills want him to do.

1003
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: I want him to have a breakout year because this

1004
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: is year three for him. I think you know, your

1005
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: rookie season, you're you're learning the system, you're trying to

1006
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: figure it out. Your second season, you're applying everything, You're

1007
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: you're finally starting to understand the defense, maybe starting to

1008
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: see things in offenses based on how you play that

1009
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: can affect how you play. And I think this season

1010
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: it's time to break out. It's time to make some noise.

1011
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: It's time to see the stats show up, whether it

1012
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: be sack numbers, whether it be QB pressures like Tom

1013
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: was saying, But I think he can be a great

1014
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: player in the NFL with people with the right people

1015
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: next to him on the defensive line. So aj Epiness

1016
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: I think has to be my name too. Why you

1017
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: want to see aja Epiness a breakout in twenty twenty two, Well,

1018
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: because I think that he would provide so much of

1019
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: what the Bills kind of need from that extra extra role. Right, mean,

1020
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: you go out and get von Miller, you have him.

1021
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: I think Greg Rousseau and I like greg Orusson. I

1022
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: think he's on his way to being a really good player,

1023
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: but beyond that, there are a lot of question marks

1024
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: of what do they have? And boy, if he can

1025
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: just become that guy that you can really rely on

1026
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: a consistent basis, game to game basis, down to down basis,

1027
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: he shows up early in the season, has that monster

1028
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: game against Miami, right and you're like, oh my gosh,

1029
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: you don't even have to be at that level every game.

1030
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: But if you can be someone who, hey, you know what,

1031
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: when Rousseau is not on the field, we have Etpanessa.

1032
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: When von Miller's not on the field, you have Epanessa.

1033
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I think that would really go a long way in

1034
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: helping this defensive line overall. And the other part of

1035
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: it is for the reason I'd like him to have

1036
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: a breakout year, is it kind of justifies the second

1037
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: round pick. Right now, you're wondering, is that second round

1038
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: pick was he worthy enough of that particular pick? Remember

1039
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: the first pick that year, because the Bills traded their

1040
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: first round pick for Stefan Diggs. That was the Bill's

1041
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: first pick that season. And you wonder, like, you know,

1042
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: you want to make it work. You want to say, Okay,

1043
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: that was an investment that the Bills made that so

1044
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: far hasn't quite panned out that maybe the way they

1045
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: wanted to. But now you see the results that second

1046
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: round pick, and you'd like to see that happen in

1047
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: the return on investment. Yeah. I mean, he's six six,

1048
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: he's two sixty, he's got that length, He's got what

1049
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: you're looking for in today's edge rushers, getting after the quarterback,

1050
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: being quick. I think he can be a nice addition

1051
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: onto that defensive line, working with guys like von Miller,

1052
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: working with players like Boogie Basham, with Greg Ruse. So

1053
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: he also offers that position flexibility, the willingness to play

1054
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: inside and play outside when he's asked to do that.

1055
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: You look at his numbers at Iowa. He had a

1056
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: lot of production when he was at Iowa. Those three years.

1057
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: He had those nine QB pressures like you talked about

1058
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: at Miami that game in September. It was the third

1059
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: most by an NFL player in a single game since

1060
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: the start of the twenty twenty season. So he's done it,

1061
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: he's flashed, he showed what he can do. I think

1062
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Speaker 1: this year you're looking for consistency from him, game in,

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: game out. He played in fourteen games his rookie season,

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00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: played in fourteen games. Last season, has only started in

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00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: one game. But I think I want a lot to

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00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: be asked of him this year, and I want him

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Speaker 1: to meet the mark with what is asked of him.

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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Bruce Feldman from The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: He's a college and NFL writer. He's also a Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports college football analyst. Bruce, thanks for coming on with

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Speaker 1: us today and talking a little bit about the NFL

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00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: draft that's right around the corner, my pleasure. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me guys. All right, so, I know you have

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Speaker 1: a mock draft that was released I want to say

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00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: early April, I believe it was. I can't remember the

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00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: exact date, but for the number twenty five pick to

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00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, you have Kyler Gordon out of Washington,

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00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: and he's definitely been a popular name being mocked to

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00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills at that number twenty five spot. Why

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00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: do you think Kyler Gordon could be a good fit

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Well, there's obviously a need there thanks to

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00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: free agency, but you also have a guy in Kyler Gordon.

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00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Look Jimmy Lake, who was the former head coach at

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Washington and was also a long time dB coach and

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00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: has developed a lot of elite defensive backs who've gone

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00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: onto the NFL, thinks Kyler Gordon is the best athlete

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00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: he's probably ever been around. That's a mouthful. I think

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00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: he's a guy who can come in physically and play

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: right away and he has you know, you're talking about

1090
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: a guy who has just so much flexibility and agility

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00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: that I think he can be a really special guy

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00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: in coverage, and I think he can come in and

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: help them, especially late in the first round. I think

1094
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: that's a really good value for them to get there. Yeah,

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00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: and you look at the Bill's traits and what they

1096
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: value Bruce right, which is exactly what you talk about.

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: They love position, flexibility. You look at Micah Hyde and

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00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: what he can do obviously Jordan Poor. You know, that's

1099
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: the way they use those safeties right there. We see

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00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: that all across the roster actually, and there's a guy

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: who can tackle and that is something very very important

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: to a Sean McDermot defense. It is I mean, there's

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00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: another guy around there in the eight first and you're

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00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: talking about the position flexibility. Also a you know, an

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00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: elite kind of tester athlete in Dax Hill from Michigan.

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00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: Dax Hill had a really good year this year for

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Champs and he's somebody who could you know,

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: be a nickel. He can, he can do a lot

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: of different things, so he's somebody I wouldn't be surprised

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00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: they also looked at there. But I just think in

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: terms of Kyler Gordon, you had a guy who's been really,

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00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: really well coached as a dB from the time he's

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: gotten there and really blossom, I think, and maybe he

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00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: was a little under the radar, both he and McDuffie,

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00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: just because Washington had a really bad year this past

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00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: year and has had a lot of struggles on the

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00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. But I think when you

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00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: were talking about if you look at the track record,

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake has had in terms of developing dbs, It's

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Speaker 1: as good as anybody in college football over the last

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Speaker 1: last five years or so. So I think this guy

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: is going to be a really good player in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: When you were creating that mock draft where there are

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Speaker 1: any other names that you were thinking of putting at

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Speaker 1: that number twenty five spot that the Buffalo Bills could

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: draft in the first round, there, you know, Hill was

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: the other guy just because of the flexibility that he

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: has and some of the things he can really do.

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: And I think in Hill's case, he played on a

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: defense where the cornerbacks were pretty suspect that was a

1131
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: weakness of the team, and I think he covered up

1132
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes and in more of an NFL

1133
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: style defense of what he had last year. Mike McDonald,

1134
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: who was the DC last year, came from the Ravens

1135
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: now He's since gone back to the Ravens as a

1136
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but I think he really the way he

1137
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: set up the scheme, it really showcase not only Dax Hill,

1138
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: but certainly the two edge guys they had in Aidan

1139
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and David Dajabo. You know, It's funny was because

1140
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: There are a lot of players who come into the

1141
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: league who they get asked to do a lot in

1142
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: college and they're very good at it, but they don't

1143
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: have a true position in the NFL. And even though

1144
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you watch him on film you say you know you

1145
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: can put him anywhere, it doesn't really work that way necessarily.

1146
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: But these guys you're talking about, they sound like guys who,

1147
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: you know what, you can put them in different spots

1148
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: and they're going to be able to excel. They're not

1149
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: guys who are kind of tweeners that you really don't

1150
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: have a spot for them. I think if you go

1151
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: to the right situation, especially in Buffalo, their track record

1152
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: under Brandon Bean, Sean McDermot and this coaching stuff of

1153
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: developing players, they would have a plan for these guys. Yeah,

1154
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: and I just think they're really good fits to plug in,

1155
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: especially where there is a need back there. I mean,

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00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: you're already talking about a franchise that's very close to

1157
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: being a Super Bowl team anyway, but I think just

1158
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: to jump in there. You're not talking about, hey, we're

1159
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: going to take a guy who's best athlete available and

1160
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: figure out where he fits. I mean, these are best

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: athlete kind of like true athletes, but in terms of

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00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: what they where they fit, I think they both fit

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: really well. There and your mock draft, the first quarterback

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: coming off the board is Kenny Pickett going to the

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers at number six. What's your sense of where

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are going to go in the first draft?

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: How many in the first round of the NFL Draft,

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: how many will go in the first round, and maybe

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00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: some interesting things that could happen on that first night

1170
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: of the draft that maybe none of us are expecting.

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: I think there maybe four that go that I think.

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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: Pickett for me, is the guy who is probably the

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00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: most ready to play in the NFL. He's got a

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: lot of experience. He played in a NFL style West

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00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: Coast system. He's a good athlete, and I think you

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00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: saw him really carry a team last year and had

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00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: a breakout twenty twenty one season. The other guys, Malik

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Willis probably has the best physical tools in terms of

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: a huge arm. He's a good runner, he's very strong.

1180
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: But Malik Willis came from a very RPO heavy kind

1181
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: of wildcard offense that Hugh Freeze runs at Liberty. He

1182
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: did not play against a lot of high level talent,

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: and when he did, there were some games where he struggled.

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: Matt Correll has a lot of He has a really

1185
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: quick release, he has a good arm. He can run.

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00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Matt Correll, I think there's some concerns is he ready

1187
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: to be the face of a franchise or a leader

1188
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: just from a maturity and from maybe a stability standpoint.

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: You know, the fourth guy, Desmond Ritter. I think people

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: like him characterwise. He tests well. I don't know if

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01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: he runs as fast as he is he timed in Indy.

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01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: The concern for me with him, from talking to the

1193
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: coaches I've talked to, is is he accurate enough to

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01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: be a starting high level NFL quarterback. I think he

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: can go on the end of the first round because

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: I think somebody will roll the dice on him there.

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01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: But the reason why I pick it so much, going

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: so much earlier than those other guys is because you

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Speaker 1: have the Panthers sitting there at number six. Matt Rule

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: needs to win very soon, and you have who's the

1201
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: most ready. It's Kenny Pickett, who, by the way, before

1202
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Matt Rule was the head coach at Baylor. Matt Rules

1203
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: the head coach at Temple and Kenny Pickett was once

1204
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback committed to him, so there's a lot of

1205
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: familiarity on both sides. I could see him saying, you

1206
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: know what, this kid has a lot of maturity. He's

1207
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: shown he can be very accurate, he's a good athlete.

1208
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff we can do, and we

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: think he can jump in and lead our team. That's

1210
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: a good point. I like that. You know you're talking

1211
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: about the accuracy questions. Josh Allen had a lot of

1212
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: those same accuracy questions coming out, but the Bills knew

1213
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: that they had a plan for him. They said, we're

1214
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna surround them with good people. We're going to develop him,

1215
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna give him stabilities, not gonna have a lot

1216
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: of chaos. I also see Malik will as kind of

1217
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: that high ceiling type of guy that if he goes

1218
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: to the right situation here, Bruce, I think he could

1219
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: be special in this league. But it does take a

1220
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: team to understand that and not rush the process. Yeah.

1221
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's just you can't get too

1222
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: far ahead of yourself with him, because I think there's

1223
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a big learning curve coming from what you

1224
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: freeze did to what they're going to have to live

1225
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: off of In the NFL. It's not say you can't

1226
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: have a package and do certain things, but I think

1227
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: you're expected to make him the guy right away and

1228
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: carry a team where there's expectations. I think that's a

1229
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: little more risky, you know. I think some of the

1230
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: when I went to the combine, some of the coaches

1231
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: I talked to had some hesitance about, you know, how

1232
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: accurate can he be when it's his second when it's

1233
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: not you know, like, all right, that guy's not open now,

1234
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run. No, when it's when it's not his

1235
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: primary read and he has to go to look to

1236
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: the second guy, how quickly will they get there? And

1237
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: how accurate is can he be when it's when it's

1238
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, when the bullets are flying, Because that is

1239
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: concerned of some of the challenges he had when the

1240
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: competition got a little better. But I think you're, you know,

1241
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: on the Josh Allen analogy. The thing that is interesting

1242
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: to me is both have elite arm talent. Obviously, he's

1243
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: not six to five, he's six feet now. He's a thick,

1244
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, muscled up. He almost looks like a linebacker

1245
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: when you see him in person. But when Josh Allen

1246
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: played the better teams on his schedule, his production was

1247
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: not very good in college and similar to the league. Really,

1248
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: the one thing the League did was he did run

1249
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: the ball well, but the decision making and some of that,

1250
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, the turnovers were concerning, and I think, you

1251
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: know again, there wasn't like, hey, we got to win now.

1252
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: I remember we did a game, my TV crew did

1253
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: a game Josh's rookie year, and he did not have

1254
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: much you know, you guys remember this. It was basically

1255
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: they got Robert Foster to be a weapon and they

1256
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't know almost nobody else was healthy at that point,

1257
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, Josh's legs are going to

1258
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: get us some first downs, and that's kind of what

1259
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: it was. I could see somebody doing that with Malik

1260
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: out of you know, out of desperation and need if

1261
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: it comes to it, because he's he's strong, and he's quick,

1262
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: and he runs pretty well. I mean doesn't run like

1263
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but he runs very well. We are joined

1264
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: by Bruce Feldman from the Athletic. You have your freaks

1265
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: list that you come out with every year. Spencer Brown

1266
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: was somebody who was on that list. Last year, the

1267
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Bills drafted him in the third round and he ended

1268
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: up starting on the offensive line and looks like he

1269
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: will be a starter heading into his second NFL season.

1270
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: The list that you came out with around the combine

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Speaker 1: this year has some pretty cool names on it. Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson is number one. Of course, Aiden hutch Hutchinson is

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Speaker 1: on that list. Number two. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about number two. It's Tarik Woolen, the cornerback out of UTSA.

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Speaker 1: He's actually a name that I've seen be mocked to

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and some mock drafts as early as

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Speaker 1: a first round pick. Now, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think he could be a third round guy, maybe

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Speaker 1: a late second round guy, depending on who wants to

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Speaker 1: take a chance on him. But why do you think

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Speaker 1: Tarik Woolen is one of the freaks in this year's

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Speaker 1: draft class. He's almost a unicorn to have. He's about

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Speaker 1: six four and he's running sub four three and he's

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: broad jumping, you know, eleven feet plus. I mean when

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Speaker 1: they told me, you know, when I work on that

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: freaks list story every offseason, Remember I talked to somebody

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Speaker 1: on the coaching staff at UTSA, and I think there

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01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: was almost hesitance to give me not just who he was,

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Speaker 1: but what hey, what they had him doing and testing

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Speaker 1: and all that, because nobody really knew about him. And

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: I think there was concerned, Hey, you're gonna put this

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Speaker 1: guy out there and then all of a sudden, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose him in the transfer portal because biggest schools

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: are going to see that kind of length and that

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Speaker 1: kind of athletics is him, and it's rare. I mean,

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: there's almost nobody like that. And so yes, he's still

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty raw, but I think people saw this guy does

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: make plays and what he can do testing wise, It's

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Speaker 1: not like he's just a track guy out there. He's

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: a good football player. He's just raw because he had played.

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: He came in there as a receiver and played receiver

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: for a while before they flipped him to corner. You know,

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: I've been telling myself to remember this for eleven months, Bruce,

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: so your your Freaks list reminds me of this. The

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: Bills have drafted the traits with this group this Josh Allen,

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau, Spencer Brown. They the Bills have gone out

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01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: and gotten guys like your freaks, Tremaine Edmonds, guys like

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Speaker 1: your freaks, and said, we have faith in our coaching staff,

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01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: we have faith in our development that we're going to

1310
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: tap in and get the most out of these guys.

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: They're not going for the safe picks. They're going with

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: the guys that are the freaks. And I love this

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: because I think any Bills fans should pay attention to

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Speaker 1: who you have because their picks, some of them could

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Speaker 1: come off that list. Yeah. Look, and you guys talked

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Speaker 1: to Spencer Brown. There's somebody at the same play Trevor Penning,

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01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: very similar story, you know, like kind of Iowa farm

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: kid who really really blossomed in college, and you know,

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: I have them going in first round pick. The coach there,

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Speaker 1: the old line coach I had talked to, you know,

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Speaker 1: around this time, was like, man, as good as Spencer is,

1322
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: we may have a kid who's even better here. Wow,

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just like that's you know, like

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: a lot of times guys come through the pipeline and

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Speaker 1: maybe they weren't hyped as recruits. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of times maybe they were a no star or a

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: two star, but either they blossom late or people just

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01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, miss them. They fell through the cracks. And

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of those guys that kind of fit

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: into that category if somebody was like, oh, that is

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: an elite athlete. And then when it takes to coaching,

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01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: because some of these guys, you know, it comes through

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Speaker 1: in the development piece because they've worked so hard to

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Speaker 1: become that kind of athlete that you know, if they

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Speaker 1: get really good coaching in college, and then they get

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Speaker 1: really good coaching and the level of expertise in the NFL,

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: when they flourish, and you know, I think the Bills

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01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: have obviously had a very good feel for that. One

1339
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: thing we've been talking about here, Bruce is position value

1340
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: where Brandon Bean sees guys, because it's a really interesting debate.

1341
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: At twenty five, you could argue the Bills could use

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: a really dynamic running back, especially someone out of the

1343
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: backfield put the ball in their hands as nice as

1344
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary was down the stretch. But the way they've operated,

1345
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: they don't spend a lot of money in that position.

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: They've taken third round picks on Singletary and Moss. Well,

1347
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: what do you get the sense of around the league

1348
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: of position value for running backs these days and how

1349
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Speaker 1: teams are treating that these days, maybe compared to back

1350
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: in I don't know, ten, fifteen years ago, when the

1351
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: game was different. Yeah, even maybe seven years ago. I mean, look,

1352
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: one of the best players I've covered in college football

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: in the last decade it was Saquon Barkley. He went

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: really high. It has not been a value pick for

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01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: the Giants. I mean, you think of some of these guys.

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, Christian McCaffrey has had some great moments, but

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: then you worry about the durability at that position, right,

1358
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: and so you use the word value. I think there's

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: a that's a key term, you know, like Breece Hall

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: has been a really productive running back for Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me right now who was the who

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Speaker 1: would be the hot first running back taken, I would

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: say him. But if you told me a year from

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: now who ended up having the most rushing yards as

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Speaker 1: a as a rookie running back, I might say Pierre Strong.

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: Pierre Strong played in the same conferences Spence Brown. It's

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Speaker 1: not FBS football. He was you know, in the Missouri

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Valley and at one point in the in the mid

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Speaker 1: middle of the season. When I talked to some of

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Speaker 1: the scouts who worked for the Senior Bowl, they thought

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Speaker 1: he was the most talented running back in the class.

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Speaker 1: And that's saying something, right. So he's on nobody's Heisman

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01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: list or anything like that. He was a guy who

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Speaker 1: was in Arkansas and just kind of fell through the

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Speaker 1: cracks and ended up playing FCS football. But that is

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01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: such a that is such a wild card position because

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of hyped guys not live up

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: to it. Now. Obviously, Derrick Henry was a Heisman winner

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: who's had a terrific NFL career. But then you have

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: a say Quon or even McCaffrey where it's like whether

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: it's injury or just how it's played out, or they

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: don't have enough pieces around them. It's just I think

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: you got to be careful what you spend on, you know,

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: in terms of that, because you could probably get somebody

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Speaker 1: almost as productive, maybe in the third or fourth round.

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01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about another name on your

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: freaks list, and if our listens listeners have not seen

1388
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,879
Speaker 1: this list yet, you guys can just google Bruce Feldman

1389
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: Freaks list and look at it. And I encourage you

1390
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: to look at it because there's so many names that

1391
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: have been mocked to the Bills at number twenty five

1392
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: that are on this list that I think it's a

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01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: resource to use as everybody's getting ready and excited for

1394
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We were talking about interior offensive linemen

1395
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: and how that could be an attractive position for the

1396
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: Bills at number twenty five. Maybe if the run on

1397
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: corner starts early or they don't like any corners available,

1398
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: they can choose to go interior offensive linements as that

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: position does have depth in the NFL Draft, especially toward

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Speaker 1: the late bottom of the first round and into the

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Speaker 1: second round. Zion Johnson has been a popular name for

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills at number twenty five. Why is Zion

1403
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: Johnson on your Freaks list? You know, really really good athlete.

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: By the quirky part about him was you have this,

1405
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: you know, massive offensive lineman who's also was on his

1406
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: high school golf team and as a single digit handicapper,

1407
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, like he tests really well, He's got a

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: lot of versatility. People think he could be a really

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: good center. I mean there's a couple of guys in there.

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Speaker 1: When you say interior alignment. Tyler Linda Baum from Iowa

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: is a great college player, former standout wrestler, really good athlete.

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: Now he is not a guy who could play guard.

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: I think people look him as a center only, whereas

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, I think you could say he could play

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: all three spots. He did play some offensive tackle at

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: BC for quite a bit, but I think people think

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Speaker 1: of him more on the interior. Really smart. I don't

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: think they can go wrong with either guy. It's just

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: with Linda Bomb. I think as dominant as he was

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01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: at times, you know, if you look at him at

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: what happened against Michigan, Michigan had a huge nose guard

1422
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: and I think it was like maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: of him being covered up, which presented some challenges. So

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01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: I think teams are going to look at what they're

1425
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: most comfortable with in terms of like this player who's

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: just a little bit of different style than maybe this

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: other one. Is good stuff. It's gonna I love. I

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: love the freak stuff because again, what the Bills have done,

1429
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: it draws my attention over there, and I think that

1430
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen in the interior offensive line.

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: It's interesting you can get guys like that center they

1432
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: can't play guard, or guard can't play center. You know,

1433
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: some guys just have the inability, right Bruce. I mean,

1434
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: you can look at some of these guys and they

1435
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: just they struggle to be able to change that other

1436
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: as it kind of becomes it comes natural because they

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: might be as certain athletes. We see the same thing

1438
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: with left tackle and right tackle. Some guys can do it.

1439
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: Some guys because of their right foot, their left foot,

1440
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: their anchor foot, it just doesn't come natural for them. Yeah.

1441
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean, look a few years ago, Mitch Schwartz, who

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01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: was a who was a solid player at caliber, wasn't

1443
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: like an All American. He became a great right tackle.

1444
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how if he would have had the

1445
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: same impact if he was on the other side for

1446
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but it won't. You know, he was an

1447
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: All Pro for a couple of years because he was

1448
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: just very comfortable over there. He was really good with

1449
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: his hands, and I think, you know, I think there's

1450
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: such a nuance that comes with especially line play, where

1451
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: I think it's very it's there's a difference between good

1452
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: and great sometimes and it's I think a lot of

1453
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: it has to do with you know, if you ask me,

1454
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas would be great on either side, I don't.

1455
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: There are very few guys who I think are that

1456
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of athlete and that kind of dexterity and kind

1457
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: of wherewithal and I think that's that's the tricky part

1458
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: for teams as they evaluate these guys. Bruce, before before

1459
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: I let you go, I want to ask you what

1460
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: are you hearing about Jamison Williams and where he might fall?

1461
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: Because he seems to be a wildcard here and people

1462
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: think he could last the Bills at twenty five. I'm

1463
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: starting to get the sense that won't happened as quick

1464
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: as that could be. But what are you hearing maybe

1465
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: about where his range is right now due to the

1466
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: injury and all that. You know, I think if you're

1467
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: the Packers, you really need a receiver. You know, obviously

1468
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: you Lostavante Adams. I mean he has a stretch the field,

1469
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, really really explosive athlete. He's not small now,

1470
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not Drake Lendon either. I think he's

1471
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy who I'd be surprised, even with the injury

1472
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: that he's coming off of, if he lasts that long.

1473
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: I just think people are gonna look and go, man,

1474
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: we watch him on film at Alabama and he is

1475
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,839
Speaker 1: just lighting up really good defenses and really good athletes.

1476
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: I think they know that and think he's probably a

1477
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: guy and he's got return value. I don't think he's

1478
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: going to go go that late. I just think injury

1479
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: and notwithstanding, people are gonna say this guy can be

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: an an elite playmaker and a home run hitter that

1481
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: in this game you just can't. You can't find those guys.

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01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: You can find really good receivers in the second or

1483
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: third round. I think his year is a little different

1484
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, he definitely looks like that when you

1485
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: turn on the tape, and with how people are talking

1486
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 1: about ACL injuries today and how quickly players are rehabbing

1487
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: and in the videos that we've seen him rehabbing from

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: that ACL injury, I would be surprised if he's still

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Speaker 1: available at number twenty five. Bruce, thank you so much

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: for coming on with us. We appreciate all your insight

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: and dipping into that Freaks list. A fun list to

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: watch and to follow and read. My pleasure. Thanks for

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: having me, guys. Okay, thanks Bruce, all Right, that's Bruce Feldman.

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 1: He writes college football and NFL stuff for The Athletic.

1495
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: He's also a Fox Sports college football analyst and the

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: author of the QB The Making of Modern Quarterbacks. It's

1497
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: funny before we go to break, Jameson Williams was like

1498
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: the name for the Buffalo Bills. When mock drafts first

1499
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: started to come out. He was the popular name for

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers if person making a mock draft wanted a

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver to go to Buffalo. But now when you

1502
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: look at these mock drafts, he's going off in like

1503
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: the late teens. And yeah, you hear people talk about

1504
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: it now. NFL analysts, people who have been in the game,

1505
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: people who have coached in the game. They think acl injuries,

1506
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: you can rehab from that a lot quicker maybe than

1507
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: ten years ago, seven years ago, with the technology today,

1508
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: which makes me think about Tredavious White. Agreed, and you

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01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: hope that that's the case. And everything we've heard from

1510
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: Brandon Bana, Sean mcdermman, his trays on pace and rehabbing

1511
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: really hard. He had the scream today, like you said,

1512
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: so let's happy scream, happy scream. So you know, hopefully

1513
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: that's the case, no doubt about it. All Right, We're

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna take a break here, don't go anywhere. When we

1515
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: come back more talk about what defensive player we want

1516
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: to see breakout in the twenty twenty two season. Maybe

1517
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: take some of your calls to so give us a

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: call here. Eight O three five fifty one Bills Live

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: is presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welco

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01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: mech into one Bills Live. We are talking about the

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: defensive players we want to have a breakout season in

1522
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. I answered my guy aj Epenessa. I

1523
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: want him to have a breakout season for many different reasons,

1524
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: mostly just because it's year number three. I want him

1525
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: to break out. Year one was learning system, Year two

1526
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: starting to apply that, starting to get comfortable. Year three,

1527
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: take the reins off, you go fly, have a great year.

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 1: He has the people in the room, he has the

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff, He has a guy and von Miller next

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: to him. He has a positioned flexibility. He flashed at

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: times last year. So I think you put that together,

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: you get some consistency and to be able to have

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: a producer and other producer on the defensive line. Like

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: him with his physicality trade six six to fifty. I

1535
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: want to say that would be nice to have somebody

1536
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: like that flying after the quarterback. So who is your

1537
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: guy that you want to break out here? I'm glad

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: that my guy has not been chosen or talked about

1539
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: by anyone because it's a little bit under the radar.

1540
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give you my reasons. The guy I

1541
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: want to see have a breakout year is a new

1542
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: addition who was buried on the Washington depth chart. That

1543
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: is Tim Settle. Tim Settled the defensive tackle. You got

1544
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: to think, now, this guy was behind Jonathan Allen, to

1545
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: Ron Payne and Matt Iodinas in Washington. He never really

1546
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: got a chance, but when he played, he was very good.

1547
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: Now he comes to Buffalo. Let's think about this for

1548
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,919
Speaker 1: a second, Maddie, Buffalo Bill's defensive tackles. Last year, Harrison

1549
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: Phillips led the group with forty four percent of the

1550
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: snaps right last year, Tim Settle only twenty percent of

1551
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: the snaps played in Washington. He's never top thirty three

1552
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: percent of snaps played with Washington. The Washington football team

1553
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: last year obviously now the commander, but I think Tim

1554
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: settle in a regular role. Even as whether is he

1555
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna start, I don't know. You're gonna have. You're gonna

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01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: have Ed Oliver and either Tim Settler, Da Kwon Jones,

1557
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips's back, whatever it is. I think he's in

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: for a healthy rotation. I think all this guy needs

1559
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: is an opportunity and he will have a breakout year.

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: And then when he has the breakout year, that is

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01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: going to help Tremaine Edmunds and Matt Milano and Von

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01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: Miller and everybody else on the defense. Yeah, I think

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01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: he could be an important piece to the defense as

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: a whole. He had five sacks during the twenty twenty season.

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01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: We got to hear what he was like in his

1566
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: introductory press conference. Seems like he brings so much energy,

1567
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: so much joy to wherever he is. He had that

1568
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 1: big whoa during the press conference, which was hilarious to see.

1569
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: It scared the crap out of me as well, a

1570
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: big man yelling. I wasn't expecting that, but absolutely loved it.

1571
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see where he fits in on

1572
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: the defensive line, to see what he starts to do

1573
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: when guys start to kind of get going there and

1574
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: OTAs and in training camp and the other benefit if

1575
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: Tim Settle has a breakout year, we get to see

1576
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the penguin dance. He loves the penguin

1577
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: dance part of his identity. I love it, love his swag.

1578
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: We've had a caller hanging on the phone line for

1579
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: quite some time. We're gonna go to Mike. Mike, you're

1580
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: on with us. Is there a guy that you want

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: to break out on defense this year? Actually, what I'm

1582
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: what I'm calling about is there are so many people

1583
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: in that are Buffalo Bills fans that are against Tremaine Edmonds.

1584
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: This kid is twenty three years old. Most rookies in

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01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: the NFL are twenty three years old. He's going into

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01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: his fourth year. This guy is a phenomenal player. He's

1587
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: got range, he's got length, he's got a good attitude.

1588
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: On top of all that, he calls a defensive plays.

1589
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's phenomenal. I mean he's all Pro

1590
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: two years in a row. Pro Bowl. I'm sorry, pro bowler. Yeah, listen,

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I think it's a great it's a

1592
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: great debate Maddie about his age versus experience. He is

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: super young. As you're pointing out, there's no doubt he's

1594
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: still very young by NFL standards. He also is going

1595
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: into his fifth season. He has plenty of experience, so

1596
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: you have to balance that, and I would say, I

1597
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: would say he's still even filling out his frame. The

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01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: one thing that happens sometimes with Tremaine is Tremaine does

1599
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: get kind of swallowed up a little bit some by

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: some bigger offensive lineman. But I would say he's also

1601
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: still getting bigger. He's twenty three years old. Yeah. And

1602
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: as far as my breakout player, uh, I don't really

1603
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: have a breakout player, but I will tell you one thing.

1604
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't think as Finanza is gonna make the team.

1605
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end out getting traded. Wow, were

1606
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: way way too much defensives and defensive lineman. I mean,

1607
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a numbers game with these guys. It's

1608
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a numbers game. And it's either gonna be

1609
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham who's growing into a second year, or a

1610
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: j who's drawing into his third year that is not

1611
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: going to make the team. They're gonna get traded because

1612
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: they're both you know, one and two round picks, but

1613
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: one of them is going to get traded. Do you

1614
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: think Shack Lawson makes the team? Yes, I do, okay,

1615
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: because he's a wild coman. Yeah, yeah, absolutely he makes

1616
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: the team. I think Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips are

1617
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: gonna are gonna put together a pretty good year together,

1618
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: right all right, Mike, thanks for the call. Um. The

1619
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: interesting thing there about defensive line that is going to

1620
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: be a position group that we saw last year. Brandon

1621
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: being kept kept a lot of defensive lineman on the roster.

1622
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: I remember when we had the final count. One thing

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01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: that stood out was the amount of defensive lineman. I

1624
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: can't remember off the top of my head how many

1625
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: he kept, but that was something that he was asked about,

1626
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: was why he kept that extra defensive lineman or why

1627
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: that position group was bigger than others. Of course, your

1628
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: offensive line and your defensive line are going to have

1629
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: bigger numbers because you need bigger numbers because of the

1630
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: way that guys go in and out of the lineup

1631
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: in that position and the way that injuries can happen

1632
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: with that position and the guys that have to be

1633
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. But he did

1634
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: keep more defensive lineman because of the rotation that the

1635
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills like to go through, because of the way

1636
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: that Eric Washington and Leslie Frasier likes to rotate through

1637
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: defensive linemen to continuously throw fresh legs at offensive linemen

1638
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: who are getting tired as the game goes on. So

1639
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: who knows what we'll see out of that defensive line group.

1640
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Brandon Being keeps a bigger number again this year,

1641
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: and we see a lot of these guys who are

1642
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: on the roster right now that will be on the

1643
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: roster come week one. If you take the entire group together,

1644
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: defensive ends, defensive tackles to make the defensive line. They've

1645
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: twelve on the roster right now as it is, they're

1646
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: going to add. As said earlier, they have sixty six

1647
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: guys in the roster. They go to camp with ninety

1648
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: they can, so they're going to add to that. What's

1649
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 1: also interesting is, out of the six right now, Maddie,

1650
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the twelve, five of them are new additions.

1651
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: Von Miller, Shack Lawson, Tim settle Day, Kwon Jones, and

1652
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. And you look at who is still out there,

1653
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: who was on the team last year. Who is not

1654
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: isn't back. We know Harrison Phillips obviously signed with the

1655
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, Star Lotula is gone, Jerry Hughes unsigned, Mario

1656
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: Addison unsigned, Brian Cox junior unsigned, and Justin Zimmer. Now

1657
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: I don't think as I sit here right now, the

1658
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: Hughes or Addison would come back. Brian Cox most likely not.

1659
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer is sitting out there. Maybe he's a guy

1660
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: that would like to bring back on some sort of

1661
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: extra minimum deal coming off the injury. But I wouldn't

1662
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: be surprised if they add even more to this defensive

1663
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: line group. Of all the positions, this is my way

1664
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: of saying, of all the positions on this team, this

1665
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: group has been the most overhauled. There's no doubt about that.

1666
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: If you look at the new additions and the guys

1667
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: they've lost from year to year, A lot of new

1668
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: faces in that group. And I counted from last year

1669
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: when we had the final fifty three, Brandon being kept

1670
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: eleven defensive lineman for nine offensive lineman, so an extra

1671
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: body or two there in that position group. I would

1672
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: expect the same this season again as well, because you

1673
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: have the same defensive line coach. You have the same

1674
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator on the coaching staff, and you also have

1675
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: offenses playing at a fast pace, lots of spreading the

1676
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: football out. You need bodies, You need guys who are

1677
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: going to be able to shuttle in and out. And

1678
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 1: it just goes to the core philosophy of Sean mcderman. Anyway,

1679
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: going back to his Carolina days as a defensive coordinator,

1680
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: he always believes in a heavy rotation of defensive lineman

1681
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: and you kind of have to do that with the

1682
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: way the game is played today. I'm super interested to

1683
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: see even a Von Miller. You know, obviously he'll play

1684
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: a lot, but basically, the Bills love to make sure

1685
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: they rotate a lot of defensive lineman for those reasons.

1686
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: So they need to have guys who can take a

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Speaker 1: little bit off their plate when they have to come

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Speaker 1: out of the game. All right, let's do one answer

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01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: from our tweet sheet. Let's go to the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: which is brought to you by the Corgan Moving Systems,

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01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

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01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: JT said Ed Oliver in his fourth year, I think

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01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: is going to ball out with the pro Bowl year.

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01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: With the addition of von Miller, it's going to open

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01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: up the line for plenty of sacks and forced turnovers

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: from the pressure we bring. I also think Tim Settle

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips will bring the juice. So let me

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01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: ask you this, would you qualify because I would at

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Oliver having a breakout year last year. Yes, that's why

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01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: I did not name him. I would love to see

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: him continue what he did. Elivated right, elivated I think

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01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: ye last year, second half of the season especially, Yes,

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01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: he was. He was really good last year. If ed

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: O Oliver can be, if he can build on what

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: he did in the second half of last year, he

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01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: is going to be regarded as one of the best

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01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in the entire game. Yeah. I think the

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: second half of last year he kind of started to

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: get into conversation there by people that he wasn't quite

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01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 1: as noticed. He doesn't have these eye popping numbers, but

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: if you watch him play from a down to down,

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01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 1: play to play game to game basis, he flashed, he popped,

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: and you said, this is a team that really needs

1714
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: at Oliver because he makes a lot of things happen

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01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: on the field and I'm excited to see what he

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01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: can he can do, what he can become. So I

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01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: understand what the tweeter is saying, but I would say

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01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: to me, he actually had a breakout your last year. Yeah,

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he had a breakout year last year, which

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01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: made me even more excited for the fact that, like,

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01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: what is this defensive line going to look like in

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01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. It was fun to see

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01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: him break out. He is a freak athlete. I think

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01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: about Bruce Feldman's freak list at Oliver deserves to be

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01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: on it. If there's an NFL freaks list, a bunch

1726
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: of players on this roster actually deserve to be on it, because,

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01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: like you talked about sal, these are the type of

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01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: players that Brandon bean is attracted to. Maybe not the

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01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: guys that are mocked in certain numbers or the people

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01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: that you should be choosing at number twenty five. Brandon

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01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 1: being I think sees and a lot of gems to

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01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: do too. See beyond that, and maybe you want to

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01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: pick some physicality traits and physical makeup aside from what

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01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: it looks like on paper in terms of stats and numbers.

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll bring up real quickly have to

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01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: get the break I know about these guys the defensive

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: line group. Availability um, that was an issue with Star

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01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: Latuli while he was here. Right, obviously he did sit

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01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: out the one year and CODA related issues. But when

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01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: he came back, he wasn't always in and out. He

1741
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: was in and out of the line up a little

1742
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: bit too often. I thought Tim settled de Quan Jones.

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01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: These are guys that play, They've played a lot of

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01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: football and they have not missed many games. And that's

1745
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 1: a Sean m brannan bean always say your best ability

1746
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: is your availability. There you go exactly there. There's some

1747
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: phrases in the NFL that you just get attached to

1748
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: because your players say it all the time, and those

1749
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: that is definitely one of us, one of them. All Right,

1750
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: break time for us. When we come back, we may

1751
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: wrap up the tweet sheet and look ahead to what's

1752
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: on the show for tomorrow. Don't go anywhere. One Bills

1753
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 1: Live is presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1754
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back into One Bills Live. And as we close

1755
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: out the show, here a couple names that we haven't

1756
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: talked about yet. As I go down the tweet sheet

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01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: here for what defensive player do you want to have

1758
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: a breakout season this year? A lot of people listed

1759
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: some of the defensive lineman Rousseau, Oliver Basham, at Panessa,

1760
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: at Panessa a popular name, Greg Russeau. Another name that

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01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: was named again Tremaine Edmunds. A few times. I feel

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01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: like you could go with you could argue several different

1763
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: players of why they should have a breakout season for

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Think about it, this was the number

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01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: one defense in the NFL this past season. Can they

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01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: take it to another level? I think if a couple

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01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: of these guys have a breakout season next year, they

1768
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: totally can. And I like the very first caller, her

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: suggestion was a guy like Dane Jackson. You know, that's

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01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: the biggest question mark right now. Probably. I'm this football

1771
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: team is opposite Trev Swaite the cornerback. What is it

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01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: going to look like? And if you can get a

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: guy who can do that, I think that would just

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01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: be such a benefit to what they need to do.

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01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: A lot of these faces coming back, it's a it's

1776
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: a familiar group there. I expect them to be top

1777
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: three next year in defense for all righty. We're gonna

1778
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: see you guys tomorrow. Join us back one Bills Live

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01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: from one to three o'clock. Seal and I will be

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01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: back in these seats. Have a good day, guys,