WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Trading Places? 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:20.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.440 ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:28.600 Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.960 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:40.239 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.640 It is Wedndesay, October thirty of twenty nineteen, season fifteen, 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.320 episode number seventy two. Welcome to it the latest edition 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.000 of The Break. We are live from the s WBC 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.680 Morgan Studios at the Star. Got a lot to get 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.440 into today, some news from yesterday. We'll kind of recap um, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.440 and then we'll get into the New York Giant offense. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.960 The news that wasn't yeah right, A lot of build 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.120 up for it. I mean, I think we were obviously 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.160 a part of that that build up because we started 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.319 talking about it and and I'm sure it kind of 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.720 that kind of fueled fans a little bit. But the 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.720 point is, it was a lot of stuff to talk 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.360 about yesterday with regards to Jamal Adams, and it ultimately 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.560 nothing came of it, but it was still a lot 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.520 of fun it was definitely a lot of fun, but 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.040 really depending yeah, it was fun for me. I had 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.400 a good time with it, not me because all night 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.959 and I would think about it. It felt like one 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.120 of those losses, like the Cowboys just lost the game 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.880 because you're like, they were so close to becoming a 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.480 super Bowl contender like that, maybe even a favorite to 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.360 go to the super Bowl. In my opinion, I really 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.440 think that that would have got them over the top 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.520 and it didn't happen based off of a second or 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.840 third round pick. They didn't give it whatever it was. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.240 It's like, man, they were close from getting a lot 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.880 better in five minutes, hard to get better in five minutes, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.840 and that I think they could have been see that. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.600 I don't know all those stories I see. I mean, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.120 I hear you, and you know it's it's conflicting because 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.920 you're right, like what you just said is true. But 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.000 at the same time, like what if I told you 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.040 could win a big, big game that puts you in, 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.960 you know, pole position for the bye week in the playoffs, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.760 number one scene home field throughout, but you're gonna lose 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.079 three of your best players. Would you take that? I don't, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.359 because that's the one we're going with. It's going to 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.200 cost you a first and two seconds reportedly, or maybe 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.119 two firsts. So your hand string. You're hamstringing not just one, 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.560 but two of your next drafts to do that, and 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.520 that I mean, that's come back and say, well, I'll 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.560 just go without Tristan Hill. Then okay, I'll come back 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.280 and say, all right, you can't have Layton vander esh 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.959 and Michael Gallup either. Okay, I mean, but tank or 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.119 Tank or Jalen Smith, you know, I mean, we keep 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.880 going with the second rounds. I mean, well, the ones 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.360 you're gonna talk about were much longer, but go ahead, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.880 I'll I mean, I get your point. Yeah, But but 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.960 you are You've been trying to get safety, and now 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.359 you don't have to get a safety. So I mean 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.560 you have a safety for the next hopefully four to 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.240 five six years. I mean you have. You finally got one, 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.760 and you stole one. You stole a number six overall 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.720 pick because you're getting one with a late first round pick, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.880 and you had to throw in some other picks in 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.560 there as well. It's right on the borderline of it 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.720 really is right on the borderline of whether or not 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.720 I would have done it like you could you could 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.560 have talked me into it. I said that on Twitter yesterday. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.560 I was like, if this, if this reported price is accurate, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.359 you probably could have talked me into it. But I 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.400 can't sit here and kill the Cowboys for not being 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.760 willing to give up three picks that are that valuable, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.880 not when we've seen what they can do with them. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.440 And that's cool if you're pissed off about Tristan Hill, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.360 their track record speaks for itself. Yeah. To me though, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.480 and I know that people don't like to say this, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.720 but I mean if you're losing a second round pick 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.680 and then maybe another second round pick, I mean that's 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.000 basically what it is, because you you can't overlook the 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.560 fact that you're getting a first round player, right, but 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.080 you're giving up that first rounder so that you look 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.720 at and you're like, yeah, you probably did okay there. Yeah, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.200 the problem becomes now you've given up reportedly two more 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.839 second round picks, and that's where you and I were 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.279 walking down this path a little bit earlier before the show, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.119 and my thought was, okay, yeah, you just you secure 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.320 your safety position for a while, is what you think. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.360 But what are you not going to do? At cornerback, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.159 where you've got some question marks on the future. Right, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.200 what are you gonna do at defensive tackle where you've 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.400 got some question marks at on the future? What are 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.039 you gonna do at defensive end? Well, you've got some 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.920 question marks on the future. It's nice to say, well, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.599 we'll just have to go out and find those guys, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.320 but you've just hamstrung yourself because the picks where you 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:44.880 could get better players, and I know you can go 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.599 to third, fourth, fifth round and maybe maybe get one. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.280 The problem is for every round you go down, it 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.600 becomes it becomes exponentially harder to find a player that's 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.240 actually gonna be able to step in and be a 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.760 good player for you. This team has twenty eight guys 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.599 entering unrestricted free agency at the end of the season, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.680 and many twenty eight. Yeah, and not all of those 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.000 are guys that they're going to care about losing, obviously, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.640 but some of them are. A decent number of them are. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.520 And that's I get it. Like I said, it's it's 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.400 tough to call because, like you want to push your 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.720 chips in and this is a talented team. You got 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.919 a short window until all these cap hits start to 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.120 come home and he could put you over the top. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.840 But what if you don't win that Super Bowl? What 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.040 if what if they get to the second round and 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:34.200 lose in disappointing fashion again, and then you you're losing 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.800 guys in free agency, maybe you're changing coaches, And then 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.120 you're sitting there thinking, we don't pick until pick number 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.240 ninety five. We're waiting until pick ninety five to add 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.279 somebody to this roster. And that's cool that we have 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.080 Jamal Adams, but we got other needs too, because MALIEK. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.400 Collins left in free agency, Robert Quinn left in free agency, 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.480 Byron Jones is on a franchise tag. We don't know 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.480 what's going to happen there, on and on and on 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.000 and on and on. All of those problems are going 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.840 to be fixed by your second rounder that you can 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.159 no but maybe one of them will right maybe, But 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.200 but but you also had for draft twenty twenty third overall, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.160 twenty fourth overall. I mean, who are you guaranteeing that 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.960 is going to play well? Not necessarily, but the point 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.240 is that means now it's even lower than that. So 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.279 the chances that we already know the chances of getting 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.880 that guy at the end of the first round is 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.240 not as good as getting at the top of the 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.560 first round. So if that's hard, how much hard is 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.640 it getting them late second, late third, late fourth, late fifth. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.840 I mean, for every round you go down, it is 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.480 infinite and it is more hard. Is much harder to 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.960 find a replacement player. You know, Well, we're arguing about 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.840 stuff we don't know about. We I mean, if if 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.680 we had a deal on the table, that we could 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.680 sit there and go, this is the deal, but we don't. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.080 I mean the report from yeah, I think it was 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.000 Ian Rappaport and Jane Slayter combined on it. The report 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.200 was that it's a first and two seconds. I don't 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.159 know one hundred percent if that's true. We heard. We 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.119 also heard another report was that it was a little 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.880 bit less than Jalen Ramsey's price, which was two firsts 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.240 and a fourth. So I don't know. The truth is 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.760 probably in there somewhere. It would have been quite a 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.880 haul of premium draft pick. I will just say this, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.920 if the report is true of the one in two seconds, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.920 I'm kind of with you, Dave that with a with 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.000 a little bit of pressure, it's right, you might have 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.960 been able to talk me into it's right. But yes, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.800 we were talking about this on the show. I said, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.400 you know, when you guys first said I'd do one 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.640 in a two, my first thought was, oh boy, that's 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.000 that's pricey. One in the four sign me up all 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.280 day every now, but you're one of the three sign 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.600 me up all day every day. One of the two 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.680 gets to that point where I'm kind of like, oh gosh, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.120 I don't know that's that's tough. But I could have 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.720 been persuaded just for what Nick is saying, which is 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.119 you get the premier safety in the in the game, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.800 and getting the premier safety in the game matters, right, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.800 It certainly matters. I'm not sitting here trying to like 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.960 defend the company line. I don't think there's a wrong 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.520 answer to this. I think Nick is Nick is justified 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.680 to be frustrated if if you think that he can 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.000 really do all that for you. But it's their job 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.800 to think about two, three, four years in the future 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.840 as well. And again, with all these contracts you gotta pay, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.880 you need draft picks to replace some of that production 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.600 that you're losing. That's the way this works. So Man, 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.360 as an LSU alum nobody would be more excited than 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.840 me if Jamal Adams was on this team, but I 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.400 understand their hesitation. If that was indeed the price. Well, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.640 we're gonna put a pin in this conversation because in 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.560 the next what I don't know how many months, when 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.920 you get to free agency, that's honestly, I mean, and 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.000 the period opens again where teams can negotiate, maybe this 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.240 comes back around and maybe there's something I don't know 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.760 is you know, that's the thing about that's what I 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.600 love about the NFL and what I loved about yesterday. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:41.760 I know you said it wasn't fun for you. It 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.000 was fun for me, just because that's a fun part 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.920 about being an NFL fan is when you have some 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.200 when they're actual trades that are happening, then it allows 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.280 you to think about your team in a whole different 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.640 way and say, man, what if what if we could 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.440 get this guy? What if we could get this guy? 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.120 How much better would it make us? And it just 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.400 makes it fun. It makes the whole thing fun, you know. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.119 I yeah, I said that yesterday. I was like, regardless 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.960 of what does or doesn't happen, I love that the 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.040 trade deadline is a thing now and but some people 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.040 came back and me like, no, it's not like nothing's 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.120 getting done. I'm like, just because nothing's happening at the 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.520 wire doesn't mean things aren't happening. There were a lot 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.280 of trades. You saw Brandon Peters get shipped. You saw 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.000 obviously Jalen Ramsey. Um they sent a keep tell leave 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.280 to Miami yesterday. They did they send slay out of 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.920 Detroit or was it no quads they sent out of Detroit? 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.960 I mean there was Leonard Williams was another one. There 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.600 were a lot of deals. And you know, even three 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.320 years ago, I would have been like, shut up about 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.040 Jamal Adams or you know, not gonna happen. It's just 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.000 it won't happen. And now that is that's clearly not true. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.720 And that's that's fun for everybody, even if it didn't 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.280 happen for the Cowboys this year. And the fact is, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.880 the reports are that there was lots of conversation. So 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.679 the point that there was conversation meant that there were 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.719 people that were willing to do deals. It just never 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.280 could come to a conclusion that seems like it would 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.080 have worked for for both sides. That's just the nature 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.880 of negotiation. All right, we appreciate you guys. We're gonna 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.840 go ahead and take a break. We're gonna take a break. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.600 When we come back. I do want to hit a 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.400 quick piece of news. One cowboy is now off the 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.319 roster and heading to Detroit. 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It is the second 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.000 segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.960 At the start, let's get into a little bit of 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.040 quick news here before we jump to the New York Giants. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.720 Dave's got his scouting court for us on the Giants offense. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.840 But today we find out Cowboys lost cornerback Michael Jackson. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.079 He was signed to the active roster for the Detroit 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.440 Lions from the Cowboys practice squad, and normally you don't 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.280 that really doesn't take much conversation. But the reason why 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:43.640 I wanted to bring it up to you guys is 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.600 because I think Michael Jackson was a player the Cowboys 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.959 obviously liked. He was okay in training camp this year. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.640 I mean, for a rookie, there were some moments that 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.160 he had. But when you look at the cornerback position, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.240 and you look at this, as I mentioned a little earlier, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.920 the uncertainty of that position, how much does this kind 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.640 to move affect the Cowboys going into the future where 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.839 they may be looking at this thing saying, hey, we 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.839 need that depth. We expect him to be better next year. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.640 We really were looking to have that depth around, but 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.120 we just don't have the room to make them a 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.520 part of our active roster. I think if they would 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.559 really wanted them, they could have protected them, especially when 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.800 a couple of weeks ago they had injuries at corner, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.079 some uncertainties there. You know, they could have maybe used him. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.400 I just feel like, just like we talked about with 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.840 a couple of years ago, Eagles try to get Blake 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.600 Jarwin and then they kind was said, now we're gonna 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.679 make room for him. They could have found a way 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.400 to make room if they really wanted them. I'm sure 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.959 they would have liked to keep them, but you know, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.520 you can't keep everyone, and that's why you expose them 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.439 when you put them on practical one. Nick, make the 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.760 joke that you told me earlier. I don't want to 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.520 steal your joke. Michael Jackson going back to Motown. Yeah, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.199 it's perfect. Well, I didn't know, honestly. I was like, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.559 I thought it was from that area. Well, he's from Indiana, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.800 the singers from Indiana. But like Motown Records is in Detroit, right. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.760 I thought it was good. I mean it the narrative 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.960 was that you were drafting this guy to kind of develop, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.199 and he fits for Shard's mold and he can be 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.000 there for you. It just it didn't pan out. Um. Yeah, 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.120 I mean it's you know, it's hard to feel like 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.920 they got bambooz old or anything, because if they really 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.600 wanted to protect him, they could have. I will say 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.760 it's early, it's you know, it's October of their rookie year. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:26.560 But this draft class is not off to a great start. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.760 It's just not the and and Jackson is the you 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.640 don't have a first round. Well, it's a difference, yeah, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.480 because when they start reaching sometimes when they don't have 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.480 that first round, that's what that's the mistakes that talked 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.600 about yesterday. Absolutely, but Jackson's the first guy to leave 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:47.320 the organization. Um. Jelkes is on Iru Hills obviously, here, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:52.080 McGovern's on Irber, Webber's on the practice squad. Joe Jackson 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.320 is on the active roster. But you know, you don't 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.800 have a Tony Pollard being the one guy that's that's 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.080 doing something for you, arguably not enough. Not his fault, 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.600 but you don't have a first round pick and you 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.000 pick at the back end of the round, which then 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.920 that's the other side of that coin of like, well, 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.040 if we think the Cowboys are good, maybe those picks 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.960 they would have had to give up aren't as valuable 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.160 as we're making them out to be. That's the I 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.120 don't know. You got to decipher that for yourself. But 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.880 I'm also believed that when you don't have a first 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.400 round pick, sometimes you try to reach a little bit 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.600 more than you would otherwise because you feel like you 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.520 gotta make up for the fact that that first round 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.640 pick isn't there. And if you do have that first 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.560 round pick, then maybe you don't do that. You just 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.280 kind of follow aboard and you kind of just go 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.760 with it, right regardless, you know it is it's worth 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.960 noting because they had high hopes for him, and you 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.440 thought he'd be here maybe to battle for a spot 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.880 next year. But Donovan Olumbus still in the building, and 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.480 at the end of the day, you're talking about a 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.200 late round five pick, and it is curious what's going 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.040 to happen in a cornerback next year, though, because you know, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.440 you don't know what's going on. You don't know what 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.280 the future holds for Byron or Brown and Cheeto and 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.960 Jordan Lewis are entering the last year or their contract. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.120 So it's a pretty sneaky big need for this team, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.760 especially with him leaving, it's definitely, you know, especially now 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.560 that you have all your picks, it's definitely going to 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.560 be um. I would think of, you know, day one 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.440 or day day one or two pick. I mean, I 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.600 can't imagine them going through the first three rounds and 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.880 not taking a corner. Even if you resigned Byron Jones, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.920 I still think you have to do that to protect 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.720 yourself for the corners that are going to be up 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.360 for contracts next year. But with Anthony Brown, I just 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.880 imagine him probably leaving. You would think Mike Jackson could 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.760 have made that leap to that to that spot, but 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.440 as it stands right now, he's not the first cornerback 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.000 off the list. I don't think to be called up. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.800 I mean I think Alumba to go would have been 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.440 Alumba too. So you guys agree that, do you think 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.640 Alumba is a better the better player between hill two 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.960 right now? I think he is, but I do kind 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.760 of and this is sad to say, I kind of 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.080 think Alumba is what he is. I think I'm not 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.920 saying he can't get better, but I think you just 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.600 kind of know he's a long, rangy corner that doesn't 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:01.160 have great speed. Mike Jackson has better athleticism in it, 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.640 and you would hope, you know, he could work with 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.440 Christopher Shard and kind of take that next level, maybe 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.600 maybe leap over Alumba. But it is fair to say also, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.040 I mean, Michael Jackson could have just jumped at the 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.439 opportunity to be on a fifty three and just pieced 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.840 out of town, like he's not under any obligation to 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.040 try to turn that into a roster spot here, Like, 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.760 if I remember correctly, Blake Jarwin was like, hey, the 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.520 Eagles are telling me this, and the Cowboys were like whoa, whoa, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.760 we'll we'll fix that, whereas Mike Jackson could have just 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.640 been like cool in the world. I mean, most people 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.280 take you know, if they're making you know, one hundred grand, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.880 that they'll go for the four fifty, right, Yeah, most 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:45.200 people take that. It's weird though they yes, I'll quadrup 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.560 of my salary. Yeah, it's you know, it's a bummer 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.680 to see him go because I was intrigued by his talent. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.040 But I don't think it's this drastic life altering and 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.000 I don't news and I don't think the Cowboys really 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.760 do either, because they can they make they can make 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.640 that work. I mean, in fact, I mean we've seen 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.040 it before. You you can do whatever you want with 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.080 those players with their salary. Is there a sal is 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.240 that salary cap part of the salary cap? But I 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.320 believe Rico Gatherers was R and his salary at rookie 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.200 minimum and rookie minimum, so he was the squad player, right, yeah, yeah, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.800 so you can make the money work. It's so it's like, well, 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.880 you're not losing anything if you stay with us. They 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.600 just may not. They just may not value him in 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.680 the same see in the league, Rico, I don't believe. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.000 So the Browns cut him, which you see him at 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.639 the fair last a couple of weeks, did you really 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.440 it was him? Positive? Absolutely positive? He needs to go 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.040 to them, needs to go to like Europe, play basketball 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.760 or the G League or something. I think that's what 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.959 he should do. He probably could make some money. Think 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.240 about the weights he's been you know, he's been on 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.560 an NFL weight program for three years. I mean, now 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.520 he goes out there and plays basketball. I mean, you 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.720 know it can throw off his shot Like that's what happened. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.040 He didn't have a shot, he had to rebound. He 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.760 had a rebound. I would ever have a guessed that 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.639 we'd be talking about Rico. Why not, just because he 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.960 hasn't been on the team and not been on the show, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:06.600 we serve we will take a turn that nobody expects regularly. Fair. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.080