1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: It is Wedndesay, October thirty of twenty nineteen, season fifteen, 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: episode number seventy two. Welcome to it the latest edition 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: of The Break. We are live from the s WBC 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Morgan Studios at the Star. Got a lot to get 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: into today, some news from yesterday. We'll kind of recap um, 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and then we'll get into the New York Giant offense. 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: The news that wasn't yeah right, A lot of build 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: up for it. I mean, I think we were obviously 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: a part of that that build up because we started 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: talking about it and and I'm sure it kind of 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: that kind of fueled fans a little bit. But the 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: point is, it was a lot of stuff to talk 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: about yesterday with regards to Jamal Adams, and it ultimately 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: nothing came of it, but it was still a lot 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: of fun it was definitely a lot of fun, but 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: really depending yeah, it was fun for me. I had 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: a good time with it, not me because all night 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: and I would think about it. It felt like one 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: of those losses, like the Cowboys just lost the game 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: because you're like, they were so close to becoming a 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender like that, maybe even a favorite to 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. In my opinion, I really 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: think that that would have got them over the top 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen based off of a second or 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: third round pick. They didn't give it whatever it was. 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: It's like, man, they were close from getting a lot 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: better in five minutes, hard to get better in five minutes, 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: and that I think they could have been see that. 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't know all those stories I see. I mean, 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I hear you, and you know it's it's conflicting because 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: you're right, like what you just said is true. But 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, like what if I told you 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: could win a big, big game that puts you in, 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, pole position for the bye week in the playoffs, 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: number one scene home field throughout, but you're gonna lose 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: three of your best players. Would you take that? I don't, 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: because that's the one we're going with. It's going to 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: cost you a first and two seconds reportedly, or maybe 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: two firsts. So your hand string. You're hamstringing not just one, 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: but two of your next drafts to do that, and 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: that I mean, that's come back and say, well, I'll 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: just go without Tristan Hill. Then okay, I'll come back 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and say, all right, you can't have Layton vander esh 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup either. Okay, I mean, but tank or 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: Tank or Jalen Smith, you know, I mean, we keep 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: going with the second rounds. I mean, well, the ones 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about were much longer, but go ahead, 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: I'll I mean, I get your point. Yeah, But but 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: you are You've been trying to get safety, and now 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: you don't have to get a safety. So I mean 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: you have a safety for the next hopefully four to 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: five six years. I mean you have. You finally got one, 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: and you stole one. You stole a number six overall 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: pick because you're getting one with a late first round pick, 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: and you had to throw in some other picks in 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: there as well. It's right on the borderline of it 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: really is right on the borderline of whether or not 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: I would have done it like you could you could 65 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: have talked me into it. I said that on Twitter yesterday. 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I was like, if this, if this reported price is accurate, 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: you probably could have talked me into it. But I 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: can't sit here and kill the Cowboys for not being 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: willing to give up three picks that are that valuable, 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: not when we've seen what they can do with them. 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And that's cool if you're pissed off about Tristan Hill, 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: their track record speaks for itself. Yeah. To me though, 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: and I know that people don't like to say this, 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: but I mean if you're losing a second round pick 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and then maybe another second round pick, I mean that's 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: basically what it is, because you you can't overlook the 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: fact that you're getting a first round player, right, but 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: you're giving up that first rounder so that you look 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: at and you're like, yeah, you probably did okay there. Yeah, 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: the problem becomes now you've given up reportedly two more 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: second round picks, and that's where you and I were 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: walking down this path a little bit earlier before the show, 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: and my thought was, okay, yeah, you just you secure 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: your safety position for a while, is what you think. 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: But what are you not going to do? At cornerback, 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: where you've got some question marks on the future. Right, 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at defensive tackle where you've 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: got some question marks at on the future? What are 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: you gonna do at defensive end? Well, you've got some 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: question marks on the future. It's nice to say, well, 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: we'll just have to go out and find those guys, 92 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: but you've just hamstrung yourself because the picks where you 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: could get better players, and I know you can go 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: to third, fourth, fifth round and maybe maybe get one. 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: The problem is for every round you go down, it 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: becomes it becomes exponentially harder to find a player that's 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: actually gonna be able to step in and be a 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: good player for you. This team has twenty eight guys 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: entering unrestricted free agency at the end of the season, 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and many twenty eight. Yeah, and not all of those 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: are guys that they're going to care about losing, obviously, 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: but some of them are. A decent number of them are. 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: And that's I get it. Like I said, it's it's 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: tough to call because, like you want to push your 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: chips in and this is a talented team. You got 106 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: a short window until all these cap hits start to 107 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: come home and he could put you over the top. 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: But what if you don't win that Super Bowl? What 109 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: if what if they get to the second round and 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: lose in disappointing fashion again, and then you you're losing 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: guys in free agency, maybe you're changing coaches, And then 112 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: you're sitting there thinking, we don't pick until pick number 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: ninety five. We're waiting until pick ninety five to add 114 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: somebody to this roster. And that's cool that we have 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, but we got other needs too, because MALIEK. 116 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Collins left in free agency, Robert Quinn left in free agency, 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Byron Jones is on a franchise tag. We don't know 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: what's going to happen there, on and on and on 119 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: and on and on. All of those problems are going 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: to be fixed by your second rounder that you can 121 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: no but maybe one of them will right maybe, But 122 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: but but you also had for draft twenty twenty third overall, 123 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: twenty fourth overall. I mean, who are you guaranteeing that 124 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: is going to play well? Not necessarily, but the point 125 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: is that means now it's even lower than that. So 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: the chances that we already know the chances of getting 127 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: that guy at the end of the first round is 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: not as good as getting at the top of the 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: first round. So if that's hard, how much hard is 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: it getting them late second, late third, late fourth, late fifth. 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, for every round you go down, it is 132 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: infinite and it is more hard. Is much harder to 133 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: find a replacement player. You know, Well, we're arguing about 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: stuff we don't know about. We I mean, if if 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: we had a deal on the table, that we could 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: sit there and go, this is the deal, but we don't. 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean the report from yeah, I think it was 138 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Jane Slayter combined on it. The report 139 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: was that it's a first and two seconds. I don't 140 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: know one hundred percent if that's true. We heard. We 141 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: also heard another report was that it was a little 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: bit less than Jalen Ramsey's price, which was two firsts 143 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and a fourth. So I don't know. The truth is 144 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: probably in there somewhere. It would have been quite a 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: haul of premium draft pick. I will just say this, 146 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: if the report is true of the one in two seconds, 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, Dave that with a with 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure, it's right, you might have 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: been able to talk me into it's right. But yes, 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about this on the show. I said, 151 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you guys first said I'd do one 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: in a two, my first thought was, oh boy, that's 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: that's pricey. One in the four sign me up all 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: day every now, but you're one of the three sign 155 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: me up all day every day. One of the two 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: gets to that point where I'm kind of like, oh gosh, 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that's that's tough. But I could have 158 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: been persuaded just for what Nick is saying, which is 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: you get the premier safety in the in the game, 160 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and getting the premier safety in the game matters, right, 161 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: It certainly matters. I'm not sitting here trying to like 162 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: defend the company line. I don't think there's a wrong 163 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: answer to this. I think Nick is Nick is justified 164 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: to be frustrated if if you think that he can 165 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: really do all that for you. But it's their job 166 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to think about two, three, four years in the future 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: as well. And again, with all these contracts you gotta pay, 168 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: you need draft picks to replace some of that production 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: that you're losing. That's the way this works. So Man, 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: as an LSU alum nobody would be more excited than 171 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: me if Jamal Adams was on this team, but I 172 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: understand their hesitation. If that was indeed the price. Well, 173 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna put a pin in this conversation because in 174 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the next what I don't know how many months, when 175 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you get to free agency, that's honestly, I mean, and 176 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: the period opens again where teams can negotiate, maybe this 177 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: comes back around and maybe there's something I don't know 178 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: is you know, that's the thing about that's what I 179 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: love about the NFL and what I loved about yesterday. 180 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: I know you said it wasn't fun for you. It 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: was fun for me, just because that's a fun part 182 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: about being an NFL fan is when you have some 183 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: when they're actual trades that are happening, then it allows 184 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: you to think about your team in a whole different 185 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: way and say, man, what if what if we could 186 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: get this guy? What if we could get this guy? 187 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: How much better would it make us? And it just 188 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: makes it fun. It makes the whole thing fun, you know. 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,119 Speaker 1: I yeah, I said that yesterday. I was like, regardless 190 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: of what does or doesn't happen, I love that the 191 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: trade deadline is a thing now and but some people 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: came back and me like, no, it's not like nothing's 193 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: getting done. I'm like, just because nothing's happening at the 194 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: wire doesn't mean things aren't happening. There were a lot 195 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: of trades. You saw Brandon Peters get shipped. You saw 196 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: obviously Jalen Ramsey. Um they sent a keep tell leave 197 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: to Miami yesterday. They did they send slay out of 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Detroit or was it no quads they sent out of Detroit? 199 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean there was Leonard Williams was another one. There 200 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: were a lot of deals. And you know, even three 201 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: years ago, I would have been like, shut up about 202 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams or you know, not gonna happen. It's just 203 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: it won't happen. And now that is that's clearly not true. 204 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: And that's that's fun for everybody, even if it didn't 205 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: happen for the Cowboys this year. And the fact is, 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: the reports are that there was lots of conversation. So 207 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: the point that there was conversation meant that there were 208 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: people that were willing to do deals. It just never 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: could come to a conclusion that seems like it would 210 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: have worked for for both sides. That's just the nature 211 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: of negotiation. All right, we appreciate you guys. We're gonna 212 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: go ahead and take a break. We're gonna take a break. 213 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: When we come back. I do want to hit a 214 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: quick piece of news. One cowboy is now off the 215 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: roster and heading to Detroit. We'll talk about that when 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. 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It is the second 254 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios. 255 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: At the start, let's get into a little bit of 256 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: quick news here before we jump to the New York Giants. 257 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Dave's got his scouting court for us on the Giants offense. 258 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: But today we find out Cowboys lost cornerback Michael Jackson. 259 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: He was signed to the active roster for the Detroit 260 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: Lions from the Cowboys practice squad, and normally you don't 261 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: that really doesn't take much conversation. But the reason why 262 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up to you guys is 263 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: because I think Michael Jackson was a player the Cowboys 264 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: obviously liked. He was okay in training camp this year. 265 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, for a rookie, there were some moments that 266 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: he had. But when you look at the cornerback position, 267 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: and you look at this, as I mentioned a little earlier, 268 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of that position, how much does this kind 269 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: to move affect the Cowboys going into the future where 270 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: they may be looking at this thing saying, hey, we 271 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: need that depth. We expect him to be better next year. 272 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: We really were looking to have that depth around, but 273 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: we just don't have the room to make them a 274 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: part of our active roster. I think if they would 275 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: really wanted them, they could have protected them, especially when 276 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago they had injuries at corner, 277 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: some uncertainties there. You know, they could have maybe used him. 278 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like, just like we talked about with 279 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Eagles try to get Blake 280 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Jarwin and then they kind was said, now we're gonna 281 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: make room for him. They could have found a way 282 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: to make room if they really wanted them. I'm sure 283 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: they would have liked to keep them, but you know, 284 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: you can't keep everyone, and that's why you expose them 285 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: when you put them on practical one. Nick, make the 286 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: joke that you told me earlier. I don't want to 287 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: steal your joke. Michael Jackson going back to Motown. Yeah, 288 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: it's perfect. Well, I didn't know, honestly. I was like, 289 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: I thought it was from that area. Well, he's from Indiana, 290 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the singers from Indiana. But like Motown Records is in Detroit, right. 291 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I mean it the narrative 292 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: was that you were drafting this guy to kind of develop, 293 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: and he fits for Shard's mold and he can be 294 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: there for you. It just it didn't pan out. Um. Yeah, 295 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, it's hard to feel like 296 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: they got bambooz old or anything, because if they really 297 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: wanted to protect him, they could have. I will say 298 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: it's early, it's you know, it's October of their rookie year. 299 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: But this draft class is not off to a great start. 300 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: It's just not the and and Jackson is the you 301 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: don't have a first round. Well, it's a difference, yeah, 302 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: because when they start reaching sometimes when they don't have 303 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: that first round, that's what that's the mistakes that talked 304 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: about yesterday. Absolutely, but Jackson's the first guy to leave 305 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: the organization. Um. Jelkes is on Iru Hills obviously, here, 306 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: McGovern's on Irber, Webber's on the practice squad. Joe Jackson 307 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: is on the active roster. But you know, you don't 308 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: have a Tony Pollard being the one guy that's that's 309 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: doing something for you, arguably not enough. Not his fault, 310 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: but you don't have a first round pick and you 311 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: pick at the back end of the round, which then 312 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: that's the other side of that coin of like, well, 313 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: if we think the Cowboys are good, maybe those picks 314 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: they would have had to give up aren't as valuable 315 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: as we're making them out to be. That's the I 316 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: don't know. You got to decipher that for yourself. But 317 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm also believed that when you don't have a first 318 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: round pick, sometimes you try to reach a little bit 319 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: more than you would otherwise because you feel like you 320 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: gotta make up for the fact that that first round 321 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: pick isn't there. And if you do have that first 322 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: round pick, then maybe you don't do that. You just 323 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of follow aboard and you kind of just go 324 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: with it, right regardless, you know it is it's worth 325 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: noting because they had high hopes for him, and you 326 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: thought he'd be here maybe to battle for a spot 327 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: next year. But Donovan Olumbus still in the building, and 328 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're talking about a 329 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: late round five pick, and it is curious what's going 330 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: to happen in a cornerback next year, though, because you know, 331 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on. You don't know what 332 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: the future holds for Byron or Brown and Cheeto and 333 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis are entering the last year or their contract. 334 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: So it's a pretty sneaky big need for this team, 335 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: especially with him leaving, it's definitely, you know, especially now 336 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: that you have all your picks, it's definitely going to 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: be um. I would think of, you know, day one 338 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: or day day one or two pick. I mean, I 339 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: can't imagine them going through the first three rounds and 340 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: not taking a corner. Even if you resigned Byron Jones, 341 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I still think you have to do that to protect 342 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: yourself for the corners that are going to be up 343 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: for contracts next year. But with Anthony Brown, I just 344 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: imagine him probably leaving. You would think Mike Jackson could 345 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: have made that leap to that to that spot, but 346 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: as it stands right now, he's not the first cornerback 347 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: off the list. I don't think to be called up. 348 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think Alumba to go would have been 349 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Alumba too. So you guys agree that, do you think 350 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Alumba is a better the better player between hill two 351 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: right now? I think he is, but I do kind 352 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: of and this is sad to say, I kind of 353 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: think Alumba is what he is. I think I'm not 354 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: saying he can't get better, but I think you just 355 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of know he's a long, rangy corner that doesn't 356 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: have great speed. Mike Jackson has better athleticism in it, 357 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: and you would hope, you know, he could work with 358 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: Christopher Shard and kind of take that next level, maybe 359 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe leap over Alumba. But it is fair to say also, 360 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jackson could have just jumped at the 361 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: opportunity to be on a fifty three and just pieced 362 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: out of town, like he's not under any obligation to 363 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: try to turn that into a roster spot here, Like, 364 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Blake Jarwin was like, hey, the 365 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Eagles are telling me this, and the Cowboys were like whoa, whoa, 366 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: we'll we'll fix that, whereas Mike Jackson could have just 367 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: been like cool in the world. I mean, most people 368 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: take you know, if they're making you know, one hundred grand, 369 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: that they'll go for the four fifty, right, Yeah, most 370 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: people take that. It's weird though they yes, I'll quadrup 371 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: of my salary. Yeah, it's you know, it's a bummer 372 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: to see him go because I was intrigued by his talent. 373 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's this drastic life altering and 374 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't news and I don't think the Cowboys really 375 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: do either, because they can they make they can make 376 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: that work. I mean, in fact, I mean we've seen 377 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: it before. You you can do whatever you want with 378 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: those players with their salary. Is there a sal is 379 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: that salary cap part of the salary cap? But I 380 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: believe Rico Gatherers was R and his salary at rookie 381 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: minimum and rookie minimum, so he was the squad player, right, yeah, yeah, 382 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: so you can make the money work. It's so it's like, well, 383 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: you're not losing anything if you stay with us. They 384 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: just may not. They just may not value him in 385 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the same see in the league, Rico, I don't believe. 386 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: So the Browns cut him, which you see him at 387 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: the fair last a couple of weeks, did you really 388 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: it was him? Positive? Absolutely positive? He needs to go 389 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: to them, needs to go to like Europe, play basketball 390 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: or the G League or something. I think that's what 391 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: he should do. He probably could make some money. Think 392 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: about the weights he's been you know, he's been on 393 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: an NFL weight program for three years. I mean, now 394 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: he goes out there and plays basketball. I mean, you 395 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: know it can throw off his shot Like that's what happened. 396 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: He didn't have a shot, he had to rebound. He 397 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: had a rebound. I would ever have a guessed that 398 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: we'd be talking about Rico. Why not, just because he 399 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been on the team and not been on the show, 400 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: we serve we will take a turn that nobody expects regularly. Fair. 401 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's go into this New York 402 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: Giant offense. Date. Tell me a little bit about this office. 403 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: We Cowboys obviously have played them already. We saw their offense. 404 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: It's a little different. It's way different. It's not the 405 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: same thing at all. They replaced the quarterback. Um, the 406 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: their best receiver is back on the team after not 407 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: being there for the opener. Um. I'm not trying to 408 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: tell you that they're world beaters, but I just think 409 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: I think they're a lot more competent than they were 410 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: the last time we saw them. And sake, I mean, 411 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: sa Quan was there for Week one. He played great, 412 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: we know that, but he was missing. So now they've 413 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: got him back to um this is this is a 414 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: this is a fast group in my opinion, Like that's 415 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: my big impression from watching them is like they are 416 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: athletically um designed. I don't know how basically. My point is, 417 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: obviously they got sa Quan Daniel Jones is much more 418 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: athletic than you want to get him credit for, certainly 419 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: much more athletic than Eli Manning. And then you've got 420 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram being your top playmaker, who is essentially a 421 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: big wide receiver. Like this is a team that basically 422 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: runs ten personnel a lot, because when they have three 423 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: receivers in a tight end, it's basically four receivers. And 424 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: that's something that intrigues me with how the Cowboys will 425 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: handle it because it's a lot of speed and athleticism. 426 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: I watched this game against the Lions. Say, Quon Barclay's 427 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: so good man. He ran for sixty four, he caught 428 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: nine passes for eighty yards and a touchdown. He does 429 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: it all. He can. He can go downfield, he can 430 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: go across the middle. And then Golden Tate is really 431 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we know he's good. We've seen him play 432 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys a million times. He actually killed them when 433 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: he was with the Lions last year. He's basically Jones's 434 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: safety net. Like every single route I saw him run 435 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: was like a crossing route or something to give Jones 436 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: an outlet pass. And they're they're moving the ball pretty good. Um, 437 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued to see Daniel Jones against the secondary 438 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: because he's got the arm, strength and the confidence to 439 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: make plays down field. I don't think he sees the 440 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: game that well yet, which makes sense. Yeah, but he'll 441 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: hang back there for six seconds if you let him. Yeah. 442 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: So the last offensive perform really well. That's the thing 443 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: is like they gave him time against Trey Flowers and 444 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: like a you know, a pretty decent Detroit front. You 445 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: got Snacks Harrison up there. He got sacked three times. 446 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: I don't think any of them were because he didn't 447 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: have time. He holds the ball, he really does, and 448 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: they strip sacked him twice return one for a touchdown. Um. 449 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: This this this pass rush, it's gonna I think it's 450 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a challenge because I think the line, the 451 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: Giant's line is better than it has been, but Daniel 452 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: Jones is going to give them time to get back there. 453 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I think talk about strowing Shepherd. Is he back this week? 454 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: Is the expectation he's back this week? Ah, that's a 455 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: great question, honestly, don't think. I don't think he is 456 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: either a concussion, right. I know he's he's a guy, 457 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: and it's hardered me to keep up with him. I'm 458 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: not this I had him on Fantasy and I remember 459 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: looking at the advice, which could be kind of crazy 460 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: sometimes because I've I've clicked on advice before and it 461 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: was my own report. So I'm like, oh, I don't 462 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: know anything. Participate participating today with the expectation that he 463 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: will be cleared at some point this week. So that 464 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make it even more interesting Because you talked about 465 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: an offense. It has a lot of guys running around, move, 466 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: move around, move. It got some speed sterling just another 467 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: one of those guys. I'm interested to see how that 468 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: works because I mean, Shephard likes to work out of 469 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: the slot. Tate's been working out of the slot since 470 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: he came back to the Giants. I don't fear their 471 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: outside options really, don't. They have a young guy that's 472 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: They got a guy out the name of Darius Slayton. 473 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: He's a he's a mid round pick out of Auburn 474 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: brought us absolutely loved him. He's definite big numbers. Last 475 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: we didn't know he did, and he had a he 476 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: had a really great like Dez type of touchdown. He 477 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: went up and high pointed the ball and just out 478 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: muscled the DBF Like he's he's a good player. But 479 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't. It's it's not you know, this this juggernaut 480 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: that that I'm just worried, like he's just gonna eat 481 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: outside the numbers, Like I don't necessarily buy that to 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: be the case. So I wonder, you know, between Ingram, 483 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe Shepherd and then obviously Golden Tate, Like that's a 484 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: lot of work that you're gonna be doing between the numbers, 485 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, because that's where these guys like to run. Yeah, well, 486 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: think about I think on this offense is when you 487 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: got sa Quon back there, he becomes the top priority 488 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: of trying to stop him, which makes it so so 489 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: much easier for everybody else to be able to operate. 490 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I yeah, it's so easy to say, like we'll just 491 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: focus on se Quon Barkley and then make everybody else 492 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: beat you. And that would be great if you can. 493 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: But that's what's so scary about him is he's so 494 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: he's so good, Like that's the you watch him. He's 495 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: running flare outs, he's running wheel routes, he's running angle 496 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: routes in between the numbers. He had a forty yard 497 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: gain where he just kind of up out and end 498 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: and hip the tackle. Uh. He's spend moving people, he's 499 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: jumped cutting people. He's not Barry Sanders, like nobody ever 500 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: will be. I get that, but like that's the vibe 501 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I get watching him because he's that type of player 502 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: that you can have him dead to rights and he'll 503 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: do something to get out of it. Laughing about Barry 504 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Sanders just because maybe it's because I was watching him 505 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: play the Lions, but that's I was just like this 506 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: guy he's never contained and he's also he's I mean, 507 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: but he's got like Zeke type of power. Like I'm 508 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: sure you saw the stiff arm he put on them 509 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of that game. It was gross. Great, 510 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's everything you wanted a running back. 511 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: And honestly, like for the money that the Cowboys gave Zeke, 512 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: that's the way they they should be using him. Yes, sorry, 513 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he is, He's hey, I always That's not 514 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the first time I've answered that question. And I can 515 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: point you to a tweet from like seventeen where Zeke 516 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: said that himself, he is better, he's more athletic, and 517 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: he's also you know, he's strong, load to take down, 518 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: and he's fast. Right, That's yeah, He's got all of 519 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the same power and finishing ability with a type of 520 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: elusiveness that I mean not just like it's not just 521 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: that Zeke doesn't have it, who does? But maybe Christian 522 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey may what I will. You know, I've seen this 523 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: with all running backs. You know, the Cowboys are fans 524 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: are saying, well, what's up with Zeke? Now? You know, 525 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: why doesn't he look the same? None of those guys 526 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: look the same. Google Look at Julius Jones his first 527 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: year compared to his third and fourth. I mean, they're different. 528 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: This is see what happens after his third years. Same 529 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: with McCaffrey too. I mean, these guys are taking a 530 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: lot of hits and so they may not look the same, 531 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: just like Zeke doesn't really look the same. Still productive 532 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: I will, I just I mean, and I'll say this 533 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: for Zeke, Like I think he can do most of 534 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: the stuff that sae Quon can, maybe not as explosively 535 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: and not the you know, not the constant jumping and 536 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: spinning and all that crazy stuff. But like we've seen 537 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: Zeke catch wheel routes twenty five yards down field. We've 538 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: seen him take you know, four yard dump offs and 539 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: turn them into longer gains. Like I just add for 540 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: the millionth time, like I just don't think the Cowboys try. 541 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: It's hard to scheme up touches for him that way, 542 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: in the same way they don't with Tony Pollard. I 543 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: paint by numbers. I'll say it again, Like, it just 544 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: doesn't look as creative to me, because he can do 545 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: that stuff. We've seen him do it in fits and 546 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: spurts before. But yeah, if they can slow him down, 547 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: then hell yeah, Like let's let's put Daniel Jones back 548 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: in the pocket and make him bomb away to win, 549 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: because like, I don't trust that he can one hundred 550 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: percent do that. The problem is just when say Quine 551 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: can do so much stuff, how do you completely limit 552 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: it all? That's a big thing. You've told us a 553 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of really good stuff about this offense. We're gonna 554 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, I'm gonna ask 555 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: you the question, what do they not do well? And 556 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: what can be exploited on this giant's office? 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Back to the Break Welcome back, 594 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: final segment of The Break. Lackins WBC Mortgage Studios at 595 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: the Star. Nick, what you got for us, Well, we 596 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: got single game tickets that are coming up, not this week, 597 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: but you better get on because the Viking get out 598 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: him into town with Dan Bailey and Mike Zimmer NFC 599 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Player Offensive our Special Teams Player of the Week Special 600 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Teams Player. The second time in the last month. Did 601 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots sign Nick Danny? Yeah, they did so cool. 602 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: So we got two former Cowboy kickers that the couple 603 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: vocals still around me neither. He's been a while around. 604 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Desperate times call for desperate measures. You say he's pretty round. Now, 605 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I did an at and t stay in November tenth 606 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: as they take on the Minnesota Vikings. Get your tickets 607 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: now at Dallas Cowboys dot com. So he's been around, 608 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: That's not what you say he has. He's been doing 609 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of teams. To Dan, he was a Pro 610 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Bowl kicker for the Cowboys as a rookie. But that's 611 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: Nick Folk we're talking about. Dan Bailey arguably the best 612 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Danny B and Cowboys history. Uh not if you're looking 613 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: at longest field goals, that would be maher. But think 614 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: we can get him on the pregame show, Who Danny? 615 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. November ten Zo Dallas Cowboys 616 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: dot Com get some tickets for that game, probably just 617 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: very limited amount left over another night game. It should 618 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: be fun and it's gonna be a rematch or a 619 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: preview to the NFC Wall Card game. That's what I think, 620 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: all right? And oh yeah, that's probably what that means. 621 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: That means you've already given us your prediction for this week, 622 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: but that the Cowboys would win. Yeah. I have a 623 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: hard time thinking they lose to the Giants and win 624 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: the division. It's a big win if you can beat 625 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: the Giants and get to four and oh because if 626 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: you get to four and in the division, then you 627 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: know the Eagles. The only way the Eagles are really 628 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna beat you when it comes to a tiebreakers. They 629 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: have to win out all their division games if they 630 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: remain tied, right. But that's that's the thing. Like, honestly, 631 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I look at this and I say, Cowboys, really they 632 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: can only hurt themselves this week. They can't necessarily help 633 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: themselves because I think, just like well, no listens saying, 634 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm listening, just like they can, Just like they can 635 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: go through the NFC East and win their games, I 636 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: think Eagles could do the same thing. And if the 637 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: Eagles come back and beat the Cowboys and they beat 638 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: Washington in New York, which I think they're very capable 639 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: of doing, then they're still both five and one in 640 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: the division, right, so it's still gonna come down to 641 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: their actual record at the end of the day. So 642 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: really the game that's most pivotal, most pivotal is that 643 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: game that they're going to have against the Eagles, because 644 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles can do the same thing they 645 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: can do in this division. I don't think the Giants 646 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: and the Redskins are close to the Eagles and the 647 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys just overall as far as quality of their talent, 648 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: quality of their team. I think there's a clear separation. 649 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: If one of those teams happens to jump up and 650 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: bite one of them, though, I think that's where you 651 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: can hurt yourself. So I think the Cowboys can really 652 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: hurt themselves way more than help themselves this week. It's 653 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, any any win is gonna help you, especially 654 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: if it's an individually. But I hear what you're saying, 655 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I mean, the only what's the one 656 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: game that Eagles play in the division that they could 657 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: lose other than the Cowboys and probably at the Giants. 658 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: So you know this divisions like you could lose any 659 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: one of those games. The point, the point is both 660 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: of these teams are better than those other two teams. 661 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: Anything can happen, and nobody saw the seven and one 662 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: run coming last year. Maybe the Cowboys finished this season 663 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: thirteen and three. Maybe, but well, if you had Jamal Adams, 664 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: if you had to bet, if you had to bet 665 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: on an outcome, don't Don't you just feel like the 666 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: winner of the NFC East is gonna have nine or 667 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: ten wins and they'll probably be the fourth seed and 668 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to that Week sixteen game in Philly. 669 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: So that's my point. So it all is about that game. 670 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: That's the game that's gonna matter the most is Cowboys 671 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: versus Eagles. Second to last week, I had somebody on Twitter, 672 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter sent and they were like, this is 673 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: this is how I think it's gonna play out, and 674 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: he like separated into three categories. It was like they 675 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: better win these. It was this Giants game, the Bills game, 676 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: in the Redskins game. Better win those. And then it 677 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: was like, probably gonna lose this one, and it was 678 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: the Pats. And then it was like these are up 679 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: for grabs. Vikings, Yeah, you need to win two or 680 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: three of these Vikings, Bears, Rams and whoever else. I'm 681 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: forgetting Lions, No Lions. And then the last category was 682 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: like this is what it's going to come down to 683 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: at Philly. I was like, this is one hundred percent correct, 684 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: exactly right. There's no way you can convince me that 685 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Week sixteen won't be the biggest game. And that's why, 686 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: good chance we're probably gonna be working that night, because 687 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: that's a game that the NFL is gonna be looking at, 688 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: because that's going to probably be your division winner right now. 689 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's way ahead of ourselves. And it just 690 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: seems to this game though you just said, you know, 691 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of the whole philosophy that we've 692 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: always disagreed about it about do you play to win 693 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: or do you play not to lose? And I'm like, 694 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: what's the difference if you said this game right here, 695 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: it would would It would definitely hurt you if you lose, 696 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: then it helps you if you win. I mean, because 697 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to, you don't want to lose. You 698 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: don't want to, you can't lose it. You're right, You're right, 699 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: it's the same. It really is the same thing. My 700 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: point is, though, if the Cowboys win, when we come 701 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: back on Tuesday morning, it's gonna be like, Okay, well 702 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: they took care of their business, like that's it's just 703 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: much better than that. If they lose, now it's a 704 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: whole different discussion because now you've just opened the door 705 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: much wider for the Eagles to step into that thing 706 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: and now be the division winner. And I don't think 707 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: the NFC East is gonna have I think we're all 708 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: pretty much agree they're not gonna have to play two 709 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: teams from the NFC East in the ploffs. It's going 710 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: to be the division winner. So that's where I'm saying 711 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: that the losses hurt you way more than the win 712 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: helps you. How much better? How much different would this 713 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: conversation be if they'd like kicked a game winning field goal, 714 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: even the ugliest win ever against the Jets. You're talking 715 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: about going up to be six and two. Ye, you're talking. 716 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean if there's if they win this game and 717 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: go to six and two, you're like, we're right in 718 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: the thick of the hunt for a bye week. Yeah, 719 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: they've lost at that point. You were lost to two 720 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: teams that are seven and one, right, which you feel 721 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: really good about. Well, like you feel as good as 722 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: you can about two losses, right, It's who knows. I mean, 723 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: I would be equally unsurprised if they tore off some 724 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: crazy winst you. I don't know what to expect. You 725 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: have a terrible loss sitting there like the Cowboys will 726 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: have all year. You better you better get a win 727 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: that you don't expect. Well, I will say this, that's 728 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: the only way to in my opinion, the only way 729 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: to make that Jets game better is you got to 730 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: go beat the Patriots. Yeah, you got to steal one, 731 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: because you got one stolen from you. The one thing 732 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: I will is, I do believe and I know yesterday 733 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: and I ask you about this this morning, that the 734 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: whole thing that with Jamal Adams, did that change or 735 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: make you almost forget about Michael Bennett. The one thing 736 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I know is that as of the when they made 737 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: that trade from Michael Bennett, they got better. In my opinion, 738 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: they got significantly better, because I think if the pass 739 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: rush is better, everything else on the defense gets better, 740 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: and I think the pass rush got better. So that 741 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: being said, I do think there's reason to believe the 742 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys could get on a run and be able to 743 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: win some games here, even some games that they may 744 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: not have otherwise been able to win without him. Yeah, 745 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: I think they set themselves up nicely. Like you said, 746 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: it would have been nicer if they had that other guy. 747 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: But I do think having Michael Bennett makes a big difference, 748 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: and we'll see how much of a difference starting this 749 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: weekend that will make Dave. Real quick though, tell me 750 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: what the Giant's office does not do well. I just 751 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I gave him a lot of credit for 752 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: how athletic they are, but I think it hinders their versatility. 753 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Like you know, say what you will about Jason Witten, 754 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: but he can help you in both facets. Evan Ingram 755 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: is a terrible blocker. I mean he's a big wide 756 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: receiver and he can disappear sometimes just as a receiver games, 757 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah he can't. I mean the Cowboys, He's had garbage 758 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: yards against them, but like he has not killed the 759 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys in crucial situations the way that other rival players have, 760 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: I think. But like they have to change their personnel 761 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: when they want to play you know, traditional NFL poward football. 762 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: They rhet Ellison comes in, they load up the line 763 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: that it's very obvious they like draw guys into the box, 764 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: and sa Quan can offset that because he's so good. 765 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: But this is not an offense in my opinion, that 766 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: can impose its will on people, especially with a rookie 767 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: quarterback who's still getting used to the flow of the game. 768 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: So I think it can work very well for them 769 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: because they you know, they spread things out there, very athletic. 770 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: But like, let's not kid ourselves either. They're still not 771 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: winning games, even though they look more competent with Daniel Jones, 772 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: and I think they can be a little bit one dimensional, 773 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: Like they run for good yards per carry, but again, 774 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: how much of that is just because sa Quan is 775 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: so special, Like they don't run the ball particularly well 776 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: as a team. I think you can make them one dimensional. 777 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: I don't think they're particularly scary on the boundaries. I 778 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: think that's good news for Cheeto and Byron Jones. So 779 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: rally and tackle and I think you can make them 780 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: one dimensional and beat them that way. And hopefully if 781 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: you can do that, I love the idea of Daniel 782 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: Jones throwing it fifty times because you'll have chances at 783 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: strips and picks. They strip sacked him twice. One of 784 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: them was a touchdown. I'm talking about the Lions, Like, 785 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: that's the difference in the game again obvious. I mean, 786 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: it's football one on one, But make him throw a 787 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: bunch of times and I think you can take advantage 788 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: of it. It seems like turnovers are an issue for him. 789 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: The flip side of that is that's not something that 790 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys particularly do well. Is did it well against the Eagles? 791 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: They did, so we'll see four of them. Well, we'll 792 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: see which team shows up this week. Is it going 793 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: to be that team or is it gonna be another team? 794 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: I do have a question real quick, I want to 795 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: get to from Twitter. We had a question from Justin Espo. 796 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: He says, when will we see Donovan Wilson get Wilson 797 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: get some playing time? Is that a conversation worth having. 798 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Do you think the Cowboys to look at some of 799 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: these guys that played really well in the preseason at 800 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: safety and maybe start trying to feel figure out how 801 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: to get them on the field a little bit more. Yeah, 802 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you want to you want to find 803 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: those those ways. And obviously there is a need for safety. 804 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: We know this that Cowboys have you looked into it, 805 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: not to the point to make the trade, but you 806 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: know they want to get better there of course, And 807 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, we'll see what happens with 808 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: all these injured guys coming back, and everybody should be 809 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: relatively healthy. I think when that happens, he's probably back 810 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: to being inactive. But I know he's a good special 811 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: teams player. He's becoming, you know, a player I think 812 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys will use there. So I don't think 813 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: they're ready to like bench a player. I forget it would. 814 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it would take an injury for him to 815 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: get a real shot. And I know people don't want 816 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: to hear that, but you know, the coaching staff that 817 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: that you're working with here like this is that's kind 818 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: of their mo They trust the guys that they have 819 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: they'd rather deal with the limitations that Jeff Heathan, more 820 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: so Jeff Heath than Xavier Woods. But they'd rather deal 821 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: with the limitations those guys have and unknown commodity rather 822 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: than throw a guy out there who you don't know 823 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: just how ready for it he is. And I'm not 824 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: saying I necessarily agree, but I'm just telling you the 825 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: way it is. And yeah, I haven't heard or seen 826 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: anything that makes me think they're going to make a 827 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: move like that. I think if if the Cowboys were 828 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: to give up another eighty ninety yard deep ball and 829 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: Jeff Heath was on the other end of it, I 830 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: think it's time you really would have to start thinking, 831 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: all right, we got we gotta do something different, because 832 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: the one thing you would always say about Heath and 833 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Woods and Heath and whoever was back there is they 834 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: don't give up big plays. But they gave up a really, 835 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: really big play to the Jets and they lost the game. 836 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: They give up more plays like that, I think I 837 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: think you have to start saying, all right, we gotta 838 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: get better here. And we know that Heath is on 839 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, last year of his deal, is probably not 840 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: going to get resigned, so you know, if it gets 841 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: to the point where we have to we think, you know, 842 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson will be better. I think that they would 843 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: do that. I think it would have to be a weekly, 844 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: systematic failure. And you can criticize Heath all you want. 845 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: The ninety two yard touchdown to the Jets was terrible. 846 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: I think there that hasn't happened to the degree of, 847 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, consistency to where you do something. He probably 848 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: replaces Darien Thompson as the third safety. First, I was 849 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna say the ironic thing is everybody's asking us about Wilson. 850 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: If they decided to bench the safety, they'd probably put 851 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: Darreyan Thompson in there. And again, I know that's not 852 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: what people want to hear, but I think that's what 853 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: would happen. All right, we appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We're 854 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: back tomorrow for Nick even Dave Helmet. I'm Derek Eakleton. 855 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 856 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 857 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.