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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.

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Speaker 1: It is the off season for the Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: and one of Ashley and I. That's that's wrong, right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna yield that. Actually. Yeah. One of Ashley and

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Speaker 1: My favorite things to do is to sit down in

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Speaker 1: the off season and talk to some of Bachelor Nation's

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Speaker 1: favorites about them as people, their lives, what they're learning,

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Speaker 1: what they're experiencing, what their future is. This is an

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Speaker 1: in depth episode with Dr Joe Park and we cannot

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Speaker 1: be more pumped for. Actually, you've been waiting for this

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Speaker 1: one for a while. What are you feeling. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited. I'm just so excited to have an in

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Speaker 1: depth and especially with such a fan favorite from the

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Speaker 1: past season or two. And Joe was just announced as

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Speaker 1: like the first contestant to be going to Paradise I

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Speaker 1: believe confirmed because Rob Mills did tweet that out a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. So we'll talk to him about that,

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Speaker 1: and then at the end of this episode we'll have headlines.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Hey, uh, Ashley, let's bring him in.

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Speaker 1: Dr Joe. What's going on, buddy? Hey, what's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Not much, just you're just living it. That's the way

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Speaker 1: to do, just living in al right, old Joe. So

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Speaker 1: with these many in depths or in depth, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it, we really start with the beginning

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Speaker 1: of somebody's life, you know, their childhood. So can you

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Speaker 1: tell us about your your nuclear family, what your childhood

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Speaker 1: even marriage did your parents have? All that? Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm into it. Yeah for sure. So it was a

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Speaker 1: dark and stormy night. It was Mark study one. M Mar.

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Speaker 1: Your birthday, isn't you? Yeah, it's coming. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. UM. But now these birthdays are

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Speaker 1: this point of my life. So but thank you. Thirty seven. Huh,

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Speaker 1: I don't remind me, but but yeah. So I grew

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Speaker 1: up on the island. I'm one of five kids. UM.

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Speaker 1: I've unfortunately we all live in New York, so we

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Speaker 1: What part of Central America? UM my trip um premed

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Speaker 1: On Instagram, I was seeing all your intense surfer photos.

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Speaker 1: The show is always something and it can portray people

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Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelorette happen to have parents who are still married,

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Speaker 1: which obviously defeats the national odds. So do you feel

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, it sound stony Brook' awesome place. Um

427
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Speaker 1: it was there aren't that many. I mean, so as

428
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Speaker 1: the further east you go a long on, the less sparse,

429
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Speaker 1: the more sparse it is the start of population. So

430
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: Stonybrook was the pre eminent hospital UM in Suffolk County,

431
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: and so um, we saw a lot of interesting cases.

432
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: We saw a lot of um intense surgeries. And uh

433
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: again I met some of my best friends in med school.

434
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: So um again, I love my time at school. And

435
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: and to your point, actually, like um, one you've got

436
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: great skincer. Dermatology would be perfect for you. And to um,

437
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: I think I love the ride and and I mean,

438
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: like I know it's it's partably tongue in chief. They're saying,

439
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be dermatologist, but the ride

440
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: is good, you know, like med school is a lot

441
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: of work, but like if you're doing what you really

442
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: want to do and you're around people who are just

443
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: so motivated and so smart, you're like you can't help,

444
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: but all like I feel like you're part of a

445
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: special group. And again it's such a privilege once you

446
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: start doing clinical rotations and seeing like like when other

447
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: med school, I remember, I was I didn finance before,

448
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: and I was like, used to go to these meetings

449
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: and we're talking about like growth and growth. I didn't

450
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: say find I did economic I did consulting. So it

451
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: was like before, yeah, yeah, so would you study in college?

452
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: International affairs in college actually so very secutive, Like yeah,

453
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a little jack of all trades,

454
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: but it's an international affairs in college. Then I did

455
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: healthcare consulting in DC for two years, and then, um,

456
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I didn't I did Can's. I didn't research neual On

457
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: College of Research, Cattery, New York for two years. Um.

458
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: But during that time doing consulting, I'll go to these

459
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: meetings and the meetings would all be would always be

460
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: about like how to increase revenue, how to productivity, you know,

461
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: normal things that compan me you have to worry about

462
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: And then I went to med school and my meetings

463
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: were like how the human body works, and like how

464
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: drugs affected human body, and like um advances and cancer therapies,

465
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is like what I have to do.

466
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: Like just the juxta position of the two was so

467
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: it was so different and and and and obviously so

468
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: much more interesting and importance, you know, in med school

469
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: then uh, in the in my role as a consultant,

470
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: so kind of like reinforced. I'm like, man, I'm in

471
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: the right place. And if I have to spend you know,

472
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Speaker 1: like a night instead of answering emails and working on

473
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Speaker 1: a spreadsheet, if I have to study anatomy and figure

474
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: out the four chambers of the heart and how like

475
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: the Thebesian veins work, like that is so much more interesting.

476
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Then again, like any of these Excel spreadsheets and everybody

477
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: would find interesting. I mean, not everyone wants been that time,

478
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: but like I mean, I know, to figure it, to

479
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: know how your heart works, I mean, you don't even

480
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: think about it, but it's beating eighty times a minute,

481
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: every minute, twenty hours a day, Sundays a week, for

482
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: hopefully ninety years of your life. You think about it, right,

483
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: And it's such a beautiful thing to know how we

484
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: all work, you know, and it's um again, it's it's

485
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Speaker 1: I loved it. And if you if you're really thinking

486
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: about it, I say you go for it seriously thinking

487
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: about sometimes going into like a physician's assistant thing. So

488
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: it's not one um full school you know to that degree,

489
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: but um, you know, like still being able to write

490
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: prescriptions and like understand the human body on a very

491
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: deep level. Yeah, yeah, I say prescriptions. Is that that's

492
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: why I want. I think the weirdest thing I could say.

493
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: I just mean, like like you know, you're just a

494
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Speaker 1: step below doctor. Yeah, I know you to care of people,

495
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: which is the most important thing. You understand the human

496
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: body and need to take care of people with that knowledge,

497
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: and that's that's what this is all about. Well, speaking

498
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: of taking care of people. Uh. You know, we we

499
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: love having people on this podcast, especially in depth, because

500
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: we can dive into some stuff that really matters in

501
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: this world. Not that the Bachelor doesn't, but it doesn't

502
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: make the world go around. Uh. And it one of

503
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: the things that are coming up recently, um is uh

504
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: all the stories of Asian hate existing Uh, really around

505
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: the globe, but you know, focused here in the US

506
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: because that's where we're living and that's where we're functioning. Uh.

507
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: To kind of dive into this conversation if you don't

508
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: mind just sharing your story kind of what you're processing

509
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: through this, what you're learning and hearing, and then I mean,

510
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: actually I would love to dig into this with you

511
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. Sure. I mean, this past year has

512
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: been I think a difficult time for everybody, literally everybody.

513
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: The pandemic has difficult for like the six point seven

514
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: bill people would live on this planet. UM in the US,

515
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: you know obviously going BLM, which you know, really gained

516
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: further last June July UM and continues you know, UM

517
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: to have that energy behind it. And yeah, recently, we're

518
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: not recently, but it's kind of been shown recently or

519
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: people are getting more aware of the hate and violence

520
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: that Asians are to have been experiencing in the past

521
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: here as well. And it kind of took a little

522
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: bit of time for the numbers to come out, but

523
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: recently numbers came out that there's been there was a

524
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: hundred increase in violence UM direct and hate directed to

525
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: part Asian Americans and so you know, personally, it's such

526
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: a weird dynamic because here I am right like me,

527
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Joe Asian American, Korea American UM parents are again came

528
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: from Korea, and I'm on UM. I have this platform

529
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: with you guys, and thank you so much for having

530
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: me and letting me talk about this seriously. But here

531
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: I am talking to you guys about this on this podcast.

532
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: I was on UM Reality Television showing a major American

533
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: UH network. UM. We have our first Asian American Vice President. UM.

534
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: We have Poem Junho who won Best Director, Parris Site

535
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: won Best Film last year Academy Awards, Chloe's al One,

536
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: UM the Golden World for Best Director for nomad Land

537
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: with Stevin Young, who's UH nominated for Best Actors Academy Awards. So,

538
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: on one hand, there's been so much progress and this

539
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: is the maybe the best that's ever been in so

540
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: far from you know, Mickey Rooney's portrayal of Mr Indyoshi

541
00:29:53,960 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: and Brexit tiffanies. At the same time, I know that

542
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: I see these stats increase in and hating violence to

543
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Asian Americans in I see videos of people Asian men, women,

544
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: elderly people who look up who look like my mom

545
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: and my dad getting attacked on a on a subway.

546
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: I see young Asian Americans getting punched in the face unprovoked.

547
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: And it's this stark contrast that's really hard. It's hard

548
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: to get you wrap your head around. You know, it

549
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: is both is both the best of times and the

550
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: worst of the times, and in so many ways. And um,

551
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: it's definitely something that we're all coming to grips with,

552
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: especially after this the shootings in the suburbs around Atlanta

553
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: where again eight people diet, six of whom were Asian

554
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: American women. So it's definitely something that is becoming more

555
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: recognized and more people aware of it. Here we are

556
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: talking about it, and I think that's that's that's that's

557
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: how you move forward. You know, It's not something that

558
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: we see and we experience and we hear about and

559
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: we don't talk about, like when there's a problem in

560
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: a relationship or between anybody between your coworkers, between your

561
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, your your parents, between your your your love,

562
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: your love and your loved one, your your partner, Yeah,

563
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. And and here we are talking about it.

564
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: And again that's that's the first step for sure. One

565
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: of the things. I mean, you just said it, but

566
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: it's the best of times and the worst times, which

567
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: is a word that is now getting used a lot more,

568
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: but it's a word that I think really encapulates this

569
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: whole time. It's disorienting, right, Like, how do you because

570
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: it's the best times and the worst times, how do

571
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: you process as an Asian Asian American the disorientation within

572
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: it all and to see the future, like the what

573
00:31:52,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: could become of the future. So I think again, it's uh,

574
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: there have been so many groups in American history, UM

575
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: that have suffered, and I think with Asians especially, we

576
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: are we are considered a model minority. We are considered

577
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: UM a group that somehow has become has been a

578
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: special stizs they're doing fine, when in reality, well, in

579
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: relative proportion lates New York City, there's a greater percentage

580
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: of Asian Americans or Asians who are impoverished at any

581
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: other race. Asians living in like tenements in Chinatown. It's

582
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: just not talked about because the people in main street

583
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: society you see, are the doctors, are the finance people,

584
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: are the lawyers. UM. I just think that recognition of

585
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: that is the first step, and again, I love that

586
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: we can have this conversation again, even within the hate

587
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: best of times worse times. Now more people haven't heard

588
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: about Vincent Chin, about the murder of an Asian American

589
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: man Ninette two for nothing. For another reason, aside from

590
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: the colors cham, more people are becoming or reacclimating themselves

591
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: with Japanese internment camps, Japanese determent camps during World War

592
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Two where American citizens were forcibly removed from their homes,

593
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: the Predi determent camps in the United States in the

594
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: nineteen forties. We're learning about French Cormazi during that same era,

595
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: and so there's a lot that people are being exposed to,

596
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and again these conversations are what's going to help. Again.

597
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: First is like that knowledge that oh, shoot, I didn't

598
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: even know about that. I didn't know. You know, China

599
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: inclusion active too, I've never heard of that before. Maybe

600
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: you hear about that, and if with mempathetic herd, you know,

601
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: in a curious mind a little bit of both, you

602
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: learn more about it and you understand the struggles of

603
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: people you know who you can't obviously put into one

604
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, single like there's no monolithic Asian culture. You know,

605
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: we are all individuals, and I think knowing the struggle

606
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: that a group has has already been doing and then

607
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: they continues to go through, especially in the past year

608
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: and currently, helps appreciate maybe a little bit like man,

609
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, just straight up, it was a lot of

610
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: my life would have been a lot easier if I

611
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: was white, if I had the exact same stats, if

612
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: I had the exact same grades, if I was exact

613
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: same everything except for the pigment of my skin, I

614
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: might be in a better place right now. And if

615
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: someone had darker or their eyes are a little smaller,

616
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: maybe I might be in a word like that, those

617
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: people might be the worst place for no other reason,

618
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: but that I think just recognizing that is would take

619
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: us so far. I think that's kind of how I'm pressed.

620
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a terrible thing that's happening, obviously to

621
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: people who look like me, but also great that people

622
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: are talking about. What do you think the correlation is

623
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: between the rise evasion hate this year and the current virus?

624
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: Do you believe that there is? I mean, without question,

625
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: the rhetoric of the past administration UM has did a

626
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: lot of damage to um or helped stoke the flames

627
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: that you know, it didn't cause it. You can't say

628
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: it was the reason why people had anytime there's a

629
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: bad there's something negative in anyone's life, especially on a

630
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: big scale. We all it's human nature to want to

631
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: blame something or something. That's just human nature. And knowing

632
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: where this, you know, this virus originated from, I think

633
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, you know, okay, well it's because

634
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: of these people. Even though these people, anyone who's been attacked,

635
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: I would bet any amount of money, they have zero

636
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: connection to this middle size city, you know, on the

637
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: other side of the globe. Like the idea that you know,

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Speaker 1: Noel Quintana who got slashed from the year to year

639
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: on a yr Stay subway, has any relation to Wuhan,

640
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: China is It's insane And I think that's unfortunately, two

641
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: people who want to blame have you know, give blame

642
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: to something, to someone. People are angry with the situation

643
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: and who which a lot of people are, and and

644
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: and and and understandably so, and they wanted to blame.

645
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: It's a natural human reaction to want to blame someone.

646
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: And unfortunately that blame has been put on people who

647
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: look like me, you know, Asian Americans. Um, and I

648
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: think it's the same as Like, it's like, what if

649
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: instead of Asian Americans, all of a sudden we knew

650
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: it came from people's freckles, and everyone's freckles. People were

651
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: punching the face on the street randomly. We're saying like

652
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the nastiest things too, or being literally like with a

653
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: box cutter, sliced, like, because it's freckles, it's the same thing. Well,

654
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: what is it his lives? What if it's people with

655
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: his lives spread the disease? Now everyone is like attacking

656
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: people with his lives, Like, I think that would help

657
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Americans of all colors and all of you know, from

658
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: all backgrounds. I understand how arbitrary it is to attack

659
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: any Asian American you know, and or through any like

660
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: hateful words towards them and hate towards them because of

661
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: a random happenstance of genetics and mutations and animal transmissions

662
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: that happened again, completely randomly, in this random city in China.

663
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: There's a long history of viruses being named after the

664
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: place of origin, you know, Um, West Nile, Spanish flu.

665
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is a pattern that needs

666
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: to stop for this reason that we're seeing. Um, thankfully,

667
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, the coronavirus is just a class of virus.

668
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: But I think more I think it's okay to understand

669
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: origins of things. I think it's it's wrong to know,

670
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, how things came about, um, the reasons they

671
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: came about anti scedens. I think it's important to understand

672
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: these things, but I think it's to the next level

673
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: is to educate all you know, ourselves and knowing that

674
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: like because it comes from China. You know a city

675
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: in China, you know, one city, that capital you know,

676
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: like that capitulates one seven billion people who live there,

677
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, and there's no relation. You know, that city

678
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: is relationship probably to the rest of the country and

679
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: that and nobody in the United States has any relations

680
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: to that little city in that big country. You know.

681
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Like it's so I think it just takes another level

682
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: where it's like just because named after something, I mean,

683
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: it's the fault of the people there. You know that

684
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: it exists. You know, that is a fact of globalization,

685
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: you know of yeah, just the reality of the times're

686
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: living in. I mean, there's you go on and on

687
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: about why pandemics occur. And I think we're almost lucky

688
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: that it hadn't happened earlier. You know, you could have

689
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: happened in China, but it could easily come out of

690
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, Europe, you know, And I think, again it

691
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But it's like the first cases of the

692
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: coronavirus spread from Asia, from Asia to Europe and then

693
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: to the United States. So but again it doesn't matter,

694
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, like we're all sharing this burden together, and

695
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: pandemics happen. It sounds crazy, but they happen. And hopefully

696
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: it won't happen again in our lifetimes, but it's going

697
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: to happen again. It's not the fault of the place

698
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: of origin that it happens, like, it's just a fault

699
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: of biology and and in human globalization and interaction with

700
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: different spieces of antal sayment. That's just a different conversation

701
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: the thing that this is bringing up. And and I

702
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: really would love to hear your perspective on it. And so,

703
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, has been an interesting year, right because as

704
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: you said, there's a burden that we're all universally caring, caring,

705
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: but in the midst of that we've had, uh, some

706
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: some movements come up, some knowledge that have been brought

707
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: to the attention of especially the American people, to say

708
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: there's some injustice going on in the world. These things

709
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: have been happening for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Now

710
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: now it's now it's in front of us, and it's

711
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: almost like it feels like almost time. Okay, what's the

712
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: decision gonna make? Are you going to choose to start

713
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: trying to heal and to help or to hurt more

714
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: and to change your redoric to be even more hurtful. Okay?

715
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: So what I'm getting at is, how do we, now,

716
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: in the midst of knowing there's so much injustice that

717
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: is around us every day, how do we get in

718
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: front of it as people so that it doesn't happen

719
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: to have have to have a increase in violence, and

720
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to have the death of people of

721
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: color at the hands of others for us to finally

722
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: take notice. So in your life right now, because you're

723
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: a smart dude, oh, I know, I can learn a

724
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: lot from How are you now paying attention and staying

725
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: curious to what other injustices are happening around us? So

726
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: that it doesn't take this again. Um, that's a really

727
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: really good question. Um. I think all of us, myself included,

728
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 1: I think we all have preconceived notions. And that's again,

729
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: that's the human condition to have that, that's part of

730
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: how we just you know, this is how we operate.

731
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: But just to know, I think one as far as

732
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: hate goes person all, I think it's empathy and just

733
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: knowing kind of what I've been saying kind of already,

734
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: like it's on a broken record, but knowing that person

735
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: in front of you, whoever, whatever color, whatever you know, race,

736
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: whatever relations, wherever they're from, whatever gender like you, you

737
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: may not know who they are, but what you do

738
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: know what you probably do know. You don't know where

739
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: they're from. You know, you don't know how they grew up,

740
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: You don't know the struggles they went through. But what

741
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: you probably do know they want the same things that

742
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: you want out of the life. They want to be loved,

743
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: they want to be heard, they want to feel appreciated.

744
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: They have family that they care about or friends that

745
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: they really care about and wanted to be safe. Um.

746
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: They want their needs Metum, And so knowing that, again,

747
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: like how much we all are the same. I think

748
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: it's that is the first step. Like you know that

749
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: Nigerian immigrants. I don't know him or her at all,

750
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: but I do know you know his namber as a child.

751
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I know how the struggle. We're not here an accident.

752
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't think like, oh man, what are you doing?

753
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I think man, like it took you that much. You

754
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: know another language fluently, but it took you that much

755
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: just to learn the language. How many Americans know two language?

756
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, like it's a falter of America. But like

757
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: even actually I'm like good for you man, or or

758
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: a girl like you know, like thank you for putting

759
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: in that effort to like meet me at my level.

760
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: And I think, just again, keeping having that empathy, which

761
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: is kind of a function that makes us human. Having

762
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: an empathy is like such is like that first step

763
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: and just pausing and all, like whatever you can seem

764
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: to hate or negative you have towards somebody or some group,

765
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: just think for a second, like what don't you know

766
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: about that? Like what do you really know about that

767
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: person on the street? What do you really know about

768
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: that person? Or that person the next year, or that

769
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: person on the subway or that person like you know anywhere,

770
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: and like how much again as a human being, do

771
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: you think you can relate with? You know, like I

772
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: just think there's so much more we all have in common.

773
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: I think once you realize that, like we'd all be good,

774
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: you know, Asian, black, like whatever you are, wherever you are.

775
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that binds us alid, you know,

776
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: like we're all we're all doing the best we can,

777
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, to start this thing, and and that's

778
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: where it starts. You know, no one, everyone's just trying

779
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: the best. You're the best joke part. You're awesome, I

780
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: will see. On a societal level though, I do think,

781
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: like again, um, do you think representation in the government

782
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: and government and in social media? Like there's also populations

783
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: to get a little more in like Middle America. Who's

784
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: never met an Asian person the matter men never met

785
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: a Jewish person, Maybe they don't never met a black

786
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: person before, and so that's when like social media media matters.

787
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: That's why I like Black Panther was such a breakthrough.

788
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: Right to have a predominantly African American ca asked as

789
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: like heroes and someone on your poet, like on your

790
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: wall you have black you know, Black Panther, and why

791
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm still happy about the strides that Asian American cinematographers

792
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: made because there's this push pull between like norms and

793
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: ideas of society and social media and not social media,

794
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: but and media, mass media and sometimes a lot of

795
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: times and I think unfortunately Bachelor is just again reflective

796
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: of society, but there's sometimes where like again hopefully with this,

797
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I think right now, this this this Asian and Asian

798
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: American renaissance in movies, it's like there's this pull that's

799
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: like yo, like there's some really good actors and great filmmakers,

800
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: and it makes me think like they're not just the

801
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: karate the guy who knows karate or the computer for

802
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: the or the dorkey dude, you know, like there are

803
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: levels to this, as there are any everybody. Anyway, Well,

804
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you were one of the few Asian men on The Bachelorette.

805
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think there's been so few? Do you

806
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: think it's for lack of applicants or just casting choices

807
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: that that is such a fair question. I really think

808
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: it's probably more the former. I mean to be on

809
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: this show. I talked talked about this when I was there.

810
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: There there's so many like and you guys both know

811
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: there there's so many like things you have to go

812
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: the filters you have to go through. You need a

813
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: certainly like you need to have a certain amount of

814
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: time off. First of all, to be able to go

815
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: on the show. You need to be a certain like

816
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: age range. You need to um honestly probably have a

817
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: certain look like you know, and physique, Um, you have

818
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: to go through some other like health related tests they

819
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: have to go through. So to still all of that

820
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: down and also to know, um, in the audience it

821
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: attracts and who watched the democratic, the people who watched

822
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: show where fans this show? I really think, like I

823
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: wonder how many Asian people apply to be on the show.

824
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: I don't. I would imagine very very few, And so

825
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: in fairness to the franchise, I kind of think it's

826
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: it's it's a bit of both, you know, Like, I

827
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: don't know how many people Asians could fit all these filters.

828
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: It would be tough. It's a fair question. Excuse me

829
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: for not being able to ward this as eloquently as

830
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I would like. I feel like the Asian community has

831
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: certain values that perhaps don't aligne with the franchise. Do

832
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: you think that do you think that that could be

833
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: why there are fewer of that race that apply. I

834
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: think that's that's a fair point, actually, and I thank

835
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: you for being even like comfortable up to ask that,

836
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, seriously, because that's was worded perfectly. I think

837
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: that's fair. I think, you know, as a culture, we're

838
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: just told to just say, like, just work hard, like,

839
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: don't try to stand out too much, be humble. Um,

840
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: being on television in front of like six million people,

841
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: like the opposite of like most of the values, especially

842
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: of people who are like children of immigrants, you know,

843
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: especially immigrants like yo, like you don't make a scene,

844
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: just like like let your like the body of your

845
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: work speak for itself, you know, get the grades, you know,

846
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: excel in the arts and athletics. I mean it, just

847
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: like speak excellent. And let that, you know, show anyone

848
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: who wants to see it, or any I think you

849
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: apply to let that be evidence of your of who

850
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: you are, not like go on a TV show and

851
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: like show the world, you know, like how brave or

852
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: how stupid you are, how how whatever whatever you want

853
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: to say, we are on that show. So I think

854
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: that's fair yeah, I think, um, that's probably part of

855
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: it too. Like, no, I don't think anybody was, like,

856
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who. A many people grow up and say,

857
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: oh man, I can't wait, I really want to be

858
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: on the realized of a show. I think very people

859
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: say that, but I think I literally nobody friends growing

860
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: up said well, Joe, we appreciate you, um having this

861
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: conversation with us. We're gonna take a break here. When

862
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: we come back, we have a few more minutes left

863
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: with you. We're gonna talk about this rumor that's swirling

864
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: around that you are the first conformed, confirmed contestant in

865
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Paris. We're gonna find out that's true or not. Uh.

866
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: And then we also have a little game that actually

867
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: always loves to play with our guests. Uh. We'll be

868
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: back with Dr Joe Park on the Almost Famous podcast.

869
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: All right, now for the question our audience has been

870
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: waiting for, Joe, are you going to paradise? Like Rob

871
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: Mills tweeted, I remember the last time you spoke with

872
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: us back in October November, you said that you hoped

873
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship by the time filming rolled around.

874
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: So what's up? You know? Sometimes your hopes go un fulfilled,

875
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: and that is the case with this whole relationship thing

876
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: as well. Um, as far as Paradise, you know, yeah,

877
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I saw the tweet, and I saw a couple of

878
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: articles on in a few and like prominent like magazines

879
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: doing like a deep dive. Um, So to that, I

880
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: would say, I am not confirmed to go to Paradise.

881
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's my vibe. They didn't get permission

882
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: to put that out there. No, well, we're gonna wait

883
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: and see about this because, uh, dr Joe, you might

884
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: not know it yet, but I think you've already been

885
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: signed up for Paradise, so you better start figuring out

886
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: how to get that time off. Because the headlines I've

887
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: been eating kind of my eSTREAM like four times of

888
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: the week. I hope it's not I'm not ready. Just fine.

889
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Uh well, if you if you were going the Paradise, Um,

890
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: if your parents like watching the show, like, is this

891
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: something that they enjoy doing for me on the Bachelor

892
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: at Like? Are they are they pushing it and pumped

893
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: for it? My parents are always kind of like nervous.

894
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ever that excited, but they

895
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: I knew they're into it. Um. I think my parents

896
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: were similar in the sense they weren't nervous for me,

897
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: like this is something you really want to do, Like

898
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: what do you want to gain from this? Like what

899
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: are you really trying to get out of this? And

900
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: I tell them, you know, doing enough for the followers, baby,

901
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: like I tell, I tell, I just tell them, like yeah,

902
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: it's just a random thing to do, and like, you know,

903
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: you only live ones and it's just like again, like

904
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: I tell them, like look at your story, look at

905
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, James and Miller brothers, or look at my

906
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: younger brothers story, like lightning can strike, you know, it

907
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: struck a couple of times already in our family. Like

908
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: just to say it doesn't you can happen again. And

909
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: so I say, like, you know, I'll try not to

910
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: embarrass you. I can't make it any promises, Like I

911
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: wonder what happened had I lost that we played from

912
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: dodgeball in my season, But I wonder what would happened

913
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: if I lost, you know, like I thank god I

914
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: never had to go. You know, you have to face that.

915
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: But I think they just really want to make sure

916
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: it's something that I want. And again, if I decided

917
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: they support it, and so that's why they're good parents.

918
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, yeah, we'll wait and see. We'll be

919
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: fancy here. We'll hopefully have you back on. You've been

920
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: a friend of the podcast. Um, you've been on a

921
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: few times now. We always appreciate it. So if you

922
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: do conform firm or if you don't, uh, you still

923
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: manage to us uh and we we do always hope

924
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: to be watching you. Now here's a part we're gonna

925
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: get into bachelor headlines in just a second with you.

926
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna speed through those. But before we do, to

927
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: close this segment of Dr Joe Park's In Depth episode,

928
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Ashley always has a rapid fire around with our guest

929
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: and she is definitely set one up for you. So Ashley,

930
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: take it away. Okay, what is your favorite case to

931
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: do to do anesthesia on? What's a good question? I like, um,

932
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: near replacements is weird, but I'll tell you why. One.

933
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: I love taking up elderly patients, like kids and elderly

934
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: a like favorite UM, but our elderly patients are like

935
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: the most the realist people ever and I love just

936
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: the real honest like, hey, how are you doing they're

937
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: like that's a great you know, like I'm here in

938
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: the hospital, like what do you mean? I just love

939
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: their their realness. And with that you actually actually do

940
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of nerve blocks after the procedure. Is kind

941
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: of fun to like do something that's like not just

942
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: like treating them and keeping them comfortable, but also something

943
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: therapeutic um and helps them with their pain after the

944
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: procedure for the next day. And it's a lot of

945
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: it's like an anatomy and it's like technical skill and

946
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: again all that together is um that's what's part of

947
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: like a like a joint like a near replacement. So

948
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: and then what the experiences are pretty fun, they're pretty

949
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: um it's like a fun group. So I appreciate like

950
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: their personalities and stuff too. So they were usually the

951
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: jocks in school. Yeah, they're they're definitely no medical like

952
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: stereotype is more true at the time. But like when

953
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: you see that tall jack dude, you're like, that guy's

954
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: not the ex surgeon, Like you just know it, you know,

955
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: you just it's it's you can see it from mile away.

956
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, usually the surgeons picked the music in the

957
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: O R. So what are you usually excited to hear

958
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: you know that's true, you know in my um, in

959
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: in our ours, it's it's more diplomatic. And uh, recently,

960
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, like yesterday we listened to um a

961
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: little Lauren Hill unplugged you know, to bring back to

962
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. We all loved. I'm sure like we're all

963
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: kind of in the same ageans mis education to Lauren

964
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Hill and um that was seminal record album and she

965
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: had a great unplugged album and and uh, I got

966
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: off My Piece of Mind and Matt James had on

967
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: his like recent like post. I was like, man, I

968
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: haven't got song in years, and so that's exactly a question.

969
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: But that was the one song I played recently. And

970
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: and the Orthopedic Surgeon, I was like, bave and with

971
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: it two and He's like, she messes up here and

972
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh dude, like again another reason why,

973
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: um again I love the door procedures. And yeah, that

974
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: was kind of like the most memorable song and some

975
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: choist that recent memory awesome. What is your typical night

976
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: look like when you get home from work? You know,

977
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: normally I get home from work, um a palace of

978
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: energy drinks and that I do a podcast. That's pretty

979
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: much this is no Normally I'll either I'll play um

980
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: a little guitar. Um, I'll uh like Spanish touring online. Um,

981
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait a couple of adjustable wait in my

982
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: my closet over here. So I was like, do you

983
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: like to workout? And now the weather is getting great?

984
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: I have a couple of goals for like this next year,

985
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: and uh, marathon is one of them. So I've been

986
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: running a lot and the weather is getting better. So

987
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: running a lot. Um, yeah, New York and in the

988
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: spring is beautiful. So the more you speak, the more

989
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: I wonder, how the hell are you're single? I think

990
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: it's that you haven't found somebody worthy of you yet. Um,

991
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: what was your last date? When? And what did you do?

992
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: M you know it was pretty show. This is like

993
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: you haven't you become like the Bachelor? Um? This is

994
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: not I'm not even this is not like um podcast

995
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: like reality like reality. This is like reality reality, a

996
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: sad reality. Yeah it's true. It's it's a weird thing.

997
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: And then you guys can relate like and I've been

998
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: last time around, You're like, yo, like look at those

999
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: d ms. But I did not heat your advice. UM,

1000
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: I've just been kind of like again trying to hopeing.

1001
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping it happens kind of like naturally,

1002
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of in the real world kind of. Um, but

1003
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: during the pandemic is tough. So the last thing I

1004
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: went on was months before the show. I went on

1005
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: a hike. This is with the girl and I before

1006
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: the show contact me. It was like early, like the

1007
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: pre spring, like right like Perry Spring, right right as

1008
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: I was trying to spring weather was getting good. Run

1009
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: on a hike, went on the hike and over Yeah,

1010
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: probably about a year ago. Yeah, I can look at

1011
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: my phone with the pictures. It's a beautiful day. And

1012
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: I've seen this person a few times. And on the

1013
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: last time I saw her, as you were driving back

1014
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: to the hike, she was like, I'll probably tell you something.

1015
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like you know, it was a

1016
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: great time. I tried out something and she said, um,

1017
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm married, and I was like, I was like, was like,

1018
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: I was like and she was not from the US.

1019
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what did you say you were married?

1020
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: And she's like no, no, no, I said I'm married.

1021
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: And you could kind of probably imagine how the conversation

1022
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: was from there. Wow, so only it's only up from there,

1023
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm s a very

1024
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: low place. I think from there I could just everything

1025
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: is yeah. Okay, Well, I think we're going to move

1026
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: on now to our some of our headlines, and we

1027
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: would love if you could join us for some of them.

1028
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: Because your friend Bennett, who you've hang out with a

1029
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: good amount of time and recently did from was the

1030
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: top of the rock that you guys did the flying

1031
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: scene from the Edge the Edge now okay, sorry, they rebranded. Okay,

1032
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: so you did different side, different different places, different Okay.

1033
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: It's really cool. You guys pretended to be Jack and

1034
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: rose Um. But it looks like Bennett wants Kelly to

1035
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: be his rose. He kind of he kind of put

1036
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: his he threw a shot out there Um on Instagram

1037
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: this week saying that she caught his eye. So you

1038
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: think that there could be some romance there if they

1039
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: both end up in Paradise. That's a great quick First

1040
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: of all, I want to give a shout out to

1041
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: Bennett because before that we went to an API rally

1042
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: and I told him, hey, I'll meet you there. I'm

1043
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: going to this rally. Ben, It's like, if you're going,

1044
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm going, you don't want to support. So he came

1045
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: to um um an anti Asian hate rally with me beforehand.

1046
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: So um, obviously I love the man for that, but

1047
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: we um to that point. You know, Kelly flannag and

1048
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: catched a lot of people's eyes in fairness, So see

1049
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: one of the one of the like one of the

1050
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: parents of eyes that she has caught. Yeah, I think so,

1051
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: I absolutely think so. Yeah, she's um, super intelligent, she's

1052
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: super attractive, Like I think a lot of people are

1053
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: shooting their shot. He's just very obviously that it. And

1054
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: he's a confident guy, very good looking, very successful. Why

1055
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to take that shot? Um, I definitely think

1056
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: there there might be something there on Paradise if if

1057
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: they're both but they both find themselves there, I would

1058
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the chance of sparks is very high. Could there be

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: some hostility between you and him? For Kelly, if you

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01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: guys both ended there, ended up there because it sounded

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01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: like you just protr um. I don't know Kelly and

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: uh at all. I didn't see that season with Peter

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: Um actual didn't meet p Peter you're nice play on

1064
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: a flag football team. Now, so I know Peter, I

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: don't know Kelly. Um, but but if I but but

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01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: but if we meet and if I want to go

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01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: on Paradise too, if we meet three, if if we

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: get along, then um yeah, there might be you know,

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01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: there might be a little attention there. But we'll see.

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01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of a lot of a lot

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: of it is there. But you know, teach gentlemen. I

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01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: feel like we could work it out amicably or we'll

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01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: just have to do like a gun dual one or

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01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: the other. We'll see. Next headline, Joe, that we love

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: for you to share insight on is Kathy Low recalls

1076
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: facing damaging racial slurs and powerful plea to end anti

1077
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: Asian violence is according to E News, Joe, when you

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: hear this and read this, did you experience anything like this? Uh?

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01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: And uh? And the story goes on to say this

1080
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 1: just so he hasn't back on a very young age

1081
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: the bachelors, Katherine Low rights in an s A d E.

1082
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: My sisters and I were called mongrels because my Filipino

1083
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: mother had children with a Caucasian man. Um, Joe, when

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01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: you hear this headline you read that quote, what do

1085
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: you think, Um, you know, obviously it's it's hurtful. Um.

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01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: And I think all of us, you know, who grew

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 1: up honestly, I think everyone who didn't grow up white

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: in a prominantly white area, and I assume she did

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01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: um or non age area, which is pretty much every

1090
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: area out to like parts of California. We all, I

1091
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: think we all experienced some level of of of ye

1092
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: racism when we grow up, and it's hurtful and unfortunately,

1093
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: like when we're young, you know, we don't we don't

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: live our life back where it's like there's some things

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01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: that when we're young and I just attribute a certain age.

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: But when our hormones are like still like kind of

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01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: like forming and our brain is still like so undercooked,

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01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: it's still so doughey that it's when it solidifies. Even

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: though we can rationalize these are just you know, children,

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: they didn't know any better. Um, and I bet now

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01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: they do still like once that hormonal experience has solidified,

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: that's still you still feel it. And and I feel

1103
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: her pain. And again I'm just happy that maybe it

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01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: took this moment for to talk about that, and maybe

1105
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: that's like some Catharsist for her to say, hey, like,

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: here's my story and now people are willing to listen

1107
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: to it in this moment especially and here we were

1108
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: talking about it again, and so I think it's great

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: and I and I and I aplaud her for courage

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01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: and a brave ready to be able to talk about

1111
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: this paincil memory nobody. Obviously it's not easy to talk about,

1112
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: specially in a public form. And so um, I think

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, of every background, who's

1114
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: not who's any other of any form or relate and

1115
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll they'll know, hey, like and I was okay,

1116
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: and it's still hurt that her doesn't go away, but

1117
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: like you'll be all right to you know, just like

1118
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: get through it and hope and again times are changing, hopefully,

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: and so um, I just want to, yeah, just thank

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Speaker 1: her for it for doing that. The final headline that

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01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: we really want to read through with you and here

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: if you could relate or if you felt this as

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01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: well as Sydney uh, let's talk go from Colton season

1124
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: said she felt the pressure of the entire Asian race

1125
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: filming The Bachelor. That's the headline. Ac Corny to US Weekly,

1126
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: I I didn't really think about it because I didn't

1127
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: watch the show. I had no idea of the postive

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: of Asians in on the franchise. M's all. I was

1129
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: there and like the producers, some of the producers was

1130
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: really close with, like to say, hey, just by the way, man, like,

1131
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: we haven't had people like you on for like, your

1132
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: story is not the normal story. And I think while

1133
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: I was there, I kind of started thinking about it

1134
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: more and I said this on Nick Bills podcast, and um,

1135
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. There's just one hand with her names. Tino.

1136
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: I love Tino, Tino, I love you man. He was

1137
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: such a great guy and we would talk late at

1138
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: night and at times when I was like feeling down

1139
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 1: or like I was like, man, like what am I even?

1140
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: What am I doing here? You guys know that long nights.

1141
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: I'll just reminded of this Jay Z quote for Mezzo,

1142
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: which is I do this from my culture and a

1143
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: little bit I was like, Yo, you're representing yourself first,

1144
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: and formance was lost your family and maybe to like

1145
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: so many people, especially honestly in Middle America in the South,

1146
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: maybe don't I haven't seen Asian man before, like in

1147
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: life and not even like on TV and the movies,

1148
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: like maybe you might be one of the first people

1149
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: they're getting to know a little bit, and so yeah,

1150
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: you felt a little bit, and so I definitely empathize

1151
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: with her that way. Well, before we let you go,

1152
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: you got to create a headline for us. Now, if

1153
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: you were to go to Paradise, who do you want

1154
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: to see there? That's so easy, Brendan, Uh, you took

1155
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: the easier. Now took so sweet though, it's very sweet.

1156
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: It was almost so sweet that I'm going to say,

1157
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: just as good as if you gave us a girl's name. Well, Joe,

1158
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: dr Joe Park, thank you so much for joining us.

1159
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue with bachelor headlines. We're gonna let you

1160
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: go so you can get some rest, you can learn

1161
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,959
Speaker 1: some Spanish, player tar drinks, more energy drinks, stay awake

1162
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: for as long as possible. Um, I really appreciate you, ma'am.

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01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: Been great, get to know you better, and we hope

1164
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: to see back here soon. So wonderful having you. Actually, Ben,

1165
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: it's always great being on your podcast, and thank you

1166
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: so much for providing and seriously, it's great to talk

1167
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: to you and thank you for your thoughtful questions and

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: UH and you and everything else. Man, Hey, we'll talk

1169
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: to you soon, Joe. We're gonna take a break here

1170
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: with the almost famous podcast. When we come back, we're

1171
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: gonna continue with Bachelor headlines. It's always a pleasure having

1172
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: a guest on doing an in depth episode. These are

1173
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: some of our favorite uh in the off season. Dr

1174
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Joe Park was incredible. We're gonna finish the podcast here

1175
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: with bachelor headlines that are happening right now as we speak.

1176
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with this. Matt James returned to Instagram.

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: He wipes the Bachelor from his profile. This according to

1178
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: US Weekly. Yeah, super interesting. So we all know, or

1179
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast, you know that last

1180
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: week he deleted all the photos from his Instagram anything

1181
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: that was promotional of the Bachelor. Now the only photo

1182
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: that refers to the Bachelor is his response to UM

1183
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: the Chris Harrison interview. UM. He also has listed he's

1184
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: not He's not the Bachelor in his BIA or anything

1185
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: like that. He has listed real estate is his profession,

1186
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: c b r E as his place of work. He

1187
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: says that he's a believer and that life revolves around

1188
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: his work at the ABC Food Tours and uh yeah,

1189
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: so it seems like he's trying to put the Bachelor

1190
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: in his past, literally and figuratively. He is back on Instagram,

1191
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: though Matt James can be seen back on Instagram. Well, uh,

1192
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: next inline is this inside Claire Crawley's very romantic forty

1193
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: birthday get away with Dale moss Is. According to the

1194
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: News yep, last week we told you that the two

1195
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: of them were spotted giving each other mask kisses in

1196
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: New York City. What looks that he followed her back

1197
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: to California for the last week of March for her

1198
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: forty birthday. They went to Napa. They were by the

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: pool together, they had champagne. It was, according to a source,

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01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: everything that Claire wanted for her birthday. Happy, Happy, to

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: clear Crawley and it sounds like her and Dale are

1202
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: still hanging out. We'll call it that for now. Uh.

1203
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: In a Resa interview Sitting to the Taco, who we

1204
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: just spoke about with Dr Joe Park a second ago

1205
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: with US Weekly, she revealed a lot. It's a great interview,

1206
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: Eric and anybody going out and checking out, it's with

1207
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: um they're here for the Right Reasons podcast. But she

1208
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: also says this sitting of the Taco recall recalls Bachelor

1209
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: Colton Underwood playing favorites the most contestants quit. She says

1210
01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: this according to US Weekly, Yeah, basically, it's basically the

1211
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: headline is is the article. She She said that it

1212
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: was obvious that he was playing favorites, and and then

1213
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't like didn't make them feel good about themselves

1214
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: seeing him look at other girls a certain way and

1215
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: then not give them attention. And that was kind of

1216
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: what put the nail on the coffin for her when

1217
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,959
Speaker 1: she decided to leave on her own. Blake Hortzman reveals

1218
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: why he doesn't regret releasing Kaylin miller Keys text after

1219
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise drama. This according to US Weekly as well. So,

1220
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 1: if you guys remember during that season of Bachelor in Paradise,

1221
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: which was almost a year and a half ago, um,

1222
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: there was a lot of he said, she said, and

1223
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: Blake put out some texts that happened between him and

1224
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: and Kylin during that infamous Stagecoach weekend, and he said

1225
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: that he's never going to feel guilty for defending himself

1226
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: and for showing up to fight for himself. He said

1227
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: that he was told that he shouldn't put anything out

1228
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: about it. They really as a show. They didn't want

1229
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: him releasing anything that happened off the show. So but

1230
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: but he said, I can't. I have to defend myself. Well.

1231
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: In a recently released text thread that is getting a

1232
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: lot of um conversation going right now, Evan Bass jokes

1233
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: about Carly Waddale split and dating again during brief Instagram return.

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: This according to US Weekly, also, this is all just

1235
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: very silly. Um. Evan was in Mexico and he was

1236
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: there getting dental surgery, and the night before he was

1237
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: just texting with Carly and they were kind of it

1238
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: seemed a little bit flirty, like a little tongue in cheek,

1239
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: um about I believe if he died in surgery, who

1240
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: she would marry next. So there's like some silliness there.

1241
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: And um she was there was like a like a

1242
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: little bit of playfulness because of his Italian heritage and

1243
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: like that she should never marry another Italian again. The

1244
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: bottom line to me from this story is that Carly

1245
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: and Evan are still talking and and they are in

1246
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: a playful sense, So who knows what could come of this?

1247
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: That being said, When asked on Instagram whether or not

1248
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: he and Carly could get back together again, he quoted

1249
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: Humpty Dumpty, which was all the King's horses and all

1250
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: the King's men dot dot dot. We know the rest

1251
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: of the rhyme couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again,

1252
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: So I think that's alluding to them not being able

1253
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Who knows. Stay tuned, it's wild. Well.

1254
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of former Bachelor couples, Bachelrettes Ashley he Bear reunites

1255
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: with a strange husband Jp Rosenbaum says they're best friends

1256
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: forever after split. This according to US Weekly, Yeah, it's

1257
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: kind of surprising to me. It just seemed like they

1258
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: didn't end on the most positive note. But over the weekend,

1259
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: she posted an Into story of the two of them together,

1260
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 1: and she said too cool for school. Too cool for school,

1261
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: as she teased in a playful way again her strench

1262
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: husband um and she captioned the Instagram story best friends forever,

1263
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: which is great. I'm glad that they're on such good terms. Well,

1264
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: The Bachelor's Jason Tartek reveals plans to start a family

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Speaker 1: with Caitlin Bristow. This, according to Hollywood Life. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a juicy headline, but there's not much to go with it,

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Speaker 1: but we can confirm that they're both wanting a family. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he said that in an ideal world, they would

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Speaker 1: love to have twins. I think they just want to

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Speaker 1: bang it out, but they said that, he said, I

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Speaker 1: think we're in the perfect situation for kids. UM, twins

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Speaker 1: would be nice, but just a happy kid would be

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Speaker 1: what we what we desire. Well in the final headline

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Speaker 1: and also some more baby news inside Pregnant Lauren Burnham

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Speaker 1: and Ari Liondyke Juniors Hawaii baby moon ahead of twins birth.

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Speaker 1: I know the two of them went on a baby

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Speaker 1: moon this week. All the photos are on Instagram. Cute

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Speaker 1: content for sure, so UM follow follow that they I

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Speaker 1: feel like Hawaii is a very special place for them.

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Speaker 1: I think the baby moon thereby, I'm not sure, but

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Speaker 1: that's when they got married. It's a special time. Well,

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Speaker 1: this has been another Almost Famous podcast and in depth

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Speaker 1: episode with Dr Joe Park. I want to think Dr

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Speaker 1: Joe Park for coming on and give us so much time. Ashley,

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Speaker 1: as always, you're the best. We're gonna be back next

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Speaker 1: week with another episode of Almost Famous. Podcast until then,

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