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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, d J, Bucky here on Move the

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Speaker 1: This is from at b Underscore s E I d

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Speaker 1: you have to account for a quarterback that can run,

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Speaker 1: you're blocking one less guy because the backside end has

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Speaker 1: to be held with the quarterback. And so you've got

429
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Speaker 1: a good offensive line, You've got a physical runner, You've

430
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Speaker 1: got one less guy to block. That's the kind of

431
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Speaker 1: math that that works in the favor of mark Ingram. Yeah,

432
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: it does work in the favor of mark Ingram. Uh. Look,

433
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Speaker 1: they the way they're running the ball, the way they're

434
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Speaker 1: going to run the ball, He's going to benefit because

435
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Speaker 1: all odds gonna be on number eight. And because number

436
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Speaker 1: eight is a guy that can stick the ball in

437
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Speaker 1: the belly, he can take it around the edge. You

438
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Speaker 1: have to pay attention. And now that they've begun to

439
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Speaker 1: mix in some of the r p O s in

440
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Speaker 1: the passing game makes it even more imperative for defense

441
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Speaker 1: to keep their eyes on them. I just think mark

442
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Speaker 1: Ingram is going to benefit from that. We saw what

443
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Speaker 1: it did if for Guess Edwards last year. Uh, this

444
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens run game is gonna be tough because not

445
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Speaker 1: only is the scheme tough, but they upgraded a personnel

446
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Speaker 1: around Damar Jackson to make them even tougher. Yeah, it's

447
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Speaker 1: gonna be Uh, it'll be fun to watch this. Uh,

448
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: this Ravens team as they continue to grow and evolve

449
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Speaker 1: with Greg Roman and this scheme, Lamar Jackson plays anywhere

450
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Speaker 1: close to as well as he did last week against

451
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. This is gonna be a big year for

452
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. All right, Buck, Let's let's switch gears here.

453
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Speaker 1: Let's get to some college football, although we're gonna focus

454
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Speaker 1: on evaluation. UM. I had a chance to to visit

455
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Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys that hold the title

456
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Speaker 1: of director of player personnel with their college programs, which

457
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Speaker 1: basically they run recruiting and the evaluation for these teams,

458
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a position that hasn't been around

459
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Speaker 1: all that long. One of the guys who was one

460
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Speaker 1: of the first to hold the title and is really

461
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Speaker 1: viewed in the in the football community, the college football community,

462
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: is is one of the elites in terms of running

463
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Speaker 1: a personnel department at the college level, is a guy

464
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Speaker 1: by the name of Mark Pantoni, somebody that we've both

465
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Speaker 1: got a chance to know a little bit and tremendously respect. Um.

466
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Speaker 1: We got a chance to visit with him and discuss

467
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Speaker 1: some of the great players he's had a chance to

468
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Speaker 1: evaluate and everything that goes into the position of of

469
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Speaker 1: being uh. He's actually the assistant athletic director as well

470
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Speaker 1: as the director of player personnel with the Buck guys,

471
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Speaker 1: here's our conversation. Well, Mark, the first question from me, Man,

472
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Speaker 1: I know I've heard you tell this story before, but

473
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Speaker 1: as we've seen these college programs, the elite college programs

474
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Speaker 1: kind of almost mimic the National Football League in terms

475
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Speaker 1: of having a scouting staff a personnel department. Uh where

476
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Speaker 1: did that all start? And and tell us about your

477
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Speaker 1: evolution as this thing is all grown. So so I

478
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Speaker 1: started back in two thousands six at Florida with Coach

479
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Speaker 1: Meyer just as a volunteer in the recruiting office. And

480
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Speaker 1: back then there was there was one person who ran recruiting,

481
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I spent a lot of time

482
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Speaker 1: just writing envelopes and logging videos and just the minuscule stuff.

483
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Speaker 1: And you know, as as years went on, I gained

484
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Speaker 1: more experience watching film and evaluating. And when I first

485
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Speaker 1: got to a Hole state in two thousand and twelve,

486
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Speaker 1: there was still like two full time numbers in in

487
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Speaker 1: the personnel department. And so the evolution in just the

488
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Speaker 1: last few years has gone to now I oversee eleven people.

489
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Speaker 1: And so most schools back in two thousand twelve didn't

490
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Speaker 1: even have personnel directors. And now I think every power

491
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Speaker 1: five school has one and every staff just keeps growing

492
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Speaker 1: the year after year. You know, Mark, So, nowdadid so

493
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Speaker 1: mirrors what UH is taking place in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys come up with a grading system? Do

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Speaker 1: you have kind of like position or trace that you

496
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Speaker 1: look for for each position as you're you're stacking it up?

497
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Speaker 1: Do you have prototypes and the like? I'm just so

498
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Speaker 1: curious to see how much it resembles what we're doing

499
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Speaker 1: in National Football League? Yeah, very similar. Each position has

500
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Speaker 1: critical factors we're looking for, UM. You know, we try

501
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Speaker 1: to get with each coach and see what they like

502
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Speaker 1: and don't like. And we also have just general athletic

503
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Speaker 1: factors were looking for for all guys UM. Obviously dealing

504
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Speaker 1: with high school kids. Were also looking at transcripts and

505
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: character as well. Same thing as the NFL. UM. But

506
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Speaker 1: we do have grading systems, UM. We The one thing

507
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: we don't have is the analytics involved as NFL. So

508
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Speaker 1: it's harder to get you know, confirmed times, harder to

509
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Speaker 1: get all these measurables that that you have easy access

510
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Speaker 1: to in the NFL through the combine and pro days

511
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Speaker 1: and everything. How how important is it that you guys

512
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Speaker 1: get these guys on campus, and not just to visit,

513
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Speaker 1: but maybe in a camp environment where you can see

514
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Speaker 1: them on the field and watch them compete. I know,

515
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Speaker 1: when you're scouting guys, especially quarterbacks, we always felt like

516
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Speaker 1: we had to go see them live. You couldn't just

517
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Speaker 1: rely of what you saw on the tape. But how

518
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Speaker 1: important is that in your process over the years, it's critical, um,

519
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: you want to be able to see them move and

520
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: throw and do all the movement skills needed for exposition.

521
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Speaker 1: The hard part is in the evolution of recruiting, the

522
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: process has sped way up, and so by the time

523
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Speaker 1: these kids are sophomores now they're getting twenty and thirty

524
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Speaker 1: offers UM offers in their world UM, And so after

525
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Speaker 1: that it's like, why do I have to camp because

526
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Speaker 1: I have all the offers I need? And so come

527
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Speaker 1: junior and senior year and they're not camping anywhere because

528
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: they've already made it. And so you have to your

529
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: evaluations are getting earlier for camp and and it's hard

530
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Speaker 1: because and it's not fair. A lot of these guys.

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Speaker 1: You might have a wide receiver comes to camp as

532
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Speaker 1: a sophomore and runs a four eight. Well, he's not developed,

533
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Speaker 1: yet he's not strong, so you you don't want to

534
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Speaker 1: ding the guy already on such a young aide, it's

535
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Speaker 1: hard to get that perception out of your mind sometimes, Um,

536
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Speaker 1: when you do have them in camp so early, you know, Uh,

537
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Speaker 1: Mark DJ and I both have been around the Elite

538
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Speaker 1: eleven camps. We've we've seen these quarterbacks come through. You

539
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Speaker 1: guys have had a handful of Elite eleven quarterbacks come through.

540
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Assens goes and becomes a first round pick. You

541
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Speaker 1: guys pick up a transfer ingin fields. When you're evaluating

542
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Uh. At the collegiate level, what are

543
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Speaker 1: some of the critical factors that you're looking for to

544
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Speaker 1: make the decisions on the right gass for your program. Yeah,

545
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: to me personally is I'm looking at agguracy and completion

546
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Speaker 1: percentage um, you know, and then we're also looking at competitors,

547
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: so we're always checking to see what their high school

548
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: record is, do they lead their team to wins, do

549
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: they put their team on their backs? You know? And

550
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: then after that, arm strength is always good, but that's

551
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: the kind of the second chair of things, So we

552
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: want to make sure they're getting the ball to where

553
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: they need to go and uh, you know, they have

554
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Speaker 1: a they have a high success rate. You know. The

555
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Speaker 1: other guy we had here too that they just give

556
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: a shout out to is Joe Burrow, and uh, you know,

557
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: he was phenomenal last week and just the development that

558
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: he's undergone these last few years is incredible as well.

559
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Speaker 1: So do you see the distance travel with some of

560
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Speaker 1: these guys though? I mean, I think you guys sometimes

561
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: you get credit for recruiting these kids. I don't know

562
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Speaker 1: necessarily that you know the programs at Florida and at

563
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, if you guys have gotten the credit for

564
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Speaker 1: developing these kids. I mean, is there an example of

565
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Speaker 1: of maybe one player that could show the distance traveled

566
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Speaker 1: once he arrived on campus and and when he left

567
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Speaker 1: as a finished product. Yeah, the first name on the

568
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Speaker 1: top of my head would be Darrenly. You know, he

569
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Speaker 1: was a high school quarterback, played a little bit of safety,

570
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Speaker 1: but he was a hundred and eighty pounds that never

571
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Speaker 1: played linebacker and uh, when he had got here. Um,

572
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Speaker 1: you know, coach MC and I have worked together for

573
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Speaker 1: a long time now at Florida now here, so we

574
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Speaker 1: kind of understand body types and what we're each looking for.

575
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Speaker 1: And and I know how he's the best in the country.

576
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: So when these guys get here, he's gonna make them bigger, stronger, faster. Um.

577
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Speaker 1: But Darren just had this mentality to them from day

578
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: one that that he wanted to be great. And so

579
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Speaker 1: we put in the time in the in the weight

580
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Speaker 1: room and uh, you know, a couple of years later

581
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Speaker 1: his first round drafted. You know, work and thinking about

582
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Speaker 1: that because I keep hearing the recurring theme you talk

583
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Speaker 1: about competitors, guys that wanted to be great. Uh, the mindset.

584
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Speaker 1: Because you're not around the kids a lot, how are

585
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Speaker 1: you able to kind of just determine which guys are

586
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Speaker 1: the competitors that you really want on campus? How do

587
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Speaker 1: you see that if you haven't been around them a lot. Yeah,

588
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: it's a great point. And that's where you see you

589
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: or you miss on guys sometimes because you don't know

590
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Speaker 1: what you thought. You know. Um, So I think when

591
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: they come on campus it's hugess well, you know always

592
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: say it's almost like a job interview for them. So

593
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: we want to see what their demeanor is. We want

594
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Speaker 1: to see how they interact with people. Are they just

595
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: staring at their phones the whole time? Um, if they're

596
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Speaker 1: out of practice, are they engaged, Are they getting in

597
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: the huddles? Are they looking to see what the coaches

598
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: are saying coaching up their guys, or are they kind

599
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: of just laying back and none the bleachers not really engaged. Um,

600
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: those are small little things we're looking for. UM. But

601
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, we try to watch the film to try

602
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: to get to see how tough they are. You know,

603
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: do they put their their face on people? Um, to

604
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: show that at least they love they loved playing. I

605
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: want to get to uh, some of these specific players.

606
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Been so many great players you've had a chance to recruit,

607
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: evaluate and develop their in the program. But before we

608
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: get to you know, all this long list of guys.

609
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: So we we've asked this question of a bunch of

610
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Speaker 1: college coaches and that we've got some fascinating answers. UM,

611
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: the best high school football player that you've ever seen

612
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: could have been somebody ended up coming to the school

613
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: you're at, or could have been somebody went somewhere else,

614
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: but just the best high school football player you've ever

615
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: laid eyes on. So, actually I cheated on this one

616
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: because I'm a regular follower of the podcast. You gotta

617
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: do a great job and the profession. Um, you know,

618
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: i'd highly I'd highly recommend um listening and watching this.

619
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Speaker 1: But um, a few guys, I know, Sammy Watkins's name

620
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: had been thrown around a few times and and I

621
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: agree he was. He was a freak show. UM. Jadeveon Clowney,

622
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Speaker 1: you know he was. He was another one. UM, just

623
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: a couple other ones just at being at Ohio State.

624
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Speaker 1: You know, the Bossas and Chase Youn were both all

625
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: three of those guys you put on their film, and

626
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: there's there're no brainers that these guys are gonna be

627
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: top five draft picks in high school. And so, um,

628
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: you know all those guys, we are great, great players

629
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Speaker 1: in high school. It's funny that you bring up so

630
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: many of those guys. One of the guys that I

631
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: was around that was on your campus was Ezekiel Elliott

632
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Speaker 1: And so obviously you were there when Zeke was there.

633
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: What was he like as a buck in terms of

634
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: like the it factor and what he brought to the table.

635
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Zeke was one of the hardest guys um that that trained. Um,

636
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: he just has this unique genetic material that that he's

637
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: been blessed with um. But the thing you noticed was

638
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Zeke when he was a freshman is that he was

639
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: the hardest and most violent player without the ball. So

640
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Speaker 1: when he was trying to block people, the defensive guys,

641
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: he was trying to hurt them. And so you knew

642
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: right away. And even if you go back to the

643
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Purdue game when he was a freshman running down on kickoff,

644
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: he lays a guy out, so you knew he had

645
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: he had this in him. And he was just so

646
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: freaky athletically, you know, state champion in purler Um. He

647
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: had athletic parents that played football Missouri and his mom

648
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: was a track star at Missouri, So he had all

649
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: this genetic intangibles and uh, he also had the toughness

650
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: and it factor of the way he trained as well.

651
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: What was he What was he like when you watched

652
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: ahead high school? Yeah? What was like? Yeah? So in

653
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: high school back then, um, you know, it was just

654
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: after his junior year of high school and he may

655
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: have had like four or five offers, and so I

656
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: just threw on his game tape watched him. I'm like, wow,

657
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: this this kid is pretty good. But he only really

658
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: had like Missouri offer and in a few middle, middle,

659
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: till tier schools and uh, so I hit him up

660
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: him and his parents said, hey, we'd love to have

661
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: you on campus. They're here that next weekend. They came

662
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: right away for a junior day and uh and so

663
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: they had a great experience. And then it kind it

664
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: felt like, hey, this kid may want to commit. Are

665
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: are we sure? Because at the same time, there's this

666
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: other kid. He's Mr. Five Star, number one running back

667
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: in the country, who were number twenty seven, Freddie George

668
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: And so you have the three stars Zekiel Elliott and

669
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: the five star guy. So we have the decision to

670
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: make because he wants to commit. So you start really

671
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: studying and and he's playing in lower level Missouri ball.

672
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a heart evaluation. But you just

673
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: saw the way he ran and how athletic and fast

674
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: he was that you knew he had the potential. Now

675
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: did we know he was gonna be the best running

676
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: back in the NFL at that time? In no way. Um,

677
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: but he was glad it worked out, and uh, you

678
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: know he's he's a great, great player and a great person. Well,

679
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned the bossa brothers. Let's let's start one at

680
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: a time. Here go back to Joey Bosa, what you

681
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: saw from him on the high school field and and

682
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: how quickly he was able to translate that once he

683
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: got on campus. Yeah. So I first met Joey um

684
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: the beginning of his junior year. Um, he had already

685
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: had a few offers Alabama. At Florida State, I think

686
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: offered him a sophomore. And you just see this guy

687
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: walk through the door as as fifteen years old, and

688
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: you know he's already physically elite for that age. And

689
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: he was just a tough guy, went hard. You know,

690
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: he was a little bit stiff, but he was just

691
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: blowing people up and he was dominating on the field. Um,

692
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: so he was really an easy answer. And then um,

693
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: you know his dad having the jeans heated, and then

694
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: you look the homework and his family. So I had

695
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: actually left Florida to come to a house state right

696
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: when Joey recruitment to really start picking up, and he

697
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: was one of the first guys I told coach Martin like, Hey,

698
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: we really need to get on this guy. And then

699
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: come to find out his mom is a graduate of

700
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State. His uncle was the first round draft pick

701
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: at Ohiose State. So with all those ties, and his

702
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: mom was like, Nick's gonna be the easy one. Joe

703
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: is the one you're gonna have to convince. Um. And

704
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: so I always tell Joey to this day, we only

705
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: took you to get Nick. So so obviously we're glad

706
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: both of them were buck guys, and they're they're killing

707
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the NFL as well right now. Those are phenomenal stories.

708
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: I can hear those recruiting stories um all day. If

709
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: you just could pick one trade or one thing that

710
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: a player that dones dead uniform has to have, what

711
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: would be the trade? You know? The one thing is

712
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: you would say toughness no matter what position. Football is

713
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: a violent game and you want them to be tough.

714
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: But I think the one you don't hear as often

715
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: as acceleration because football is not just a linear game.

716
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, you have to put your foot in the

717
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: ground and change directions. So when I'm watching a lot

718
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: of these positions that that's the one thing when when

719
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: they have to put their foot in the ground and

720
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: get the point A to point B, can they accelerate?

721
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: And he was watching so much film to get the

722
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: elite accelerators. They all stand out and and most of them, Um,

723
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: that we've ended up taking it have been the ones

724
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: have done really well playing here if they can, if

725
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: they can do that. We we've gone through all these

726
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: guys that have gone through. Ohiose saying we could. We

727
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: could go all day long. We talked about Denzel Ward,

728
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore. Uh, we've talked about You've still got Conley

729
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: was the first round pick, Elf Fly Michael though, and

730
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: the list goes, it's endless, it goes on with the

731
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: guys you've had there. But I'm curious, Mark, is there

732
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: one I um that you that you almost got but

733
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't get, uh, that still gets you to this day

734
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: that ended up being a great player. Um. The one

735
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: who I thought we would get would probably be Christian

736
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Wilkins who went to Clemson. Um. He was another just

737
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: a great player in high school, dominated every game. UM,

738
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: he knew he was gonna be a guy who was

739
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a top top draft pick. And he was

740
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: an even better kid. Um. And you know, I'm glad

741
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: he had a great success story Clemson, UM vital for

742
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: their championship runs and uh, you know he was a

743
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: beast and and really disappointed when we when we found

744
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: out he was gonna go to Clemson. You know, I know,

745
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: I know you're a little disappointed by that because he

746
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: went on he won a couple of national championships. But

747
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: you guys have always been in the mix and you

748
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: guys have won. Certainly, I want to get a little

749
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: insight on what is the culture there. What is it

750
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: about Ohio State that allows you guys to always kind

751
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: of be in the mix in the hunt for the title. Well,

752
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State kind of sells itself and we have great facilities. Um,

753
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: it's great people here. Um. But right now, in the

754
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: last few years, really starting with four team when we

755
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: won the championship, is the culture of that locker room

756
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: is so strong. We have we have great kids in

757
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: here in the program, and we really put a lot

758
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: of effort to making sure we are taking the right kids.

759
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: So the five stars behind their name doesn't matter if

760
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: if they're gonna come here and be a cancer and

761
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: are selfish and their only goal is to get to

762
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and not be a team player. And so, um,

763
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I think we've done a good job of just making

764
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: sure that culture stays strong. Is bringing in the right guys,

765
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: guys who are hungry who want to compete and are

766
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: not afraid to compete because they know they're gonna come

767
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: here and have you know, legit guys in front of

768
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: them as well. And uh, it's worked out really well.

769
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: And you know, the transistance been great with coach Day

770
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: and we're trying to keep that culture strong and you know,

771
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: keep winning. Well, it doesn't get much better than the

772
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: program you guys have built there at Ohio State. Mark

773
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for your time. Man. We wish

774
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: you the best of luck and I'm sure we'll be

775
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: in touch as as we get towards the spring. Good

776
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: luck to you and the Buck Eyes. Thanks guys, appreciate

777
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: you having me on well Buck, I I thought listening

778
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: to Mark talk there, I could listen to him. I

779
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: mean I could have hit him up on re single

780
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: high school player, because I guarantee you he could tell

781
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: you stories not only about the guys Ohio State signed,

782
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: but just all the top players over the last decade

783
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: plus because he had a chance to get his eyes

784
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: on him and recruit him. Look, he did a great

785
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: job of kind of bringing it down for us. I

786
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: think the bigger thing is how advanced it has become.

787
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: In the collegiate lovel when it comes to recruiting, what

788
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: they're doing, the greatest skill that he talked about, the

789
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: critical factors, all the things that he mentioned are the

790
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: same things that were mentioned in the war room when

791
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: we were there at Scouts, and so I just believe

792
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: it is it is made college football even more like

793
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: pro football in terms of the way people evaluate and

794
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: go through the process of scouting and recruiting to bring

795
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: those top players to the top programs. Let's bring our

796
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: guy in here because with Nobile, our producer, UM it

797
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: does a little moonlighting there with with the Trojans over

798
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: there at USC working in their personnel department, UM a

799
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: member there. Now, Bill, how how similar the way Mark

800
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: described that is. Has your experience been over there USC? Oh? Yeah,

801
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: it's been great. You know, we have different interns and

802
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: people assigned to different position groups where we're basically assigned

803
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: a position group and a class and we're just watching

804
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: all the guys at that position, tracking them every week,

805
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: cutting up film of each guy every weekend. We're also

806
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: just looking for guys throughout the week. It's been really good.

807
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've learned so much about scouting with the

808
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: guys there, Trey and Spencer, and you know, I would

809
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: love to have you guys sometime come through there, come through. Yeah,

810
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: give me them, give me the give they give me

811
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: a Trojan sweatshirt. They can give me. Like, what am

812
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I doing? I can't. I can't do it for I

813
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: can't do it for free. If I'm gonna dedicate my

814
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: time and my energy, I'm gonna work on work for

815
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: the tar Heels. I don't know if we work for

816
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: the Trojan, But maybe they'd throw a little something in

817
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: a little goodie bag. Maybe maybe I can be convinced

818
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: to give them a little a little time. Maybe you

819
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: could just wear your Maybe you could wear your Tar

820
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Heel shirt with the score of the game when you

821
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: guys beat him Buck and you can wear that over

822
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: there to the facilities that that that'd kind of be fun.

823
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: That would be fun to go back over your stat line.

824
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: What what do you got in the end zone? You

825
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: gotta I didn't get so I caught I caught a

826
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: big pass. So I caught a big pass over Jayson

827
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: c or not that I remember. But I did catch

828
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: you big post and he fell behind me and I

829
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: didn get a chance to win inz But you know,

830
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: it's one of those things we're playing on the baseball

831
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: fielding Anaheim. But I think it's really cool. I think

832
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: it is really cool because DJ, we have a lot

833
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: of UH people that listen that are aspiring scouts. I

834
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: think it's an opportunity where people can get in UH

835
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: volunteering first. I think at their high schools. UH in

836
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: high school, kind of getting into the mix, being around

837
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: h with the explosion of huddle and how everyone has

838
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: Huddle highlights and taves, they can start kind of looking

839
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: at people. You can see everybody going all the way

840
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: back to Odell Beckham Jr. Just google his name and

841
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: holder you see those but being able to evaluate those guys,

842
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: being able to kind of have a point of reference, UH,

843
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: taking some of the stuff that we talked about here

844
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: in terms of creating a grading skill and then being

845
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: able to go to your college and and and work

846
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: there and work in the recruiting department. There's so many

847
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: opportunities that are available now that weren't available when we

848
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: were kind of coming through the system. That, man, you

849
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: have every opportunity to be in you wait, have there's

850
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: something that you desire to be to me, and I

851
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: like to explain it this way because we both get

852
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: asked all the time. I want, I want to be

853
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: an NFL scout? What do I do? How do I

854
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: do it? And to me, you're some kids that you'll

855
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: know right away because you'll say, well, you know you're

856
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to volunteer, Um, go volunteer. If you're in college,

857
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: go volunteer in the football department. Tell me do whatever

858
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: you want to do. Well, I don't know, I you know,

859
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: I just want to work in the NFL. I want to,

860
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, make some money. And I'm like, okay, well

861
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: then you have no shot. But it'd be like it'd

862
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: be like saying, you know, I want to be a

863
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to be a doctor walking to a hospital

864
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: and say where do I get my stethoscope? Here? I

865
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: want to be a doctor? Like, Okay, there's a process

866
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: here that you gotta take and it's a long process.

867
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: But if you're willing to do it, it's available to you.

868
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: And that's that's my advice. Two kids, If you want

869
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: to get into scouting, and you you aspire to be

870
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: an NFL general manager one day, take that first step.

871
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: That first step is to go to a college is

872
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: the one year at or if you know, if you've

873
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: graduated from college, go approach them and tell them, Hey,

874
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm willing to work. You don't have to pay me anything.

875
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you need me to do?

876
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I'll cut tape, I'll do whatever you want. And now

877
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Bill is kind of on that path right now. He's

878
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's spending his time there at USC and

879
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: helping them in any way that he possibly can. And UM,

880
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: if that's that's what you desire to be, you've gotta

881
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: be willing to do all that stuff to to go

882
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: along that path here. It's very tough to just crack

883
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: right away and jump right into the NFL. Absolutely. And

884
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I think the other thing that Bill has been able

885
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: to do, like with technology and video and being able

886
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: to cut and edit and do all of those things,

887
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: it helps. The more that you can do from a

888
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: technological standpoint, the better it. Um increases your chance and

889
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: enhances your chances of getting a long term job into

890
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: thing because in the recruiting world, man, video is everything,

891
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: and with huddle and highlights and tapes and even in

892
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: our league when it comes to touch tapes, and you know,

893
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: when it comes down to the meetings, how we had

894
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: to make our our sequence list and our tapes where

895
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: we could put their best plays up there. Having the

896
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: ability to be able to do all of those things

897
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: just makes you in value, but gives an opportunity to

898
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: get a lower level job and entry level job to

899
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: get into building and then from there you kind of

900
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: take the ball around with it, no doubt. Uh. Look,

901
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: that's that's our advice, or free free of charge our

902
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: advice or if people want to get into the scouting world,

903
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: all right, buck college football wise, this weekend, I thought

904
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: maybe a player too that you're looking forward to, uh

905
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: to watching? Who do you have your eyes on this weekend? No,

906
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: it's funny because I'm looking at the list of names

907
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: that you you brought up, and I certainly want to

908
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: talk about these guys, and I think we should talk

909
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: about them in twos in terms of Jerry Judy and C. D. Lamb,

910
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: because I think this could be a conversation that we

911
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: have into the spring about which one would you want

912
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: to potentially be your number one receiver if you're a

913
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: team in need of one. And Jerry Judy from Alabama, look, man,

914
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: he's a route running king. In terms of He is

915
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: as policy as they come as a route runner, very natural,

916
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: very smooth, very fluid, but he has the explosiveness to separate. Uh.

917
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: We talked about the urgency. He has the urgent athleticism

918
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: that have heard Thomas Dimitrov talk about when he describes

919
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Julio Jones not the same kind of player, but um

920
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: very similar in their ability to kind of own the

921
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: number one position. Outstanding hands has rack ability. It is

922
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: really really hard to pick holes in his game. The

923
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: only thing that I would say is from a side standpoint,

924
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: in terms of book he doesn't necessarily look like you're

925
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: traditional number one that people have grown accustomed to seeing.

926
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: But in terms of skills, in terms of being a craftsman, uh,

927
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: he is everything. And look, it would be hard for

928
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: me to have anything negative to say about Jerry Judy

929
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: and his NFL prospects. Yeah, I know, and and Alabama

930
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: fans thought I was insulting him when I compared him

931
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: to Robert Woods, just in terms of their building. But

932
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: that's how he's that's his frame, that's how he's built.

933
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Now he's got more juice. He's got a little more

934
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: juice than Robert, a little more short area quickness than

935
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Robert Um. But Robert's a guy who's who's really turned

936
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: out to be an outstanding wide receiver in this league.

937
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: And I think Jerry Judy Um, he's equipped for the

938
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: way the game has played. I was just talking to UH.

939
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: I think might have been Polo because one of those

940
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: one of our buddies. The other day, we're talking about,

941
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, some of these bigger wide receivers, and I said, man,

942
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: if you really me and Bucky talk about it, if

943
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: you really look at it outside, you know, there's a

944
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Mike Evans every now and then, Julio Jones every now

945
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: and then. But man, a lot of the receivers are

946
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: having immediate success in the NFL right now, are not

947
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: those big kids Um. Their route runners there got And

948
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, even if you look at Michael Thomas, even

949
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: though he's bigger, he didn't blow you away. It's just

950
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: he's a route runner. And those are the guys that

951
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: have had success. So a guy like Jerry Judy, who

952
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: who can hang his hat on his route running, he's

953
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: going to serve him well. It is gonna Worland. We

954
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: talked about this after last year's Drafter, after watching UH

955
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, and those guys kind of emerge, uh during

956
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: their rookie season that at the wire you have at

957
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: the wire receiver position always favor skills, craftsmanship over athleticism

958
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: and explosiveness. The guys who are really being able to

959
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: be very, very productive in the league are the guys

960
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: who have mastered their craft. They have all the tools

961
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: in the toolbox when it comes to getting open and separating. UM.

962
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: And this even goes to a guy that we can

963
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: talk about in Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown was a four

964
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: or five seven receiver that is not explosive based on

965
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: the number on the clock, but when you watch him,

966
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: he has ability to separate in and out of breaks

967
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: and so craftsman over athletes. Those are the guys that

968
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: typically kind of make their mark in the league early

969
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: in the year, early in their career. I think, yeah,

970
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: I think about Keenan Allen is another great example of that. Um,

971
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: you hit on a good one there with with Jerry

972
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Judy and Ceedee Lamb is is Ceedee Lamb. Look, he's

973
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: not gonna blow you away on the stop Watch either,

974
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: but just incredible high point skills and and I keep

975
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: coming back to this this phrase, Buck, I thought We

976
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: saw it with with Dante Moncrief the issues he had

977
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: that that we talked about contact balance, right with running backs,

978
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: there's there's contact strength with receivers. Can you can you

979
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: absorb contact and still have the strength in your hands

980
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: to be able to finish um. To me, that is

981
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: a huge deal. We look at the Super Bowl with

982
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, you know, maybe a little bit stronger contact strength. Uh,

983
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: it's a big time play in that game. And and

984
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: to me, Ceedee Lamb has tremendous contact strength with his hands.

985
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Look outstanding. Uh you tell the hand eye coordination, functional strength,

986
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. Like in basketball terms, he's

987
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: a rebounder. I'll call him to Dennis Rodman effect, the

988
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: ability to be able to get it and endure all

989
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: the contact and come down with it. And in fact

990
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers, and some people would

991
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: say the best wide receiver. His best trade is his

992
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: high point and his contact balance when it comes to

993
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: catching the ball, and that is DeAndre Hopkins. Dean J.

994
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: Hopkins isn't one that necessarily separates from you um horizontally,

995
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: but he said creates separation vertically, meaning when the ball

996
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: is in the year. He goes up and he's able

997
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: to high point it and even though you're draped on him,

998
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't affect his ability to bring the ball in.

999
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: And it is different to watch. It's not the normal

1000
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: separation that we used to seeing. But after watching Newke

1001
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Hopkins dominate in the league, I'm looking for more guys

1002
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: like that, and Ceedee Lamb kind of falls into that

1003
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: category in terms of how he plays the game. No

1004
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: doubt those two wide receiver is gonna be fun to

1005
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: watch them. Jerry Judy going up against South Carolina. Uh,

1006
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb out here in the Rose Bowl in front

1007
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: of a bunch of OU fans, I would imagine, and

1008
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: probably not very many U c l A fans maybe Yeah. Uh,

1009
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: they were giving away free tickets left. I hear. That's

1010
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: usually not a good sign. Uh. Last one here, Those

1011
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: are two players that I think are gonna be fun

1012
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: to watch. One more I just added on here, Buck

1013
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: Nate Stanley from Iowa. Um, you look over his last

1014
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: five games, go back to their bowl game, in previous

1015
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: two games, and then what he's done this year. So

1016
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: he's got I believe it's fourteen touchdowns, two picks, his

1017
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: completion percentage this year is is much improved over what

1018
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: it was last year. He's at sixty percent. UM. They're

1019
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: five and oh in those last five games. So when

1020
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: I went back and watched him in this last week's game,

1021
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: believe it was against Rutgers, Buck, you see the big

1022
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: arm um. He's got an NFL body. He had a

1023
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: couple of nice balls down the field. He can drive

1024
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: the ball outside the hash. Now the accuracy, even though

1025
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: the percentage has increased, there's still some inconsistency there. H.

1026
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: He had a deep shot for easy touchdown that he missed. Um,

1027
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: some balls kind of the nose will go down on

1028
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: him working in the middle of the field. So he's

1029
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: not he is not a finished product. But what you

1030
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: have as somebody that's big, sturdy, with a strong arm

1031
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: um and gives you those flashes. I just want to see. Um.

1032
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: He's obviously picked it up over the last five games.

1033
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: Um does he continue on this trend and keep getting

1034
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: better and better and better? Um, he's gonna be an

1035
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: interesting prospect, somebody that maybe more valuable ten years ago

1036
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: than he is now because he's not not a guy's

1037
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: gonna move around a ton um. But I think He's

1038
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: an interesting player, and they play Iowa State this week,

1039
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on the quarterback there for the

1040
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: for the Hawkeyes. Look doing a really good job. We

1041
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: saw him last year. The way he was able to

1042
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: distribute a ball to those big old tight ends. The

1043
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: fact that he's continued to improve and continue to throw

1044
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: the ball around the yard um a lot of playing quarterback.

1045
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: We heard it. Uh Pantoni talked about the accuracy, decision

1046
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: making completion percentage. I want to see guys that consequently

1047
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: hit consistently hit the strikes on and they allow their

1048
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: guys been able to guys to run after the catch.

1049
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: He has been able to do that, and the fact

1050
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: that he's been able to do it at Iowa where

1051
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: they may not have the superior athletes on the perimeter,

1052
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: speaks volumes, and so look, you're just kind of looking

1053
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: for him to continue to keep stacking these solid games

1054
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: because at the end of the year, if he has

1055
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of solid games, we're gonna have to talk

1056
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: about him, because his resume is pretty impressive, no doubt. Well,

1057
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,000
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Speaker 1: uh buck man, it was it was fun. Man. I

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Speaker 1: love talking to Pantoni. I could talk to him for

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Speaker 1: a long time. But it always fires me up to

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Speaker 1: when you find out guys like that and there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch more of them, uh that are running recruiting for

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Speaker 1: these colleges, that that enjoyed the podcasts and are able

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Speaker 1: to to get a little something out of it. That

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Speaker 1: always fires me up. Man. It's great, man. I think

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Speaker 1: the whole uh thing and was beauty beautiful about Like

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Speaker 1: what we've been able to do is like just kind

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Speaker 1: of threw ourselves in the scouting community talked about it

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Speaker 1: because so much of it is sharing, sharing information, sharing

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Speaker 1: knowledge sharing, what is your process when it comes to

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Speaker 1: evaluating players or team building. I just kind of love

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Speaker 1: valuable insight on what it takes to build a winner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what do we call these guys now fops friend

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Speaker 1: of pod? I mean, you got a bunch of them

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Speaker 1: who wasn't last year that we had that kind of

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Speaker 1: came out of left field that we ended up. Um no,

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Speaker 1: Joe testatory, Joe Testatory Yeah fo p uh So anyways,

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Speaker 1: that that always fires us up. It was a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: I do want to give another shout out because I've

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Speaker 1: seen we've got a bunch more of these five star

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Speaker 1: wanna have before we get out of here? Buck No,

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Speaker 1: I mean fantastic weekend. I'm looking forward to seeing all

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