1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Papa's Perspective, brought to you 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: by Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store and Mattress 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: partner of the New York Giants. And we welcome into 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the Hackensacho Meridian Health podcast studio Keep Getting Better, and 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: we are joined by Super Bowl champion Richie Seibert, who 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: joins us here on the show. Rich how are you. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: I am awesome, Bob, Thanks for having me. It's great 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: to be back. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Every time you walk into the building, you look like 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you've been rejuvenated. Do you really miss it that much? 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: I love seeing you guys, all right. I love coming 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: through or seeing the guys that were here when I 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: was here saying Hi, being around. It's cool. Right, this 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: is where I spent ten years, so this has got 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: a special place in my heart. 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this ten years because you know there's 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: first round draft picks and then there's guys that sign 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: as free agents. Obviously you were a free agent out 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: of Western Illinois. Just explain what it was like trying 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: to make an NFL roster for the first time. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it was tough, right, I think you just go 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: really hard and you don't worry about it, and you 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: do the best you can and hopefully somebody notices you. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: But it's every year, right, it's not your one, right, 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: I think back every year, not you, but the media 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: had me out of here, right, right, So you just 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: want I just want to prove people wrong and just 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: keep fighting and playing with your buddies. And it's a 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: sport that I love to play, So why not give 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: it everything you have? 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: When you think about what happened, what's after twenty eleven 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: and the new CBA where there's no longer two A 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: days and padded practices, I mean, you were able to 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of the old situation. I would think it's 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: a little bit harder for guys now that are undrafted 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: free agents like you were to come in and try 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: to command respect because the reps are so limited. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: I would want to be here, I don't. I don't 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: know how they're going to I don't know how they 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: do it now. Right when I was a rookie, my 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: first my first ten years, right, we were here the 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: entire offseason, working together as a unit. We made our 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: hay in the spring. Right the season got over, we 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: took a two week vacation and then we're back here 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: doing drills, not practicing, but doing drills with your lineman. 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: The coach would be on the bubble, you know, Mouse 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: had us out in the bubble those first couple of 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: years doing stuff. It'd be tough to learn with a 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: limited amount of time in the offseason. 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Take me to two thousand and two, because, yeah, you 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: make the roster, you make the team in all one undrafted, 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: and now you start all sixteen games. What was that 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: like for you? Knowing where you came from to receive 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: that opportunity. 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Uh, it was obviously pretty cool. Jim McNally got me 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: ready to play. I think that on line group with Luke, myself, Whittle, Bober, 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: and Rosenthal, like, we're all very similar to each other. 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Luke was a first round pick, Rosie was a second 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: or third round pick, but me, Widow and Bober were 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: all free agents. We had great older guys that year 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: prior to learn from in Glenn Parker and Ron Stone 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: and Lomas Brown to teach us how to be professionals. 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: But we played well as a unit. Right We weren't 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: the best unit in the field, but we love the 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: game of football and we played for each other, and 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: I think that goes a long ways. 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I know it's a sore spot with Giants fans, but 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: because that two thousand and two team I thought could 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: have gone to the super Bowl. I thought that was 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I thought that team was fantastic when you watch, if 71 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: you ever see it on NFL network. How did they 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: not call pass interference on you in the end zone? 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, but thanks for thanks for bringing up 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: bad memories. You're up by a few points, you end 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: up losing a game in the playoffs, and you don't 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: have many opportunities like that throughout your career or throughout 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: the organization's history. Right, it was passing appearance. They came 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: out the next day and said it was I believe 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: there was somebody else on our team that was running 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: down the field that wasn't supposed to be running down 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: the field. So ship been off setting penalties rekick. I 82 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: always said I could have been David Tyree before David 83 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: Tyree's catch, I catched that ball in score right, Yeah, 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: I got commercials, I got TV deals, I got shoe deals. 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: I got a lot of stuff going on for me. 86 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: So being pulled down at the two yard line before 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: the ball got there. That was passing interference. 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: So here you are a starter in your second year 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: in the league, is an undrafted free agent, and then 90 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: catastrophe strikes in two thousand and three and you suffer 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: this severe injury that cost you the entire four season. 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: But you make it back. 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: Now there's a coaching change, so coach Conflin's here, Coach 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Flaherty is now the offensive line coach. What was that 95 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: like for you, trying to now earn their respect after 96 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: coach McNally and coach Fossil were no longer here. 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: I just wanted an opportunity to prove myself. I remember 98 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: those are pretty dark days right that year and a 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: half when I was rehabbing. Thank goodness, we had Ronnie Barnes, 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: wise Byron Hansen was here, Steve Kennelly that are still here. 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: They're all still here, right, good people. They got me 102 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: pretty much back. But it was me and Ron Daye 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: that offseason. Coffin was here, Jerry Palmery was here. Me 104 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: and Ron Daye had to come in and lift every 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 2: day because we had nothing else to do. Right. Ron 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: was on the getting shape diet right, and I was 107 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: on the rehab diet. To get my leg right to 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: play football. But that was it for like the first 109 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: month and a half before he started hiring his staff. 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: And uh, Jerry Palmery kicked my ass, right, Can I 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: say that on here? Yes she can, right, Jerry Palmery 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: kicked my butt. And I remember Coach Clafflin. He was 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: the only coach you would walk by a n even 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: say boo to me. So I was like, oh, this 115 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: is gonna be tough. But my teammates had my back. 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Ronnie and Byron and Steve and Lee, right, they all 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: pushed me and I found a way back out there. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: So you get back in oh five, and now suddenly 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: you're a starter, and uh, there was full time star 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: you seven. You started three games in six. The bond 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: that you guys formed, because I notice even today, like 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: last year with one hundred year anniversary, you guys still 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: to take a picture line up the same way. 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, on our tippy toes, lined up in the same 125 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: positions that we played. We're buddies, we're friends. We love 126 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: each other right like we all have. Most of us 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: have families. We get along, we go out to dinner, 128 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: we hang out. We don't do it enough because our 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: lives have all taken us in different directions, but they're 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: your buddies. Like if you worked out with your buddies 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: every single day from when the season got over until 132 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: the season started, and you went to breakfast together, and 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: you ate together, and you did everything but sleep together. 134 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna play for each other and we had a 135 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: lot of fun together. 136 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: So let's talk about life after football, because you know, 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of players try to find their space, try 138 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: to find where they fit in. 139 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: You know. 140 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I talked with Henry behind Oski, and he tried being 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: in the personnel department and he loved it, but he 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: felt like a higher calling, so he got involved in 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: education and now he's a principal in a high school. 144 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: You've become one of the best high school football coaches 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: in the state of New Jersey. Was that ever really 146 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: part of the plan? 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I 148 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: just knew that football is really the only thing I 149 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: ever did right. I wasn't the best student in college. 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: I went to class, but I wasn't the best student. 151 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: I didn't like going to class, but I loved football 152 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: and I want to be part of the game. So 153 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: it was either try to get into coaching at a 154 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: higher level and not see your family or coach high 155 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: school football and had more time to be with your 156 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: family and having three kids, having two boys that played football. 157 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: I always said, I don't need to coach my kids, 158 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: but I need to be able to watch my kids play. 159 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: So to be able to coach my two sons for 160 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: their four years of high school with special for me. 161 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: I've coached before they were there, and now I'm coaching 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: after they both left. I'm glad I got into coaching 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: high school football. I love giving back to the game. 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: I love hopefully doing it the right way right, pushing 165 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: these kids to the max, but being fair to them, 166 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: being honest, and trying to give our team the most 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: successful chance to be successful on Friday nights. Coaching is 168 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: harder than playing, and I think high school coaching is 169 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: probably the hardest level to coach because we don't get 170 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: we don't get the athletes twelve hours a day or 171 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: eight hours a day. We have three hours of practice 172 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: and that's it. That's film, lifting and practicing, so we 173 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: get a lot of complish I went watch on Hills 174 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: down wore in New Jersey. I love my coaching staff. 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: I think that makes it easy for me. I have 176 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: way too many coaches, but we have fun together and 177 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: the kids see that, and they have fun together, and 178 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: we just try to enjoy the game of football together 179 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: as a group. 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: What do you find yourself like any person that is 181 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: influenced by important people? Do you find yourself repeating phrases 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: that your coach is hit you with constantly? 183 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: Mostly Coach Coffin's quotes. I think I bucked people here. 184 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, can you send me all the quotes? 185 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Because Coach Coffin was a quote guy. Like we'd sit 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: meetings and he'd read off quotes NonStop and a lot 187 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: of them hit home. So I had them sent to 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: me and I'm I would say, I'm very similar to 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Coach Coffin and some of his expressions that he's used 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: over the past. Right, team above self, all the team 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: stuff I really truly enjoy and I think that's what 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: makes teams good. Right. Individualism is nothing in football. You 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: can have the best player, but if you don't have 194 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: the best guys around them, it doesn't matter. 195 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: Coach Coauflin also, and he's admitted this, you know, on 196 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: shows and interviews and stuff. Like that he changed a 197 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: little bit right from when you first met him to 198 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: what O seven looked like and then thereafter, what did 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: you take from that and how do you apply that 200 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: to yourself as a coach. 201 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: I think you have to get to know your players, right. 202 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: I think coach once coach often got to know us 203 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: as people and not just as football players. I think 204 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: that's when the switch happened, and we'll have our thoughts 205 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: on why. But having grandkids helped, and having a great 206 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: kids at practice watching practice helps. Right, There's more to 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: life than football. Like we all want to win just 208 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: as bad, like my high school kids want to win 209 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: just as much as I want to win. But once 210 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: you start getting to know the person and the issues 211 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: everybody has and what they're going through in life, there's 212 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,239 Speaker 2: there's bigger things than the game of football itself. So 213 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: I think just getting to know the person means a lot. 214 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: And then mentoring, like you're hoping that at some point 215 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: in time for these kids that you have, I would 216 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: assume maybe some will go on to play collegiately on 217 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: some level, maybe some won't. Most of them probably won't. 218 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: But I guess what you'd like to probably do is 219 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: say man when they're in their life to say man, 220 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Coach Cybert said this to me and this will help 221 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: me through this situation. Is that a rewarding concept? 222 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: It is? And another big reward for me as a 223 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: coach is I've been there now ten years, nine or 224 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: ten years. I don't keep track of time very well, 225 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: but when my former players come back to watch practice 226 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: or games and they want to be there and they 227 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: want to talk to the guys on the team and 228 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: if they played college football grade but if not, it 229 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: doesn't matter right worthy in life. And over the last 230 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: four or five years, more and more start trickling back 231 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: during the summer or during the season and they reach 232 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: out and say, coach, can I stop by practice to 233 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: see the guys. I think that's the biggest reward for 234 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: me as a coach, having these guys want to be back. 235 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: When I first took the job at watching, I couldn't 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: get guys that come back that played there. And now 237 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: they want to be back. I think that's pretty cool. 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: What about managing expectations because it's you know, you have 239 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,359 Speaker 1: a track record, you have success. There's no free agency 240 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: to speak of, and there's not a draft. You're dealing 241 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: with a certain collection of kids. How do you manage that? 242 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: Just prove people wrong. Right, have been saying that we're 243 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: not the greatest football school in New Jersey, and I 244 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: think my personal life, I'm proving people wrong your entire life, 245 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: in your career, right playing football. Just prove them wrong. 246 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Put a chip on your shoulder and go play. Play 247 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: the best you can play, and what happens happens. I'm 248 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: a firm believer if you play hard and don't make 249 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: the mistakes, you can be in every game. I don't 250 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: care who you're playing. It's all coughing stuff, right, don't 251 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: turn the ball over, control of the clock, but just 252 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: go hard and prove everybody wrong. 253 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: Last year, the Giants celebrated one hundred seasons and you 254 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: were voted as one of the top one hundred players 255 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise. Your whole group made 256 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: that list. What did that mean to you? 257 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: Personally? It was pretty special. It really didn't when you 258 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: called me and told me I didn't believe you, right, 259 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of great football players that 260 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: come through this organization, obviously, but the day that I 261 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: got to come be with all the guys on it 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: and you looked around. It was pretty cool. It was 263 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: a pretty cool group of people to be a part of. 264 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: Pretty special. I was happy that my entire family got 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: to be here for that game last year. My parents 266 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: and my sister came out, and my my own family, 267 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: my wife and kids. It's pretty cool, right, this is 268 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: I bleed blue. Right once a giant, I was a Giant. 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 2: I was only a Giant, so I don't know anything else. 270 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: And I love this organization. I love the mayors, I 271 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: love the tishes, I love all you guys. When I 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: come back to see you. It's special, right, It's a 273 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: special place. 274 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Last question, Obviously, you've had all the success on the 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: high school level. Now that your kids are getting older, 276 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: are there aspirations to take your coaching skills to a 277 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: next level or are you good at right where you are. 278 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, Bob, I want to take the 279 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: Giants offensive line in the off season and work with them, right, 280 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: because they need somebody to work out. That would be 281 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: my dream goal, right, just to be like I understand 282 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: that the coaches here can't work with their players in 283 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: the offseason like some older guys work with them, like 284 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: make them not make them be here, but have them 285 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: want to be here together. I think if they work 286 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: out together, you're going to get better as a group. 287 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: But no, I love coaching high school football. I love 288 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: watching my oldest son play college football at eat Strasburg. 289 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: It's a great spot to play football and go become 290 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: a teacher and coach. He wants to coach like I do. 291 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: My other son's going to North Dakota to become an airline pilot, 292 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: which scares the hell out of me because he's finding 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: these little planes right now and I'm not going up 294 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: with them. But I'm taking him to school today because 295 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: he's become a manager on the football team when he's 296 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: going to school, which is cool. And then I'm still 297 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: chasing my daughter around, who's fourteen years old, starting high 298 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: school and playing softball basketball. So I still have four 299 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: more years and then i'll be old. Right, he'll be fifty. 300 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: That's not old. 301 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: I'll be almost as old as you. So my window 302 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: might have closed to coach like in college, or try 303 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: to be they said, I respect. I loved all my coaches. 304 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: The amount of time and energy you put in as 305 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: the NFL coach and a college coach with the different 306 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: aspects of the game. I don't know if I want 307 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: to do that. Like I put in a lot of 308 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: time coaching high school football and I don't teach, so 309 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm at the school every day caring about the kids 310 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: in the program. But this is a whole nother ball wax. 311 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: My wife might want me to be gone more, but 312 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: you don't want to be I don't know if I 313 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: want to be gone more. I enjoy hunting, I enjoy fishing, 314 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: I enjoy finer things in life. 315 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, I have a business idea for you. Right, 316 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: So you got the Manning Passing Academy. Now you have 317 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: this tight end. You where these tight ends are? Why 318 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: do you just start like an on line thing. 319 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: Somebody like Sean to come with me or snee right, 320 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: the pretty boys to help me out with it, like 321 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: we do like a turkey hunting in the spring, Like 322 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: get all these onlinemen turkey hunting somewhere and talk football. 323 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: That would be that would be the ideal thing to 324 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: do with these guys. 325 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: And an NFL network will come and shoot it and 326 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: you'll become a zillionaire. 327 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: Sure, be a zillionaire. Do an online play, Bob, thanks 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: for having me on I appreciate it. 329 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Always good to see you. That's Rich Seibert joining us 330 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: on Papa's perspective. It's brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture, 331 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the official furniture store and mattress partner of the New 332 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: York Football Giants.