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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Ben and

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Speaker 2: I were just complaining off air about air travel and

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Speaker 2: now it's just gotten to be so ridiculous. Yesterday I

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Speaker 2: had a four hour delay with a toddler by myself.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the best, but it's also not the worst.

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Speaker 2: But it's been a trend, a crazy, crazy trend. My

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Speaker 2: flights recently, over the past three months have been like

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Speaker 2: four hours plus delayed. But anyway, sounds like Ben had

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Speaker 2: a far more interesting story about a delay, and it

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Speaker 2: happened about a week and a half ago. He was

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Speaker 2: midway through the story and I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: save this for the air. Tell everybody about this, because

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Speaker 2: I thought it was going in a very interesting direction.

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Speaker 2: Go for it and tell the entire story again.

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Speaker 3: You want you want to people to hear this?

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Speaker 2: Huh the people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Well, I you know this is I just

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Speaker 3: fly a lot. I do.

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Speaker 2: You are on a plane every what do you think

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Speaker 2: the average is four to five days?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just I just hit sixty one flights this year,

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Speaker 3: so segments, so.

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Speaker 2: Since two thousand and three, so that's like twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a plane every average a plane like

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Speaker 3: every I don't know, two and a half days. It's

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Speaker 3: a lot. It's a lot. Yeah, do you count well, No,

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Speaker 3: you can see it on your like on your flight

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Speaker 3: like status, like flight segment.

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Speaker 2: Always take the one airline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always take United. I'm a big United.

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Speaker 2: Because it's a big hub.

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Speaker 3: It's a big hub in Denver, A big fan of

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Speaker 3: their service. Got to get the upgrades every now and again.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing is I fights. I flew a ton

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Speaker 3: last year, like one hundred and twenty five flights, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty flights, and then sixty one flights this year.

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Speaker 3: I am still not sometimes even in the top ten

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Speaker 3: when it comes to status on the flights, like people

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Speaker 3: are flying more than me, which blows my mind. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why. Yeah, it's crazy. There's just a lot

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Speaker 3: of people that fly o the time, I guess. But

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Speaker 3: all right, here's the story. I'll tell it quick. So

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Speaker 3: I was in Kukata, Colombia a week and a half

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Speaker 3: ago with Project Hope incredible trip reviewing some of the

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Speaker 3: work being done for pregnant women in Colombia, and it's

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Speaker 3: part of the Venezuelan refugee migration where they are coming

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Speaker 3: over from Venezuela, getting healthcare done in Colombia, moving to

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Speaker 3: Columbia a lot of times. So it was a great trip.

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Speaker 3: But the flight there is pretty tough. So to get

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Speaker 3: to Kukata it takes forever. I think it was like

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Speaker 3: fourteen hours of total travel for a place that's not

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Speaker 3: that far from the US. And we fly into Bogatah.

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Speaker 3: We're going to a Bogata to Houston, Houston back to Denver.

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Speaker 3: We get into Bogatah, get on our flight. It's a

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Speaker 3: midnight takeoff. We'll land in Houston at five forty five

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Speaker 3: or something. I'm supposed to have a flight connection at

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Speaker 3: like seven thirty am back to Denver. Be back in

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Speaker 3: Denver by nine thirty. That sounds great to me, like

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Speaker 3: I'll be home, ready to start my workday, kind of

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Speaker 3: ready to just get through as much as I can

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Speaker 3: before I fall asleep again. Well, we're in Bogata. I

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Speaker 3: get on the flight, I get upgraded, so I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: in first class, very nice, very excited about this. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have some cocktails, I'm gonna have some food. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna relax. Two seats over for me, there's somebody that

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Speaker 3: sits down. The flight attendant comes up to this person

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Speaker 3: and says, what was the problem out there, sir. The

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Speaker 3: guy goes, I have no problem. He goes, well, what

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Speaker 3: taken forever in line. My wife and I asked to

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Speaker 3: move in front of him, and he said f you

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Speaker 3: to me, and nobody talks that way to me and

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Speaker 3: my wife. I'm an ex marine. I don't stand down

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Speaker 3: to nobody, so I'm listening to all this. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: that's interesting, okay. So the flight intendant leaves him, you know,

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Speaker 3: onto the plane. The flight attend did look to the

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Speaker 3: guy two seats over from me, and he goes, everybody

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Speaker 3: not the instigator. I was not the instigator at all.

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Speaker 3: It's his fault. Nobody talks to me that way. Fight

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Speaker 3: attendant goes here's the deal. I don't really care. I

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Speaker 3: And the guy goes, okay, cool, you go, and the

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Speaker 3: flight attendant said, as long as you guys don't fight

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Speaker 2: This is where I stopped a bed, yeah, because I

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Speaker 2: was like, all right, they're about to fight on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes, we're good. And so everybody around us

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Speaker 3: who has heard this is like, okay, good, we're We're

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Speaker 3: already delayed twenty minutes. Now we're gonna get taken off.

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Speaker 3: So the flight attendant sits down. We leave the jet bridge.

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Speaker 3: We're backing up. We get to like probably five minutes

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Speaker 3: from the jet bridge, and this guy two seats over

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Speaker 3: from me, No, you know what, you need to apologize

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Speaker 3: to me, to the flight attendant. You need to apologize

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Speaker 3: to me. I'm not the instigator. You need to apologize

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, is his wife sitting next to him?

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Speaker 3: His wife sitting seven rows back. He got first class.

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Speaker 3: His wife got seat seven C, which is still a

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Speaker 2: The man took first class for himself and didn't give

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Speaker 2: it to his wife. Oh yeah, I'm already judging this guy.

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Speaker 3: Solid move. But so the fight intendant gets onto his phone,

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Speaker 3: calls and says, we got to go back to the gate. Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, this guy is wanting apology. I have nothing

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Speaker 3: He and the fight atenant looks a him and and

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Speaker 3: he's the fight Attendant's right. He goes sir, like, I

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Speaker 3: have no skin in this game. All I want to

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Speaker 3: is right and wrong as long as you guys don't

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Speaker 3: cause any more issues. So we go back to the gate.

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Speaker 3: This guy won't give up. He is literally going, you

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Speaker 3: need to apologize to me. So the fight Tan's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry if I've said anything or done anything that's

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Speaker 3: offended you, but I am basing everything I know off

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Speaker 3: of what everybody else is saying. The guy back there

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Speaker 3: hasn't said a word since you walked onto this plane.

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Speaker 3: He's fine. You're the one that's upset and you're delaying

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Speaker 3: this plane. So long story short, Two and a half

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Speaker 3: hours later, we're still sitting on the plane. This guy's

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, and everybody around me is thinking, take

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Speaker 3: Take him off the plane, just get him out of here.

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Speaker 3: But they were nice to him. They were nice to

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Speaker 3: him because there I think they were thinking, we don't

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Speaker 3: want to get him stuck in Bogatah. Like it's not

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Speaker 3: a bad place. Bogata is an amazing city, but you're

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Speaker 3: to the no fly list. So so he finally take off.

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Speaker 3: Once this guy calms down kind of like gets tired enough,

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Speaker 3: everybody's fuming. Think about how mad this plane is at

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Speaker 3: this guy. At this point, every his wife get involved. No,

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Speaker 3: his wife stayed very quiet, very silent, like just kind

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Speaker 3: of sat back it all. Yeah, she could see it all.

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Speaker 3: So I missed my flight then to Denver. Here's the

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Speaker 3: here's the crazy part. I've never seen this before in

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Speaker 3: Boom boom bom. Take this guy off, walk him to

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Speaker 2: Before everybody deboarded.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, big old he its like theater. There's a

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Speaker 3: big old theater. Everybody was intrigued. Was it a little

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Speaker 3: bit worth the miss? Not worth time? Never never, never

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Speaker 3: worth the miss, but it was. It was one of

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Speaker 3: those things, as we talk about many times before, where

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Speaker 3: but you open up your fingers just to see it

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Speaker 3: because it is like, for whatever reason, it's entertaining. I

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Speaker 3: don't know again, if that's the evil side of me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, if it's the side of me that

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Speaker 3: just likes to see weird stuff happen, because I do,

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Speaker 3: I love it. But yes, I was watching this very intently.

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Speaker 3: I I'm typically not good at keeping my mouth shutting

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Speaker 3: Ben would have been great here. No, because I was

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Speaker 3: very much not on this guy side. What I want

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Speaker 3: to say is shut sit down, stay quiet. You're in

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Speaker 3: first class on a flight. You're fine, like, eat your food,

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Speaker 3: have a cocktail. But the part that was driving me

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Speaker 3: I got him. Like this guy was just like, you know,

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Speaker 3: you are literally ruining this for I don't know how

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Speaker 3: people on a plane, three hundred people on a plane,

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Speaker 3: like you're ruining this for them. Get over yourself. But

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Speaker 3: It is kind of entertaining. I guess it's just it's

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Speaker 3: like one of my best stories to tell from that trip,

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Speaker 3: even though it was a great trip, but it is

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Speaker 3: the story I tell.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, even though I mean that sucked, that

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Speaker 2: delays totally sucked for everybody in the back not being

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Speaker 2: able to watch this too. Because class and your comfy

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Speaker 2: c you probably have your laptop over open doing something

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Speaker 2: and you've had a couple of whiskeys.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm fine, I'm doing I'm doing just fine. Yeah, bourbons, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing just great. Well.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for everybody else and and and you

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Speaker 2: for missing your fight and all that, but and for

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Speaker 2: his wife especially, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For all you flying out there. It's just uh, it

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Speaker 3: just feels like a lot of people are flying. Airports

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Speaker 3: are getting busier, people are traveling again. It's you know

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Speaker 3: it is. I would just say take take it with

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Speaker 3: a grain of salt, like, enjoy the ride. Some airports

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Speaker 3: are nice and hang out in another I could probably

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Speaker 3: give you a list of my favorites and my least favorites.

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Speaker 3: But flying has been wild. Well, we just talked about drama.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about drama on flights, Ashley. There's

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Speaker 3: some drama going on in Bachelor Nation right.

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Speaker 2: Now, right Ben, our first headline is so dramatic.

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Speaker 3: It's so dramatic, Ashley. Uh, it's time let's just jump

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Speaker 3: into bachelor. Yeah, it's a big deal, and I have

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. So on Chris's podcast, the

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Speaker 3: No, he was not, but he was at a breakfast

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he didn't, then he's not doing his

434
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: because he still was running the show at the time.

435
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: I also think based on Chris's you know and this

436
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: is such he had such a good he has such

437
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: a good podcast. Right now, we're going to hear a

438
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: lot from Chris and we're going to seem more unfiltered Chris.

439
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: But the Most Dramatic Podcast has done a great job

440
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: opening up Chris to speaking his mind more openly. And

441
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 3: he said it in one of his first episodes. You know,

442
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: he's not unaware of the ratings drops of the show.

443
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: He's not unaware of the struggles of the show, of

444
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: the inner turmoils of the show. He's not unaware of

445
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 3: any of that. Right, he still has friends that work

446
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 3: in the franchise. He still has friends that work on

447
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: the show, and he can look up the numbers with

448
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: Google and he seemed to do that. It does feel like, yes,

449
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is like Chris's jab at Mike.

450
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't really seem like who Chris has ever been

451
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: where he wants to like jab somebody, you know, when

452
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: he doesn't have affiliation with him. But I guarantee you

453
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: there is some piece of him that's like, yeah, look,

454
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: look what happened when you get when when I'm gone,

455
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: Like everything's falling down, Like the franchise is going to

456
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: change forever, you know, hopefully for the better. We love

457
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: the franchise, we love watching the show. We're big fans

458
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: of the show. But this is a whole new season.

459
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: In chapter I don't want to understate just how different

460
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: the show is now going to be without Mike there.

461
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: It's the first time we've ever seen it in twenty years.

462
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: It has it's gonna be different.

463
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Speaker 2: Well, my guess is this, and again it's just assumptions

464
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: from this mysterious man who is kind of like the

465
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz in a lot of ways, the man

466
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: behind the curtain. I think that they're going to have

467
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: more room to experiment and they don't have to go

468
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: necessarily by a formula with him gone, well.

469
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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, I just don't know enough to know,

470
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Speaker 3: like what he was involved in the not and I

471
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: know this that's be investigation will open us up to Okay,

472
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: where was he putting his foot down? What was the

473
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: things he was for, and what were the things he

474
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Speaker 3: was against. We'll know more here very soon about the

475
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: inner workings of the Bachelor. But this is a very

476
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: interesting point for anybody listening. I was a lead on

477
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: this show. Ashley has been very involved in the show

478
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: and was on the show, and we don't know how

479
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: it works behind the scenes. I have no idea who

480
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: was making these decisions. I have no idea how things

481
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: were getting done. I have no idea who was the

482
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: gatekeeper to all big things that we were watching on television,

483
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: including editing, including leads, including casting. So we're going to

484
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 3: find that out soon. But for us to take a

485
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: stand right now and say, no, this is how it

486
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: was going down, we just don't know. And that's part

487
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: of the interesting part about being so involved in the

488
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: show is it really is like the Wizard of Oz.

489
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: It is a mystery once, Like behind those cameras. I

490
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 3: have no idea what was going on in the controller room.

491
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: I have no idea what was going on at the offices.

492
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: I have no idea these conversations.

493
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well let's take a break and we'll

494
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: get on to some fluffy headlines this week.

495
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Speaker 3: All right, first headline is this Oh my goodness, this guy.

496
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: I love him, dude, He's one of my best friends

497
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: in the world. I think he's great. He is uh,

498
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: he's one of a kind though, I mean, he just

499
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: makes you pull your hair out sometimes. Good for Kaitlin. Anyways,

500
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: Dean reveals he got Kaylin a third. Yes, a third.

501
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: We talked about the first. I don't know if we

502
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: ever even talked about the second. But now it's a

503
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: third engagement ring and they share wedding updates. Good good

504
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: that they have updates. I bet Dean was learning about

505
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: these updates while Kaylan spoke about him. But it's a

506
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: third engagement ring, Ashley oh Man.

507
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: And the funny ironic thing about all of this is

508
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: that Dean didn't even want her to have an engagement

509
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: you know. He was like, why can't you just wear

510
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: like a paper ring, or like a rubber band, or

511
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: just like a band. Wise to have this to be

512
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: this ideal rock for you. So what happened was he

513
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: got the ideal rock. Short story guides if you haven't followed,

514
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: He got the ideal rock. It was the rock, not

515
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: the actual ring. He was going to put the rock

516
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: on a ring. He put it into a napkin or

517
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: some sort and put it into the junk drawer in

518
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: the kitchen. Not surprisingly, it disappeared. It's been months and

519
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: months and they cannot find it. But he still wanted

520
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: to give her a proper proposal in Hawaii a couple

521
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: months ago, with an actual ring to put on her finger.

522
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 2: So he went to the jewelry store, got a quote

523
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: inexpensive ring and did it with that the plan the

524
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: entire time was for her to actually get a ring

525
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: that resembled the one that was lost, and what happened

526
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: in this case nice to be a part of Bachelor Nation.

527
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: A jewelry company reached out to him and they offered

528
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: to make her ring. So she now has a new ring,

529
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: but not on her finger yet, because he's gonna give

530
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: a her at some time a surprise, maybe in their

531
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: next trip in Hawaii. He said, sometime before the wedding,

532
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: he will put this new ring on her finger in

533
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: a special little moment.

534
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: Why does he keep making her wait for this stuff?

535
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: I've got to talk to him because.

536
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: It's the most dean thing ever.

537
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like continued, like, Okay, he lost the first

538
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: did you know, took her on a hike for the second,

539
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: But this third, Like, just give the girl the ring, Like,

540
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: let her wear a ring? Like why does he?

541
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: She doesn't need another moment, No mean.

542
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 3: To be engaged. She just wants to like enjoy this

543
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: season of life. But goodness, gracious, this is very This

544
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: is a very dean story. For anybody listening and wanting

545
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: to know Dean's personality and kind of his traits. This

546
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: is a very Dean moment, and I'm sure you can

547
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: listen to more of Dean and his hysterical antics when

548
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: it comes to being engaged on the podcast with Jared

549
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: and Dean.

550
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Their podcast Help We Suck At Being.

551
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: Newly Wise with Kaylen as well.

552
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: Now right, yeah, it's with iHeart. They have talked a

553
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: little bit more about their wedding this week. We'll put

554
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: it out there. She does have two dresses. Their wedding

555
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: venue is an Aspen and they're going they're leaning in

556
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: hard to that theme. They said it's kind of like

557
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Yellowstone vibes. And they got their invitation mock ups this week.

558
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: They said it's beautiful, but Diana is wondering why there's

559
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: a pair of cowboy boots on the invitation. He's never

560
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: wear worn cowboy boots and he doesn't think that Caitlin

561
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: wears them often.

562
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't. I just come on anyway, Speaking

563
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: of engagement rings, next headline is a good question. Get

564
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: a question this often. We've talked about it before, but

565
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: it's been maybe a year or two. What happens to

566
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: the Neil Laye engagement ring? After Bachelor Nation splits? Former

567
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Lee explain this, I would yea, I have experienced.

568
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: Myself, Ben ben h explain yours, did, Lauren? They just

569
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: come up to you to go, yeah, an to take

570
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: the red back.

571
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you get a weird text if you make it, though,

572
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: I think it's two years post show, then it's yours

573
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: to keep.

574
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is, two years supposed show. Or

575
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: you could like buy it from them. Yeah, it might

576
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: even be at a discount.

577
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I think it's so. I mean, I it needed to

578
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: be at a discount, it was more than my house.

579
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: But the Yeah, you get a weird text that says, hey,

580
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: please turn it in, and you do. And here's the question.

581
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: Where does it sit though? And I'm wondering if there's

582
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: like a drawer, like a graveyard with all these rings,

583
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: or if it goes back to Neielane. Some have argued

584
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: to me with me here recently. Honestly, people that would

585
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: be in the know that Neil takes them back and

586
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: repurposes them, takes the diamonds out and reuses them.

587
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: So what's your take on that, Like, are they cursed diamonds?

588
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: No? I mean I don't think that, but I'm sure

589
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: some do. You just would never know. I think it's

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: only cursed if you know it's cursed.

591
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: If it if it was on the finger of a

592
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: relationship that ended. Sure, it was the symbol of a

593
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: relationship that ended. Yeah, like it's not.

594
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Why don't you want to know? Though, Like if like

595
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: some legendary couple from Bachelor, like in your Big Bachelor friend,

596
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: like whoa this ring was once worn by But no,

597
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean I know people. I mean I know people

598
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: who have given rings from like a parent's divorce to

599
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: their fiance. Really, yeah, it works. It's a ring. So

600
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: some some believe in the curse of the diamonds, some don't.

601
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: But we do know if you keep it for two years,

602
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: it's yours insurance then transfers over to your name and

603
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: it's yours to keep and you can do with it

604
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: what you want. So some couples, if they're like on

605
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: the eighteenth month mark, like you know, I was getting

606
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: close to some would think, let's just not say anything

607
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: for six months. Some are like, no, we got to

608
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: say something like we gotta go on with our lives

609
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: and uh, and you you fall short of the two

610
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: months or two year timetable and it goes back to

611
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: the show. But some of these rings are really expensive.

612
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean I saw the other day there was a

613
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: stat that Bachelor Data did on the most expensive rings

614
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: from the show, and I think my like the one

615
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: from my season was the most expensive ever. It was

616
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: like two It was like.

617
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: It was peaking in size for sure.

618
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

619
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: So wait, can I pull us up, like I want

620
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: to see the Bachelor Data.

621
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know where it's at. It's going

622
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: to take a while to find it.

623
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: When you say a couple of days ago, do you

624
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: mean like a couple of months ago?

625
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: Days? Kind of good to go.

626
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's right here. Oh cool, So Katie's what

627
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: we just saw is three point one carrots? Okay, total carrots? Yeah,

628
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Lauren has the most. How she had the most carrots

629
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: a little over four carrots. Goodness, and then Whitney was

630
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: right behind her. So you guys were our little season

631
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: combo was the Heyday of rings because Whitney was just

632
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: at four carrots.

633
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: Oh well, I don't miss that ring at all. I

634
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: have I've not thought. I really have not thought about

635
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: it since.

636
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: So we're fine, all right, So let's continue with our headlines.

637
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: All right, Here we go. Claire Crawley, she buys a

638
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: new house with husband Ryan Dawkins. We're building our home together.

639
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: Here's what's wild to me, Ashley super excited for Claire.

640
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: It's like still weird for me to read Claire Crawley

641
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: and husband. It feels like it happened fast. It feels

642
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: like it happened out of nowhere. But it's such a

643
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: thing that you and I rooted for right for so long,

644
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: going back to COVID when she was announces the Bachelorette,

645
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 3: We're like, we want Claire Crawley to find love. We

646
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: do like it's a big deal. But now she's husband Ben.

647
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: I get so excited. I think about this often, like

648
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: I literally sitting on the couch and I'm just like,

649
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: Claire's married, Like it happened, and I'm so happy about it.

650
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: Claire kind not out of nowhere, but it happened like

651
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: without a lot of like lead up, right.

652
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well without a lot like uh woo around it,

653
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, like it was really just one of those

654
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: we love each other, we're old enough to know that

655
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: this is this is the right fit, and we're just

656
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: gonna do it without a lot of hoopla. Okay, fair enough,

657
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: all right, So this is what's going on with their

658
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: life right now. She's had the house in Sacramento. He's

659
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: had a house in Oakland, and they've been like kind

660
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: of splitting their time between them, but they don't have

661
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: a house together yet, and they just found what they

662
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: love so much. It'll be shared with them, of course,

663
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: and his daughters. They are not fully moved in yet

664
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: because they're doing redoing a lot of it. She says,

665
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: they have a ton to do. They came in and

666
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: checked on everything. She came to check on the grass

667
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: because she's obsessed with the grass. She says it's been

668
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: hard to find a house with such a beautiful yard

669
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: in lawn. She's super stoked about it. And while she

670
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: was there, she got on Instagram and shared that this

671
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: was a new house. She said that she loves the

672
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: fact that they have fruit trees like lemon trees and

673
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: lime trees and orange trees. That's really cool. And she

674
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: has so many more ideas for what she wants to

675
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: plant in there with time, and she's just been really

676
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: stoked to build a home together and make it exactly

677
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the way they want it. She said that she's going

678
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: to be hitting up Instagram a lot because she needs

679
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: help with you know, from all the followers on like

680
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: this for that, because it's the first time that she's

681
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: going to have to compromise in putting a together a

682
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: house with somebody else, because she's alway kind of done

683
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: it herself.

684
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: Well, next headline is this former bachelorette Trista Setter says

685
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: producers sold my clothes during filming. Now, this was said

686
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: Ashley on The Almost Famous OG's podcast, which is a

687
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: great podcast as well within our network. We're big fans

688
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: of it. We really think it adds something to the

689
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: flavor in the brand of the Almost Famous podcast. Sure

690
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: do I have some comments on this?

691
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: Okay? Please do? Do you want me to tell the

692
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: story for yeah, tell us the story for it first. Okay,

693
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: So Ben Flanne's on the podcast this week. He said

694
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: he got to keep his suits and she was like, wait,

695
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: you get to keep your suits and I didn't get

696
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: to keep any of my dresses. She said she had

697
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: a connection with Sacks. You know, it was basically like

698
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: an early like influencer brand deal. She's like, all wear

699
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: the dresses, you give me the dresses, we'll all promote it.

700
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Something like that. She said it was her own thing

701
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the producers. She goes into

702
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: her closet like halfway through the season, and she's like,

703
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: wear are my clothes? Where are my dresses? She's excited

704
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: to keep them, keep them, you know, and then they go, oh,

705
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: we've been selling them. And they're like, you've been selling them.

706
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: They've been selling them, and that's some like soap opera things,

707
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: she said, where they sell things in LA And she's like,

708
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: wait a second, this was these these are mine my clothes,

709
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: not your clothes, so she said. She Eventually she know

710
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: she got to keep a couple of nice formal dresses,

711
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: but she was pretty bummed.

712
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they must have sold them. So my comments

713
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: on this was I got to keep most of my clothes.

714
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: The only way I did those I wrote a letter

715
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: to wb uh if you remember. Really, I don't know

716
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: if I've shared this story or not, but I wrote

717
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: a letter pretty much saying, hey, uh, I'm going to

718
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: be your bachelor uh for the next year, right until

719
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: you announce somebody new. And I don't dress well, like

720
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: it's just not a part of me. And if you, Jared, yeah,

721
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: if you want to be looking like presentable in all

722
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: these appearances. Then the clothes that you have, you know,

723
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: tailored for me during my season of The Bachelor, then

724
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: I'll need to have and I'm and I then I

725
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: did a little stat line where it's like, Okay, this

726
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: is how many people are six foot four and my weight,

727
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: and this is how many people, uh in entertainment are

728
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: six foot four and my weight. And it's like nobody, right,

729
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: Like nobody's that tall and entertainment and those that are

730
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: are like usually really ripped and they play like giants

731
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: on shows.

732
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: So I was like, no, that's like Jace Momoa, Like

733
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Jace Momoa is not much taller than me, and he,

734
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: you know, he's a massive man when it comes to

735
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: everybody else in entertainment.

736
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: And so I so all of a sudden, one day,

737
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: I get like six boxes of clothes. I still wear

738
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: most of them, Like I still like my clause. I

739
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: still have boxes downstairs in our house that have never

740
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: been opened from the show because like they tailor everything

741
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: down to your simsuits and underwear, and so nobody else

742
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: is gonna wear that. And if they don't give you

743
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: the clothes for like Zac season, because they don't do

744
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: this anymore. After I wrote the letter. They pretty much quit,

745
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: like very like like strictly said, no leads are going

746
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: to do this anymore. We're not going to set this precedent.

747
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: It goes into the rental closet at like the studios,

748
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: and people can go and rent them for like costumes

749
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: and stuff anytime they want. But they just I bet,

750
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: I bet I have, Like I don't know how much

751
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: the suit's worth. It's the show about me, Like five

752
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: thousand dollars suits hanging on a rack for the last

753
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: seven years.

754
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: You're never gonna have to buy a suit again. Do

755
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: not gain or lose any weight, I know.

756
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the stressful part, right, I know exactly where

757
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: I stand, and I had lost so much weight during

758
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: my season that some of it does not look fit. Yeah,

759
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: but it's interesting they sold him. It feels like a

760
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: very bachelor thing to do and like a really like

761
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: interesting story where it's like, sorry, I didn't know, Yeah,

762
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know. We weren't supposed to sell them. I

763
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: didn't know they were actually yours.

764
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, ben One, that was so business avy

765
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 2: of you. I'm proud.

766
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

767
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: You looked up stats.

768
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the only way to make a good argument. Well,

769
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: and here's the sad part about my story is, you know,

770
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: I got to keep some of the watches from that season.

771
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: There's some nice watches. There was like three watches that

772
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: got to keep, and I had them in a in

773
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: a box with my grandfather's watches that he had given

774
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: me when he passed. And that's the box that got

775
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: stolen when my house got broken into in Denver. Everything

776
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: got taken. And so I don't have any of those things. Yeah,

777
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: this stink. So I don't have that, but I had

778
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: the clothes. I do have a Hugo Boss suit. I mean,

779
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: I still be looking good.

780
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: At Jared only wears his Armani suit that he got

781
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: from the date in the museum the helicopter. Yeah, he

782
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: was like the male Cinderella date basically, and it's the

783
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: only thing he wears. And we have a very formal occasion.

784
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: He looked good. Well. Sarah Herron tries out new prosthetic

785
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: arm can finally hold Dylan's hand.

786
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: She says, yeah, so sweet. So she decided to get

787
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: a prosthetic armed with the hand. She said that it's

788
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: just gonna, you know, make her life a little easier.

789
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: But She's got a lot of practice to do with it,

790
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: and they're still tweaking it so that it fits her

791
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: the best. She said, this is the most It's called

792
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: the CEO vv I hand and is the most advanced

793
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: of its kind for the intuitive default grip pattering. That's

794
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: pretty scientific sounding, but you know it's because it's able

795
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: to like grip like very naturally, and it's it's able

796
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: to input custom made gestures into the device. That's cool.

797
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: But basically she feels really nice that now when she's

798
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: in the passenger seat of the car, she can hold

799
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: Dylan's hand while they drive, and that's something she's wanted

800
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: to do it.

801
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: It's so cool. That's so great. Well, uh, hey, Ashley.

802
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: This week I was in South Indiana and I did

803
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: a speaking engagement at Notre Dame right and it went

804
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: really awesome. They were incredible, great turnout to the event.

805
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 3: But after the event, they said, Ben, what we really

806
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: want is to FaceTime one of three people, Ashley, I

807
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Ken Eddie, and I said, Ashley might be my go

808
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: to here, Like I was going to text you. I

809
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: didn't have any service, but I was going to be

810
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: texting and be like, hey, I need to FaceTime you

811
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: to make a hundred people happy. I've done that to

812
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: you before in a bar a.

813
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Couple of weeks ago, and it was so fun that.

814
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: She loved you. Yeah, I loved you, Caitlin Bristow or

815
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: Chris Harrison. But I was like, I think I could

816
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: get Ashley on the line. That's that feels safer. Well,

817
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: the next headline is about one of those three. It's wait,

818
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: I have any service? It was like in that Yeah,

819
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: I tried. I was going to and then I was like,

820
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't have any service. And that

821
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 3: was my excuse. I was like, see, can't do.

822
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: It like you're like, but Chris Harrison and Caitlin Bristol

823
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: are too big of celebrities, even if they are good

824
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: friends to just randomly call or I just like.

825
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: I don't talk to them enough. I get it to

826
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: like randomly FaceTime them with one hundred random people. I

827
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: talked to you enough where I'm like, hey, I'll do it.

828
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: See where Ashley's at. I bet she's like hanging out

829
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: all right. Kaitlin Bristol reveals ABC salary stuns Bachelor Nation

830
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: with this reveal.

831
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but she doesn't actually say what she got she

832
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: said that they haven't offered her. Okay, they offered her

833
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: to be the Bachelorette forty thousand, and she said that

834
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: you'd think at that at that dollar sign, she'd say, jackpot,

835
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: sign me up. Because she's very open about the fact

836
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: when she was on Chris Sol's the season of The Bachelor,

837
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: she had like zero dollars in her bank account. Yeah,

838
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: and so it was like tempting. But then she didn't

839
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: accept the offer because she was advised. But I think

840
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: her dad to hire an entertainment lawyer. Yes, with their stepdad,

841
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: and he changed a lot in the contract and negotiated

842
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: it big time for her. And then one of the

843
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: executive producers said, you got an entertainment lawyer and you're

844
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: asking for this amount of money. I'm sorry, Brice, and

845
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: I thought this show was about love for you, I mean,

846
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: and then she goes, basically, well, f off, it's about

847
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: love and money. Okay, they go hand in hand for

848
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: me right now, which is great and I'm so glad

849
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: she did this, but it has me wondering, just as

850
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: somebody who closely knows producers, which one said that.

851
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: All of them trust me. They all play this like

852
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: guilt game with you, like, you can't ask for more money?

853
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: This is about love. Don't you want to be here

854
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: for the right reasons. You would hate if the cast

855
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 3: would find out how much you're getting paid from this

856
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: season and think that you're not here for the right reason.

857
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh oh, friends say this.

858
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh they're all guilty of this. Many They also.

859
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: Don't want, like the lead to be making more money

860
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: than they are.

861
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Well, no, I don't think we were like trust me.

862
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Caitlin did our souls did our I I

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Speaker 3: did not hire an entertainment lawyer, and so as a result,

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Speaker 3: I was pretty much like, sign me up, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: The rumor in my land is that you guys are

866
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: basically told to tell them how much you made the

867
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Speaker 2: previous year at your normal job. Then they match it

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Speaker 2: is that true? Accurate? It's not on your Yeah, and

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: so you are like writing instruction manuals.

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00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: Making like nothing. Yeah. They you know you remember this

871
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: questionnaire When you actually go on to the Bachelor or Bachelor,

872
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: they do a big questionnaire with you about your life,

873
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: and you say, like, I think there's a question how

874
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: much do you make in your normal job or annually?

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00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 3: You don't know that it's actually been a negotiation prop

876
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: for later on when they're like star dang. But good

877
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: for Kaitlin. I think she's right. It is love and money.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody who is in their twenties or

879
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: thirties or forties that get asked to be on the

880
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: show or asked to be the lead should not then

881
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: and say, well, hey, I want to try to make

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00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: the most out of this, not only when it comes

883
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: to love, but financially for the future as well, because

884
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm leaving my job for this show and I don't

885
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: know what life looks like on the outside when I

886
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Speaker 3: go back. So I have no problem with some negotiation.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem though, or I guess here is a

888
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: little insight. They must have really wanted Caitlin, because typically

889
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: when somebody pulls this move and they negotiate and they

890
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: hire a lawyer and they ask for a lot more money,

891
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: the show will just move on like they'll say, Okay,

892
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 3: we'll find somebody else. But they must have really wanted Kaitlin.

893
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: And oh but.

894
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: That brings up another part that I totally forgot to mention.

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Speaker 2: She was, of course up against Brittan Nielsen, and they

896
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: said to her that she contracted that even if Britt

897
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: got the lead role, yeah, that she still was owed

898
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: the amount of money that they came up with, and

899
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: that is so smart. I mean that also made them

900
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: definitely towards the Kaitlyn's.

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00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, we got money wrapped up in Kaitlin. It's like, yeah, yeah,

902
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: It's like a contract negotiation in sports, like who's getting

903
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: paid more and are they going to get more playing

904
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: time or not?

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00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Well exactly, Ben, I have to ask you a headline

906
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: making question.

907
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: Okay, what's up.

908
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: Caitlin was offered forty thousand? Did you get less or

909
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: more than that amount?

910
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: More?

911
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

912
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: I got more, and.

913
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Speaker 2: You know that Caitlyn got more too than for obviously,

914
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean.

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00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: You got more than I did. Yeah. You know, when

916
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Speaker 3: you're in the lead circle, like you kind of call

917
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: some people and be like, hey, how much should I

918
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: be asking for? It's uh, forty was I think the

919
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: starting price that they asked. But I don't know that.

920
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: I mean for Caitlin. But I'm assuming yes, she got.

921
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Speaker 2: More and that the guys are offered more often.

922
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Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't have any clue the

923
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: like again, the behind the scenes of the Bachelor's a

924
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: mystery to many, and but I do know that, Yes,

925
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: every producer seems to know the strategy of wait, no

926
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Speaker 3: way you're asking for that much money, No way you're

927
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: asking for more. Like they the guilt, the guilt trip

928
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: is there. But I get it right. I mean, it's

929
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Speaker 3: their negotiation, it's yours. You're in negotiation with against each

930
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: other until you sign the contract, and then you're on

931
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: the same team. They play their game, you play yours,

932
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Speaker 3: and you see where it spits it out.

933
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Speaker 2: One last question. Okay, so rumored that Crystals made basically

934
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Speaker 2: more than any other bachelor because he was Nobody really

935
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: talked about it, but he was basically a millionaire and

936
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Speaker 2: his yearly salaries was pretty high. I think, so, do

937
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Speaker 2: you know that that he is one of the higher paid,

938
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Speaker 2: if not the highest paid, of all the bachelors.

939
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Speaker 3: I know he made more than I did. I know that, Yeah,

940
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Speaker 3: I would assume. So. I mean, I think you can

941
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: go back and read even past like headlines of where

942
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Speaker 3: like the Emily Maynards and those like obviously have been

943
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: on record to be some of the most paid leads,

944
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Speaker 3: and I think Chris is always up there. I mean,

945
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming the prince, like if he had his annual salary.

946
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that was pretty ridiculous, so he might have

947
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: made a lot. I don't know, but yeah, Chris did fine. Well. Actually,

948
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Speaker 3: that's all the headlines we have for you today. A

949
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Speaker 3: lot of headlines today, a lot of stuff going on

950
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Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation. We'll be back next week breaking it down.

951
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: Now here's my final thing. I have to do it

952
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: because I'm selfish. I leave tomorrow for Dallas, Texas to

953
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: play in the Invited Celebrity Classic Golf tournament alongside on

954
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: the tournament forty other celebrities, Imit Smith, Tony Romo, Pad Rodriguez.

955
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Speaker 3: It's going to be great. Albert Poohols, who actually get

956
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: to play with on Wednesday, very exciting. It's gonna be

957
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: on NBC. Check it out if you see the leader board,

958
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: just scroll down a bit. I'll be there hopefully above wells.

959
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: It's going to be a great time. But we will

960
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: be back here next week talking about it, sharing all

961
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Speaker 3: the stories.

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Speaker 2: So hey Ben, Hey Ben, Yeah, why aren't your best

963
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 2: friends with Tony Romo?

964
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

965
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: I think you play like in every golf tournament with him.

966
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: Oh well, you'll like.

967
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Speaker 2: Secretly be our best friends. We just haven't done we're

968
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: best friend. He's a fan.

969
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: We just haven't like announced it yet that we're best

970
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: but we're best friends. I have a good story about

971
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 3: Tony Romo and our friendship that I'll share next week

972
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Speaker 3: on the episode. How about that?

973
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Speaker 2: Is it a true story or just a cliffhanger that

974
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: you're making up?

975
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Speaker 3: It's very true, very very true.

976
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm excited, and I think you're gonna add another

977
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Speaker 2: story this week. So good luck. Ben. We're rooting for

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00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: you. You're an awesome golfer and we love you well.

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Speaker 3: I love you all until next time. Ashley, I've been Ben,

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00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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