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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Minkret

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Speaker 1: Garrett Downing, and we are fresh out of head coach

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Speaker 1: John Harball and general manager Eric Decasa's season ending press conference,

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Speaker 1: which they look back on what transpired in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four season and in the playoffs, as well as

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Speaker 1: look forward to the twenty twenty five off season and

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Speaker 1: start to kind of lay the foundation for what that

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Speaker 1: might look like. So we're going to give you our

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaways from the press conference, and Garrett'll start here first.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of okay, step back, big picture, how do

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Speaker 1: you evaluate the twenty twenty four season, And the Ravens

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Speaker 1: felt like in general manager Erics Costa felt like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this was a successful season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did. Mean Eric said that.

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Speaker 3: He said, I'm not going to sit up here and

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Speaker 3: act like it wasn't a successful season. They feel like

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Speaker 3: on the whole, there were a lot of good things

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Speaker 3: that the Ravens were able to do.

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Speaker 1: This. She got off to an zero and two start,

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Speaker 1: battled all the way back, won the AFC North for

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Speaker 1: a second straight year.

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Speaker 3: YEP, and then won a home playoff game, knocked your

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Speaker 3: rival out of the playoffs and then came really close

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Speaker 3: to winning the divisional round and being right back to

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Speaker 3: where you were a year ago. And so you have

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Speaker 3: a quarterback that may very well end up being the MVP,

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Speaker 3: a historic offense, a defense with a new defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: that struggled early, then righted the ship and played really

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Speaker 3: well at the end of the season. You got some

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Speaker 3: really good young pieces like your rookie class in Nate Wigans,

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Speaker 3: Roger Rosegarten. So like, there's a lot of things to like,

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Speaker 3: just big picture wise and looking at the season, and

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Speaker 3: I think as the Ravens assess it, like, yes, there's disappointment,

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Speaker 3: There is definitely disappointment and a costa mention that Hardball

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Speaker 3: mentioned that there's no question that this team felt like

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Speaker 3: they could be playing this weekend for an AFC championship,

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Speaker 3: and so they're disappointed by that. But when they're looking

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Speaker 3: at the season from a ten thousand foot view, they

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Speaker 3: also feel like it was a success and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of things to like.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that certainly the story, the narrative going

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Speaker 1: into the season was the Ravens are going to be

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Speaker 1: judged by whether they get over the hump and get

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. That's what we all talked about.

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Speaker 1: Can they get over the home can they? They've been

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Speaker 1: so close so many years, right, And like so I

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Speaker 1: understand that from a fan perspective, Well, you didn't get

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Speaker 1: over the hump, so how can you say it's a success, right?

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Speaker 1: But I think that's like too simplistic and naive, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the Ravens had the best team in the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, five days ago before the Ravens played in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: we all said the Ravens have the best team in

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Speaker 1: the league, led by the best quarterback, best offense, the

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Speaker 1: best defense. Since week eleven, they just knocked out the

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Speaker 1: Steelers your art travel, which that was really fun, you know,

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Speaker 1: like just because there's a fourth quarter fumble it dropped

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Speaker 1: two point conversion and you came up just you know,

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Speaker 1: you turn the ball over three times into visual game?

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Speaker 4: Does that mean all that other stuff? You just throw

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Speaker 4: that out?

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Speaker 1: Right? If you do that, you're really throwing the baby

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Speaker 1: out with the bathwater, you know. I mean, I agree

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Speaker 1: with Eric to coosin John Harball as much as maybe

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Speaker 1: fans might not like to hear, Hey, yeah, we measure

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Speaker 1: this as a success, even though because the measure drink

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Speaker 1: stick for a lot of fans and for Baltimore was

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Speaker 1: we got to get to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: You know, I agree with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that there's I think both

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Speaker 3: are kind of true. I do think that like the

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Speaker 3: ultimate measuring stick is winning a super Bowl. That is

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Speaker 3: like what you're you're judged on. That is what everyone's

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Speaker 3: setting out to do, and so like that is the

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Speaker 3: that's the goal, and like that's what the bet you say,

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Speaker 3: Like the Ravens had the best team in the league,

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Speaker 3: Like that's that someone else is obviously gonna win the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. The Chiefs had the number one seed in

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Speaker 1: So like it's fair to say that we came up

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Speaker 1: short of our goal, but we had a lot of

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Speaker 1: success along the way in doing that.

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Speaker 3: That's how the Ravens feel, And I think that's true.

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Speaker 3: Like there was a lot of there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: individual successes, and I think this team accomplished a lot.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not just gonna sit here and say this

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Speaker 3: team did nothing. This team accomplished all that.

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Speaker 4: Throw it all out. It's for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And especially when you're evaluating which this in this

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Speaker 4: How do we what do we do? Just set ourselves

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Speaker 1: Ye right, when you're looking ahead, you base those decisions

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Speaker 1: off of how much success did we have. If you

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Speaker 1: had a terrible year and you win two games, okay,

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Speaker 1: now you're going to change a lot. Obviously, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success. So thus I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're going to change a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they're from a holistic standpoint, they're

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Speaker 3: generally going to try to keep the core in place here.

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Speaker 3: And there were questions in this press conference about some

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Speaker 3: guys who there's question uncertainly about Mark Andrews being at

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Speaker 3: the top of that list, both from the standpoint of

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Speaker 3: obviously the season did not end the way that he

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Speaker 3: would have wanted individually for sure, And on that front,

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Speaker 3: Eric Constant John Harbat both spoke glowingly about who Mark

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Speaker 3: is and all that he's meant to this team, and

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Speaker 3: a Costa made it clear that they view him as a.

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Speaker 2: Huge part of our future.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, John said that and Eric echoed that sentiment, and.

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Speaker 1: Eric specifically said that all three of the tight ends,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews are all going

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Speaker 1: into the final year of their contracts. And while we

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Speaker 1: have tough decisions next year, not really any tough decisions

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Speaker 1: this year. They're all going in the final year and

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Speaker 1: I expect them to all, you know, still have the

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Speaker 1: best trio in the league on the field this year.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And and there was speculation about Mark will he

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Speaker 3: be back because he could save money by cutting him.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are clear that he's going to be back

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Speaker 2: on the scene.

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Speaker 4: Reportedly, you would save eleven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Right, and so, but the Ravens want them, Like you

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Speaker 3: can save money, but the Ravens want Mark Andrews on

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Speaker 3: the team, and he's a huge piece of the team.

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Speaker 3: So like you can save money, Sure, that's great, you

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Speaker 3: can save money by cutting a lot of players, but

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Speaker 3: moving off from Mark Andrews, you went out the waves

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Speaker 1: Being in the business of cutting good players is not

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Speaker 1: really a great business exactly, And it'd be a different

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Speaker 1: situation obviously, if the Ravens were twenty million dollars over

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Speaker 4: They're not.

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Speaker 1: Right Currently, they're projecting to have about seventeen million dollars

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Speaker 1: a cap space. So they're in a good place financially,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they've they've set themselves up well from

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Speaker 1: the contracts they've they've negotiated in past offseasons, and they've

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Speaker 1: drafted well, and so like they're in a good spot

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Speaker 1: need they feel like they need to shake things up

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Speaker 1: all that much. I think that they look at this

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Speaker 1: the most talented team in the best team in the league,

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Speaker 1: and we feel like if we don't beat ourselves, we

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Speaker 1: weren't gonna get beat this year. Unfortunately, they beat themselves

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Speaker 1: in the divisional playoff game. But I think that they

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Speaker 1: feel like, if we can keep as much of this together,

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Speaker 1: but if you can keep the core of this team

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Speaker 1: those things, we're going to be maybe the best team

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Speaker 1: in the league again next year and we'll give them

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the other big compleet piece of that conversation,

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Speaker 3: one of the big pieces is Marlon Humphrey and Erics

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Speaker 3: Cossa said that you know, we're really good to have

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Speaker 3: Marlo Humphrey on a contract again next year. So he

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Speaker 3: had a great year this year. In my mind, he

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Speaker 3: was the best player on defense this season. When you

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Speaker 3: again next year. Because Marlin talked after the game, He's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't have any more years guaranteed left

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Speaker 4: Marlin's always talking about that.

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Speaker 3: And Tacasa certainly indicated that he'll be back. Pat Ricard

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Speaker 3: he said at locker clean out he wants to retire

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Speaker 3: a Raven and Tacosta said they haven't had contract talks yet,

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Speaker 3: but certainly seem to indicate that they'll get something worked out.

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Speaker 3: That it's not a bunch of deals here. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like, we'll figure that thing out.

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Speaker 1: He's like, the agent's a good friend of mine. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we got it exactly. That thing will be worked out.

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Speaker 3: And then the other big the two other kind of

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Speaker 3: big free agents, one is Ronnie Stanley and indicated that

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Speaker 3: and Marlin. But Mark and Marlind are under contract for

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Speaker 3: have to work out a deal. But I think Ronnie

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Speaker 3: work financially, that he'll be back. Like my gut says

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Speaker 3: right now that Ronnie's going to be a Raven this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ronnie loves playing with Lamar, he loves playing

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Speaker 1: with blocking for Derrick Henry. He's become you know, he's

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Speaker 1: evolved in his career, not from not just a very

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Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens showed their loyalty to Ronnie Stanley.

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Speaker 1: You know, the guy suffered a major injury that sidelined

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Speaker 4: Knocked out for half a year.

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Speaker 1: He tried to come back the next year and he

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Speaker 1: that whole season. Then he had injury problems the following season,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, and that all started literally days

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Speaker 1: a couple day's after resign a mega contract. So the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, they they restructure his contract and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff this past offseason, but like there's a loyalty there,

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Speaker 1: and to Ronnie's credit, like, hey, he stepped up. It

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Speaker 1: like he can still play it at a high level. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, you know, started kind of phase one of

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Speaker 1: their offensive line rebuild that they talked about all last offseason.

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Speaker 4: Phase one went really well.

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Speaker 1: Roger Roseengarten, their rookie year they drafted at the end

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Speaker 1: Rookie team. Daniel foul Lele I think, stepped in and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Give mechanics shirty. I mean, they love Pat. Pat McCarey,

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Speaker 1: and return them for pick sixes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Like, so, I think getting another safety in here, a

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Speaker 1: free safety in particular, is a priority. Obviously the left

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Speaker 1: side of the line greatly, depending on what happens with

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley and Pat mcarey, that's going to be a priority.

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Speaker 1: And then a smaller one returner is going to be

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Speaker 1: a prior returner exactly and then cornerback, like we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Brandon Stevens, but even so,

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Speaker 1: I expect that they're going to draft one in the

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Speaker 1: earlier rounds.

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Speaker 3: And then the other really big potential change that exists

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Speaker 3: for the teams. On the coaching front, YEP and Tom

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Speaker 3: Monkin had interviewed. He interviewed with the Bears. They hired

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, He interviewed with Jacksonville. At this point, there's

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Speaker 3: reports of Jacksonville bringing in second interview candidates for in

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Speaker 3: person interviews. He has not been on the reported list

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Speaker 3: at this point. They're still as we're recording, some other

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Speaker 3: jobs that are still open and Monkin has not necessarily

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Speaker 3: been linked to those at this point looking positive. It's

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Speaker 3: looking like, of course the Ravens want him back. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, like John Harvill, I thought also

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Speaker 3: made a pretty good point about like Monk and is Monk.

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Speaker 3: He feels like Monk would be a great head coach.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to talk him up to much because you

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Speaker 3: want to keep him here. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: like if he gets an opportunity, you can't fault him

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Speaker 3: for that, and that would be great for him.

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Speaker 2: But like.

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Speaker 3: It seems like there's a decent chance that he ends

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Speaker 3: up coming back. But harboy, even kind of joke during

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Speaker 3: the press conference, like, to be honest, you guys in

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Speaker 3: here might have a better sense of that you're hearing.

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Speaker 3: Gotta what are you guys tweeting over there? You got

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Speaker 3: any news and info for me? So I think that

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Speaker 3: the Ravens are just waiting. They're waiting to see what

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Speaker 3: ends up happening there. And then there could also be

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Speaker 3: other candidates on the coaching staff who end up position

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Speaker 3: coaches who get draw interest for other like sure, so that.

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Speaker 1: Usually happens more when a coordinator leaves, and then you

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Speaker 1: know the rest of your staff can get poached or

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Speaker 1: follow them or something like that. So I don't anticipate

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Speaker 1: many changes on the Ravens staff, to be honest, especially

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Speaker 1: if Monkin stays. And I think that that would be huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: yeah for the Ravens offense if Todd Munkin remains their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for a third season. We've all seen the

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Speaker 1: strides they've made and the strides that Lamar Jackson has made,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that would only continue in year

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Speaker 1: three and really set this offense on a course to

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Speaker 1: be again, if not better than they even were this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, at the top of the league.

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Speaker 3: They the heights that they climb from year one of

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Speaker 3: Monk into year two were significant. This is a historic

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Speaker 3: offense and Lamar played the best season of his career.

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Speaker 3: And I keep thinking, like I even remember we sat

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Speaker 3: down with Harball before the season and he was like,

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Speaker 3: you won't want Lamar to get even better?

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Speaker 2: And I just asked him.

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Speaker 3: I was like, can Lamar get better? Like he just

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Speaker 3: want another MVP, Like are you do you actually think

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Speaker 3: he can get better? As I just what people say.

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Speaker 3: And He's like, oh, yeah, he can get better, and

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Speaker 3: he was right, and he was right. So like I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting here was thinking like can Lamar get any better?

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Speaker 3: Like he was about as good as you can get.

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Speaker 3: I think you learned my lesson last year. You can

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Speaker 3: just keep improving as we saw.

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Speaker 1: Yep, and he can get even better than he was

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Speaker 1: this year. And you know, I mean, I think I

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Speaker 1: think Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's the most talented also the most talented,

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Speaker 1: and I think the more football he sees even moving forward,

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Speaker 1: he's going to know what defense are doing even better,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so I, yeah, I think he can

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Speaker 1: get even better. I think that Todd Monkin is certainly

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Speaker 1: part of that. And he had creative schemes and good

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Speaker 1: wrinkles and you know all these things. And look if Todd,

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Speaker 1: if Todd leaves, like I think that he has helped

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Speaker 1: just like Greg Roman helped set a foundation for Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Todd Munkin has elevated Lamar Jackson. He's taken it to

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Speaker 1: the next level. And there's no going back for Lamar, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: he's already at that high level. So even if Todd

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Speaker 1: were to leave, I don't think like, oh, man, like

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen to our offense, and like we'd

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Speaker 1: be okay because Lamar because guess what we got number eight? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and then he's the North Star and he's he's going

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Speaker 1: to remain, you know, one of the best players in

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Speaker 1: the league. Absolutely, But if Todd stays, that helps it

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Speaker 1: even more.

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Speaker 3: And then the last point on the coaching conversation is

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Speaker 3: Dean Pece. The Ravens brought him in midway through the

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Speaker 3: season and he helped solidify things on that defense. Defensive

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Speaker 3: struggling first year under Zach Orr and he was a

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Speaker 3: good sounding board. John Harbal talked about how he was

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Speaker 3: kind of a link between the Ravens defensive old and

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Speaker 3: the current Ravens defense, and how he was a through

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Speaker 3: line and how he was just a really good asset.

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Speaker 2: And so the plan is for.

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Speaker 3: Him to remain on staff, but more in a consulting role,

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Speaker 3: part time role. At this stage of his career, in

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Speaker 3: his life, he's he's got grandkids and you know, all

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Speaker 3: over the country and all that. So it's like, I

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Speaker 3: think that for Dean, going into that consulting role fits

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Speaker 3: him better lifestyle wise, but he is still going to

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Speaker 3: remain a really important member of the staff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good move.

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Speaker 1: I think Dean obviously there are a lot of questions

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Speaker 1: when he was brought on, like, oh man, what does

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Speaker 1: this say and what does this mean? And all this

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Speaker 1: stuff like it helped, right, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: It helped.

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Speaker 1: And so Dean's a great coach, great very experienced, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that's a that's a good move.

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Speaker 3: All right. So we're gonna take a quick break. When

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Speaker 3: we come back, we'll dive into some of the other

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Speaker 3: big takeaways from today's presser. You're listening to the Lounge

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Speaker 3: podcast when we're coming to you from the Sea Geek studio.

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Speaker 3: So before we completely close the book on the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four twenty five season, there was a conversation about

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Speaker 3: the divisional game, of course, and one of the specific

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Speaker 3: questions that John Harbaugh got in today's press conference was

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Speaker 3: about the situation where it's first and goal from the

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Speaker 3: two the Ravens ended up having to settle for a

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Speaker 3: field goal. First play was a run with Derrick Henry

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Speaker 3: that got stuff from one. Second play was a pass

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Speaker 3: attempt to Ronnie Stanley, actually a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: trick play and Lamar got sacked. Third play was another

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Speaker 3: class play where Lamar was scrambling through it to Dereck Henry,

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Speaker 3: fell in complete in the middle of the field. Ravens

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Speaker 3: had to kick a.

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Speaker 2: Short field goal.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a huge, huge turning point of that game when

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Speaker 3: you look at the final score and they had a

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Speaker 3: chance to get seven, there end up getting three. So

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Speaker 3: John Harball was asked about that, and basically, you just

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Speaker 3: give them all to Derek Hennery. You're your first goal

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Speaker 3: from the two, give it to him four straight times

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Speaker 3: and see what.

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Speaker 2: Happens like that.

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Speaker 3: That's plenty of fans feel that way. And his point

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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you could do that, you could have

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Speaker 3: we could have done that, but they they were They

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Speaker 3: basically packed it in on that first play and got

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Speaker 3: the stop there, and then it didn't work on the

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Speaker 3: trick play to Ronnie Stanley. So if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 3: it's no good. But they were trying to trick them.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to run something there and catch them

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Speaker 3: off guard and thought they would be able to sneak

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Speaker 3: Ronnie out and get them there for an open completion,

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Speaker 3: and it didn't happen, and so it doesn't work. Would

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Speaker 3: have been epic, It would have been epic, but it

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Speaker 3: didn't work. And so basically, if it doesn't work, then

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Speaker 3: then you questioned it. That's basically the way the way

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Speaker 3: it goes. Yeah, I think that they asked themselves, and

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Speaker 3: Todd I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you make a decision that doesn't work, you second

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Speaker 1: guess yourself. That's for any of us in any any

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Speaker 1: line of work, right, Like you're just like, man, why

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Speaker 1: did I do that? You know? And John's point is

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Speaker 1: like you can run into the teeth of a run

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Speaker 1: blitz a lot, and you can, you're probably not Basically,

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Speaker 1: He's like you're not going to have much success. That's

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Speaker 1: what he ends the space. And so like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is there can you try to slip a tight end

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Speaker 1: through there or whatever? Go jumbo and slip whatever. There's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of different possibilities. Could the Ravens have done

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Speaker 1: something else?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Do they wish they had? Yeah, because guess what

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Speaker 4: didn't work?

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Speaker 1: So you know, like I think that's one of those things. Again,

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Speaker 1: like I said in our last podcast, the Rams didn't

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Speaker 1: pun all day. That was probably their biggest like offensive

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Speaker 1: obviously other than the turnovers, their biggest offensive.

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Speaker 4: Like what if?

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Speaker 1: Right, and like regret of the game if that you

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Speaker 1: got and in any game, you're gonna question some play

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Speaker 1: calls every single game across the NFL, and uh, overall,

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Speaker 1: they didn't pump once. I just can't fault the game

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Speaker 1: plan and I can't fault the play calling all that much.

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Speaker 1: Sure in that scenario, Okay, that's fair, good question.

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Speaker 3: He actually once thing I thought it was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: He made the point like, rather than just running at

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Speaker 3: four straight times, he would have maybe like to see

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Speaker 3: a pass on first down to catch them off guard

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Speaker 3: there when they're loading up the box there and selling

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Speaker 3: out to stop the run. Because the Bills thought basically,

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Speaker 3: the Bills thought the same thing that plenty of other

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Speaker 3: people thought, which is, all right, they're just gonna run

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Speaker 3: it with Dereck Henry here, and that's what they did

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Speaker 3: on first sound they got nowhere.

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Speaker 1: What's frustrating is that the Ravens had the best redizdone

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Speaker 1: offense in the league, you know, and they'd run it

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Speaker 1: in plenty of times with Derrick Henry and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then even going beyond that to the again another

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Speaker 1: play from the two to the two point conversion, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't run the ball, and the Ravens did not

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Speaker 1: have a lot of success this year in two point conversions.

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Speaker 1: So it's another one of these things, just like the turnovers,

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Speaker 1: like ah Lamar Jackson only threw four perceptions all season

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Speaker 1: and then he throws one in the divisional game.

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Speaker 4: You know, he turns the ball over twice. Gosh, he

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Speaker 4: was so good at protecting the ball. What happened? Same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, man, you're so good in the red zone

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Speaker 1: all year long and then these two huge scenarios.

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Speaker 4: You don't get it in. Uh huh, just as the frustration.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so, like one of the net we mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: like narratives, and the narrative of this season was can

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Speaker 3: the Ravens get over the hump? Can Lamar Jackson get

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Speaker 3: to a super Bowl? Like That's what is being discussed

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Speaker 3: on First Take right now. And so they were asked

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Speaker 3: about that, like this this narrative of Lamar getting to

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl and this team getting over the hump,

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Speaker 3: and Eric Tacosta said, point blank, there's no player I'd

656
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: rather have on my team than Lamar Jackson. I think

657
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: he's the best quarterback in football. That's the way the

658
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: Ravens are looking at it. And I think that it's

659
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: hard to disagree with what he's saying there, Like, Lamar

660
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: was awesome this year, and obviously, like we said, it's

661
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: so disappointing that they weren't able to get to that point.

662
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: But it's just not a reflection on Lamar.

663
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: It's just not you know, it's just you know, but

664
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: it's a tired narrative that's stuck in the rut of

665
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, twenty eighteen, when he didn't

666
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: play particularly well in that Chargers game. You know, you

667
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: look at even at twenty nineteen, like they they came

668
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: roaring back in the second half. He made some plays

669
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: in that game, you know, the pick six in Buffalo,

670
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, that really hurt a few years ago. But

671
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: like generally speaking, Lamar's played pretty well. The turnovers are

672
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: the thing. He's turned the ball over right, and that matters, right, obviously,

673
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: those are big. So like Lamar knows that he's kicking

674
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: himself over the turnovers and he's sick about that and

675
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: certainly took himself to task in the season ending press conference.

676
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: But again, I'll take Lamar Jackson ten times out of ten.

677
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: So that's a tired kind of narrative. Like the same

678
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: case that you talk about with Mark Andrews and the

679
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: fumbles applies to Lamar Jackson. If it hadn't been for

680
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson this season, obviously he's gonna probably win his

681
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: third MVP. He just a news broke today that he's

682
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: the PFWA per Football Ragers Association. He's their MVP for

683
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: the season, so he's probably gonna win a third MVP.

684
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: If it weren't for Lamar Jackson, the Ravens wasn't even

685
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: be in this position at all. Yeah, of course obviously

686
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the MVP, and so sorry, I'm just not

687
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: like and based on the way he played in the

688
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: second half of that game.

689
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 4: I ain't putting it on Lamar. It's a tired narrative.

690
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: And so basically Eric Costa dropped the hammer on that

691
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: one and said get that, get that out of here.

692
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

693
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: The other point on this game, just in terms of

694
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: going he actually didn't play in this game is day Flowers,

695
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: So say doesn't play in this game. Zay talked at

696
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: Locker clean Out on my just basically about the knee

697
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: injury and how he would have had a chance, and

698
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: John Harmer reiterated that indicated that this is all this

699
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: is Almo a salt in the womb, but indicated had

700
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: the Ravens won, there was a really good chance that

701
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: he would have been able to play in the AFC Championship.

702
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: He went through a workout last week, went through a

703
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: workout on the field before the game they were really

704
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: optimistic and hopeful that he would have been able to

705
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: get back for the AFC Championship, So really tough. And

706
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: then he also made the point that the plan is

707
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: basically for the knee to heal, but there is still

708
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: a chance that they have to do some sort of surgery.

709
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Didn't get into specific.

710
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: We might it sounded like it would be a very

711
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: minor kind of scope thing if they really wanted to

712
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: go in and just say, all right, we're just gonna

713
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: make sure correct it, just take care of it. So

714
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: we know it's on an issue, but he said it unlikely. Yeah,

715
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: that it doesn't look like he's going to have that now,

716
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't completely rule it out.

717
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So hopefully that Zay just basically given a few

718
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: more weeks and he's good to go and does not

719
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: seem like that's any kind of long term concern at all.

720
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

721
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Either way, Yeah, either at heels or surgery twenty twenty five,

722
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine to play the NAFC Championship games.

723
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: So right, all right, A couple other quick points here

724
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: to round things out. This is the first year this

725
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: offseason is the first year that both Kyle Hamilton and

726
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: Tyler Linnerbaum are eligible for contract extensions. That would be

727
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 3: early because the Ravens have both of them, well, they

728
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: can have both of them under contract for two more

729
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: seasons because they had the fifth year option where they

730
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: were not asked specifically about the fifth year option today.

731
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: But I would expect either they're going to work out

732
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: an extension after they're four after or during this next season.

733
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: I guess it would be basically they have to make

734
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: the picture of their fifth year extension and then it's

735
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: a matter of whether they get an extension done or

736
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: they play on that fifth year option.

737
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: That's basically what it's going to bloil down to.

738
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: And again, they could do it before the season, but

739
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: that would be early.

740
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen after their

741
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: third year. I mean, yeah, they're eligible, but they're not

742
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks he did guys that get yeah, or or you're

743
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, which he hasn't gotten either, but he's been

744
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: asking for it. Yeah, you know, like either you're like

745
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: a top five wide receiver or a quarterback. Centers that

746
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: usually don't get uh out. Both those guys that think

747
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: are going to get paid.

748
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I actually think that I have a

749
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: little bit more. I feel more that they could get

750
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: one of those done.

751
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: It sounds like thing you do because Da Costa said

752
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: were going to work on those, and he also brought

753
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: up the point that he made back when he was

754
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: first hiders GM that we wanted to get deals done.

755
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: Early, not late. And so I think that there's a

756
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: chance that maybe one.

757
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, maybe I think that they're you would

758
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: still be getting it done early if you got it

759
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: done in this fourth year and he's and you've already

760
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: decided to pick up a fiftyear option, which is which

761
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: is a no brainer.

762
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is early early, Yes.

763
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: This would this would be very early, So it would be.

764
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen very often, but both of those guys

765
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: are players that you feel like are going to be

766
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: cornerstones here. So it's going to get done eventually. They're

767
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: worried about that getting done eventually, but it'll be. It

768
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: would be very early if it happened this summer.

769
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: They're part of.

770
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: The Next offseason is going to be a lot spicier

771
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: than this one. Yeah, many more difficult decisions, including like

772
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: we've just said, at tight end, all three guys are.

773
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Going to be trying to do the twenty twenty six

774
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: off season.

775
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just just quickly here. All three tight ends

776
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: are going to be free agents. You're gonna have Tyler

777
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: and Obaum and Kyle Hamilton. You'll pick up their fifth

778
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: year options, but can you get an extension done beforehand?

779
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: You're gonna have Aoa.

780
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: He's gonna be playing on a fifth year option next

781
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: year unless the Ravens were to get an extension done

782
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: with him this offseason.

783
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, they'll have more tough conference.

784
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a lot, You're gonna have Yeah.

785
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: And then the last big kind of contract thing is

786
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: is John Harball is reportedly going into the last year

787
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: of his contract, and he was asked about that, and

788
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 3: he didn't get into any specifics of the contract talks

789
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: or where those stand or any He kept it v

790
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: generic on that front. But the one thing that he

791
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: was very clear about is that he wants to be here.

792
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: He's committed to being here. The Ravens have wanted him here.

793
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: He's happy, he's happy, he's good, and so like he's

794
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: gonna be here, and and that we're on a mission together. Yes, yeah,

795
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: they're like when I look up and I'm watching that

796
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: press conference, and I'm looking at Harbor, and I'm looking

797
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: at a cost so like they're unified and unified front

798
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: and attacking the thing and and building this roster and

799
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: approaching it during the season during the off season like

800
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: and I think that, just as a side note, like

801
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: that is kind of rare in the NFL to have

802
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: a GM and a head coach like Arm and Arm

803
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: aligned in like the way that they're attacking things. And

804
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: a lot of times you have like gms and head

805
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: coaches that are on the same page and all that stuff.

806
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: And I do think that, like we've been spoiled here,

807
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: to be honest, for a long time at just the

808
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: way that Harbaugh and Ozzie we were aligned in that

809
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: and the way that's continued with Eric and John and

810
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: they're they work great together and and I think the

811
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: results speak for themselves. And that's why, that's why, that's

812
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: part of the reason why the Ravens are in the

813
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: in the thick of it every single year they're in the.

814
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: Day and and the big part of the reason the

815
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: stability in this organization.

816
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: And the way that they are there again unified in

817
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: their approach. I think is is huge.

818
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think that anytime that your team

819
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: falls short of hopes or expectations, that you know, the

820
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: the first things think can be like.

821
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: We gotta change, man, we gotta change.

822
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and change can feel good in the immediate,

823
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: but it often does not. Look around in the NFL,

824
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: it often does not produce a good result, and the

825
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: teams that keep changing keep losing. And so you know,

826
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: it's a be careful what you wish for kind of situation.

827
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, by and large, I think

828
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: Ravens fans appreciate the stability that they've had around here,

829
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: and they should and so I think we're pretty darn lucky.

830
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: A couple a couple more notes for me really quick.

831
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: You know, there was mid season all the stuff that

832
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: went down with Marcus Williams getting benched, Eddie Jackson being

833
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: benched and released, Deontay Johnson, the trade that didn't work out,

834
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: and then he ultimately gets released, and that was a

835
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: big storyline in the middle of this year, and you know,

836
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: one of the adversities the Ravens had to overcome. John

837
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: Harbell and Eric Decasta talked about all three of those

838
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: scenarios with Marcus. They said, look, he just didn't he

839
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a good season.

840
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: He wasn't performing up to par, and we had to

841
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: make a change.

842
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: And John Harball gave credit to Marcus for how he

843
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: handled that change, which is tough for a guy who

844
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: was one of the top paid safeties.

845
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: In the league to just get benched. Yeah, it's not easy.

846
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: And he credited him as a man, you know, for

847
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: the way he handled that and keeping a positive attitude,

848
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: and thus that's why he remained on the team. And

849
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: then Eddie Jackson, you know, was Eric Decassa is a

850
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: kind of pointed the finger at himself for why that

851
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: one didn't work out and said, look, I thought that

852
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: he was He's a good player who was going to

853
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: add to our depth. But Eddie was not happy about

854
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: not being a starter and did not want to be

855
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: a backup safety slash special teams player. He was not

856
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: happy with his role and that's why it didn't work out.

857
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: And Eric said kind of sometimes that he can overlook

858
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: the human aspect of of a move because of the

859
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: that it's a bargain or it makes sense from a

860
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: strategic standpoint and a salary cap standpoint and all those things.

861
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: You check all those boxes, but from like, is this

862
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: player gonna be happy with his role? That one that

863
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: box was not checked and it ended up being Wyatie

864
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: Jackson didn't work out here.

865
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: And then with Deontay Johnson, the Ravens traded for him

866
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: midway through the season with Carolina, and Dakasa.

867
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: Said that they knew there was like risk in that case.

868
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: They knew you might not be happy with this role because.

869
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: He had been traded. He'd already been traded by the Steelers,

870
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: and then he was in Carolina and there were reports

871
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Speaker 3: that he was, you know, not always the happiest Carolina nothing,

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Speaker 3: And so it was essentially they wanted to strengthen that position,

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Speaker 3: give themselves some more depth there, and they brought It

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Speaker 3: was a low risk move where they didn't give up

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Speaker 3: much of a talented player. Yeah, high upside, low risk,

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Speaker 3: and it didn't work out and the Ravens moved on

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Speaker 3: from him obviously. Then he went on to Houston and

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00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: he got cup by Houston. So that's basically what happened there.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And then lastly for me, and maybe the most important

881
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Speaker 1: development from the press conference was that there was a

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Speaker 1: cricket infestation and the Hard Knocks trailers apparently here on site,

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Speaker 1: and an accusation made by John Harwall seemingly that this

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Speaker 1: was a planted cricket infestation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, if anybody who has listened to the podcast for

887
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Speaker 3: a long time, you know how much of a prankster

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Speaker 3: Erics Costa is. And we haven't actually heard about his

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Speaker 3: pranks in a little while here. It's been kind of

890
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Speaker 3: quiet on the prank front lately. And I as soon

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Speaker 3: as they started talking about this cricket infestation, it was

892
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Speaker 3: obvious who the clb we had. At one point there

893
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Speaker 3: was a beeping going off in our boss, Michelle Andre's

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Speaker 3: office and couldn't figure out where I was, and up

895
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Speaker 3: in the ceiling panel somewhere there was some device. This

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Speaker 3: was years ago, but some device that was beeping NonStop.

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Speaker 3: It was driving her crazy for like weeks. So I

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Speaker 3: think that it may have been a the little culprit

899
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Speaker 3: here with this situation.

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Speaker 1: Well, basically, the Ravens are like, if we have to

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Speaker 1: put up with Hard Knocks being in our space all

902
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Speaker 1: the time, which we don't want to have to put

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Speaker 1: up with, we're gonna pester them.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have a little fun.

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Speaker 3: John Harbot did make the point because he was asked

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Speaker 3: about hard Knocks and he did say like he admite it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't too excited when we when we found out

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Speaker 3: we were getting it.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants hard knocks, but no coach wants hard But.

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Speaker 3: When it was all said and done, felt like it

911
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Speaker 3: was an accurate portrayal and a positive portrayal of the

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Speaker 3: team and the way that the Ravens operate and it

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Speaker 3: showed that. And so he felt like after looking at

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Speaker 3: it and seeing the way they operated and the way

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Speaker 3: they conducted themselves and the way that the final out,

916
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Speaker 3: the final product on TV, actually ended up feeling pretty

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Speaker 3: good about it. Yeah, which is credit to our guy

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Speaker 3: Tim Roffe hard knocks, Right. We had Tim mallon the

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Speaker 3: podcast when they started this thing, So credit to Tim

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Speaker 3: and the whole crew.

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Speaker 4: Tim's taking some crickets back in New Jersey crickets with

922
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Speaker 4: him moved on to his car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, thank you for listening. Those are our biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the press conference. You can listen to the

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Speaker 1: entire thing on Raven's press pass, so go ahead and

926
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Speaker 1: check that out if you want to hear it straight

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Speaker 1: from the horses Mouths.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: As always, you can read us at the lounge at

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Speaker 1: Ravenst NFL dot nem