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Speaker 2: The World's a Vegetal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Someone clipped off the part anyway of Evan's recommendation of power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although a lot of people don't some people people

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Speaker 2: don't know ball. They don't think that you're genuine. They

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Speaker 2: can't believe like you didn't mention Mesh.

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Speaker 3: I think Drake may had a good rookie year, good

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Speaker 3: good rookie year.

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Speaker 2: You look at him as a son.

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Speaker 3: Evan does this on like he goes right onto the

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Speaker 2: When he was doing it during the game. Yeah, next

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Speaker 2: to the game. I see him with his little thing.

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Speaker 3: Like like, what are you doing over there?

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Speaker 4: Evan?

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Speaker 3: This game do an exercise that I did with Mac

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Speaker 3: Jones and great.

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Speaker 2: I would never make you do no, no, no, not once

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Speaker 2: did Evan mentioned Pinpool yesterday. Moment was too big for

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Speaker 2: the young man.

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Speaker 4: See another one that you know, not ball Mill, that's

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Speaker 4: not that's not basic install.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's not basic install.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at the Less Stadium.

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Speaker 2: They're still basking in the glow of the Mike Rabel

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Speaker 2: higher and uh, Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Matt

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Speaker 2: the booth. But I guess our show was on the

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Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 6: Briefly they were like, that was pretty cool, Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what he knows.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: It's the world's original.

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Speaker 3: But the reason they focused on Rabel and not.

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Speaker 2: Us, Yeah, I can't believe it, Hug. You know it

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Speaker 2: took a brand new head coach being hired for us

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Speaker 2: to make it to the big time. But no, it

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Speaker 2: was cool to see have.

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Speaker 3: Been made fun of on the McAfee show in the past.

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Speaker 6: That's right for some of us.

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Speaker 3: That would be me. I think he made fun of

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Speaker 3: my accident. Oh yeah, yeah, when was this during the

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Speaker 3: summer preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have really that much of an accident.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's there, but anyway, and I think it

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Speaker 3: went to buy I was inundated.

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Speaker 2: That was fun and thanks to one of our listeners

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Speaker 6: I know, Yeah I went and found it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: A little bit, but yeah, good stuff. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: was a big day on Monday. We talked a lot

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Speaker 2: about Tuesday, and we're going to continue talking about what's next.

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Speaker 2: Offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, what's going on. Like right now,

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Speaker 2: all we know is Mike Rabel's the head coach.

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Speaker 6: I kind of like it, Like I like that he's

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Speaker 6: just kind of gone into the cave. We don't run

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Speaker 2: Because the Senior Bowl and Shrine Bowl is the end

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Speaker 2: After, so you got to send people there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm hoping that the head coach will

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Speaker 2: You think you think he should be there?

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to make a big deal out of

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Speaker 3: See what you did there.

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Speaker 2: So you know, my impression of those All Star games

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Speaker 2: But I heard him with the shrine. They're bringing in

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Speaker 2: Is okay coaching search for other teams. I guess Aaron

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Speaker 3: And a lot of Ben Johnson to the Raiders talk

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's coming from Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad situation, but you can't

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Speaker 3: But even go like recently Tyree Wilson. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 3: I just think it'd be it'd be great for you know,

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Speaker 3: That's just poor to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just already being hired.

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Speaker 2: Well, people want it's news. It's it's you know, clicks.

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Speaker 2: That's different. That's different. I can't that's not an apple.

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Speaker 3: there's some urgency there because you know Philly still playing

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Speaker 2: Back a little bit? I am a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean his record is good. I just don't

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Speaker 4: bear yeah and be like this is what we're gonna do,

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Speaker 6: I mean, do you think that's unique to because of

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Speaker 4: Because they've interviewed him and Pete Carroll? So it seems

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Speaker 2: well and Cowboys Cowboys interesting? Yeah, Pete Carroll, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Caroll, Mike McCarthy stuff like, I mean, I think Evans

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Speaker 4: Excite me at all.

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Speaker 6: Like he's gonna be here. He's how old is he now?

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Speaker 3: He's another one of those like old school West Coast

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he is an old school West Coast guy.

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Speaker 4: seventy five year old head coach. Like, I don't see where.

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Speaker 2: He's a young, seventy five young he's got.

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Speaker 4: A lot of energy, got a lot of energy.

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Speaker 3: Choose that guy.

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Speaker 3: Right, you guys have been to these games, right, No,

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Speaker 2: Look, it's it's a networking.

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Speaker 2: Do a lot of unemployed coaches go.

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Speaker 6: We're just me and never were planning out. Some of

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Speaker 2: You know, we say, well, are you surprised that McCarthy

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Speaker 6: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: You just need somebody to land the plane right, and

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Speaker 6: if they're maybe kind of coordinator proof at this point,

441
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Speaker 6: but at least on the defensive side of the ball,

442
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Speaker 6: they've been, uh, personnel proof a little bit, and I think,

443
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Speaker 6: you know, that's what every team is hoping for just

444
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Speaker 6: that we can withstand the inevitable change that happens with

445
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Speaker 6: coaching and personnel, and we have an identity that and

446
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Speaker 6: granted a lot of that is based on the quarterback,

447
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Speaker 6: but but still, I think, you know, defensively, they showed

448
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Speaker 6: this year that they've been able to with stand some

449
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Speaker 6: of the turnover with guys who have really defined who

450
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Speaker 6: their defense has been the last okay, five six years.

451
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Speaker 2: We will have picks today. We'll be doing the round.

452
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Speaker 2: Should we also picked the National championship game?

453
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Speaker 3: I think unprepared? Okay, I got the spread for that

454
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Speaker 3: one too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do that.

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Speaker 6: That's the whole I watched the whole Ohio State game

457
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Speaker 6: last I telling the guys like, I haven't watched a

458
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Speaker 6: full college football game in a long time, but that

459
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Speaker 6: Ohio State game I was. I was in the whole way.

460
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Speaker 6: It was really fun, really fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: So, all right, what do you think of Mike Evan

462
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Speaker 3: I stayed up to like eleven, I've always all growns up.

463
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Speaker 3: He watched a college.

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Speaker 4: Couple, couple edgreshers in that game for you, Mike.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know, yeah, yeah, he is. I mean obviously

466
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Speaker 6: ended the game, and I mean, what a story with

467
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Speaker 6: you know, being the former you know, Aller's former roommate

468
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Speaker 6: and all that. But I still go back to what

469
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Speaker 6: I think of college football, which is just so.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty cool, fast and loose and.

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Speaker 6: Unpredictable, and that's I'm interested to see Bill coach in

472
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Speaker 6: that environment where mistakes, penalties like the things he hates

473
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Speaker 6: that I feel like he tries to life and jamp

474
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Speaker 6: out are such a big part of all these games

475
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Speaker 6: where it's just big plays and a penalty, and you know,

476
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Speaker 6: it's just it's all over the place.

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Speaker 2: The crazy you know, he'll bench the full running back

478
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Speaker 2: for fumbling and the boosted Like Bill, we're paying him

479
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Speaker 2: five million dollars a year. Money he's got to play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you knew this, dude, but Jack

481
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Speaker 4: Sawyer grew up an Ohio State Buckeyes fan.

482
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Speaker 2: And that's a big story right right down the street.

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Speaker 3: That's where I sort of go and like a lot

484
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Speaker 3: of these guys that play college football love the school

485
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Speaker 3: they're playing for. I don't need to know, but I

486
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Speaker 3: just think it was kind of kind of cool that

487
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Speaker 3: yours in Sya were roommates and they sort of bust

488
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Speaker 3: each other balls after the game, and I was wondering.

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Speaker 4: Fans that not like that.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to exactly what I was

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Speaker 3: going to say. Would that bug you if you were

492
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Speaker 3: a Texas fan that you know, like the game's over

493
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Speaker 3: and he's like not laughing about it. I mean, it

494
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Speaker 3: was devastated, but you know sort of recognize that it's

495
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Speaker 3: my friend that that did that. Like, so is that real?

496
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Speaker 3: Like Texas fans.

497
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Speaker 4: Were like, oh yeah, well, I mean yours is not good,

498
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Speaker 4: and I like, I'm probably gonna pret this in like

499
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Speaker 4: a two years when he's he's not good and he's.

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Speaker 3: A good college guy, not an NFL coach quarterback in

501
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Speaker 3: my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're watching the tape of that game and I'm like,

503
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Speaker 4: arch Manning could wasn't better than this.

504
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Speaker 3: Like my brother and I had a long talk about that.

505
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Speaker 4: Find it hard to believe, but in college you pay

506
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Speaker 4: your dues and you wait your turn, and that's how

507
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Speaker 4: a lot of those schools work. And uh with sarkisian

508
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Speaker 4: but I just yeah, I don't know, I don't really

509
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Speaker 4: care about when I think.

510
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Speaker 3: That Sark really showed a lot of loyalty to yours,

511
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Speaker 3: and you know, and in that sport in particular college football,

512
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Speaker 3: but college athletics in general, you don't see that either way.

513
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Speaker 3: You don't see the players have the loyalty to the program,

514
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Speaker 3: or you don't see the coaches have the loyalty to

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Speaker 3: the players.

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Speaker 2: So it was.

517
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Speaker 3: Refreshing to see that. But you wonder if he cost

518
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Speaker 3: himself there, because if arch Manning played the whole year.

519
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Speaker 3: He played a couple of games, you know when youers

520
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Speaker 3: got hurt. If he played the whole year, how much

521
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Speaker 3: better might the offense have been?

522
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Speaker 6: What is he a retort sophomore?

523
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Speaker 9: Now?

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is yeah, he'll be his years, he'll have

525
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Speaker 3: his third year coming up.

526
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Speaker 2: He'll be the starter next year.

527
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well, like the leader, he can he's not

528
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Speaker 4: like he can run. So they do have a package

529
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Speaker 4: in there for him to run the ball a little

530
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Speaker 4: bit on some zone reads and things like that. And

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Speaker 4: yours is a statue.

532
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Speaker 2: So it's funny, you know, Eli and Peyton with such

533
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Speaker 2: pocket passers, and yet Archie was the ultimate scramble.

534
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Speaker 3: He's much more like he like his grandfather.

535
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Speaker 4: Yeah, respect that's interesting, Yeah, much more like that. But

536
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: he's he's a talented kid. You can tell just you know,

537
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Speaker 4: obviously he's very fundamentally sound and all that kind of

538
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: stuff because he's been coached by quarterbacks his whole life.

539
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Speaker 3: So the fact that he's willing to stay there for

540
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Speaker 3: two years too, you know, without playing. Yeah, I mean

541
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Speaker 3: he played a little this year, but obviously not being

542
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Speaker 3: the starter.

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Speaker 6: I just think like for somebody like me, who's totally

544
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Speaker 6: the casual of casual college football fans, I was invested,

545
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Speaker 6: Like I'm invested in this playoff. I'm interested. These are

546
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Speaker 6: good teams.

547
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Speaker 3: You get in.

548
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Speaker 6: It's not like you have two games to watch them

549
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Speaker 6: when they had the semi final. Now you get to

550
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 6: watch a few games with these guys.

551
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Speaker 2: And I think that means something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like we start to become a little bit more

553
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Speaker 6: familiar with the players, and I've started to see, you know,

554
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Speaker 6: a thing I've always hated is like, well, he's an

555
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Speaker 6: Ohio State middle linebacker. I mean, that's the thing, right,

556
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Speaker 6: But you start to see why people kind of connect

557
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Speaker 6: all those players.

558
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Speaker 4: Like I always try to.

559
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Speaker 6: Look at guys individually and like, well, it's a big deal,

560
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Speaker 6: he's an Ohio State middle linebacker. But you start to

561
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Speaker 6: see that those guys and I'm just using that as

562
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Speaker 6: an example, but you know, you start to see the

563
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Speaker 6: traits that always kind of carry over, like they always

564
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: seem kind of like the same guys a lot. And

565
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Speaker 6: you know, I hadn't something I didn't appreciate as much

566
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Speaker 6: when I didn't watch a lot of college football. But

567
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Speaker 6: the more you see it where you know, even with

568
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Speaker 6: abdual Carter as eleven, you're like, yeah, he's kind of

569
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Speaker 6: Michael Parsons a little bit. You know, you start to

570
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Speaker 6: draw still.

571
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Speaker 3: Can't and I watch more college football than you do,

572
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: probably not anywhere near as much as your boy Barth does.

573
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Speaker 6: Nobody nobody, that's impossible.

574
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Speaker 3: But I like, I'll just watch games and I'll be like, oh,

575
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,239
Speaker 3: you know, that guy has had a pretty good game,

576
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: and then you know, forty eight hours later, I have

577
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: no idea who that guy was, you know what I mean.

578
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily watch it like that. I just

579
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: watched the teams and you know, the big names obviously,

580
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: but you know, like Jack Sawyer is he's a good player,

581
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: but now like he made those plays and you sort

582
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Speaker 3: of stand out in the playoffs and like, okay, now

583
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Speaker 3: I remember this guy, Jack Sawyer. He plays. You know,

584
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: he's an edge guy. You know, plays for Ohio State.

585
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Speaker 3: Didn't do it again, right, Whereas I watched Ohio State

586
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Speaker 3: probably four times this year. I don't remember Jack Sawyer.

587
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Speaker 2: You know.

588
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he made plays and all the games that

589
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Speaker 3: I watched. But I just think the playoffs are offered

590
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a different and I think a

591
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Speaker 3: lot of people watch, like me, just to watch the game,

592
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: not necessarily like identifying this.

593
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Speaker 2: Guy, this guy, this Comcast I have that have that

594
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Speaker 2: Sea button, So you hit the Sea button on Saturday,

595
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Speaker 2: and it's got all the lists of the games, and

596
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Speaker 2: you go down the list and you see, oh, this

597
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: is a close game, so then you go into that game.

598
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Speaker 2: That's how I do it.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's why I think Barth provides a service when

600
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 6: he watches some of these games and he'll tweet out

601
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Speaker 6: lists of draft guys.

602
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not interested in that at all, and

603
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Speaker 3: I'm not This is nothing against no ahead. I just

604
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: want to watch the games. I don't want to watch

605
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Speaker 3: the games with the thought of, oh they might I'm

606
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Speaker 3: not a scout.

607
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Speaker 2: That's not what I do.

608
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Speaker 3: That's I don't pretend to be one. And it's I'm

609
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Speaker 3: not really interested in being one. I just want to

610
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Speaker 3: watch the game, like that Scataboo kid. I loved watching play, right,

611
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Speaker 3: not because I think he's going to do anything in

612
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Speaker 3: the NFL. Opposite, like I like watching him play. Even

613
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Speaker 3: though I did, he wasn't necessarily my You know this,

614
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Speaker 3: he's dead to me. He's a try hard, unbelievable.

615
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Speaker 2: Why don't you like it?

616
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Speaker 3: Because he's he's kind of a dick. I mean, he's

617
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Speaker 3: always he's always yelling at. He's a heart definite like

618
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: he's not my kind of guy. Like, I mean, he

619
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Speaker 3: basically just carried.

620
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Speaker 2: He didn't like that because he'd be the guy yelling

621
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Speaker 2: at Paul.

622
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Speaker 3: Come on, Paul, first of all, to suggest that I

623
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Speaker 3: was alignment, I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.

624
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Speaker 2: No, it would be like, get us sit down the

625
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: huddle quicker. Okay, now I could helpen All right, Let's

626
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Speaker 2: get to some of the emails and phone calls. Podcasts

627
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Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com is the email address. The tpx

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Speaker 2: houtline is eight five to five pass five hundred. We'll

629
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Speaker 2: start with podcasts at Patriots dot com. This is from

630
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Speaker 2: Chris in the UK and it's unclassified NATO communications. So

631
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Speaker 2: this guy is important, Wow, he says, catching up on

632
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Speaker 2: a podcast from a few weeks ago December twenty sixth,

633
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: you had a call or mentioned that the league is

634
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Speaker 2: rubbish today. One of the justifications for this, put forward

635
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Speaker 2: by you was that too many teams are either uncompetitive

636
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Speaker 2: or overly on, suggesting that there's a lack of depth

637
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Speaker 2: in the talent pool. I remember that conversation, the disparity.

638
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Speaker 2: I would argue that the depth of talent is not

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Speaker 2: really an issue, but more about how the talent available

640
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Speaker 2: is spread throughout the league. Hypothetically, an ideal spread of

641
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: talent would see any team capable of beating another and

642
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Speaker 2: everyone ending the season within one win over under a

643
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Speaker 2: five hundred record. If you take that as the perfect situation,

644
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Speaker 2: A realistic goal would surely be a season with all

645
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Speaker 2: teams somewhere between point twenty five and point seventy five

646
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Speaker 2: in the final standings. And then he attaches the table

647
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Speaker 2: to show how that would look, which I'm not going

648
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Speaker 2: to get into.

649
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Speaker 3: That would be an absolute night.

650
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Speaker 2: Yes, taking this metric, the best season in the last

651
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Speaker 2: twenty three years were two thousand and two, two thousand

652
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Speaker 2: and three, ten and eighteen. The worst season in terms

653
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Speaker 2: of competitive across the board was twenty four, followed by

654
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Speaker 2: twenty two. In fact, with the exception of twenty eleven,

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Speaker 2: four of the worst seasons in the last twenty three

656
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Speaker 2: years have been in the last six So the caller

657
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Speaker 2: did have a point. The competitives across the league is

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Speaker 2: currently poor in terms of distribution of talent.

659
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Speaker 6: It's a very at I would just break it down why.

660
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: I just want to see it.

661
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: But I'd like to see a competitive wildcard weekend that

662
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 6: that's the when.

663
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: Was the last time you did? And adding playoff teams

664
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: is not helping you?

665
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: They correct, But here's here's the one factor I would

666
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: say is more important in football than any other sport,

667
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: and when it terms competitiveness, it's coaching. There's also a

668
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: lack of good coaching across the board.

669
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, and I would say

670
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: that that's all accurate in terms of the competitive and

671
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: the non competitive and all that stuff. I just don't

672
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: think it's because of talent, right, I just I think

673
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot. I think there's plenty of talent, you know,

674
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 3: spread out around the league. I think there's a lot

675
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: of really good players on really bad teams. You know

676
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: a lot. Now some of the really bad teams have

677
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: also you know, like I always use Carolina as an example.

678
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: They recently just decided we're going to get rid of

679
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: every good player we have because we just we're starting over.

680
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: And you know, Brian Burns went and Christian McCaffrey went,

681
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: and you know, like they just decided we're going to

682
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: strip it to the studs and they're going to start over.

683
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: Some teams are like that. Other teams are not bad

684
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: because of that. Like the Jets certainly aren't bad because

685
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: of that. You know, that's a team that's tried and failed.

686
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: So is talent a problem? Is the Jets have five

687
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: wins because of no talent?

688
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, I would say that quarterback talent's a problem.

689
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: No, No, I get that, But they haven't been good.

690
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: But it's not because of a lack of talent. They're

691
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: missing other things. And I think your point is much

692
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: more valid than talent coaching.

693
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: You need good coaching.

694
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right for it.

695
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: That's what I like about the NFL is that, and

696
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 6: football in general, is that it's always kind of a

697
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: chemistry experiment, and there's you know, and there's always you know,

698
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: like it's like cook, you know, there's quite and it's

699
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 6: not salt in this one. And you know there's little

700
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 6: elements that maybe don't even jump out to you initially,

701
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 6: but talent, coaching, depths and avoidance of injuries.

702
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: And then even when when when teams do have success

703
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: with a talented team, that doesn't always mean they're going

704
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: to have sustained success because you have Cincinnati.

705
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, why you know, why is Cincinnati not in the playoffs?

706
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: I would say, Fred again, coaching and my curse.

707
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: This is true, but you know, you have individuals with

708
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: their own personalities, you have success, and then you have entitlement,

709
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: and now people aren't thinking about the team first. They're

710
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: thinking about themselves first, and they're you know, so it's

711
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: a very that's what makes football so great. There's so

712
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: many layers to it. Uh and and all of these

713
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: make it tough to have sustained success, which makes the

714
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: dynasty is so much more impressive because they did it

715
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: over for twenty years.

716
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't that's a different argument, and you're right,

717
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: but the whole talent, like, there are some bad teams

718
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: that are you know, they're bad because they don't have

719
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, the Patriots are one of them.

720
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like.

721
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: They don't have a ton of talent. I don't think

722
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Tennessee right now is you know, brimming with talent. I

723
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: think that's the reason why they're picking first overall. And

724
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: certainly Caroline is not a very talented team, you know

725
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: at the moment. But there are some teams that because

726
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: we won the last damn game, should be better. There

727
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: are some teams that should be better than they are.

728
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: And I think Fred's point about coaching, I think there

729
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: are more good quarterbacks. I say this all the time.

730
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: There are more good quarterbacks in the league than there

731
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: are good coaches.

732
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: And they're not being developed right maybe or coached right,

733
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: or the offense isn't being coached right. Coaching is critical

734
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: in football.

735
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of coaches, especially on the

736
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: offenssee side of the ball, with quarterbacks that are getting

737
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: these newer age quarterbacks like a Drake May like a

738
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, and they don't one hundred percent know what

739
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: to do with them because they're not the prototypical quarterback

740
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: that they grew up with and the systems that they

741
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: grew up with don't really apply to these types of

742
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that are coming out today. And I think a

743
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: lot of these coaches are a little bit lost into

744
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: terms of what kind of scheme and what kind of

745
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 4: situation they're supposed to put these guys in. And then

746
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: you see like Jaden Daniels gets Cliff Kingsbury, who has

747
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: a background in college football, who has a background and

748
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: the air raid and that type of offense, and all

749
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he has his great rookie year. So

750
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: I wonder how much you know of that is going on,

751
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: and if there's maybe gonna be a little bit more

752
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: of a trickle up from the college game, you know,

753
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: into the NFL to try to to try to adapt

754
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: the scheme because it's just going to keep happening. Like

755
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks in college are running rpo offenses, they're running

756
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: all these different spread schemes and air raids and things

757
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: like that. That's not going away, Like they're not going

758
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: to all of a sudden go back to putting the

759
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: quarterback under center for half the game and things like that.

760
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: So these NFL teams have to adapt, They have to

761
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: find ways for their coaching to adapt. So whether that's

762
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: hiring coordinators from college or just teaching the coordinators in

763
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: the NFL. Some of the college flavor guy like Joe

764
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: Brady is succeeding because he spent time in college. Liam

765
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: Cohene is succeeding because he spent time in college, and

766
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 4: so like, whether it's that route or it's just teaching

767
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: those guys, they got to do a better job with

768
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: some of these young quarterbacks.

769
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Kylin Pembroke writes in with the Discussion, When the discussion

770
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: of wide receivers comes up, Paul likes to point out

771
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: that he replaced Amaro Douglas, which I think, with respect

772
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: to Paul, is stupid. He's undoubtedly our most athletic, explosive

773
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: receiver and a solid weapon out of the slot. It

774
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: would be smarter to add on to him by getting

775
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: a solid X and Z receiver that can complement his skills.

776
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: And added benefit is we don't get rid of homegrown talent,

777
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: something that's been a problem that's led to this awful roster.

778
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: And before he asks in a snarky tone, yes, Douglas

779
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: is talented enough to keep around and to be considered

780
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: a homegrown talent. Yeah, Paul, your response.

781
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: Well, My first thing is what homegrown talent? If they

782
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: let go that you regret Myers, I'm not.

783
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: I keep calling Leonard Myers, Jacoby.

784
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: Myers, Myers is Myers.

785
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm sorry. I'd rather have Myers than I

786
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: would too, But I.

787
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: Think you're in the same spot if you have Myers

788
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: and I like Myers. But okay, so give you give

789
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: me some Yeah, absolutely, yes, yes, Jacoby Myers.

790
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: Joe Toney homegrown talent.

791
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Right, So now we get two.

792
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: Not even an argument that was absolutely yes.

793
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 3: I mean I would not have paid him the money

794
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: that Kansas City pays him. But that's that's me.

795
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but that's what it costs. They

796
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't have franchised him to begin with. They should have

797
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: just extended him at the time.

798
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, but you were extending him with Kansas City is

799
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: paying him.

800
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: Maybe, Okay, So two, two, we're inching up, we're inching up.

801
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: We're gonna get three.

802
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: I think maybe maybe I'm missing my mind's eye doesn't

803
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: really remember, like all of these fish, big fish that

804
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 3: got away. But maybe I'm wrong.

805
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: That's two.

806
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Ye Okay, Now I would say everything he said about

807
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: to Mario Douglas. I would agree with he's their best,

808
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: most explosive player out of the slot. Absolutely, wouldn't argue

809
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: one thing. My goal is to get a better player

810
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: than that, so he's more explosive out of the slot

811
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: than the other teams that have that player. That's my goal.

812
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: We're looking at it.

813
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Goal isn't to have the Patriots best. My goal is

814
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: to have one that would be considered one of the

815
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: best in the league.

816
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: But my eye tests with Pop. I think he can

817
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: be a contributor. He's not a number one or a

818
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: number two, but I think he is dynamic.

819
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: Get the contributor him the ball.

820
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: You don't think he's dynamic, No, Why because.

821
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he makes a lot of big plays

822
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: that to me is dynamic.

823
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at opportunity versus the big place.

824
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: Maybe it's offensive related. I'm willing to say that in

825
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: a better sort of coordinated scheme, he could be more dynamic.

826
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: You know, Like I love Jakobe Myers, I don't think

827
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: he's dynamic either.

828
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's not that explosive guy, but

829
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: he's a dependable guy. Yeah, who will produce and God, this.

830
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 3: Team knows that what I want. What I would want

831
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: is in addition to his X and Z, which I

832
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: don't care about. I don't care if they're good players,

833
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't care where they play. I want better talent

834
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: like all the guys that they've had have. You know,

835
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: Kendrick Boone had an eight hundred yard season a couple

836
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: of years ago. You know Kayshaun Boody showed flashes of

837
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: being that's great. They've all demonstrated a monicum of ability.

838
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: I think you can to use a college term over

839
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: recruit these guys. I think you can get better, more

840
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: talented options across the board for all of these positions

841
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: X Y Z being bananas, slot, I don't care. I

842
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: think you can get better players than what you have.

843
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that Pop Douglas is one of

844
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: those players where you say, Okay, we're set no slot

845
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: and if we really like a Mecca Abuka from Ohio State,

846
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: who's a pure slot guy, if we really like Abuka,

847
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: we can't draft Abuka because we have Pop Douglas, which

848
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: I think was a factor with lad mcconkee, because they

849
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: I do too, and that's my point, right, and so

850
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: you can't do that with pop Douglas. Now, is he

851
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 4: a nice complimentary piece to have in the offense? Yeah,

852
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: I think he is, sure, because he's, you know guy.

853
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: That is a little bit of a difference. I'm okay

854
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: with that.

855
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: If I have T.

856
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: Higgins and you know, a Brown, Let's let's say McMillen.

857
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: Okay, let's say T.

858
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: Higgins and McMillan, and now I knock him down. So

859
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: he's like just like another option, and he becomes you

860
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: can do it, you can do it. He just becomes

861
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: another like, hey, you know what, every in a while

862
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: they throw the ball to to Mario Douglas and he

863
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: comes up with a big play for you, you know,

864
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: like Curtis Samuel did in the Buffalo Again. Yeah, I

865
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: also wonder you know what I mean, Like Curtis Samuel

866
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: is not going to catch eighty passes for Buffalo, but

867
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: every once in a while he makes a play. I

868
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: think to Mario Douglas has ability. Yea, So please don't

869
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: say that I think that he stinks. I don't think

870
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: he stinks.

871
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: Well, what happens if you have a guy on the

872
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: outside that has a real presence to him, like at

873
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: T Higgins where now the middle of the field is

874
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: a little bit more open for those types of guys,

875
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: because obviously that's what everybody's sitting on now is throws

876
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: into the middle of the field to the tight ends

877
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: into the slot, so ten yards. So if you're able

878
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: to kind of open it up a little bit with

879
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: people on the outside. I'm not saying he's going to

880
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: be a fifteen hundred yard receiver, but it definitely makes

881
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: his job a little bit easier for sure.

882
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: I would say for me if sorry, dude, I was

883
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: just gonna say, like, I think that Evan's point about

884
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Lad McConkie is exactly where my mindset is. And I

885
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: think that I don't have anybody that's ever told me this,

886
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: but I think that that's true. I think that they

887
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: weren't necessarily looking at McConkie because they felt like they

888
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: had that guy in to Mario Douglas. And I think

889
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: that's not really a close comparison Jackson Smith and Jigba,

890
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: I don't they built They they're slot receivers, they played

891
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: the same spot. They're not the same guys. And when

892
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: you say, like dynamic that, to me, there's a.

893
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Different Cocky's more like Cooper Cup, you know, a little

894
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: bit bigger.

895
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: Cup was dynamic. He's thirty one now, no, no, I

896
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: mean Cooper Cup had two thousand yards one year. To

897
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: say he's Cooper Cup is ridiculous.

898
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: It is more like him perversatile, like he's not just

899
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: a side.

900
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 6: Well, I think there's it's unique to with Pop this year.

902
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: And I think Sophie talked to Pop and I think

903
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 6: she just posted something which shout out Sophie.

904
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: But he said thanks.

905
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: Credit to Alex van Pell because he wasn't a big

906
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: slot guy. He's usually a two tight end guy, and

907
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 6: he really, you know, focused on trying to get more

908
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: opportunities for Pop Douglas as a slot, which is.

909
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: Why I said, if they had a different coordinated offense.

910
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 6: Right, so maybe and that might be part of it too.

911
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 6: When they got to the draft, they're like, well, the

912
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 6: slot's not really going to be a big part if

913
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: they did think that that Lab McConkey was a slot.

914
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 6: But I would say if someone like Josh were to

915
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 6: come here and you need a dog and a high

916
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: volume slot guy, I don't think Pop Douglas is that guy.

917
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: He's made the second guy. He's more like a Danny

918
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 6: Ammondola Yeah, but I also and I just I have

919
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 6: trust issues with Pop Douglas. I have trust issues if

920
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 6: he is going to be locked in for one hundred

921
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: percent of the snaps and in the big moments, is

922
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: he going to be ready to make those people.

923
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: I like the email though, it's a good email provoking email.

924
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree with that point, Mike, like, especially

925
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: again zone coverage, Like he still doesn't have a great

926
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: feel for when to sit and when to find those

927
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 4: saft spots in zone coverage. And if you're going to

928
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: be a guy that's going to get targeted a hundred

929
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: times out of the slot, then that's going to be

930
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: a big part of your job is finding those little

931
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: And you think about.

932
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 6: How intense Wes Welker and Julian Edelman were and the

933
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 6: guys in Josh's offense that made things go and walked

934
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 6: in and third and ten in the Super Bowl, and

935
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: Julian Edelman is going to take a huge hit and

936
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 6: hang on to it. That's the kind of guy one

937
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 6: night that's like I.

938
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: Look at those and I'm spoiled. I'm spoiled, rotten because

939
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: I had that guy for the better part of twenty

940
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: years with Troy Brown, Wes Welker, and Julian Edelman. I

941
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: don't see any similarities really at all between Jamario Douglas

942
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: and those three guys.

943
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: Uh junior from Minneapolis. This may seem strange, but I'm

944
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: a little worried how focused Rabel seems to be about

945
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: fixing the offensive line.

946
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: That'll be the old guy say they were INCREDI will love.

947
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: Him, but you're worried that but he wants to fix the.

948
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: Off He's worried about how focused he is on fixing

949
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: the offensive line.

950
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: Have you watched the Patriots offense? Did you listen to

951
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: the show?

952
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: Wait? Can you?

953
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry because I was Yeah, yeah, we had. We

954
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: had a little side conversation.

955
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: But you need to stop doing that.

956
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: And we do that too, odd son, that was that

957
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: was my fault. I took responsibility, was mine.

958
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get with Strepo's name out there.

959
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll reset. This may seem a little strange, but

960
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried how focused Rabel seems to be

961
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: about fixing the offensive line this offseason. I understand how

962
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: bad we were last off last season, but there's still

963
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: a lot of resources and you'th invested in this old line.

964
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: We have a third round right tackle, a nineteen million

965
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: dollar right guard, a first round left guard, a veteran

966
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: court center, and two fourth round offensive guards who have

967
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: shown potential at times. I know we need to get

968
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: a left tackle this offseason, but besides that, can we

969
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: really afford to ignore the other holes on the roster.

970
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Considering the lack of high end offensive line talent in

971
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: the draft and free agency, I'm worried Vrabel might spend

972
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: premium assets on mediocre O line talent and pass on

973
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: high end talent on other premium positions. Looking at the

974
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: bigger picture, the best move might be to address other

975
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: positions with premium assets this offseason, see how Robinson, Wallace

976
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: and Strange develop, and then address the O line in

977
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: full next offseason when you have more information and possibly

978
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: a better draft and free agent class. No, what do

979
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: you think?

980
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 8: No?

981
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 6: No, I mean, did you watch last season?

982
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: Would you?

983
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 8: I know?

984
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: But do you overdraft because of that? I?

985
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 6: I mean I try not to. And I think that's

986
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 6: a great question as to will Campbell at you know,

987
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: fourth overall, But I just think this has to be

988
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 6: I look, and I agree with some of the points

989
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 6: he made. You got to get over where guys were

990
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: drafted like they got here, they're now Patriots. It doesn't

991
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 6: matter that you have a first round left guard or

992
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 6: center who can't cold strangers here and his sample size

993
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 6: speaks for itself. I think you have to you have

994
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 6: to make at least a couple moves, and you've got

995
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 6: you've got the you've got the resources to do it.

996
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 6: But you know to say, yeah, let's let's see how

997
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 6: it works out in your two of this group.

998
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't want a couple moves. He's talking about

999
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: premium assets. Is there a difference in your mind?

1000
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think that what Rabel needs to do

1001
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 6: is he needs to get it right. And you know

1002
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean go overspend for a guy that you

1003
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 6: think or may or may not you have. That's their problem.

1004
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 6: Go figure it out, be creative, find.

1005
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: A way to get so good. At least. What I'm

1006
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: getting at is, do you throw away taking the best

1007
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: players available because you need offensive line help.

1008
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

1009
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 6: I mean I would take out that card.

1010
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: I think that's what he's saying. I don't think that's

1011
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: what he's saying. I think he thinks they're in a

1012
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: lot better shape than they are number one, number two?

1013
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: Why is it automatically if he's he's too focused on

1014
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: the offensive line, he's not going to address anything else,

1015
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: Like I think he's making a connection there. Like so

1016
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: in other words, it sounds like if they take an

1017
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: offensive lineman with the first round pick, that's.

1018
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: A fail and unless that guy is the best player

1019
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: event And I.

1020
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: Don't know, like I don't know exactly what they're going

1021
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: to do. I don't know if they're going to pick four.

1022
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they move down and they get and then they

1023
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: get more picked and they get an offensive lineman there.

1024
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: But just some of the things that he said, Mike

1025
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: already addressed. They have a former first round guard who

1026
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: has not established any level of consistency as a pro.

1027
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: Huge questions we got laughed at for taking.

1028
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: He talks about the guys that they took last year

1029
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: that showed promise at times. Exactly when was that they

1030
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: had the worst offensive line from week one to week eight?

1031
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: Do you read any of these media people, Paul are going.

1032
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: To tell you that they flashed I mean, Robinson, I'm

1033
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: talking to the people that do this for a living,

1034
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: and they didn't really seem to see that Kayden Wallace

1035
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: missed most of the year.

1036
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 4: Kaden Wallace is obviously a mystery box because he didn't play.

1037
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: So I'll say that if you want to say he's

1038
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: a mystery box, then sure. Leyden Robinson to me, has

1039
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 4: not proven anything. I don't think he's proven any.

1040
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 3: City So was inactive in week eighteen, like when everybody

1041
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: was getting the varsity letter, he was inactive.

1042
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: The coaching staff definitely did not like City, so this

1043
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: past coaching staff obviously did not care for City So.

1044
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 4: But I mean, look, we've read off the stats about

1045
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: the offensive line all season long. They're the worst offensive

1046
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 4: line in the league across the board, no matter who

1047
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: you ask, whether it's you know, win rate, PFF, grade,

1048
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: eye test, whatever, like, they were the worst offensive line

1049
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: in football. And it's starting to like go up my

1050
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: backside a little bit, just a little bit about how

1051
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: this draft has no offensive line talent. Like it's that's

1052
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: starting to really bug me. Like the Texas just went

1053
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 4: to the college football quarterfinal with a left tackle that

1054
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: is going to be a top ten pick. And so

1055
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: if you yeah, semi final, thank you. So, Like, if

1056
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: you keep on saying to me that there's no talent

1057
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 4: on the offensive line at the top of the draft.

1058
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 4: I am going to continuously disagree with you, Like Calvin

1059
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Banks is a legitimate tackle prospect. Will Campbell if he

1060
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: measures out at the combine is a legitimate tackle prospect

1061
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 4: like every other year, like Olufushanu on down, Like, no,

1062
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: they're not Joe Alt and I get that, But Joel

1063
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: is a unicorn. Like Joealt was a elite blue chip prospect,

1064
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: and those guys don't come around every single day. These

1065
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: tackle prospects at the top of the draft this year

1066
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: are fine. They are perfectly fine top ten picks, and

1067
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: they will go in the top ten.

1068
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: And I'm not arguing if he is suggesting, you know,

1069
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: stay true to your board, pick the best player, I

1070
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: have no argument with that. I just think worrying that

1071
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: he's focused too much on what is clearly the worst

1072
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: part of the off the the roster. Hey, I don't

1073
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: really know why what is making him think that. I mean,

1074
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: I know he talked about the offensive line, he talked

1075
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: about a lot of things.

1076
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: I didn't get the sense he was overly talking about it.

1077
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: And I think he's connecting dots. I think the emailer

1078
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: is connecting dots, saying he's focused on the offensive line

1079
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: and therefore is not going to look to get wide

1080
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: receivers or edge rushers or whatever else that they need.

1081
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: The biggest need is offensive line. That's hard coming from me.

1082
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: I always just tell you you can get offensive linemen. Well,

1083
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: they took my theory and blew it up last year.

1084
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: They didn't even try. They did not even try to

1085
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: get an offensive line, and look what happened.

1086
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 6: And I don't even believe you have to make Kid

1087
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 6: Wallace and Laden Robinson walk the plank already like I'm

1088
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 6: fine with it.

1089
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm coming back to they go in thinking that you

1090
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: have starting cal players with either one of those two guys.

1091
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: That's why I'd listened to I wouldn't really want to

1092
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: overspend on another guard when you're already playing on when

1093
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: you but I would seriously look at and this is

1094
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: a terrible example, but the nick levertz of the well,

1095
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 3: you know someone who's played a little bit, that has

1096
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: some experience that you can at least say, if we're

1097
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: in a pickle, someone like this can play left guard.

1098
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: If leydon I think that's the bare minimum of getting him.

1099
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: When company he.

1100
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: Talks about the interior of the pocket.

1101
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: Though.

1102
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: You know, I think you feel good about on when

1103
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: you and you hope that Andrews is gonna is gonna

1104
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: come back and be okay. That that I also think

1105
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: is a wild card that Andrews is gonna be perfectly fine. Yeah,

1106
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: so then you're you're looking at strange Ben Brown maybe

1107
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: on a you know, coming back on a tender. Like

1108
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: those guys are your centers right now. If David Andrews

1109
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: isn't okay. Tray Smith is an intriguing player to me because,

1110
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: yes he plays guard. Yes you're gonna have to pay

1111
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: a lot of money for him. But if you want

1112
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: to go best player available in free agency, you know,

1113
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 4: instead of overpaying Cam Robinson to play left tackle and

1114
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: saying we solved left tackle after you give up twelve

1115
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: pressures against the Rams the other night, you know, a

1116
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 4: guy like Trey Smith is a Pro Bowl caliber guard.

1117
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: It's funny after that game the the night we haven't

1118
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of Cam Robins because he was dreadful.

1119
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: That was big on the Cam Robinson.

1120
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 6: You know, I think the free agent is the Rams

1121
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 6: Jackson Aleric Jackson. He plays, I think he's gonna hit

1122
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 6: I think he's due to hit free agency too, and

1123
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 6: that's maybe another younger option to to conither.

1124
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if they could get me, I wouldn't be

1125
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: looking to break the bank on Cam Robinson for sure,

1126
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be opposed to a veteran placeholder and

1127
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: drafting somebody. And then you know, you sort of you know,

1128
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: you fill it with multiple spots.

1129
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, like even if you can't get multiple guys the

1130
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 6: plug and play rookie left tackle, I don't.

1131
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: Know, which is hard. That's hard to do.

1132
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 6: But at least if you get one that you feel

1133
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 6: like has some potential in his played left tackle before

1134
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 6: and has some athleticism and that you can say, maybe

1135
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 6: we can develop this kid, and who knows, maybe Kaden

1136
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 6: Wallace comes back. New coaching staff, new scheme, gets it.

1137
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Starts to defend the emailer a little bit. If they

1138
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: want to just go hot and heavy, you know, like

1139
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: that's all we're gonna worry about, is the offensive line.

1140
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: I would I would share your concern, and I would

1141
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: say that that's not the right move. You can't just

1142
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: decide I'm gonna put all my resources into getting three

1143
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: or four offensive lineman and think my team is fixed

1144
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: now they have a lot of holes.

1145
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go have one good offensive lineman. No, I

1146
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: agree that they have one star.

1147
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 6: Focus on that beat, but.

1148
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: You can't. These are all mystery boxes. Like we they

1149
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 4: have not proven to be starters at any capacity. So like,

1150
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: let's just pump the brakes on. They have all these options,

1151
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: like they have one starter on the offense.

1152
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to what we talked about earlier coaching.

1153
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: Do we have a good offensive line coach?

1154
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1155
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: Scott Peters first year doing it as the top guy,

1156
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: was he good, I don't know. I don't know, but

1157
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: he was given Hopefully somebody knows whether or not he's good.

1158
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: And whoever you bring in this year for offensive line,

1159
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: they need to be coached up. They need to be

1160
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: coached up.

1161
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 6: And that's where like my brain kind of goes back

1162
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 6: to unfortunately Dante, where you know, he was able to

1163
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 6: make chicken salad out of chicken ass, you know, like, and.

1164
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: There's always competent Yeah, it doesn't always. We didn't always

1165
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: have the Dallas Cowboys line of the nineties or whatever,

1166
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: but it was always a competent line. There were a

1167
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: couple of years where Brady got hit a little bit

1168
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: too much.

1169
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 6: And it always got better too.

1170
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1171
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: I think during the course of the session, I beat

1172
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 6: that out of my head, like that's just something, and

1173
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 6: then he'd fix them.

1174
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean fix Is that.

1175
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 6: Something that just existed kind of within the Patriots bubble.

1176
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't know enough about other teams offensive line coaches

1177
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 6: and their development, but does that happen elsewhere where you

1178
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 6: just have a good system and guys kind of coming like, hey,

1179
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 6: this undrafted hookies. Actually we've been working behind the scenes

1180
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 6: with him and now he's ready to start the next

1181
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 6: five years at right guard.

1182
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 4: You know two other places that I can think of

1183
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 4: off the top of my head. Philly with Statlin, who's

1184
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: like the other Scarnekia. You know, he's considered in high regard.

1185
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: And for years, you know, with Callahan and Cleveland, like

1186
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: those guys were able to just kind of plug and

1187
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: play and keep going. But a lot of those lines

1188
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: still have really high investment at a lot of these positions.

1189
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: I mean, don't think the secret is to a guy

1190
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 2: like Callahan, why is he such a good line coach?

1191
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 7: What?

1192
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: What what makes him?

1193
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: A simplicity? You know, like really narrowing it down to

1194
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: like the simplistic things. And I think sometimes as much

1195
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: as we made a big deal out of the strike

1196
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 4: system to try to get on board with Scott Peters,

1197
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: that was one thing I worried about, was like, is

1198
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: this putting a lot into people's heads, right, Like you

1199
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: got to think through all these different you know, if

1200
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 4: he does this, I do that he did learn under Callahan.

1201
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: But I think simplicity is a big one, just like

1202
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 4: saying this is what you have to do, and this

1203
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: is you know, the three things you have to worry about.

1204
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: And repetition, you know, Dante Scarnekia was all about reps.

1205
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 4: And they would just rep and rep and rep and rep,

1206
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: and then you'd get into the game and it would

1207
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: be just like practice.

1208
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: And they wanted to do well for him, like they

1209
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: respected him. They didn't want to let him down.

1210
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they and he he would turn it up,

1211
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: you know, they would. They would. He would practice at

1212
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 4: game speed. There was no there was no seventy five

1213
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: percent with him, right, Like they were practicing at game

1214
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: speed all the time. And noway there was almost easier

1215
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: at times in the games than it was in practice.

1216
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: Let's see this Rob in San Diego via Connecticut. I

1217
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: was initially a Ben Johnson supporter and wasn't thrilled with

1218
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: how predetermined the process seemed after the male hiring last year.

1219
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: At the time, I thought Rabel was a solid but

1220
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: no exceptional coach and was hoping for an offensive mind

1221
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: at higher However, after listening to the past few episodes,

1222
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: I've had a change of heart. Considering where the Patriots

1223
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: are now, I believe Rabel is the best fit for

1224
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: the job. On another note, I recently received a bogus

1225
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: ticket for not coming to a complete stop at a

1226
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: stop sign. Hearing Paul's story about his ticket and the

1227
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: advice about hiring a traffic lawyer inspired me to do

1228
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: the same. I've hired one and we'll update you on

1229
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: the outcome, something I wouldn't have thought to do without

1230
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: the show. Lastly, there's a regular caller named Boston Cream,

1231
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: my favorite kind of donut. My wife hates them, and

1232
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: we constantly debate whether they even qualify as donuts. Are

1233
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: pastries with filling really donuts as they are? Aren't donuts

1234
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: defined by having holes, making a Boston cream the complete

1235
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: opposite of a donut? Aren't there Boston Cream pies as well,

1236
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: team donut, but it's a precarious position. Definitely a jelly fill.

1237
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 2: Those types of do they are donuts. They are donuts.

1238
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Stamp Now, a cruller may not be a don't. I

1239
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: like a curler a donut past.

1240
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 6: I donut has to be round, just a different shape

1241
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 6: you mean, like I see round clers like a French craler,

1242
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: right French if yeah, those are a donut French.

1243
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about the stick like a yeah. I

1244
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: believe the doughnut needs to be wrong.

1245
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 6: I like the stick, you know, I don't know. There's

1246
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 6: a density to the glazed stick, especially the shoot, like

1247
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 6: the butter buttermilk. Is that what they do with the buttermilk?

1248
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, but they're good. I like the sticks.

1249
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Uh, Nolan had stop?

1250
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 10: I do.

1251
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Nolan in California. I gotta be honest. I had mixed emotions.

1252
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: Was hoping for Ben Johnson. However, listening to you guys

1253
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: and Mike talk about the culture has me really excited.

1254
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm the complete opposite of the previous emailer. I'm so

1255
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: excited hearing coach Mike talk about the trenches and building

1256
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: our team starts in the trenches. I can't wait to

1257
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: see what the moves are.

1258
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 6: What else I liked about Raybell I didn't realize both

1259
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: his parents were educators, and the way he talks, it's

1260
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of coaches, I feel like they're like,

1261
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 6: this is my system, we're gonna get on board. And

1262
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 6: you know, from Vrabel so far, we've heard of a

1263
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 6: lot of just teaching and empowering players to you know,

1264
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 6: to be able to play well. You know, so I

1265
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 6: think that is a little bit of that, you know,

1266
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 6: new age kind of approach to it. But I just

1267
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 6: think the same thing we were talking about the offensive

1268
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 6: line coach. It just it comes back to teaching, and

1269
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 6: there are certain people who are good teachers and are

1270
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 6: able to you know, not only get the point of

1271
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: cross in a succinct manner that's easily digestible, but you know,

1272
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 6: also inspire their players to play hard for them. And

1273
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 6: I think I've had coaches in my life that were

1274
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: some that were really tough and others that were more

1275
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 6: you know, you just didn't want to let them down.

1276
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 6: And it's like we talk about all the time, there's

1277
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 6: so many different ways to do it, but I think

1278
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: really it's about teaching and you know, That's that's the

1279
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 6: core of it.

1280
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Fred. Do you ever have a good coach?

1281
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: I ever? Oh yeah, well my wrestling coaches in the

1282
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: Wrestling Hall of Fam. Yeah, he was a real good guy.

1283
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: Why I just figured you had a problem.

1284
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: I had a lot of coaches I had a problem with.

1285
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wasn't wrong.

1286
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh, I had a lot of coaches I

1287
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: had a problem with.

1288
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why you're not doing it right?

1289
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: Different in different so Frank I sent to the locker

1290
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: room once liked.

1291
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 6: But you played a lot of individual sports, right, You.

1292
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: Played like I played basketball, football.

1293
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: That's what I was going to ask you.

1294
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: You had a good section of both, like transition to individual.

1295
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: I did transition to individual because I want to play

1296
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: all the time.

1297
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 11: Well, the difference for you between getting I don't want

1298
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 11: to watch anything about difference between an individual sport coach

1299
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 11: who was like a one on one that you know,

1300
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 11: versus a team coach that I mean, there's a difference.

1301
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: To worry about other people about me. Yeah, I get that.

1302
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: It's different.

1303
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's you know, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 6: different style of trying to get something out of one

1305
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Speaker 6: person rather.

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Speaker 2: Than remember the team freshman basketball takes me aside and

1307
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: he goes, you know, you'd be really good if you

1308
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: could develop a right hand. And I'm in my head,

1309
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about all the people that don't have

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00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: a left hand. You don't you don't take them aside.

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Speaker 3: That's the first thought. It's a freshman in high school,

1312
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: like not like I mean, that's the bugaboo of ninety

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: nine percent of us who tried to play sports and

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: weren't good enough. No, I wasn't as good with my

1315
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: right hand. But friend's like, what what about them?

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 12: What?

1317
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: What do you got prejudice against lefties? Like, screw it,

1318
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm quitting.

1319
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: The teaching.

1320
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Thing is cool that you're going to start any morning

1321
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: hand ahead of me because he's got the right hand.

1322
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: I can go run and and you know, and you.

1323
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: Know that's you know, that's the guy.

1324
00:58:59,200 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: Stars.

1325
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 3: They run deep.

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00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: They don't heal u Rick and Riverside, Rhode Island. After

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: reading Evan and Mike's recent articles, I think Graham or

1328
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: Schwartz would both be great additions to the DC.

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Speaker 6: Patrick Graham, Jim Schwartz a couple of Patrick.

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Speaker 4: He's a vrable guy's he was on Vrabel's staff as

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 4: a senior assistant for a couple of years and he's

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Speaker 4: currently the Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator. But we were talking

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: about this off the air that Cleveland staff is not

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 4: for long, you know, like if they don't have a

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: good year next year, then the fans he's gonna get canned.

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00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 4: If I'm vrable, I'm thinking, Okay, well you can come

1337
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: here and I'm probably gonna be here for a while

1338
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: and you're gonna have a job for a while, or

1339
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: you can be on the Titanic in Cleveland and and

1340
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: see that ship sink so shortly.

1341
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz has seen it all.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: Can I read a quick text for my dad? These

1344
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 6: are the kind of texts I get for my dad. Uh,

1345
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 6: here's a thought per coward b B was only successful

1346
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 6: because of Brady and Dante. Once he retired, BB's old

1347
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 6: line was week two years later. So that's Eddie d

1348
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Speaker 6: chiming in on it.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I throw we do all that. I think there

1350
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: were certain people that really helped Bill. Yeah, yeah, and

1351
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: it was a trust thing. On offense. I think a

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Speaker 2: VP should remain. Yes, last year was painful, but the

1353
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: Patriots franchise quarterback got better every week until the lack

1354
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: of talent wide receiver and O line became too much.

1355
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: He has the Cleveland ties y'all mentioned, Rabel likes, and

1356
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: Drake has comfort level with him. I'm concerned with Josh

1357
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: because of stories on how his system is tough to

1358
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: learn from wide receivers. Do you think our wide receivers

1359
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: can handle it? Lovepatriots dot com, thanks for the great content,

1360
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: and please consider adding blue Sky to your social media outreach.

1361
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: NFL content slash engagement is growing there with folks like

1362
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Mina Chimes leading the way. Well, right now, we're not

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: allowed to. We had a account briefly on blue Sky,

1364
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: but the league asked us to take it down because

1365
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: it's not an approved social media platform for the NFL yet.

1366
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so we're ready to go.

1367
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Speaker 3: Let me know what's going on going on over there.

1368
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Speaker 2: Whenever the league gives us the green light, we'll get

1369
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: back on blue Sky like a good app that posts

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Speaker 2: to both. Because I.

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Speaker 4: I'm just too lazy, I like manually.

1372
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Speaker 2: Exactly like I would just want one thing and whatever

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Speaker 2: I do goes everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just too like I try to keep up

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Speaker 4: with the Blue Sky when it first came out, because

1376
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Speaker 4: I was getting some traction on there with our articles

1377
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Speaker 4: and stuff. But I just it after a while, I

1378
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Speaker 4: let go the road.

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Speaker 6: It's so hard for a brand because it's like each

1380
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Speaker 6: time a new social media thing comes out, way now

1381
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 6: we got to do it there too, Like at what

1382
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 6: point do you start pulling back or just not think?

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: For a brand, though, it is a little bit more

1384
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: complicated because each platform does have a little bit of

1385
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: a different style and so you do need to tailor

1386
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: your content depending on the platform.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so that's it's hard. It's just it

1388
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: seems like and now we're doing threads, we gotta find

1389
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 6: a way to do thread you know, like there's no like,

1390
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 6: all right, let's just stop chasing it and we're gonna

1391
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 6: be here and you know, come to the Patriots dot

1392
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 6: com and that's where the content is.

1393
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: That used to be the way back thirty years ago.

1394
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Fred can't post with his right hand.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if demanding people come.

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Speaker 6: To you is the way to go and now I know,

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Speaker 6: I just it's it seems like that sometimes the what

1398
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 6: is it that the cart is leading the horse kind

1399
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Speaker 6: of thing where you're just you're always just chasing, you know,

1400
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: you're chasing engagement, You're chasing where fans are going to be,

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01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 6: and you want to give the fans that. But it's

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 6: it's just like we got a new social mediaut. Let

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 6: everyone come here now.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't know. Ellen Wisconsin says, I was previously

1405
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: against this, but I've turned it, uh the other way.

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Speaker 2: Bring back Josh. I need to hear my quarterback yelling

1407
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: Rita again. Really though, I think he's a good OC

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01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: and I like that he puts it all on the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think may can handle it.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be supposed to bring an AVP back. I

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01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 6: just don't know if there's a marriage there with him

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Speaker 6: and Josh. It just feels like they're two from from

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Speaker 6: two separate backgrounds, and it's hard. It's hard to see

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Speaker 6: the marriage. But you know, maybe if it was somebody

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Speaker 6: more West Coast base that has connections to Alex van Pelte,

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Speaker 6: I do think there's value in keeping around. I just

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Speaker 6: don't know if you take that step back and be like,

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Speaker 6: you know, like I think you said, Evan, like associate

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Speaker 6: coach or so you know, a senior offensive advisor or

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Speaker 6: something like that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would change. But you're one hundred percent

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01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: right with Josh and a VP. Like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna teach Spanish with a German teacher, you know,

1424
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Speaker 4: Like it just doesn't really make much sense in terms

1425
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Speaker 4: of that. But if they hired let's say Nick Kayley,

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Speaker 4: you know from the RAMS, and he comes back, Yeah,

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: and now we have a West Coast play caller offensive

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: coordinator running a West Coast system and a VP is

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Speaker 4: just here to continue to work with Drake on you know,

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Speaker 4: left foot forward and all that kind of stuff, then sure, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like I think that might be my my favorite pick

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Speaker 4: other than Josh, would be to do something like that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the TPX hutline eight five to five paths,

1434
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Speaker 2: five hundred Christians in LA. What's up Christian? Christian? Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess he's not there anymore? Is in New York?

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Speaker 2: K Pascal?

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Speaker 10: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 13: Guy?

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Speaker 2: Good?

1440
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 12: So?

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Speaker 10: First thing, first, about the donuts. Apparently, according to Wikipedia,

1442
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 10: a donut is just a past threemate from Levins fried dough,

1443
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 10: and so it can be a ring donut or a

1444
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 10: filled donut. So yeah, both, definitely a donut.

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Speaker 2: Okay, check all right.

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Speaker 10: But what I was calling about was I wanted to

1447
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 10: push back on something that you guys were talking about

1448
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 10: last episode about the Patriots being close to the Commanders,

1449
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 10: and to me, I don't think that the two teams

1450
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Speaker 10: actually were that close. I think that the fact that

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Speaker 10: the Pets had Bill Belichick and the Commanders had Ron

1452
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 10: Rivera had a pretty big thing to do with it.

1453
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 10: I think that once both coaches were gone, the Commander's

1454
01:04:53,400 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 10: roster was significantly better, and that Bill really really added

1455
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 10: a lot to what the Patriots were able to do

1456
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 10: last year, and that their roster was actually much worse.

1457
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Speaker 10: And then on top of that, the Commanders had I

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Speaker 10: think three second round picks and two third round picks.

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Speaker 10: So I just think that the Commander's roster was significantly better.

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01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 10: And if the Pats didn't have Bill, then they probably

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Speaker 10: would have been the first overall pick they might have.

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Speaker 10: Who knows how bad they could have been. So I

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Speaker 10: just think that there was a little more of a

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Speaker 10: gap between the two teams than they were kind of

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Speaker 10: giving credit for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ron Rivera's two time Coach of the Year, b

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Speaker 3: they were they were about as similar in terms of

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Speaker 3: talent as you can be for two teams. And I

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Speaker 3: just want to like, I don't think anybody said they're

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Speaker 3: close now, Like we were talking about, at the end

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Speaker 3: of the twenty three season, they tied with the second

1472
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Speaker 3: worst record in football. Washington got the second pick, the

1473
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 3: Patriots got the third based on the strength of schedule stuff.

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Speaker 3: They played a game right here in Foxborough that came

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Speaker 3: down to the last possession that there was a deflected

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Speaker 3: pass that got picked off that allowed Washington to win

1477
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Speaker 3: the game. Washington didn't have any stronger of her roster.

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Speaker 3: They added the last part that Pascal said that I

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Speaker 3: agree with. He had, you know, those second and third

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Speaker 3: round pick. They added like four starters in the draft,

1481
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Speaker 3: at least another couple, two, three, four in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Pages didn't do any of that. The Patriots opted to

1483
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 3: re sign all of the players off that team. Yeah,

1484
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: and this is like one of the things that I said, though,

1485
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Speaker 3: we're running it back, and we're changing the quarterback, but

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Speaker 3: we're running it back. That's why you stayed where you are.

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Speaker 3: And they made progress. Now, I did not envision the

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Speaker 3: progress that they made. I'm not going to be a

1489
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Speaker 3: fraud I didn't have any idea that they would win

1490
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: twelve games. The way they did that was a remarkable turn.

1491
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Speaker 4: So they have thirteen new starters. I discount thirteen on

1492
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 4: both from between the two sides of the ball. Some

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Speaker 4: of those are why you're not close now, Yeah, some

1494
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: of those are rookies. Some of those are, you know,

1495
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: just really good free agent signings. Bobby Wagner is like

1496
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 4: the one example I always come back to. But like

1497
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Speaker 4: Andrew Wiley, who was with the Chiefs the year before,

1498
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 4: started in the Super Bowl at tackle, Like, these guys

1499
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Speaker 4: aren't household names. Bobby Wagner is, but isn't that type

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Speaker 4: of player anymore? But they those guys are solid, capable,

1501
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 4: veteran NFL players that just came in.

1502
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 3: And Peters Peters, Adam Peters.

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Speaker 4: Those guys just came in and were serviceable, were functional starters.

1504
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 4: And then obviously Jayden Daniels is the one elevating them all.

1505
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: But like, that's that's it, that's it.

1506
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 6: Right on the draft picks, you hit on your free

1507
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 6: agency signings, and all of a sudden, you're I mean,

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Speaker 6: how many how many starters did the Patriots add?

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: Add good question? Trying trying to think, yeah.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: Drake Drake no, you know, beyond the quarterback.

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean not a starter, but he you know,

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: they kind of added him, ye, second Titans, I know.

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Speaker 6: But now it's I mean RB two, you know, I

1514
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 6: mean some depth guys, second level guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you did anybody start on defense that

1516
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: wasn't here last year, that wasn't here in twenty three?

1517
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm pounding well no, I mean counting

1518
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: twenty four is this year?

1519
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 6: Well some guys that were on the practice squad last year, you.

1520
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: Know, right, I mean, like the offensive line featured new guys,

1521
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't call them starters.

1522
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 6: So no, I mean you could maybe make a case.

1523
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: Of like Ben Brown is, Yeah he's a technically he's

1524
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,879
Speaker 3: a new starter, but yeah he's a practice squad refugee

1525
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: that he picked up in the middle of the season.

1526
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 6: Maybe white he'd played a little more this year, but

1527
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 6: I mean that he was here, Yeah, he wasn't an

1528
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 6: addition this year about the guy star that they brought

1529
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 6: in that.

1530
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 3: I think Evans counting thirteen guys weren't on the twenty

1531
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: three Washington Commanders that are starter now do it fourteen?

1532
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: Because I Forgot and Daniels because I was looking at

1533
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 4: everybody else.

1534
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: But you know, I think they could maybe make an

1535
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 3: argument that there were three guys that started for the

1536
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: twenty four Patriots that weren't on the twenty three team,

1537
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: and that includes Drake May.

1538
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean you have like I made, like

1539
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 4: Jeremy Chin, Frankie Luvu, Like those guys are not superstar players,

1540
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 4: but they came in and they play.

1541
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: If they ran it back with the same roster that

1542
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 3: they had in twenty three and it was just Jayden Daniels,

1543
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: they would not have won twelve games.

1544
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 6: I wonder how many they wanted to have, you know,

1545
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 6: like were they expecting Chuks of kora for to step

1546
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 6: in and be one of those starters, you know.

1547
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 3: But you're also expecting more than Drake May to come

1548
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: out of your draft class and start right like they had,

1549
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, my boy from Everett, Mikey Sandras Still you know,

1550
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 3: steps in as a second round pick and starts Brandon

1551
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 3: Coleman third round pick. And these aren't necessarily like great players,

1552
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: but they stepped into starting roles and they you know,

1553
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: they ablished a level that was better than what they had.

1554
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 6: And also established like they missed on Emmanuel Forbes, it

1555
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 6: didn't matter right, Like I mean, they missed on the

1556
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 6: top pick like that, and they drafted and signed well

1557
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 6: enough that they could overcome.

1558
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 3: That kind of went out and got Latimore too. Now

1559
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: he's been banged up for them, hasn't played a lot,

1560
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: but that's another guy they didn't have. And I bring

1561
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 3: up Washington as a source of hope, like it doesn't

1562
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: have to be five years, you can It can happen

1563
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: if you do well and you make some really good

1564
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: personnel moves, it can happen quickly.

1565
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 4: He gets ye like your your guard that you're talking

1566
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: about earlier, Nick Alighretti, it was the sign from the

1567
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 4: Chiefs this past season by Washington. He's there, starting left guard.

1568
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 4: He makes all their line calls and stuff like that,

1569
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 4: and he's again there's another one.

1570
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 6: Of those identified guy functional.

1571
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: Starting guards in the league that they're not paying a ton.

1572
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: But you got chookes of corps for who decided to

1573
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 3: walk away from your team, Which I think that sounds

1574
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: kind of like Paul what you've been pitching.

1575
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 6: Maybe Vabel does this year that he gets rid of

1576
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 6: some guys and then he makes some of these kind

1577
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 6: of signings where it's not overwhelming, but solid guys are.

1578
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: And actually I think they are going to be a

1579
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: handful of players, let's call it, maybe three that would

1580
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: surprise the four of us right now will not be

1581
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: here next year.

1582
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think any trade bait with any of these guys,

1583
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 6: Like when Evan was talking about Rabel and people going

1584
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 6: down to the Senior Bowl and starting to lay the

1585
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 6: foundation of.

1586
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: You know, I think you can get a second.

1587
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 3: Run, But some of some of those guys, well, yeah,

1588
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: like they might, Like Kyle Dugger to me, is trade bait,

1589
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: Like he just got a big contract, so maybe you

1590
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 3: don't want to just release him now. If Rabel says no, no, no,

1591
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: we'll get him back, Doug is going to be fine.

1592
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: He had a bat that ankle bothered him. Like then

1593
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm on board with that too, because I still think

1594
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 3: Kyle Doug is a good player. I'm not looking to

1595
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: run him out of town. But I can understand if

1596
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 3: they're looking to get rid of Tavia or Dugger or

1597
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 3: Pepper's you know, or Godschold, you know, like you got

1598
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: to replace some of these guys too, you know, Kendrick Bourne.

1599
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: I think there are people that are under contract that

1600
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: people would be surprised to find out. Oh wow, they

1601
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: let him go. Huh. I think that's going to happen.

1602
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: I just I can't tell you who they are.

1603
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: James and Brighton UK loved your chat with Rabel the

1604
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: other day and he's definitely grown on me with his

1605
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: banter and football intellect, and I do feel he's going

1606
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: to shake things up. But more importantly, as part of

1607
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: that shakeup, does Rabel have his sight set on Matt

1608
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: Smith's No Socks title? After his introduction and when he

1609
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: was sat with you guys, I couldn't help but notice

1610
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: the trouser to skin ratio was definitely more fleshy than

1611
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: I expected, and I think Matt should be concerned that

1612
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 2: Rabel is coming for his moniker. He did have socks, though,

1613
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: they were like little socklets or whatever they call.

1614
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: Those hanklets anklets, I don't know.

1615
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: But you couldn't see him. He was showing off a

1616
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: lot of leg I did notice that, but he had

1617
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 2: socks on.

1618
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 3: That's an ankle briestlet, it's called.

1619
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1620
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 6: I didn't have fleshy, he did have he did have

1621
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 6: some big Yeah, his foot was like right in my face.

1622
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 3: He sat the giants a lot of space and then

1623
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: he crossed his legs.

1624
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 4: Was like, somebody makes you guys look small. Yeah, dude,

1625
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 4: Well I.

1626
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: Heard somebody say, like, you know, he's listed at six four,

1627
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: but he does seem bigger than six four. He's just bigger.

1628
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1629
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 6: You know, it's like Drake doesn't seem as big as

1630
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 6: Rabel does. Right, probably in the same universe wise.

1631
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 3: But you know, probably a fifty pound difference.

1632
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that's a you know, I was

1633
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: interviewing some of our former players that overlapped with Rabel

1634
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: in Tennessee for a piece, and they a lot of

1635
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 4: those guys just called him really authentic. And then they're like,

1636
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 4: there's something about a guy that when he stands up

1637
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 4: at the front of the room and he's telling you

1638
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: that you have to, you know, go through hell to

1639
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 4: come out the other side of winter. And but he's

1640
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: clearly done it because he looks the part and he

1641
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 4: can put up his I guess he likes to put

1642
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 4: up the touchdowns, the catches. You know, he likes to

1643
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 4: brag about how he played both sides of the ball

1644
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 4: and ten for he played tight end was ten for

1645
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: ten and all that kind of stuff. So logan Ryan

1646
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: said that they used to find his low lights and

1647
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 4: put those up on the screen because he used to

1648
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 4: pick on them for their low lights. So they'd find

1649
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: his you know, mistackles and stuff like that and put

1650
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 4: those up. But you know that was you hear that

1651
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 4: a lot like authentic because you know, he played, he

1652
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 4: can walk the walk and he can talk to them.

1653
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 4: He was authentic with us.

1654
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 6: It felt you know, it just felt conversational.

1655
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: He's very approachable.

1656
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got no food today, Freddy, I did.

1657
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where it is. Matt's given me the

1658
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: palms up.

1659
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 6: It should be here any minute.

1660
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, that's fine. I know you're doing your best.

1661
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: Back there, he's making sandwiches. Joe writes in this may

1662
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: be one of Fred's it's not a Super Bowl rematch

1663
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 2: semantic arguments. But last year wasn't year one of a rebuild.

1664
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: This year isn't year one of a rebuild either. The rebuild? Shoot,

1665
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 2: what did I just do?

1666
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: I agree with this premise.

1667
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: The rebuild window closed with Bill. We need to stop

1668
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: the ra We're just a bad team trying to build something.

1669
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: Switching gears if you're continuing the newsletter throughout the off season,

1670
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: which we are. I have an off season suggestion, Fred's

1671
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: Rules for Life, a random show topic that Fred has

1672
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: a fred amount of rules for one. Example might be

1673
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: zip ups. You can quarter zip or full zip, but

1674
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: no three quarter or half zips. Stains are optional but

1675
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: encourage some Others might include how to order steak and

1676
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 2: which hats are allowed? We could do that. Rules for Living.

1677
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 6: Good topicfeeable, Fred's Rules for Living.

1678
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1679
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 6: Right after his Gambling Parlance Volume one, picking Winners.

1680
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: Let's see Andrew in La has one for Evan. He says,

1681
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,520
Speaker 2: there is an app that will simultaneously post on multiple applications.

1682
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: It's called call w p h F pronounced wolf w.

1683
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: I've heard of this.

1684
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: It's currently in the beta stages. It comes from a

1685
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: company in Pennsylvania. Looks like the next big thing.

1686
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: It's great. So it's great. You're trying to simplify your

1687
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: social media content? Should you need another one and need

1688
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: another app to do that?

1689
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 6: Opace is coming back.

1690
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: I've heard I've heard of this, though I've heard of

1691
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 4: not surprisingly, I have see what happened.

1692
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 6: I'm trying to pull back my social media presence.

1693
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm looking to cut it, cut it back,

1694
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 3: not expanded.

1695
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: Jacket and Abba Wrights best donut by far is the

1696
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: plane cake donut. Only the plane cake donut fresh from

1697
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: the oil, hot oil, that goes perfectly with freshly squeezed

1698
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: apple cider on a crisp October morning at the cider

1699
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 2: mill in Dexter, Michigan, near ann Arbor. Don't undervalue the basics.

1700
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 3: A plane donut.

1701
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: I have to.

1702
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 6: I have to agree with this because there's a play

1703
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 6: Country Kitchen and Walpole. You guys have probably been there.

1704
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 6: I'm guessing that, you know, like a small local donut shop,

1705
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 6: but they have excellent just made, you know, plane donut

1706
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 6: but kind of have a little crunch to it, like

1707
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 6: it's well cooked.

1708
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 4: You ever noticed, like people from sharing, they so overrate

1709
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 4: all the yeah, Sharon, because they live in a little

1710
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: bubbleberry farm. It's really you got to go to town spot.

1711
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 6: Don't loop me into that one.

1712
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 4: I got better pizza.

1713
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: The other one is, uh the creamery that they have

1714
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: over ray ice cream. I've ever had It's ice cream,

1715
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 2: put some sugar in it.

1716
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 6: Well, that's my fortunes are large.

1717
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: That's my thoughts on the plane don't glad you feel

1718
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 4: this way because.

1719
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: I plane donut, because you have your favorite.

1720
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 2: But if you want to have out, you have your

1721
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: cinnamon donut with the apple site.

1722
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 6: Yes, I like that too. I like that too. I

1723
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 6: I mean, I live about a half mile from Creston

1724
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 6: Ridge and so I'm not gonna knock it. But but

1725
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 6: still ice cream Smuggler's Dennis mask. That's my that's my boove.

1726
01:17:59,560 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 6: That's the one.

1727
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 4: He's not as bad. But you know when you got

1728
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 4: when I'm out at practice, we have Barth and Aaron.

1729
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 4: Who are you know to Sharon, you know to their

1730
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 4: core that towns by yesterday, Like I don't care, like,

1731
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 4: go eat some real pizza, like get out of your bubble.

1732
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 6: Pizza, just like Evan was meaning to me, stop watching Charlie,

1733
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 6: go find some pizza. I like ice cream in college football,

1734
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: and he just won't leave me alone.

1735
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: Mark writes in with the hiring of Mike Vrabel this

1736
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: week and with the way he has presented himself, described

1737
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: his vision for the future, explain requirements that will be

1738
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: non negotiable, and pointed out the things that will need

1739
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 2: to be eradicated from our once proud franchise. For it

1740
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: to be successful. It has all left me feeling genuinely

1741
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: optimistic about what comes next and that he has that

1742
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: unmeasurable talent that some people have to convince anyone that

1743
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: they are capable of great things. How do you view

1744
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: his opening gambit.

1745
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 6: I think it's like you're thing Fred where I think

1746
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 6: when we drafted Drake May, You're like, we have hope. Yeah,

1747
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 6: kind of feel like we have hope at the coaching position.

1748
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 6: Now I didn't. I didn't feel that.

1749
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's very accurate hope.

1750
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 4: I think you're going to go into games this year

1751
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 4: feeling like the team is prepared.

1752
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna get competent coaching, if not more, at least

1753
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna get competent coaching.

1754
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 6: We're not going to get the walk it back too,

1755
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 6: you know, you know, well the nerds are on him,

1756
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 6: so oh really a little bit.

1757
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 3: I'm interested in that. I want to hear more about that.

1758
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you that I don't. I think you're right.

1759
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: You're not going to get the walk it.

1760
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 6: Back, but you're gonna get criticism for what he said.

1761
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: And he's not afraid to say stuff. He'll just stand

1762
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: by it and be strong in his convictions. And he

1763
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 3: won't walk it back. Because do you ever hear you

1764
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 3: ever watch any of the clips of some of the

1765
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: stuff that he's done, there's some good stuff there. Losing

1766
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: sucks that one where we got but like taking rocket

1767
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: shots at the you know, which is great. Keep everybody

1768
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: on their toes. I have no problem with that, and

1769
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that I'll be in the crosshairs

1770
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 3: at least once. You know, that's part of the gig.

1771
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to you gotta learn to deal

1772
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 3: with that. But I could see him saying things on

1773
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: Sundays that should be walked back on Mondays.

1774
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: But he won't. He won't do it yet, Tony, Before

1775
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: everyone goes crazy about this woof app he says it's

1776
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: a fake. It's from the office.

1777
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 4: So you know when they said that, I was like,

1778
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,520
Speaker 4: it sounds familiar.

1779
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: And now, but please more. Deuce talking about how he

1780
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: likes glaze sticks. The best doughnut is a chocolate glaze

1781
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: dipped in your coffee dip? Fred, do you have any

1782
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: coffee tastes black? Is the only way to drink it? Correct? Well,

1783
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going to disappoint you. I'm not

1784
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: a I don't love coffee. I drink it every day,

1785
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 2: but I have coffee with my cream and sugar, if

1786
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I have the full

1787
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: cream and sugar, you know, because I don't necessarily love

1788
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: the taste of coffee. So I'm going to disappoint you

1789
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: coffee lovers out there.

1790
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 4: You're a Celsius guy.

1791
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: I like Celsius. Yea too much of it's not good

1792
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: for you. I mean physically, it's not good for you

1793
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: with the Kelvin what's that?

1794
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1795
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 10: Who?

1796
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 6: You need a little kick in the pants in the morning.

1797
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 6: Is that what the coffee is just for?

1798
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I have one coffee a day now,

1799
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: granted it's an extra large from Dunkin Donuts, but I

1800
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: have one a day.

1801
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's good.

1802
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, Paul, do you drink coffee?

1803
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 3: I don't do coffee.

1804
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: Don't drink cop dp you a coffee, You're a Starbars everybody.

1805
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 3: Everybody.

1806
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 6: Evan is like, I mean, Evan's been an example for

1807
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 6: me of like we're on the road and he's like,

1808
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 6: I need I need Starbucks because if I if I

1809
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 6: don't get that level of caffeine in me, I'm evan's gonna.

1810
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 3: Be When you first started, I immediately text my wife

1811
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: a God, the new guy's gonna be good with you

1812
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 3: looking for Starbucks all the time.

1813
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 4: And it's just, you know, it's bad because Starbucks, like,

1814
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 4: once you get hooked on a certain type of coffee,

1815
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 4: you can't break off. So like when we go on

1816
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 4: the road and I have to get like something else

1817
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 4: that's not Starbucks, it just doesn't hit.

1818
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll drink Starbucks, but it's strong.

1819
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 10: That's what is.

1820
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: I really need a lot of sugar.

1821
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 4: Well, that's what makes it hard is because it has

1822
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 4: such a high caffeine count that if you go to

1823
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 4: someplace else, you're not getting the same amount of caffeine.

1824
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: And it Now, I will say about coffee, decaffeinated coffee

1825
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: right out, it's not coffee. It doesn't taste like coffee.

1826
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: It's terrible. So I have no use for decaffeinated coffee.

1827
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: You thought you weren't going to have coffee takes?

1828
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: Did I had a coffee had a coffee take?

1829
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: Uh?

1830
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: Spiing Fresno. Don't get me wrong, I love the donut talk,

1831
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: but are there really any bad donuts? Are those of

1832
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: you named Fred really so grossed out by Boston cream.

1833
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't like Boston cream. I don't. I'm not a

1834
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: big jelly, but it always drips on me like everything else.

1835
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,879
Speaker 2: I think the land of Donuts is generally a delicious

1836
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: place to be. Perhaps planes can be dry, but that's

1837
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: what coffee is for.

1838
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I don't like the Plaine donut. I

1839
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 3: don't drink coffee.

1840
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 2: You got to have that hot liquid to stick.

1841
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm not a jelly guy.

1842
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 6: Jelly donuts. I'll any kind of don't like, why are.

1843
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,480
Speaker 4: You mixing that flavor with some with with sugar and sweet.

1844
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 6: Blob of jelly?

1845
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 4: Like people that put it like you're not my favorite

1846
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: if you're putting like jam like in between, like the

1847
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: layers of the cake or whatever they do when they

1848
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 4: do that.

1849
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,879
Speaker 2: Like no out, hard out, let's see.

1850
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 4: Sandwich, it'll peel behind the curtain board.

1851
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 2: Simon in New Hampshire, have we lost a soldier? Where

1852
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: is our resident New generation Vibe? No or Alex Weddingmala Yeah, yeah,

1853
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: he says we need an edge in my opinion, now

1854
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: that it could be possible that Carter has gone in

1855
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: the top three, is there any possible free agent edges

1856
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 2: or do you think we try to acquire that position

1857
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: later in the draft.

1858
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 6: Joshwat is the guy that Yeah, you know a lot

1859
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 6: of people on the top of the list.

1860
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 4: There are a couple out there. Josh Wat's probably the

1861
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 4: biggest name.

1862
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: Josh.

1863
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 6: So, would you guys be in favor of Baron Browning maybe.

1864
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 3: Sinking significant resources into a free agent at that spot, Yeah,

1865
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 3: I would.

1866
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 6: I'd be okay with it. But I just I don't

1867
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 6: really love anything, like none of the guys, and I'm like,

1868
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 6: oh boy, I gotta get him. It's a it's tough.

1869
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 6: I think it's a huge need for the team and

1870
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 6: not just you know, in the draft. I think the

1871
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 6: draft is pretty good with I mean, it seems like

1872
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 6: there's a lot of edges in the draft, so you know,

1873
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 6: maybe you get a developmental guy there, but I think

1874
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 6: they probably would need to get somebody in free agency.

1875
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 6: I just I mean, I mentioned Baron Browning just as

1876
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 6: a guy.

1877
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just feel like schematically comes like Judon is

1878
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: like one of the few guys that actually worked from

1879
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 4: that twenty one class, and like, if you can get

1880
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 4: somebody that can really make an impact like that right away,

1881
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Speaker 4: I think it would go along with Bring Back Jude

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Speaker 3: Mike, welcome back.

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Speaker 8: Hey, understanding there will probably a significant amount of overlap.

1913
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 8: How will your program here differ from the program you

1914
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 8: played in and then obviously coached against later when Bill

1915
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 8: was still here.

1916
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be all different players, new players,

1917
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 7: new coaches, some coaches that have remained, and people remember

1918
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 7: that there are gonna be some things like I'm not Bill,

1919
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 7: and I'm not Bill Cower. I'm I'm not anyone other

1920
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 7: than me, And I've taken those experiences and I've tried

1921
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 7: to form what I believe is critical to the success

1922
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 7: of a football team and an organization. But you know,

1923
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 7: to say what those are gonna look like, hopefully just

1924
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 7: as it's just as successful, you know, and our and

1925
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 7: our goals will be to win the AFC East, to

1926
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 7: host home playoff games, and to compete for championships like those.

1927
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 7: That's what it's gonna take and what the timeline is,

1928
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 7: just like we say with injuries, like we're not gonna

1929
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 7: put a timeline on an injury, and we're certainly not

1930
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 7: gonna put a timeline on what those will be, but

1931
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 7: that that's gonna be the expectations. And we're gonna work

1932
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 7: like crazy and we're gonna compete like crazy. We're gonna

1933
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 7: give the players a plan and and and they're going

1934
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 7: to form an identity on the field and the way

1935
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 7: that we're going to play uh and play for each

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 7: other that they're gonna be proud of. And we're not

1937
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 7: gonna you know, we just want to be good enough

1938
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 7: to take advantage of bad football. Like that's where we're

1939
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 7: gonna start. And that's what I've tried to tell all

1940
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 7: the players is right now, I don't know if we're

1941
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 7: good enough to take advantage of bad football. I'm not

1942
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 7: sure like we're undefeated right now, but if we can

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 7: just work towards taking advantage of bad football and being

1944
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 7: good enough to win, somebody makes a mistake capitalizing on

1945
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 7: it and not being the ones that make the mistakes

1946
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 7: and focusing on the little things and the details and

1947
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 7: helping them do their job better.

1948
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 3: That's a great place to start.

1949
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 9: Welcome back, Mike, Hi buddy, you don't look much different, Yes,

1950
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 9: I do. You mentioned you're not Bill. You had a

1951
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 9: special and unique relationship with him. What does it mean

1952
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 9: to you, if anything, to follow in his footsteps in

1953
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 9: this organization?

1954
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, I think it is unique obviously, Like

1955
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 7: let's let's just be real for a minute and just say,

1956
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 7: you know, having played for him and you know, having

1957
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 7: a competing against him, and then also having a friendship

1958
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 7: with Bill right along the way, you know, I think

1959
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 7: it's it's special. It's unique having played here knowing Bill.

1960
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 7: But again, we have to focus on things that are

1961
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 7: going to help us win now, help our players, and

1962
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 7: like I said, galvanized the building and the team and

1963
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 7: our fan base. So I think that there's also things

1964
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try to explain to the players that there's

1965
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 7: things that are interesting and there are things that are important.

1966
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 7: I think me having played for Bill is interesting. I

1967
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 7: just don't know if it's important to help in our players.

1968
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 7: Terrible Mike, welcome and congratulations. You were the hottest name

1969
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 7: on the coaching cycle this time around. Presumably you had

1970
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 7: your pick of jobs, so personally professionally, what really separated

1971
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 7: this choice among the others, Well, I think that the

1972
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 7: ability to have open dialogue with Robert and Jonathan with

1973
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 7: something that was critical Elliott and his staff. Obviously, what

1974
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 7: I believe and what everybody else believes is a as

1975
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 7: a young, dynamic quarterback. We have some youth on the roster,

1976
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 7: We have some veteran players that have kind of seen

1977
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 7: both sides of it and understand and that will help

1978
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 7: me and will help our players, you know, get back

1979
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 7: to that success and understand how hard it is. I

1980
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 7: do think that we're getting a different style of player,

1981
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 7: a different, you know, different player to the NFL, you know,

1982
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 7: one that you know, sometimes guys played four or five

1983
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 7: years in college in the same place under the same coach,

1984
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 7: and we don't have a whole lot of behavior to

1985
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 7: change when they when they got to our league. And

1986
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 7: I think now with the NIL system that everyone is

1987
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 7: embracing and I'm all in favor of, but sometimes those

1988
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 7: players are at a school for six months and they

1989
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 7: may go to another school and with another leadership style

1990
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 7: and another structure, and so when they get to our league,

1991
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 7: there's some behavior that may have to change and we

1992
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 7: have to be willing to help them change it. And

1993
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 7: that's okay. This is not an indictment on the college

1994
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 7: football system. This is just you know, you could go

1995
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 7: back and get a player from Alabama or Ohio State

1996
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 7: or notre date where they had been there for four

1997
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 7: or five years, maybe they red shirted and there was

1998
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 7: a consistent program and you felt comfortable adding that player. Now,

1999
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 7: you know, like I say, car to keep track of

2000
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 7: where they went to school, and so that's not easy.

2001
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 7: But what we're willing to do to help those players

2002
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 7: that need to have some of those things changed and

2003
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 7: the commitment to the team, Like, we're willing to do that.

2004
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 15: Hey, Mike back middle here, Hey, welcome back, Thank you.

2005
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 15: Looking forward to all our future news conferences together.

2006
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: There's going to be more, I think so. I think

2007
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: the league makes you do a few of them. I

2008
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 3: hear they're fun too.

2009
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

2010
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 15: One thing you've learned in your first experience from being

2011
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 15: a head coach that you want to make sure you

2012
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 15: apply to your second time around.

2013
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 7: Oh, I mean I think there's so much I think

2014
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 7: just this connection piece man getting to know these players,

2015
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 7: and we're gonna put so many points of contact around

2016
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 7: our players that I understand that I'm gonna have a

2017
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 7: different relationship with some players than I do others. Right,

2018
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna have a relationship with

2019
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 7: every single one of them. But then there's gonna be

2020
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 7: other ones that may may not be as strong, but

2021
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 7: they're gonna be with the position coach. And you know,

2022
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 7: we're not gonna have a whole lot of rules. We're

2023
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 7: gonna start with with being on time and being respectful

2024
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 7: and being able to communicate like anybody else without outside

2025
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 7: this building. If you were late for an appointment, uh,

2026
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 7: if you had something going on that We're gonna have

2027
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 7: people that are around the players for them to be

2028
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 7: able to trust and say, hey, I've got this going

2029
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 7: on and I've tried to do this in Tennessee that

2030
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 7: if somebody will walks in the door at seven forty

2031
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 7: five and they just you know, there's something on their

2032
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 7: face that they're wearing, something they're holding onto, something that

2033
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 7: something's not right. I would rather give that player thirty

2034
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 7: minutes or forty five minutes whatever, however much amount of

2035
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 7: time that he needs to take care of a situation,

2036
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 7: then the seven hours that he's going to waste wearing

2037
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 7: it through the day. And I want to provide as

2038
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 7: many points of contact with the players so that they

2039
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 7: feel comfortable. And if that's coming to me, great, If

2040
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 7: that's coming to Elliott, great, if that's coming to our

2041
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 7: strength coach, or that's coming to our position coach, whoever

2042
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 7: that may be. I want them to have as many

2043
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 7: relationships in the building that they feel comfortable saying that

2044
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 7: you know, something's not right, or I need to communicate,

2045
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 7: or I'm going to be fifteen minutes like whatever it is.

2046
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 7: So I think that that's critical that we teach them

2047
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 7: some of those things that you know, there's more people

2048
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 7: that they impact than just themselves.

2049
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 3: And now great moments in history.

2050
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 2: He's in Manchester, New Hampshire.

2051
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: What's up, Manny Manichester the podcast At.

2052
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 16: One point time Paul called Still a mediocre coach.

2053
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no no, I did not stop it.

2054
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 3: Stop it. You're embarrassing yourself. I just today, but anyway,

2055
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 3: I did not call it Bill a mediocre coach. I'm

2056
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 3: sorry that it was taken out of context. That's like

2057
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: Fred said that he doesn't think that mac Jones is

2058
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 3: very good. That's not what he meant.

2059
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 12: He was.

2060
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: It was something about something different. I've never thought of

2061
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: Bill as a mediocre coach, and I've never said that

2062
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 3: he's a mediocre coach. Sorry, I might have said. I

2063
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 3: might have said something like this, if you want to listen,

2064
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 3: He's had eight plus years without Tom Brady as his

2065
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: as his quarterback, and in those years he's been a

2066
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 3: mediocre coach. That's what you said. That's what I said.

2067
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 3: I remember that.

2068
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 16: Oh, that's what I was referring to call him a mediocre.

2069
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 6: Coach then without Tom Brady, very very important qualifier.

2070
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 16: There, Manny Wow, I think then everybody's a media co

2071
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 16: coach because Brady.

2072
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 3: Then anyway, and he reads and he reads. Not a

2073
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 3: mediocre coach, A good point caller. That's another great moment, all.

2074
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 2: Right back here and Patriots until off the top. I

2075
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: was just waiting to shine man at the end there.

2076
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 2: Eight five five Pass five hundred is a TPX hotline

2077
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email address. A

2078
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: lot of good talk today, little of it about football,

2079
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: not only kidding. We're doing everything today. It's an off

2080
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: season Moen Vermont and New York says, tell Fred to

2081
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 2: quit the Celsius. Read the nutritional facts on the side.

2082
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 2: It has arsenic in it, so yeah, too much makes

2083
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 2: it feel sick, no joke. But it also has good.

2084
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: Stuff in it, right, just let in the paint?

2085
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 2: Is that bad? Yeah? Doesn't it always also have like

2086
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 2: all these good vitamins in it and everything like that.

2087
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 3: If you like it, Fred, don't let them, don't don't

2088
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 3: let them stop you from drinking.

2089
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Matthew said, is alpha comes before beta testing? Evan shaking

2090
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: my head. I thank you, thank you, Paul and Illinois says,

2091
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: it took you two weeks, but we're finally into some

2092
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 2: real offseason talking shows. Enough of these serious, practical discussions

2093
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 2: of why Mayo was fired or who will be the

2094
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: new coach, or who will Rabel's corodners be. We're onto

2095
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 2: donuts and coffee, Jaws, Star Wars and the like. When

2096
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: is the next we'll take Josh talking? We might we

2097
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 2: might do a karaoke contest here the warming up. Yeah,

2098
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: you're you're involved.

2099
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 3: I can't sing.

2100
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: You have a song that you could sing, you know,

2101
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, an Earth Wind and Fire song or

2102
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, I can't do it.

2103
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 3: You do not want to hear me sing?

2104
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: No, that's why we want to hear you sing. You know.

2105
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 3: Tonight?

2106
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: There you go.

2107
01:36:59,160 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 3: Spice of.

2108
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: Marco from Mexico writes in something that's been intriguing me

2109
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: lately since I heard that McDaniels is being mentioned as

2110
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 2: candidate for OC in terms of reputation, do you think

2111
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: that the fact McDaniels currently has a bad reputation among

2112
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 2: players due to what happened during his tenure in Oakland

2113
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: could have an impact when it comes to signing free agents.

2114
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 2: Could it affect prospects not wanting to join New England

2115
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: because just because Josh is the OC. I think that

2116
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: could be an issue. But I would like to know

2117
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: what you guys think.

2118
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe, but I would say any of those

2119
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 6: players that would be like that, you probably don't want anyway.

2120
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I wouldn't say that, But I don't necessarily think

2121
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 3: that's the deciding factor over money. I think if you

2122
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: want to give guys money, they're gonna come.

2123
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 4: I also think that people can separate that he's not

2124
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 4: a head coach here, right, he's going to be the

2125
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. And as an offensive coordinator, his resume speaks

2126
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 4: for itself of how he's you know, been able to

2127
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 4: use guys and adapt and morph into different offenses based

2128
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 4: off his personnel. So if you're an offensive player, I

2129
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 4: would say that, Okay, this guy is going to know

2130
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 4: how to use me. He's going to you know, figure

2131
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 4: out ways to get me the ball if you're a receiver,

2132
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 4: and Rabel will take care of the culture.

2133
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 2: You know.

2134
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: I mean, like, just as an example, Mike, just to

2135
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 3: come back at you because I don't I don't argue

2136
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: with you nearly enough.

2137
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: No, you don't. We need to stop.

2138
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 6: That's going, right, What.

2139
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 3: I would just say for an argument take And I

2140
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 3: have no idea how this individual feels about Josh McDaniels.

2141
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 3: But like if Jacoby Myers were a free agent and

2142
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 3: he said, well, I'm not going to New England because

2143
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels is there. I played for him in Vegas

2144
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 3: and it was terrible, you know, like that's not like

2145
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 3: the wrong guy.

2146
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 6: No, only played play with him here too.

2147
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 3: Right, No, I'm just just brought him up as an

2148
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: example of a guy in the Raiders.

2149
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 6: Right, Well, I think that's ridiculous.

2150
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 3: It's a hypothetical.

2151
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm trying to argue with you. No, I I

2152
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 6: get it, but I think, you know, some of the

2153
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 6: reasons that guys weren't happy with Josh McDaniels and in

2154
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 6: Vegas might have been stupid, and the.

2155
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 3: Fact that they're not going to might have been on

2156
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 3: the players. They're not gonna cut.

2157
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 6: It here, even under a Mike Vrabel regime, much less

2158
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 6: you know, Josh is running it all.

2159
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 3: So I just wouldn't shut myself off to all players

2160
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 3: who think that Josh mcgingals didn't do well, Yeah, that's

2161
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 3: not all the player's fault, that's all.

2162
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 6: No, that's that's fair. I but still I don't. I

2163
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 6: think ultimately it's Mike Vrabel's team and Josh's resume speaks

2164
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 6: for itself. And you know, if guys were like, well,

2165
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 6: I mean it was great after we left. We were

2166
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 6: smoking cigars and stuff, and I like that.

2167
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: Better, you know, like whatever, but how that work out?

2168
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 3: He's still he still has that that old Patriots fan.

2169
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 3: Well that's what they're interested in.

2170
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, how that work out? Ye get them. You know,

2171
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: we like lots of guys, we like smoking cigars after

2172
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 2: Champion with.

2173
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 3: The last three years. But you know, we love to

2174
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 3: smoke a cigar at some point, but we don't get

2175
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 3: to do that anymore now.

2176
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 6: I thought Michael Lombardy made a great point about that

2177
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 6: as well. So I'll stick on.

2178
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: Smoking street, say no, somebody the guy.

2179
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 6: Somebody brought it up and he was like, I mean

2180
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 6: they were smoking the guards and there we got a

2181
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 6: culture that they have that's not the Patriot where he

2182
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 6: did a whole thing. So that's why I brought it

2183
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 6: up for Paul's benefit.

2184
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: I knew he was.

2185
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 3: My larger point would just be don't close yourself off

2186
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 3: to people, you know, for those kinds of reasons. Superficial

2187
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 3: It's fine.

2188
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 6: I mean, then how many guys in Vegas do you

2189
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,879
Speaker 6: really want anyway? Like, I mean, is it which guys.

2190
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: Like I don't think this is a big deal because

2191
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: I think in free agency it comes down to money.

2192
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 3: This isn't about Raiders. It's not about X Raiders. It's

2193
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 3: about people around the league that talk and they're like,

2194
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 3: this guy is a colossal a hole. Now you don't

2195
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 3: want to play for him, Like it doesn't have to

2196
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 3: be a raider.

2197
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 6: Did it hurt him after Denver, Like that's a question.

2198
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying I say yes

2199
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 6: or no. I just because you already kind of had

2200
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 6: that experience where he came in and had, you know,

2201
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 6: when people were.

2202
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Coming back in the midst of a dynasty. You don't

2203
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: have that anymore. Now I have my choice. If I

2204
01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 3: want to win games, I don't have to go there

2205
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 3: if I want to win games, right.

2206
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I've always ask you a question.

2207
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 3: And again, I don't know. I think the emailer is

2208
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 3: probably worried about something that's maybe a little far fetched

2209
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 3: because I think if T Higgins wants to sign with

2210
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: New England, it's gonna cost you a lot of money.

2211
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 3: It's not gonna cost you any more money. I don't

2212
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 3: think because Josh McDaniels is here, it's gonna call. You're

2213
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 3: gonna have to obid other teams because people are gonna

2214
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 3: be interested in T. Higgins. For the Chargers, by the way,

2215
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 3: is one of those teams. Now, you're gonna be hard

2216
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 3: for us to outbid the Chargers because that's a better

2217
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 3: team right now, with a coach that is already established

2218
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 3: a playoff level roster. That's that's gonna be hard.

2219
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think those players. I mean it's money at

2220
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 6: the top. Then it's a little vable, it's a little drake.

2221
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 6: May you know Josh is part of this too. Maybe

2222
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 6: if you didn't have the greatest impression of Josh, or

2223
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 6: you've heard things that you're necessarily maybe worried about, you

2224
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 6: got to take take all.

2225
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 12: Of it in.

2226
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 2: All right, A couple more emails before we get the picks.

2227
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 2: Ell says, I'm a pretty big fan of Evan's ball knowing,

2228
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 2: but wow, each food take is somehow worse than the last.

2229
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 3: What you have a bad food take today?

2230
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 2: And then Dan and Virginia Michigan. Probably once again the

2231
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 2: boss Man has it right with his opinion about decaffeinated coffee.

2232
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 2: It's like non alcoholic beer. What's the point?

2233
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 3: I totally agree with the non alcoholic.

2234
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: Be No, that's probably what is the point.

2235
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 3: I just don't find I have.

2236
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: Some apple juice or something.

2237
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, have some water. It's not tasty enough.

2238
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 6: Some people, really, have you ever tasted I've never even tasted.

2239
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 3: It tastes the same kind of tastes the same.

2240
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,839
Speaker 2: I'm not sure some of the good ones are oduls

2241
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 2: is old duels.

2242
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 3: To me, taste just like you know regular, I just

2243
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge beer if you want to drink it.

2244
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 3: You know, I play a role in the show. I'm

2245
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: not really a huge beer drinker. But what like the taste? Like,

2246
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 3: do you love the taste of beer?

2247
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: Some beer?

2248
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 3: A lot of people do. I'm not telling you that

2249
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 3: you're not out there.

2250
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: I p as another take out out. It's not I

2251
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: PA is for people who don't like beer.

2252
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 4: I actually don't. I really love the taste of beer.

2253
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 3: I don't either.

2254
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I drink it like I like Sam Adams,

2255
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 4: like if I had to pick a beer. But I'm

2256
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 4: not like a big beer guy.

2257
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: But some people, like I have friends that literally drink beer,

2258
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 3: like like you can't. They can't get them enough, Like

2259
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 3: they just love beer, And I'm just like, it doesn't

2260
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: really taste that good to me. I drink it because

2261
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 3: it's fun.

2262
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 2: You get if you ever had mead mead No, No.

2263
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 6: This is the sixteen hundred.

2264
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 4: Type of people annoy me beer. People that love beer

2265
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 4: like they like I like, Okay, I love you, don't

2266
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 4: you love the idea?

2267
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 12: Lately?

2268
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: Drunk kind of off beer lately because it's so filling

2269
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 2: now for.

2270
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 6: Me, especially the I pas that's saying those things are

2271
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 6: like eating a loaf of bread.

2272
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 4: That's why like hens and all the selters.

2273
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 2: Is the first thing I learned from a very competent waiter.

2274
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: You know, people tend to think, oh, you pour beer

2275
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 2: down the side so that it doesn't get a lot

2276
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: of head. That's the wrong way to pour beer, because

2277
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 2: it's keeping in all the whatever they call it, and

2278
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 2: it makes you more. You know, filter port right down

2279
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: the middle so it releases all the nitrogen or whatever

2280
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 2: it is, and then you know it's better for you

2281
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 2: don't get filled a quickly.

2282
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 6: I feel like Paul does, Like there are certain people

2283
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,919
Speaker 6: are typing a beer just is perfect.

2284
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: You know.

2285
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 6: I would say, like one PM game here we do

2286
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 6: our thing, watch the game, I get home, you know

2287
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 6: whatever it is watching the night game, and like some

2288
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 6: days there's like, man, there's nothing better than just the

2289
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 6: nice beer. Worked hard today watching the games. Same with

2290
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 6: SODA's like sometimes I just gotta have a soda.

2291
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 2: Like down it's a su it harbor, go down to

2292
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: the clamshat, nice warm sunny day. Steamers. Oh there's nothing better.

2293
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 2: I told beer and steamers is.

2294
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:49,839
Speaker 6: The best looking out at the ocean with your soulmate.

2295
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,839
Speaker 2: But whether or not I have my soulmate?

2296
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Did you?

2297
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Did you?

2298
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 3: You didn't read this stuff yet?

2299
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Did you?

2300
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 3: What on the newsletter? No?

2301
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 2: Oh I, it's a good one for you. All right,

2302
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:07,560
Speaker 2: all right, it's that time. I'll get to the callers.

2303
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 3: After hang on.

2304
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 2: We'll hang on, all right. We have four games and

2305
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 2: a college game to talk about.

2306
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 3: So last week, uh, three way tie Mike, Alex, Paul

2307
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 3: five and one, Evan four and two, and Fred three

2308
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 3: and three. You know Fred's he likes to push the

2309
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 3: envelope and taking some swings, take some swings. None of

2310
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 3: them hit with the spread. Same three Mike, Alex, Paul

2311
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 3: four and two, Fred and Evan two and four.

2312
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 2: That's just poor to me.

2313
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 6: Evan retired after you.

2314
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 3: We could pick the four games and then we'll do

2315
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 3: the call.

2316
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Did I have a lock last week?

2317
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 3: You did? But it was college you won your lock?

2318
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I won Ohio State.

2319
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 3: Lock was Ohio State and that they were minus six

2320
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 3: they won by fourteen.

2321
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, So you know, I have to be

2322
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: very diligent with my locks because a lot of people depend.

2323
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 3: On So yeah, just to let everybody know, Mike and

2324
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Alex went to and zher and the rest of us

2325
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 3: went one and one, and that was the same with

2326
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 3: the spread in overall.

2327
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 4: That's because I keep picking against Notre Dame, all right,

2328
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 4: I always pick up for the postseason.

2329
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 6: That's one of my best.

2330
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, So we'll do the NFL games first, and

2331
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 2: then the bonus pick will be Monday nights National Championship.

2332
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 2: We'll start with Saturday four thirty ESPN, ABC, ESPN Plus,

2333
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: ESPN Deportes the ten and seven Texans against the fifteen

2334
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 2: and two Chiefs.

2335
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 3: So do you think there's a reason why they continue

2336
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: to put Houston in the four thirty Saturdays.

2337
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: Right in every game?

2338
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 3: All the market like why all their players?

2339
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 6: They want to watch them?

2340
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 3: So Kansas City by eight and a half. Wow, that's

2341
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 3: a big number, a big number. Mike.

2342
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna take Kansas City. And I know they

2343
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 6: haven't really done a great job covering this year, but

2344
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna have them cover this one.

2345
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 2: I think.

2346
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,919
Speaker 6: Uh, I just have a hard time believing that Houston's

2347
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 6: gonna mount much. Although I was really surprised with how

2348
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 6: they played last week. That was the one game I

2349
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 6: think I lost was was this one, So I think

2350
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 6: we all all been on the Chargers, but I don't

2351
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 6: think they got it two weeks in a row on

2352
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 6: the road in Kansas City. I'm gonna take the Chiefs

2353
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 6: a light of points.

2354
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have Alex's pick, so we'll have to

2355
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 3: get those at another time.

2356
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 4: Evan, I'm gonna go with the Chiefs, but I'm going

2357
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 4: to take the Texans to cover this spread because I

2358
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:41,560
Speaker 4: think that Texans pass rush last week was just unstoppable,

2359
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs offensive line, especially their tackle plays, has

2360
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 4: been an issue for them all season long. And I

2361
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 4: do think that the Chiefs have to pull this one

2362
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 4: out late like they have all its season.

2363
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 6: But I would love this. I hope it's hope this.

2364
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 4: I think there is a chance though that a lot

2365
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 4: of these games, like the nice wild card weekend teams

2366
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: that won last week, they go up against the big

2367
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 4: boys this week and get smoked could happen.

2368
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Evan. I think Kansas City wins the game,

2369
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 3: and I don't think it will necessarily be in doubt

2370
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, but I'll take the point.

2371
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: Do we have a health report, like any team missing

2372
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 2: any notable people in the city.

2373
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 3: Seems like they're as healthy as they've been.

2374
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: All well, I'm going to go with the Chiefs both ways.

2375
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 2: You can talk about the Texans defense all you want,

2376
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 2: but the Chiefs defense is why they're fifteen to two.

2377
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 2: Stri It's del Rio not anymore. But but I am

2378
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 2: going to take the Chiefs to cover and get one

2379
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 2: step closer to that three peat which cannot happen. Cannot happen?

2380
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 3: Is that the thing that you least want to happen,

2381
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 3: Like Buffalo winning would kill you. I would say, yes,

2382
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, yes, Kansas City.

2383
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 2: So the question is I'd rather have Buffalo win a

2384
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or the Chiefs three peat Baltimore. Like you

2385
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 2: hate a lot of Baltimore, I could be all right

2386
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 2: with them. So the thing that you'd least like to

2387
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: happen would be Buffalo winning.

2388
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:04,839
Speaker 3: Buffalo winning, Oh really.

2389
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 2: Again, against the laws of nature.

2390
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 4: I think it's the mafia right, Like the mafia.

2391
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Is, then they would have something to say, only what Yeah,

2392
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: I can't get to be.

2393
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 3: Alright with any of these eight teams. I probably would

2394
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 3: least like to see Philadelphia win because you don't care

2395
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 3: as much as I.

2396
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm pulling for Baltimore. I want them. I want Lamar

2397
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: to get his It's super.

2398
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 3: Cool if like Detroit wanted, but I never could. I

2399
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 3: think I don't have the hatred in my heart that

2400
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 3: you guys do.

2401
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 4: Would be Detroit.

2402
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: I love to hate one.

2403
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 4: Detroit Baltimore in the Super Bowl would.

2404
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Be all right. Saturday, nine, eight o'clock Fox, Fox deportes

2405
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 2: the twelve and five Commanders at the fifteen and two Lions.

2406
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 3: Detroit by nine and a half.

2407
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 2: Big spreads, big.

2408
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 6: That is a big one, big spread.

2409
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 2: I gotta go to the Sharps.

2410
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 6: I gotta go with Detroit at home. But you know,

2411
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 6: I just I think there's something special in Washington. I

2412
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 6: think they'll go in, they'll play loose, and uh, you

2413
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 6: don't think Detroit's defense has had some So I'll pick

2414
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 6: Washington to cover that one. I think they kind of

2415
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 6: hang with him and put up some points. But I

2416
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 6: think Detroit will win the game. I don't like either

2417
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 6: of these first two games. Like Sunday's the games Sundays

2418
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 6: of the games to watch like these two games, I

2419
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 6: don't know. I hope they're competitive and watchable.

2420
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 4: But are gonna go Detroit? Detroit? I think this is

2421
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 4: one of those games where nice little win for the

2422
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 4: Commanders on wild Card weekend, but then you go up

2423
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 4: against a big boy like the Lions and get smoked

2424
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 4: in the divisional round.

2425
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm with Evan again. I think the same way. I

2426
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 3: feel Washington's defense will not be able to really hold

2427
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 3: up against the Lions attack.

2428
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine and a half, they're trying to bring in

2429
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 2: the Washington money. It's not coming. Lions both ways playoff points.

2430
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 2: So now we move to Sunday to.

2431
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 3: Look back at my glossary with playoff points.

2432
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: Man Sunday at three pm Eastern Time on NBC, Peacock, Telemundo,

2433
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: and Universo, the ten and seven Rams are at the

2434
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 2: fourteen to three Eagles Philly by six man playoff points.

2435
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 6: I think I'm trying to pick this one with my

2436
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 6: head because my heart loves what the Rams have done

2437
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 6: on defense, and I just like watching them. I think

2438
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 6: they're just aggressive and it's but you could say the

2439
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 6: same thing about the Eagles defense. Too aggressive and fun

2440
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 6: to watch, but you know, big injury with the Kobe Dean.

2441
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 6: I'll take Philly to win, but I'll take the Rams

2442
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 6: to keep it close and cover.

2443
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 4: I'm taking the upset. I'm taking the Rams in this game.

2444
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 4: The Eagles offense just still doesn't seem right outside of

2445
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley to me, and I think they're gonna have

2446
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 4: to score some points in this game to win, and

2447
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm just not very confident in their ability to do that.

2448
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 4: And I also think that as great as Fan Gio

2449
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 4: is for the Eagles, going up against the coordinator that

2450
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 4: kind of does what he does and has a system

2451
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff, that spells to me

2452
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 4: that Sean McVay is going to have some things cooked

2453
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 4: up for the Fangio scheme. So I'm taking the Rams.

2454
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 3: I like the way he says, fine from the stand of.

2455
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 6: You see what you did, I do impressions of what

2456
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 6: Fred does. I don't know who that's supposed to be.

2457
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 3: I think we all know I am. I am with

2458
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 3: Mike on this one. I will take the Eagles to win.

2459
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 3: I was very impressed with their defense last week, but

2460
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 3: I'll take the Rams to cover. And I definitely give

2461
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 3: the Rams a legitimate chance to pull off the road

2462
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 3: just a little too much.

2463
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: I think I haven't I haven't trusted the Eagles all year.

2464
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 2: They keep winning but I haven't trusted them. I'm going

2465
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: to say the Rams win this game, out right, I think,

2466
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: and I'm going to make the covering of it the

2467
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 2: lock of the week, not the win, not the outright win.

2468
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 4: What I'm saying I put the.

2469
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 3: Was getting six Rams plus six is.

2470
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: The lock of the week here, folks.

2471
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 6: So you know what I want to make money.

2472
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 2: If you want to make money, that mortgage is college

2473
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: fun whatever you got six thirty on Sunday evening on

2474
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 2: CBS in paramount plus the twelve and five Ravens are

2475
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,759
Speaker 2: at the thirteen and four bills.

2476
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 3: What a game.

2477
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 6: That's a good one. I'm gonna settle in.

2478
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, but Baltimore by one and a half.

2479
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 6: This will be a beer game for me. I think

2480
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 6: you know, I have a sit down the beer. Did

2481
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 6: you say Baltimore by one?

2482
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 3: An Baltimore?

2483
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 2: You heard him right, and you should take a double take.

2484
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

2485
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 3: So I thought it was funny that, you know, like

2486
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 3: the whole like the FPI index that I always make

2487
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: fun of. So Baltimore is favored by one, and it

2488
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 3: says Buffalo fifty percent chance to win. That's what it

2489
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 3: keeps putting.

2490
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 6: On the score on he says close as close can be,

2491
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 6: even for the Sharps. Sharps don't know what to do, man,

2492
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 6: I don't really know what to do. I feel like

2493
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 6: it's a coin flip kind of game. I know a

2494
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 6: lot of like Evan said, a lot of people want

2495
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 6: to see Lamar get it this year. If not this year,

2496
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 6: when when will Lamar get it? I just I can't

2497
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 6: pat against Buffalo at home. I really can't do it.

2498
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Buffalo in the

2499
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 6: home as the home dog. I think that place is

2500
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 6: gonna be rocking. And I think this would be a

2501
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 6: great game back and forth. And I like Josh Allen

2502
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 6: to make a little bit of a statement and you know,

2503
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 6: show he has the edge as the MVP this year.

2504
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 4: I can't pick this game. It's like picking between It's

2505
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 4: a great game. It's like picking I just hope it.

2506
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 3: Zero.

2507
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just love both these quarterbacks a lot.

2508
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 4: I think these are the two best quarterbacks in the

2509
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 4: league outside of my homes. Ah, man, I'm gonna I'm

2510
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 4: gonna lean towards Baltimore. I am just a little bit

2511
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 4: more uh confident, and both sides of the ball for them.

2512
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 4: I just feel like they're a little bit more of

2513
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 4: a buttoned up team right now. But I could see

2514
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 4: this going either way, but I'll take the Ravens.

2515
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with both of your assessments. I could

2516
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 3: see a great argument to be made both sides. I'm

2517
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 3: gonna go with Buffalo A little bit of a hard pick.

2518
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 3: I just I'm kind of rooting for Josh Allen. I

2519
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 3: know Lamar hasn't won either, and I wouldn't be upset

2520
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 3: if he won because that I think greatness sometimes should

2521
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 3: be recognized for being great, and I think too often,

2522
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 3: you know, if you don't win it all, you're not

2523
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 3: that right, you know, like Dan Marino is not as

2524
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 3: good as Plus.

2525
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 2: You want to block Patriots fans.

2526
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 3: Well, there's not really, there's nothing really to block.

2527
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: It's like if I wanted to block.

2528
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 3: Patriots fans would be all Kansas City all the time.

2529
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 3: I'd be rooting for the three P right, That's right.

2530
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 3: Isn't that the biggest block?

2531
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 6: I think?

2532
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe, like it's not.

2533
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 3: I I like Josh Allen and I like Lamar Jackson.

2534
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 3: I think that they should be able to win a title.

2535
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 3: So I'm rooting for those guys to win. I'll probably

2536
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 3: be rooting for the winner of this game next week

2537
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 3: no matter what.

2538
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Bills to lose. Uh. And I'm

2539
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 2: gonna take the Ravens to win this game. The window

2540
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 2: is closed. There's gonna be a lot of this guy.

2541
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how I didn't see that coming. I'm

2542
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 3: ashamed of myself.

2543
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of red ass in Buffalo,

2544
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 2: a lot of red ass Niagara if they lose.

2545
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be in the crosshairs because

2546
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 3: they will not be able to stop the run.

2547
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 2: And that's going to be So I'm going to fade

2548
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 2: the Bills. I got you so right, Yeah, I'm going

2549
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: to fade the Bills. I'm going to go with the

2550
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 2: Ravens to win this acceptable and they cover, by the way, Yes,

2551
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 2: and they cover, they will not win by one? Yeah,

2552
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 2: all right? So now the National Championship game, Notre Dame

2553
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 2: in Ohio State.

2554
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: Ohio State by eight and a half.

2555
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: Are they playing this game? I do not know.

2556
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good question.

2557
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 4: You're playing.

2558
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 2: Why don't we know that?

2559
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 3: That's weird?

2560
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 2: The Dallas.

2561
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 3: I think it's Dallas, not on Universal at eighteen.

2562
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 4: T is Dallas, Dallas Stadium. No it's not. It's not

2563
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 4: Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia.

2564
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, as you guys might have heard, I

2565
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 6: actually watched all the state game last week.

2566
01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 4: He's really had himself about that.

2567
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 6: It's amazing you watch the football, like every minute of it.

2568
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 6: I didn't even go to that well once you know

2569
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 6: he took the fumble back.

2570
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: That's how it was that one.

2571
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: By the way, we'll go to the three calls. We'll

2572
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 2: go a little or longer today and we'll get bonus

2573
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 2: callers because it's off season.

2574
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 6: I don't want you to bonus time. I think Notre Dame,

2575
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 6: nice story, nice wins for them here getting to this

2576
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 6: to this point. But I just think Ohio State looks

2577
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 6: like a wagon right now, and they got the pieces.

2578
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take Ohio State and I'm gonna lay

2579
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 6: the points.

2580
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

2581
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 6: I think it's probably gonna make one of these college

2582
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 6: football games where it's a couple of score games.

2583
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 2: What do we say the margin was eight and a half?

2584
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like them by like ten.

2585
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 4: I've been picking against Notre Dame the entire state because

2586
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 4: I've been waiting for the Notre Dame that I grew

2587
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 4: up with to show up in a big football game.

2588
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 4: I'm sticking with it. I'm going down with this ship.

2589
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 4: I think Marcus Freeman has done a great job with

2590
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. I think he's really rallied that team. If

2591
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 4: you want a Rah Rah culture type of coach, he's

2592
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 4: your guy. But talent is talent, and I just don't

2593
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 4: think when you line these two teams up that Notre

2594
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 4: Dame's talent matches Ohio State's talent. Who have Ohio State

2595
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 4: has really been the best team in college football talent

2596
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 4: wise all year long.

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 2: When they play Michigan, they.

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01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 4: Just have had some slip ups along the way. So

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01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the Buckeyes. I'll take I'll take them

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01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 4: both ways. I think there's just a too big of

2601
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 4: a talent discrepancy here.

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01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that in watching all these playoff games,

2603
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 3: by far, I think Ohio State has played the best

2604
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 3: in all these games. I'll ride them, even though I

2605
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 3: hate them. I will continue to take Ohio State. I

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01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 3: think I think Ohio State is just been markedly better

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01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 3: than the opposition.

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01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to take Notre Dame to win out right,

2609
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 2: I'll settle on them covering. But I think there's something

2610
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 2: special going on with Notre Dame. Something going on here.

2611
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people. I can't go all the

2612
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 2: way and say that they're going to win this game

2613
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 2: out right, but they will cover. They will cover, So

2614
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make it a lock. I've already

2615
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 2: made my lock.

2616
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 3: So Ohio states to win him the cover is that.

2617
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 2: That's right. Okay, that's right, You got that right, Paul.

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01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Kramer.

2619
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 2: So those are our picks. But I did say, well,

2620
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 2: we'll hang on. It's we're up against the hour. But

2621
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 2: we have a few callers that have called. I want

2622
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 2: to reward their patients and their off season interest. Uh,

2623
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 2: so let's go to Christian in LA. What's up Christian.

2624
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 16: You guys today?

2625
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Good?

2626
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 16: It dropped out? Yes they have a call, but must

2627
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 16: have been where I haven't here in La? And how

2628
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 16: bad the signal is? So two questions for you guys. One,

2629
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 16: ten lasted a bad draft and a mediocre uh free

2630
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 16: agent fighting? Does that get rable out at one and done?

2631
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 16: That's that's one question.

2632
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Say that again. Say that again.

2633
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 3: Ten losses are bad? Draft. Yeah, we'll say in.

2634
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 16: A mediocre like free agent free agent class.

2635
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2636
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 3: So in other words, they win three more games than

2637
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 3: they did this year, No, one and done. It doesn

2638
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 3: no by by improving by three games.

2639
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't get canned after one year.

2640
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 4: That's a that's an okay, improvement.

2641
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 2: There have there I actually need to see how Yeah,

2642
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 2: there has to be fist fights and all kinds of folks.

2643
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 3: You've got the situation that happened you laugh.

2644
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 2: I really mean there has to be There has to

2645
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: be locker room, complete locker room, you know, pandemonium. Yeah right, okay.

2646
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 16: Second second question is you have two questions. If we

2647
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 16: get Higgins, Chris Godwin first round defensive.

2648
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 2: Tackle, Micah Parsons.

2649
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 16: Offensive tackle, third round of wide receiver, is that put

2650
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 16: a possibly the playoffs?

2651
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 3: Playoffs? We just go to the playoffs where we're good.

2652
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 3: Godwin Godwin the season, who is he good? I mean,

2653
02:00:59,520 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 3: they an't do.

2654
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 7: Well.

2655
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 3: If they hit on all the draft picks, then it

2656
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 3: can be. Yes, they could be a playoff team if

2657
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 3: you Yeah, and I think it requires six players that

2658
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 3: immediately help you immensely.

2659
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 2: You could be good and bringing in those middle class

2660
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 2: guys that are solid players, Like we talked earlier about

2661
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:21,240
Speaker 2: the Red the Commanders. So I think there's a path. Yeah,

2662
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 2: there's a path.

2663
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 3: And I think in the NFL there's a path every

2664
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 3: year for somebody.

2665
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 4: Why not you, especially in the schedule Andrews and Boston,

2666
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 4: Like there's a.

2667
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 3: Team that goes from really bad to really good in

2668
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 3: one year every year in the NFL.

2669
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 2: What's up, Andrew, Hey.

2670
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 13: What's going on? I'm kind of interested today in uh,

2671
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 13: just like a slight debrief of last year's wide receiver draft.

2672
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 13: So I'm wondering, who are you most surprised by or

2673
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:55,600
Speaker 13: or how do things go versus expectations, and then maybe

2674
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 13: focus on how we're going to apply that lesson learned

2675
02:01:58,480 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 13: to this year's draft.

2676
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 2: I think my biggest surprise is Pope, just complete lack

2677
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 2: of anything from him. I really thought he'd be you know,

2678
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 2: he'd be okay.

2679
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 3: So he's talking about the draft class at large overall. Yeah,

2680
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 3: So you know, Savy, you're worthy, Ladd mcconkiea like that, Coleman, Sure, yeah,

2681
02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 3: you know most of those guys contributed.

2682
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think Coleman I've seen probably the

2683
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 6: most of him, but i've you know, I mean it's

2684
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:29,520
Speaker 6: been a little sporadic and you missed some times.

2685
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 3: Obviously McConkie had a huge conky at brought Bowers tight end.

2686
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 6: But still, yeah, had a huge year. I think I

2687
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 6: again was kind of up and down, and he was hurt.

2688
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think he was very good man.

2689
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a world the five fifty club, right, Like,

2690
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 4: if you're above five fifty as a rookie, that means you, guys,

2691
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 4: you're onto something. So uh, Kean Coleman had just over

2692
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 4: five fifty six, So him in Ladd McConkie or the

2693
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 4: other than like neighbors and and Brian Thomas Junior and

2694
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 4: the guy's the top top right, But talking about we

2695
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 4: left out, Yeah, and all four of those guys hit

2696
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 4: over Xavier Worthy hit over to uh. So you know,

2697
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 4: the a couple of these guys seemed like a pretty

2698
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 4: good class. Oh, I mean the top of the class

2699
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 4: is one of the best way we've seen in a while.

2700
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 6: That's what's so frustrating. It's like, why can't they hit

2701
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 6: on one, Like you mean, one of the six guys

2702
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 6: that had successful rookie years by that standard.

2703
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 4: And I know, I think the biggest question that I

2704
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 4: would have is just just to take the Washington receivers

2705
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 4: and the Dune Day was obviously in his own category

2706
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 4: a little bit, but like him and McMillan both had

2707
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 4: decent rookie seasons. McMillan was decent in Tampa Bay and

2708
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 4: you got the one that didn't do anything. So like

2709
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 4: even just evaluating that program in it took the vacuum.

2710
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 8: Yea.

2711
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it only played a more prominent role because McMillan

2712
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 3: got hurt.

2713
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like what were you looking at that? Said

2714
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 4: Polk over mc millin. Obviously a duneesay is its own thing,

2715
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 4: but that in itself, I think can get you a

2716
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 4: long way in terms of fixing it.

2717
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 2: We took his name in vain a lot. Today, Boston

2718
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 2: Cream's on the line. What's up Boston Cream?

2719
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 17: First off, spread, I find it kind of comical that

2720
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 17: you like jelly donuts over cream donuts. I do, and

2721
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 17: the fact that you're basically made of jelly. Boston Cream

2722
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 17: are the second highest selling in the world, So put

2723
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 17: some respect on my name.

2724
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

2725
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 6: What's the biggest glazed sludge? It's the glazed yeah.

2726
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 17: Behind simple glaze for simple folk.

2727
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 10: One last donut thing.

2728
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 17: There's one thing that connects the human to the Boston

2729
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 17: Cream donuts, and that's we're both made when cream goes

2730
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:47,640
Speaker 17: inside of a hole.

2731
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 2: Ah. Now that's just wet. Now I got to extend

2732
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 2: the show for that.

2733
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 3: Now I gotta turn my back on you. He's a

2734
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 3: couple of thousand dollars. Now, I gotta turn my back.

2735
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Boston Cream. Yeah, that's gonna do it

2736
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 2: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I hope everyone enjoys

2737
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 2: watching the football games this weekend and National Championship Monday night.

2738
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:11,960
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02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,040
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